Persona Trinity Soul : The Forgotten Persona

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  • @skymaverick7315
    @skymaverick7315 9 місяців тому +862

    Persona Trinity Soul: As you get older, it's harder to use your persona without drugs
    Persona 2 Eternal Punishment: The fuck you talking about?

    • @NEETKitten
      @NEETKitten 9 місяців тому +134

      In P2 the drug was named Philemon.

    • @S-treme
      @S-treme 9 місяців тому +99

      Adachi want to know where is your TV

    • @sponge1234ify
      @sponge1234ify 9 місяців тому +41

      Revolver Jesus.

    • @SilentVinyl
      @SilentVinyl 9 місяців тому

      @@sponge1234ify Revolver Jesus needed drugs to use his persona

    • @OceanFragments
      @OceanFragments 9 місяців тому +23

      @@S-treme lol, see this is why I don't think it contradicts things. P3's MC is seeing losing a bit of control over his persona during the opening, and the SEES peeps have a unique condition to summon their personas into the real world. Meanwhile both P4 and P5's cast only seem to be able to tap into their power when already within the metaverse, which seems like a major element being overlooked, considering it's akin to Lucid Dreaming while you're active there. Even in the battle game, the Metaverse came to the real world in a Dark-Hour style field of influence. It should also be notable that even though 'growing out' of your persona might be something that can happen, Adachi was a bit of a two sided nutjob, not sure who he wanted to be when it came to justice or evil, and that could play a massive role in him utilizing a persona, since he's often hiding who he is.
      As for P2, they are ALSO trapped inside a sphere of influence created by Nyarlthotep, which simultaneously enables the use of their collective unconscious as a persona. So the pieces fall into place comfortably.

  • @MythicalHaven
    @MythicalHaven 2 роки тому +1217

    the only protagonist that actually has caring parents

    • @mizzix
      @mizzix 2 роки тому +128

      Makoto probably had caring parents, probably tatsuya too, and idk about naoya

    • @mizzix
      @mizzix 2 роки тому +4

      @Glitchgoat wow, i really gotta read that manga sometime.

    • @dodo-uz4ct
      @dodo-uz4ct Рік тому +7

      @Glitchgoat The Megumi story in this anime rips from Naoya's story.

    • @blvckgoogle
      @blvckgoogle Рік тому +36

      makoto’s parents DIED

    • @dougdimmadome2932
      @dougdimmadome2932 Рік тому +8

      The main reason he didn’t get a game

  • @GoldLink364
    @GoldLink364 9 місяців тому +182

    You forgot the best part to come from this anime.
    "I'M IN THE HOUSE LIKE CARPET"

  • @mystak3n
    @mystak3n 11 місяців тому +731

    This video found its way into my house, like carpet.

    • @lv4715
      @lv4715 10 місяців тому +35

      Sojiro and Dojima: WHERE ARE ALL THESE CARPETS COMING FROM?!

    • @Young_Link_.0
      @Young_Link_.0 9 місяців тому +54

      That john built up on the HILL.

    • @ArbitraryOutcome
      @ArbitraryOutcome 9 місяців тому +18

      And if there's too many heads on my blunt, I won't spark it, I'll put it in my pocket and save it like rocket fuel

    • @frostcore2214
      @frostcore2214 8 місяців тому +5

      ⁠@@ArbitraryOutcometill everybody’s gone, then it’s cool. Then I spark it up with my brother

    • @ArbitraryOutcome
      @ArbitraryOutcome 8 місяців тому +4

      @@frostcore2214 His momma named him Mo, but I call him Mo lover. And he's more than a cover, he's a quilt

  • @oriongear2499
    @oriongear2499 11 місяців тому +664

    I've said this a dozen times now, but I'd love to see Atlus re-write Persona Trinity Soul and have it serve as the template for Persona 6.

    • @Shadoxas
      @Shadoxas 11 місяців тому +32

      How can it serve as a template for p6 if P6 should be like years after persona 5 or like many fans want Elizabeth saving P3 Male protag. If we do get Trinity soul (reworked a bit) but as an actual sequel to fit in after P3 it would be weird cuz again the whole thing with Akihiko being useless and not mentioning SEES plus Mc of Trinity soul doesn’t have the power to have multiple personas.

    • @Lavendercandle1
      @Lavendercandle1 9 місяців тому +4

      I wouldn’t be surprised if this being a dlc for persona 3 reload. Or something similar to persona 5 phantoms

    • @thatartguy725
      @thatartguy725 9 місяців тому +3

      HUH ⁉@@Shadoxas

    • @oriongear2499
      @oriongear2499 9 місяців тому +28

      ⁠@@ShadoxasI’m not talking about Persona 6 being Trinity Soul but renamed to P6. I’m talking about borrowing certain aspects of Trinity Soul for P6 (the setting, some of the characters etc.)

    • @tartatovsky
      @tartatovsky 9 місяців тому +6

      ​@@Shadoxasreading comprehension. Its hard.

  • @dzigayu4944
    @dzigayu4944 10 місяців тому +186

    Adults being able to use Personas normally has been a thing since Persona 1. In fact, I'm pretty sure Persona 3 is the only mainline Persona game that doesn't feature at least one Persona user in their twenties or higher. Persona 1 has Kandori, the 2 duolgy has a plethora of adult Persona users, 4 has Adachi and 5 Maruki in the Royal version.

    • @wafflecone6968
      @wafflecone6968 9 місяців тому +19

      Eh what about takaya and jin?

    • @real1mem3s
      @real1mem3s 9 місяців тому +32

      Persona 5 Strikers has an adult Persona user also. Also Persona 5 Tactica has one too.

