Are Side Kicks Defendable? ft.
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2022
- Are side kicks unstoppable? Or are they defendable? Well, in today's episode, I have @SenseiSeth @GabrielVargaOfficial and IcyMike from @hard2hurt jumping into the conversation with me!
If you would like to see Gabriel and Sensei Seth breaking down Side Kick Pros and Cons, be sure to check out his video link below:
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Are side kicks unstoppable?
Another traditional way might be the drop block (otoshi uke).
Nothing's unstoppable. Just step back. It's always better to let a kick go past then to block it. Might end up with a broken arm like Cung Le did to Shamrock.
“If do right, no can defend” - Mr. Miyagi
@@dylanfitzpatrick9423 You forgot the last of Miyagi's teachings. "No be there."
@@JaybayJay Yeah. I thought stepping back is the ideal dodge too, until my sparring opponent started jumping on his other foot, chasing me. If it was a tournament, I would have gotten a penalty for going out of bounds.
I met Gabriel during his first karate combat fight and showed him a video of me landing a side kick in competition and he said “Wow that was a nice side kick” and it legit made my day
He is such a great person!!
Yeah man, to me that would be the highlight or even the highest peak of my martial arts 'career', would make my year fr fr
The look on Seth's face when Gabriel locked it up was hilarious. "There's always a bigger fish."
I'll be the first to admit I'm not very scared of side kicks...unless the person throwing them is next level. Examples: Raymond Daniels or Wonderboy would both be very difficult to side based on their side kicks.
Yes sir but you also have some high level taekwondo master with scary side kicks
High level side kicks are definitely hard to deal with! Sparring Wonderboy was tough, his side kick game is amazing.
Joe Rogan's side kick has insane power.
@@KevinLeeVlog So is it the person using the sidekick that's letting it down, or the technique itself? Is it not dangerous in terms of damage? Do you feel wonderboy's sidekick does damage?
I don't even do martial arts(arm wrestler lol), I just find watching you guys interesting. The different styles are so cool. It's like in arm wrestling people having their preferred methods/styles, but obviously its more strength/brute force based.
What's the purpose of the sidekick? is it for getting space or can you finish someone with it?
Why am i fascinated by this, lol.
@@arebee9024 Sidekicks are in a weird flux where the people who use them the most nowadays all use them for different reasons. Wonder boy Thompson for instance uses the sidekick as an
1. Effective distance tool in bladed stance
2. Mixup option after landing roundhouse or low kicks.
Some martial disciplines teach the sidekick as the your weapon of choice whenever someone, or multiple someone's, are to your side.
And with just a little tweak, such as an extra step with a step side kick, or a spin for a spinning side kick, or a low angle for kneecap kick, you can easily modify the weapon to cover more distance, counter forward rushing aggression, or disable a low target.
I tried my hardest to destroy this video... but they just kept going.
😂😂😂
While we're on sidekicks... just a little bit more detail from Karate. In Shotokan (and various other Karate styles), there are 2 version of each kick: the 'ke age' (translated as snap) and the 'kekkomi' (translated as thrust). This is true at least for front kick, side kick and roundhouse kick. Typically, you will see the thrusting side kick when people explained it, either in Muay Thai and/or Sanda. What sensei Seth refers to as the "kata side kick" is basically the snapping side kick. The purpose of this side kick isn't to KO or knock your opponent back, but to snap upwards quickly. Some say to think of it as like a jab as opposed to a cross in boxing. Unlike the thrusting side kick, you are not primarily striking with the heel of the foot, but with the side of the foot or even the instep, snapping it like a whip upwards. After that, make sure to snap it back down into stamce so you can let your hands go. Well, that's the old school explanation I was told anyway.
That’s pretty cool!!!
Gabriel's way is the best one honestly lol. He has one of the best guards I seen at least on UA-cam, all his defense is on another level because he drills it, he has people throwing at him and he is just blocking he says this is important to train up. The other one that I suspect also trains this is Dustin Porier, again extremely good defense techniques they use.
I do like the way Gabriel showed!
