I've done something similar with 650 ml yogurt containers made of polypropylene. It worked pretty well with each layer giving ~650pF. The trouble was that the cups are tapered and so wrapping them in foil was difficult and required the foil be a very specific rainbow shape. Next time I'm at the dollar store I'll have to grab some plates and give this a try. It looks a lot easier. 10 HV microwave oven diodes just came in the mail too so assuming my results are good I'll look forward to using these for a multiplier. The stacked design would really lend itself to that well.
I didnt have any aluminum foil so I borrowed a stop sign down the street and cut it into 4 pieces then I realized I was fresh out of foam plates so looking around I found some memory foam from a mattress which I cut up and just smashed it really flat then I stacked the foam then stop sign then foam like that and used some duct tape to hold it all together. when I finally connected the very large pole pig transformer I got from a power pole on the outskirts of town this really really worked well with this gigantic tesla coil. so well in fact that it managed to burn up 2 of the cities main power generators. but there for awhile you should have seen this thing lighting up every lightbulb wether turned on or not for miles some devices apparently couldnt handle that much electricity in the air and just died truly an epic sight to behold. thanks for the idea . hopefully the city will be up and running soon and I will be able to test this again, fortunately for me they have no idea how it happened. everyone blames the mayor hahaha
@@ludicscience Redo the experiment with 1/2 or 1/4 size plates. Then only 1 or 2 layers, on plate size. Then redo to see how long or what voltage damages the capacitor. Anyway, it would be a very cool follow up video to link to. Thanks for the original video! Much appreciated!!
First, I enjoy all of your videos. I am a big fan. Your explanation and setups are always simple. I have a question this time. I wonder why adding a cap can make the spark more intense. If it has an inductor in series, I would say it is because of the LC resonance.
Is the same DC power supply used in this video and the "low inductance capacitor" video? I know DC is used most frequently to charge up capacitors (and this video you say it is DC power supply of ~8000v). However, I wanted to make sure, so I know what type of power supply I need to get a hold of to replicate this experiment (I need a high charge-discharge rate at high voltage) . Thank you!
I think if the power supply is ac ''or dc pulsed into a transformer'' the capacitor will multiply the voltage. I think having the capacitors in parallel increases the amperage and to increase the voltage you need to make a step up trasformer or cascade multiplier using diodes.
When the power it turned on, the capacitor starts to charge and consumes most of the power so there isn't enough voltage to immediately jump between the test clips. As the capacitor charges up, the voltage present at the test clips gets higher and higher until there is enough to jump across the gap. When that happens, the spark creates a discharge path because plasma conducts extremely well and all the power stored in the capacitor drains quickly through this discharge path, causing the noise. Once enough power has drained to stop sustaining the discharge arc, the plasma disappears and the cycle repeats. This effect is used to switch very high currents very quickly. Google the "triggered spark gap" for more.
Clips? The man asked for an EXPLANATION. NOT A REPEAT. ALLOW ME SIR. -electricity is applies to each sheet. The tin foil is conductive. On a level between 1=10 rating, tin is 9.9! :) (these small differences is important- all materials are 'conductive'- or 'pass energy', but some, like metals are more, plastics/foam-way less, BUT STILL, energy/electricity is able to pass thru ALL THINGS, only difference is, how fast? Thats the magic of caps. Every cap has some different level of "capacitence' or simpler- 'how much air, or oil, or paper, or foam plates does the energy need to" jump" thru. Butt it really doesnt, on a mych quicker, molecular level, energy is "filling" up, building up, this build up, some call it "potential". The point where the tin foil cant hold it. Both sheets are zapping full of electrons and protons, like a 2 dance clubs with boys in one, girls in another, across the street, the street is soaked with whiskey (the oil
Lemme answer this ..... voltages through capacitor made more dipoles in each particle of the capacitant molecule as a result induction happens in a swift flash attitude. Stronger arch imedes as result.
a simpler explanation is that the transformer is like a valve and the capacitor acts like a cup the water valve provides a constant rate of water, the cup that fills and empty (think about those Japanese garden bambo things that fills and empty and makes a loud noise when they hit the rock)
@@zazugee What you're talking about is called a relaxation oscillator and yeah, that's basically correct. Your use of the word "valve" is confusing though. It's just a power supply. The zen garden feature has a water supply. A valve implies switching action. Maybe you meant faucet or tap. Peter S is exactly right. Those other two posts are complete bollocks. (No offense.)