    • @arael3702
      @arael3702 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@wafflecone6968they're artificial persona user

    • @wafflecone6968
      @wafflecone6968 8 місяців тому +10

      ​@@arael3702 Eh they still count

    • @Blazing_Emblem_Natsumi
      @Blazing_Emblem_Natsumi 2 місяці тому +1

      @@wafflecone6968technically but also technically not. It’s complicated. Still even if you don’t count them the rest of the series is still there

  • @paulmiller7838
    @paulmiller7838 Рік тому +317

    As far as Persona 4 contradicting Trinity Souls, I would say that Arena explains that fairly well actually. The P3 crew are shocked to sed the P4 crew summon their personas without using an exterior device (evoker), whereas the P4 crew are stunned when they learn that the P3 crew can use their personas outside of the TV world. In other words, each incurson of shadows is unique and the effects on the persona users alters to the specific incursion. P3 needs invokers to summon but can do so even outside of Tartarus, P4 needs no such devices but are limited to the TV world, P5 must rip a mask off of their face (which looks bloody painful) and seemingly are relegated to palaces.

    • @elijahfyffe5176
      @elijahfyffe5176 Рік тому +82

      P3 users had to use evokers because the dark hour is so draining. The midnight channel inversely makes it a bit easier to summon them Akihiko in the arena games stated that he doesn’t need to use an evoker anymore

    • @literaryloser4470
      @literaryloser4470 11 місяців тому +54

      P5 can only use their personas in the Metaverse as Personas are manifestations of their personalities and the Metaverse is a world where cognitions come to life. That's why when they defeat the final boss and the Metaverse connection severs so does their access to their costumes and personas.
      You had the right idea but forgot Mementos

    • @lemonov3031
      @lemonov3031 11 місяців тому +41

      Wrong. Evoker is an external summoning device, making it possible to use a persona anywhere with no trouble, while the TV world influence has a special atmosphere which makes the summoning possible. That's why P3 characters don't use evokers when they are in the TV world as well. In P1/P2 it was made possible as normal via Philemon's power, who was weakened by the time of P3 and onward.

    • @tpuddin
      @tpuddin 9 місяців тому +23

      ​@@lemonov3031 in p3 itself, it's said that is possible to summon a persona without an evoker but it's very difficult.

    • @lemonov3031
      @lemonov3031 9 місяців тому +27

      @@tpuddin Yes, it's even confirmed further in Reload that Takaya doesn't use one because his determination is strong enough, and after the events of P3 Akihiko eventually learns to summon without an evoker too.

  • @scarlettross3862
    @scarlettross3862 2 роки тому +555

    Actually, it's persona 2 itself that contradicts trinity soul, since there are more than a character in their 20 that can use persona without problem. And persona 2 too they just summon persona, there's no trauma gun card masks or facing true self, so all of these things were already in persona 2. Still, this anime is good, and without some of these contradictory details could be canon without problem

    • @legoboy-ox2kx
      @legoboy-ox2kx 2 роки тому +119

      The reason the characters from Persona 2 have personas is a bit more complicated in nature than the later games. The characters in Persona 1 and 2 were chosen by Philemon directly, whereas in 3 onwards the MCs sign contracts in some way which means they had an option to opt out, instead of the role being forced on them. The other characters in P3 use evokers or similar methods, but it's only possible because of the dark hour, but P4 and P5 the MC gets their ability before any of their other teammates and in P4 the other 2 that are given the ability also shook hands with Izanami and in P5 only Joker and Akechi where given abilities because of Yaldaboath

    • @paulmiller7838
      @paulmiller7838 Рік тому +35

      Joker does not get his personal before Morgana, you as the player only have access to Joker first. However it is made clear that Morgana already had access to their Persona prior to Joker pulling off his mask in rebellion.

    • @Tasty_Tango45
      @Tasty_Tango45 Рік тому +19

      That really doesn’t matter since Atlus stopped caring about 2 after 3 was released lol. I don’t they were thinking of the logistics of a game they didn’t make. (Referring to the change in staff and writers)

    • @lemonov3031
      @lemonov3031 11 місяців тому +18

      ​@@legoboy-ox2kxNo, in P3 they can summon whenever they want to, as long as they use an evoker. If you give P4 and P5 characters evokers, they would as well.

    • @Snowstorm...
      @Snowstorm... 10 місяців тому +9

      ​@@lemonov3031 Well in P3 the Evokers work off of the user accepting their mortality while they fire it, so I'm not sure you could just hand one to say Joker and expect him to be able to use it. Especially since fundamentally, their Personas were formed from rebellion or whatever so it might not even work at all
      Although yes, Evokers can be used whenever and I'm surprised more people don't know that.

  • @Sillybeanz
    @Sillybeanz 3 роки тому +247

    Wow we have everything from persona a protagonist moving to a new town to stay with someone for the year, a detective that attempts to suprise you with a persona, a murder mystery, a God to fight at the end

  • @Diego35HD
    @Diego35HD 2 роки тому +385

    I like to think Trinity Soul is canon, just making minor adjustements to the story and some concepts would make it fit nicely

    • @shelbybayer200
      @shelbybayer200 2 роки тому +10

      It was never Canon

    • @shrimpshufflr7745
      @shrimpshufflr7745 2 роки тому +19

      @@shelbybayer200 ok shelby

    • @Diego35HD
      @Diego35HD 2 роки тому +39

      @@shelbybayer200 I mean, aside from Akihiko and the age limit there's nothing colliding with the rest of the franchise

    • @maramba32
      @maramba32 Рік тому

      Maybe one day

    • @braydenleaderofthetirkins1143
      @braydenleaderofthetirkins1143 10 місяців тому +5

      @@Diego35HDWell, neither do any other personas. Persona 3 was the last non-spinoff to actually show characters that would be important in future games. Rise is relegated to a poster in P5.

  • @TrivatorGaming
    @TrivatorGaming 2 роки тому +149

    Makes me wish there was more anime original Persona enteries starring non-wildcards

    • @TrivatorGaming
      @TrivatorGaming 2 роки тому +18

      Heck I'm even surprised no UA-camr has tried to make an Abridged parody of the series, it would really help reintroduce people to it.

    • @spydersoup8447
      @spydersoup8447 2 роки тому +11

      Does the stage plays and manga count as having a cast of characters without the Wild Card ability? Well, technically, the protags in those still have their Wild Card ability, but they never at any point actually use it and always stick with their starter Persona.

    • @TrivatorGaming
      @TrivatorGaming 2 роки тому +6

      @@spydersoup8447 I don't really count those because they still have access to the Velvet Room

    • @spydersoup8447
      @spydersoup8447 2 роки тому +6

      @@TrivatorGaming That's a good point. Still, feels weird that in those, they never actually use their Wild Card ability and still have access to the Velvet Room.

    • @Windermed
      @Windermed 2 роки тому +15

      It’s not an Anime but Persona 1 and Person 2’s duology doesn’t use the wild card trope

  • @thecancerfest4514
    @thecancerfest4514 2 роки тому +160

    In my opinion this was somewhat a botched result of Atlus not knowing where to go after the huge milestone which Persona 3 was. You can see a mix between P3 social story line and Persona 2 noiresque-like notion.
    This was probably a mixture a little too much shaken for the player of an IP that just got out of indie and waltzed right into mainstream. (Of course the full process happened after P5 but at that moment Atlus made a breakthrough).
    Still I liked the show for its dry almost crispy atmosphere. It came to me more as a tribute to P2 rather than P3.

    • @shelbybayer200
      @shelbybayer200 9 місяців тому +3

      Atlus doesn't own Trinity Soul

    • @thecancerfest4514
      @thecancerfest4514 9 місяців тому +6

      @@shelbybayer200 I honestly didn’t know that. Thank you for your response. Well, that explains a lot.

  • @ma-08bigzam78
    @ma-08bigzam78 2 роки тому +158

    12:35 Persona 1 and Persona 2: Eternal Punishment contradict Trinity Soul's lore as well, with Kandori, a major antagonist in both games, being fully capable of utilizing a Persona despite being in his late twenties (P1) and his early thirties (P2: EP). Same goes for the majority of party members in Eternal Punishment too, with Maya, Ulala, and Katsuya being well into their twenties and Baofu, the oldest of the cast, being 32 years old and yet they all can use their Personas with no problems

    • @totallynotkhobsessed
      @totallynotkhobsessed Рік тому +32

      Yuki, Nanjo and Elly are also adults

    • @AnthonyKnighton-e1i
      @AnthonyKnighton-e1i Рік тому +9

      These modern Persona fans man..

    • @Eduardo-ll7eg
      @Eduardo-ll7eg 9 місяців тому +18

      Zenkichi in 5 strikers is also another adult user who awakened as an adult, trinity soul is non canon after all hence the liberties they took for their narrative.
      Edit: obviously strikers is long after trinity soul but it shows that it still remains the case that adults can have personas.

    • @TheBlackSeraph
      @TheBlackSeraph 9 місяців тому +3

      The Nyarlohothep trilogy has Philemon unlock people's access to their personas after being summoned during the Persona game (also the same reason why everyone has access to the Velvet Room, not just the Fool). I believe Philemon & Nyarlohothep agreed to leave humanity alone after EP, but I'm not sure because I haven't played it. Persona 3 onward has had characters limited to 1 Persona each (aside from the Fool), often with complications or limitations, so the nature of acquisition had changed so equating Persona usage with age was not unreasonable for the time.
      I would dispute that Persona 4's killer necessarily negates this theory since their Persona is granted to them by a divine entity, although Zenkichi Hasegawa from Persona 5 Strikers would, given he awakens to Valjean as an adult.

    • @real1mem3s
      @real1mem3s 9 місяців тому

      ​@Eduardo-ll7eg also, there's an adult in P5 Tactica that has a Persona.

  • @ren_suzugamori1427
    @ren_suzugamori1427 2 роки тому +207

    Here's why I think Shadow Extraction makes one euphoric. The Shadow, according to Carl Yung, is the self, that is understandable to society, you don't want anyone to see. If you let out the shadow, like in counseling or writing it in a journal, it feels good, like you lifted a weight off your chest. That's the sense of euphoria. Yes, the Shadow may be a deviant, I get that! Letting it out where it doesn't harm anyone is the key to balancing the Shadow and the Persona.

    • @ren_suzugamori1427
      @ren_suzugamori1427 2 роки тому +37

      I meant to say the shadow is the side that is not respected to society, not understandable. I don't know what I was typing. I'm not editing because I don't wanna lose that heart

    • @NobleAbsinthe
      @NobleAbsinthe  2 роки тому +31

      @@ren_suzugamori1427 i understood the core of what you getting across. It's not like a typo or something invalidates the entire post.

    • @ren_suzugamori1427
      @ren_suzugamori1427 2 роки тому +9

      @@NobleAbsinthe thank you. I kind of see this Persona series as an alternate timeline. We get this or Persona 4

    • @-Siknakaliux-II
      @-Siknakaliux-II 11 місяців тому

      What's it do when someone doesn't have a persona?

