My dad served in the Iraq-Iran war . Used a Chinese AK, and at some point, he brought it back and kept it for decades as a home defense rifle. He has never held or seen a Tabuk before. This goes to support the point you guys made about the rifle not being a standard issue.
@@subixbarbarasson1990 Elbonia is an often overlooked but important part of small arms history. They did things there that no one else would even think to try.
@@lordperezident I know some of his early vid with TFB TV were harder to watch to some since he had wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth making his oral commentary less effective, he has really come around since his debut
I think the reason Ian hasn't had him on recently is because of his "wet work" assignments across the globe. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not 😏
Thank goodness I wasn't the only one who noticed that. I honestly think they're fairly well made weapons and enjoyed this and I'm going to have to go out and find one of those and the Yugo's. But the first thing to replace will be that clicky trigger reset.
@@pissingeverywhere not really. M70 trigger reset is about same loud as releasing m4 bolt by slapping bolt catch. Btw charging AK in small room is so loud your ears ring. No joke
@@smile6868 it's obvious Saddam had Gaz agent . And chemechal weapons . Just Google (halabja) you'll see what I mean . His air force bombed they Kurdish town with gas in 1988 and killed over 5.000 civilians at the end of Iraq Iran war !
"Be careful when you fight him, Snake! His knowledge far exceeds anything you have seen before. He will use your weapons against you. With a barrage of knowledge about your arms he will leave you stunned. There is a reason they call him the GUN JESUS!"
@@HappyBeezerStudios imagine him as a recruitable character though he'd probably be in charge of the base armory and give a weapon bonus effect to all combat personelle
There were also many Polish workers building infrastructure and factories in Iraq and Syria some decades ago. Seems Iraq had some serious deficit of engineers, technicians and skilled labourers.
@@jebise1126 it was the other way arround: Serbs wanted to stay in Yugoslavia, we made each one of them, unlike those who served Germany in two world wars and never liked it.
In this video Ian is wearing the Särmä TST Field pants from Varusteleka in Finnish M04 desert camouflage, a Särmä TST L1 merino t-shirt, also from Varusteleka, a Syrian beret, an unidentified belt and probably some form of footwear. On his left arm is a patch from Silah Report.
Does make you wonder why it's not far more common. It is a really useful little feature. Also let's you check the chamber is clear without unintentionally loading a round.
@@cgi2002 Probably because not being able to chamber a round with the safety on seems like an anti-safety feature. It's also a potential training liability.
@@alltat I dunno, seems the opposite of all of those to me. It's a problem that training itself would rapidly fix, and I don't know about you, but I don't want soldiers who can't atleast figure out this simple thing in any military.
@@neuzdost1939 nothing is, but this isn't a difficult feature to add (it basically requires next to no engineering and no extra parts). I'm not saying its vital but it is useful, and alot of guns (especially AK patterns) could have this feature without any major design changes.
@@Axemantitan Yup - do a search for photos of the French Foreign legion and they have the badge over the right eye (or even further right than that) and the beret slopes left.
I haven't seen Miles in a couple years and now I know why. The lifestyle definitely changed how he looks but he's still the same pleasant man he's always been.
4:12 د- دبابة = Tank Pronounced: Dabbabah ش- شخصي = Personnel Pronounced: Shakh'si 10:15 It does probably refer to a year which is 1423 in Hijri calendar 1423 = 2002 - 2003
Thanks for the valuable information guys. I’m from Saudi Arabia and I own a lot of Tabuk AK47. This the first time I know the reason behind the name as a vast majority of us thought it’s related to Tabuk city which is in the north of Saudi Arabia. So again thank you guys.
"In some cases looters got there before the US Military" At least that's the story that those assigned to secure and catalogue were told by the elements that got there before them.
"T" on Yugo grenade launcher sight is for "Trenutna" and marks HE type of mine, contact triggered, while "K" stands for "Kumulativna" and is meant for cumulative mine (or armor piercing one).
Apparently the quality control on these was extremely varying. Kalashnikov group has a video specifically about Iraqi AKs, in which he lists some the more comical defects. The allegation appears to be that as soon as the Yugoslav team departed standards of production dropped off sharply, while the personnel involved in assembly were often barely trained.
Actually, after Iraq could no longer pay Zastava, they left. Iraq tried to keep making these themselves with poor results. Kalashnikov channel made a videobon Tabuks.
@@nolanolivier6791 don’t believe the Russians that guy who made that video never been there they have tabuks that served in 2 wars and still work just fine
@@lenardjacop9121 those are the exceptions, not the rule. Just ask any Iraqi veteran, former Jihadist and Kurd soldier and they will probably tell you they've used them just because they didn't have anything better laying around.
TRA did a Maadi build for me - fantastic attention to detail. It's cool to see their work featured here and some of the lineage of the Tabuk family discussed. One point - there are more than a few Tabuk parts kits which came back in early OIF, as well as (I'm sure) a few complete rifles. I couldn't point fingers at numbers but over the years since 2004 I've seen more than a few genuine Tabuk parts in the US as well as several entire parts kits, all of which fetched a premium at the time.
I think he has been your best host, you've ever had on FW. Very good with the flow, and being great supporting you as your giving the "history" so to speak.
@@altergreenhorn They did say in the "Worst Kalashnikov" episode that the nightmare started after they lost the Yugoslavian support. Going to be interesting to see the two remaining episodes that is left.
I used to have some of that Yugo brass cased ammo. It came in 40 rounds packs already on stripper clips. Sealed bullets, sealed primers, annealed brass. Seemed to be pretty good stuff, but I can't even describe the smell of the burnt powder. It was not pleasant. I think I paid like $8-$10 per 40 rounds. I may still have a few clips of it banging around somewhere. Haven't seen any in years so I think I saved what I had left.
@@oldscratch3535 I bought a couple cases of that stuff from Samco in Miami, the day after Obama was elected in 08...even drove there from WPB to pick it up...nice little 90 minute drive.. It IS CORROSIVE ...be careful.. ask me how I know...
14:50 - the same technique works with Polish kbk. wz.60 (karabinek-granatnik) aka kbk wz.60 AK-GN (Granat Nasadkowy). Live round in chamber - set selector to safe, charge the charging handle - round will be extracted and ejected.
Interesting point on the issues with Arisaka data (and other WWII technical data from Japan). Due to how complex the Japanese language is even if there are surviving technical documents they are difficult for people to find and make use of. This is because to properly read/understand/translate the documents requires someone who knows both Japanese and English fluently, and who understands the information enough to even read it. A single word (Kanji) can have multiple meanings depending on the context, and if one has never learned that Kanji in the specific context the technical document is using, the meaning is lost. Much of the technical data we have on the Japanese "Zero" fighter comes from US testing of captured Zeros despite the original technical data for the zero being available.
I feel like this has been the best shooting audio thus far. The report seemed quieter, so the action/resonance of the gun and steel hits were audible. Pretty nice.
I love Miles, he's out traveling the world to bring us the most obscure firearms information, and a whole lot of funny stories about gun culture in the developing world.
The Tabuk is originally designed to use the Zrak ON-M99 optic. This is a clone of the M76 scope with a 7.62x39 BDC. Yugoslavia also made M76 optics with 7.62x39 BDC. They are labelled M70 7.62 on the elevation turret, just like the Zrak ON-M89 optic. I use one on my Tabuk clone.
Until now, I never know why the Dragonuv style buttstock had that distinctive cutout in it. I now see how it can be used for a hand to pull it against the shoulder... Very cool, clearly not just cosmetic or for weight reduction. Awesome video.
Yeah the rpk was one of the first that started using a "club foot" style buttstock for that purpose. Since then alot others use the same principal In a different style.
First wtching Brandons tt( which was a long time service pistol for LEO in my native Croatia ex Yugoslavia) and next thing I watch is this 😊 AK 50 t- shirt is priceless...
Was wondering what happened to Miles. I thought he and the precision rifle guy were the best things on TFB. Nice to see he’s doing well and still feeding his interest in Central Asia.
My understanding was that the tabuk was supposed to be more of a DMR and it's not unlikely I'm wrong about that. What I was told years ago, offhand, is that a tabuk is a yugo pattern AK with an RPK heavy barrel.
And wearing a Brandon Herrera, "The AK Guy" tee shirt which I believe is made by Matt Carricker's (of Demolition Ranch, Off the Ranch and Vet Ranch) screen printing company "Bunker Branding".
I've always heard complaints about underfolder AKs being uncomfortable to shoot. I never had a problem with mine. But my wife didn't like it, so I ended up converting it to an AR-style buffer tube.
