If big corporations (truly) think "America is racist" overall then they would seem to be shooting themselves in the foot by publicly going against that grain?
So true! I didn't even know it was gay pride month. The only reason I never know gay pride month exists is when everyone and every company and advertisement is flaunting it and shoving directly in my face.
"In these trying times we here at Amazon want to support the most vulnernable. That's why we're donating one percent of every sale to black gay Corona virus victims because the only colour not on the rainbow is black". Or some other such nonsense that makes virtue signallers feel better about themselves and stops the race hustlers from running their shakedown racket on Bezos.
@Dave Whatever Your saying that mainstream media is deluded and dangerous or this Joe Rogan podcast sorry I didn't know which one you were pointing out lol
Exactly, fishy how this all happened off the back of Bernie almost getting the nomination again, plus the economic uncertainty arising from the pandemic.The corporations, via their media apparachiks set this whole BLM bullshit up.
It happens with everything. Any company: "look at how much we care about gay pride. We have changed our Twitter image, we wear multicoloured clothes etc. Please buy our product".
@@worldisfilledb Of course, because we've created a society where only one opinion on every issue is ever accepted at any one time. We live in a world where Drew Brees can't have a personal opinion on what things mean to him based on his own personal experience. Even an incredibly rich, talented man, beloved by his city for YEARS for the things he did for people after Hurricane Katrina couldn't avoid the outrage mob. If he can't have his own opinion, nobody can have an original thought in this country. It's a joke. This is literally how you create an idiocracy. Everything is sick and gross and terrible and stupid. If people can't have thoughts its gonna be more than a little difficult to fix a damn thing, even if anyone could actually articulate a problem properly, which we also can't. What a shitshow. Abandon reason and this is the kind of bullshit you get.
@JJoe The unspoken implication, is that the wealthiest nation in the world need not have any poverty, and that it's kept around for the purpose stated in the joke. But if you have to explain the joke, it will never be funny. Just sayin...
Somewhere I read this quote - tangentially relevant I suppose: "We live in a time of woke capitalism, where capitalists pretend to care about social justice issues to sell things to people who pretend to hate capitalism."
I would elaborate on the "people who pretend to hate capitalism". Rather perhaps they are indoctrinated to think that capitalism is the evil they must oppose to satisfy the pain and anguish in their lives, a pain that they do not know in which other direction to direct.
Yep. It's corporatism. Big Business holding hands with Big Government. Small business is the number one enemy. Coronavirus hurts small business the most, knocking out the competition so Amazon, Walmart, Google, etc can grow bigger. Corporations, run by elitists (or as they see themselves "our betters"), are effectively government agencies who then donate millions to activist organizations (BLM, etc) in order to pressure "social change" for a Progressive Fascist agenda (Equality of Outcome) thus bypassing Democratic Republicanism e.g. the voice of the people, - or as they see them "the ignorant, unwashed masses".
Such a blanket business statement, but it's never been more true. So sad how we are slowly becoming a society of butt hurt bitch babies. Soon breathing will be a crime unless you're a "visible minority".
"We're just like you. Keep buying our product." One of the best things a teacher ever told me was, "If there is a commercial for it, you don't need it."
@M C No, virtue signalling is "the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favour for certain political ideas or cultural happenings." You're welcome :)
@M C Promoting yourself as a decent human being is virtue signaling. Shaming others for not promoting themselves as a decent human being is virtue signaling.
@M C no being insincere about how much you care about one thing in order to get brownie points while blissfully ignoring other injustices is virtue signaling.
Yeh cool. But its always been that way. Have you not had a friend that was a staunch socialist at University and then makes something of their lives and still 'claims' to identify with liberals but is really a closet capitalist democrat. Its just what people do. Best to just stay safe and do your own thing. This whole idea that we are 'all in it together' is a load of smoke and mirrors.
@@lazenbytim People who actually work hard for their success stop being socialists because they understand that lazy people shouldnt benefit from their hard work. I tend to notice more successful people are more conservative/republican and the less successful are more liberal/democrat. This is my personal experience.
@@nateb4543 I'm surprised you would move to the right on this. Noam Chompsky has discussed this issue in much more detail and with data to back it up on the supposedly far left.
George carlin talked about these 15 - 20 years ago . "They will always talk about things that will split you so that they the rich can go to the bank "
REAL CHANGE in this country against Corporate America will never happen until Americans are no longer kept comfortable with instant gratification and a constant stream of consumption.
Yes very right, problem is, they know that completely. And it will be prepared for entirely. I mean look. The entire country is running around screaming black lives matter. When they're lives have had a greater share of matter then any other for.. 25 years maybe? That's freaky.. many important truths are turned on their head. Good chance for revolution
@@87FordMudder public services (like the police) with unions are bad, they protect the people serving from being responsible for how they treat the citizens. Unions with private businesses protect the workers from the greed of large corporations. Amazon doesn't want a union because they want to get away with paying their workers far less than other companies while maintaining terrible working conditions
I think more accurately: criticisms of liberals and the right, the solutions he offers are classically left-wing. The problem is that liberals have falsely redefined themselves as 'the left'
@MosDaring Christ. ActuBlue is a conduit company. It's essentially crowdfunding, like kickstarter. It doesn't go straight to Democrats, however, Democrats DO raise money through the platform. Also, why is no one talking about how conservatives essentially have the same thing in the for of WinRed. You know what the main difference is between the two? ActBlue makes their expenditures public and WinRed does not.
@@billweir1745 Show me a mob sponsored by "WinRed" or whatever the fuck you're trying to equivocate that is getting assloads of corporate money. Show me how many CEOs, board of directors, universities, celebrities are vocal in their support of said "legal" conduit. Your insane strawman attempts to deflect from the issue that right now, the party of the elite is clearly the Democrat party.
“We feel your pain. During these hard times, our company wants to assure you that we stand with you and have every intention of continuing to make a profit off of your purchases. We hereby guarantee to always do our best to publicly declare our support for whichever opinions will make you keep liking us. Because all we care about is money. Money money money. Money.”
And even with that, it’s all bullshit lol. Supply chain analysis proves that even if 1/20 of the chain is “green”, they slap the “environmentally friendship/green” logo on their products even when it’s still fucking up the environment with greenhouse gasses and water pollution.
Been going on for so long now, not sure what it will take for people to stop being easily deceived. Another issue these days is the hive mind mentality which suppresses free thought.
@@nickj8521 here we go with left v right.. u really think Trump got his money selling bibles and never screwed ANYBODY over? Have u seen those pix with his buddy Jeffrey Epstein? Or the Bushes? Etc... ALL of these millionaires are corrupt, no one gets that rich and powerful playing by the book, and they never get in trouble for NOT playing by the book cz of their powerful families
whenever i see a tweet from a large corporation about BLM and/or the protests, all i picture is the Mr Krabs interview meme; "so tell me, why did you suddenly decide to have an opinion on the BLM movement after years of silence?"--- 'MONEY :D'
@I gRape Babies Carl Jung famously described the relationship between consciousness and unconsciousness as "compensatory". Basically, one can have the power to dominate the other, when it comes to behavior. I personally think you are entirely correct to say that both always live in co-existance, yet consciousness would be useless, if it wouldn't also have a word to speak, when it comes to our behavior. And why shouldn't we be able to develop consciousness' compensatory power? Sure, there will always be a point, in which the unconscious can take control over the conscious, like breathing while drowning, but the difference between a disciplined and a non-disciplined person is as massive as remaining calm for several seconds with a piece of glowing coal in your hand and literally falling into a rage-induced temper tantrum, because someone on twitter disagrees with you. Even though we can never be 100% rational, we can sure have a monstrous impact on how close we can get to it. I wouldnt call that "side by side only". Its not just "only", in my opinion. The difference can be night and day!
You're partly right. The best thing we can do is think for ourselves and try not to see everything so black and white so we have control over our creative energy. When we get too caught up in our logic or emotions we pick a side and set a trap for ourselves where there are people in power who are aware of human nature to use that to their own advantage. You gotta be able to see the duality in everything to have a perspective that goes beyond what you don't see.
@I gRape Babies How does that even make sense? If I hate someone and kill him that is doing something driven by emotion. Or I can think through it and see that it is for the better of everyone to not kill that guy. That is using logic over emotion.
"It's much more about class than race" Bless this man. I've known this since I was a child. If you see a difference between a trailer park and the projects... You're asleep.
Same. Been banging on this for years. Sanders sees it as an income equality issue, which is very much linked. In any case, the USA needs big reform if it doesn't want to end up worse that it already is.
@@FlutterMouse But in what way does that MATTER? If you're a black millionaire and I'm a white meth addict, who cares what I think? Or, put another way, there's plenty of trailer trash that thinks they're better than lily white Paris Hilton too, how's that working out for em?
@@gregsimoes8645 It matters because those trailer park people VOTE! ...and do so against their interests because republicans/conservatives "speak" to them more. The right is more guilty of identity politics because there's no substance behind their policies for everyone making less than six figures. The left supports marriage equality, progressive taxes, reform of racial disparities in policing, expanded healthcare, etc... some of that is identity politics but there's at least some substantive case to be made for the constituents benefiting from those policies. At least on the left someone like Sanders or Yang can put points on the board and challenge the other wings of the left's political party. At least there's a debate. On the right? Even questioning the distribution of income and lack of income mobility compared to other countries is sacrilegious.
