The Forgotten Creeks

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  • Опубліковано 3 гру 2024
  • The Forgotten Creeks
    Executive Producer Seth Johnson for Long Leaf Studios
    Produced by Rebekah Hall Evans for Illuminate FIlms
    Edited by Joel Evans
    Music By Mike Brassell
    First aired on Alabama Public Television
    "The Forgotten Creeks" recalls the history of Alabama’s Creek Indians from Spanish contact in the 1500s to the Indian Removal Act of 1830 to the Poarch Creek Band's modern-day success story.
    See our documentary on Arthur Shores, one of Alabama's very first African-American attorneys who spent his lifetime fighting in a segregated court system.
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  • @actionjax8830
    @actionjax8830 8 місяців тому +9

    My family! My great grandfather x6 was Chief Mad Dog aka Chief Efau Haujo! He was a speaker of tribal nations and warrior! I have only recently learned about him and learning more about my ancestors! Fascinating stuff!

  • @Timebend2025
    @Timebend2025 10 місяців тому +27

    This is my Mothers family's story. Sharecropping until they couldn't and then moved down to Pahokee Florida. My mother took her own life in 1980, at just 30. If she could have gone to College, learned about hor culture and not had to hide it, She may very well have been helping make the way for others. I only found out this past year, and I hope to make connections. I always felt a way that I didn't even feel allowed to feel. I am so thankful to know thete was a reason, The sadness in my Grandmother and Mother are with me, but I hope to get it together and tell thier stories and mine. The younger generation need to hear the stories and keep them alive. To understand why generational trauma must be addressed, is one of the best lessons. Native Americans have been gaslit after every other atrocity ......we can heal and this is duch a step in the right direction.

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  10 місяців тому +4

      We are very sorry what happened to your mother. Thank you for sharing this part of your story with us.

  • @Vne_este_mvskoke0tter89
    @Vne_este_mvskoke0tter89 Рік тому +28

    I am so proud to be muscogee creek

    • @T1up4me12385
      @T1up4me12385 8 місяців тому +2

      ❤me too

    • @mikeandrews1899
      @mikeandrews1899 7 місяців тому +2

      Im Scots Irish , I am proud and respect your heritage. Even though our ancestors had a great and disturbing conflict

    • @BamaFanUSMC
      @BamaFanUSMC 2 місяці тому +1

      You should be !! Very proud people, with a rich culture and beautiful way of life. I wish people these days would be more like Native American people when it comes to respect for mother nature as well as Honor.... I loved learning about Alabama Tribes and their history while growing up in Alabama.

    • @ML-np5ml
      @ML-np5ml 13 днів тому

      This video is not about creeks its about a fake tribe that built a casino on top of a ceremony ground and dug up at least 57 remains

  • @John-M.
    @John-M. Рік тому +9

    Amazing video. Shame it has so little views. People need to open their eyes and ears. We all bleed red. Calvin Mcgee was a legend.

  • @shelbyramirez867
    @shelbyramirez867 9 місяців тому +8

    Thank you for this wonderful, moving film! I had my daughters watch it for school as we are learning about the Indian Removal Act and studying the five "civilized" tribes. This was a perfect way to make the Creek history come alive for them. I was so inspired by Chief McGee and his leadership. What an impact someone can make in history! He sacrificed so much for his community and his name deserves to be known. Another take-away was how the Episcopal church was willing to volunteer a space for the kids to have school. I reminded my kids how we can make a difference by doing the right thing and serving those in need.

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  9 місяців тому +3

      Thank you so much for sharing this with us. This was an exciting film to produce and we were honored that the tribe welcomed us in the tell their story.

  • @raythomas9176
    @raythomas9176 9 місяців тому +6

    There are many valuable lessons to be learned from these people who have sacrificed their lives to help others! Bless you.