    • @Korbreeto
      @Korbreeto 7 місяців тому

      @@-Siknakaliux-II isnt it (at least in this) everyone has a persona/shadow its just that some people cant summon them and its just dormant inside them

  • @AlmirYandi20
    @AlmirYandi20 9 місяців тому +31

    This anime try to sell Gloomy theme of Persona 3 but they get it wrong, because what made people love P3 is for its lively story and story telling that made the tragic end more meaningful (like loosing a friend)

  • @klaus.sfc01official30
    @klaus.sfc01official30 9 місяців тому +54

    This persona makes me feel in the house like carpet. Not gonna lie.

  • @ichoukyojaku
    @ichoukyojaku 5 місяців тому +5

    The anime is set in Toyama City, Toyama Prefecture, where I live. Some of the scenery remains the same, while others have changed.

  • @dr4st1c5
    @dr4st1c5 2 роки тому +73

    12:42 spoilers from Persona 5 Scramble: The phantom strikers:
    Today the oldest Persona user is Zenkichi Hasegawa aka Wolf (+40 years)

    • @Klonoahedgehog
      @Klonoahedgehog 2 роки тому +27

      I find it funny that this anime takes place like a year or two after Strikers and yet Strikers gives it it's biggest contradiciton.

  • @Fodimin
    @Fodimin 9 місяців тому +28

    Only protagonist who's in the house like carpet

  • @icaughtalopunny
    @icaughtalopunny Рік тому +136

    Trinity soul has amazing ost as well, like Soul Drive and Burning Men’s Soul, the latter having some of the best lyrics I’ve ever seen written.

    • @rucksack_kh
      @rucksack_kh 11 місяців тому +56

      It's good like velvet turtle

    • @epicalglory5099
      @epicalglory5099 11 місяців тому +40

      Are you talking about carpet?

    • @Phoenix0F8
      @Phoenix0F8 11 місяців тому +31

      You're more than a cover for making this observation. You're a quilt.

    • @kidnamedelevator3433
      @kidnamedelevator3433 10 місяців тому +25

      im in the house like carpet

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 9 місяців тому +19

      About as good as that one house John built on the hill

  • @DragonZlayerx12
    @DragonZlayerx12 5 місяців тому +3

    Atlas has so much potential for this series outside of 3,4and 5. And even with those numbered titles, there is still so much that we can benefit from. There are lots of books left untranslated. I think the West is ready for Persona. I think there is a massive fan base that just wants more.

  • @spydersoup8447
    @spydersoup8447 2 роки тому +239

    I think the reason for Shin not being included in the 25th merch along side the other 7 protagonist is one may think it's because many people hated this and declared it non canon, similar to the changes made for the Persona 3 stage and anime adaptations (With the bit you mentioned about Kanaru, the bit you said "How familiar...", that's only in the Persona 3 stage plays and movies, in the game, Yukari is actually the canon love interest and the game would give big hints about it, even making it a big plot element in The Answer), but in one video I saw, it's actually because Atlus doesn't really own the rights to Trinity Soul surprisingly. Also, one thing I'd like to point out is that recently all the Persona animes were all shown in this one source in this marathon in a Japanese stream service as one of the announcements for the September announcement, even Trinity Soul was featured in there, despite Shin not even being featured at all in any of the 25th anniversary merch. So, that's pretty much the only time Trinity Soul got any sorta attention for the 25th Anniversary of Persona celebration so far. I'm really hoping this would get a reboot where it would feature elements from future Persona games like 4 and 5 while still being more of a Persona 3 sequel as well as fix up a lot of the issues. Also, someone actually told me that Trinity Soul actually introduced a few elements that the Persona 4 Arena games would use.

    • @spydersoup8447
      @spydersoup8447 2 роки тому +29

      Also, to correct you on something, the two art you showed with Shin, those are promo art for Persona concerts from 2009 to 2011.

    • @MexicanMeijin
      @MexicanMeijin 2 роки тому +24

      Notice the 25th anniversary includes *Game* protagonists
      Trinity soul doesn't have a game sadly so maybe that's another reason as to why it's not included

    • @ethanmull6476
      @ethanmull6476 2 роки тому +4

      That’s a lotta words

    • @abrahamambriz892
      @abrahamambriz892 2 роки тому +3

      It NEEEEEEEEDS a reboot!

    • @Handlelesswithme
      @Handlelesswithme Рік тому +2

      Incorrect all persona social links are cannon according to Atlus
      So the Harem route was cannon in persona 3 and that better explain the events in the answer

  • @nrreno
    @nrreno 2 роки тому +113

    Check it out im in da house like carpet

    • @LeaveMeAloneFBI
      @LeaveMeAloneFBI 2 роки тому +27

      And if there's too many hits on my blunt

    • @nrreno
      @nrreno 2 роки тому +26

      @@LeaveMeAloneFBI i wont spark it and ill put it in my pocket and save it like rocket fuel

    • @lightningmcseed7303
      @lightningmcseed7303 9 місяців тому +13

      till everybody's gone, and it's cool
      Then I spark it up with my brother

    • @redstreak9430
      @redstreak9430 6 місяців тому +6

      His momma named him Mo, but I call him Mo' Lover
      And he's more than a cover, he's a quilt

    • @Alex-zb7gz
      @Alex-zb7gz 4 місяці тому +5

      We're putting shit together like the house that John built.

