The Enigmatic Iraqi Tabuk AKs w/ Miles Vining

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    Today I am joined by Miles Vining from Silah Report to take a look at a selection of Tabuk pattern AKs. Tabuk was the name given to the whole family of domestically-produced Iraqi Kalashnikovs, which harbor a lot more mysteries than one might expect. The basic pattern was licensed from Yugoslavia, and Iraqi production was set up with Yugoslavian technical support. The rifles follow the basic pattern of the Yugoslav M70, but a wide variety of different versions were made between the early 1980s and 2003, with little explanation as to why. This includes standard and. "bulged" RPK-type front trunnions, fixed and underflowing stocks, some with and without rifle grenade gas cutoffs and sights, Yugoslav and Iraqi-made grips, and more. Unique to Iraq is the Tabuk "sniper" model, a 7.62x39mm rifle with a long barrel, distinctive cutout stock, and either PSO or Zrak scope (based on a pattern tested by Yugoslavia but never adopted).
    The Tabuk was never the main armament of the Iraqi military. It was only issued to small numbers of troops, often high profile units like the Republican Guard. The vast majority of Iraqi arms were AKs bought elsewhere, including Romanian, Polish, and Hungarian patterns. Total production of Tabuk rifles is unknown. The serial numbers consist of a 3-digit batch code and a 4-digit sequential serial number - which is easily mistaken for a 7-digit sequential number. With Iraqi production records lost or destroyed, the significance of the different batch codes is unknown, but they probably referred to specific combinations of features and intended recipients (both Iraqi military/security forces and foreign export customers).
    Many thanks to Two Rivers Arms for loaning use these three Tabuks for filming! They are definitely experts on the subject, and we appreciate their generosity. Further thanks to Miles for joining me on this video! If you are interested in modern small arms of the Middle East, North Africa, and Central Asia you should definitely check out the great work being done by Silah Report.
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  • @samgeorge4798
    @samgeorge4798 3 роки тому +2042

    You guys look like two mercenaries from a cheesy action movie

    • @PlymouthT20
      @PlymouthT20 3 роки тому +61

      Wild Ducks.

    • @markgrehan3726
      @markgrehan3726 3 роки тому +52

      I wonder if that explains the helicopter in the background. :)

    • @Pete-z6e
      @Pete-z6e 3 роки тому +11

      ,So true,I cracked up!

    • @rainred2540
      @rainred2540 3 роки тому +91

      Two mercenaries discussing their firearms while they wait for the protagonist of the film to show up and blast them away.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 3 роки тому +26

      Actually they were advisors for the movie "Lord of War".

  • @bassamdawood9700
    @bassamdawood9700 3 роки тому +428

    My dad served in the Iraq-Iran war . Used a Chinese AK, and at some point, he brought it back and kept it for decades as a home defense rifle. He has never held or seen a Tabuk before. This goes to support the point you guys made about the rifle not being a standard issue.

    • @guisseppistrombopolis9082
      @guisseppistrombopolis9082 3 роки тому +40

      Iv studied every modern war, and that one is the only war that makes my skin crawl, god bless

    • @TheDiameter
      @TheDiameter 3 роки тому +99

      @@guisseppistrombopolis9082 then your study was poor.

    • @husseinoskovjino9398
      @husseinoskovjino9398 3 роки тому +16

      Mine too but my dad had a tariq and a tabuk
      It became standardized in 1990

    • @AlexKS1992
      @AlexKS1992 3 роки тому +40

      Quite a nasty war to read about. To those who don’t know what it was like think WW1 with trenches and poison gas but with modern technology.

    • @-alisoon
      @-alisoon 3 роки тому +10

      Tell your father, does he remember Juba?🇮🇶

  • @KaDaJxClonE
    @KaDaJxClonE 3 роки тому +524

    Miles is the kind of guy who vacations in the Arizona desert in a black shirt to escape the heat of his everyday job.

    • @lordperezident
      @lordperezident 3 роки тому +18

      Good thing Arizona weather is amazing during this time of year lol high of 65-70s!

    • @lordperezident
      @lordperezident 3 роки тому +1

      @Sigkim what part of Arizona are you in? @Sigkim

  • @ripvanwinkle268
    @ripvanwinkle268 3 роки тому +274

    4:13
    د = Dal
    It stand for "Dabbabah" which is "Tank"
    ش= Sheen
    It stands for "Shakhs" which is "Personnel"

    • @ChrissieBear
      @ChrissieBear 3 роки тому +6

      Dabbabah sounds like a silly word, heh.

    • @Lord_Of_Beans
      @Lord_Of_Beans 3 роки тому +42

      @@ChrissieBear many arabic words sound silly when you type them in english, father is Ab in arabic

    • @themanfromtheeast2048
      @themanfromtheeast2048 3 роки тому +8

      @@Timsturbs Hemar pronounced like "He - Mar"

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn 3 роки тому +9

      Just come from Kalashnikov group video about the worst AK ever made...
      Iraqi AK it did a "great" 3rd place there.

    • @ripvanwinkle268
      @ripvanwinkle268 3 роки тому +3

      @@altergreenhorn The first place would probably be the one Ian made a video on lmaao

  • @Hansspeilm
    @Hansspeilm 3 роки тому +1311

    Most people match their hats with their shoes, Gun Jesus matches his hats with his guns.👌

    • @jeffreycollier8798
      @jeffreycollier8798 3 роки тому +19

      Perfect description. I'll never be able to unsee that.
      😆

    • @filipeamaral216
      @filipeamaral216 3 роки тому +18

      A man of culture.

    • @ColburnFreml
      @ColburnFreml 3 роки тому +13

      Wait, I'm supposed to match my hat to my shoes? Says who?

    • @mandakhbaatar
      @mandakhbaatar 3 роки тому +3

      what gun?

