The Golden Kalashnikov out of Saddam Hussein's Iraq, with firearms expert Jonathan Ferguson

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  • Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
  • We're kicking the new year off with what could be our highest profile weapon in the collection... or at very least our shiniest. Join Jonathan Ferguson as he reveals this Golden Kalashnikov's connections to a famous dictator and bloody conflict.
    See this golden AK in our newest exhibition, Re:Loaded, which was curated by Jonathan himself. Pre-book your free ticket here: bit.ly/47m5wTg
    Vlad Onokoy's articles on the history of the Tabuk:
    www.recoilweb.com/the-history...
    www.recoilweb.com/son-of-tabu...
    0:00 Intro
    0:20 Re:Loaded!
    0:45 Origins
    1:43 What is this AK?
    3:29 Gun Details
    6:15 Purpose?
    7:39 Wider context
    9:52 Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 881

  • @otbc1999
    @otbc1999 6 місяців тому +2067

    Our boy, Jonathan unlocked the gold camo 🙌

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 6 місяців тому +33

      Next step, diamond

    • @gibuz
      @gibuz 6 місяців тому +42

      how many people did he kill

    • @amydoesart3724
      @amydoesart3724 6 місяців тому +4

      Or the opset of a camo on this case

    • @deusvultpictures6550
      @deusvultpictures6550 6 місяців тому +13

      He got Red Tiger on all other assault rifles, nice

    • @Cats-TM
      @Cats-TM 6 місяців тому +3

      Oh no, how will we ever see him again!

  • @papaswanson
    @papaswanson 6 місяців тому +193

    Congratulations on Max Prestige, Jonathan!

  • @Azeria
    @Azeria 6 місяців тому +371

    It’s easy to forget but real gold guns like this from Iraq are literally why ‘gold camo’ became a thing in video games. Call of Duty 4 tried its best to only featured guns you could actually find in modern conflicts around the world at the time (and also the Desert Eagle), and that extended it its difficult to unlock final ‘camouflage’ variant, gold. It was only available on one weapon per type, one of which was the ‘AK-47’ as it’s called in that game.

    • @peteredwards2318
      @peteredwards2318 6 місяців тому

      Yeah, Iraq and also from the cartels and other similarly psychologically aligned entities, persons and organisations. Anywhere power through violence and excessive wealth are concentrated, you'll find some ostentatious creep putting gaudy plating on boomsticks.

    • @Maxtime123
      @Maxtime123 6 місяців тому +20

      True. The first 'Gold Guns' in Call of Duty history was in CoD4:MW where it's the AK47 and the DE.
      There was also a Gold Knife I think.

    • @Ukraineaissance2014
      @Ukraineaissance2014 6 місяців тому +15

      Golden gun in goldeneye

    • @Azeria
      @Azeria 6 місяців тому +26

      @@Ukraineaissance2014 right, I wasn’t saying it was the first time a gold gun had appeared in a video game, rather COD4 is why the idea of ‘gold camo’ being the top tier unlock became such a popular thing in multiplayer shooters

    • @Cerebrums
      @Cerebrums 6 місяців тому +10

      Gold Dragunov, UZI, M60 and M1014 shotgun are among to ones OP didn't mention, but no knife. Knives in cod 4 were still just a button input rather than an equippable weapon so we hadn't received any interesting unlocks for them yet.

  • @eddietat95
    @eddietat95 6 місяців тому +644

    Saddam was a huge gun guy, apparently, along with his sons. He was captured in the hole with a Glock 18C (which was Oval Office decor for the rest of Bush's tenure and now resides in the Bush Presidential Library/Museum), he was seen in archival footage with Lee-Enfields and Browning Hi-Powers, and he had MP5K briefcases, FALs, gold-plated MP5SDs, even P90s (captured by the US Army and some are on display at Army museums). There were also gold-plated AKs like this one and gold-plated SVDs, RPKs, AKS-74Us, even RPG-7s at their many hideouts. And who could forget the (failed) Project Babylon supergun?
    Edit: It seems there's some repeated confusion in the comments over how Bush was able to "own" a post-1986 machine gun in the Glock 18C. Firstly, he doesn't own it privately at all, the federal government owns it. He can't take it back to his Texas ranch or whatever and use it. It's public property as a museum piece. Second, his presence in the White House does not constitute ownership by proximity, as the White House itself (and all of its contents) is considered public property, more or less a live-in federal museum showcasing guns like the muskets of 1776 and also housing a fairly large USMC and Secret Service arsenal - none of which the President has any authority to use as a public servant. The President does not privately own the White House, he gets invited to the White House by the federal government and must leave when his term of office is over.
    The Glock was taken off Saddam by Delta Force/CAG who presented it to Bush in a locked display case that was hung on a wall (or laid on a table) in the Oval Office until his second term ended in 2008, when it was transferred to government storage and, later, loaned out to the Bush Presidential Library/Museum upon its opening in 2013 (buy a ticket and you can see the Glock yourself).
    Highly doubt George ever asked Secret Service to open the case much less fire it, nor did he want to. It's a piece of American history that represents the defeat of Saddam and the US forces that made this happen. It has Saddam's fingerprints on it and to use it to be to ruin a historical artifact. George wasn't much of a gun guy anyways. Even if he was, he could just fly to Ft. Bragg and fire anything in their vast, vast, VAST reference/training collection, Glock 18Cs included.