  • @rooteddwellings
    @rooteddwellings 8 місяців тому +3

    I’m muscogee and a descendent of Itshaus Micco, subchief of Okfuskee town in Alabama, who moved his people to present day Eufaula. Where my great grandmother grew up and didn't speak English. Love my tribes of the Creek’s

    • @rooteddwellings
      @rooteddwellings 8 місяців тому

      Sucks how successful they were at breaking our culture… sure we have some culture but not to long ago it was distasteful to be Native… it worked on my family and my girls family and lots of us became disenfranchised from tribal culture and we had to work at coming back to that culture and still work to be in modern society/ survival… I wish it was easier to engross myself back to my ansestors culture. Especially since my ancestors were prominent in the tribe Fred beaver was my great uncle and he took a different path same with my grandpas brother they are tribal I feel white… we gotta try to not let those stray

  • @MAGaBAMA_84
    @MAGaBAMA_84 7 місяців тому +16

    Sooo many people in Alabama, have native blood, but the Gov is making it difficult to trace your native blood, and tribal# We had to trace ours through our family trees, archives, and census records.

    • @NashBashy
      @NashBashy 6 місяців тому +3

      HI, what do you mean? How is the Gov prohibiting that? Curious...

    • @mikedavis6690
      @mikedavis6690 5 місяців тому

      Sounds like everyone else that traces thru the same means…..be glad you have those means .

  • @Brittneyannthompson
    @Brittneyannthompson 9 місяців тому +1

    This has touched the very depth of my soul. Thank God for you, Chief Calvin McGee and R I P.

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 21 день тому +1

    Amen 🙏 ❤❤❤❤

  • @suite42014
    @suite42014 3 місяці тому +2

    Thank you for bringing me hope and inspiration. It makes my heart bigger and better. ❤❤

  • @Boatjob1
    @Boatjob1 11 місяців тому +3

    I just watched this twice. One of the most incredible works of art on this subject that I have ever experienced. It leaves my heart full of joy, sadness, and glee as I reminisce during this time of holiday celebrations. After many stacks of paperwork dating all the way back to 1847, I was finally Federally registered and officially recognized Poach Band, I believe in 1987. I was a decedent of the Wards in Escambia County Florida, given birth at Naval Air Station Pensacola in Ward "P" (which discontinued live births on the base in 1963). I do remember receiving a check, either the late 80's or early 90's in the amount of $267 in which I gave to my grandmother for support. For many years, I attempted to then be place on the Poach roll's but my timing could have been off and they were always closed. Every year that I am in the area I always try to make it back to Atmore for the Thanksgiving event. Sorry for rambling as I am overwhelmed with varying degrees of emotion, both joy and sadness. God bless each and every one of you that spent even one second in the progression of such an historic piece.

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  11 місяців тому +2

      This wasn’t rambling. we always appreciate the honesty and vulnerability of folks who have been affected by these events. This was also a humbling story to tell that will forever be remembered by us. We desire to tell stories that have productive impact. This story was certainly that.

  • @TruckingToPlease
    @TruckingToPlease Рік тому +8

    Broke bread with the Poarch Band this Thanksgiving at their Pow Wow at Atmore. Wish that the Oklahoma Creek would have a showing in Alabama for these events.

  • @unyieldingcreek1
    @unyieldingcreek1 4 місяці тому +1

    Very interesting! Excellent video.

  • @KaccvHvtke18
    @KaccvHvtke18 4 місяці тому +6

    As a Muscogee(Creek) Nation Citizen in Oklahoma I would love if the porch band would leave our ceremonial grounds and ancestors alone and in their final resting place instead of building a casino right on top of them

  • @JaySilverStacking
    @JaySilverStacking 11 місяців тому +4

    My family has been apart of the creek tribe for years now I went and found out that we are related to chief Calvin McGhee my grandmother has been fighting to get me and my other siblings as a member of the tribe but they have not opened the Tribe roll since 2008 iv been able to see all of the casino they have opened they just bought a casino down around Fort Lauderdale Florida being the first time they are expanding outside of Alabama

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 21 день тому +1

    God will take care of them ❤❤❤

  • @tonysouthdakotah6774
    @tonysouthdakotah6774 7 місяців тому +1

    Was pleasantly surprised to find this video in my Recommendations today.

