NEW Citroen e-C4 review - bargain electric SUV? | What Car?
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I went from a diesel to an eC4. I was quite reluctant. The eC4 is a brilliant car. The ride, including the spec. I own a shine+. If you are going electric there are a few things to bear in mind. It's more suited to short journeys as motorway depletes ANY EV range rapidly. My car will say 190 range. If I do my 32 mile journey then by the time I get to work it will say about 90 miles range left. Though bear in mind the car will under estimate your range so don't take that 90 miles range as gospel. I tend to drive in sport mode so you can always switch to eco mode and get much better range. Another thing is the car is not slow. I was worried about the overtaking acceleration. As with any EV the instant torque is poweful and it'st enough to get past a slow moving lorry if required. It is our secondary car. I would not rely on any EV as an only car unless you plan to only drive local and not venture to far from home. My only real complaint is the cup holders for the front passenger are woeful. They don't hold take- out coffee cups properly.
Like you I switched recently, going from petrol to electric with a shine plus ec4. I got mine for a very reasonable 21K with only 150 miles on the clock. My drive to work is similar to yours, but being in Scotland, since I picked this up at the end of Nov, temps have typically been in the 3 - 8C range with some days around freezing. I drive in standard/normal, have heating set at 20C, and find my range drop by about 50 -55 miles per journey on average depending on weather. Most of my journey is dual carriage way at 60 - 65 mph or slightly slower as I feel range drops quickly after the low 60's on my routes at least. So, I reckon I'm getting 140 - 160 range mostly, with some trips away from early morning commute coldest temps.
The car is an amazing place to spend time in and, as you say, a great drive. I don't agree with the review comments on body roll or it being sluggish, but I'm not a heavy footed car reviewer or boy racer prioritising speed over all else. I find it supremely comfortable, very quiet, perfectly practicle and with a great sound system and all the tech I want. The cup holders are a pain, but were easily solved by buying my own tall insulated cups which places are happy to fill for me. There have been a few warmer days this last week and there is a marked increase in range with the higher temps. One day last week, at 14c, the car was easily returning 4.2kw/hr which bodes well for range in proper summer temperatures.
In short, I'm a very happy bunny with this car. I like the look and the feel of the car, got used to the rear spoiler and other minor quirks very quickly and am enjoying every moment behind the wheel. I find it a very chilled out car to drive, and it does what I need when I need it. And now I've got a home charger installed and moved away from public charging, it's very cheap to run on a weekly basis.
Just learn to drive it appropriately at motorway speeds. Much like the cars of the 70s-back that would eventually break down instead if pegged. Travelling 55 - 65mph instead of 70 - 85mph live everyone else won't totally kill you. Going 10 miles quicker per hour is not far at all when going a mile a minute ⌚
If you have too much anxiety safely draft behind a large vehicle or any vehicles going at a comfortable pace. It could make the difference of doing 2.5miles/kWh and 3.5 or more mi/kWh
Had mine 2 years now, and it’s such a relaxed drive , costs me £4 to charge 150miles in winter or 200 plus for the rest of the year.
Picked up a 23 Shine Plus 50KWH with 3K miles, including electric seats and sunroof as a dealer's company car for just over £19K and it's brilliant. Plenty of real-world range for most journeys, enough poke and tons of kit. Super comfortable too.
I have a 2023 E-C4... Totally agree its a nice sized hatchback. Seats are brilliantly comfortable as is the suspension. Fit and finish is miles better than the MG4. I find it very quiet with no wind noise. My E-C4 only had one battery size and I disagree with the winter range stated here.... I have driven in freezing weather, constant 70mph and still did better than 140 miles. The outstanding part of the E-C4 is its brilliantly cheap second hand price.
Don't understand the hate for EVs. I've got one of these on a lease, it is a really nice car to drive and very comfortable. I pay £250 a month and am saving over £100 a month on petrol and tax, and the insurance worked out slightly cheaper. Very much doubt i would find an ICE car in this class for £150 a month.
I am about to take the plunge, which EV did you go for and any complaints?
@@lnby I have an EC4 which I am very happy with after a couple of months. Would have liked something with a longer range ideally but to be fair I've just done a 370 mile drive to Cornwall and it all went very very smoothly. Would even say it was less tiring than normal with the extra stops we took.
Good to see Joe Wilkinson bouncing back after being fired from cats does countdown
The ë-C4 is a lovely EV. A car is more than only range and battery size. This car extremely comfortable by it's PHC dampening system. And thats a unique selling point that really stand out from the crowd. If you spec it up there is not much more to wish for. I drive a shine version which is a lovely well specced car. And very reliable car with no hussle at all. Avant-garde design unique comfort.
How is the depreciation ?
@@stevenjones916probably unsellable after 5 years
I've had one for 2 years now. I still look forward enthusiastically to my daily commute and have no complaints at all so far. Lovely car.
I have a 21 e-C4, it's a great car. The comfortable ride sold it to me. Is it a bit soft - of course it is - it's a Citroen!
The ec4 really is underrated for what it offers, confortable range, amazing car in every other aspect. A bit expensive, but luxurious enough to justify it
Citroen always have a different look from all the other cars, nice, slick, modern, good video review ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Been driving this car for 2 years now, it is great.
I definitely like the road presence of the ëC4 and C5X , they have gorgeous faces with the chevrons in the lights
Its not an 11kw on board charger - look at the charge port, it only has three power connectors (live neutral and earth) so it cannot accept a 3 phase plug (or it will but only charge on one phase). It will only ever charge at 7kw, unless you use a DC charger.