I've said it many times before and I'll likely say it until I die: the wealthy NEED poor people to remain poor in order for their wealth to remain 'wealth.' Money does not buy goods and services. That's an illusion. They are one and the same. Goods and services are brought to market through human hands and human will. Doesn't matter if you're paying for a massage or the oil used in the massage -- neither is there without the human beings paid to provide. And as such, money only buys one thing. Labor. It buys the will of the people. Plain and simple. And when you look into how and why this is the case, you see very clearly that poverty is the strongest tool available to force people to do your bidding. It's VERY difficult to convince the man who has everything to waste his life away at a factory. They can afford to decline. But it's easy to convince a poor man to take that same job as it's better than their alternative of nothing. We can see all around us this one truth: the will of a person is much cheaper when they're poor. And as a result, poverty is leveraged against the public to allow the wealthy to remain powerful. Because they're truly interwoven. After all, the power of the wealthy exists solely in that pocket. The power of their wealth IS the ability to buy the will of others. That's what wealth does. That's what it's for. And so by assisting the common man and distributing wealth to those "in need", you're not only reducing your own labor pool and reducing the money you have, but you're also reducing the POTENCY of the money you do have. Because if you can no longer convince the public to perform for you, your wealth no longer matters. As such, there's an inherent interest in sustaining the potency of that wealth. It just so happens to come at the cost of the general population. It breeds corruption in and of itself. Edit: of course humanity is more complex than that. But in an open capitalist market, the motivation to perform labor is born of two specific circumstances -- either a desire to perform that labor, or a desire / need for the payment 'earned' through the labor. In simpler terms, a person will work because they like the work and they want to do it, or because they like and or need the compensation for doing so. That need for compensation is an incredible tool for the wealthy. Because even in a utopian circumstance where everyone is performing a job they love, you as a wealthy man can't be certain that all of your favorite services will be provided. You can't control a market driven to fruition solely through desire. But with enough poor people desperate for compensation, suddenly all markets can be easily maintained. And you get to capitalize even more on the wealth disparity. So unfortunately for the common man, there are many reasons why it remains in the best interest of the ruling class to maintain poverty. And as such you can be certain that it's engineered on some level.
Joe Rogan: "Amazon is dropping those bricks off..." Jeff Bezos to Amazon board: "Quick let's buy Spotify these guys are on to us..." CNBC: "Amazon just announced it's purchase of Spotify....." Joe Rogan: "Shiit.....WTF just happened?" Alex Jones: "Told yah pal, now do you believe me when I say inter-dimensional aliens?"
If you owned your own company and relied on it to feed your family, wouldnt you want it to be successful? Wouldnt you do whats necessary to ensure its success?
Its not about money!! Its about power!!! Money is a mean to obtaining power. People like Bezos have a vision for the way the world should work. Stop thinking its just about lining their pockets and living luxurious lifestyles!! That's for millionaires, not BILLIONAIRES
Everytime the girl started talking, I wanted her to shut up so bad. The guy knew wtf he was talking about, she ignored basically everything he said and went RIIIIIGHT back to what she was saying the first time she started talking
@@PluckyD Social media is not left-leaning in any way that matters (i.e. economically). In fact social media is capitalism par excellence. Social media extracts surplus value in the form of data generated by us, the users. Sites will then sell that data (our labor) to turn a profit. It is exactly as Marx describes but worse because we do not earn a wage for the value that we create. The trick is that we are both the workers and the consumers, and that is the only reason using social media is free, because the users create the value. So it really seems like you are the one who missed the point. Corporations like facebook use "culturally-left" ideals to obscure their economic relations.
Sagar: Amazon and Citigroup are pretending to support the George Floyd protests so we cant focus our ire on them and how they contribute to the majority of these problems we are facing. Joe: Really? I think they just want PR points to make a profit. Me: Why not both?
PR points for profit? Not exactly coz it could go either way. There are people who are calling for the boycott of Amazon because of its stance on "Black lives matter". However, its stance throws the progressives off the course and turn the attention/discussion towards identity politics. The liberals will side with Amazon and that makes it easy for the media to showcase the progressives as the "crazy ones"
Yeah I think it's simply PR tactics, but what he's saying about the class divisions and shifts of attention are a direct result of what they are/aren't doing.
Saagar: Amazon and Citigroup wants to split the country. Rogan: Really? I think they just want PR points. This level of nuance, though elementary, is totally missing in mainstream media.
They're not idiots and they're not missing it. Large multimedia companies can make just as much money as other large companies in other sectors. Thereby, it places them in the same lets call it a "wealth control seat" as a company like Citi, Nike, Amazon, etc.
@@owenferrara there's also vested interest for them in that they need to play nice with them in order to keep their show going. Rogan on the other hand couldn't care less. His whole set up is just him and a few dudes to keep it running and he makes all the money he needs doing it
Agreed. They never really showed that these big companies want to divide the country though. They really just argued that these companies are indifferent to social causes and will posture to the left if it means they can go on with business as usual. Placating the side that is generally more dubious of big corporations makes sense. I think we also have to accept there can be people in these corporations that do sincerely sympathize with leftist causes but somehow don't see themselves as part of the problem. We're all hypocrites. It's the, "I'm just doing my job.", mentality that let's people separate their actions with the consequences.
Large media/ social media doesn’t care if you know they’re bias. They are content on dumbing down and pumping short short messages to youth. Their children will be drones. Hide/ ban opposition. Mantra and hate are their viewers new tools. Greatest tools for communication in history of man, yet they’re using it for propaganda
@@smokingcrab2290 I mean there kinda is a race issue on all levels. Black people are disproportionately in jail. The education system is against asians. Minorities overall don't have things good.
@@Leb149 To be clear, the whole Asian thing, that favors Asians over white people. The problem with "racial issues" is at this point it's not about people just hitting black people, it's about systems in place having a disparate impact on certain populations. I mean you bring up the Asian issue, the problem is ironical with Affirmative Action which was put in place to help up minorities. Not because they hate Asians, but they just perform too well that if a black kid who scores less than an Asian applies to an elite college, odds are the black kid will get in due to quota issues.
Its mostly a socio-economical issue that effects black people at a higher rate due to racial inequality of the past. Black comminuinties continue to struggle becasue bad schools and little to no economic oppertunities which are carry overs of Jim Crowe laws and various other legislation, that while being scrubbed from the books offers, no work was done to help build them up. Honestly we as a society need to accept this fact and do what we can in trying to bring better education and businesses to these communities, maybe through the use of tax breaks for businesses and spending more on education instead of the militarization of our local police. But also people need to not resort to looting and rioting as all they are doing is hurting themselves, and for the love of god stop listening to social activists who are only seeking to enflame racial tensions so they can justify their existance, as all that will do is scare away any chance of people trying to work on helping these communities... just my opinion.
@Daniel G Look what up? that income or wealth is correlated with racial prejudice? Is that somehow supposed to prove that poor whites actually routinely side with blacks?
@@mr_knowitall There is a lot of racial tension/hatred in the US. However, that problem is at the forefront. The larger issue is that poor communities of all backgrounds are being screwed over by corporations. Blacks and latinos fight constantly, too.
Anytime I talk with someone about everything going on all I say is that all we can do is start supporting small business and make sacrifices stop giving the corporations all of our money.
Thats the issue. They don’t. They keep talking trash about amazon with a prime subscription under their name ... they expect the government to the change for them. People have the power to bring down such companies, just not the will.
But then doesn't some distribution or production just get big instead? Capitalism always demands economies of scale so someone will always be out there getting bigger to get cheaper.
People don’t support small businesses in general because the products cost a lot more. So many people are broke.... so you want them to pay more for things they don’t even have the money to spend anyway? Huh?! 🤔
Wow this guy freaking killed it. Everything he says its 100% on point and stuff I've been preaching for years. Love how well spoken he is too! Surprised I never heard of him before.
@@RC-qu8xg it'll be too late most likely. The shadow government has done a great job distracting America from some pretty big corruption bombshells the past two days. I'll ask you, and anyone for that matter; What two testimonials of former government officials would help unmask their lies if the masses knew?
Sensitive issue, he’s likely trying to really watch what he says. One small misstep can result in him being canceled. Having just signed a deal worth like $100 Million, I don’t really blame him.
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“This is the nail in the coffin of retail” so true. This podcast episode is one of the best I’ve heard - being civil with disagreements and discussing possible solutions/outcomes with the chaos we’re in.
Just like what democrat eliot engel literally said a few days ago, he was caught on a hot mic saying "if I didnt have a primary I wouldnt gaf". Look it up.
Disney panders to SJW in the states and erases the black guy from the star wars posters in China because the Chinese dont like black people. The nba also do the same thing.
Brown and yellow people are more likely to be richer than African Americans. Nigerians and Jamaicans do better than AAs disproving systemic racism. 9:00 The woman repeats the old lies. Nobody is talking about how welfare destroyed Black America. BLM is the nail in the coffin for a meritocracy in the USA. That’s now seen as racist.
Jason Baird No, he said corporations use the smokescreen of woke identity politics to hide their direct involvement in the disenfranchisement of minorities.
Man, the Saagar guy hit it on the head for me. Class is the issue, not race. I've been feeling that internally for a while and I couldn't verbalize it.
