Ive got a polo 6r gti, and Im on 100000km and havent had much problems with mine at all. The only issue I had was one of my cooling fans motor that was burnt out. