Mansfield Style Hydrant Repair Video - Leaking Behind the Handle
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Official PRIER Products Repair Video--If your Mansfield Style 300, 400 or 500 Series residential hydrant is leaking behind the handle, you can repair the hydrant from the exterior of the structure with parts from the Wall Hydrant Repair Kit part # 630-7755. *PLEASE NOTE: Since the creation of this video, we have updated our vacuum breakers to aluminum caps. These caps are seen on the C-144, P-164 and 400 Series Residential Hydrants, as well as the C-144KT-806 and 630-7500 kits. These vacuum breakers are now universal and will fit all past and present PRIER and Mansfield style residential hydrants.
This video demonstrates the repair of the Mansfield style hydrants that were manufactured by Mansfield until April 2007. PRIER Products has been manufacturing these hydrants since April 2007.
This makes the reassembly very clear, unlike the printed instructions that come with the kit.
Great content. I'm here because I have already ordered a repair kit. I have Prier frost-proofs which has a plastic packing nut that won't tighten anymore to stop it from leaking. It probably needs the packing to be replaced. The packing nut should be a metal in my opinion. I'm glad that I'm a jack-of-all-trades or I would be broke with all the home repairs that need to be done. I have training in auto mechanics, mechanical, plumbing, electrical, water, and wastewater treatment and even swimming pools thanks partly to my USAF training in Civil Engineering and also my past City employment, and I have since retired as a Utilities Director for a private community.
I ran out and bought your kit and I just fixed my faucet 20 minutes thanks to your great and clear video. I don't know anything about being a home owner or plumber. You helped me so much!
Great video! Because of this, I bought the Prier repair kit and did the repair. I too probably saved over $100. Thanks!
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. It made the process so much easier.
Richard, thanks for watching! We are so glad it helped you in the repair process.
This was a game changer for me, the hardest part for me was figuring out where the main shut off valve was at my house! I was at a loss until I stumbled upon this video, took me about 10 minutes after I shut the water off! This was a $8.99 fix thanks to this video! So happy when I can save $100's of $$
Thank you. Was able to fix my leak after watching your instructions.
Once we finally got the screw in the center of the handle removed. (We needed to use a oil penetration product and then use a hammer to tap the end of the screw to finally loosen it.) The replacement product works great. We did need to replace the handle screw due to corrosion. I went back to the hardware store and buying the screw required to buy the handle as well at a cost of $7.00. Instead I bought replacement screws from the hardware section, which was much cheaper. Thanks for the video!
Prier customer support was extremely helpful when I called them. I rebuilt my hydrant. Afterward, it was leaking behind the handle. It turned out that the packing nut was not tight enough. I think I was concerned at first that overtightening the nut might damage it. It is working perfectly now. Thank you!
Excellent video. I just made the repair myself and the faucet now works perfectly. Thank you for not only saving me money but also the confidence boost doing a home repair myself gives me.
That's amazing!! Love to hear that this video helped. Let us know if you need anything else.
Thank you, Thank you! First plumbing place I went to said they didn't sell repair parts - only a whole new faucet that I would need a plumber to install. Second place had the parts and I did it myself! Your video is excellent, BTW - kudos!
Thank you..Repaired my 2 faucets...easy to follow instructions...but that little O ring was hard to find..it was really stuck and hidden...faucets work great..no more leaks at handle area!
Perfect. You saved me $40 bucks. Thanks.
Great to hear!
But you had to pay $20 for the replacement parts so it only saved you $20. And it’s going to break again in a couple of years and you’ll have to spend another $20.
Great video to repair outside faucets
Saved me a trip and $10+ thanks!
Great video! Very straight forward, and easy to follow!
Thanks
This was a great help. Thank You.
Excellent video!
These are exactly the steps I need to know to fix my old spigot.
I could not find a video clip telling me the reason for the spigot to totally block the water flow; however, this video will help me fix the spigot (hopefully) without further complications. I only have the 630-7755 package.
This helped me tremendously. The hallmark of a good instructional video? When I did something wrong, it was easy to figure out on second viewing! Thanks.
Well congrats on making your own repair! We're so glad the video helped.
Unfortunately, at one time the screw for this valve was not stainless steel, causing it to rust. My first suggestion would be to use a good penetrating oil. If that doesn't work, then you may have to drill out the handle screw to remove it. The replacement screw we offer is stainless steel. Let us know if we can be of any additional assistance.
Thanks to this video, I just save yesterday $115.00. Did it myself.!!! wo hoooo!!!
This is great, saved me from calling a plumber! Was able to do this in a matter of minutes
thank you, you saved me at list $100 which is not the point good filling that I felt when I fixed it in less then a minute
So glad to hear that! Good job on getting the repair done yourself!
Thanks, great video!
Glad you liked it!
You video is very clear and easy to follow but my problem is I can not unscrew the gray handle,used a couple of different sprays to loosen the screw including wd40 and also used different screw drivers counter clockwise. Any suggestion or recommendation.
Thanks for your help in advance
1.5 beer job!
Good video and product. I could have used more detail on the inside portion as the video assumes a straight replace of parts. I found pieces missing on the inside (no screw, missing washers, etc.) I don't know what a cake washer is but I guessed right from the kit. Also guessed wrong on the rubber washer post cake washer. After the continuous leak, I upgraded to a bigger rubber washer. Almost no leak remaining! Found a sweet spot of not to tight in the of position where it stopped dripping. Figure I'm all set until some future full replacement.
edit: beer
Kevin, thank you for the feedback, and great job getting the repair done!
Crappy product. The old style water spigots would last 30 years and never need to be replaced. These things are a scam designed to break so the company keeps making more money off of you. Mine sounds like fingernails an a chalk board every time I turn it, I’m going to HD tomorrow and buying an old style spigot.
Thank you for this video. The only problem is that the hand wheel on mine seems stuck somehow. I don’t want to force it out. What could possibly cause this?
My knob was cracked and this finally made our spigot workable after 7 years of just assuming it was broken. Thanks!
I'm getting way too familiar with this hydrant. Every spring, here we go again
Hi there! What exactly is the problem with your hydrant? We are happy to help in any way we can. You can call our Customer Service department at 1-800-362-9055, M-F 8am-5pm.
Great video. I managed to get the screw and beveled gasket stuck in the pipe when I was removing the stem with the leaking bell basket. The screw is turned such a way that it is difficult to remove. Any suggestions for getting the screw and gasket out?
The packing nut doesn't even fit in mine. There wasn't even a nut in my hydrant when I unscrewed the handle. Is there a smaller kit?
What happens if the plastic nut breaks because it was stuck???
Epic fail. The stem on my M400 stem did not look anything like the one in the video. I replaced the graphite washer and other pieces as best I could, including a brand-new handle, and the hydrant leaked the same as before. $30 down the drain.
The Mansfield 400 series Faucet Stem is a 123-40XX series stem and the Mansfield 500 series Faucet Stem 500 is a 123-00XX series stem.
And I take it one stem is about .025 larger then the other ?
Stem won't budge, no matter where it is in its rotation. I hear metallic clunk when I pull.
looks like professional time. Pulled stem out and 1/2 came out. Business end stayed inside.
The stem on our 400/500 series hydrant doesn't seem to catch on anything when inserted into the hydrant. All of the rubber parts were replaced. We tried turning on the water to possibly get something unclogged, it still didn't work. Do you have any ideas on how to fix this?
Can't turn the handle on the water socket outside the house.
would have been nice to show the stem for the 300 series as well
What I have is this, FUSAN ASSE 1019A outside faucet, if I have to replace the packing inside, I am having a hard time finding places that sell this brand's parts. Any help is appreciated. @Prier
First I’d confirm it is a Mansfield valve, there are many valves that have copied that style over the years. Does the stem you removed match the replacement stem? There’s a chance that the threads that are inside that valve are stripped out, however that is rare.
After reinserting the stem and threading into place, why does my handle and stem keep spinning counter-clockwise when opening the spigot?
When I finally managed to remove the screw in the center of the handle, water continually flowed out of the screw hole! That explains why the non-stainless screw was so rusted and hard to get out. I suppose water is getting in at the other end of the stem. Why not have a stem that is permanently sealed at that end? Thanks for the video.
Steven, I believe you have an old 400 or 500 series that was manufactured by Mansfield. Those stems were spring loaded and did not have a stainless screw, which resulted in the issue you are currently having. We now have a permanently sealed stem on our Diamond Series 400 Series Wall Hydrants and all other residential wall hydrants. You can find all information on those hydrants on our website at www.PRIER.com. Thank you!
I replaced the screw and internal parts using your repair kits. It's working very well now. Thanks!
Great to hear. Thanks Steven!
My faucet is Mansfield. The plastic packing nut is WHITE but left thread. So, I made mistake, I tried to loosen the nut but instead I overtightened so bad that the nut is now rounded. I put the handle back in, no more leak BUT I can’t turn the handle at all. The handle is actually on open position now because I left it on open position when I opened the handle. Question is: If I am able to loosen the nut - I am ordering bidirectional bolt extractor - will I be able to turn the handle again? I think I will have to replace the nut and packing washer due to this over-tightening.