    • @eddietat95
      @eddietat95 6 місяців тому +23

      AP has some great footage on UA-cam of some of these guns being captured and inspected by the US Army. One is titled "GWT: Custom-made weapons found in Uday's house." It was a wild time.

    • @BarBar3ar
      @BarBar3ar 6 місяців тому +18

      Not that the choice of firearm made a big difference in the event of his capture, but is an 18C really the best thing he coulda brought down there out of his whole arsenal?

    • @eddietat95
      @eddietat95 6 місяців тому +26

      @@BarBar3ar I guess he brought it along to perhaps serve as a status symbol to Ba'athists still loyal to him or to fend off a common passerby looter or mugger. His main defense against Coalition forces was concealment.

    • @Willy_Tepes
      @Willy_Tepes 6 місяців тому +42

      The words "captured" and "liberated" are oft used euphemisms for "stolen".

    • @eddietat95
      @eddietat95 6 місяців тому +19

      Interesting excerpt from "Guns of the Special Forces, 2001-2015" by Leigh Neville:
      "Like many SMGs, the P90 has been more widely seen in the hands of celluloid special
      operators than in the hands of real-life operators. Infamously it was apparently among a
      number of weapons used by Uday and Qusay Hussein, Qusay’s son and their bodyguard
      against a Delta assault force who attempted to capture them in Iraq in July 2003. One Delta operator was allegedly struck in the leg by a 5.7 × 28mm round from a P90."
      Uday and Qusay were eventually killed in that firefight.

  • @cpuuk
    @cpuuk 6 місяців тому +55

    "This is my gold plated Kalashnikov. There are many other similar in variant, but this one is mine. My rifle is my best friend, unless a Coalition force is barrelling down the front door, in which case it just looks pretty".

    • @itsawoodchuck4330
      @itsawoodchuck4330 6 місяців тому +1

      I believe the sons fought to the death and they ended up blowing up the house to kill them. So I suppose those golden ak’s were their best friends till the end, and even stopped the coalition force attempting barrel through the front door and force them to rethink and adjust their strategy.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@itsawoodchuck4330 That would make them more valuable considering that those were actually used.

  • @Squishrug
    @Squishrug 6 місяців тому +164

    Honestly other than the mismatched grip-handguard combo that gun is surprisingly tasteful as far as "blinged" stuff goes, no engraving, no gems, no design, just gun but gold

    • @WayStedYou
      @WayStedYou 6 місяців тому +30

      I think straight up chrome finish looks better

    • @gadsdenjim8785
      @gadsdenjim8785 6 місяців тому +7

      I agree. I like the clean no markings and especially how the receiver isn’t all polished out so you see the grain of the steel through the gold.

    • @Joosher56
      @Joosher56 6 місяців тому +6

      Yeah overdone engravings can look really tacky, a simple shiny metal finish is clean and understated

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 6 місяців тому +13

      If this had been treated to a proper surface finish, prior to the gold plating, and some high shine reddish hardwood furniture it would have been pretty nice. But gold plating straight over that horribly machined surface makes it look like a vulgar trailer park job done by a tweaker.

    • @fireblow6842
      @fireblow6842 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@andersjjensenfirst of all, taste. And secondly, since they found it in iraq, it might've been done by a "tweaker"

  • @f15htast1c
    @f15htast1c 6 місяців тому +81

    Visited the Reloaded exhibition on opening day, whole-heartedly recommend it. Full of absolutely wild pieces like this one.

    • @RoyalArmouries
      @RoyalArmouries  6 місяців тому +13

      Glad you enjoyed it! What was your favourite? 🤔

    • @f15htast1c
      @f15htast1c 6 місяців тому +12

      @@RoyalArmouries I think my actual favourite was the Browning Gold Classic Hi-Power. Nicely decorated without being too gaudy.
      Special mention to the gold-plated SVD, though. There's something even more outlandish about a marksman rifle getting that treatment.

  • @newpeupyoass
    @newpeupyoass 6 місяців тому +36

    It's also interesting that this is a mixmatch of AKM and M70 features.

    • @gadsdenjim8785
      @gadsdenjim8785 6 місяців тому +5

      It’s really just a M92 with it’s own distinct gas block and muzzle device. A lot of older M92’s (and even some M70’s) didn’t have the bulged trunnion. There’s M92’s that have been imported in the US with a standard trunnion like that.

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 6 місяців тому +2

      @@gadsdenjim8785 The gas block/FSB looks Valmet inspired to me

  • @DK-gy7ll
    @DK-gy7ll 6 місяців тому +180

    I'm surprised you never mentioned how you acquired this piece. If I remember correctly from a news article it was taken by a US soldier who tried to mail it home, and it was discovered by Heathrow Airport Customs. Fortunately it was donated to your museum rather than being destroyed.