EVERYONE has been a meat machine in the cogs of Industrialists since the industrial revolution. It's done well to update itself and paint a nice facade. JRE has had guests talking about Corporate guys who just work and work and work. So the world now is on their same work ethic. To make them money round the clock. Time is money. (I guarantee 95% of anyone reading this does not want to work 8-10 hour shifts and would like to be able to stay at home to work on that one home project they haven't been able to get to BECAUSE THEY HAVE A JOB) The enemy of humanity around the world is corporation. I think the American protests of today are young being being misled by these same corporations. (as evidenced here by Mr. Saagar). Everyone understands the plight of the modern Black Community, cause we're literally all living in the same class and see it frequently, and hell may even be guilty of unwittingly participating in this. That this system does specifically harbor prejudice towards blacks, because of historical prejudices that are just at the sub-strait of political and communal structure by means of white people cloying for their families own class, not race. Just so happens white people are the majority so they're forced into this racial class division despite harboring no actual ill-will based on color. Shit rolls down hill. The majority: obv whites, have the largest weight and are trying to get their head above the cloud of stench. And they're more likely to get that whiff of good air. Unfortunately the weight of just simply being a majority weighs on the minorities who share the same pit.
@@kab9603 a lot of people are ingrates and just shitty, but helping others can bright someone else day, and definetly leave a better world that the one you have before. You dont help because you are wating for a response or a thanks, but because you can and you will. Helpful people are less, and angry awful people are more, but doing good deeds makes this world a better place. Action and attraction, I think that will help in turning more people to be nicer.
Or... A marketing tactic to make more money. Idk why there has to be more to it than that. The culture as a whole supports certain things so it's good business to also support them.
@@TheRevoltecs you dont like the how they do it (the method), but what the guy in the blue suit is saying is, the why they do it (the reason) is much worse. It is calculated, divisive, manipulative and rooted in greed.
Slacktivism is just feel good activism. They don’t actually move their body’s out into the street for the causes they claim they believe in. They just want to look like they do.
@@godemperorpepe u must have a masters in psychology or some shit dude, congratulations...get out of here ..you don't know why someone does a certain thing.
Best comment I've ever heard from Joe Rogan: Amazon is probably dropping off those pallets of bricks in front of brick & mortar stores to encourage people to "help get rid" of brick & mortar stores. Of course that helps Amazon's online business!
Life Connoisseur Not gonna lie, it has merit to it, though. I mean, they are the largest mobile delivery service right now, and their only competition is getting consistently destroyed and looted. This puts workers out of a job, and possibly at an Amazon Fulfillment Center, not to mention the time to rebuild the stores and get merch back in stock. Plus, the loss of investing from people worrying about more BLM movements that have carried a tail of looters each time. And that Irony with Nike is hilarious.
Nah, they don't need to do that. Their warehouses are located in suburbs, where they have the space to build. They're already safe. Now, if more Amazon delivery vehicles were hijacked by rioters, then they'd not be so in favor of BLM.
Only problem is he lies and ignores truth. Like that part about how the reason the civil war started wasn't about states right to slavery. Because that was definitely a big factor. I'm from the UK and even i know that.
@@LoneSloth42 "I'm from the UK and even I'm told that." fixed that for you. Why would anyone care what someone from the UK thinks when their thoughts are controlled by the state?
Consider for a moment that we've entered an election cycle where perpetuating instability through any means, up to and including instigating civil unrest, benefits one faction. Then consider that ending instability through any means, up to and including martial law and military force, benefits the opposing faction. Now, understand that chronologically speaking, the playoffs just started.
Anthony Santoro I have been considering that lately. It’s the politics of chaos and order-red and blue, yin and yang. People with family and a stake in the game want order. The people out on the streets, and the powerful who could benefit from them, are ok with this chaos.
That is what I never got about the anti-mask protests from conservatives. If the virus had been contained and defeated in 45-60 days, which it could have easily been done by preventing the transmission to new uninfected people. The victory that would have given the current administration would have be unstoppable.
I didn’t know companies like Amazon had done this.. But aren’t they guilty of exploiting poor people in China.. This is the most inflammatory thing to happen this year so far, and that is fucking saying something.
The argument that Donald Trump is a racist is my best example of this that I repeated point out to my friends. I have heard many good and bad things against him coming up in my life but I was not prepared when the MSM flipped the switch one day in 2015 one day and he was suddenly the pre-eminent Racist Overlord of the USA. Growing up, people either liked, hated or were just aware of Donald Trump for most of his career, yet I can't recall him being depicted this way even when he had public spats with Obama. Then one fateful elevator ride at Trump Tower and suddenly, "everybody" just agreed he was this big racist asshole. I mean he is an asshole but racist? They didn't even try to convince people they just said it. Repeatedly. Every day, on every station and too many people just accepted it as a fact. Mind boggling!
His point is that the corporations are diverting the conversation to race instead of class/corporate power in the marketplace and politics. That we can help everyone if we start talking about the way they treat their workers and preventing them from continuing with unethical business practices. She followed by saying race and class are inseparable and then went on to take the BLM approach, which is the same approach major corporations are taking, moving the focus back to race, while acknowledging his viewpoint. They aren’t diametrically “opposed”, as someone said, but she did in fact dismiss the point of what he was talking about to move the focus back to race. I laughed when she was saying “not a left company”. Woman! This is exactly where politics comes in with a company! The left focuses the conversation around identity politics, while the right says, you’re missing the bigger picture or the root of the problem. The companies like that the conversation is focused around identity politics, as it’s not on the real issues, which allows them to make more money at the expense of their worker’s. OF COURSE IT MAKES THEM A LEFTIST COMPANY! The politics of the whole thing is EXACTLY what makes them a leftist/regressive company. Push the feel good politics and public relations stunts to keep focus from the real issues. I said it in another clip of a different part of this discussion, and I’ll say it again, this woman is so disconnected... the lens she’s looking through to view the issues is always, “Yes, that’s a good point, let me continue to bring back the identitarian perspective that you just debunked/shut down with your argument, but yes I agree with you.” Nah, you just dismissed the argument and said I agree. It’s like, I’m about to bulldoze your homes, let me hear what you think... Okay, I hear your concerns about why that’s not a good idea, and they’re very good points, so let’s bulldoze your homes.
@@MochiMoose this should have been top comment.. poor fellow went on explaining how big corporations have divided the country of their own good by providing historical details, only to have his points dismissed by childish points of calling it "they are doing it for branding"
@@pman1357 They aren't opposing points. She is saying they are using the Identity Politics front to distract from the underlying issues, which is his point
His area of expertise is just different than yours. I'm sure you are more educated in other areas of life than other people as well, either though formal education or life experiences.
Nah they only fund the protests coz the longer that goes on, the more stores are burnt. Why would they waste their money on other small competitors who are literally insignificant to these billionaires? They ain't gonna get recognized for it but by putting popular slogans all over their website, they sure know what they're doing.
Justin Thomas... Rogan is progressive, he changes with the times when things become more clear. Which is exactly what we all need to do. As we are educated and enlightened, we move to be a better human.
@@bharris010486 what u just said has absolutely nothing to do with the topic..it's been long known that the elites are pushing to restructure society into a one world government, and economy. George Soros is the creator of BLM. Read the Georgia Guidestones.
It's a very narrow minded, mind set, these people genuinely think these companies/people actually give a fuck but really they don't if they did they would have supported BLM from the jump but they didn't UNTILL it grew out of control and they saw an opportunity for them to gain something out of it.
People see it. You're just looking in the wrong direction. There are many people who are able to perceive past the optics and are doing their best to convey that.
Thats part of the problem tho. They talk about SO MUCH, that you cant take them seriously, even when they are right. You cry wolf so many times, why should ppl listen when you do it again? Not you particularly, but in general.
Finally someone gets it. It's really silly seeing how many conservatives here who say this guy is spot on, are essentially agreeing with a critical aspect of Marxist analysis - the very thing that they have been brainwashed to think that PROMOTES identity politics. It's just plain ridiculous how so many conservatives are so foolish as to get their info about other ideologies and philosophies from right wing radio and youtube personalities, and refuse to actually get themselves educated on things they could very well find serious value in, but only if they put down propaganda and pick up a book, maybe listen to some marxist lectures for once. I honestly think it's past most of them.
@@ufodeath Marxism does indirectly promote identity politics, as the followers of Marxism place a higher value on the group identity and which group you're a part of, as opposed to individual identity. Marxism is a fairly daft ideology though, as it's been proven demonstrably that that way of thinking doesn't translate at all into the macro scale
A lot of what Saagar said is difficult for first time listeners to understand, but if ya watch The Hill Rising more y’all will understand what he’s saying more and more. It’s a different perspective but definitely something a lot of people don’t realize.
My three favorite UA-camrs all in one studio. This morning on Rising Krystal hinted that viewers would soon learn why she and Saagar have been doing the show remotely that past few days.
At this point I’m tired of this 2 party system, I don’t wana see us fighting anymore I just want us all to be at peace. This is getting outta hand, so many of us are about to die real soon
The amount of parties isn't the problem. The UK has like 7 large parties and they have many of the same problems. The parties can be infiltrated and taken over by ideologues and that is exactly what happens. It's not Republican vs Democrat. That's want the media wants you to think. The truth is, it's Globalism vs Nationalism. The Constitution stands in the way of the globalist agenda and they are going to do everything they can to remove that obstacle.