What Seth said at the end was a real eye opener because i come from a traditional karate background and i've done a couple of years of point karate trainer so i've always been taught the way Seth showed how not to do it and the reasoning was "if you lift the knee straight then your opponent will know what you are throwing" but Seth elaborated very well why that is a pitfall.
In Taekwondo we call it universal chamber because no one knows what that chamber could be , it could be question mark kick, sidekick, hook kick Or An Axe kick
3:14 very karateish move by mister Adam Kempo
hey I've been seeing that joke around and I don't get it
@@Gzussss Check Sacred Boxing's latest video.
Sensei Seth's full name is Seth Adams and he used to run this karate-teaching service called Adam's At-Home Kenpo.
Icy Mike thought it was hilarious and told Sensei Seth he might have checked in his name at a hotel under "Adam Kenpo". Sensei Seth ended up checking at the receptionist if anyone was checked in under the name "Adam Kenpo" and they just looked at him like he was crazy.
@@foursix32 thank you! youtube didn'T recommend me that video although I'm subed. cheers!
I'm not just impressed with Gabriel's ability to fight but his ability to teach. So many gems in this video. And as someone who prefers the sidekick it's good to know the counters to it.
In french boxing we are trained to scoop when the kick is extended, or push if the leg is still folded and then counter attack. We also use "revers frontal" to throw a "front round kick" above the opponent's leg (when still folded) and hit the gloves to bring the guard down, or hit the face with the tip of the shoe.
I wonder,how much can Savate learn from Taekwondo? Savate seems to be a much more practical and effective kicking style.
This thumbnail 😂
Amazing mid air split kick sir!
5:24 Pain
I have been practicing those kicks in Wing Chun, for me best protection from them are to not stand in some middle where he can kick you, stand far from opponent and there you can hook his leg with your leg( also can with arm, but I prefer leg hook), but the best to be in position to move fast in attack ( not to much spread legs from each other).
I am not English native speaker, so this is best way to explain 😁
When catching a kick I was taught to tuck it high under your armpit and lock it like you’re putting the foot in a headlock. Then you can control the opponent by turning their kneecap. Also you push them backwards so they have to hop and can’t punch you. I treat it like a single leg takedown and sweep the other foot.
During sparring I try to circle and jam them.
Gotta love seeing a Karate guy feeding the JKD guy all the “JKD answers” to countering Karate. Jam, intercept, cup sao/nao sao. Great exchange!
My two cents on dealing with the sidekick, or how we dealt with teeps, sidekicks in old school TKD.., *Basic concept is a flat chest presents a target but your counters will put you in a bladed stance/position and take your opponents attack off course and nullify it.
1) TKD round kick counter (starting from closed stance): As opponent's sidekick enters your kicking range, you answer by round kicking the living crap out of his hamstring/calf area (back of trhe sidekicking leg.) -Dont rechamber. You are presenting a flat chest target, allow the sidekick to enter your range, attack their kicking leg AS YOU GO BLADED, -knocking down/redirecting their sidekick away from your center line. You will end up in an open stance after your roundkick (tkd style bladed hips.) Depending on time/distance management, you can do a single power round to the back of the sidekicking leg or you may have to either SHIFT BACK to draw them in and then kick, or do a "double round kick" to draw them in, time or align your hips/kicks correctly. -This technique works quite well as your power round kick attack to the back of your opponents side kick leg forces their kicking leg off course and down to the ground.
2) Turn snap kick (some people call it "turn hook" or "wheel kick") with the intention of knocking your opponents sidekick attack to the ground -if as an extra you hit their head, then great . You're actually pounding the back of opponents sidekick leg with your calf/hamstring. Your turn-snap kick should be above your opponents sidekick leg and knocking or "clearing" it off course. Timing, good turn snap kick technique and making sure your opponent is committed in their side kick attack is key. Practice this one and see if your opponent can try and side kick you off balance/over as are turning. A good turn snap should knock their attack off course every time and pose a threat to the head as well if your opponent uses bad sidekick technique.
- 3) This one is weird and can be dangerous but it's amazing how well it works when timed right; -From a closed stance, when your opponent is offensive and commits to their sidekick, let it enter your range and at last minute before it contacts your body SWITCH to an open stance and smack the back of their calf/achilles with the forearm that's swinging forward. This technique is dangerous bc you're using the Olymipic TKD HAND DOWN style to achieve that forearm whipping to the back of their calf/achilles.
