Horizon Zero Dawn - What are the best skills to buy? Awesome, good or rubbish?
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- Опубліковано 11 бер 2017
- Having completed all of Horizon's content, I imagine playing the game all over again with the knowledge of what skills are awesome, good or rubbish. Using a traffic light system, I recommend which skills to go for and justify why other skills are not worth the investment. A clear representation of this is shown with green, orange and red highlights around the skills making for the most comprehensible review of the available skills.
Really good advice. The only thing I disagree with is leaving tinker to the end. This is fine if you know the game, know the machines, know the weapons and and have all the strategies down ...and you are a good shot. But for a lot of people myself included - buffing the weapons early really helped. Being able to switch out mods from one elemental buff to another, or from handling priority to damage priority, or swapping a blue mod for a purple mod, or a purple mod for a better purple mod was invaluable.
yeah and what about critical hit, it really helped me.
@@garrethoogstad9881 the problem with that one for me is that the animation takes way too long to complete, and Aloy is vulnerable throughout the entire thing.
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its nice early on so investing 1 point is definitly good early. 2 extra points are usually not that important but if u feel u need it then its not bad
For me tinker one of the best skill in there, priority skill for sure.
and the skill it requires to have are great as well.
I happen to disagree with most of what he said, specially bout the spear stuff. The guy clearly doesn't know what he's doing.
Call Mount + is a great way to bring a big distraction in to play at a moment's notice.
When I found out the spear can knock down large enemies it made my game a lot easier. The heavy attack animation is long, but the basic strat is dodge, heavy attack, crit. You'll always have time to pull this off.
In groups you can light attack as you
kite the dangerous machine to take out the small machines without having to take your eyes off it.
Amy Jie bomb sling can knock down multiple enemies which also makes crits useful.
All true. And this is coming from a mad distance fighter hahaha. I like the assasin bows, cradled up on rock piles firing from angles that they didnt know existed hahaha. But your right on all accords for striking up close
Why not just rope the enemy freeze it then pelt it with hardpoint arrows
@@Constantine_xP It gets boring pretty fast. Also, the spear is way, way more useful early on, when your ranged and elemental weapons are dogshit. Being able to easily kill, say, a sawtooth with only 3 heavy attack/crit combos is very powerful. And while this stuff only gets better as you go, it's just outclassed by the op late game gadgets that you get
The point of Tinker is so you're not wasting your mods, so you can sell them for resources instead of having to burn or drop them. It helps significantly to get it early. Personally I prioritize the Forager skills as I am a big time resource/money guy so I can buy all the good weapons and armor sooner.
I've been mostly using spear attacks and sneak strikes and I'm level 32. The spear tree and the critical ascension branch are really good and I nearly never have to use arrows, I've got around 800 of each elemental resource. Playing on very hard, against large groups of enemies, I usually use stealth to get close and get a sneak attack, then two light attacks then one heavy and most of the time even large machines will fall down, leaving them exposed for a critical hit. Then I go hide since all machines will be on high alert and start all over again. Don't discredit the spear.
The spear is used it mostly to get 100xp critical hit bonus. It's how I leveled so fast.
MrBipson the strong attack knocking them down if sometimes enough ( not against human bosses but a group of standard humans sure) in addition knocking humans down with a bomb slinger then following with a crit spear can can also help too. It’s more of a when shit hits the fan strategy then what should be your main focus though. Trying to get headshots to take them out one by one should be what you go to first and the sling then crit combo can be for when shit hits the fan.
This guy who made this vid is an amateur, ignore his advice. The advanced players use the spear, this guy is clearly not.
That's my style!
This guy must have a different playstyle to me.
Yeah if you're a stealthy type that likes to down enemies with traps and such before being seen, you should probably make your own variation. This is for people with good aim that go right for weak points to kill enemies quickly
I just started playing this, and there are many ways to approach the game...just gotta find what works for you.
I wish I would have put points in triple arrow much sooner.
Amazing!!!! in depth review and very needed for beginners who's just starting and don't know what to choose first I wish I would've seen this video before I started LoL this game is already my favorite game of all time and I'm not even level 23 yet it's just epic!!
This is awesome. I went straight for Scavenger + and Triple Shot early on and haven't looked back. Some say to get them in exact order, I just can't. Great job man!