  • @lifelesssky7834
    @lifelesssky7834 2 місяці тому +3

    yeah, persona trinity might be forgetten.
    but, I won't forget burning man soul😂

  • @kjbionicle
    @kjbionicle 8 місяців тому +4

    I know people love pointing out the contradiction of "adults can't summon personas" by talking about Adachi from P4 or the cast of P2: Eternal Punishment... But it's so often ignored what Kanaru says in one of the episodes about that. She says that she doesn't believe that adults actually lose their Persona's when they grow up, but subconsciously suppress because of this need to be "more adult". Not exactly what she says, but do forgive me it's been years since I watched this. Which means it's not that the Adachi or Maya shouldn't be able to summon Persona's... But more of that because of their psyche, mental state, or personality, they are able to summon one.
    Thing is, we should also look at the context as a whole as to why Trinity Soul even makes mention of this; And while this is slightly meta, it is supposed to explain why most if not almost all Persona users are teenagers. It's not that adults "can't", it's just that teenagers are more predisposed to have one. Teenage life is often some of the most hectic years when it comes to finding oneself. And a lot of teenagers focus on that and I think that is why they're more predisposed to have one. And that's why adults, kids, dogs, or even shadows being able to summon personas is an exceptional thing where it has a lot to do with either circumstance (like a traumatic event), or mentality.

    • @kjbionicle
      @kjbionicle 7 місяців тому +1

      Additionally I like to think the reason Akihiko can't summon his Persona anymore is because in Trinity Soul he seems much more calm and collected; Which makes me want to think that he's been able to more or less move past his traumas, doesn't feel the need to overcompensate with his brawn anymore, and is in a stable moment in his life. And since he's a cop now, has also subconsciously fallen into putting up a more "society-approved" outward Persona. Aaaaaaand maybe that's why Akihiko seems "not like himself" or "boring" in TS. He's just grown up. And sometimes being grown up is boring and mundane.
      Losing your Persona doesn't always have to be a thing imo. Might just mean you don't need it anymore.

    • @kjbionicle
      @kjbionicle 7 місяців тому +1

      The "adults" needing to take drugs to keep using their Persona's feel like a rather heavy handed way of representing needing medication for mental illness due to trauma that as an adult they still haven't been able to move past. Not sure how I feel about that but just what I think it might mean based on other points made in the video and heavy handed metaphors.

    • @KillerStar565
      @KillerStar565 5 місяців тому

      ​@@kjbionicle Frustrating how person fans do not care about anything except action. It's like they don't know what "Persona" is about at all. I blame persona 4 and 5.

  • @chandra_creator
    @chandra_creator 9 місяців тому +18

    2:08 igor being some random guy on the street is hilarious

  • @ajflink
    @ajflink Рік тому +27

    The fact that you cannot be an adult to use a persona or you die is mentioned in this anime and nowhere else in the Persona series really tells you that the creators behind the Persona game series did not like that concept.
    I think it is a dumb concept. So, you're telling me that when all the characters from Persona 1 to 5 grow up that they violently die if they try using their persona? That's a bit too gruesome. Also, if I remember correctly, some were already adults (or can be considered young adults).

    • @Shadoxas
      @Shadoxas 11 місяців тому +14

      Kek I can see Akihiko trying to summon his and he suddenly violently blows up.

  • @supersayainasriel6745
    @supersayainasriel6745 Рік тому +50

    Actually water does expire, or more accurately the bottle its in expires, causing the water to leach in chemicals from it contaminating it.

  • @Oisc.
    @Oisc. 2 місяці тому +1

    Every character in this anime looks like an OC.

  • @animefan22897
    @animefan22897 Рік тому +10

    I want to thank you for making this video. I'm making a dnd campaign of persona for my friends that haven't played the game. This gave me ideas for it.

  • @thethirdpurseowner
    @thethirdpurseowner 9 місяців тому +15

    Shin’s design might actually come from a scrapped P3 protagonist concept; if you look at the early footage from when it was going to have an isometric perspective, the protagonist design looks a lot like Shin.

  • @streetgamer3452
    @streetgamer3452 9 місяців тому +7

    Persona 1 and 2 had them summon via normal means and not a special way in fact no one needs to do that, they just do it for concentration. Also, P2 is the one that rejects this shows canon because Maya was 20. Also also, P1 and P2 don’t entirely have characters progression tied to the Mc being around

  • @Gregsusername
    @Gregsusername 9 місяців тому +4

    i wanna point out that before persona 4 atlus had a very different way of having you see the world and the mechanics of personas and i'm actually really sad it didn't stay like this. Both persona 3 and trinity soul have the characters taking drugs to keep their personas in check with only your group in persona 3 being any different. it paints having a persona as a massive burden and undertaking unlike having a pokemon or having a stand. when you think of having Star Platinum you think of being this action movie hero who punches shit till it dies with magical powers. if persona had kept going like this having a persona would almost always mean sacrificing so much of yourself and putting yourself through so much pain to use that no one would ever really want one. i kinda wish atlus kept it like that. now having a persona is just WOAH CHECK OUT THIS SUPER RAD POWER and not a topic that should be taken seriously like how most mega ten games handle things.

  • @makotoamamiya2442
    @makotoamamiya2442 2 роки тому +38

    One thing to note is not just persona 4 but the cast of persona 2 eternal punishment (which was before persona 3) the entire cast were adult persona users so the whole not having a persona at adulthood made zero sense

  • @alsoviperlicious
    @alsoviperlicious 9 місяців тому +3

    I was sold first ten seconds pls continue to make such high quality SMT content so I don't have to thanks~

  • @HarbingerYT
    @HarbingerYT 7 місяців тому +4

    "As you get older, it gets harder to summon your Personas"
    Adachi, Maruki, Zenkichi, Toshiro, Katsuya, Kandori and Baofu would like to have a word with you.

  • @thoryvos3095
    @thoryvos3095 2 місяці тому +1

    I came to this video after having just finished Episode Aigis from Persona 3 Reload, wondering if Trinity Soul had any plot implications towards the story of P3. But as it turns out that is not the case at all and I didn't miss much.