  • @nativeandindigenuscraftcre433
    @nativeandindigenuscraftcre433 3 місяці тому +1

    Hi thanks for sharing but it good thing to know all indigenous nations and indigenous people thanks again and good luck 🤞

  • @scottydont9540
    @scottydont9540 10 місяців тому

    Some of my oldest and fondest memories are going to the Pow Wow on Thanksgiving and it's great to see how far the tribe has come since then. My grandfather was friends with the Cheif and I my mom has great stories about him coming for dinner in his full regalia to talk business with my grandfather. I love that this film gave me greater context for that time and place.

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 21 день тому +1

    I have lots of effigies and points ❤❤❤

  • @L.F.Armistead
    @L.F.Armistead 8 місяців тому

    I can't tell you how impressed I am with this story. It was a long time coming but right does win sometimes. Thanks to hard work and sacrifice. It should have been easier

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 21 день тому +1

    I’m Lenape from New Jersey 😅😅😅

  • @marquesswhite3726
    @marquesswhite3726 3 місяці тому

    It touches my heart about there story may GOD continue to bless them protect them iam proud of my Creek blood my culture

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 21 день тому +1

    We where here first 😢😢😢

  • @factsnotfeelings4901
    @factsnotfeelings4901 7 місяців тому +2

    The Red Sticks and Tecumseh was wild

  • @UncagedSavage
    @UncagedSavage 8 місяців тому

    Thank you relatives..Much Love

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 7 місяців тому

      New Jersey Creeks?

    • @UncagedSavage
      @UncagedSavage 7 місяців тому

      @@alexwelts2553 . Many are scattered..here and there..in Oklahoma most will be found because they were forced there

    • @UncagedSavage
      @UncagedSavage 7 місяців тому

      ​@@alexwelts2553. Why would you think New Jersey ? Creek are from the southeast..not New Jersey

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 7 місяців тому

      Because Caldwell is a town in New Jersey. And because I grew up soaking wet in a creek in New Jersey taking direction from spirits that had me making my rounds, what rocks to flip, what plants to do what with, making trails and shelters, chasing the suckers upstream in spring. And I wouldn't have known they were spirits if they weren't still with me today showing themselves in every possible way. That's as creek as it gets, so I thought you were another jersey creek maybe..

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 7 місяців тому +1

      Also I wouldn't have known they were a named native tribe with a specific location if UA-cam didn't tell me. I have my reasons to believe that they might be fibbing and taking more liberties to rewrite history yet again.

  • @laxmix1111
    @laxmix1111 2 місяці тому +2

    Osiyo, My great great great grandmother was a creek Indian from Alabama and she’s not African American or white so I’m confused as to why this doesn’t depict the actual Indians who was here before the Europeans 🤷🏽‍♀️ peace and love

  • @georgemoten702
    @georgemoten702 5 місяців тому +3

    Forgotten ? Naw attempted annihilation,the strength and resilience of our people seeths!!!! My much love and light blanket everyone 🎉 Father Absolute is very happy for us peace and i must lean the language lol

  • @mikeandrews1899
    @mikeandrews1899 7 місяців тому +1

    In the 70's I went to school with a few Lumbee Indians by the name of Oxendine . Nice , hardworking people, but you didn't want to f with them ....they could , and would , fight like hell if you crossed them

  • @Og-Smoove
    @Og-Smoove 5 місяців тому +2

    My Mother's (Harjo) family story relocation to Bearden Ok

  • @biggyp.studios6075
    @biggyp.studios6075 5 місяців тому +4

    I don’t like how that guy is wearing a headdress when tribes in the southeast didn’t even wear those! That was mainly plains tribes who wore that

  • @ThomasDavis-eh9py
    @ThomasDavis-eh9py 6 місяців тому +1

    Save our Hickory Grounds !

  • @MrPoetnscribe
    @MrPoetnscribe Місяць тому

    Gracious at all those beautiful Creek women! There was a time that the Creeks owned black slaves, as did William Weatherford and many others. Thank God some of the Creeks stayed at home! I feel that God is giving Andrew Jackson the Hell that he deserves for the way he treated Indians. If it hadn't been for the Yamacraw Creeks Savannah would never have made it.