@@yassertabikh5362 I used the Definitive Arms conversion kit - that's running $70 these days. As I recall, I had an extra buffer tube and stock sitting around, but if you don't obviously whatever you get would add to the cost.
@@strahinjastevic7480 Probably people who've never shot one and are just repeating internet lore. "Forum X said they suck, so obviously they do". 🤷♂️ And for the record, my wife's problem was the length of pull, not anything to do with the underfolder stock itself.
صناعة منشاة القادسية العامة التابعة لتصنيع العسكري في اليوسفية قرب بغداد التي كانت متخصصة في صناعة الهاون 60 ملمتر وهاون 120 ملمتر ورشاشة تبوك . ومسدس طارق . شاهد عيان
Granade scope is not in English. Its Serbian. T is for "trenutna mina" (anti infantry mine), K is for "Kumulativna mina" (for hiting bunkers, vehicles etc). K is biger so flying distance of mine is shorter. It looks almost similar to Yugoslav Zastava arms from that period.
@@grimmgod4805 I have to admit that despite what I said, I did watch him just to see how cringy he could be, almost unwatchable. However after he was a regular there for a while, he did get better.
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You guys look like two mercenaries from a cheesy action movie
Wild Ducks.
I wonder if that explains the helicopter in the background. :)
,So true,I cracked up!
Two mercenaries discussing their firearms while they wait for the protagonist of the film to show up and blast them away.
Actually they were advisors for the movie "Lord of War".
Miles is the kind of guy who vacations in the Arizona desert in a black shirt to escape the heat of his everyday job.
Good thing Arizona weather is amazing during this time of year lol high of 65-70s!
@Sigkim what part of Arizona are you in? @Sigkim
My dad served in the Iraq-Iran war . Used a Chinese AK, and at some point, he brought it back and kept it for decades as a home defense rifle. He has never held or seen a Tabuk before. This goes to support the point you guys made about the rifle not being a standard issue.
Iv studied every modern war, and that one is the only war that makes my skin crawl, god bless
@@guisseppistrombopolis9082 then your study was poor.
Mine too but my dad had a tariq and a tabuk
It became standardized in 1990
Quite a nasty war to read about. To those who don’t know what it was like think WW1 with trenches and poison gas but with modern technology.
Tell your father, does he remember Juba?🇮🇶
4:13
د = Dal
It stand for "Dabbabah" which is "Tank"
ش= Sheen
It stands for "Shakhs" which is "Personnel"
Dabbabah sounds like a silly word, heh.
@@ChrissieBear many arabic words sound silly when you type them in english, father is Ab in arabic
@@Timsturbs Hemar pronounced like "He - Mar"
Just come from Kalashnikov group video about the worst AK ever made...
Iraqi AK it did a "great" 3rd place there.
@@altergreenhorn The first place would probably be the one Ian made a video on lmaao
Most people match their hats with their shoes, Gun Jesus matches his hats with his guns.👌
Perfect description. I'll never be able to unsee that.
😆
A man of culture.
Wait, I'm supposed to match my hat to my shoes? Says who?
what gun?
Well he’s entitled to accessorize. And since he’s great at it.
Someone send this man a Fedayeen helmet.
*deep Darth Vader breath*
Kind of hilarious that Saddam made those helmets b/c his son loved star wars so much.
@@iolipuara3979 Strange to imagine some Star Wars loving kid grew up to become the absolute monster that was Uday Hussein.
@@J-BiRTH he was indeed a monster . Bloodthirsty psychopath . I have no words to describe him
@@J-BiRTH When you think Darth Vader is the coolest but don't realize that he's still a bad guy.
Has ak-50 shirt “ah I see your a man of culture as well”
12:25 "Export to Elbonia"
_Almost missed that, Ian's really taken to this Elbonia meme rather seriously hasn't he._
You can recognise the Elbonian exports from the special-order ventilated metal handguards and the characteristic 'Drunken Yak' acceptance marks.
I noticed that too. Wtf is Elbonia? All i kan find is some komik book shit. Is it all an inside joke?
@@subixbarbarasson1990 Elbonia is an often overlooked but important part of small arms history. They did things there that no one else would even think to try.