Thank you sir
@@Jambomus are you alive ?
I have waited all these years to open this game. You video tips are great!! Thank you!
I found it very useful to start by getting silent strike and the lure skill to easily survive early game, then getting all the extra resources skills from the forager tree (especially crafting more ammo), then building to the multi- shot skill, since that is really good for easily setting any enemy on fire from stealth by shooting tripple fire arrows. Getting tripple- shot made the tripcasters obsolete, since hunter bows use much cheaper ammo and deal damage just as fast when they can apply fire to enemies.
i loved using the spear and found it my most effective and most used weapon, so I personally upgraded the spear as much as poss as soon as poss. :-)
DMG me too
Spear is the strongest weapon in the game especially if you get all the stealth and strike abilities with it. You can literally run into a group of enemies and go tazmanian devil on them.
first 2 spear skills dont seem that useful. the third looks nice but number 4 seems very situational and not that useful.
so not sure about choosing these skills early on. maybe up to tier 3 when u use it a lot
really helpful and nice made, great job man!
Is there anyway to reset your skill points and rearrange them?
I kinda disagree with the critical hit. If you use traps at all, it’s good for helping with early game big machines. And it’s 1 point for first level.
Totally worth it imo.
I use melee alot
Well, you're not playing it right. Is the difficulty level ultra? One missed attack and either dead or close to it.
@@Rusl_U yea meele kinda sucks especially against larger enemeis, would be nice if it could have a larger AoE so you can destroy a lot mroe parts of the machine to later deal more damage
I balanced both and playing Ultra Hard in my first time playing this. It makes the gameplay more exciting. For me sniping them with arrows only makes the game not that enjoyable.
@@arleav8132 how the word "sniping" will be translated, otherwise Google does not find the translation.
Did you pass the game once?
@@Rusl_U like targeting them in distance with variety of bows. Not yet but i'm liking Ultra Hard mode. Btw, i'm playing with pc and yup i'm very extra focus while dealing with multiple enemies at once. I'm using both melee and bows. I don't enjoy using bows and arrows only. It takes out the fun.
WONDERFUL video, thank you so much (from a new player), you are right, as much as I love this game I thought I was crazy when I couldn’t immediately attack after my first attack with the spear until the animation was over. Thank you for confirming that it wasn’t just me. You’ve earned a new and future fan today 😊❤️😊.
This is exactly the video I wanted!!
Not wasting resources is good to sneak up and kill machines with critical hits which I used often at the beginning
knock down joined with critical attack is one of my favorite combos and helped me a lot
Great Video Man!. Made alot of sence
I just recently started playing this game and this video will help alot. Keep up the good work 👏
The skills trees have changed! Should have an updated one.
Yes. "Traveler" skills are missing (I think)
Dang what a helpful batch of videos. Even made a red/green light scale for the skills! You're a bada*s
I always go for the permanent Override, because I can recruit an ally before I attack to help me out. Also, you can get Double Arrow shot in the first 6 levels if you focus on that line from the start
You can roll when ever you want your not locked into a spear animation🤔.
I know this is old but as it just came out on pc, this isn't entirely true. Heavy spear attacks lock you out of rolling, light attacks can be rolled out of at any time.
@@LavaLamp_ yeah wasn't always that way they changed it in an update 😪
@@LavaLamp_ use to be able to roll out everything when it was only on ps4🤷♂️
I leveled up completely differently prioritizing spear attacks. And the game still was fun. You can sometimes stun lock enemies by knocking them down and doing critical strikes with some practice. There are more good ways to upgrade your character. I would just go with what sounds the most fun/useful to you.
You do Amazing work. Just got into the game and ur vids are helping immensely! Do u have a vid on weapons and modding them? Like what's best on average, and best to avoid on builds. or is perhaps having more then one weapon w different mods for certain fights.
First skills to get, gatherer stuff and the frozen wilds gatherer stuff, hands down best leveling experience going that way.
New Players, Go Straight for:
the Triple Shot,
Reuse Traps,
And the Herb Gathering ones to save some time.
Also, Only Invest in Purple Weapons and outfits. The others are just a waste of time and money. Match up Mods with what the outfits are already naturally good at.