Can you tell How we can increase capacitance by expanding not only in number of layers but thickness of aluminum foil maybe? Would you store more charge if you add not a single layer of aluminum foil but say 10 layers between to plastic plates, and then triple each subsequent layer like that... Would it WORK?
Bojan Atanasow capacitance depends upon separation between aluminum plates and surface area of aluminum plate. So if you want to increase capacitance you can use bigger plates or compress plates to reduce distance between each aluminum plate layer.
Sir we are doing a project in which we want a capacitor with 20 kV breakdown voltage. How should we achieve this? How can we modify the capacitor in the video so that it becomes 20 kV instead of 10kV?
Thank you so much! I was lookin for HV capacitors for my tesla coil, but they are rarity. But sir could you tell me, what is the breakdown voltage of this type of capacitor and could I use oil instead of that baby powder or somtin :)
You can use any mineral oil for this. The breakdown voltage depends on the thickness of the plates you use but most likely any failures will be caused by imperfections in the plastic. If you experience a failure, just build a new capacitor using two plates (with a little oil between) for each insulator. Remember that if your spark gap gets too big, that's when your cap will fail for sure. In my day we used glass bottles of salt water in a salt water bath or wrapped in foil. This design is so much easier and safer.
Let's make over 1F capacitors! I someone comes next to your door ;D........ I accidentally shorted 4.7mF 350VDC cap.... Omg... ;D... Sound was like a sniper rifle next to the ear :DD.... NICE VID!
Ludic Science but sir I have Doubt that when we touch vandegraff generator we don't get shock due to higher potential over it. I thing same thing must be for flybak when we touch only single positive terminal having insulated foot at the bottom. Thanks!
Well done! This is a exceedingly clever and simple design.
WOW! I am impressed by the simplicity and practicality of the construction. thank you for the video.
Love Your Channel.
I've done something similar with 650 ml yogurt containers made of polypropylene. It worked pretty well with each layer giving ~650pF. The trouble was that the cups are tapered and so wrapping them in foil was difficult and required the foil be a very specific rainbow shape. Next time I'm at the dollar store I'll have to grab some plates and give this a try. It looks a lot easier.
10 HV microwave oven diodes just came in the mail too so assuming my results are good I'll look forward to using these for a multiplier. The stacked design would really lend itself to that well.
Wow! That capacitor really does make a big difference. Thanks for making this video. Excellent as always.
Thank you
This project is very good!
I likes the way you are explained clearly your video are excelent
These aluminium foils look like the planet Jupiter
I've never seen 10K served on a plate before. Thank You!
Lol
I didnt have any aluminum foil so I borrowed a stop sign down the street and cut it into 4 pieces then I realized I was fresh out of foam plates so looking around I found some memory foam from a mattress which I cut up and just smashed it really flat then I stacked the foam then stop sign then foam like that and used some duct tape to hold it all together. when I finally connected the very large pole pig transformer I got from a power pole on the outskirts of town this really really worked well with this gigantic tesla coil. so well in fact that it managed to burn up 2 of the cities main power generators. but there for awhile you should have seen this thing lighting up every lightbulb wether turned on or not for miles some devices apparently couldnt handle that much electricity in the air and just died truly an epic sight to behold. thanks for the idea . hopefully the city will be up and running soon and I will be able to test this again, fortunately for me they have no idea how it happened. everyone blames the mayor hahaha
Good story.
Great video, thanks. Is it correct to say that the capacitor increases the voltage? or why is the arc stronger after the capacitor?
Can it be used in a Tesla coil?
Excellent video, I would very much like to see a destructive test for breakdown voltage of these plastic plates.