  • @henryd98
    @henryd98 5 днів тому +1

    Your intro made me laugh so much i suscribed inmediately

  • @cozydayzandnightz
    @cozydayzandnightz Рік тому +15

    I think I knew of the anime when it came out, but the whole semi-transparent Persona thing was a big turn off and I never finished it. I will say though, of all the interactions with Igor in the anime, mange and games, that brief interaction in Ep1 was perfection. I think it might even be my favorite scene of the whole anime, it's so mysterious, eerie and perfect for his character. I don't think I'll ever give a second chance to this anime, but it was definitely worth the watch to check out this little essay.

  • @KradDrows
    @KradDrows 2 роки тому +10

    Nice video man, just what i was waiting for. Good analysis to this anime. This is one of my favorites, isn't really good, right, but i like the serious and mystery atmosphere.

  • @pencilquest
    @pencilquest 8 місяців тому +2

    You forgot to mention that the OP is an absolute banger.

  • @alleosussquirt8041
    @alleosussquirt8041 3 роки тому +31

    It isn't forgotten if you never wanted to remember it to begin with.

  • @Lightninja-Supertom
    @Lightninja-Supertom 9 місяців тому +6

    theory: different persona summon types have different restrictions. ones that don't have a prerequisite may have the limitation of age.

  • @Mageman17
    @Mageman17 3 роки тому +72

    Which studio animated this again? I read in passing on old gamefaqs threads that the animation studio who did this also made the anime scenes for Persona 4 PS2.

    • @Onichanel.
      @Onichanel. 3 роки тому +21

      It's was A1 Pictures if I'm not mistaken.

    • @Mageman17
      @Mageman17 3 роки тому +9

      @@Onichanel. thanks for the response. They didn't do too bad with the animation here. Did a talent exodus happen at some point?

    • @MaxusFox23
      @MaxusFox23 11 місяців тому +6

      ​​​​@@Mageman17 It's not the amount of animators who worked on a series, it depends on the priority given within the season lineup. That's what determines where the animation is done.
      Nowadays, an anime's animation quality depends on whether it was drawn directly in-studio or outsourced to a sister branch of said studio (be it in Japan or overseas).
      For example, Sailor Moon Crystal S1-2 animation was outsourced to the Philippines, hence why the animation takes real sharp nosedives at times. Why do that for one of Toei's most iconic series? It's cost effective. They preferred to cut corners just to not spend much money.
      And now you know why P5A looks like sh*t at times.

  • @nordinreecendo512
    @nordinreecendo512 7 місяців тому +1

    Wait... his name is Shin? When are we gonna get a protagonist named Megami and another named Tensei?

  • @ladyvanitas3446
    @ladyvanitas3446 9 місяців тому +5

    I watched this first few episodes a very long time ago and assumed it was Persona 1. When I later experienced Persona 1, I just assumed I had a fever dream haha

  • @knucklehead5322
    @knucklehead5322 9 місяців тому +10

    This feels like fanfic and that's honestly one of the coolest things about it

  • @ElizabethZryd
    @ElizabethZryd Рік тому +10

    Thank goodness I'm not the only one who remembers this series. I watched this in college without having any prior knowledge of the Persona series. I still think of it from time to time and I look back on Trinity Soul fondly. I need to get the second DVD set to complete the anime and give this a rewatch at some point.

  • @spvvky
    @spvvky 9 місяців тому +1

    You unlocked a memory I saw at least part of this somewhere and I can't even recall where?? My brain is saying it must've been on US tv somewhere but maybe I just tried it on one of those sites. Nice that you spotlighted something that could easily become lost media! I subbed just to help out.
    Edit: Yeah I have this as "dropped" on anilist but this video makes me wanna give it another go.

  • @thenerdwonder5327
    @thenerdwonder5327 3 роки тому +37

    Im goanna be that asshole.
    Technically, even before P4 was released, Trinity Soul makes no sense with adults with persona.
    The cast of P2 part 2 (and two members of part 1) are all adults.
    So trinity contradicts the real lore of the series by ignoring the past titles.

    • @NobleAbsinthe
      @NobleAbsinthe  3 роки тому +16

      You're not an asshole. I haven't play p2 or p2.5 yet because I was told 2. 5 doesn't have a full English patch yet. And I kinda assumed they were teens. I'll read up on it now. Hope you stick around for more content in the future!

    • @calebgoodman2076
      @calebgoodman2076 3 роки тому +2

      That’s because it’s confirmed to be another universe.

    • @thenerdwonder5327
      @thenerdwonder5327 3 роки тому +4

      @@NobleAbsinthe Absolutley! I'll stick around! Love me some SMT stuff!
      Also, fret not! Both Persona 2 games have finally been released in English! Innocent Sin(pt1) got a PSP remaster that was brought over the west. Sadly, eternal punishment(pt2) remaster was not brought over, but it was released in the west in the PS1 era....sadly, its very MURICAnized from what i hear.
      You can also get the psp remaster of persona 1 so you dont have to deal with the MURICAnized edition we got for the PS1

    • @shrimpshufflr7745
      @shrimpshufflr7745 2 роки тому

      Throw doesn’t make sense because literally everyone in persona 2 was hand chosen by Philemon, so they can be whatever afr

    • @ptcribeiro4556
      @ptcribeiro4556 Рік тому

      ​@@shrimpshufflr7745what about Akihiko and Mitsuru and Shinjiro? They are all 18, same as Makoto and Haru from Persona 5

  • @TheBraveBlaze
    @TheBraveBlaze 9 місяців тому +4

    @21:46 sparked a memory
    So during my first watch of Kamen Rider Blade, there's an entire arc with Garren that's a giant anti-drugs message:
    It's basically "Don't do drugs, you'll isolate yourself from your friends and family and become dependant, and your Dollar Store M.Bison drug dealer will kill your girlfriend if you try to kick the habit."
    (Kamen Rider W's almost-entire schtick counts too, a lot of the early Dopants are basically addicts strung out on the effects of using Memory direct into their body to escape the issues in their lives)
    There's something about the early 00's public morals messaging in Japan that's just so unwieldy that it's almost comical.