4) A fancy and advanced one is allow the side kick to come in fully committed, you lean waaaay back like your doing the limbo -at the same time do a question mark kick (staight up the middle like it's going to be an instep front kick crotch shot) -but quickly turn your entire core/body so what looked like a limbo defense/front kick is actually a whipping question mark round kick counter. What usually happens here is that as you limbo back and bring your kick up the middle -their sidekick slides up your chest towards your head, and then turning over completely/bladed as you round kick takes your head/body out of danger and you nail them in the chest of face. That's also a strange one but works pretty well.
Ok, if you try these and find success let me know.
been watching the colabs on all youre guys channels and these are fantastic. also leg jamb the chamber or ax kick the chamber work too
Sheesh! Being able to chamber a side kick without telegraphing is a hard skill!
I was thinking about it right until Gabriel went out and shown it. This is the best answer to a side kick and it can be found in Kata Saifa. The very first movement. Seth's ways to escape the hold are the ways to end up in foot locks, leg locks. Torn anckes, broken knees. Or get swept as Gabriel suggested. Imo if your leg was caught it's time to engage into grappling.
Amazing series of video !
Glad you enjoyed it
I like a combination of front push kicks and using the knee shield as Gabriel does. Sometimes you can do a roundhouse over that sidekick since a roundhouse archs while the sidekick is side on.
Alternatively you can just place your front foot on their leg pressing on it. So when they put it down you can follow them in. All that said I still like using the sidekick.
These collab videos are great!
Glad you like them!
you guys make me want to get back into martial arts seriously just to become a youtuber. JUST TO BECOME YOUR FRIENDS LOL. All very cool people with great content. Love you guys
Thank you!!!!!
Dirty tricks- when the guy sidekicks under your elbow, hard elbow straight down on his foot. A buddy did that to me one time and it hurt for about a week afterward
You're going to eat a kick so you might want to figure out how to take one by moving your torso a little to take up some of the kick force though
In TKD we have several counters but mostly either: jump-punch over the top, or switch to the side rather than backwards and immediately counter with either a kick or punch
your outro music is the "at least we don't have ar15's" backtrack
3:45 To counter this you can also practice your jumping. They sell jumping trainer shoes that can help you jump a foot or 2 higher. Then when you see him loading up just jump HIGHER than him and knee him in the face and bounce off him. Go full panther style! You can see Tony Ja do this stuff sometimes he just leaps over attacks and attacks from above.
Another technique is train train train kickspeed and then learn to kick his ankle or shin as he chambers his kick, before he faces the bottom of his foot at you, it will force him to have to step down on his own kick. In wing chun it would be like long range "Chi Gurk". Wing chun has alot of good kick blocks if you know how to use them cuz in emphasizes on chambering your kick in a very defensive way that can kick almost any kick out of place.
This is actually a place where Taekwondo becomes very applicable
Seth you teased with the LEG MOUSCLES switch up
Keage is meant to shear through ankles, knees, & hip joint by dropping the weight through the joint as in Naihanchi kata. If striking muscles such as the abdomen then kekomi is better. Basically keage for crippling leg joints while kekomi is for percussive shoke to the muscles & organs. Also it was Shotokan that was the first style of karate to raise the side kick above the hip to chudan while the Koreans raised it further to jodan. The Okinawan styles generally do it at gedan to the knee or ankle height.
0:01 I predict at some point in this video Icy Mike runs in and says, "You don't need to stop them because they don't work."
Wow, he didn't do it.
@@the_guitarcade we pushed him off 🤣🤣🤣
I'm very bad at kicking in general. Despite being 6'1" and having long legs, my body is built more for heavy lifting than it is for explosive movement. But one thing I have noticed is that if you are raising your leg above a 45 degree angle you have to be very good at sinking your weight into the ground and maintaining stability while shifting it. Not an easy thing to do when you are a heavier guy (compared to sinking your weight in a clinch or dropping your weight into punches and elbows).
With this in mind, I'm curious if the best kickers have either a low center of gravity or a slim build if they are taller.