    • @David0lyle
      @David0lyle 3 роки тому +3

      Well he’s entitled to accessorize. And since he’s great at it.

  • @arkadeepkundu4729
    @arkadeepkundu4729 3 роки тому +346

    12:25 "Export to Elbonia"
    _Almost missed that, Ian's really taken to this Elbonia meme rather seriously hasn't he._

    • @Pcm979
      @Pcm979 3 роки тому +58

      You can recognise the Elbonian exports from the special-order ventilated metal handguards and the characteristic 'Drunken Yak' acceptance marks.

    • @subixbarbarasson1990
      @subixbarbarasson1990 3 роки тому +9

      I noticed that too. Wtf is Elbonia? All i kan find is some komik book shit. Is it all an inside joke?

    • @catfish552
      @catfish552 3 роки тому +50

      @@subixbarbarasson1990 Elbonia is an often overlooked but important part of small arms history. They did things there that no one else would even think to try.

    • @jongreenshields2815
      @jongreenshields2815 3 роки тому +10

      @@catfish552 sometimes to our great pleasure at the wacky creations that occur as a result

    • @marcusborderlands6177
      @marcusborderlands6177 3 роки тому +16

      @@subixbarbarasson1990 go look for the q&a that Ian did about arming elbonia and the dp12, it should explain everything

  • @lewislarson5019
    @lewislarson5019 3 роки тому +211

    Has ak-50 shirt “ah I see your a man of culture as well”

  • @EnvyCT9A
    @EnvyCT9A 3 роки тому +243

    Miles needs to be a regular, he's fantastic

    • @dannyray3853
      @dannyray3853 3 роки тому +3

      Hes a regular A hole over at TFB. Ugh I cant stand the guy.

    • @skepticalbadger
      @skepticalbadger 3 роки тому +19

      @@dannyray3853 He's one of the nicest guys you could hope to meet, is a prior service Marine, and knows his guns.

    • @lordperezident
      @lordperezident 3 роки тому +7

      @@dannyray3853 why can't you stand him? What does he do that make him hard to watch?

    • @spencermarenger4028
      @spencermarenger4028 3 роки тому +1

      @@lordperezident I know some of his early vid with TFB TV were harder to watch to some since he had wad of chewing tobacco in his mouth making his oral commentary less effective, he has really come around since his debut

    • @jmmartin7766
      @jmmartin7766 Рік тому

      I think the reason Ian hasn't had him on recently is because of his "wet work" assignments across the globe. I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I'm not 😏

  • @HussarPlays
    @HussarPlays 3 роки тому +264

    I’m reminded of the vampire hunters from Lost Boys:
    Edit: Frog Brothers. Thanks Ian Carpenter

    • @Tomi-oe5mz
      @Tomi-oe5mz 3 роки тому +4

      LMAO!

    • @iancarpenter5155
      @iancarpenter5155 3 роки тому +21

      The Frog Brothers!

    • @UTubeHandlesSuck
      @UTubeHandlesSuck 3 роки тому +9

      Had not noticed, but now I can't unsee the Frog brothers. LOL

    • @HussarPlays
      @HussarPlays 3 роки тому +6

      All respect to Miles and Ian; it’s just the liberal use of camo and berets. 😗

    • @ricardocarmona5210
      @ricardocarmona5210 3 роки тому +3

      @@iancarpenter5155 dude I'm lmao 🤠 best comment yet.

  • @joshuaradick5679
    @joshuaradick5679 3 роки тому +2121

    This video has a message for Brandon to get on with the AK-50

    • @hailtothe_rooster1572
      @hailtothe_rooster1572 3 роки тому +80

      Or any AK in general

    • @alligatormonday6365
      @alligatormonday6365 3 роки тому +116

      Literally any AK, for a firearm business to function they need to build and sell firearms.
      They seem to not be doing that at all.

    • @lælkjhgfdszxdfghjklæ
      @lælkjhgfdszxdfghjklæ 3 роки тому +17

      He just made an update video wher he tells he soon got somthing ak50ish together

    • @spacecowboy3719
      @spacecowboy3719 3 роки тому +165

      @@alligatormonday6365 unless the business is a cover for him to own full autos

    • @Tr4wnet
      @Tr4wnet 3 роки тому +50

      @@spacecowboy3719 ^

  • @cepheik2605
    @cepheik2605 3 роки тому +105

    That trick with the safety's length and the extractor is absolutely ingenious, I had absolutely no idea.

    • @CREEPINGIRON
      @CREEPINGIRON 2 роки тому +2

      I love it for my civilian market M70 ZPAP, it's silly to think it's not a standard thing in all modern AKs.

  • @darkodjogo96
    @darkodjogo96 3 роки тому +329

    You wouldnt believe how many of our grandpas and parents made serious money working for our (Yugoslav) military industry in Iraq.

    • @jonseilim4321
      @jonseilim4321 3 роки тому +63

      The collapse of Yugoslavia was one of the saddest events in history

    • @randomnobodovsky3692
      @randomnobodovsky3692 3 роки тому +32

      There were also many Polish workers building infrastructure and factories in Iraq and Syria some decades ago. Seems Iraq had some serious deficit of engineers, technicians and skilled labourers.

    • @jebise1126
      @jebise1126 3 роки тому +30

      @@randomnobodovsky3692 they had lots of oil money and they were pumping it in their economy. many countries bring foreign workers in such cases

    • @jebise1126
      @jebise1126 3 роки тому +21

      @@jonseilim4321 no it wasnt. it was bound to collapse when serbs wanted to control whole country and didnt let anybody else to say anything.

    • @darkodjogo96
      @darkodjogo96 3 роки тому +33

      @@jebise1126 it was the other way arround: Serbs wanted to stay in Yugoslavia, we made each one of them, unlike those who served Germany in two world wars and never liked it.

