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Machining Delrin (Acetal) vs UHMW - Lathing

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2011
  • This video is to show the difference in the machining (lathing) characteristics of delrin (Acetal) vs UHMW (Ultra-high-molecular-weight polyethylene)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 43

  • @vedranlatin1386
    @vedranlatin1386 7 років тому +20

    It's true Delrin/POM/Acetal machines much nicer then UHMW but you're not giving it a fair chance. Your stickout is way too long, neither plastic would machine well that far from the chuck without tailstock support. Primary problem you have is that tool is not biting into the material and it just rubs making heat and melting the plastic away. As others pointed out, sharp HSS tools will do much better then carbide which is made slightly dull on purpose.
    Also, and much more importantly, you're using your hand to slow down the chuck. I made that mistake the first time I touched the lathe and I count myself lucky to have walked away with just a slap on the wrist. I also hope I'm not dumb enough to ever do it again - it's a great way to lose finger... or hand... or arm depending on how (un)lucky you are. I'm not trying to be safety freak here, and it's your hand to use it as you see fit but showing it in a public video is inexcusable. Someone new to the hobby will see you doing it and not knowing better try the same... maybe with jaws sticking a bit proud of the chuck body just for good measure

  • @TheDrh2014
    @TheDrh2014 9 років тому +17

    A properly sharp hss tool will perform much better than carbide in polymers. Carbide is good for machining harder materials as opposed to high speed steel. Just a friendly tip

    • @Shermingtan
      @Shermingtan 6 років тому +1

      True but there are polished inserts for machining aluminium, brass and plastic which perform much better on pom.

  • @KIJs-gc6ux
    @KIJs-gc6ux 4 роки тому +4

    -Why not use your tailstock when machining UHMW ?
    -When comparing 2 materials, then make circumstances the same (stick out sucks at UHMW).
    -A tripod would have made a huge difference, nevertheless appreciate sharing your vid, cheers

  • @mxf2812
    @mxf2812 7 років тому +2

    Makes total sense. UHMWPE is an extremely wear resistant low friction polymer which is why the bottom of snowboards and skis are made from it - hence it resists machining. Delrin is very tough, hence used for M16 rifle butts.

  • @dennisweaver3145
    @dennisweaver3145 3 роки тому +2

    There is to much sticking out of chuck , you had delrin short in chuck . Uhmw is deflecting. Not a fair test

  • @benclarkson4205
    @benclarkson4205 10 років тому +16

    My eyes are actually hurting from focusing on the blurred subjects

    • @KnolltopFarms
      @KnolltopFarms 9 років тому +2

      I think I'm seasick too! LOL! Sadly it's one of the few videos online about turning UHMW, but I will be posting one while using a tripod and less glare soon. It won't be a comparison, just a single material with multiple process trials to find a decent cutting profile. Wish me luck, looks like I'm going to need it ;)

  • @RetroCaptain
    @RetroCaptain 9 років тому +4

    UHMW when cut with Steel Tools results in a finish as smooth as Glass. High RPM & Steel Cutters. I found Delrin to be soft in comparison to UHMW. Turning Nylon makes a continuous stringy cutting.

  • @TheKINGAMAZIN
    @TheKINGAMAZIN 9 років тому +14

    Your tools are sharper than your camera focus !

    • @rickylarch
      @rickylarch 6 років тому

      And that's not saying much ;)

  • @pb68slab18
    @pb68slab18 2 роки тому +1

    Just got done a job using this stuff when someone ordered it instead of Delrin because it was cheaper. Ya can't use carbide insert tools. Ya need to go old school. High-speed steel tool bit ground 15deg top and side , and RAZOR sharp. I ground mine on my surface grinder. Stoned it mirror smooth. Heat/friction is your enemy. Run about 200rpm and .005" feed per rev. Comes off like plastic wrap off the roll.pb68slab

  • @mattthomas1369
    @mattthomas1369 Рік тому +1

    How many rpm’s for that delrin? Parting tool recommendations?

