Another River to Cross - The Alabama Indian
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- This film explores the fascinating archival evidence of indigenous peoples, the pivotal Creek War of the early 1800s with its controversial leaders; and the Indian culture & traditions that connect to all Alabamians.
I’m lower Alabama creek Native American and my grandpa didn’t know how to read or write as his mother was on the run her whole life. They ended up traveling to florida and that’s where my family grew. Insane and sad the life they must’ve lived.
At Atmore, Alabama is the Lower Alabama Creek Nation reservation and now Casino. If they knew about the community back then they may of lived there. Creek descendants who's grandparents were full Creek may receive payments from the Creek Nation.
ma-chis lower creek?
Boo hoo
My people been in Alabama for as far as I can trace and they lived in a place called choctaw corner and we still till this day own over 200 acres in the same place
@@jasonsurrette76 laugh until it’s your turn 🤡
It is so interesting that all the so called national parks are all sacred NATIVE AMERICAN PRECIOUS LAND.
My grandparents were born in the late 1800s. My Grandmother was half Cherokee and half Choctaw… so full blooded First Nations! I had ancestors walk the Trail of Tears. My Great grandmother was full blooded Cherokee and died the year I was born. My great Grandfather was an Choctaw Elder Chief. So… I am at least a quarter First Nations. Not sure how much might come from my Dad’s side. I physically look like the First Nations side.
My origins have been verified by DNA testing … most of my DNA was identified as American First Nations. I KNOW who I am.
Good stuff.
💯🎯 Alabama born indigenous
Lies
I am who I am the real authentic CREEK INDIAN...foreign people have no rights to tell a his-story about a culture of people they have no clue of....NOW THIS IS A FACT..
Thanks for the excellent filmmaker!
Little does the speaker suspect that in September they will discover 18K year old footprints in New Mexico, making it absolutely necessary to address the topic of whether people were in Alabama at that time [of course they were].
I'm muscogee creek and it's not crazy to hold menawa dear to ur heart
Lies 😂
I miss America unearthed... I'm sad my home state didn't get an episode... my heritage is Choctaw and cherokee.. my family is from Washington county and I'm a direct decendant of the founder of st. Stephen's alabama the original capital of alabama.
There was a bounty on Indians in Ga and Al until 1924.
For scalps?
The Ga legislature defined an Indian as having 1/8th or more Indian ancestry. I don’t know the mechanics of collecting the bounty or whether a genealogy was necessary. Even the Nazis didn’t take it that far.
The Power Mind fear based prejudices have continued and reemerged as Media Fosters that level 9f thinking. It requires time patience and Information/Educating people to understand what can improve their experiences = Higher Mind aka Mature Mind Thought.
Mr. Hendrix was on his book tour when I attended his lecture. He is a dedicated and interesting person.
I’m a Hendrix too
They’re taking out an Indian mound in Graham North Carolina. We’re trying to raise awareness for it. Need some people who can help. Send Help!
I hope you were able to bring attention to this and SAVE the History!
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I lived in Graham until 2 years ago when we moved to Greensboro. Where are the grounds? My husband is Cherokee and Choctaw
@@mvimi2 It's Graham, NC from what I understand. The latest is NC is now claiming there were no mounds there so that developers can pave over mounds and known sacred sites. He's on site right now doing videos. Check out their recent videos on their channel and leave a comment. They will get back to you asap. My aunt is up that way. I'm trying to get her onboard to help also
I find it curious that these Academics/Archaeologists are far more Authentic, meaning, applying the "Standards of Science and Research", allowing the Mind to be open, and allowing the Archaeology to unfold, the greater facts, rather than attempting to force the finds unto the )aradign and Linear Timeline.
They are addressing the landscape, where as Georgia is denying and ignoring theirs.
DNA/Genetics is not revealing that many of these tribes were Mayans whom immiggrated North to escape the Spanish and other warring tribes. The same in the Southwest, the Anastazi.
The Chickasaw were to have inhabitated the Bluffs of the Mississippi in West Tennessee.
I'm Red Stick People and Cherokee my Great Great Great Grandmother was born and raised in the devil's backbone and escaped the removal at Waterloo at 12 yrs old she never saw her family again went towards Chattanooga TN and lived in a cave for 4 or 5 yrs before my GGG Grandfather found her on his way to Henderson to start a horse farm racing was a big thing at that time thought he could make big bucks lol
I’m half Cherokee and Choctaw. My baby, she’s a Chippewa. She’s one of a kind.