Disney: We care about Black Lives Matter
Also Disney: Sure we can edit those black people out of our movies and posters China.
More like racist white people out of the movies
@@linliuqiang92 ?
Lol chinas a different story. You’re only allowed to be right handed.
@@krisdawn611 right handed? What are you talking about?
Zippity Do Da plays
60 years later "that's racist"
Disney: we'll ban it!
Big corporations sees: B.L.M as "Bottom line matters".
Big Lying Monopoly
Good one!
If big corporations (truly) think "America is racist" overall then they would seem to be shooting themselves in the foot by publicly going against that grain?
We all think that.
That must be it! They are confused by what BLM stands for! No wonder they keep damaging their bottom line with woke stuff!
Companies are trying hard to decide if they want to base this month's marketing around gay pride, coronavirus, or blacklivesmatter
Yeah, the corporations seemed to have skipped Pride this year and gone all in on race.
black gay coronavirus lives matter
@@YoshiBugatti Dammit that's funny.
So true! I didn't even know it was gay pride month. The only reason I never know gay pride month exists is when everyone and every company and advertisement is flaunting it and shoving directly in my face.
"In these trying times we here at Amazon want to support the most vulnernable. That's why we're donating one percent of every sale to black gay Corona virus victims because the only colour not on the rainbow is black".
Or some other such nonsense that makes virtue signallers feel better about themselves and stops the race hustlers from running their shakedown racket on Bezos.
This the type of conversations you’ll never see on traditional media😂😂
@Isaac Hernandez the latter
@Dave Whatever Your saying that mainstream media is deluded and dangerous or this Joe Rogan podcast sorry I didn't know which one you were pointing out lol
@Isaac Hernandez Both.
@Dave Whatever ???
@B olton Took a clowns name...
The only color "corporations" care about is GREEN...
Well in america its more likely blue with a sticker
@@EmmerTheGoat666 Blue-Green!
At the end of the day it's all about the Benjamins.
Exactly, fishy how this all happened off the back of Bernie almost getting the nomination again, plus the economic uncertainty arising from the pandemic.The corporations, via their media apparachiks set this whole BLM bullshit up.
philr182 100%
It happens with everything. Any company: "look at how much we care about gay pride. We have changed our Twitter image, we wear multicoloured clothes etc. Please buy our product".
Nailed it.
this 100%
A lot of normal people like you talking shit like you’re some angel would be doin the same shit
@@worldisfilledb Of course, because we've created a society where only one opinion on every issue is ever accepted at any one time. We live in a world where Drew Brees can't have a personal opinion on what things mean to him based on his own personal experience. Even an incredibly rich, talented man, beloved by his city for YEARS for the things he did for people after Hurricane Katrina couldn't avoid the outrage mob. If he can't have his own opinion, nobody can have an original thought in this country. It's a joke. This is literally how you create an idiocracy. Everything is sick and gross and terrible and stupid. If people can't have thoughts its gonna be more than a little difficult to fix a damn thing, even if anyone could actually articulate a problem properly, which we also can't. What a shitshow. Abandon reason and this is the kind of bullshit you get.
@@michaelrudolph7003 Timing is everything also. Had Brees made the comments he did 1 day prior to Floyds death, nobody would have bat an eye really.
"Poverty is a tool the rich use to scare the shit out of the middle class, and keep them showing up for work every day." - George Carlin
@JJoe The unspoken implication, is that the wealthiest nation in the world need not have any poverty, and that it's kept around for the purpose stated in the joke. But if you have to explain the joke, it will never be funny. Just sayin...
Lol “middle class”
People want to work for their toys and food.
Somewhere I read this quote - tangentially relevant I suppose: "We live in a time of woke capitalism, where capitalists pretend to care about social justice issues to sell things to people who pretend to hate capitalism."
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Amen. It's ridiculous how many people are complain against capitalism on... wait for it... FACEBOOK
I would elaborate on the "people who pretend to hate capitalism".
Rather perhaps they are indoctrinated to think that capitalism is the evil they must oppose to satisfy the pain and anguish in their lives, a pain that they do not know in which other direction to direct.
Because they are consolidating their monopolies and destroying the remnants of the ma and pa’s
Yup. Hence the aunt Jemima label “backlash”.. excuses to out the colors from modern society.
Truth bomb
MAGA 101. Shocker.
What?
Yep. It's corporatism. Big Business holding hands with Big Government. Small business is the number one enemy. Coronavirus hurts small business the most, knocking out the competition so Amazon, Walmart, Google, etc can grow bigger. Corporations, run by elitists (or as they see themselves "our betters"), are effectively government agencies who then donate millions to activist organizations (BLM, etc) in order to pressure "social change" for a Progressive Fascist agenda (Equality of Outcome) thus bypassing Democratic Republicanism e.g. the voice of the people, - or as they see them "the ignorant, unwashed masses".
Employee: What should put on the company's social media?
Boss: LGBT, BLM, some fluffy humanitarian shit. The kids love that.
Such a blanket business statement, but it's never been more true. So sad how we are slowly becoming a society of butt hurt bitch babies. Soon breathing will be a crime unless you're a "visible minority".
Dominoes37 Kittens, everybody loves kittens!
Ya except those kids dont work so have no money so they should cater to the hard working American and those subjects are not it
All-IN Offroad ironically saying the dumbest thing you can think of - nice, I like it :D
@@Allinoffroad what do you do for a living? Clearly something super important from your arrogance, right?
"We're just like you. Keep buying our product."
One of the best things a teacher ever told me was, "If there is a commercial for it, you don't need it."
Very true
I've heard a similar phrase 'if they are trying to sell it you don't need to buy it'
Not sure if I agree with that statement 100%. I see commercials for toilet paper.
Lmfao, there are commercials for essentially every product out there. This is dumb.
SovietWalrus1 you don’t need it
I love how "the revolution" has corporate sponsorship
its so phony
Corporate patches on their Antifa uniforms.
If that's the message you got from this vid then you weren't paying attention
Virtue signalling and the death of many small businesses.
@M C Do you even care about any other race when it comes to hate crimes?
@@nicholasclarence Obviously he does not. He answers with a rhetorical questions that reeks of a superiority complex.
@M C No, virtue signalling is "the popular modern habit of indicating that one has virtue merely by expressing disgust or favour for certain political ideas or cultural happenings." You're welcome :)
@M C Promoting yourself as a decent human being is virtue signaling. Shaming others for not promoting themselves as a decent human being is virtue signaling.
@M C no being insincere about how much you care about one thing in order to get brownie points while blissfully ignoring other injustices is virtue signaling.
Corporations virtue-signal the hot issues to appear to be 'for the people' and 'social justice', but all they want is sales. It's is at least 95% PR.
Yeh cool. But its always been that way. Have you not had a friend that was a staunch socialist at University and then makes something of their lives and still 'claims' to identify with liberals but is really a closet capitalist democrat. Its just what people do. Best to just stay safe and do your own thing. This whole idea that we are 'all in it together' is a load of smoke and mirrors.
@Nicolás Löwy Public Relations.
@@lazenbytim People who actually work hard for their success stop being socialists because they understand that lazy people shouldnt benefit from their hard work. I tend to notice more successful people are more conservative/republican and the less successful are more liberal/democrat. This is my personal experience.
black people know they don't care
Krognak BINGO
The guy in the blue suit is absoloutly spot on and i agree with everything he said this should be no1 on twitter.
I used to be centrist (now apparently mid right) but am desparate for news without an agenda. These two provide the best place for news out there
Check out the Hill he and her are on everyday
I have never heard of these two until today. I'm familiar with the Hill but I just became a fan. This guy knows his sh*t! 💯
“The Hill” is the most balanced centrist news... anywhere.
@@nateb4543 I'm surprised you would move to the right on this. Noam Chompsky has discussed this issue in much more detail and with data to back it up on the supposedly far left.
The more brick and mortar stores that burn down, the more business for Amazon.
F Amazon, i got a lifetime ban from commenting on a key fob i bought "do not buy this cheap chinese junk" we know who Bezos is rollin with
George carlin talked about these 15 - 20 years ago . "They will always talk about things that will split you so that they the rich can go to the bank "
It's unfortunate Joe and Krystal want to accept a more simpler reality. Saagar was spot on
also love george carlin
It's been going on as long as some people have had power over others.
Yep ❤️
REAL CHANGE in this country against Corporate America will never happen until Americans are no longer kept comfortable with instant gratification and a constant stream of consumption.
EXACTLY
This deserves more likes
This right here!!! Going to screenshot and post on FB.
@@chrisoher same
Yes very right, problem is, they know that completely. And it will be prepared for entirely.
I mean look. The entire country is running around screaming black lives matter. When they're lives have had a greater share of matter then any other for.. 25 years maybe? That's freaky.. many important truths are turned on their head. Good chance for revolution
I wouldn’t be shocked if Bezos was dumping those bricks to be honest.
Powers that are far above bezos are orchestrating this chaos
He ain't
who else can get any product anywhere and has their own transportation network?
More likely he's selling those weird cage things the bricks are in than placing them, but I get your point.
Shut up mane y’all are weird thinking cuz the dud got money he is the source of all evil 😂
I was just thinking how Amazon intimidates against unions, yet puts out how much it cares about blacks and how they are treated by the POLICE.