@@catfish552 sometimes to our great pleasure at the wacky creations that occur as a result
@@subixbarbarasson1990 go look for the q&a that Ian did about arming elbonia and the dp12, it should explain everything
This video has a message for Brandon to get on with the AK-50
Or any AK in general
Literally any AK, for a firearm business to function they need to build and sell firearms.
They seem to not be doing that at all.
He just made an update video wher he tells he soon got somthing ak50ish together
@@alligatormonday6365 unless the business is a cover for him to own full autos
@@spacecowboy3719 ^
Miles needs to be a regular, he's fantastic
Hes a regular A hole over at TFB. Ugh I cant stand the guy.
@@dannyray3853 He's one of the nicest guys you could hope to meet, is a prior service Marine, and knows his guns.
@@dannyray3853 why can't you stand him? What does he do that make him hard to watch?
@@lordperezident I know some of his early vid with TFB TV were harder to watch to some since he had wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth making his oral commentary less effective, he has really come around since his debut
I think the reason Ian hasn't had him on recently is because of his "wet work" assignments across the globe. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not 😏
That trick with the safety's length and the extractor is absolutely ingenious, I had absolutely no idea.
I love it for my civilian market M70 ZPAP, it's silly to think it's not a standard thing in all modern AKs.
The reset-click on the trigger is surprisingly loud.
Same thought lol. Mic must be close
I thought that was odd.... but it seems not from what you guys are saying!
Thank goodness I wasn't the only one who noticed that. I honestly think they're fairly well made weapons and enjoyed this and I'm going to have to go out and find one of those and the Yugo's. But the first thing to replace will be that clicky trigger reset.
I'm not crazy! Ha!
@@pissingeverywhere not really. M70 trigger reset is about same loud as releasing m4 bolt by slapping bolt catch. Btw charging AK in small room is so loud your ears ring. No joke
I served in Iraq with the proprietor of Two Rivers Arms.
Great folks there.
Thank you for your service sir
What's your name and rank?
@@roskcity 🤷🏻♂️😂😂
Did you guys find mass destruction w. ??
@@smile6868 it's obvious Saddam had Gaz agent . And chemechal weapons . Just Google (halabja) you'll see what I mean . His air force bombed they Kurdish town with gas in 1988 and killed over 5.000 civilians at the end of Iraq Iran war !
Ian looks like a metal gear character design
"Be careful when you fight him, Snake! His knowledge far exceeds anything you have seen before. He will use your weapons against you. With a barrage of knowledge about your arms he will leave you stunned. There is a reason they call him the GUN JESUS!"
@@HappyBeezerStudios hes located in the H&K vault.
@@HappyBeezerStudios imagine him as a recruitable character though he'd probably be in charge of the base armory and give a weapon bonus effect to all combat personelle
@@justineallandevelos6491 he will provide diamond dogs with french surplus lol
No. He look like npc gun shop clerk.
Gun Jesus straight up looks a final boss from mgs
Lol
You can bait him out of hiding by dropping french made items.
@@redbasher636 The codenames in MGS3 of Ocelot and the woman who would be the mother of Solid and Liquid were Adam and Eva.
BROTHER!
Arsenal Prophet.
"You should modernize your equipment, Snake! Bolt-actions are already obsolete!"
You wouldnt believe how many of our grandpas and parents made serious money working for our (Yugoslav) military industry in Iraq.
The collapse of Yugoslavia was one of the saddest events in history
There were also many Polish workers building infrastructure and factories in Iraq and Syria some decades ago. Seems Iraq had some serious deficit of engineers, technicians and skilled labourers.
@@randomnobodovsky3692 they had lots of oil money and they were pumping it in their economy. many countries bring foreign workers in such cases
@@jonseilim4321 no it wasnt. it was bound to collapse when serbs wanted to control whole country and didnt let anybody else to say anything.
@@jebise1126 it was the other way arround: Serbs wanted to stay in Yugoslavia, we made each one of them, unlike those who served Germany in two world wars and never liked it.
In this video Ian is wearing the Särmä TST Field pants from Varusteleka in Finnish M04 desert camouflage, a Särmä TST L1 merino t-shirt, also from Varusteleka, a Syrian beret, an unidentified belt and probably some form of footwear. On his left arm is a patch from Silah Report.
Genuinely thank you, I was coveting his trousers and now I know where to look
Now, we can cop his look 👌 👌 👌 👌
You forgot to mention his underwear type?!?!