I would really like to to a range test that reflects more local use. Most trips we are told are less than 25 miles and that seems to reflect 95% of my trips so what range can I get between charges where usage excludes hi speed long motorway trips
Slightly damning with faint praise. I have had one since 2021 and never been as low as 140 in winter. Driven properly you can easily get 170+. Even in Eco it will beat a Range River away from the lights even in Eco. Never had any handling problems and you get a lot more as standard than entry level Niro and certainly more than the ID3 where everything is extra.
Can beat anything away from the lights as long as it's not racing you. The e-c4 maybe a comfortable cruiser but fast it isn't!
Seuraava autoni on ehkä käytetty 2-3 vuotias tälläinen e-C4 tai Fiat 500e (42 kwh).
Olen koeajanut lyhyen koeajon molemmilla. Fiat kiihtyi hieman nopeammin ja sillä pystyi ajamaan yhdellä polkimella.
Citroenin jousitus on hieman mukavampi ja siinä on hieman enemmän tilaa.
Molempien hinnat vähän käytettynä täällä Suomessa noin 20 000 - 25 000 €.
Nykyinen autoni on Tipo 1.4 T-jet ja olen ajanut sillä lähes 6 vuotta ja 120 000 km. Se on toiminut erittäin hyvin, samoin kuin edelliset Fiatini (Bravo ja Grande Punto).
Onkohan e-C4 ja 500e luotettavuudessa ja sähköominaisuuksissa eroja?
when will the car manufacturers stop putting piano plastic in the central console?.. 🤪
Driving one of these is like driving on velvet, an incredibly soft ride. Perfect car except how much the real world range dropped by when on a motorway.
The MG4 looks like the cheap toy cars you get from the pound shop for your kid. 🤣
Succinct, relevant review. Thank you.
Good one for the family outing
I think I'd prefer my MG4 to this. The interior isn't so nice looking but you get much better performance range for less money. But it does show European manufacturers are starting at last to produce (almost) price competitive EVs - just need to bump up those battery capacities boys. As a side note, the accessory you need for the tablet pop out thing in the dash at 2:23 costs £80+ and I think if I did buy this car and wanted to use it, that I'd be designing a 3d printed piece instead.
Citroen made in France. A neighbouring economy. MG made in China. A distant economy. Also, MG is owned by the Chinese Communist Party. Buy an MG and fund the party elite. Supporters of Putin. Threats to Taiwan. Oppressors of HK and Tibet. Internment camps. Slave labour. Nasty car.
Excellent review. I like this car.
I rented this car in Europe. Not a bad car but not great for highway driving. I would opt for a hybrid if you are road tripping around Europe
A 5 l difference in boot space makes them comparable. Not smaller
Citron very nice car to have and they look awesome
Use to love my Citroen Picasso
Nah it’s not a Citroen, at least they got manual aircon controls
I would love to own this car
A bit high in price.
I’ll keep my 2021 C4 Diesel auto thank you 👍
Good car. It so beautiful
British model not coming to South Africa the comparisons also not they featured .
Bargain? Maybe not when the residuals plummet along with so many other EVs
The poor range and depreciation rule it out for me
Young beast 💪
140 mile range is absurd
Nice SUV car
I am all about reliability, however that vehicle inside and out is gorgeous. If it come with a gas engine I will take it.
Why are there now so many bot comments on YT channels?
Stupid money. They will sell when they are a year old and £15k off the price.
Not an suv at all
EV era
It seems like he has dirt on his mouth. Its dificult to understand what he say´s!
E-Niro is not an SUV
😮good to see a member of the public reviewing a vehicle. I mean hes not very good but... let me do a review.
You speak so much cr ap.
£2.50 in 2 years time😅
blah blah blah. 5 min video. respect our time
No, it's not a bargain and I can't ever fathom why these magazine channels think this sort of thing is.
£32000 for a winter range of 140 miles is an utter joke...and the car will be worth 35p in a years time not just because it's an EV but also because it's a Citroen
Get a grip
The best part of EVs is watching other people have to deal with, complain about, learn the truth about them. And sit back in smug satisfaction and think “thank God it’s not me”.
All cars today have similar looks, similar features. Similar characters . Boring.
I absolutely agree with you. It gets harder and harder to find a car that looks different and beautiful. Personally, I find only 3 cars that look different and beautiful: Ford Puma (the one I am getting next month), Alfa Romeo Tonale and Fiat 500.
Everything else looks the same.
God this fella is boring
French cars 🚗 😂😂 no thank you.
Go for the German ones then!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@@anemeth9281 German quality or Japanese reliability 🤷♂️
I wouldn't touch EVs with a barge pole at the mo. The bubble has well and truly burst.
I wouldn’t touch an ICE car with a barge pole so I guess we cancel each other out.
Battery powered cars 👎
Yet you watched a video on one 😂😂😂
You would be as well throwing your hard earned cash down the drain than buying one of these cars.
If you buy a French car, you will definitely need a therapist
My first car was a Citroen C3. It was great, simple, easy to drive and CHEAP.
Citroen in particular makes AFFORDABLE vehicles for the people.
Proves you have no understanding of cars...
@@anemeth9281 I have understanding of my small wallet.
What a hideous looking thing and totally pointless car. We have now hit a low point in car design
That's your opinion about the looks I guess, what are the pointless aspects? I care little for 0-60, street cred etc. All I know is ours is costing about £115 less a month to run than the petrol Qashqai it replaced, taking into account home charging (which we are fortunate enough to benefit from) , insurance, VED, MOT's etc
No to EVs
This detailed response is making me reconsider my choices 😂
@@GeoffSlack Can't really expect more from a petrolhead in 2024 xD
Wow Citroën on the SUV as well this will bring quite a great competition for buyers
Good one for the family outing