Police are unionized. They're natural enemies.
@@87FordMudder public services (like the police) with unions are bad, they protect the people serving from being responsible for how they treat the citizens. Unions with private businesses protect the workers from the greed of large corporations. Amazon doesn't want a union because they want to get away with paying their workers far less than other companies while maintaining terrible working conditions
Green Giant it’s so weird you think that they sincerely care about blm lol did you watch the video you’re commenting on
Saagar is just incredibly level headed. I’m so impressed by him. His criticisms of the left and the right are spot on.
Coming from Winston Churchill, I'm sure Saagar will be happy to hear that.
If you like him so much why don’t you marry him
Nah, they're Young Turk fanboys who fell upstairs into a daytime TV gig
weak...
I think more accurately: criticisms of liberals and the right, the solutions he offers are classically left-wing. The problem is that liberals have falsely redefined themselves as 'the left'
Nothing turns me off a brand more than when they get political in any direction...
I unsubbed from so many companies yesterday. And I'll keep doing it as long as they continue to choose sides.
Why? you don’t want a sock company lecturing you about how racist you are..
welcome to the real world, snowflake
Black Beard nah i dont support companies thtat bullshit people that they care about some issue.
And this is a part of the problem.
"Dance, puppets, dance!" - Corporate America
The only people dancing are liberal democrats...
"Dance, fucker, dance. Man, he never had a chance."
@@dakota481 Did you not take away anything from the video?
@MosDaring Christ. ActuBlue is a conduit company. It's essentially crowdfunding, like kickstarter. It doesn't go straight to Democrats, however, Democrats DO raise money through the platform. Also, why is no one talking about how conservatives essentially have the same thing in the for of WinRed. You know what the main difference is between the two? ActBlue makes their expenditures public and WinRed does not.
@@billweir1745 Show me a mob sponsored by "WinRed" or whatever the fuck you're trying to equivocate that is getting assloads of corporate money. Show me how many CEOs, board of directors, universities, celebrities are vocal in their support of said "legal" conduit. Your insane strawman attempts to deflect from the issue that right now, the party of the elite is clearly the Democrat party.
"Amazon Prime dropping off pallets of bricks" you may laugh now
“We feel your pain. During these hard times, our company wants to assure you that we stand with you and have every intention of continuing to make a profit off of your purchases. We hereby guarantee to always do our best to publicly declare our support for whichever opinions will make you keep liking us. Because all we care about is money. Money money money. Money.”
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JC Penney did the same thing lol. We support BLM so please keep that in mind while you shop!
@RDA TF you talking about
exactly my intuition here; smoke and mirrors. misdirection.
Intuition and innuendo are typical forms of evidence most valued by Bro Jogan viewers/listeners.
Kevin Sippel Jr Haha
As per usual. And people blame the puppets and not the puppetmasters behind the curtain. Just how those in power want it.
This guy looks like the final boss of the Spelling Bee
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lol
Funny, but he IS pretty smart.
The only color "Corporations" care about is green.
And even with that, it’s all bullshit lol. Supply chain analysis proves that even if 1/20 of the chain is “green”, they slap the “environmentally friendship/green” logo on their products even when it’s still fucking up the environment with greenhouse gasses and water pollution.
@@yahyamizel7633 i think he meant green as the color of banknotes
This man really just told Joe Rogan he needs to be more cynical
I think he was saying that to put him in the "mindset" of big corporations
and proceeded to say call Racism irrelevant in the conversation.
everybody in America needs to watch this. this is the biggest look over there, while I steal your wallet.
Been going on for so long now, not sure what it will take for people to stop being easily deceived. Another issue these days is the hive mind mentality which suppresses free thought.
@@GIitchclan12 ñ
That’s the left playbook bro
@@nickj8521 here we go with left v right.. u really think Trump got his money selling bibles and never screwed ANYBODY over? Have u seen those pix with his buddy Jeffrey Epstein? Or the Bushes? Etc...
ALL of these millionaires are corrupt, no one gets that rich and powerful playing by the book, and they never get in trouble for NOT playing by the book cz of their powerful families
whenever i see a tweet from a large corporation about BLM and/or the protests, all i picture is the Mr Krabs interview meme; "so tell me, why did you suddenly decide to have an opinion on the BLM movement after years of silence?"--- 'MONEY :D'
well if they don't they come for them too.
This guy knows what he's talking about.!!!! Class...and corporations are dividing the people ...
Kendall Jenner never showed up with the Pepsi 😂
What?
Kristoffer s couple years ago Kendall Jenner had a commercial of her bringing Pepsi to the protesters against racial injustice
@@teach9906 the brand ad that was ahead of its time
@@demonvictim BAHAHA
wait for it
Cool heads prevail. Logic over emotion. Can’t control your emotions? Then other people will control you with your own emotions. Control your emotions.
I thought this was just an advertisement campaign, sorry, I was expecting something else and thank God
@I gRape Babies Carl Jung famously described the relationship between consciousness and unconsciousness as "compensatory". Basically, one can have the power to dominate the other, when it comes to behavior. I personally think you are entirely correct to say that both always live in co-existance, yet consciousness would be useless, if it wouldn't also have a word to speak, when it comes to our behavior. And why shouldn't we be able to develop consciousness' compensatory power? Sure, there will always be a point, in which the unconscious can take control over the conscious, like breathing while drowning, but the difference between a disciplined and a non-disciplined person is as massive as remaining calm for several seconds with a piece of glowing coal in your hand and literally falling into a rage-induced temper tantrum, because someone on twitter disagrees with you. Even though we can never be 100% rational, we can sure have a monstrous impact on how close we can get to it.
I wouldnt call that "side by side only". Its not just "only", in my opinion. The difference can be night and day!
@@Mercurystars4202 progressive economic policies are terrible
You're partly right. The best thing we can do is think for ourselves and try not to see everything so black and white so we have control over our creative energy. When we get too caught up in our logic or emotions we pick a side and set a trap for ourselves where there are people in power who are aware of human nature to use that to their own advantage. You gotta be able to see the duality in everything to have a perspective that goes beyond what you don't see.
@I gRape Babies How does that even make sense? If I hate someone and kill him that is doing something driven by emotion. Or I can think through it and see that it is for the better of everyone to not kill that guy. That is using logic over emotion.
"It's much more about class than race"
Bless this man. I've known this since I was a child. If you see a difference between a trailer park and the projects... You're asleep.
Same. Been banging on this for years. Sanders sees it as an income equality issue, which is very much linked. In any case, the USA needs big reform if it doesn't want to end up worse that it already is.
Except the people in the trailer parks still think they're better than the Black people in the penthouse...
@@FlutterMouse But in what way does that MATTER? If you're a black millionaire and I'm a white meth addict, who cares what I think? Or, put another way, there's plenty of trailer trash that thinks they're better than lily white Paris Hilton too, how's that working out for em?
@@gregsimoes8645 It matters because those trailer park people VOTE! ...and do so against their interests because republicans/conservatives "speak" to them more. The right is more guilty of identity politics because there's no substance behind their policies for everyone making less than six figures. The left supports marriage equality, progressive taxes, reform of racial disparities in policing, expanded healthcare, etc... some of that is identity politics but there's at least some substantive case to be made for the constituents benefiting from those policies.
At least on the left someone like Sanders or Yang can put points on the board and challenge the other wings of the left's political party. At least there's a debate. On the right? Even questioning the distribution of income and lack of income mobility compared to other countries is sacrilegious.
@@Joe-ij6of I don't want to agree with your statement, but it's spot on sadly.
I've said it many times before and I'll likely say it until I die: the wealthy NEED poor people to remain poor in order for their wealth to remain 'wealth.'
Money does not buy goods and services. That's an illusion. They are one and the same. Goods and services are brought to market through human hands and human will. Doesn't matter if you're paying for a massage or the oil used in the massage -- neither is there without the human beings paid to provide. And as such, money only buys one thing. Labor. It buys the will of the people. Plain and simple.
And when you look into how and why this is the case, you see very clearly that poverty is the strongest tool available to force people to do your bidding. It's VERY difficult to convince the man who has everything to waste his life away at a factory. They can afford to decline. But it's easy to convince a poor man to take that same job as it's better than their alternative of nothing.
We can see all around us this one truth: the will of a person is much cheaper when they're poor. And as a result, poverty is leveraged against the public to allow the wealthy to remain powerful.
Because they're truly interwoven. After all, the power of the wealthy exists solely in that pocket. The power of their wealth IS the ability to buy the will of others. That's what wealth does. That's what it's for. And so by assisting the common man and distributing wealth to those "in need", you're not only reducing your own labor pool and reducing the money you have, but you're also reducing the POTENCY of the money you do have. Because if you can no longer convince the public to perform for you, your wealth no longer matters. As such, there's an inherent interest in sustaining the potency of that wealth. It just so happens to come at the cost of the general population.
It breeds corruption in and of itself.
Edit: of course humanity is more complex than that. But in an open capitalist market, the motivation to perform labor is born of two specific circumstances -- either a desire to perform that labor, or a desire / need for the payment 'earned' through the labor. In simpler terms, a person will work because they like the work and they want to do it, or because they like and or need the compensation for doing so. That need for compensation is an incredible tool for the wealthy. Because even in a utopian circumstance where everyone is performing a job they love, you as a wealthy man can't be certain that all of your favorite services will be provided. You can't control a market driven to fruition solely through desire. But with enough poor people desperate for compensation, suddenly all markets can be easily maintained. And you get to capitalize even more on the wealth disparity. So unfortunately for the common man, there are many reasons why it remains in the best interest of the ruling class to maintain poverty. And as such you can be certain that it's engineered on some level.