Umm underwear and socks please
Wait, Ian has feet?
I’m reminded of the vampire hunters from Lost Boys:
Edit: Frog Brothers. Thanks Ian Carpenter
LMAO!
The Frog Brothers!
Had not noticed, but now I can't unsee the Frog brothers. LOL
All respect to Miles and Ian; it’s just the liberal use of camo and berets. 😗
@@iancarpenter5155 dude I'm lmao 🤠 best comment yet.
I really like that safety feature.
Does make you wonder why it's not far more common. It is a really useful little feature.
Also let's you check the chamber is clear without unintentionally loading a round.
@@cgi2002 Probably because not being able to chamber a round with the safety on seems like an anti-safety feature. It's also a potential training liability.
@@alltat I dunno, seems the opposite of all of those to me. It's a problem that training itself would rapidly fix, and I don't know about you, but I don't want soldiers who can't atleast figure out this simple thing in any military.
What a fuck is so hard about taking your magazine off before operating gun? Its not safety feature, its unnecessary feature
@@neuzdost1939 nothing is, but this isn't a difficult feature to add (it basically requires next to no engineering and no extra parts). I'm not saying its vital but it is useful, and alot of guns (especially AK patterns) could have this feature without any major design changes.
Hmm. Just tried unloading the chamber while on safe with my 88' M70B1 and it infact works. Nice!!
Ian is left handed - shoots left handed - and wears his beret left handed!
That's also the French style, and Ian loves French militaria.
well spoted
@@Axemantitan Yup - do a search for photos of the French Foreign legion and they have the badge over the right eye (or even further right than that) and the beret slopes left.
I Hope he is not a commie, from All the left leaning 😄
Do not speak ill of Gun Jesus
Great to see Miles collaborating with Ian. Guns from Afghanistan and the middle east are super interesting. Hope to see more of this in the future
Miles pulled a fast one and lifted Ian's watch before filming.
Time to watch Bill and Ted's Baghdad Adventure! :)
Radical!
Dude!
انعل ابو امريكا وانعل ابو بوش الكلاب دمروا العراق . الان تفتخرون بهاذا وتحسبوه مغامرة
I like this guy, i'm gonna read his book. Have him on again if you can
His video presence has improved dramatically over the years. When he's speaking on a subject he's passionate about it really comes through.
I watch his channel
He’s also on TFB
Theres a video of him hiking up a hill in Afghanistan with a jezail talking about it, like a method actor lol
Brandon Herrera had him on as a guest as well.
And lo he doth part the sling whilst parlaying jest.
Huzzah
These don't look like China Lakes...
Right I hope it's still coming up this week.
It's coming Friday
@@wingracer1614 awesome thanks for the heads up
Lmao 😂
I haven't seen Miles in a couple years and now I know why. The lifestyle definitely changed how he looks but he's still the same pleasant man he's always been.
What sort of lifestyle are you referring to? Genuinely curious.
I love my Yugo AK's-I have three of them and heartily recommend them for their quality and reliability. And their teak wood looks great also!
4:12
د- دبابة = Tank
Pronounced: Dabbabah
ش- شخصي = Personnel
Pronounced: Shakh'si
10:15
It does probably refer to a year which is 1423 in Hijri calendar
1423 = 2002 - 2003
Thanks
It's kind of surprising how noisy the triggers are when released after each shot on these firearms.
Yeah the reset is very clicky
Wow, that a very impressively loud trigger reset!
Thanks for the valuable information guys. I’m from Saudi Arabia and I own a lot of Tabuk AK47. This the first time I know the reason behind the name as a vast majority of us thought it’s related to Tabuk city which is in the north of Saudi Arabia. So again thank you guys.
ممكن تشرحلي سبب التسميه بتبوك كونك من المملكه العربيه السعوديه
Brandon Herrera would like to know your location*
The Ak-50 shirt has a tracker on it and he is on his way
He’s been on Brandon’s channel a few times.
@@TBreezy17 Miles has indeed, he was on just recently. I've never seen him Collab with Ian before though, that would be sweet.
Love this collab, fascinating stuff! Thanks F.W. and Silah Report!
"In some cases looters got there before the US Military" At least that's the story that those assigned to secure and catalogue were told by the elements that got there before them.
"T" on Yugo grenade launcher sight is for "Trenutna" and marks HE type of mine, contact triggered, while "K" stands for "Kumulativna" and is meant for cumulative mine (or armor piercing one).