  • @rodrigodepierola
    @rodrigodepierola 3 роки тому +227

    The reset-click on the trigger is surprisingly loud.

    • @pissingeverywhere
      @pissingeverywhere 3 роки тому +6

      Same thought lol. Mic must be close

    • @trooperdgb9722
      @trooperdgb9722 3 роки тому +6

      I thought that was odd.... but it seems not from what you guys are saying!

    • @aricp9173
      @aricp9173 3 роки тому +7

      Thank goodness I wasn't the only one who noticed that. I honestly think they're fairly well made weapons and enjoyed this and I'm going to have to go out and find one of those and the Yugo's. But the first thing to replace will be that clicky trigger reset.

    • @bakomusha
      @bakomusha 3 роки тому +2

      I'm not crazy! Ha!

    • @neuzdost1939
      @neuzdost1939 3 роки тому +2

      @@pissingeverywhere not really. M70 trigger reset is about same loud as releasing m4 bolt by slapping bolt catch. Btw charging AK in small room is so loud your ears ring. No joke

  • @avanticurecanti9998
    @avanticurecanti9998 3 роки тому +465

    Someone send this man a Fedayeen helmet.

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 3 роки тому +52

      *deep Darth Vader breath*

    • @iolipuara3979
      @iolipuara3979 3 роки тому +41

      Kind of hilarious that Saddam made those helmets b/c his son loved star wars so much.

    • @J-BiRTH
      @J-BiRTH 3 роки тому +66

      @@iolipuara3979 Strange to imagine some Star Wars loving kid grew up to become the absolute monster that was Uday Hussein.

    • @azhiidris1599
      @azhiidris1599 3 роки тому +27

      @@J-BiRTH he was indeed a monster . Bloodthirsty psychopath . I have no words to describe him

    • @russetwolf13
      @russetwolf13 3 роки тому +16

      @@J-BiRTH When you think Darth Vader is the coolest but don't realize that he's still a bad guy.

  • @givennamesurname2565
    @givennamesurname2565 3 роки тому +50

    In this video Ian is wearing the Särmä TST Field pants from Varusteleka in Finnish M04 desert camouflage, a Särmä TST L1 merino t-shirt, also from Varusteleka, a Syrian beret, an unidentified belt and probably some form of footwear. On his left arm is a patch from Silah Report.

    • @fuzzlemacfuzz
      @fuzzlemacfuzz 3 роки тому +7

      Genuinely thank you, I was coveting his trousers and now I know where to look

    • @Tremezy
      @Tremezy 3 роки тому +3

      Now, we can cop his look 👌 👌 👌 👌

    • @gjgaming2133
      @gjgaming2133 3 роки тому +5

      You forgot to mention his underwear type?!?!

    • @jordanwiser9011
      @jordanwiser9011 3 роки тому +1

      Umm underwear and socks please

    • @bosef1
      @bosef1 3 роки тому +1

      Wait, Ian has feet?

  • @keganwallace8753
    @keganwallace8753 3 роки тому +25

    Hmm. Just tried unloading the chamber while on safe with my 88' M70B1 and it infact works. Nice!!

  • @thehummusgavemeaids1596
    @thehummusgavemeaids1596 3 роки тому +238

    I like this guy, i'm gonna read his book. Have him on again if you can

    • @ben501st
      @ben501st 3 роки тому +15

      His video presence has improved dramatically over the years. When he's speaking on a subject he's passionate about it really comes through.

    • @Dirtzoo
      @Dirtzoo 3 роки тому

      I watch his channel

    • @ryanpeck3377
      @ryanpeck3377 3 роки тому +1

      He’s also on TFB

    • @muammarbinsharif6425
      @muammarbinsharif6425 3 роки тому +1

      Theres a video of him hiking up a hill in Afghanistan with a jezail talking about it, like a method actor lol

    • @Tunkkis
      @Tunkkis 3 роки тому

      Brandon Herrera had him on as a guest as well.

  • @irongunner1221
    @irongunner1221 3 роки тому +278

    I served in Iraq with the proprietor of Two Rivers Arms.
    Great folks there.

    • @azhiidris1599
      @azhiidris1599 3 роки тому +10

      Thank you for your service sir

    • @ahmedqasim7761
      @ahmedqasim7761 3 роки тому +3

      What's your name and rank?

    • @azhiidris1599
      @azhiidris1599 3 роки тому +1

      @@roskcity 🤷🏻‍♂️😂😂

    • @smile6868
      @smile6868 3 роки тому +7

      Did you guys find mass destruction w. ??

    • @azhiidris1599
      @azhiidris1599 3 роки тому

      @@smile6868 it's obvious Saddam had Gaz agent . And chemechal weapons . Just Google (halabja) you'll see what I mean . His air force bombed they Kurdish town with gas in 1988 and killed over 5.000 civilians at the end of Iraq Iran war !

  • @redthered585
    @redthered585 3 роки тому +338

    Gun Jesus straight up looks a final boss from mgs

    • @frankmurphy7234
      @frankmurphy7234 3 роки тому +4

      Lol

    • @gabreshaa8234
      @gabreshaa8234 3 роки тому +72

      You can bait him out of hiding by dropping french made items.

    • @brandonhatcher5158
      @brandonhatcher5158 3 роки тому +12

      @@redbasher636 The codenames in MGS3 of Ocelot and the woman who would be the mother of Solid and Liquid were Adam and Eva.

    • @quirble
      @quirble 3 роки тому +6

      BROTHER!

    • @irpsicologiayeducaciongrup8251
      @irpsicologiayeducaciongrup8251 3 роки тому +6

      Arsenal Prophet.
      "You should modernize your equipment, Snake! Bolt-actions are already obsolete!"

  • @rodgerjohnson3375
    @rodgerjohnson3375 3 роки тому +81

    I really like that safety feature.