  • @honeyebby
    @honeyebby 4 місяці тому +3

    I am of Black and Seminole/ Creek indian descent. Nice video, but I will not believe that everyone is accepted until ALL OF US is acknowledged. Us black indians have struggled for years to be accepted into the Creek nation, and it shouldnt be this hard.

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  4 місяці тому

      We're so sorry to hear this. Thank you for watching our film. Stories like these truly deserve several films to truly capture it all.

    • @geminimoon6295
      @geminimoon6295 4 місяці тому

      ⬆️They’re so hateful they don’t care. They know they’re ancestors all came from Europe.
      FYI
      Stop calling yourself “Black”. I did. If you are Seminole/Creek be just that. When the Government reclassified our people to “black” that made them into a status. There is no such thing as black you are Indigenous, Autochthonous Seminole/Creek the original and no one can take that from you. Make them prove that you aren’t!⬆️

    • @xweezy91
      @xweezy91 3 місяці тому +1

      The Tribe is originally Black. Whites called it the Creek a “Negro Tribe” along with the Seminole tribe but “Seminole” being the Portuguese term for “Runaways” the original tribe name is Yamaasee which is also known as a “negro” tribe. This is all documented and the reason we’re struggling is because these colonizers showed up reclassifying us as negro and taking away our tribes by what they called “De-Tribalizing” then in 1988 relabeling us as “African” just so we won’t receive our rights and lands back. That’s why we’re sitting here calling ourselves “Black” which has never meant anything other than a color. Like our Grand Parents said “we were here when they got here”. Just remember, America sits in the Equator which is the same reason why Africa is Black

    • @timwarcloud
      @timwarcloud 2 місяці тому

      ​@xweezy91 that's revisionist BS! Your Sub-Saharans stop the vulturing.

    • @timwarcloud
      @timwarcloud 2 місяці тому +2

      What proof do you have? Descended from anyone on the final rolls? If not, guess what?

  • @ML-np5ml
    @ML-np5ml 13 днів тому

    Forgot to pick my cuz up last week too

  • @lesjones5684
    @lesjones5684 21 день тому +1

    Why did they steal our land 😢😢😢

  • @cheyackatustenuggee1836
    @cheyackatustenuggee1836 10 місяців тому +3

    They're White Sticks

  • @MAGaBAMA_84
    @MAGaBAMA_84 7 місяців тому

    My family is all mixed up.. I have Cherokee, Choctaw, and Chickasaw. My great grandmother on my dads side (his mother) was full blooded Chickasaw of Tuscumbia Alabama, My Grandfather on my mother's side was half (25% Chickasaw) (25% Choctaw) of Corinth, Mississippi (50+% white) My grandfather Lowe dads side was around (50% Cherokee) of Cherokee NC, and (50% German) So I have quiet a bit just mixed up. Lol Nearly all of my cousins got into top colleges free thanks to our Native DNA... Clemson university @ S.C., and Perdue University @ Ind.

  • @caterolle1335
    @caterolle1335 11 місяців тому +7

    Poarch Creek = Redstick?

    • @TheHealthyStudent
      @TheHealthyStudent 11 місяців тому +5

      That's a great question.... The Creeks were also known as upper creeks and lower creeks... The Prophet Josiah Francis was a Red Stick.....So was William Weatherford...... These were Creek leaders involved in the war of 1812 battle of New Orleans as well as the battle of Fort Mims.

    • @caterolle1335
      @caterolle1335 11 місяців тому

      @@TheHealthyStudent Now that i think about it,
      These probably would be the creeks that gel the US. The upper creeks traded with the Indians and negros in Florida cattle and food. It would make more sense that the us probably let them say because they had nothing to do with fort mims. The fugustive red sticks, black creeks and others ran into Florida or were killed.
      That makes sense right?

    • @jesburgess1964
      @jesburgess1964 9 місяців тому +2

      NO.