Smaller countries still make/made decent weapons, cool stuff!
Well, not anymore. The factories in Iraq have been destroyed or looted during or after Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Apparently the quality control on these was extremely varying. Kalashnikov group has a video specifically about Iraqi AKs, in which he lists some the more comical defects. The allegation appears to be that as soon as the Yugoslav team departed standards of production dropped off sharply, while the personnel involved in assembly were often barely trained.
Actually, after Iraq could no longer pay Zastava, they left. Iraq tried to keep making these themselves with poor results. Kalashnikov channel made a videobon Tabuks.
@@nolanolivier6791 don’t believe the Russians that guy who made that video never been there they have tabuks that served in 2 wars and still work just fine
@@lenardjacop9121 those are the exceptions, not the rule. Just ask any Iraqi veteran, former Jihadist and Kurd soldier and they will probably tell you they've used them just because they didn't have anything better laying around.
I honestly thought that "Tabuk" was the name for just the DMR version.
Me too, also thought the tabuk was a m76 clone in 7.62 rather than an elongated m70
Same here
Just come from Kalashnikov group video about the worst AK ever made...
Iraqi AK it did a "great" 3rd place there.
@@altergreenhorn perhaps they had a chinese copy, or parts sourced from china.. The Iraqi's actually spent a healthy amount of money on these weapons
BiL thought it was a peculiar Iraqi word for rifle or AK. GW V1.0.
Miles and Ian. My two favorite gun historians. Please do more collaboration!
Click it on saftey. Eject round. No new round comes in.
God I love that
So do I, gonna have to chase down a Yugo M70 now.
As an Iraqi, this feels nostalgic.
@@saeediraqi2816 بالظبط
@@saeediraqi2816 شلون متخلف؟ بله اكرمنا بعلمك
@@saeediraqi2816 ابن ام حازم المقدسه 🤣
@@saeediraqi2816 انبعصت من زايد هاه
Will he ever do a video on the ak 50 type one because it was forgotten by Brandon
This is the best AK-50 comment I have seen so far
Hahaha
That ak 50 shirt signifies that the ak daddy and gun jesus collab is coming
Brandon did say that we should be expecting a video with the cursed ak being fixed
That trigger clicks so loudly when it resets, I can only imagine how great it is.
"I like your beret. They're worn by Saddam Hussein, Frank Spencer... and the French"
Oooooh Betty!!
This other dude is mad chill too. He’s got a vibe for sure. Let’s get some more collabs
Check out their twitter acount. Called Silah report
#AKGNotificationSquad
Dat AK-50 shirt tho
Holding rare AKs while wearing an AK-50 shirt. If they crack open a white claw Brandon Herrera will magically be summoned.
According to the legend.
TRA did a Maadi build for me - fantastic attention to detail. It's cool to see their work featured here and some of the lineage of the Tabuk family discussed. One point - there are more than a few Tabuk parts kits which came back in early OIF, as well as (I'm sure) a few complete rifles. I couldn't point fingers at numbers but over the years since 2004 I've seen more than a few genuine Tabuk parts in the US as well as several entire parts kits, all of which fetched a premium at the time.
I love the AK-50 shirt I bet Brandon is fan-girling
I am Marwan, who mentioned my name Mr. Miles, my friend. I have the idea to update the RBD to M249 saw
Ah yes, this is exactly what I needed today....
...Gun Jesus throwing some lead down range
I think he has been your best host, you've ever had on FW. Very good with the flow, and being great supporting you as your giving the "history" so to speak.
I was this many years old when I learned about the Yugo/Tabuk safety.
Me: Can we have Dragunov and AK?
Mom: We have Dragunov and AK at home
Dragunov and AK at home:
Regarding the ammo, would it not stand to reason that if Iraq adopted the Yugo AK, they likely adopted the Yugo M67 ammo (brass cased) as well?
Just come from Kalashnikov group video about the worst AK ever made...
Iraqi AK did a "great" 3rd place there.
@@altergreenhorn gee, what came in 1st and 2nd?
@@altergreenhorn They did say in the "Worst Kalashnikov" episode that the nightmare started after they lost the Yugoslavian support.
Going to be interesting to see the two remaining episodes that is left.