You will always have plenty of resources from herbalist, and not be wasting traps, and triple arrows gives you a great amount of damage when needed.
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Half way through the game, You'll want the Tinker Perk so you can swap out your mods
What do I do if I don’t have a barge pole?
You should update this video, it seems like you also run the Ultra Hard walkthrough with different build order. Triple Shot is still the first priority, but second priority should be Tinker, because modifications in this game are so important. Quiet Sprint, Dodge Prowess, and Low Profile should not be priority; I personally have no difficult sneaking in this game even in Ultra Hard, why waste so many points in these skills.
Phong Nguyen Thanh congratulations sweat
I agree, I changed my mods too until I was able to get more of the same weapon and mod it differently to feature and different element more heavily. x
Я проходил на ультра-харде несколько раз и я прокачиваю умения практически на 100% также, как он (сам к этому пришел).
Умение "модификации" не особо важно. Этих модификаций почти нет в начале и нет проблем поставить нужное, потеряв то, что было выставлено. Это мелочь не стоящая трат очков умения.
Надо ставить то, что используешь постоянно. 3стрелы, добыча ресурсов, костей, бесшумный прыжок, бег. По сути к 32-35 уровню все самые важные умения уже есть.
Понятно, что тактика игры у всех разная. Отсюда различия в последовательности и важности того, что нужно изучать в первую очередь.
People seem to forget that this game is mostly about stealth approach into silent strike / R2 and silent strike OR abuse machines weakness. Thinker is not a must. If you have a powerful coil on a weapon and want to move it over (say a very rare with triple stats) it's useful later on the game if you're a completionist/perfectionist. Having higher stats on bows as you progress helps, but is not a necessity. For example, simply having the tearbast arrow (no coil in your weapon) still does his job of removing parts. Using a weak sling in order to shoot several ice bombs will still freeze the enemy. Aiming for the machine eye/horn/ weak part with precision arrow will do the job just fine and so on. My first playthrought was on normal and I unlocked Thinker towards the end.
Lol i didn’t use my skulls until I was level 15 or so, then I had 17 to spend at once xD
Really good stuff! For people who aren't beginners but aren't advanced, somewhere in the middle. Thanks
Call Mount+ and Tinker are the best skills in the game. Call Mount+ is infinite mounts and can be used as a distraction and Tinker just lets you do whatever you want with modifications. Change my mind.
I dabbled with the game on a normal difficulty but eventually stopped playing, just recently started playing again so I started a new game on ultra hard and I gotta say, I am completely prioritising different skills then what you are recommending and I am doing just fine. I am only level 13 at the moment though, so we will see how my play style works out later in the game.
I have the traveler skill tree as well and I focused on getting up to hoarder. Increasing the chance of getting the required crafting materials sooner has been an immense help early on. A larger pool of ammunition and traps as well as inventory size keeps me focused less on inventory management and more on story, combat and exploration.
Anyways thanks for the video, didn’t agree with all of it but we all have different styles of play and I still appreciate your effort into making this video. Keep it up and I’m sure the quality of your videos is bound to get better.
I have to say that to avoid that spear till late game .... Like really the better damage and crit plus ambush all critical I play on ultra hard and that's major use for me
Great videos!
When the game finally comes out on PC and you watch a video that highlights in the two colors you're color blind to.
I would do all the scrapper, scavenger skills early, otherwise thats just free resources you are just missing out on. It's like taking xp boosts early on, it just makes more sense
Thank you!!!
How effective is silent sprint? Right now I can't decide whether to get silent sprint or triple shot
3ple shot better than quiet sprint if only between the 2 skills
Heres a combo: if u have knock down hit the enemy with heavy atack so knocked down then do critical hit, and repeat that!
Edit: a grammar fault
Thanks
well explained mate cheers
Idk why but I wanted to complete them 1 by 1 on each section and only got 2 Forager skills left and got them on my second playthrough, herbalist (healer skill) can only be useful if you dont have any healing pots while fighting thunderjaws.