    • @PootisPenserPow
      @PootisPenserPow 6 місяців тому +77

      Imagine how upset that soldier was. Dude thought he hit the battlefield pick-up jackpot

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 6 місяців тому +66

      @@PootisPenserPow They robbed him.

    • @zwenkwiel816
      @zwenkwiel816 6 місяців тому +34

      ​@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine it's what the British do, Royal armory is still a museum.

    • @Loweko1170
      @Loweko1170 6 місяців тому +71

      I hate to ruin everyone's fun, but it was confiscated as part of an arms shipment trying to get smuggled through Heathrow, alongside rocket launchers and a sniper rifle.

    • @jonathannathan1754
      @jonathannathan1754 6 місяців тому +2

      @@zwenkwiel816 They must be stopped

  • @TMNewtBoy
    @TMNewtBoy 6 місяців тому +11

    These are always such interesting glimpses into history, through a very specific lens. Fascinating.

  • @ristoalanko9281
    @ristoalanko9281 6 місяців тому +53

    That AK resembles quite a lot the gold plated RK62 that was offered to the Emir of Quatar in 1970s by Valmet. The final delivery was satin chromed RK62 with dark wood furniture and white parade sling. But the gold plated example is gorgeous, with polished dark mahogany stock, handguard and pistol grip. By the way, this Tabuk has a Finnish style gas block / front sight.

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 6 місяців тому +13

      I couldn't figure out why it had a Valmet FSB - that might be the answer, thank you.

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 6 місяців тому

      I thought the sighted gasblock had a very Valmet/Galil look to it.

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen 6 місяців тому

      Why would Valmet want to give a gold gun to the leader of THAT country?

    • @mo7.7
      @mo7.7 6 місяців тому

      never heard or seen that, any links or pictures?

    • @justanothergunnerd8128
      @justanothergunnerd8128 6 місяців тому +4

      @@andyfriederichsen If memory serves, Valmet made a few guns for Qatar or whatever country. The gold rifle I believe was a gift to someone as a thank you for the contract - I could be remembering wrong though...

  • @RadioactiveSherbet
    @RadioactiveSherbet 6 місяців тому +6

    In Red Dead Redemption 2, my favorite style was blued finish + gold engraving. The blue finish really makes the gold stand out, and I think it looks amazing.

  • @fearnlj01
    @fearnlj01 6 місяців тому

    I went down to see the exhibit just the other day... It's certainly worth checking out in person! Nothing quite like seeing all the weapons on display in person, plus all the regular Royal Armouries goodness!

  • @driftertank
    @driftertank 6 місяців тому +45

    It's fascinating that they gold plated over the brushing and machining on the receiver. Would think if they were going through the trouble to gold plate it, they would have polished up the steel first.

    • @gadsdenjim8785
      @gadsdenjim8785 6 місяців тому +15

      I think it looks nice and clean like that. I like the visible grain, brushed look with the gold. Not as obnoxiously shiny.

    • @n0tthemessiah
      @n0tthemessiah 6 місяців тому +8

      I think that's what Jonathan was referring to when he was talking about the Sterling. The gold-plated Sterling seems much more polished than this AK; at least, from the little bit you can see in the video.

    • @SgtBeltfed
      @SgtBeltfed 6 місяців тому +5

      Probably different levels of gift guns. This one would be one of the lower level guns. I've seen pictures of a few other gold plated AK's from Iraq, and a few of them had mirror finishes.

  • @quadpictures
    @quadpictures 6 місяців тому +15

    How many headshots did you need to unlock this Jonathan?

  • @AdrianDowthwaite
    @AdrianDowthwaite 6 місяців тому +9

    I saw this in Re:loaded, the guide book has exquisite photographs and descriptions to bring each peices to life. The Royal Armouries is huge, so will have to go back again myself. They leand out wheelchairs and assitive items which helped me greatly.

  • @acetrigger1337
    @acetrigger1337 6 місяців тому +1

    The Bob Ross moment of saying "Jonathan here with a special one, but i think they are all special".

  • @stub6378
    @stub6378 6 місяців тому +3

    I don’t even like guns…but i just love experts like Jonathan talking about stuff. I learn by accident!

  • @harmlesscreationsofthegree1248
    @harmlesscreationsofthegree1248 6 місяців тому +3

    The gold Sterling is wild! I love the idea of blinging out a basic tool like that. I think I now want a platinum spatula 🙂

  • @walkerwhited
    @walkerwhited 6 місяців тому +7

    Can we please make an Antiques Roadshow type show here in US with Jonathan as the host? Id watch that everyday.

  • @TheWarmotor
    @TheWarmotor 6 місяців тому +86

    I had a buddy that signed up after 911, he was there at Uday's place when they took him out. Story he told was that someone opened up from inside the compound with an emplaced belt-fed when they attempted entry, they pulled a rocket propelled ordinance out of the back of the HUMVEE he was driving and used it to neutralize the emplaced MG and they ended up having to re-assemble Uday's remains for identification. I suppose it's possible that he'd embellished the extent to which he was involved, but he was never that type of guy and he didn't claim to be the guy who actually fired the rocket... Take that for what you will.