That was written extremely well! It all makes sense.
I somehow very much agree and disagree with this at the same time
We don't own money, money owns us.
Very articulate. I appreciate the time you took to write this up 👍🏼
Gerald Wiseman - I read everything you just wrote. Nice writing. 👍
Joe Rogan: "Amazon is dropping those bricks off..."
Jeff Bezos to Amazon board: "Quick let's buy Spotify these guys are on to us..."
CNBC: "Amazon just announced it's purchase of Spotify....."
Joe Rogan: "Shiit.....WTF just happened?"
Alex Jones: "Told yah pal, now do you believe me when I say inter-dimensional aliens?"
Eto Rawa 🤣🤣🤣
what a prophet Eto Rawa you goat! 😆 you should write a movie
What concerns me is that something like that is probable.
His guests had surprisingly fresh perspectives on the matter
you might like their news show
They have a great news show. "Rising". Watch it and you will hear a lot of fresh perspectives.
Money. Everything companies do is for money.
And we have the faces of slaveowners on our money. Quite ironic, isn't it?
If you owned your own company and relied on it to feed your family, wouldnt you want it to be successful? Wouldnt you do whats necessary to ensure its success?
Its not about money!! Its about power!!! Money is a mean to obtaining power. People like Bezos have a vision for the way the world should work. Stop thinking its just about lining their pockets and living luxurious lifestyles!! That's for millionaires, not BILLIONAIRES
Borsalino Kizaru hahahahahahaha
Everytime the girl started talking, I wanted her to shut up so bad. The guy knew wtf he was talking about, she ignored basically everything he said and went RIIIIIGHT back to what she was saying the first time she started talking
@9:23 - She should come on the show to debate Tim Pool sometime lol. She is blind AF if she thinks social media ISN'T left-leaning *smh*
@@PluckyD Social media is not left-leaning in any way that matters (i.e. economically). In fact social media is capitalism par excellence. Social media extracts surplus value in the form of data generated by us, the users. Sites will then sell that data (our labor) to turn a profit. It is exactly as Marx describes but worse because we do not earn a wage for the value that we create. The trick is that we are both the workers and the consumers, and that is the only reason using social media is free, because the users create the value. So it really seems like you are the one who missed the point. Corporations like facebook use "culturally-left" ideals to obscure their economic relations.
Sagar: Amazon and Citigroup are pretending to support the George Floyd protests so we cant focus our ire on them and how they contribute to the majority of these problems we are facing.
Joe: Really? I think they just want PR points to make a profit.
Me: Why not both?
It's entirely both.
Ding! Ding! Ding! Ding!
Yep, it's both haha
PR points for profit? Not exactly coz it could go either way. There are people who are calling for the boycott of Amazon because of its stance on "Black lives matter". However, its stance throws the progressives off the course and turn the attention/discussion towards identity politics. The liberals will side with Amazon and that makes it easy for the media to showcase the progressives as the "crazy ones"
Yeah I think it's simply PR tactics, but what he's saying about the class divisions and shifts of attention are a direct result of what they are/aren't doing.
Saagar: Amazon and Citigroup wants to split the country.
Rogan: Really? I think they just want PR points.
This level of nuance, though elementary, is totally missing in mainstream media.
They're not idiots and they're not missing it. Large multimedia companies can make just as much money as other large companies in other sectors. Thereby, it places them in the same lets call it a "wealth control seat" as a company like Citi, Nike, Amazon, etc.
@@owenferrara there's also vested interest for them in that they need to play nice with them in order to keep their show going. Rogan on the other hand couldn't care less. His whole set up is just him and a few dudes to keep it running and he makes all the money he needs doing it
Agreed. They never really showed that these big companies want to divide the country though. They really just argued that these companies are indifferent to social causes and will posture to the left if it means they can go on with business as usual. Placating the side that is generally more dubious of big corporations makes sense.
I think we also have to accept there can be people in these corporations that do sincerely sympathize with leftist causes but somehow don't see themselves as part of the problem. We're all hypocrites. It's the, "I'm just doing my job.", mentality that let's people separate their actions with the consequences.
Large media/ social media doesn’t care if you know they’re bias. They are content on dumbing down and pumping short short messages to youth. Their children will be drones. Hide/ ban opposition. Mantra and hate are their viewers new tools. Greatest tools for communication in history of man, yet they’re using it for propaganda
Splitting the country vs PR points...honestly, its most likely both.
This guy is spot on while there is a race issue its predominantly a class war
@@smokingcrab2290 I mean there kinda is a race issue on all levels. Black people are disproportionately in jail. The education system is against asians. Minorities overall don't have things good.
@@Leb149 yeah but alot of those people were arrested in a time when racism was a problem in the 80s the 90s.
@@Leb149 To be clear, the whole Asian thing, that favors Asians over white people. The problem with "racial issues" is at this point it's not about people just hitting black people, it's about systems in place having a disparate impact on certain populations. I mean you bring up the Asian issue, the problem is ironical with Affirmative Action which was put in place to help up minorities. Not because they hate Asians, but they just perform too well that if a black kid who scores less than an Asian applies to an elite college, odds are the black kid will get in due to quota issues.
Its mostly a socio-economical issue that effects black people at a higher rate due to racial inequality of the past. Black comminuinties continue to struggle becasue bad schools and little to no economic oppertunities which are carry overs of Jim Crowe laws and various other legislation, that while being scrubbed from the books offers, no work was done to help build them up. Honestly we as a society need to accept this fact and do what we can in trying to bring better education and businesses to these communities, maybe through the use of tax breaks for businesses and spending more on education instead of the militarization of our local police. But also people need to not resort to looting and rioting as all they are doing is hurting themselves, and for the love of god stop listening to social activists who are only seeking to enflame racial tensions so they can justify their existance, as all that will do is scare away any chance of people trying to work on helping these communities... just my opinion.
I guess that would depend on what race and class you belong to.
He's right: "It's really all about class." Thanks👍
If it's really just about class, then why is it that poor whites chronically side against blacks?
@Daniel G Look what up? that income or wealth is correlated with racial prejudice? Is that somehow supposed to prove that poor whites actually routinely side with blacks?
@@mr_knowitall There is a lot of racial tension/hatred in the US. However, that problem is at the forefront. The larger issue is that poor communities of all backgrounds are being screwed over by corporations. Blacks and latinos fight constantly, too.
@@mr_knowitall because they also controlled by their higher class masters.
Anytime I talk with someone about everything going on all I say is that all we can do is start supporting small business and make sacrifices stop giving the corporations all of our money.
Thats the issue. They don’t. They keep talking trash about amazon with a prime subscription under their name ... they expect the government to the change for them. People have the power to bring down such companies, just not the will.
thats good really good thank for that.
But then doesn't some distribution or production just get big instead? Capitalism always demands economies of scale so someone will always be out there getting bigger to get cheaper.
People don’t support small businesses in general because the products cost a lot more. So many people are broke.... so you want them to pay more for things they don’t even have the money to spend anyway? Huh?! 🤔
"and Nike still got all their shit looted"
lmao
Those poor joggers just wanted new sneakers to jog in...
@ fuck that was a good slogan lol
Just loot it... LMAO
good serves them right.
OK Joe's a comedian, amazon delivered those bricks lol
Besos personally lmao
@@blackjohnsnow9375 reminds me of that south park episode..
MeKong Two hour guaranteed delivery to a riot near you
“Who’s better at delivering sh*t than amazing”🤣🤣🤣lmao
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Wow this guy freaking killed it. Everything he says its 100% on point and stuff I've been preaching for years. Love how well spoken he is too! Surprised I never heard of him before.
They profit from us being disconnected.
This guy ^^ is a smart man, we need more of that
@@neveroffended45 he's spot on. The sad part is it works far too often
They want turmoil between us to control and profit
@@robertc6701 It's amazing people are starting to wake up and see the big picture 😢
@@RC-qu8xg it'll be too late most likely. The shadow government has done a great job distracting America from some pretty big corruption bombshells the past two days. I'll ask you, and anyone for that matter; What two testimonials of former government officials would help unmask their lies if the masses knew?
The most quiet I have heard joe ever be lol
Alexander Ellis this and Edward Snowden
@@SeanWhiteFNTheLabel And Sir Roger Penrose
Sensitive issue, he’s likely trying to really watch what he says. One small misstep can result in him being canceled. Having just signed a deal worth like $100 Million, I don’t really blame him.
@@wowmanthatsprettycool9959 f money
The first Jordan peterson podcast.. I swear joe didnt say a word for like an hour straight.
It's simple, United we stand, divided we fall.
Standing means taking actions. Everyone learn Notice of Liability to stop 5gee, vaccine mandates, corrupt politicians, you name it. Put them on notice that you are holding them personally liable and they will resign and the elite will have no one to do their dirty work. And grow as much food as you can in your neighborhood or a friend's yard, (this is free work out and grounding therapy too!), and shop small locally owned places or american made stuff on line. lenasfabulousfrequencies.com/ (Notice of Liability Guide)
Or as Ben Franklin said "at this point we either all hang together or we will surely all hang separately."