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 3 роки тому +14

      Does make you wonder why it's not far more common. It is a really useful little feature.
      Also let's you check the chamber is clear without unintentionally loading a round.

    • @alltat
      @alltat 3 роки тому +1

      @@cgi2002 Probably because not being able to chamber a round with the safety on seems like an anti-safety feature. It's also a potential training liability.

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 3 роки тому +4

      @@alltat I dunno, seems the opposite of all of those to me. It's a problem that training itself would rapidly fix, and I don't know about you, but I don't want soldiers who can't atleast figure out this simple thing in any military.

    • @neuzdost1939
      @neuzdost1939 3 роки тому

      What a fuck is so hard about taking your magazine off before operating gun? Its not safety feature, its unnecessary feature

    • @cgi2002
      @cgi2002 3 роки тому +4

      @@neuzdost1939 nothing is, but this isn't a difficult feature to add (it basically requires next to no engineering and no extra parts). I'm not saying its vital but it is useful, and alot of guns (especially AK patterns) could have this feature without any major design changes.

  • @DavidHarris-qn7em
    @DavidHarris-qn7em 3 роки тому +174

    And lo he doth part the sling whilst parlaying jest.

  • @JunkyardBashSteve
    @JunkyardBashSteve 3 роки тому +46

    I haven't seen Miles in a couple years and now I know why. The lifestyle definitely changed how he looks but he's still the same pleasant man he's always been.

    • @joshua7233
      @joshua7233 6 місяців тому

      What sort of lifestyle are you referring to? Genuinely curious.

    • @donovanchilton5817
      @donovanchilton5817 Місяць тому

      @@joshua7233Constant travel and living in war zones for most of his adult life. Dude probably doesn’t know how to live any other way at this point.

  • @bskorupk
    @bskorupk 3 роки тому +82

    Time to watch Bill and Ted's Baghdad Adventure! :)

    • @Tremezy
      @Tremezy 3 роки тому +5

      Radical!

    • @anonymousbosch9265
      @anonymousbosch9265 3 роки тому +1

      Dude!

    • @g.h5430
      @g.h5430 3 роки тому

      انعل ابو امريكا وانعل ابو بوش الكلاب دمروا العراق . الان تفتخرون بهاذا وتحسبوه مغامرة

  • @chadkhl1690
    @chadkhl1690 3 роки тому +109

    Ian looks like a metal gear character design

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 роки тому +9

      "Be careful when you fight him, Snake! His knowledge far exceeds anything you have seen before. He will use your weapons against you. With a barrage of knowledge about your arms he will leave you stunned. There is a reason they call him the GUN JESUS!"

    • @historynerd2373
      @historynerd2373 3 роки тому +2

      @@HappyBeezerStudios hes located in the H&K vault.

    • @justineallandevelos6491
      @justineallandevelos6491 3 роки тому +3

      @@HappyBeezerStudios imagine him as a recruitable character though he'd probably be in charge of the base armory and give a weapon bonus effect to all combat personelle

    • @jonathanjosept4316
      @jonathanjosept4316 3 роки тому +3

      @@justineallandevelos6491 he will provide diamond dogs with french surplus lol

    • @thyssenheinel6507
      @thyssenheinel6507 3 роки тому

      No. He look like npc gun shop clerk.

  • @TimCools_WithALongO
    @TimCools_WithALongO 3 роки тому +76

    Miles pulled a fast one and lifted Ian's watch before filming.

  • @ibannymous
    @ibannymous 3 роки тому +14

    I love my Yugo AK's-I have three of them and heartily recommend them for their quality and reliability. And their teak wood looks great also!

  • @IceWolfLoki
    @IceWolfLoki 3 роки тому +49

    "In some cases looters got there before the US Military" At least that's the story that those assigned to secure and catalogue were told by the elements that got there before them.

  • @joeymobb8438
    @joeymobb8438 3 роки тому +265

    These don't look like China Lakes...

  • @alexwilson4792
    @alexwilson4792 3 роки тому +9

    Great to see Miles collaborating with Ian. Guns from Afghanistan and the middle east are super interesting. Hope to see more of this in the future

  • @martingardener90
    @martingardener90 3 роки тому +213

    Ian is left handed - shoots left handed - and wears his beret left handed!

    • @Axemantitan
      @Axemantitan 3 роки тому +33

      That's also the French style, and Ian loves French militaria.

    • @keithwalker3460
      @keithwalker3460 3 роки тому +5

      well spoted

    • @richardmeyer418
      @richardmeyer418 3 роки тому +2

      @@Axemantitan Yup - do a search for photos of the French Foreign legion and they have the badge over the right eye (or even further right than that) and the beret slopes left.

    • @ulriklange3924
      @ulriklange3924 3 роки тому +4

      I Hope he is not a commie, from All the left leaning 😄

    • @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming
      @ThatWolfFromHyruleGaming 3 роки тому +1

      Do not speak ill of Gun Jesus

  • @richardpowell4281
    @richardpowell4281 3 роки тому +291

    Brandon Herrera would like to know your location*

    • @Wesrl
      @Wesrl 3 роки тому +36

      The Ak-50 shirt has a tracker on it and he is on his way

    • @TBreezy17
      @TBreezy17 3 роки тому +6

      He’s been on Brandon’s channel a few times.

    • @richardpowell4281
      @richardpowell4281 3 роки тому +3

      @@TBreezy17 Miles has indeed, he was on just recently. I've never seen him Collab with Ian before though, that would be sweet.

  • @ir0nc0wb0y7
    @ir0nc0wb0y7 3 роки тому +50

    I love the AK-50 shirt I bet Brandon is fan-girling

  • @BigMarquise
    @BigMarquise 3 роки тому +60

    Smaller countries still make/made decent weapons, cool stuff!