3:28 What if we DON'T have a small O ring on the stem end? Could it just have disintegrated? or did some models not have them? Should that inner piece on the stem end that the O-ring extend out easily? Mine does not. Can the permanently sealed stem on your Diamond Series be purchased for the older mansfield hydrants or does the entire unit need to be replaced to get a sealed stem?
My Mansfield Hydrant is almost 40 year old. The bib screw is stuck in the stem. Is there any easy way to unscrew it without damaging the stem end?
I replaced the packing with the correct packing. However, the packing did not change shape and conform after tightening the nut.
Hello - I actually got a new stem 123-0093 ( which matches exactly with my old stem) and installed it. But strange- when I shut off the valve it is NOT shutting off. What am I doing wrong. Should the spring loaded portion be aligned in any specific way to shut off . Pl. let me know
What happens when you replace everything and it's still leaking?
Same. Ugh!!
@herriga I ended up putting thread sealant on every threaded part, even the screw that holds the handle on, and that did the trick for me. Hope that helps you out.
I can't removed the handle after removing the screw. Is there a lubricant that would help?
does the o ring not go on the packing nut?
So how do you remove a rusted handle screw thats frozen in the stem? I've applied Kroil, tried tightening and loosening with a socket and 3/8" drive ratchet. What at one time appears to be a 3/8" screw head is now an 11/32" head due to rust. Why do you not use stainless screws here?
Hi there, thanks for reaching out. Great question. You can try to drill out the screw, or in the worst case scenario, break off the handle with a hammer, and then replace the stem and handle. To answer your question about the screws - before we acquired the Mansfield line, they did not use stainless steel screws. Since taking ownership of their line, we have made many upgrades to the product including stainless steel screws. If you want some troubleshooting help or have more questions, please call our customer service team at 1-800-362-9055.
I know I'm going to have to drill it out, and I'll most likely have to buy a new stem instead of just new seals. What I want to know is why did this one come with a cheap ass mild steel bolt instead of the nice stainless bolt shown in all the videos? And why is the stem length not stamped into the valve so I don't have to shut down my water, take it apart, measure it, order the parts, then have to reassemble it so I can turn my water back on while I wait for the part, then do it all over again when it arrives? A little foresight would go a long way towards customer satisfaction. Should be a twenty minute job, but now it looks like it's going to be a week or longer ordeal. I'm really not impressed.
As stated above, unfortunately the version of this product you have was manufactured by another company before we took it over, so we can't speak for that company's decision on why they used an inferior screw or don't have the stem length stamped on the valve.
We don't stamp the stem length on valves because the body of the valve is used for all lengths, and stamping each of them would increase the cost to our customers.
When we did take over this product from Mansfield, we made as many improvements as we could to prevent quality issues, including a better screw, stem and vacuum breaker.
Hopefully this helps answer your questions, and as always, if you'd like to speak to customer service by phone, please call us at 1-800-362-9055.
I'd pay more for a piece that I'd know I could order the parts for without having to disassemble it twice. Poor business decision.
The good news is, we still manufacture replacements parts, and we have our own high-quality brand of residential hydrants if you are looking for another model. Let us know if you need help finding parts or want help with the repair. Here's a great example of a product that is meant to last the lifetime of your home - prier.com/products/residential-hydrants/p-164-%7C-quarter-turn-wall-hydrant.html
The slot on the screw is GONE. Screw rusted. Tried WD-40 and rachet, no luck. Suggestions??
Thank you for contacting PRIER. At this point, you may need to drill out the screw. If that will not work, you may need to replace the internal stem and purchase a new handle. Since I'm not sure which valve you have or how old it is, please reach out to Customer Service, 800-362-9055 or email me, sales@PRIER.com, Attn; Cheryl
Thank you,
Cheryl
I dont see how this garbage is supposed to be frostproof.!! Seems every year I'm replacing parts on this thing! This is AFTER turning the water off, draining the spigot, and covering the hydrant with insulation in late fall before the freeze. This year I'm going to remove the whole goddamn stem and vacuum breaker assembly, drain the pipe and fixture, and pour RV antifreeze in there..cap it and cover it with insulation and a fixture cover!! Maybe the parts will survive this year if they stay inside?
How do you get the handle off.
The screw in the handle appears to be stripped. I tried different sockets and could not find a match . Any tips to get it out? I tried spraying with WD40.