  • @Talessaga2
    @Talessaga2 9 місяців тому +2

    I know Trinity Soul got decanonized around the time of Persona 4 Arena

  • @Sillybeanz
    @Sillybeanz 3 роки тому +43

    But adachi first fuses with his shadow or something also he uses it in the TV world so it makes sense why adachi has a persona and I guess the same goes for zenkichi because hes in the metaverse

    • @shelbybayer200
      @shelbybayer200 2 роки тому +8

      Persona 2 duology
      Boafu is 30 and uses a Persona
      In the normal world

    • @shrimpshufflr7745
      @shrimpshufflr7745 2 роки тому

      @@shelbybayer200 Baofu and the other P2 persona users were literally chosen by Philemln

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 9 місяців тому +5

      ​@@shrimpshufflr7745
      Baofu wasn't, actually, he got his persona like way before the main plot while working in Taiwan or something

  • @popeyeman3563
    @popeyeman3563 3 роки тому +8

    i wish this had more views

  • @hectorgaellara9800
    @hectorgaellara9800 2 роки тому +42

    Persona 6 is Trinity Soul
    Save my comment

    • @oriongear2499
      @oriongear2499 11 місяців тому +6

      I can't be made into Persona 6 in it's current state, but with a bit of retconning and changes, it could work as P6.

  • @TheP1ckle
    @TheP1ckle Рік тому +10

    Not even persona 4, it was retconned even before it existed; persona 2 eternal punishment

  • @_pxwerless
    @_pxwerless 7 місяців тому

    I’ve been meaning to watch it but I never remembered to buy it off Amazon, I’m glad this video reached my recommended

  • @meruru1745
    @meruru1745 9 місяців тому

    Back in 2010, when I really got into persona 3 FES. I didn't have internet at the time. I've seen the picture with Shin, and I had no idea who that was until today!

  • @scy2124
    @scy2124 3 роки тому +9

    It's really good watching your explanation about this persona, your voice give more vibe!

  • @renchikun
    @renchikun Рік тому +6

    I watched 1 episode, and that was just straight up even creepier than any SMT game

  • @zaqareemalcolm
    @zaqareemalcolm 9 місяців тому +1

    the lazy copout answer is because the concept of a multiverse applies to Persona too (being very important to a good chunk of Q2, as well as why the Persona series even exists in the first place, much less exist past Innocent Sin), there probably are timelines where Trinity Soul happened

  • @danielkeliger5514
    @danielkeliger5514 9 місяців тому +1

    I didn’t know much about Persona, but for some reason I realy resonated by the chill wibes while feeling a bit ackward at the same time. For some reason the snow, cooking and some of the music stuck with me. Not the most profound show I have ever watched but I atached to it somehow.

  • @JoKeRs_Kidol
    @JoKeRs_Kidol 5 місяців тому +1

    Check it out, im in the house like carpet

  • @pIllowVent84
    @pIllowVent84 7 місяців тому +1

    Check it out.
    I’m in the house like carpet.

  • @SelphoZed
    @SelphoZed 2 роки тому +14

    The only thing I really remember from this is that supposedly Jun and the sister share the same body

  • @zeroxiiimk2
    @zeroxiiimk2 7 місяців тому

    Great video man. The explanation and analysis done by you was really nice to watch.

  • @unleashed2724
    @unleashed2724 9 місяців тому +1

    I feel like if this was a game, it would have been done better because anime usually has time constraints that they need to meet, and there's only so much you can include in an anime, if it's not a long running series.

  • @Ilia_Salnicov
    @Ilia_Salnicov 9 місяців тому +2

    5:02 Kamoshida!? What are you doing here!?
    (This is just a joke, please don't argue.)

  • @vroomvroom1627
    @vroomvroom1627 2 роки тому +17

    Check it out, I'm in the house like carpet

  • @zbaksh101
    @zbaksh101 9 місяців тому +1

    I remember this anime from back in college. I got halfway through it but never finished it lol.
    I was hoping there would've been a crossover 5 and Trinity soul.

  • @srchipiron9525
    @srchipiron9525 8 місяців тому +2

    CHECK IT OUT IM IN THE HOUSE LIKE CARPET

  • @farhanzaman436
    @farhanzaman436 Рік тому +14

    Persona 6 should just be a trinity soul remake
    Meaning the original story but edited to be more in line with the games

    • @Shadoxas
      @Shadoxas 11 місяців тому +6

      It better work in tangent with p3 and p5/p5s then. Akihiko also needs to be useful and able to use his persona plus they should actually bring back previous game casts.

  • @DaxmathecoolNobodie
    @DaxmathecoolNobodie 9 місяців тому +1

    Maybe the existence of Adachi doesnt contradict TS. I mean *spoilers* he did get his powers directly from a god rather that having the potential like in 3. My theory would be that getting your persona that way instead of awakening to it transends normal rules.

  • @supercoolmaniajon265
    @supercoolmaniajon265 9 місяців тому +1

    When I saw the personas were transparent I immediately thought of the Jojo OVA.

  • @darkfent
    @darkfent 9 місяців тому

    Thou hath awakened something within the sea of my souls...dang I forgot this existed.