I used to have some of that Yugo brass cased ammo. It came in 40 rounds packs already on stripper clips. Sealed bullets, sealed primers, annealed brass. Seemed to be pretty good stuff, but I can't even describe the smell of the burnt powder. It was not pleasant. I think I paid like $8-$10 per 40 rounds.
I may still have a few clips of it banging around somewhere. Haven't seen any in years so I think I saved what I had left.
@@oldscratch3535 I bought a couple cases of that stuff from Samco in Miami, the day after Obama was elected in 08...even drove there from WPB to pick it up...nice little 90 minute drive.. It IS CORROSIVE ...be careful.. ask me how I know...
I have never seen such an ambiguously aged person in my life.
Your guest has very nice voice and pleasant manner of speaking. He could be doing radio job (not necessarily the kind that calls artillery strikes).
14:50 - the same technique works with Polish kbk. wz.60 (karabinek-granatnik) aka kbk wz.60 AK-GN (Granat Nasadkowy).
Live round in chamber - set selector to safe, charge the charging handle - round will be extracted and ejected.
great info
Lynn Pilon Bobby St.Marie Springfield Massachusetts
Awesome video. You two work really well together.
Interesting point on the issues with Arisaka data (and other WWII technical data from Japan). Due to how complex the Japanese language is even if there are surviving technical documents they are difficult for people to find and make use of. This is because to properly read/understand/translate the documents requires someone who knows both Japanese and English fluently, and who understands the information enough to even read it. A single word (Kanji) can have multiple meanings depending on the context, and if one has never learned that Kanji in the specific context the technical document is using, the meaning is lost.
Much of the technical data we have on the Japanese "Zero" fighter comes from US testing of captured Zeros despite the original technical data for the zero being available.
I've been waiting for this for a long time. So much respect for both of these guys.
Y'all must be out near Apache Junction. I can hear the Apache flying by.
Thay or somewhere by Tucson lol i live in phx
@@lordperezident I was thinking about the Apache manufacturing plant in the east Valley.
T and K on the sights are Trenutna (momentary) and Kumulativna (cumulative). Two types of rifle grenades.
According to the North Korean defector, the North Korean Army also adopt this rifle to replace Mosin Nagant.
They used AKs, but they weren't M70s or Tabuks, first AKs they used were Type 58 milled guns.
Idk about that but i do know they ripped off the yugoslav m76 DMR
@@strahinjastevic7480 That was find out the rumor.
@Bhum Brahmavira Yes they did. But in the 80s they make their AK74 from Romanian spec.
The Korean People's Army does utilize the Zastava M76 which is supposedly made and produced locally as the Chogyok-Pochong (Jeogyeok-Bochong/저격 보총
).
I feel like this has been the best shooting audio thus far. The report seemed quieter, so the action/resonance of the gun and steel hits were audible. Pretty nice.
The ak-50 shirt really rounds the look off
No way, Miles is the best. His content is always so interesting, what an awesome collab
I love Miles, he's out traveling the world to bring us the most obscure firearms information, and a whole lot of funny stories about gun culture in the developing world.
The Tabuk is originally designed to use the Zrak ON-M99 optic. This is a clone of the M76 scope with a 7.62x39 BDC. Yugoslavia also made M76 optics with 7.62x39 BDC. They are labelled M70 7.62 on the elevation turret, just like the Zrak ON-M89 optic. I use one on my Tabuk clone.
Is Miles wearing two watches?
I believe he also wears them on his ankles so he can always check the time. Not sure if they all tell the same time though
One might be a fitbit type thing
The one on his right looks like a compass or something.
@@edday4093 one is a compass :)
Looks like Suunto M-9 wrist compass
Until now, I never know why the Dragonuv style buttstock had that distinctive cutout in it. I now see how it can be used for a hand to pull it against the shoulder... Very cool, clearly not just cosmetic or for weight reduction. Awesome video.
Yeah the rpk was one of the first that started using a "club foot" style buttstock for that purpose. Since then alot others use the same principal In a different style.
"I hate underfolders" I agree, but I do at some point want to acquire a yugo underfolder as the "bad guy gun" counterpart to the clone of my OIF M4.
I've been waiting for this since i saw the Silah Report Twitter post.
We need the ForgottenWeapons/InRange and Brandon Herrera Crossover to happen already!
Man, I like the repartee with these two guys! Let's see more of this cool fellow, Ian! We'll learn a lot, methinks!!