“This is the nail in the coffin of retail” so true. This podcast episode is one of the best I’ve heard - being civil with disagreements and discussing possible solutions/outcomes with the chaos we’re in.
Answer: $$$$
Also Answer: they don’t gaf bout u
Just like what democrat eliot engel literally said a few days ago, he was caught on a hot mic saying "if I didnt have a primary I wouldnt gaf". Look it up.
Disney panders to SJW in the states and erases the black guy from the star wars posters in China because the Chinese dont like black people. The nba also do the same thing.
It’s all a magic show.. misdirection. Look over here look over here, while we’re doing this over here..
The Kansas City Shuffle.
It's unfortunate Joe and Krystal want to accept a more simpler reality. Saagar was spot on
"Amazon Prime dropping off those bricks"... Me and Alexa found that very funny
"Amazon dropping off the bricks" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sagar : We need to fix the root cause of this problem.
All other talk show hosts and celebrities singing : Imagine there is no heaven
Never heard of this guy but it sounds like he's pretty smart
Check him out on "the hill" its pretty good
“Rising” on The Hill. The only news I can stomach watching anymore.
You wouldn't know since he kept getting interrupted.
Brown and yellow people are more likely to be richer than African Americans. Nigerians and Jamaicans do better than AAs disproving systemic racism. 9:00 The woman repeats the old lies. Nobody is talking about how welfare destroyed Black America. BLM is the nail in the coffin for a meritocracy in the USA. That’s now seen as racist.
He is smart. He does comedy, mma commentary and he has a very successful podcast too.
This man is incredibly intelligent and well read. He knows his shit
Alex Murphy First time listening to Joe Rogan speak?
He indirectly said diversity is our weakness
Jason Baird No, he said corporations use the smokescreen of woke identity politics to hide their direct involvement in the disenfranchisement of minorities.
Man, the Saagar guy hit it on the head for me. Class is the issue, not race. I've been feeling that internally for a while and I couldn't verbalize it.
I love when someone smart comes along and says what I was thinking, because I'm too stupid to word it lol
There not mutually exclusive, there are both race and class issues.
@@tylercsm4690 Class is WAY more dominant
EVERYONE has been a meat machine in the cogs of Industrialists since the industrial revolution. It's done well to update itself and paint a nice facade.
JRE has had guests talking about Corporate guys who just work and work and work. So the world now is on their same work ethic. To make them money round the clock. Time is money. (I guarantee 95% of anyone reading this does not want to work 8-10 hour shifts and would like to be able to stay at home to work on that one home project they haven't been able to get to BECAUSE THEY HAVE A JOB)
The enemy of humanity around the world is corporation. I think the American protests of today are young being being misled by these same corporations. (as evidenced here by Mr. Saagar). Everyone understands the plight of the modern Black Community, cause we're literally all living in the same class and see it frequently, and hell may even be guilty of unwittingly participating in this. That this system does specifically harbor prejudice towards blacks, because of historical prejudices that are just at the sub-strait of political and communal structure by means of white people cloying for their families own class, not race.
Just so happens white people are the majority so they're forced into this racial class division despite harboring no actual ill-will based on color. Shit rolls down hill. The majority: obv whites, have the largest weight and are trying to get their head above the cloud of stench. And they're more likely to get that whiff of good air. Unfortunately the weight of just simply being a majority weighs on the minorities who share the same pit.
"I have learned that the best way to lift one’s self up is to help some one else." Booker T. Washington
Can you dig it?
I sure helped a lot of pple that don't appear to give a shite. Not sure if this is true.
Kim Ber, it’s definitely NOT TRUE, and UTTER BS particularly in the context they’re using it.
@@kab9603 a lot of people are ingrates and just shitty, but helping others can bright someone else day, and definetly leave a better world that the one you have before.
You dont help because you are wating for a response or a thanks, but because you can and you will.
Helpful people are less, and angry awful people are more, but doing good deeds makes this world a better place. Action and attraction, I think that will help in turning more people to be nicer.
Its called pandering, and its absolutely a marketing tactic designed to distract.
Or... A marketing tactic to make more money. Idk why there has to be more to it than that. The culture as a whole supports certain things so it's good business to also support them.
@@seanb8628 just match it to what your market wants.
You want to educate, tell the truth
You want business, tell them what they already believe
Ugh. The guy was about to really crush it and then Joe interrupted him and squashed it.
It's called virtue signalling it's pointless slacktivism to show that how much you care and a good person you are.
@Foxhound i think u missed the point kid, virtual signalling is how they do that
@@TheRevoltecs you dont like the how they do it (the method), but what the guy in the blue suit is saying is, the why they do it (the reason) is much worse. It is calculated, divisive, manipulative and rooted in greed.
Slacktivism is just feel good activism. They don’t actually move their body’s out into the street for the causes they claim they believe in. They just want to look like they do.
@@godemperorpepe u must have a masters in psychology or some shit dude, congratulations...get out of here ..you don't know why someone does a certain thing.
Best comment I've ever heard from Joe Rogan:
Amazon is probably dropping off those pallets of bricks in front of brick & mortar stores to encourage people to "help get rid" of brick & mortar stores. Of course that helps Amazon's online business!
GE⭕️RGE $⭕️R⭕️$ payed people to drop off those PALLETS of BRICKS 🧱
Both conspiracy nuts
Life Connoisseur Not gonna lie, it has merit to it, though. I mean, they are the largest mobile delivery service right now, and their only competition is getting consistently destroyed and looted. This puts workers out of a job, and possibly at an Amazon Fulfillment Center, not to mention the time to rebuild the stores and get merch back in stock. Plus, the loss of investing from people worrying about more BLM movements that have carried a tail of looters each time.
And that Irony with Nike is hilarious.
Nah, they don't need to do that. Their warehouses are located in suburbs, where they have the space to build. They're already safe. Now, if more Amazon delivery vehicles were hijacked by rioters, then they'd not be so in favor of BLM.
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That Saagar rant is going viral
This guy is spot on holy shit. I’m not going to lie I was waiting for him to slip up the whole podcast.
once he started going off on the sociology departments of the 70's shit got real
Indian dude way smarter than both joe Rogan and the white lady put together.
@@thesam27hosh let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
@@SumanTiwariNamaste let's not fall behind. Keep up
Joe man, wow! Love that you entertain the tough conversations!! Keep it up!
Is he seriously implying that we live in a society?
Never heard about this guy before, but he's spittin some truth here. Its a class war and not a racial war people! Greetings from Germany💪🇩🇪
Check out the The Hill. That's where they post their news
The facts agree with you. That's why there is more whites killed by police but you would never know that if you only watched the mainstream media.
Greeting German! 😃🤙🏼
I am mixed German and English. I can see it's "marxism" but English people aren't as aware of it.
Please visit his channel. The Hill Rising. He is incredibly smart and intuitive!
Really like this guy, never heard or seen anything of him but good.
I like Saagar but Krystal gets annoying.
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlah then make babies with her
Only problem is he lies and ignores truth. Like that part about how the reason the civil war started wasn't about states right to slavery. Because that was definitely a big factor. I'm from the UK and even i know that.
Watch the Hill. They have a show
@@LoneSloth42 "I'm from the UK and even I'm told that." fixed that for you. Why would anyone care what someone from the UK thinks when their thoughts are controlled by the state?
I love this guy Sagar, absolute truth right there. It's always been about the class.
Consider for a moment that we've entered an election cycle where perpetuating instability through any means, up to and including instigating civil unrest, benefits one faction.
Then consider that ending instability through any means, up to and including martial law and military force, benefits the opposing faction.
Now, understand that chronologically speaking, the playoffs just started.
You get it. The age of extremities has arrived.
💯 this man knows his shit
Anthony Santoro I have been considering that lately. It’s the politics of chaos and order-red and blue, yin and yang. People with family and a stake in the game want order. The people out on the streets, and the powerful who could benefit from them, are ok with this chaos.
That is what I never got about the anti-mask protests from conservatives. If the virus had been contained and defeated in 45-60 days, which it could have easily been done by preventing the transmission to new uninfected people. The victory that would have given the current administration would have be unstoppable.
Gotta say it PLAYOFFS!!!!!!!
*rocks violently* “brought to you by Carl’s Jr., brought to you by Carl’s Jr., BROUGHT TO YOU BY CARL’S JR.!!!”
-idiocracy
Damn, I'd almost forgotten about that movie! Thanks for reminding me where to get electrolytes.
Idiocracy is a painfully accurate documentary.
BC hes like.... dumb and stuff
I'm shocked people think that others and businesses can change their views over night. People are so shallow in their thinking.
depends on the night
I didn’t know companies like Amazon had done this..
But aren’t they guilty of exploiting poor people in China..
This is the most inflammatory thing to happen this year so far, and that is fucking saying something.
@@osganmcsack2956 Indeed it does. How much broken glass is present during this night?
The argument that Donald Trump is a racist is my best example of this that I repeated point out to my friends.
I have heard many good and bad things against him coming up in my life but I was not prepared when the MSM flipped the switch one day in 2015 one day and he was suddenly the pre-eminent Racist Overlord of the USA.