  • @That_Ifrit_Guy
    @That_Ifrit_Guy 9 місяців тому +2

    It's been a WHILE since I watched the anime so I may be be forgetting it, but you not mentioning it in the video also makes me think it wasn't really a thing in the anime.
    But Personas and Shadows are deeply routed in Psychology and what have you (As I'm sure most people know)
    But the idea of a piece of Persona fiction that doesn't involve that or acknowledge it feels like someone saw the cliffnotes of Persona 3 and just went "Oh okay, they are kinda like personal pokemon, got it." Missing the whole point of that they meant and what shadows and ego mean nether, which is something that is a through line throughout the whole series (With Persona 3 Journey arguably being the one with the weakest ties to this.)
    I get why the show was made non-canon not due to the plot or characters or anything like that, it's mainly because it feels like it missed one of the main theme of what the persona games have in common, being the relationship between Personas and Shadows and the effect that can have on a person and the people around them along with the collective unconscious.
    All that being said, great video~

  • @ritikvibhani5557
    @ritikvibhani5557 9 місяців тому

    Really like this was feeling the surprise of use some more music

  • @Snzn_7
    @Snzn_7 8 місяців тому +1

    P5 anime fights for some reason is less flashier than the fights for Trinity soil

  • @texben123
    @texben123 2 місяці тому

    Persona Trinity soul, I think takes place 10 years in the future. We’re a bunch of teenagers have their bodies ripped inside out by having their persona stolen by your serial killer that’s what I remember???
    And a funny thing is this anime got me started on persona in the first place cause I never heard of it until I saw this anime . Then I saw UA-cam video, about persona 3 let’s play, which is how I got introduced to the entire series.

  • @JAMSP00N
    @JAMSP00N 9 місяців тому +2

    never thought id get to share a trinity soul fun fact in my life but hey
    around 28:40 you mention that a whale's feather really should've been read and explained to the audience. aniplex and nis america clearly agreed, because the volume 1 premium edition dvd box set comes with a hardcover copy of the in-universe children's book - "written by shigeru kanzato and illustrated by haruka kanzato"
    its not very good! but the art is very appealing. fitting!

  • @eligonzales186
    @eligonzales186 9 місяців тому

    I've known this back in the same year it was released.

  • @makotonarukami7468
    @makotonarukami7468 8 днів тому

    I have a fantasy where if Persona 6 be a thing which will eventually become a thing they're going to use almost like the same character models they use for this one

  • @Ravensgale
    @Ravensgale 9 місяців тому +2

    As someone who loves the Persona series and most of the adjacent series like Digital Devil Saga and the Raidou Kuzonoha games, I always found Trinity Soul to be an aggressively mid side story that was non-canon. Even revisiting it after years later it's still pretty mid, but I can see what they were trying to do.

  • @houraisheperd9721
    @houraisheperd9721 9 місяців тому

    I greatly respect that you didn't self-censor like so many people on this terrible platform do. Also, protein is a major part of Akihiko's character only in later games, so it makes sense that an anime made only a year after it wouldn't mention it. After all, it was only mentioned once in the game, and only as part of a missable sidequest.

  • @ricardomiles2957
    @ricardomiles2957 9 місяців тому +2

    12:38 I don't really think retcon is the righr term for that, since each game have slightly different changes in rules and all that. The use of pills to interfer with the persona seems to be vaguely based on surpressants pilla in p3

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher 10 місяців тому +3

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Atlus just casually drops Trinity Soul as a game

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 2 роки тому +7

    i love that the copyright bots took down all the openings here

  • @sainttan
    @sainttan 9 місяців тому +1

    Akihiko in this anime became a cop. And in the game, Persona 4 Arena, he ia planning to be one.
    Meaning it's a call back to this anime.

  • @epicalglory5099
    @epicalglory5099 11 місяців тому

    I always remember about Kanaru death scene and the first ending song

  • @skinnyyoungjiggy4471
    @skinnyyoungjiggy4471 7 місяців тому

    the concept for this show is pretty cool. it would've been such a good story for another game. like imagine a Persona User antagonist who, instead of being a wild card, they steal other people's persona's :0 i think that'd be sick :P
    also couldn't the reason Adachi can use a persona be because they are in the TV world? they're in the real world in Trinity soul, so maybe that's why they have to use the drugs? idk

  • @sociallyinept01
    @sociallyinept01 Рік тому +8

    the sole reason on why i even discovered this persona series is because of the dude who rapped absolute fire
    cause im in the house like carpet

  • @akirahisui-lucario5636
    @akirahisui-lucario5636 2 місяці тому

    Persona Trinity Soul deserves a reboot

  • @rickwong9049
    @rickwong9049 9 місяців тому +1

    Set ten years after Persona 3 event? Must be a reference to Yakuza 1 Fishiki.

  • @SilentVinyl
    @SilentVinyl 9 місяців тому +1

    Average is truly the best description for Persona Trinity Soul

  • @save_zawarudo
    @save_zawarudo 9 місяців тому +1

    glad the old people cant have personas idea was scraped otherwise we wouldnt have characters like zenkichi from P5S

  • @realnito6422
    @realnito6422 9 місяців тому +1

    That Adachi Doug Walker is so cursed

  • @rosarioscout7982
    @rosarioscout7982 10 місяців тому

    1:16 I never knew THAT'S who that was, I'd seen the name Trinity Soul before, but damn, you opened my eyes here, I'm gonna see what else you got.

  • @couchpotater2541
    @couchpotater2541 Рік тому +2

    If this storyline and laws about personas WERE canon, Zenkichi From P5 Strikers Wouldn't make sense either

  • @CritikalJari
    @CritikalJari 9 місяців тому

    Hope you havent given up on this channel, this was a cool video

  • @devinbannish1469
    @devinbannish1469 9 місяців тому +2

    Neat. Never heard of this.