Wow Ian you pulled out a fit today, looking dope as hell! The other guy is cool too pretty knowledgeable
23:20 - Ian spends a minute and a half dropping hints that he wants Miles to bring him ammo.
First wtching Brandons tt( which was a long time service pistol for LEO in my native Croatia ex Yugoslavia) and next thing I watch is this 😊 AK 50 t- shirt is priceless...
Always a pleasure to see Miles, he’s incredibly informative and matches the intellectual tone of the channel to a tee
Gun Channel: *Gonna discuss guns from Iraq*
Miles: Did someone say crossover?
Been waiting for this, absolutely Fantastic video !!!
فخر العراق ،🖤🇮🇶
صحيح
اتوقع كانت اصناعه في عهد صدام
@@user-gm5qh5uz6h اكيد حجي صناعه بزمن صدام
هيئة التصنيع العسكري العراقي
@@user-gm5qh5uz6h صحيح اخي، صنعت في التصنيع العسكري منشآت القادسية.. هي كانت اتفاقية بين العراق ويوغوسلافيا ان ينقلون خط التجميع والخبرات للعراق
Miles and Silah are proactively keeping these guns and info from becoming forgotten
These are two of the cutest, deadliest nerds
Was wondering what happened to Miles. I thought he and the precision rifle guy were the best things on TFB. Nice to see he’s doing well and still feeding his interest in Central Asia.
The Iraqi AKs are always neat to see!
I wish Ian would make A real close-up , disassemble video of those two models, especially the one Ian is holding looks like my absolute dream rifle...
Doesn't Zastava import em?
Sweet! Another crossover episode!
My understanding was that the tabuk was supposed to be more of a DMR and it's not unlikely I'm wrong about that. What I was told years ago, offhand, is that a tabuk is a yugo pattern AK with an RPK heavy barrel.
فخر الصناعة العراقيه🇮🇶💪
Tabuk sniper: has a cheek rest and scope cover to combat glint
Gun Jesus: to comfortable, let's take it off
And wearing a Brandon Herrera, "The AK Guy" tee shirt which I believe is made by Matt Carricker's (of Demolition Ranch, Off the Ranch and Vet Ranch) screen printing company "Bunker Branding".
Love Miles Vinning! Bringing light to a not so well known part of gun history that's just as important as the well researched stuff!
I've always heard complaints about underfolder AKs being uncomfortable to shoot. I never had a problem with mine. But my wife didn't like it, so I ended up converting it to an AR-style buffer tube.
How much did that cost?
@@yassertabikh5362 I used the Definitive Arms conversion kit - that's running $70 these days. As I recall, I had an extra buffer tube and stock sitting around, but if you don't obviously whatever you get would add to the cost.
well they got out of their way to make most millitary issue ones underfolders so i really doubt they're as uncomfortable as people say
@@strahinjastevic7480 Probably people who've never shot one and are just repeating internet lore. "Forum X said they suck, so obviously they do". 🤷♂️
And for the record, my wife's problem was the length of pull, not anything to do with the underfolder stock itself.
Iraqi here.
Thanks for the review
صناعة منشاة القادسية العامة التابعة لتصنيع العسكري في اليوسفية قرب بغداد التي كانت متخصصة في صناعة الهاون 60 ملمتر وهاون 120 ملمتر ورشاشة تبوك . ومسدس طارق . شاهد عيان
Granade scope is not in English. Its Serbian.
T is for "trenutna mina" (anti infantry mine), K is for "Kumulativna mina" (for hiting bunkers, vehicles etc).
K is biger so flying distance of mine is shorter.
It looks almost similar to Yugoslav Zastava arms from that period.
two guys talk almost half an hour about a weapon that I could only say "yeah, that's a kalash" about
Glad to see Miles is alive and well haven't seen him much since he left TFB
If there was any clue on the TFB thumbnail that indicated that Miles was the presenter, I couldn't watch it.
@@babalugats3540 I used to troll the guy pretty bad when he was over there... Now I miss the guy there's nobody left over there
@@grimmgod4805 I have to admit that despite what I said, I did watch him just to see how cringy he could be, almost unwatchable. However after he was a regular there for a while, he did get better.
Hop is the best thing to happen to TFB in a long time. I'll take him over James. That is once I got over that he looked to me like he was a trans.