I guess he doesn't really like the spear as much, spear is easy pie for me :P
I first got all the skills that give extra resources which was really good for the grind
Awesome content
I would have to disagree heavily on no spear skills or the ones for multiple arrow shots - reason being, I more often than not find it is MUCH easier to snipe out the aggressive types from a distance and try to one-shot them if you can using precision arrows (x3 is all the better) and that usually leaves few enemies to worry about on the battlefield by the time that initial sniper style attack is over - I hit them from FAR away and only move in when I've taken out the aggressive types, and with the spear skills when you DO move in on a lone, tougher target once clearing out stragglers from afar, it's much easier to knock it down after dodging the initial attack they try to swing your way. I've been hunting for shell walker hearts by simply running up to the thing while firing a few shock arrows, dodging the first hit and knocking it down then using a critical once down. It's great. No fuss, no muss. But then I'm a much more direct type of person - I'd rather charge in and just go at it once I've cleared out potential annoyances that might interfere than sit around all day trying to pick off the bigger thing with arrows - kill the weak, take the strong head-on. That's the way I like it. I got through about 30 levels like that and it was just fine.
Any new videos for Forbidden West?
Get the critical hit skill, it will help you a lot as a beginner. Plus it is a required skill to complete hunting grounds and get lodge weapons.
Plus, it kills stuff quickly if you've knocked it down.
The benefit of the overide skills for me is a distraction. If your ravager ally is distracting the enemies you can pretty much take out all the enemies that can be one shot by stealth skills. Then if there are enemies that won’t be one shot by you set up some traps stealth strike them lure them into the shock trip wires and shock traps crit hit them then the ally machine will often knock them down allowing for another critical hit taking them out. Them having more health so that they can reliably keep a thunderjaw off you while you stealth kill and hack all the other enemies is very helpful. Also critical hit is very powerful against human enemies as a follow up to a blast sling shot. A single blast bomb can knock down a group of enemies which then you can finish off each with a crit or just heavy attack then crit can be good if are discovered by a single human enemy while stealth killing all of them. So if you are having trouble against a human encounter it can be worth it to pick up.
yes but u dont really need any buff to override for that...and yes at least 1 point in critical hit is pretty useful early on
cobrazax unless you want infinite mountable distractions.
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For a short duration distraction u dont need long override. Its duration is very generous for a distraction
cobrazax unless you are fighting something like a storm bird it will kill even a full health ravager really fast. So having the ability to call infinite striders can be useful to get the storm bird off your back and give you time to aim your rope caster.
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Well u can just kill it quick without rope
one of the few things I strongly disagree with is leaving the right path of 'Brave' until last, i think the 'Knock down' skill might just be one of the best skills there is early game when paired with crit hit+, the combo of dodge and knock over carried me through the majority of my early game fights because early on your bow can do really low damage and firing loads of weak arrows can get expensive when you can just spam crit hits for free, i do feel like my opinion is slightly swayed though as in every game I play im that guy that loves to melee and avoids ranged combat, so from the very beginning i was investing into melee as much as I can, only quite late in the game did my bows actually start to keep up with and overtake my crit spam in efficiency
Heavy melle is good for sawtooth and ravager also I love one shot wacther by jumping higher than them and high ground kill however if your very use to heavy meele you could die so start to practice
Yep.. good advice.
nice video my guy
I upgraded all the foraging line + concentration and double triple shot first.. the rest is kinda garbage..
That is what im looking for! Played 4-5h and its easy on normal... not i go on hard and start again ;) I like pure level paths.
Started the game on the hardest difficulty and resources are really hard to get and in most cases you want to avoid melee/ straight up fights with machines, and unless you want to grind to get good weapons and no waste a purple mod on a rare or uncommon weapon you will want tinker otherwise the best bet would be to farm until you can buy purple weapons but even if you get a purple weapon what happens when you get a better mod and want to replace the one on your weapon destroying a purple mod would suck so i would say get tinker if you are playing on the hardest difficulty if you just doing normal go for combat stuff first
While I have to agree that strike from below and tightrope firing are not skills to rush for, they are not entirely useless: both seem to be most applicable against humans.
The tightrope skill seems to work well in many bandit camps as humans tend to not look up until things are falling on their heads (and if your aim is good, it's too late).