    • @earlofpants
      @earlofpants 6 місяців тому +11

      on the wikipedia page it says 12 tow missles took him out, and that they weren't even at uday's palace, so idk man

    • @TheWarmotor
      @TheWarmotor 6 місяців тому +3

      @@earlofpants I was told that it took place at a compound where he was holed-up, and that one of his team took the placard from in front of the building. Apparently it was some sort of govt. issue address plate. I asked if it were to be sold on ebay or given to a museum or something, he told me that it would be considered a war trophy and could land someone in a court martial, so it likely would not see the light of day in his lifetime.
      Of course I'm aware that it's entirely possible that it was a tall tale that got passed from soldier to soldier and probably told by quite a few of them! I wasn't about to question the story of a good friend who'd returned home from war while I sat at home with my family, playing XBOX with my kids. I just thought it was an interesting tale in the context of the video, and if he were there in any capacity maybe he'd seen the gun in question :)

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen 6 місяців тому

      @@TheWarmotor Didn't the soldiers try to take Uday and his brother alive but gave up and just leveled the building after several soldiers got killed trying to enter?

    • @TheWarmotor
      @TheWarmotor 6 місяців тому +1

      @@andyfriederichsen That's what I was told. They encountered heavy emplaced resistance so they just opened up with rockets and ended up having to stitch their remains together for identification.

    • @andyfriederichsen
      @andyfriederichsen 6 місяців тому

      @@TheWarmotor I heard they also had at least one A-10 Thunderbolt II and a few armed Kiowa helicopters in the area that also opened fire.

  • @sgtommyc
    @sgtommyc 6 місяців тому

    It's been a while since I last saw that gun, thanks for refreshing my memory :)

  • @ozarkscarguy540
    @ozarkscarguy540 6 місяців тому +7

    Please do a full walk though of this exhibit for those of us who can't make it to another country. I don't care if it's 3 hours long and comes out after the exhibit is changed. I want to see it.

    • @leonardhpls6
      @leonardhpls6 6 місяців тому

      Ok will do just for you. Unedited tour in next few weeks

  • @showeritonthenavy7788
    @showeritonthenavy7788 6 місяців тому +7

    when i saw it on the news the gold finish actually didn't look as good as it really is.

  • @user-ox4lg3gd7c
    @user-ox4lg3gd7c 6 місяців тому +1

    Unable to attend the exhibit so super thanks for the well done presentation!

  • @ashleysmith3106
    @ashleysmith3106 6 місяців тому

    If only I could make it there ! ! Happy New Year from rural South Australia !

    • @andrewnoble7071
      @andrewnoble7071 6 місяців тому

      If you really want to see one there’s one of these rifles in display at the Australian war memorial in Canberra

  • @PikeyScott
    @PikeyScott 6 місяців тому

    Excellent video, thanks.

  • @abu.7awas
    @abu.7awas 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for the beautiful topic ♥️ This short version of the “Tabuk” version for the State of Iraq is very beautiful with its distinctive design, but one of its disadvantages is that it breaks down a lot during rapid shooting, because I have this same copy 👌🏻🇸🇦 and it is considered one of the rare copies ♥️

  • @harryfaber
    @harryfaber 6 місяців тому +1

    Glad you mentioned the gold plated Sterling. My father was a school teacher in Dagenham and took a school party (for careers information) the the Sterling factory, when he came home, he told us about a 'gold plated' gun and how it was made as a sales/promotional presentation gun. Memory may be faulty, but I thought it was going to be given to the Sultan of Brunei. I guess if you want a big order, giving away the odd 'gold' gun makes sense.

  • @X1ZR
    @X1ZR 6 місяців тому +2

    I'd love to see more decorated/custom firearms. So cool.

  • @lizardland
    @lizardland 6 місяців тому

    Saw the exhibition on Saturday. Really interesting and some beautiful pieces of workmanship. I think my fave was the Browning. And then there's this Tabuk which is the Wetherspoons of luxury guns.

  • @Getpojke
    @Getpojke 6 місяців тому +1

    @RoyalArmouries Though not a fan of these all over gold plated guns, would love it is Jonathan did a video on the gold plated Sterling. Would be great for those of us not able to visit the exhibition. Nice to see the fit & finish of a precious metal on two essentially "bargain/basic" but highly utilitarian firearms.
    Though I'm not a fan of bling, I do love polished copper & brass. I had the change to handle a very nicely polished Lanchester SMG. The brass magazine housing was old enough to take on that deep glossy patina of old brass & I fell in love with it.

  • @donwyoming1936
    @donwyoming1936 6 місяців тому +8

    Remember Classic Arms in North Carolina chrome & gold plating just about any gun they thought someone would buy. Everything from Mosins, to AKs to surplus pistols. I couldn't resist a chromed M44. 🤠

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 6 місяців тому

      How much do they charge? Seattle gold engraving sells gold plated wasr10s and it cost a big fat 2500-3500

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 6 місяців тому

      Do they fix the surface finish first? What makes this look like "plastic gold" is that it wasn't polished to a mirror shine prior to the gold plating.