Well done!
I’m ggggreat grandson of Title
Yoholo-Micco who was an upper town cheif of okfuskee and we fought with against red sticks… but one thing that’s crazy my great grandmother didn’t speak English just Muskogee language. I think we weren’t assimilated due to fighting with American government preferences.
These can also be found on oak and double oak mountain in Shelby county Alabama
Great history
My grandmother and granddad on my mom's side are both full Choctaw Indian and grew up in mobile they ended up leaving too atlanta too provide a better life for my mom and her siblings
Hey I grew being told my 7-8th great grandfather was Minowa, my paw paw kept up with things like that, heritage, things that actually matter, strong man, good man. Please help me get in touch with the first woman in the video! Message to poster!
29:43
Though not too many ,there were and still are those who have remained in their sacred homeland
How does one come to the conclusion that most of their food came from plants, when fruits, nuts and berries are only available a couple months of the year?
When I was very young; my Grandmother raised in Iowa said that her family traced back from her Mother's side to Scotch/Irish/Cherokee.
No you’re not
I'm muscogee creek
hello,
Gaylesville, Cherokee co., AL, is my home, which is located in the foothills of the Appalachian mtn. chain, in lower NE AL. we also have what I’ve always thought were Creek names for rivers and places, such as the Chattooga river, and Chattoogaville, as well as others. I’m not certain abt. the origin of the names. Could someone who is knowledgeable tell us from where the Chattooga river derived its name?
was it from the Muskogean Creek, or the Cherokee language? it’s only abt. 75 to 80 mi’s. from here to Chattanooga. it’s only 10 mi’s. from here to Sequoia’s caverns, abt. 70 to Russell cave, and abt. 7 - 10 mi’s. to Barry Springs, (an indian holding pen, as headed to the “Long March,” or “Trail of Tears.”
also, there are mounds here, one very large, that used to have buckets full of pottery shards on top of it. not sure if it’s ever been i.d.’d, but I’m certain it’s never been dug. there is also a ditch along the Eastern face of the mound, between it and the Chattooga river. an acquaintance found a “pitch black stone ‘quail or Bob White’ effigy pipe bowl, (in a most excellent, perfect condition),” not far away from the largest mound, and we’ve found many stone axes and points around the mound area.
I am aware that where I live is like a border area for both the Creek and Cherokee; I believe both tribes have claimed it during different periods of time or possibly even the same time. it would be so helpful to know for sure.
I can trace lineage from both tribes; and I can trace both Irish and Scot ancestry as well, as many ppl in this area are able to do. I’m wondering if maybe the ‘Great Town,’ of ‘New Echota,’ which some older maps place in the area between what is now LaFayette, and Roseville, GA, is a possible reason for such significant and constant Indian activity occurs at almost every strata of earth, in this area? anyway, if someone knowledgeable abt. the place names could write a response, I’d greatly appreciate it!
Was it Cretes or Creeks? or neither?
☀️ @ 43:14 (His father was most handsome, his parents made a most attractive couple! She is such a beautiful woman!) ☀️
So these are holy grounds...
Nice video information but the images 🤔 of the descendents Wow
Mostly she is saying if you listen closely---we really don't know shit
Idk who that woman is but I really dislike the way she speaks of our past governments within tribes and nations. Loose??? Maybe they didn’t believe in completely ruining someone bc of some infraction. They worked together as a tribe to HELP their people. They didn’t just lock them up and forget about them the way the US government did and still does. This is part of the problem in our US Government, and why our system fails over and over again. What was it that Einstein said?? The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different result??? I think that qualifies the US government as being insane. Nuff said…I‘ll shut up. Being Choctaw, Monacan, Cherokee, Scottish and German…maybe some Irish as well, I think I have more than a right to speak on this. Ty for your time if you read this. I wish there was more I could do instead of running my mouth on YT. Her comment really got under my skin. Apologies…
Peace up small things to a giant, Town down walk around
The pale faces you speak of! Are the off spring . They continued to practice there heritage. AKA the Confederates! Not many Indigenous People will claim such! Turkey’s Town Alabama Indigenous Creek/Chickasaw/Choctaw/Irish/Muscogee/Mulungeon! All lived and reside in the Appalachian Dragon back! We are still Here!