    • @AldanFerrox
      @AldanFerrox 3 роки тому +27

      Well, not anymore. The factories in Iraq have been destroyed or looted during or after Operation Iraqi Freedom.

    • @nolanolivier6791
      @nolanolivier6791 3 роки тому +29

      Apparently the quality control on these was extremely varying. Kalashnikov group has a video specifically about Iraqi AKs, in which he lists some the more comical defects. The allegation appears to be that as soon as the Yugoslav team departed standards of production dropped off sharply, while the personnel involved in assembly were often barely trained.

    • @grugg3108
      @grugg3108 3 роки тому +10

      Actually, after Iraq could no longer pay Zastava, they left. Iraq tried to keep making these themselves with poor results. Kalashnikov channel made a videobon Tabuks.

    • @lenardjacop9121
      @lenardjacop9121 3 роки тому +6

      @@nolanolivier6791 don’t believe the Russians that guy who made that video never been there they have tabuks that served in 2 wars and still work just fine

    • @bluecaptainIT
      @bluecaptainIT 3 роки тому +12

      @@lenardjacop9121 those are the exceptions, not the rule. Just ask any Iraqi veteran, former Jihadist and Kurd soldier and they will probably tell you they've used them just because they didn't have anything better laying around.

  • @dmk0210
    @dmk0210 3 роки тому +5

    Miles and Ian. My two favorite gun historians. Please do more collaboration!

  • @mohammadal-tamimi6287
    @mohammadal-tamimi6287 3 роки тому +7

    4:12
    د- دبابة = Tank
    Pronounced: Dabbabah
    ش- شخصي = Personnel
    Pronounced: Shakh'si
    10:15
    It does probably refer to a year which is 1423 in Hijri calendar
    1423 = 2002 - 2003

  • @dar3ome
    @dar3ome 3 роки тому +8

    Thanks for the valuable information guys. I’m from Saudi Arabia and I own a lot of Tabuk AK47. This the first time I know the reason behind the name as a vast majority of us thought it’s related to Tabuk city which is in the north of Saudi Arabia. So again thank you guys.

    • @moatmoat
      @moatmoat Рік тому

      ممكن تشرحلي سبب التسميه بتبوك كونك من المملكه العربيه السعوديه

  • @maslegnac1920
    @maslegnac1920 3 роки тому +4

    "T" on Yugo grenade launcher sight is for "Trenutna" and marks HE type of mine, contact triggered, while "K" stands for "Kumulativna" and is meant for cumulative mine (or armor piercing one).

  • @gabeeg
    @gabeeg 3 роки тому +1

    Love this collab, fascinating stuff! Thanks F.W. and Silah Report!

  • @randomnobodovsky3692
    @randomnobodovsky3692 3 роки тому +5

    Your guest has very nice voice and pleasant manner of speaking. He could be doing radio job (not necessarily the kind that calls artillery strikes).

  • @gunsnchoses8309
    @gunsnchoses8309 3 роки тому +1

    TRA did a Maadi build for me - fantastic attention to detail. It's cool to see their work featured here and some of the lineage of the Tabuk family discussed. One point - there are more than a few Tabuk parts kits which came back in early OIF, as well as (I'm sure) a few complete rifles. I couldn't point fingers at numbers but over the years since 2004 I've seen more than a few genuine Tabuk parts in the US as well as several entire parts kits, all of which fetched a premium at the time.

  • @anthonyzbikowski529
    @anthonyzbikowski529 3 роки тому +32

    I was this many years old when I learned about the Yugo/Tabuk safety.

  • @aj1986917
    @aj1986917 3 роки тому +86

    #AKGNotificationSquad
    Dat AK-50 shirt tho

    • @richardpowell4281
      @richardpowell4281 3 роки тому +14

      Holding rare AKs while wearing an AK-50 shirt. If they crack open a white claw Brandon Herrera will magically be summoned.

    • @theemptyqueuenull9135
      @theemptyqueuenull9135 3 роки тому

      According to the legend.

  • @chunkysoup4868
    @chunkysoup4868 3 роки тому +83

    Will he ever do a video on the ak 50 type one because it was forgotten by Brandon

  • @bensigl3766
    @bensigl3766 3 роки тому +71

    I honestly thought that "Tabuk" was the name for just the DMR version.

    • @strahinjastevic7480
      @strahinjastevic7480 3 роки тому +8

      Me too, also thought the tabuk was a m76 clone in 7.62 rather than an elongated m70

    • @ji3194
      @ji3194 3 роки тому +1

      Same here

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn 3 роки тому

      Just come from Kalashnikov group video about the worst AK ever made...
      Iraqi AK it did a "great" 3rd place there.

    • @philippealexandra468
      @philippealexandra468 3 роки тому

      @@altergreenhorn perhaps they had a chinese copy, or parts sourced from china.. The Iraqi's actually spent a healthy amount of money on these weapons

    • @keepyourbilsteins
      @keepyourbilsteins 3 роки тому

      BiL thought it was a peculiar Iraqi word for rifle or AK. GW V1.0.

  • @oceanman3804
    @oceanman3804 3 роки тому +32

    Ah yes, this is exactly what I needed today....
    ...Gun Jesus throwing some lead down range

  • @comradeurod9805
    @comradeurod9805 3 роки тому +16

    The ak-50 shirt really rounds the look off

  • @loneghostone6883
    @loneghostone6883 3 роки тому +3

    Interesting point on the issues with Arisaka data (and other WWII technical data from Japan). Due to how complex the Japanese language is even if there are surviving technical documents they are difficult for people to find and make use of. This is because to properly read/understand/translate the documents requires someone who knows both Japanese and English fluently, and who understands the information enough to even read it. A single word (Kanji) can have multiple meanings depending on the context, and if one has never learned that Kanji in the specific context the technical document is using, the meaning is lost.
    Much of the technical data we have on the Japanese "Zero" fighter comes from US testing of captured Zeros despite the original technical data for the zero being available.