Need a higher voltage power supply for that
Ludic Science how high
Ludic Science I highly suggest trying the same thing but with ceramic plates, then it will really be rated for high voltage.
@@ludicscience Redo the experiment with 1/2 or 1/4 size plates. Then only 1 or 2 layers, on plate size. Then redo to see how long or what voltage damages the capacitor. Anyway, it would be a very cool follow up video to link to. Thanks for the original video! Much appreciated!!
@@ludicscience But how do you know it withstands just 10 kV?
Nice ! Can you actually make or build a voltage multipler by using your this method to
Thats what I am looking for. Nice tutorial
It's fake title video's, it should be "How to create mini Lighting in our home" . ,
Damn, I Love it creator !!
Thanks!
great video
Thank you for sharing. I liked your video. keep up the good work.
First, I enjoy all of your videos. I am a big fan. Your explanation and setups are always simple. I have a question this time.
I wonder why adding a cap can make the spark more intense. If it has an inductor in series, I would say it is because of the LC resonance.
Awesome as always!
Wow very informative
Saudações Ludic Science. Saudações a todos. O que será que acontece se juntarmos mil desses capacitores? Tudo de bom.
Helpful
Thanks
Amazing!
Thanks :)
Is the same DC power supply used in this video and the "low inductance capacitor" video? I know DC is used most frequently to charge up capacitors (and this video you say it is DC power supply of ~8000v). However, I wanted to make sure, so I know what type of power supply I need to get a hold of to replicate this experiment (I need a high charge-discharge rate at high voltage) . Thank you!
I think if the power supply is ac ''or dc pulsed into a transformer'' the capacitor will multiply the voltage. I think having the capacitors in parallel increases the amperage and to increase the voltage you need to make a step up trasformer or cascade multiplier using diodes.
nice as usually
Do you have videos of using the difference of potential of the capacitance produced by a single transformer to produce dual regulated discharges?
Can I use normal bodyoil
what voltage can it handle?
Thank you.
Can you explain why with the capacitor the Arc becomes stronger???
When the power it turned on, the capacitor starts to charge and consumes most of the power so there isn't enough voltage to immediately jump between the test clips. As the capacitor charges up, the voltage present at the test clips gets higher and higher until there is enough to jump across the gap. When that happens, the spark creates a discharge path because plasma conducts extremely well and all the power stored in the capacitor drains quickly through this discharge path, causing the noise. Once enough power has drained to stop sustaining the discharge arc, the plasma disappears and the cycle repeats. This effect is used to switch very high currents very quickly. Google the "triggered spark gap" for more.
Clips? The man asked for an EXPLANATION. NOT A REPEAT.
ALLOW ME SIR.
-electricity is applies to each sheet. The tin foil is conductive. On a level between 1=10 rating, tin is 9.9! :) (these small differences is important- all materials are 'conductive'- or 'pass energy', but some, like metals are more, plastics/foam-way less, BUT STILL, energy/electricity is able to pass thru ALL THINGS, only difference is, how fast?
Thats the magic of caps. Every cap has some different level of "capacitence' or simpler- 'how much air, or oil, or paper, or foam plates does the energy need to" jump" thru. Butt it really doesnt, on a mych quicker, molecular level, energy is "filling" up, building up, this build up, some call it "potential". The point where the tin foil cant hold it. Both sheets are zapping full of electrons and protons, like a 2 dance clubs with boys in one, girls in another, across the street, the street is soaked with whiskey (the oil
Lemme answer this ..... voltages through capacitor made more dipoles in each particle of the capacitant molecule as a result induction happens in a swift flash attitude. Stronger arch imedes as result.
a simpler explanation is that the transformer is like a valve and the capacitor acts like a cup
the water valve provides a constant rate of water, the cup that fills and empty (think about those Japanese garden bambo things that fills and empty and makes a loud noise when they hit the rock)
@@zazugee What you're talking about is called a relaxation oscillator and yeah, that's basically correct. Your use of the word "valve" is confusing though. It's just a power supply. The zen garden feature has a water supply. A valve implies switching action. Maybe you meant faucet or tap.