Strike from below of course is human-only, and I have been able to use it once or twice so far. The trick is knowing how because the game does not give you opportunities on a platter: you have to make them. Although you can't use your focus while hanging from a ledge, you very much can whistle. The rest is left as an exercise to the player ;)
Also, I watched your play-through and noticed you're not so keen on strike from above. This skill has gotten me out of trouble many times... in ultra-hard (I used it maybe once through my two normal play-throughs). Any time you can get 1-2m above your opponent but still close enough (eg, steep hill, boulders, etc), you will get the opportunity. It is fantastic against scrappers and other small machines. Also, at least against smaller machines from a reasonable height, the attack will break your fall (eg, dropping onto a watcher in a cauldron core). Dropping onto a sawtooth from the top of the red rocks near where you meet Varl before heading to the Ring of Metal is not so good for your health (fumbled a multi-notch and SFAed instead of notched).
Still, great advice. Unfortunately, Frozen wilds messes it up slightly because I so very much like gathering while mounted. Machine repair is meh, but hoarder helps later in the game.
You say lure is gold but rocks are easy to find and work just as good if not better cause you can get the machine to go where you want instead of just bringing it to you. You can make good or bad reasons for a lot of skills. The tight rope skill is good when you going through bandit camps where I tend to take the high ground same with death from above. It’s not as good for machine but are great for bandit camps which you don’t say much about when you do it a lot in the game along with fighting machines.
Early game on Ultra Hard difficulty (anything under Lvl 15 tbh) , Lure Call and Sneak Strike are fucking OP as shit. You just slowly instakill all the machines, and if you want you can even hack a Watcher and watch the world burn
I appreciate your time, but you're not really explaining what level to get what skills. Are you basically saying get most of the green ones first? cause you proceed to highlight the orange ones too.. Maybe I'm missing it... I'm drinking. thanks for making the video though!
Xergius - All you need to worry about is buying up the green ones first followed by the orange ones before proceeding onto the next stage. That will make everything fall into place regarding levels as you will find yourself saving skill points to invest into the green or organs skills.
Oh, didnt realize it was in stages.
i guess i play this game different most... still like the slow burn of the Stealth Play to much. I went heavy Prowler and Gathering. I enjoy meticulously thinking about battles planning escape routes if require... That Long Dodge is awesome the Ability to be true ninja just into a bush 10 ft away if your lucky you totally jump from one bush to the next. i would say 85% of the game you can stealth... BTW only play on Ultra Hard... No Switching to get cheaper prices. Gives you something to work towards.
Gatherer scavenger in my opinion are the first two skills any players should get and as far as you talking about silent strike its useless unless you're playing a stealth build besides critical hit and critical hit plus does more damage than silent strike and gives you more experience
GOOD VIDEO☺❤❤❤❤😍😍😍😍😍
Why does my game have traveler skill tree and other people do not?
It is only fotlr the Complete Edition .I have it too ...(At least I think so )
"Intermediary" is a word but the word you were looking for was "intermediate" or "interstitial."
first time playing, level 35 about right now, i did pretty much everything exact and use the same strategies. i clicked on the video thinking "his last video about machines increased my brain knowledge so this one will too" i guess im better at this game than i thought or maybe im just lucky at choosing whatever skills
I found critical hit very useful
Thansk for this even though I have completed the whole skill set. I can still use this to tell my friends
Spear is very effective
Not ultra hard.
As far as modifying goes. Handling is key. The speed at which you can loose your arrows when you have a bow with three handling mods is godly.
well if u do more dmg with them u spend less resources on ammo...so it depends on what u prefer
I play on ultra hard and use the spear so much
2024?
Really good videos no spoilers and excellent advise! Regards!
I disagree with some but its a good video
You should actually try to understand the skills yourself, try to think of whats best for your playstyle and just make your own path
What you say about the “movement lockout” is so true and is one of the weakest points in the game. There’s also a problem of her sometimes not drawing her bow after you have fired a focus shot. So you aim a vital shot, release the right trigger and nothing. She hasn’t pulled the string back.
Dont forget when arrows pass right through human enemies
@sbcontt YT I thought that was just me!
Would have been really helpful if youd numbered them in order of which ones to get as a whole .
The spear knockdowns became so important to me once I got it... In fact it was so cheezy it made things easy later on. So disagree
my personal choice was to choose the vegan converter for the human enemies, they are spending so much time telling all the non-converted humans how wonderful it is being vegan that you can easily sneak up to them and take them down.