Indyens amerikan lakota siyu👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Chinease, Japanese, Filipino
I’ll be at chocalicka
Looking for information. Grandfather’s Mother born in MS but not sure. Identifies herself as Alabama Willie never a slave. She was called Blackfoot/Creek looking for information about Alabama Tribe (The People). May Spirit guide you or block you based on true intention.
I've lived in Alabama for 55 years. I've only seen a few native Americans.
It's the blood not the man-made fabric
My g g g g grandpa bought the saloon and coach in Elgin Alabama one of the first white settlers on blue water creek a tributary to the Tennessee river in lauderdale county name was Daniel White.
From Chief DoubleHead
Why is it that White People seem to be more interested in the Indian and Black African American History than our very own people, and why do White People in telling the story of the American Indians as portraied like pale-faced White Natives when some Native American Indians were Black, Brown, and Red in color, yet this is not noted depending on who is telling the Indian stories of American history? If someone has answer please respond
So that they can recreate our history and we won't know who we are
Because whites really don't have any history....only His-story. Anything they didn't destroy has been whitewashed to create a different narrative and hide the truth. That truth is that the Americas was originally owned by so called "Blacks" (or that weirdo term "African American")We were replaced by the pale Mongoloid Eurasian and 5 dollar indians as the face of Indigenous Americans, we were given a false history of coming of slave ships which sounds ridiculous when looked at with critical thinking, even Africans will tell you that story is bs and they don't hear about it until they come to America or watch "Programming" from American tv.
We r BROWN, And nothing else! Anything else was FORCED on us, including Afro! The "real" history, is much more sad, the Afros were as mean to the Natives as the European! There is a lot of interest in the story of the white and black man in the Americas, In fact, USA has very little history of BROWN Native ppl, seems like they think that the history of the Americas began when the ships came with the white and black man, very little mention of how advanced we really were as the Natives of the Americas! I appreciate the interest and support from the white community, at least they are not trying to erase us like the Afros!
I respect the Native Americans and the history. This is where I live now, but I am drawn to the past of the land and people that inhabited it before me.
Whites tend to talk about their ow race the most. I am White and compared the number of studies about Whites compared to these other groups. Quit thinking about race!
Decent of Maya people Viva Mexico 😊.
No… they are not descendent hahaha. They were an influence on ideas and goods through tribes but completely different lineages from a way before Mayans. They are from Mississippian paleo indigenous peoples. We had didn’t even get there domesticated crops until later in history after the Olmec so we were her long before Mayan peoples who were after Olmec. But we traded with their sophisticated civilization and then we started a large city but that diet ended up being the downfall of that city in modern St. Louis
Rock walls
You are not showing the real Indigenous peoples! These are Mongoloid/European mixed people aka "Hollywood Indians" who blended in with the original Ancient Americans and took it over.
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Yes baby they are NOT INDIGENOUS they could have ask me to send in some pictures mine are INDIGENOUS so mf fake
Facts
more black envy. y’all are tired af with that same fantastic fiction.
@@borninvincible Go back to playing video games dude 😂
45:02 for mom
The rock piles look myan
Early early 1800s.
Viva Mexico 😊.
They looking for John Smith aka chief white wolf 🐺. 🤦
Sir ur ancestors are British not the aboriginals of the americas.
I wish that some bright male would find that picture of Osceola and copy the way he was dressed. Osceola was Creek, born at Tallassee, before he became Seminole. Don't you want the public to know how you really dressed? You are
impersonating the Plains Indians when you have a history of your own! Don't you think its funny that us white people all wish we had some Indian blood? Here in North Georgia everybody claims that Grandma or Great Grandma was full blooded Cherokee of Creek. And since I'm a Tate, I certainly claim the heritage of being half brother to William Weatherford. I do wish it were so!
You need to check out the late Jay McGirt. He brought back traditional mvskoke and Seminole clothing.
Well my great grandfather was a full blooded Indian and he wore head dress and had the skin of a thousand year old leather bag. I’m from Alabama. I’m sorry you can’t connect yourself to history. Your life must be miserable.