5:17
Baaahahaha
Back in highschool my friend knew i was tkd and did the same brainstorm to come up with that one to get past my sidekick 'jab'.
Blanca streetfighter style.
I did exactly what Seth suggested (scooping). It worked for a while. However, my opponent adapted and started doing jump-spin back kicks whenever I did that. What then? Suggestions?
if you look up "solutions to the cut kick" on philip yun's channel, there's some ideas you can try with your leg that surprisingly aren't leg blocks, or clashes.
2:26 cut! Thats some good shit
I'm taking TKD with my kid. Instructor told me I did a great side kick.
We were doing spinning back kicks. :C
5:37 yaaaa! @Seth. Thats some good Chi Gurk! You can also train the Chi Gurk to where you ride his foot/shin back down and shove his knee/thigh out of place with your knee, instantly winning the standing position.
That’s how my sifu does it sometimes!
As a JKD fighter, you must sidekick and focus on retraction. There's a certain level of pushthrough and snap, but you still need proper retraction or else yes you'll get caught.
I love Gabriel so much hahahaha
Thank you all for the content, you're the best!!!
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2:14 😆 theory faces reality
one you can do since your are the smaller guy ( i was the same ), is bascially you widen your stance and parry with your lead hand ( forearm ) all in one movement,...since if its in 2 you pby wont have the streght to parry it all, but as you widen the stance and parry it becomes a little bit easier, and from there you can lead leg kick. ..... .... the only downside is...the danger of the kick going to the face gets higher.
All of those are awesome, tho I would really like to know how to bait a sidekick, so I can Dany Lawrence the bugger...
This AGAIN! Hahaha. I’ll say this for the 327th time: concealing/minimising the chamber makes the sidekick absolutely terrifying and about 100 times more effective and trickier to cope with.
SAMART PAYAKAROON 🙏
How can I leave SuperLike to how Gabriel holds on to Seth's sidekick?
One thing not mentioned here nor in "asshole moves" is that if someone relies on sidekicks they leave their ankle exposed very close to your elbow... So if you time it right you can elbow their ankle instead of scooping and they'll be VERY discouraged from throwing side kicks :) (note: gotta time it juuuust right, I landed that maybe twice in this year)
I've done a variation of that where I elbow the arch of the foot when being sidekicked. I've landed it once or twice, but it relies on impeccable timing. Still fun though.
That’s how we do it in Silat too!
I trained on a hanging heavy wooden plank so I can just punch peoples ankles with zero damage to my fist and instantly swelling their ankle.
Big 🦵 mossel!!!
I really wanted to say "👏LEG 👏MUSCLE" ...
😂😂😂
5:23 the gnome left you hanging :(
He didn’t see me 😭😭😭
THE 4th TECNIQUE! Stop drop and roll at his legs?
Can see everyone in vid and comments dont know Muay Thai cos you'd find out side kick wouldnt work really. Karate boy got his dreams broke when Gab just grabbed his leg Thai style and could finish but just made the point.
Good job, I rather learn how to fight as a small guy then just be taller and kick higher
😅😂
Sure just back up and punch their ankle or crunch their toes inward with a hook. If you land a good bone cruncher punch on an ankle or side of the knee joint its pretty devastating. But requires great timing and fist control. Or, if you can defect a sidekick and shove it, it will definitely off-balance them.
Bring in bill Wallace to discuss these side kicks
Side kicks are defendable and can be avoided but they’re also very useful
Very true!!
Doesn't Joe Rogan do his side kick the way Seth is saying he doesn't like? With chambering the knee up and then turning the hip over sorta? (more TKD style)
Sensei Seth did a video about that. He said that Joe shows doing it chambered but when he actually throws it for real he doesn't chamber it.
@@PHIplaytesting Ah that’s right. I forgot about that video.
Gabriel just straight up disrespecting Seth's side kick
Who's that funny guy that just drop in randomly then get iut
My advice: Cut the distance! Cut the distance and knee his balls. Works especially well against spinning back kicks. ANd generally kicks are for longer distances than hand techniques. So cutting the distance is generally a good idea, as it makes it harder to land the kick.
Thanks for sharing!
Denis sever
Side kicks don’t work