Growing up, people either liked, hated or were just aware of Donald Trump for most of his career, yet I can't recall him being depicted this way even when he had public spats with Obama.
Then one fateful elevator ride at Trump Tower and suddenly, "everybody" just agreed he was this big racist asshole.
I mean he is an asshole but racist? They didn't even try to convince people they just said it. Repeatedly. Every day, on every station and too many people just accepted it as a fact.
Mind boggling!
It's been done over a lifetime.
Watch Out Of Shadows. It explains it well.
Everyone should read "Listen, Liberal: Or, What Ever Happened to the Party of the People?" by Thomas Frank
My man had a great, long point & they just dismissed it lmao. Sad times
well it was posted as a clip on youtube specifically for people to watch
They never dismissed it. They are talking about two different aspects of the issue that don’t oppose each other.
His point is that the corporations are diverting the conversation to race instead of class/corporate power in the marketplace and politics. That we can help everyone if we start talking about the way they treat their workers and preventing them from continuing with unethical business practices. She followed by saying race and class are inseparable and then went on to take the BLM approach, which is the same approach major corporations are taking, moving the focus back to race, while acknowledging his viewpoint. They aren’t diametrically “opposed”, as someone said, but she did in fact dismiss the point of what he was talking about to move the focus back to race.
I laughed when she was saying “not a left company”. Woman! This is exactly where politics comes in with a company! The left focuses the conversation around identity politics, while the right says, you’re missing the bigger picture or the root of the problem. The companies like that the conversation is focused around identity politics, as it’s not on the real issues, which allows them to make more money at the expense of their worker’s. OF COURSE IT MAKES THEM A LEFTIST COMPANY! The politics of the whole thing is EXACTLY what makes them a leftist/regressive company. Push the feel good politics and public relations stunts to keep focus from the real issues.
I said it in another clip of a different part of this discussion, and I’ll say it again, this woman is so disconnected... the lens she’s looking through to view the issues is always, “Yes, that’s a good point, let me continue to bring back the identitarian perspective that you just debunked/shut down with your argument, but yes I agree with you.” Nah, you just dismissed the argument and said I agree. It’s like, I’m about to bulldoze your homes, let me hear what you think... Okay, I hear your concerns about why that’s not a good idea, and they’re very good points, so let’s bulldoze your homes.
@@MochiMoose this should have been top comment.. poor fellow went on explaining how big corporations have divided the country of their own good by providing historical details, only to have his points dismissed by childish points of calling it "they are doing it for branding"
@@pman1357 They aren't opposing points. She is saying they are using the Identity Politics front to distract from the underlying issues, which is his point
Never heard of this guy but by God I already love him.
I didn't realize how dumb I was until I listened to this guy...What an educated conversation, wow..
I always follow the MONEY
At least you are searching for the truth.
His area of expertise is just different than yours. I'm sure you are more educated in other areas of life than other people as well, either though formal education or life experiences.
Pretty much
10000%
You have to watch Rising on UA-cam!
With Krystal and Saagar.
They are incredible !!!
Should put that money, and those given by celebrities to help the businesses affected by the looting/protests
Nah they only fund the protests coz the longer that goes on, the more stores are burnt. Why would they waste their money on other small competitors who are literally insignificant to these billionaires? They ain't gonna get recognized for it but by putting popular slogans all over their website, they sure know what they're doing.
Amazon being the best job in a rural area isn’t a conspiracy, it’s a fact of my life.
BLM: "Can we smash up mall?" Online retailters: "Be our guest!".
them protestor that was smashing all the stores were black white and latino
@@WilliamDailyReacts Yeah but all Antifa and blm
You should be an editor.
@@farzana6676 I'm glad you were there to identify each an every member. You're doing God's work.
Farzana Patel and police. Can’t forget about them!
Rising is on JRE my worlds have collided
It does my heart good to hear Krystal Ball dropping F-bombs! Don't agree with her generally, but at least she's real.
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Sagar, outstanding my brother!
I could listen to Saagar al day he’s got such a large amount of information in his brain .
I would watch him everyday if Krystal was absent! I can't stand her!
@@jcmohave2361 HAHAHAHAHA you're the problem with society today
I want to like him but every now and then he shits the bed hard by spouting right wing propaganda. He was a total bootlicker in the protest issue.
He’s a smarty pants
he talks a lot of shit
Why they keep cutting off my homie. He was spitting facts
joe rogan has been bought and paid for. its sad because he was once very open minded. it will only get worse once he moves exclusively to spotify
Justin Thomas... Rogan is progressive, he changes with the times when things become more clear. Which is exactly what we all need to do. As we are educated and enlightened, we move to be a better human.
@@justinthomas2334 Wdym they let him talk for liken2 minutes straight.
@@bharris010486 what u just said has absolutely nothing to do with the topic..it's been long known that the elites are pushing to restructure society into a one world government, and economy. George Soros is the creator of BLM. Read the Georgia Guidestones.
Dude had the mic more than anyone else
The one in the suit got it all right love him intellectually and those are facts
Yeah, the guy just got a new fan. He has a good head
It's about power not money not race power
His name is Saargar Enjeti, you can find him on Hill TV
@@jayr9952 thanks
Diablo Fuerte money is power
It’s so they can be left alone on the issue, and move on. It’s like saying happy holidays.
Well said, but some people are so stupid they don’t see it.
It's a very narrow minded, mind set, these people genuinely think these companies/people actually give a fuck but really they don't if they did they would have supported BLM from the jump but they didn't UNTILL it grew out of control and they saw an opportunity for them to gain something out of it.
probably at least half of all people are mentally retarded
People see it. You're just looking in the wrong direction. There are many people who are able to perceive past the optics and are doing their best to convey that.
Saagar is a smart and articulate dude!
He's talking a load of bollocks, and people are lapping it up. It's baffling.
@@bt4086 Thanks for your opinion.
@@bt4086 yeah i think your opinion is wrong too. If you think you right please debunk his points with sources that are credible
@@bt4086 What points did you not agree with?
Eddy Bravo and Alex Jones have talked about this. Although not as clearly...
Yeah Alex jones says lots of crazy shit but once in a while he gets stuff exactly right.
Most of the time.
Eddie Bravos gym got looted
Indian dude way smarter than both joe Rogan and the white lady put together.
Thats part of the problem tho. They talk about SO MUCH, that you cant take them seriously, even when they are right. You cry wolf so many times, why should ppl listen when you do it again? Not you particularly, but in general.
Why does no one ever mention that there are thousands of different sellers on Amazon? Amazon itself has very few products.
C Warren and the orders of those products are fulfilled by Amazon.
What is your point?
Good points. Conservatives who are fed up with 'identity politics' - take note. marxist based class politics is actually the deeper level here.
Finally someone gets it. It's really silly seeing how many conservatives here who say this guy is spot on, are essentially agreeing with a critical aspect of Marxist analysis - the very thing that they have been brainwashed to think that PROMOTES identity politics.
It's just plain ridiculous how so many conservatives are so foolish as to get their info about other ideologies and philosophies from right wing radio and youtube personalities, and refuse to actually get themselves educated on things they could very well find serious value in, but only if they put down propaganda and pick up a book, maybe listen to some marxist lectures for once. I honestly think it's past most of them.
@@ufodeath what're you referring to by the very thing that they think promotes identity politics?
@@Noahskaterat123 Read my post...
@@ufodeath Marxism does indirectly promote identity politics, as the followers of Marxism place a higher value on the group identity and which group you're a part of, as opposed to individual identity. Marxism is a fairly daft ideology though, as it's been proven demonstrably that that way of thinking doesn't translate at all into the macro scale
I’m pretty sure everybody is tired not just conservatives
"We are living in a society."
Bottom text.
Great conversation. Who’s the suit? I’d like to hear more from him.
Uber sent me an email about how they support BLM specifically. I was astounded. Deleted both of my Uber Aps.
Well your either for or against.
Double Click against
A lot of what Saagar said is difficult for first time listeners to understand, but if ya watch The Hill Rising more y’all will understand what he’s saying more and more. It’s a different perspective but definitely something a lot of people don’t realize.
Not really. Most who watches Joe Rogan daily understood what they're both saying right off the bat. Never heard of either them, but I got the message.
Omg!!! Krystal and Saagar on the Joe Rogan show!!!
My three favorite UA-camrs all in one studio. This morning on Rising Krystal hinted that viewers would soon learn why she and Saagar have been doing the show remotely that past few days.
Omg nnnoooooooo
@@2010COpall I can watch Krastal Ball all day.
who? seriously, no disrespect.
Purgatory they host the show Rising for media outlet The Hill.
At this point I’m tired of this 2 party system, I don’t wana see us fighting anymore I just want us all to be at peace. This is getting outta hand, so many of us are about to die real soon
"there is no political solution"
The UK had a 2 party coalition and it never got out done.
@@machoflops there really isn't.
The amount of parties isn't the problem. The UK has like 7 large parties and they have many of the same problems. The parties can be infiltrated and taken over by ideologues and that is exactly what happens. It's not Republican vs Democrat. That's want the media wants you to think. The truth is, it's Globalism vs Nationalism. The Constitution stands in the way of the globalist agenda and they are going to do everything they can to remove that obstacle.
Quite frankly, I'm sick of politics. We just need to learn how to value one another as the human race.
And trust me buddy, how American can you feel when you KNOW there are places in America you can’t go.