  • @andieslandies
    @andieslandies 6 місяців тому +2

    The gold plating on the example you've shown appears to be in much better condition than the example I have worked with, though it looks to be of about the same quality. I hope your conservators and preparators experience less worry about plating losses than I have when determining the most appropriate mounting method for display!

  • @lucasbezerracardoso4662
    @lucasbezerracardoso4662 6 місяців тому +1

    Happy Birthday Jonathan!🥳

  • @samsham8218
    @samsham8218 6 місяців тому

    WOW i wish i could see that exhibit!!

  • @Lankythepyro
    @Lankythepyro 6 місяців тому +4

    Fantastic item, thank you for sharing it with us.
    Speaking of AK oddities from the Middle East, I understand the infamous hodge-podged AKMSU is in the collection of the Royal Armouries. I'd love to see you do a video on it.

    • @therideneverends1697
      @therideneverends1697 6 місяців тому

      That one has always been a point of fascination for me as well, was it a one off factory thing? or just some guys garage build that ended up being one of the most mythical guns of modern history?

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 6 місяців тому

      @@therideneverends1697 I believe they figured it to be a Khyber Pass build made mainly from a number of factory parts of different origins.

  • @jonr6680
    @jonr6680 6 місяців тому +3

    Makes perfect sense if you wear aviator sunglasses all the time. In the hot desert sun, would've been blinding.

  • @roadrash3101
    @roadrash3101 6 місяців тому +2

    There is a U.S military museum located in Rock Island, Illinois that I've visited a couple of times many years ago. It might have been part of a traveling exhibit and not part of their permanent collection, but I do remember seeing a gold-plated rifle of some sort there. As a kid, you usually don't pay too much attention as to what it actually was because it's pretty. If my memory serves me correctly, it was either one of Saddam's personal Kalashnikov rifles from the 1991 Gulf War, or a milestone serial number for the U.S. M-60 machine guns. The M-60 was produced there at some point in time, as well as the M1903 Springfield rifle. It's definitely on my bucket list to go back there again. Thank you for this video!

  • @jcodym13
    @jcodym13 6 місяців тому +6

    Count Dankula did a very in depth mini-doc about one of Hussein's sons. It was utterly horrific. Dude was a monster

    • @THALASA
      @THALASA 6 місяців тому +1

      The wedding story pissed me off so much, absolute disgusting

    • @0neDoomedSpaceMarine
      @0neDoomedSpaceMarine 6 місяців тому

      Uday was quite the demon.

  • @xwaltranx
    @xwaltranx 6 місяців тому

    i was postponing visiting leeds but now i have to come and see the reloaded!!!

  • @TunnelSnakes_Rule
    @TunnelSnakes_Rule 6 місяців тому +5

    There's one of these on display at the Australian War Memorial, it is slightly different with the most notable difference being that the handguard has a gold disc with the national emblem of Iraq and an Arabic inscription that says "A GIFT FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC, MR SADDAM HUSSEIN."

    • @sabreTXC3
      @sabreTXC3 6 місяців тому

      Us Americans love Aussies. They were there since day one. Some people call it WW1. And they were there before us. During Vietnam they had our backs and deserve all the praises they get. Bad no fos them Aussies are and always will be.

  • @DeMZIrus
    @DeMZIrus 6 місяців тому

    Safety translation is a great touch to video!

  • @Cats-TM
    @Cats-TM 6 місяців тому

    Nice, it is both interesting due to the gold platting and the semi-weird variant that it is!
    9:00
    Wow, it is really cool to be able to see into the magazine. Something about that is just really interesting.

  • @quadpictures
    @quadpictures 6 місяців тому +7

    My favourite CoD4 AK camo

  • @williestyle35
    @williestyle35 6 місяців тому

    I like gold "plated" guns so much... That as a kid I used gold and silver tinted paint markers on a "cap gun" by Edison Giocattoli. It was the "Jaguarmatic" (or "Falconmatic") model and it looked alright with the metalic paint, but my wife made me give it up when moved in together. 😜 good times
    Thank you to Jonathan Ferguson and Royal Armouries for this fun video.

  • @Getpojke
    @Getpojke 6 місяців тому +21

    Often wondered how durable the gold finish on these AK's is? Does it easily wear off? Does it add any appreciable weight or is it so thin that it's not really noticeable?

    • @BloopTube
      @BloopTube 6 місяців тому +23

      Its going to be so thin as to not be noticable, however gold is incredibly soft so its not going to be in any way scratch resistant.

    • @Getpojke
      @Getpojke 6 місяців тому +11

      @@BloopTube Yeah I thought so on the scratching front. I've handled old pistols with gold inlay, but as it was inlaid it was protected. I suppose the gun shown has lived as a wall hanger or was relatively new as it didn't look that scratched. You could also see the tooling marks of the metal underneath which is why I asked how thin it must be. The brief clip of the gold plated Sterling looked a lot more robust.
      Cheers for the reply.