  • @dogpaw775
    @dogpaw775 Рік тому

    did the fellah say what rev;s he was using with the Delrin?.

  • @ScoutCrafter
    @ScoutCrafter 8 років тому +3

    Outstanding video! Thanks so much for this!!!! 😃👍

  • @gideonjoe1269
    @gideonjoe1269 4 роки тому +1

    can this acetal use as mechanical seal?

  • @AWDn0t2
    @AWDn0t2 8 років тому +5

    Higher speed / feed, HSS, 0 degree rake.

  • @BoffinGrusky
    @BoffinGrusky 13 років тому

    Great info. Thanks for posting!

  • @mrmidnight32
    @mrmidnight32 4 роки тому

    Which one is stronger compressing against the fibers vs across from them?
    Basically compressing them long ways?

    • @bradnail99
      @bradnail99 23 дні тому

      What fibers? These are solid polymer chunks.

  • @alehax27
    @alehax27 11 років тому

    I think I had a job that called for UHMW. It cut pretty well with flood coolant.

  • @mushroomhill
    @mushroomhill 7 років тому

    I think I'm going to order some of this for a model im making. Im making an old torpedo with rivets on the sides. My question is would glues work on this material? Like hobby glue? I like the idea of how nice it is to machine. Just concerned i won't be able to glue anything to it.

    • @rudivi633
      @rudivi633 3 роки тому +1

      No, very difficult to stick

    • @samhamm
      @samhamm  Рік тому +1

      You'd want to mechanically bolt it down somehow, not glue it.

  • @jacobbuxton932
    @jacobbuxton932 5 років тому

    Is Delrin more brittle than UHMW?

  • @zztuber6164
    @zztuber6164 2 роки тому

    you had better results than i did.. my o.d. surface finish looked like a thread...

    • @zztuber6164
      @zztuber6164 2 роки тому

      any tips would be greatly appreciated

    • @Jim-MT
      @Jim-MT Рік тому

      @@zztuber6164 Probably was copolymer?

  • @Brammy007a
    @Brammy007a 12 років тому

    Thanks much..... very nice

  • @icecoldrugby
    @icecoldrugby 8 років тому +1

    what is he making? I only know of delrin paintball bolts, and those sir are not.

    • @samhamm
      @samhamm  7 років тому

      Bushings for automotive Suspension Components

    • @zhaoclaire6342
      @zhaoclaire6342 7 років тому +2

      uhmw works really well as bushings . if you are in need of UHMWPE pls email me at Claire@uhmwpes.com

  • @thomasgorre9285
    @thomasgorre9285 5 років тому +1

    You know you're watching amateur content when they don't know the difference between facing and turning.

  • @WXUZT
    @WXUZT 5 років тому

    Acetal seems graphite/carbon filled.

  • @orlogsgastenbaunen
    @orlogsgastenbaunen 12 років тому +2

    Use a positiv tool and very small nose radius (0.1 mm )

    • @bh4885
      @bh4885 4 роки тому +1

      You Just need a polished sharp tool . The radius does not matter.

  • @samhamm
    @samhamm  12 років тому +1

    Just trying to help :)

  • @flyingpictures1100
    @flyingpictures1100 4 роки тому

    Put it in the freezer over night

  • @donlessnau3983
    @donlessnau3983 6 років тому +1

    Jesus, hold the goddamn camera steady already.

    • @samhamm
      @samhamm  Рік тому

      Sorry, amateur hour :(

  • @damojfowler
    @damojfowler 9 років тому

    Awful stuff,Acetal is a pleasure to work with.

  • @elduderino1329
    @elduderino1329 Рік тому

    There are so many things wrong with this video. You should have used sharp tools with proper rake and relief angles, more appropriate surface and feeding speed etc. That being said Acetal machines nicer than UHMW but that demonstration was hard to watch.