Unfortunately, it sounds like the screw is stripped and will need to be drilled out.
what happens when the nut wont come out and are left with just the threads in the faucet
It sounds like the outer area of the plastic nut has broken off, so you would need to insert something like needle nose pliers, expand them, and try to twist to thread the packing nut back out. Give us a call at 1-800-362-9055 if you need more troubleshooting help!
M300 was working, Now handle just spins in both directions, no water. Inside shut off is on. Screw holding handle on is tight.
John Holland Hi John, It sounds like the stem inside of the valve may be stripped out or broken. What does it look like if you disassemble the valve. Either way you will likely need a replacement stem for your valve.
If that handle screw has been in place for more than a year it is frozen. Use penetrating oil and an impact driver.
Informative but the music is irritating.
My prier mansfield 164/400 has a rubber sleeve on it and no one shows this.
@Prier, my question is where can I obtain parts for a FUSAN spigot, that is what I have for an outdoor faucet located inside of my garage. My spigot is doing exactly what is shown in the video, however I have looked at HomeDepot and Lowes and I do not see that brand listed, do your parts work for my spigot?
Hi there! Thanks for watching our videos. Unfortunately we don't have any answers for you on where to buy Fusan parts or whether or not our parts are compatible with theirs. Because Fusan is a foreign company, finding replacement parts may be a challenge. Best of luck to you, and if you decide to replace your faucet with a PRIER one, let us know!
At the end when the web address for where to buy the narrator says "back slash". The is WRONG. The character is a FORWARD slash.
Buy plumbers tape for $2 and wrap around plastic packing nut and tighten into place. Done. I first tried tightening nut with no luck, then bought this $20 kit and it did not fix the problem. I simply put tape on the nut and voila, no leak. Buy a steak and six pack with the money and time I just saved u
I can't believe I hadn't thought of that! Just did mine a couple of mins ago; works great! Thanks!
And this, is why the internet can be great! Thanks for the tip! I about to dive into one of these and I’ll do that as a backup measure!
wire me your address so I can send you a check for a nice steak! KIDDING! THANKS, I'm going to try it out. Some guy thanks UA-cam for all the great info, all you need is Wikipedia and UA-cam for nearly anything. We are living in a fantastic age, too bad we take it for granted. Plumbers think they are Doctors, considering what they charge.
or silicone sealant?
Mine only leaks when the faucet is on AND the hose is attached. I'm guessing the restriction of the hose is causing it to leak out. Think your solve will fix my problem? Guess it won't hurt to try..
UPDATE: This worked for me. Thanks for the idea.
Still leaks! I used the kit, watching the video multiple times. The only replaceable parts on my unit were the packing washer, graphite washer and small O ring. There is no screw on the inside end to remove. Depressing, as this is inside my house and not something I can ignore.
Please call our service team. We want to ensure it works for you. 800-362-9055.
We're sorry you're dissatisfied with our video. If you need help repairing a product, feel free to call our toll free number for assistance at 800-362-9055.
Can you give me the kit number for the plastic handle itself?
The Mansfield handle kit # is 630-7965
The packing nut has rusted & it stuck I can't unscrew it😪
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7 years ago
Unfortunately, at one time the screw for this valve was not stainless steel, causing it to rust. My first suggestion would be to use a good penetrating oil. If that doesn't work, then you may have to drill out the handle screw to remove it. The replacement screw we offer is stainless steel. Let us know if we can be of any additional assistance. 800-362-9055
I did all this. It’s still leaking from the handle. These stupid things are a scam. I just want the old water spigots back. Going to HD tomorrow and buying a regular water spigot and getting rid of this piece of crap.
This video is misleading. Your interior water source does not always shut off at the water heater. You may have to go to either a shut off that may be available outside around your house, or just to be safe turn your water off at the meter.
hey tf...get a grip
WOULD YOU PLEASE REMOVE THE BACKGROUND MUSIC, IT'S EXTREMELY ANOYING!!!!!!!!!! AS I'M ALREADY FRUSTRATED WITH THIS PRODUCT!!!!! ALSO, YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE THE DRAWINGS LARGER ON THE BACK OF YOUR BLISTER CARD PACKAGING OR INCLUDE A SEPERATE SHEET WITH NICE BIG LEGIBLE INSTRUCTIONS. FYI, MY EYES ARE FINE AND I'M USED TO READING BLUEPRINTS. PLEASE LISTEN TO YOUR CUSTOMERS.!!!!!!!!!