  • @hawkticus_history_corner
    @hawkticus_history_corner 3 роки тому +13

    Click it on saftey. Eject round. No new round comes in.
    God I love that

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому

      So do I, gonna have to chase down a Yugo M70 now.

  • @amerbaron4318
    @amerbaron4318 3 роки тому +44

    فخر العراق ،🖤🇮🇶

    • @Mohammed_Amer..2003.
      @Mohammed_Amer..2003. 3 роки тому +5

      صحيح

    • @user-gm5qh5uz6h
      @user-gm5qh5uz6h 3 роки тому +4

      اتوقع كانت اصناعه في عهد صدام

    • @dr_hatem8615
      @dr_hatem8615 3 роки тому +2

      @@user-gm5qh5uz6h اكيد حجي صناعه بزمن صدام

    • @anmarams
      @anmarams 3 роки тому +3

      هيئة التصنيع العسكري العراقي

    • @dripstar6183
      @dripstar6183 3 роки тому +2

      @@user-gm5qh5uz6h صحيح اخي، صنعت في التصنيع العسكري منشآت القادسية.. هي كانت اتفاقية بين العراق ويوغوسلافيا ان ينقلون خط التجميع والخبرات للعراق

  • @maverickpaladin4155
    @maverickpaladin4155 3 роки тому +41

    Regarding the ammo, would it not stand to reason that if Iraq adopted the Yugo AK, they likely adopted the Yugo M67 ammo (brass cased) as well?

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn 3 роки тому +3

      Just come from Kalashnikov group video about the worst AK ever made...
      Iraqi AK did a "great" 3rd place there.

    • @maverickpaladin4155
      @maverickpaladin4155 3 роки тому

      @@altergreenhorn gee, what came in 1st and 2nd?

    • @jonnybd7301
      @jonnybd7301 3 роки тому +4

      ​@@altergreenhorn They did say in the "Worst Kalashnikov" episode that the nightmare started after they lost the Yugoslavian support.
      Going to be interesting to see the two remaining episodes that is left.

    • @oldscratch3535
      @oldscratch3535 3 роки тому +4

      I used to have some of that Yugo brass cased ammo. It came in 40 rounds packs already on stripper clips. Sealed bullets, sealed primers, annealed brass. Seemed to be pretty good stuff, but I can't even describe the smell of the burnt powder. It was not pleasant. I think I paid like $8-$10 per 40 rounds.
      I may still have a few clips of it banging around somewhere. Haven't seen any in years so I think I saved what I had left.

    • @cbroz7492
      @cbroz7492 3 роки тому +3

      @@oldscratch3535 I bought a couple cases of that stuff from Samco in Miami, the day after Obama was elected in 08...even drove there from WPB to pick it up...nice little 90 minute drive.. It IS CORROSIVE ...be careful.. ask me how I know...

  • @jeffreyallen3461
    @jeffreyallen3461 3 роки тому +20

    It's kind of surprising how noisy the triggers are when released after each shot on these firearms.

    • @Deadtileyedie
      @Deadtileyedie 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah the reset is very clicky

    • @ScottKenny1978
      @ScottKenny1978 3 роки тому +2

      Wow, that a very impressively loud trigger reset!

  • @edwardcarrington3531
    @edwardcarrington3531 3 роки тому +2

    This other dude is mad chill too. He’s got a vibe for sure. Let’s get some more collabs

    • @yassertabikh5362
      @yassertabikh5362 3 роки тому

      Check out their twitter acount. Called Silah report

  • @YousifYuri
    @YousifYuri 3 роки тому +32

    As an Iraqi, this feels nostalgic.

  • @kobeme.
    @kobeme. 3 роки тому +53

    Ian has a very epic outfit today.

    • @creepyendy
      @creepyendy 3 роки тому +2

      yeah we germans really nailed our dessert camo

    • @hjorturerlend
      @hjorturerlend 3 роки тому +5

      @@creepyendy That's Finnish camo. From Varusteleka.

    • @maxmanninen
      @maxmanninen 3 роки тому +2

      @@creepyendy Finnish M05***

    • @TheSuspectOnFoot
      @TheSuspectOnFoot 3 роки тому +1

      @@maxmanninen *M04 since it's the desert variant

    • @sagqe
      @sagqe 3 роки тому

      @@creepyendy Except that's Finnish camo.

  • @r3al_master386
    @r3al_master386 3 роки тому +32

    Me: Can we have Dragunov and AK?
    Mom: We have Dragunov and AK at home
    Dragunov and AK at home:

  • @dusted25
    @dusted25 3 роки тому

    I feel like this has been the best shooting audio thus far. The report seemed quieter, so the action/resonance of the gun and steel hits were audible. Pretty nice.

  • @jamesluke7377
    @jamesluke7377 3 роки тому +3

    And wearing a Brandon Herrera, "The AK Guy" tee shirt which I believe is made by Matt Carricker's (of Demolition Ranch, Off the Ranch and Vet Ranch) screen printing company "Bunker Branding".

  • @tofan2622
    @tofan2622 3 роки тому

    I think he has been your best host, you've ever had on FW. Very good with the flow, and being great supporting you as your giving the "history" so to speak.

  • @exyhing
    @exyhing 3 роки тому +3

    First wtching Brandons tt( which was a long time service pistol for LEO in my native Croatia ex Yugoslavia) and next thing I watch is this 😊 AK 50 t- shirt is priceless...

  • @nauseaah
    @nauseaah 3 роки тому +1

    That trigger clicks so loudly when it resets, I can only imagine how great it is.