    • @caterolle1335
      @caterolle1335 9 місяців тому +1

      @@jesburgess1964 So who are these Poarch Creeks? The Mix Creeks that fought with the US?

    • @caterolle1335
      @caterolle1335 9 місяців тому +4

      @@TheHealthyStudent Invisible tribes calling themselves living the traditional way untouched when that’s what part of the reason the Creek civil war happened doesn’t really make sense to me.
      there were different creeks fighting on different sides. It’s weird to me that these “lost” or forgotten creeks came out of the 1800’s untouched. During that time you had the the Seminole wars going on, slave raiding, 1811-1821 wars. The us came down and did a sweep. It would only make sense that these were the mix creeks that fought with the us. Probably descendants of the mixed creeks and the soldiers that fought against the runaway Africans, Seminoles, fugitive creeks and fugitive Choctaws. I would hang my hat on that but to come out here acting like you didn’t have anything to do with nothing is crazy.
      Nevertheless that’s enlightening to know. I’m a descendant of a different group of Seminole and Creeks.

  • @bambam5130
    @bambam5130 7 місяців тому

    6th great grandson of Chief William McIntosh and 7th of George Cousins

  • @frankhawkins7635
    @frankhawkins7635 Рік тому

    How many are there now

    • @illuminatefilms5294
      @illuminatefilms5294  Рік тому +2

      The tribe has approximately 44,000 tribal members.

    • @djjohnson1612
      @djjohnson1612 Рік тому +4

      The Creek Nation in Oklahoma has that many, but not Poarch Creek. We only have about 3,000.

    • @frankhawkins7635
      @frankhawkins7635 Рік тому

      Thanks

    • @Boatjob1
      @Boatjob1 11 місяців тому

      The roll's are always closed even though I am Federally registered since the late 80's.@@djjohnson1612

    • @hiltonpearce379
      @hiltonpearce379 11 місяців тому

      My mother is muscogee HAnkinsinville Ga.​@@frankhawkins7635

  • @crimsonbear9336
    @crimsonbear9336 6 місяців тому

    My Grandmother's side was named Flowers.... think part of PORCHE... SOMEONE let me know if I'm right.... please

    • @joshuabloodsworth2262
      @joshuabloodsworth2262 Місяць тому +1

      my grandmothers side was named Flowers also, she was half Creek, from the Defuniak Springs area. On my dads side we are Bloodsworth, my grandfather was full creek from the Escambia area. Heschi brother.

  • @MillennialN64Dad
    @MillennialN64Dad 4 місяці тому

    We didn’t build those mounds

  • @DixieNormus-kc8zt
    @DixieNormus-kc8zt 3 місяці тому

    Baton Rouge Red Sticks > White Sticks

  • @OffroadVeterans-fk4pu
    @OffroadVeterans-fk4pu 11 місяців тому +1

    My Grandmother was 1/8th Creek. I guess I'm 1/32nd (if my math is correct). I wish I was full blood. I want to honor where I came from. I wish I was more like them. How can I connect? Do they want me too?!

    • @glendawhite905
      @glendawhite905 11 місяців тому

      My grandmother was full, muscogee creek that makes me 1/4 . nice to meet you .

    • @Realdeal984
      @Realdeal984 10 місяців тому

      I’m trying to connect as well, I reached out and not too much information was given. Do anyone else have any information my family is connected to the Hollinger family.

    • @lukemccardle2379
      @lukemccardle2379 5 місяців тому

      I have Native American blood found out through DNA I did research my dad's side of family migrated into South and Central Georgia in the late 1700s I wonder could I have Muscogee Creek blood?

  • @_rob_.
    @_rob_. 4 місяці тому

    Reparations done right.
    Success story.

  • @CheefCoac-y5m
    @CheefCoac-y5m 2 місяці тому

    😅

  • @Mr755134
    @Mr755134 Місяць тому

    That woman’s grandmother must’ve been a $5 Dawes Roll Indian since she didn’t know her origins

  • @Cattrez
    @Cattrez 5 місяців тому

    Iroquois confederacy are not push overs tuffing up

  • @ThomasDavis-eh9py
    @ThomasDavis-eh9py 6 місяців тому +2

    Poarch Band ARE NOT MUSCOGEE CREEK! REENTER OUR ANCESTORS PORCH BAND!