Tinker was the first skill I saved up for. We definitely have different playstyles. Thanks for the video!
Забавно. Первое видео, которое соответствует тому, как я прокачиваю. Возможно, не один в один, но очень близко. У него показ идёт не по порядку, перескакивает местами, не совсем понятна последовательность, но плюс/минус также. Причём к этому пониманию я пришел не сразу.
И удивлялся, что многие блогеры советуют не правильно. У него почти на 100% как нужно. Исключая +15% урона. Его я прокачиваю чуть позже. Оно тоже не особо важно.
По сути все самое важное прокачивается к 33-35 уровню. Все остальное малоэффективно или не особо нужно, не особо много полезного добавляя.
На ультра сложности важно добивание и свист сразу. И 3 стрелы к 11-12 уровню.
Раньше делал это к 20-25 уровню и понял, что ошибался, сам пришел к тому, что надо 3 стрелы сделать максимально быстро. Сразу же, как будут прокачаны все нужные первые умения.
А смысл вообще в 2х/3х стрелах? Урон в секунду намного хуже чем если ты просто спамишь, точность у таких залпов не стопроцентная, то есть даже на расстоянии, где они по дпсу в теории выигрывают, тройные выстрелы всё равно насасывают. Я прокачал этот навык одним из первых, понял какая это параша, и потом использовал его только чтобы кабанов с одного залпа валить
@@lred1383 что такое "спамишь"? От бедра стреляешь? Ну и в чем разница?
По времени немного выигрываешь, но точность намного хуже. Чтобы не мазать надо стрелять по большим машинам или в упор (в упор даже в Рыскарей и Падальщиков не удобно, а с большимт в ближнем бою ты подставляешься, они прекрасно убиваются на расстоянии). Какой может быть спам на мелких и подвижных? Если стрелять дешёвыми стрелами ещё и небольшой перерасход боеприпасов идёт. А стихийными или дорогими, типа высокоточки - это вообще не вариант. Там итак не сильно много боеприпасов. Стрелять желательно точно. Плюс в DLC другого типа луки. Они не наносят нормативный вред от стрельбы от бедра. Только полная натяжка. При одиночной и ненатянутой до конца - урон смехотворный.
Все это ты рассказываешь об ультра сложности?
Потому, что на 3-4 сложностях можно почти что угодно делать. А на 5 и тем более 6 - уже не все работает. На ультре вообще нехватка боеприпасов.
Там вообще хаотичная стрельба (от бедра) противопоказана. Ну если у тебя это работает, ок. Мне такой тип атаки не нравится.
Я прекрасно играю с 3 стрелами. Если для 100% заморозки нужно 3 стрелы, то смысл их стрелять по одной? Аналогично с Пилозубами и Лиходеями, если нужно 3 огненных, зачем я буду стрелять по одной.
Стрел же укреплённых надо дофига. Удобнее стрелять пачками. А на подвижных и быстрых, типа рыскаря, падальщика или ловчего лучше залпом. Больше шансов попасть хотя бы 2 стрелы. А спамом играл мой друг на 3-й сложности. Мне не понравилось. :) На 5-6 сложности у него бы так не вышло.
@@lred1383 поэтому с моим стилем (да и судя по тому, что многим похоже играют в плане натяжки стрел), лучше качать 3 стрелы максимально быстро. К 12-15 уровню. На ультре это очень важно и удобно.
Love you from Pakistan
Critical Hit should be learned early.
Tinker is the first skill you should try and get, after silent kill and whistle.
I think knockdown ia really good
My game has an extra skill tree called traveler
It's because you played the dlc
I tried but I couldn't take another erm ahhh 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ just a note write a script before hand
i am playing on hard.
Just consider these are the skills for his playstyle and in the killing every machine where most of us would have used the spear fighting a couple watchers he jumped around and used hunter reflexes and not as many people use that playstyle so he my not think some skills are good.
The best skills is using trainer 🥺
Where the hell are your 'Traveler' skills? One categorie with two times four skills is missing.
Edit: Probably a later update then.
Am i your soul mate because i would choose the same first too
Aiste Butiene yes u are
Now kiss.
titanic
30fps :(
Balanced aim is extremely situational, but most of the time useless.