  • @hallupnorth1082
    @hallupnorth1082 3 роки тому +3

    Wow Ian you pulled out a fit today, looking dope as hell! The other guy is cool too pretty knowledgeable

  • @ballswortheloads8745
    @ballswortheloads8745 3 роки тому +2

    The Tabuk is originally designed to use the Zrak ON-M99 optic. This is a clone of the M76 scope with a 7.62x39 BDC. Yugoslavia also made M76 optics with 7.62x39 BDC. They are labelled M70 7.62 on the elevation turret, just like the Zrak ON-M89 optic. I use one on my Tabuk clone.

  • @Minutes-Mils
    @Minutes-Mils 3 роки тому +33

    That ak 50 shirt signifies that the ak daddy and gun jesus collab is coming

    • @Sgt_Paco
      @Sgt_Paco 3 роки тому +5

      Brandon did say that we should be expecting a video with the cursed ak being fixed

  • @BaronVonHardcharger
    @BaronVonHardcharger 3 роки тому +2

    Man, I like the repartee with these two guys! Let's see more of this cool fellow, Ian! We'll learn a lot, methinks!!

  • @j.murphy4884
    @j.murphy4884 3 роки тому +19

    "I like your beret. They're worn by Saddam Hussein, Frank Spencer... and the French"

  • @christopher5723
    @christopher5723 3 роки тому +4

    "I hate underfolders" I agree, but I do at some point want to acquire a yugo underfolder as the "bad guy gun" counterpart to the clone of my OIF M4.

  • @jimservu
    @jimservu 3 роки тому +6

    We need the ForgottenWeapons/InRange and Brandon Herrera Crossover to happen already!

  • @VICTORYOVERNEPTUNE
    @VICTORYOVERNEPTUNE 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome video. You two work really well together.

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear 3 роки тому +20

    great info

  • @jm9371
    @jm9371 3 роки тому +2

    Until now, I never know why the Dragonuv style buttstock had that distinctive cutout in it. I now see how it can be used for a hand to pull it against the shoulder... Very cool, clearly not just cosmetic or for weight reduction. Awesome video.

    • @Deadtileyedie
      @Deadtileyedie 3 роки тому

      Yeah the rpk was one of the first that started using a "club foot" style buttstock for that purpose. Since then alot others use the same principal In a different style.

  • @rokball4892
    @rokball4892 3 роки тому +44

    According to the North Korean defector, the North Korean Army also adopt this rifle to replace Mosin Nagant.

    • @grugg3108
      @grugg3108 3 роки тому +3

      They used AKs, but they weren't M70s or Tabuks, first AKs they used were Type 58 milled guns.

    • @strahinjastevic7480
      @strahinjastevic7480 3 роки тому +1

      Idk about that but i do know they ripped off the yugoslav m76 DMR

    • @rokball4892
      @rokball4892 3 роки тому +1

      @@strahinjastevic7480 That was find out the rumor.

    • @rokball4892
      @rokball4892 3 роки тому +1

      @Bhum Brahmavira Yes they did. But in the 80s they make their AK74 from Romanian spec.

    • @taskforcekarma6945
      @taskforcekarma6945 3 роки тому +2

      The Korean People's Army does utilize the Zastava M76 which is supposedly made and produced locally as the Chogyok-Pochong (Jeogyeok-Bochong/저격 보총
      ).

  • @Tunkkis
    @Tunkkis 3 роки тому +2

    I've been waiting for this since i saw the Silah Report Twitter post.

  • @محمد-ق8ظ4غ
    @محمد-ق8ظ4غ 3 роки тому +4

    فخر الصناعة العراقيه🇮🇶💪

  • @icevanilla931
    @icevanilla931 Рік тому +1

    T and K on the sights are Trenutna (momentary) and Kumulativna (cumulative). Two types of rifle grenades.

  • @lancekilkenny721
    @lancekilkenny721 3 роки тому +11

    Y'all must be out near Apache Junction. I can hear the Apache flying by.

    • @lordperezident
      @lordperezident 3 роки тому +2

      Thay or somewhere by Tucson lol i live in phx

    • @lancekilkenny721
      @lancekilkenny721 3 роки тому +1

      @@lordperezident I was thinking about the Apache manufacturing plant in the east Valley.

  • @Flumphinator
    @Flumphinator 3 роки тому

    I've been waiting for this for a long time. So much respect for both of these guys.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 3 роки тому +3

    Gun Channel: *Gonna discuss guns from Iraq*
    Miles: Did someone say crossover?

  • @dsconnectedn3uron324
    @dsconnectedn3uron324 3 роки тому +2

    I wish Ian would make A real close-up , disassemble video of those two models, especially the one Ian is holding looks like my absolute dream rifle...

    • @Longshot88
      @Longshot88 3 роки тому

      Doesn't Zastava import em?

  • @TheWilldrick
    @TheWilldrick 3 роки тому +3

    12:35 Ian can't help himself, he's screwing over Elbonian yet again...

    • @catfish552
      @catfish552 3 роки тому

      I dunno, these look pretty good. Perfectly cromulent AKs.

  • @WBKasper
    @WBKasper 5 місяців тому

    14:50 - the same technique works with Polish kbk. wz.60 (karabinek-granatnik) aka kbk wz.60 AK-GN (Granat Nasadkowy).
    Live round in chamber - set selector to safe, charge the charging handle - round will be extracted and ejected.

  • @MrMattumbo
    @MrMattumbo 3 роки тому +7

    I love Miles, he's out traveling the world to bring us the most obscure firearms information, and a whole lot of funny stories about gun culture in the developing world.

  • @mpkp2011
    @mpkp2011 3 роки тому +1

    No way, Miles is the best. His content is always so interesting, what an awesome collab

  • @LUR1FAX
    @LUR1FAX 3 роки тому +44

    Is Miles wearing two watches?