    • @TransistorBased
      @TransistorBased 6 місяців тому +4

      I've seen lower grade gold plated ones for sale, given the prices it can't be very thick.

    • @nonna_sof5889
      @nonna_sof5889 6 місяців тому +7

      There's also the issue of the differing thermal expansions of the metals during prolonged shooting.

    • @barbarossarotbart
      @barbarossarotbart 6 місяців тому +2

      If it is fireplated, then it is very durable.

  • @71Chris
    @71Chris 6 місяців тому +4

    I found a tangent thought rather funny, it's a Tabuk Short Assault Rifle, a TSAR, which is the name of the royalty in Russia. Being gold also lends itself to this thought of this Russian weapon.

  • @garyfoss4394
    @garyfoss4394 6 місяців тому +6

    The thing that stands out to me about the plating on this piece is that it's rather slapdash. That is, one of the basic things people get wrong about plating (chrome, nickel, gold, etc.) is that they think it will cover or even fix flaws on the piece. More often than not, the opposite is true. Plating is very thin (that's kind of the point) and making something shinier just brings out the flaws in the existing piece. Really good plating isn't so much about that final step of putting on the surface material, but about prepping the piece to be plated. Plating itself is really just dunking it into a solution and electrifying it. (Usually. There are other methods.) If I were going to gold plate something, I'd want it to be as shiny and reflective as possible, since that's kind of the point of putting a lustrous material on it. I can't say what the goal was here for this particular piece. Making a "low-end gold plate" version might have been fine, just for the sake of saying it's "gold". Nobody watching someone wave it about would probably care how fine the finish is, under the assumption that anyone who would bother to carry such a thing takes his own ego very, very seriously, but isn't really concerned about little details like the quality of a finish... or who it's being pointed at. Interact with such a person at your own risk, the plating says. Or it might very well just be a display piece that nobody is meant to get close to. From that I can tell in the video (caveats for not seeing it in person and UA-cam video quality) that one looks like something they might as well have spray painted.

    • @DiggingForFacts
      @DiggingForFacts 6 місяців тому +5

      Hence these probably being "diplomatic gifts" in a sense, rather than actual objects of conspicuous consumption with a craftsmanship value. The Tabuks weren't exactly made to a high finishing standard in general so I doubt they had any interest in spending much more time to polish everything to the highest degree when all it really was supposed to be was a badge of favour. This exists solely to be a signifier of "Saddam likes you/thanks you for your service to the regime" and where most states would do that with a medal or something similar, there are probably cultural connotations (and macho connotations) around being gifted a weapon.

    • @twistedyogert
      @twistedyogert 4 місяці тому

      Isn't plating only a few atoms thick?

    • @garyfoss4394
      @garyfoss4394 4 місяці тому

      @@twistedyogertIt can be. It depends on how long and how many times the object is put in solution, but it can be so thin that you could basically take it off immediately with an abrasive polish, so one has to be careful just cleaning it. Other plating can be like a very thin coat of paint. (It's still not like paint because it doesn't go on like a liquid, but adheres Something like a gold plating is mostly likely going to be on the thinner side just because of the cost of the gold solution.

  • @mclew1234
    @mclew1234 6 місяців тому +8

    I could imagine its not out of the question that to keep costs down there would be a whole stock of these kept at the royal palaces without the medallions and insignia marking on the hand guard. They were kept almost as stock so they were produced in 1 batch & then when the time came for them to be gifted either the hand guard would be removed & crafted or a completely fresh hand guard would be made to replace the original.

    • @TransistorBased
      @TransistorBased 6 місяців тому +5

      I can't imagine changing out parts in these once they're plated. Even pulling the gas tube off will incur scratches on the receiver and the combo block

    • @Driessens_Peter
      @Driessens_Peter 6 місяців тому

      make sence

  • @oddball_the_blue
    @oddball_the_blue 6 місяців тому

    I'll have to drop round. I've seen a gold damascene Luger in Malaysia before in one of their museums which was a fascinating item to come across, but having this display opening soon right on my doorstep something to look forward to.

  • @waynecunning5733
    @waynecunning5733 6 місяців тому

    I was waiting for the "give a way" at the end!😃

  • @Gr1m_laden_7
    @Gr1m_laden_7 6 місяців тому +6

    I was privileged to go on a private tour of the firearms collection years ago through work, and I saw this rifle along with some gold desert eagles I believe, maybe a pair or maybe just one, can't remember, very pretty 😍

    • @LaurenceWhiting
      @LaurenceWhiting 6 місяців тому

      Me too! I wonder if our work thing is the same. Love seeing the guns first hand and then on the channel.

  • @bitfreakazoid
    @bitfreakazoid 6 місяців тому

    The revolver at 8:00 I really love the engraving work on that.