    • @alexwelts2553
      @alexwelts2553 4 місяці тому

      The spirits I grew up with in the new Jersey Creek, buried and consumed and non compliant and erased?

  • @Cattrez
    @Cattrez 5 місяців тому +1

    Keep wishing you pretenders

  • @COACHCALISPORTSTALK
    @COACHCALISPORTSTALK 18 днів тому

    They are not indians those are white people...

  • @SpeakinTruths
    @SpeakinTruths 4 місяці тому

    🧢

  • @akeemthegreat1700
    @akeemthegreat1700 6 місяців тому +2

    These are not the True indigenous people of this land

    • @NashBashy
      @NashBashy 6 місяців тому +3

      Hi there, yes, the native Indians are the indigenous people of the land. What do you mean?

    • @UncagedSavage
      @UncagedSavage 5 місяців тому

      ​@@NashBashy KANGS IS WHAT IT IMPLIES

    • @MrDarkElement
      @MrDarkElement 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@NashBashy
      They are Siberian imposters not the Copper Colored Autochthonous time immemorial occupants of Turtle Island. These people were groomed by the Jesuits, and Missionaries at The Carlisle Industrial School in Carlisle, PA and traded places with the true Amerindians. Trained in our customs yet never constructed anything except gambling casinos to this day. We built above and underground. Masters of agriculture and mechanics tricked by The U.S. Army and forced into concentration camps called reservations. Afterward, compulsory re-education under P.O.W. status the curriculum being about the "Out of Afrika", ridiculousness sold to our people as God-spell....163 years of amnesia. The Sleeping Giant has awoken and is totally pissed off!

    • @UncagedSavage
      @UncagedSavage 4 місяці тому

      @@geminimoon6295 . BECAUSE YOUR RACISM

    • @geminimoon6295
      @geminimoon6295 4 місяці тому

      @@MrDarkElementI don’t ever wanna see this again!! I’m so offended by this! 😢 My grandparents struggled down there in Alabama and Florida and they reclassified.

  • @Cattrez
    @Cattrez 5 місяців тому

    LMAO SELLOUTS

    • @_rob_.
      @_rob_. 4 місяці тому

      Sellouts????
      Have you EVER worked as hard as the ones who put in their lives to obtain this success???
      No.
      You haven't.
      So keep that lie to yourself.
      And that music you post, that's messed your brain up.

  • @jeroldmcarthur5748
    @jeroldmcarthur5748 7 місяців тому +8

    Where are the Dark skin Creeks at? Wow! My granny was one🤔

    • @UncagedSavage
      @UncagedSavage 7 місяців тому +1

      They reside in your head still

    • @jeroldmcarthur5748
      @jeroldmcarthur5748 5 місяців тому +2

      @@UncagedSavage Lol. Otay mayonnaise

    • @georgemoten702
      @georgemoten702 5 місяців тому

      They're the original Indians,stop dismissing love as one that's the thought pattern that ruined it all at the start of it all.​@@UncagedSavage

    • @MellyOmatic
      @MellyOmatic 4 місяці тому +2

      We are here. Fighting the the division that was created. #GrandmothersLand

    • @honeyebby
      @honeyebby 4 місяці тому

      We are still here! I am in Florida where my family has always been, and some instances in Georgia. We are still fighting to be recognized but i truly believe we wont have to fight for long because the real stories are starting to come out. All these Indians are white looking these days AND THEY WANT TO WHITE WASH OUT HISTORY....not the originals AT ALL

  • @Kche_Mkede_Mko
    @Kche_Mkede_Mko 4 місяці тому

    I know nothing of my Creek side. I know I’m Johnson/Berryhill/Darrisaw(sp) if anyone is kin out there, would love to connect. Im also Potawatomi and Choctaw. Megwech aho! 🔥💨🪶✌🏽🦅