Peter S is exactly right. Those other two posts are complete bollocks. (No offense.)
Any idea what the voltage of this is?
Thanks sir
Awesome!
Hello master, could you help me please how to use activated carbon + electrolyte to make this high voltage capacitor with much more capacitance? 😁😁😁
amazing
okay how do you make this smaller im trying a project that i only have a few centimeters of space to work with any help please
Can you tell How we can increase capacitance by expanding not only in number of layers but thickness of aluminum foil maybe? Would you store more charge if you add not a single layer of aluminum foil but say 10 layers between to plastic plates, and then triple each subsequent layer like that... Would it WORK?
Bojan Atanasow capacitance depends upon separation between aluminum plates and surface area of aluminum plate. So if you want to increase capacitance you can use bigger plates or compress plates to reduce distance between each aluminum plate layer.
@@Exotic_Chem_Lab We how know?capacitor is absolute how many voltage.
Do these capacitors withstand high frequency?
Good idea, but really need big dishes.
Can you show us how to make the power supply that was used in this video
wait do i just plug it on the wall ?
awesome
Sir we are doing a project in which we want a capacitor with 20 kV breakdown voltage. How should we achieve this? How can we modify the capacitor in the video so that it becomes 20 kV instead of 10kV?
use thicker plastic, or two layers.
Thank you so much! I was lookin for HV capacitors for my tesla coil, but they are rarity. But sir could you tell me, what is the breakdown voltage of this type of capacitor and could I use oil instead of that baby powder or somtin :)
You can use any mineral oil for this. The breakdown voltage depends on the thickness of the plates you use but most likely any failures will be caused by imperfections in the plastic. If you experience a failure, just build a new capacitor using two plates (with a little oil between) for each insulator. Remember that if your spark gap gets too big, that's when your cap will fail for sure. In my day we used glass bottles of salt water in a salt water bath or wrapped in foil. This design is so much easier and safer.
thanks
A taser. Thank you for the very informative video.
What are the plates made of?... Plastic or something else......but sir GREAT VIDEO.,👌
The plates look like they are made from solid polystyrene or polypropylene plastic.
I think is plystyrene
Sir please make a rooster spark gap for Tesla coil simplest one
Let's make over 1F capacitors! I someone comes next to your door ;D........ I accidentally shorted 4.7mF 350VDC cap.... Omg... ;D... Sound was like a sniper rifle next to the ear :DD....
NICE VID!
Nice
Sir, What will happen when we touch only single positive wire of flyback .
you get a shock
Ludic Science but sir I have Doubt that when we touch vandegraff generator we don't get shock due to higher potential over it. I thing same thing must be for flybak when we touch only single positive terminal having insulated foot at the bottom. Thanks!
Don't worry if you don't know
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Holy SH!T are you going to scale that up to like a stack and see what kind of arcs it does?
How make high voltage capacitor charger?
If you had five aluminum sheets, would it become a polar capacitor?
My guess is not
Cool
HOLLY CRAP THIS IS PERFECT 10/10
+1SUB IMMEDIATELY
Very looking for a capacitor to replace the 12 V 3 mAh battery of a motorcycle. To supply energy to the HHO gas burner😄
Nice project teacher \o/\o/\o/
Okok. I admit. Ludic vids are cool.
So- Its NOW OFFICIAL. Cool list accepts...
smfh. Oil, plates, hi voltage caps.... Cool...
👍😀😂
is it plastic or styrofoam and link to the video of voltage source
plastic
Is that a styrofoam plate??
Kavitha Hari no.. It's polystyrene plate.. Not foam... It's thin plastic plates
Show.
Tesla coil when? xD
Nice video ...styrofoam capacitor....
Cisar Vialpando not styrofoam... It was polystyrene plastic or polyethylene plastic
What happened to your aluminum foil?
That´s how it came from the store
Ludic Science Hmm, weird... Looks like it is corroded or something.
Thank you.