  • @veselinjokanovic3032
    @veselinjokanovic3032 6 місяців тому

    Im so proud of myself for thinking to myself at the start of the video "Damn that looks like a weird Yugo". 😅

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 6 місяців тому +1

    Indeed that one is a lower grade, the high-grade ones with the inscription were hand-finished to give a lustre like the Stirling you showed, they were mirror finished and (IIRC) had timber furniture in exotic timbers in some cases.
    And yes, there are many like it but that one is yours :D

  • @engineerskalinera
    @engineerskalinera 6 місяців тому +1

    The Tabuk carbine has a very nice look to it, it's like an acoustic AK-104

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc 6 місяців тому +2

    Strangely enough, looking at the close ups of it, all I could think of was how 'average' the construction appeared. As if they took a standard gun off the production line and just plated it without any additional prep work, such as making sure lines fitted etc. I've not seen the higher quality ones so I don't know if they were better.

  • @robpaige2376
    @robpaige2376 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm wondering if the marbled polymer sections are meant to simulate burr walnut, which was what I initially thought they were. It seems to be in keeping with the whole bling thing.

  • @lmAIone
    @lmAIone 6 місяців тому

    Id like to see more videos like this boss, these guns are pretty unique.

  • @RiccardoTheBeAst
    @RiccardoTheBeAst 6 місяців тому

    ArmA II has that gun. I thought it was a fantasy gun, but hell, here it is for real! Thanks for sharing video and information about it!

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 6 місяців тому +3

    Nothing says shoot me like a gold plated gun!

    • @capt.bart.roberts4975
      @capt.bart.roberts4975 6 місяців тому +2

      As in, "Ooo look a guy with a gold gun, must be an officer!"

  • @TheMelbournelad
    @TheMelbournelad 6 місяців тому

    Man having this in golden eye was gold tier

  • @blackore64
    @blackore64 6 місяців тому +2

    Gas block seems to be a copy of RK-62 gas block design (minus night sights) or based on the Galil one, which is same but just for 5.56 rifle

  • @buck0486
    @buck0486 6 місяців тому +8

    I was lucky enough to encounter one of these when I was deployed to Iraq in 2011. One of the high-ranking officers at the base where I was stationed had it in his personal collection. The one I held had the medallion and inscription in the grip, but as I recall the finish was not as pristine as this one. It was a very impressive weapon to see in person. There was also a gold-plated suppressed MP5 with it, but I remember the gold plate on it being significantly more worn.

    • @Fishifyed
      @Fishifyed 6 місяців тому

      Battle Scared or Minimal Ware? 😅

  • @Tekdruid
    @Tekdruid 6 місяців тому

    Thank you MTV for pimping my gat!

  • @TheStrayHALOMAN
    @TheStrayHALOMAN 6 місяців тому

    Count Dankula mad an excellent video about Uday.

  • @gammalgubbestorstadshoodie9148
    @gammalgubbestorstadshoodie9148 6 місяців тому +2

    Jonathan Ferguson could ask his American friend Ian of forgotten weapons if Ian has any golden colored plated guns that Jonathan Ferguson wants for his weapon collection!

  • @spike6385
    @spike6385 6 місяців тому

    Fascinating!

  • @searle_harbour
    @searle_harbour 3 місяці тому

    came down over easter for the jousting and reloaded, loved the gold mp5, and that platinum 60-9 revolver needs its own video :D would certainly be interesting to know how much that thing cost to make with 38 carats and 400grams of white gold and platinum

  • @Star24xx
    @Star24xx Місяць тому

    THE FKING VIDEO I’VE BEEN WAITING YEARS FOR FINALLYYYYYYYYYYYY

  • @derekp2674
    @derekp2674 6 місяців тому +18

    Happy New Year All
    Thanks for showing us this one, Jonathan and team.
    In Far Cry 2, a few gold AKs can be found hidden in odd locations. I don't know if they have better stats than the ordinary in game AKs but they can be handy to grab before you have done enough missions to unlock the ordinary AKs.

  • @pyeitme508
    @pyeitme508 6 місяців тому +2

    GOLD!

  • @lathanchurch8352
    @lathanchurch8352 6 місяців тому +1

    Man I wish I could visit the exhibit, any chance you could do a virtual walk through?

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 6 місяців тому +3

      Great idea, that's up to our Comms team though.

    • @lathanchurch8352
      @lathanchurch8352 6 місяців тому

      @@jonathanferguson1211 would you pass it on for me please

  • @headshot6959
    @headshot6959 6 місяців тому

    Interesting.. just out of curiosity, have you _scored_ the gold anywhere or made an abrasive polish to see what the strike layer is beneath it? Just wondering whether this was done by a professional jeweller or someone little more than a hobbyist.

  • @MagraveOfGA
    @MagraveOfGA 5 місяців тому

    Ah I love these things, I used to work with the curator at the 3rd Infantry Museum in the States and they had a collection of quite a few of golden and/or highly decorated rifles/shotguns "liberated" from Saddam's palace and guards that were "donated" by soldiers involved in the capture.
    My favorites were the several golden SVD rifles. Though the gold MP5s are amazing as well.

  • @shitsmells
    @shitsmells 6 місяців тому

    What was the measured barrel length? Is the gas piston/bolt carrier the same as found in 16" AK variants?