    • @edday4093
      @edday4093 3 роки тому +24

      I believe he also wears them on his ankles so he can always check the time. Not sure if they all tell the same time though

    • @realityshotgun
      @realityshotgun 3 роки тому +14

      One might be a fitbit type thing

    • @kiltymacbagpipe
      @kiltymacbagpipe 3 роки тому +4

      The one on his right looks like a compass or something.

    • @silahreport468
      @silahreport468 3 роки тому +5

      @@edday4093 one is a compass :)

    • @Tuluet
      @Tuluet 3 роки тому +2

      Looks like Suunto M-9 wrist compass

  • @Ducaso
    @Ducaso 3 роки тому

    I really like that safety feature on the Yugo pattern AK. Also, it was real nice to see Miles. He seems like a real cool dude in person.

  • @parsecboy4954
    @parsecboy4954 3 роки тому +4

    I've always heard complaints about underfolder AKs being uncomfortable to shoot. I never had a problem with mine. But my wife didn't like it, so I ended up converting it to an AR-style buffer tube.

    • @yassertabikh5362
      @yassertabikh5362 3 роки тому

      How much did that cost?

    • @parsecboy4954
      @parsecboy4954 3 роки тому

      @@yassertabikh5362 I used the Definitive Arms conversion kit - that's running $70 these days. As I recall, I had an extra buffer tube and stock sitting around, but if you don't obviously whatever you get would add to the cost.

    • @strahinjastevic7480
      @strahinjastevic7480 3 роки тому

      well they got out of their way to make most millitary issue ones underfolders so i really doubt they're as uncomfortable as people say

    • @parsecboy4954
      @parsecboy4954 3 роки тому

      @@strahinjastevic7480 Probably people who've never shot one and are just repeating internet lore. "Forum X said they suck, so obviously they do". 🤷‍♂️
      And for the record, my wife's problem was the length of pull, not anything to do with the underfolder stock itself.

  • @Chiller01
    @Chiller01 3 роки тому +2

    Was wondering what happened to Miles. I thought he and the precision rifle guy were the best things on TFB. Nice to see he’s doing well and still feeding his interest in Central Asia.

  • @yahyamusseb
    @yahyamusseb 3 роки тому +4

    17:47 ah yes the under folder also called "nus akhmas" means half stock in arabic, highly sought after by Iraqis

  • @iansanchez331
    @iansanchez331 3 роки тому

    Love Miles Vinning! Bringing light to a not so well known part of gun history that's just as important as the well researched stuff!

  • @masaharumorimoto4761
    @masaharumorimoto4761 3 роки тому +4

    The Iraqi AKs are always neat to see!

  • @StiftikBoliovich
    @StiftikBoliovich 3 роки тому +1

    My understanding was that the tabuk was supposed to be more of a DMR and it's not unlikely I'm wrong about that. What I was told years ago, offhand, is that a tabuk is a yugo pattern AK with an RPK heavy barrel.

  • @SkunkApe407
    @SkunkApe407 3 роки тому +5

    I came across a couple of these during OIF. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of these firearms. I had expected them to be another cheap AK knock-off, but the Iraqis really put some effort into these rifles. Definitely something I would consider adding to my personal collection.

  • @Almirjaffa
    @Almirjaffa 3 роки тому

    that markers on grenade louncher sight in arabic which one is tank and other is personel actually reffer to two main projectiles made to be lounched from that rifle.One is anti-tank projectile “Tromblonska kumulativna mina (TKM) M60” and other is antiperonel projectile “Tromblonska trenutna mina (TTM) M60P1”. Those two are different in lengt and weight and range is not same nither trajectory, therefore seperate markingng has to be engraved

  • @Girder3
    @Girder3 3 роки тому +3

    Sweet! Another crossover episode!

  • @mikemeyer4800
    @mikemeyer4800 3 роки тому +1

    Ive collected ak's for years and have a bunch of yugos, but i never knew about expending the live round with the safety on. Nice!

    • @Deadtileyedie
      @Deadtileyedie 3 роки тому

      I've had a few too and never knew this either!

  • @devmech
    @devmech 3 роки тому +3

    These are two of the cutest, deadliest nerds

  • @mr.c.3760
    @mr.c.3760 3 роки тому

    this was amazing! Please do more collabs with Miles! Or more AK's, preferably both

  • @FireheartSamurai
    @FireheartSamurai 3 роки тому +5

    I remember Miles Vining from TFBtv. I wonder why he’s not posting on there anymore.

  • @richardmartin3243
    @richardmartin3243 3 роки тому +2

    You need at RPKAK47A 6.5 Grendel with a 20" heavy fluted barrel 1/8twist and still be able use AK 47 mags

  • @patrickw9520
    @patrickw9520 3 роки тому +11

    The Iraqis actually made pretty nice AKs. Had more issues with Chinese and Hungarian made rifles when i was in that region.
    The iraqis had the $$$$ to bring in good guidance and skilled engineers to get setup. We helped fund it all too...

    • @aletorre627
      @aletorre627 3 роки тому +1

      When I was a kid I went on a tour on an Italian warship that had some writing in Arabic, the officer touring us told us it was an export vessel meant to be sold to Iraq but the order was canceled after Iraqi Freedom (or desert storm? Can't remember) and the ship was refitted for use in the Italian navy, but some writing on the controls etc. were still in Arabic, my kid self was pretty surprised

    • @catrachocolo
      @catrachocolo 3 роки тому

      @@aletorre627 Desert Storm.

    • @troyweatherford2428
      @troyweatherford2428 3 роки тому +2

      Until their foreign technical support left then they turned to shit

    • @GeN56YoS
      @GeN56YoS 3 роки тому

      @@aletorre627 I doubt that they are the exact ones you saw but 2 Italian frigates from a Saddam era deal were delivered recently to the IQ navy.

  • @ImYourIchigo
    @ImYourIchigo 3 роки тому

    Wow. The reset on those are really crisp.