I agree. I've always been aggravated when I see a so called native American documentary and the natives are all dressed in the plains Indian style regardless of the tribe or area they are speaking of. It is laziness on the researchers part and frankly insulting to th viewers.
way whites telling this stroy
I'm not sure if modern Alabamaians are trying to say they have archaic relations to ancient native Americans , but certainly not !
Sorry Dolores and I hope your life gets better and you shake the misery. My great granddaddy was a full blooded Cherokee.
You’re quite ignorant
Hay how are you'll
Onel0Ve Forward
Stretch your back A
Still calling them by the term Indian seems disrespectful at this point...native...indegineous...all better terms
Honestly, the only people that seem to have a problem with the term are not native , my entire family uses the term and we always have.
@@siksika4603 maybe so for your family, but I've met plenty of others who are bothered by it, also assuming I'm not of native heritage without knowing me is foolish.
@@yungMFodin Never said you weren't native man. The only native Americans I've ever heard of being offended by the term Indian are under 25 and call themselves woke.
@@yungMFodin Up here we use the term 1st nation. Or Indian.
@@siksika4603 I've heard 1st nation before, and I'm not necessarily offended by it myself I just know some native folks that dislike the term for whatever reason they have. Most of them I know are over 35, I'm from texas, so most folks here use the term Indian, but they also use other outdated words to address other ethnicities as well that I do not agree with. this was just a thought, seeing as how this video was posted by what seems to be a government entity of sorts, I just figured that term would be replaced with something else. Sorry for the foolish remark I misconstrued your initial comment
So sad… not one indigenous person in sight!!! So sad that it’s comical.
Agreed!
Righhhhhtttt there are freaking liars
Knee-grow, please! 😂
@@timwarcloud I’m indeed that like the original people. Bless your ignorant heart.
@trefoxx1 it's always you Non-Native Knee-grows who just can't fathom that Natives and Whites have intermarried for a few hundred years. But by all means, keep sucking on fake Calloway 's pipe 🤣
The earth is only 6000 years old not millions ,billions or even trillions !
Uh. no, sir. Its billions of years. That's how certain rocks and geology is made. No matter how you pray-wish it away.. the Earth is 4.543 billion years. That can be proven. Those are the facts. A bible book saying God said so, is NOT the facts. And the facts.. don't care bout your feelings.
If the earth is only 6,000 years old.. why were indigious cultures during the ice age making art on cave walls 26,000 years ago?
@@discojelly How is it determined if those so called cave arts are 26000 years old? Is it because some government scientific priest says so? Is there a date on the cave painting? 😂 Do you believe in dinosaurs too?? 😂😂😂
Amen,thank you.
Most of our contradictions arise from that not being known
Amen,thank you.
Most of our contradictions arise from that not being known
34:35 Without a doubt, for some weird reason they (Native Americans) sometimes loved the Irish 🇮🇪, the Scottish 🏴, sometimes the French 🇫🇷 and the Spanish 🇪🇸 especially the first two European groups
The French were kinder to the Native Americans than the others. The Spanish were the most unkind, forcing them to convert to the Vatican religion..
The Spanish were infamously cruel to the Native Americans in North, Central, and South America.
Where did you make up that lie?
The lie just keep go with these people
Get off my land
“Archaic” people?! How about indigenous peoples! Insensitive language wounds, unless you use “archaic” as characterizing a specific archeological epic or eon - which is doubtful. Words have power for better or worse. Otherwise, a very captivating narrative about a part of the US not often or widely featured in popular culture - merci beaucoup.
AH ! WHITE WOMAN
Why is it that all the native people decents are pale faces🤔🤔?
@Brandon Letzco I thought they were separated 🤔 lol the so called black people have also been mixing🤣🤣 allegedly
@Brandon Letzco all I'm saying is all the native people I know look like they been replaced with whoever these new people are every other ethnic group is still the same as a whole but the natives and Mexicans seems to be losing pigmentation 🤣🤣 that's all I'm saying
@Brandon Letzco 🤷🏽♂️ I guess
@@phresh1tv534 what are you even talking about ? Mexicans losing pigmentation ? Please explain because I live in Texas surrounded by Mexicans.
@@donaldcooper3156 this video about mexicans?
You Coughasians are IGNORANT 😂😂 WE LITERALLY NAMED IT “BLACK WARRIOR TOWN” and you’re still trying to “COLONIZE”