  • @frozenred3491
    @frozenred3491 6 місяців тому

    An AK with a galil front sight block? Now that's something I never thought I'd see

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 6 місяців тому +3

      It's actually pure Valmet! The Galil FSB is slightly different.

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 6 місяців тому +1

    If it is dull, they either plated on a dull surface. That would be sequential with a copper strike over the iron first then nickel or maybe silver and then gold. All those need to go well and be polished with each layer, maybe just electro-finishing instead.
    Or they didn't polish it enough usually because the plate it too thin, or they used the wrong buffing compound.
    All the work really goes in Before you plate. It has to be mirror finish first if that's what you want at the end.

  • @therideneverends1697
    @therideneverends1697 6 місяців тому

    Is it possible the handgaurd was taken from Bulgarian type 3 export AKs?
    I have a furniture set from a Bulgarian type 3 and it looks identical to that front handguard

  • @Tekdruid
    @Tekdruid 6 місяців тому

    4:30 One would kind of expect dark wooden furniture of some description, maybe ebony.

  • @schizoidboy
    @schizoidboy 6 місяців тому

    At West Point Museum in the War on Terror in Iraq section they have a chrome plated AK.

  • @ashleystyles6888
    @ashleystyles6888 6 місяців тому +1

    Hi Jonathan can you review the zastava m21 in 5.56mm please? If you have one (sure you do!). I was issued one as a contractor. Cheers

  • @chadparker8198
    @chadparker8198 6 місяців тому

    They have the top hand guard on backwards. The piston housing is correct, but the cover needs to be twisted around it and reversed.

  • @scottconlon5585
    @scottconlon5585 6 місяців тому

    Where do you get the perspex stand from Jonathan?

    • @jonathanferguson1211
      @jonathanferguson1211 6 місяців тому +2

      It was made by our technicians but I've seen similar ones online - Etsy, I think?

  • @iforget_2780
    @iforget_2780 6 місяців тому

    loyal armouries becomes forgotten weapons channel

  • @aeloswindrunner
    @aeloswindrunner 6 місяців тому

    Gold AK was briefly in an episode of Bluestone 42, though that was set in Afghanistan

  • @slamshift6927
    @slamshift6927 6 місяців тому

    Why is the top of the handguard backwards?

  • @F1ghteR41
    @F1ghteR41 6 місяців тому +1

    What always surpised me in these sorts of guns is the contrast between the amount of gold and lack of fine engravings or elegant furniture.

    • @05Matz
      @05Matz 6 місяців тому +1

      I suppose gold plating, as a process that can be done well in big batches and consumes a lot less gold than it looks like, is surprisingly affordable for the political class in most places, whereas nice engravings and such still require craftspeople to spend a great deal of time over each piece -- not really suitable for a bulk order of 'bribe/commendation' weapons to be handed out whenever you need to curry favour with someone.

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 6 місяців тому +1

      @@05Matz This makes sense indeed, but gives a strange impression nonetheless. It almost looks like a titanium nitride finish if not for wear marks, which, as discussed elsewhere in the comments, are visible on some of these pieces.

  • @mrbluesky2050
    @mrbluesky2050 6 місяців тому

    . . . " there are many like it" . . . anybody else pick up on that part quote ???

  • @JounLord1
    @JounLord1 6 місяців тому

    Not really a fan of gold plated guns but the gold plated Sterling is just plain cool. Now I'm imagining some blinged out Stormtrooper carrying one.

  • @Ruija27
    @Ruija27 6 місяців тому +1

    They've some chrome-plated AKs in service in Finland with military bands

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner2229 6 місяців тому +13

    There is "bling" and there is "grossly vulgar". Both are apt in this case, not only for the weapon but for anyone who would choose to own one.

    • @jasonsolis5416
      @jasonsolis5416 6 місяців тому

      Are you 60+ years old? Who talks like that, what are you even saying? Just enjoy the weapon, jeez. You sound like an old fart.

  • @Skorpychan
    @Skorpychan 6 місяців тому

    This would be the Re: Loaded exhibition at the Leeds museum?
    I was going to do a trip up north this year anyway, so I guess you can have a day to hit that up.

  • @MattHaleUK
    @MattHaleUK 6 місяців тому +20

    There's a gold AK on the wall of a particular British regiment's entrance hall. Can't remember what the legend said, but it was a personal weapon of someone in Saddam's circle. It was very worn and clearly heavily used by the person. A deeply unimpressive object with a dirrrrty past.

  • @k24civic
    @k24civic 6 місяців тому +1

    I love they gold plated a damn Yugo magazine 😂😂

  • @skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch
    @skinwalkerhiddenvalleyranch 6 місяців тому +1

    Them Bulgarian AKK bakelite handguards tho ❤

  • @rett12
    @rett12 6 місяців тому

    Why is the top of the Handguard backwards!??!

  • @UnosRecens
    @UnosRecens 6 місяців тому +1

    Too bad you did;t disassemble it, I would love to see how does the bolt looks like, is it all golden or just the visible parts? Is piston also gold?

  • @josedorsaith5261
    @josedorsaith5261 6 місяців тому

    It looks very well-balanced. i wonder how well it cycles?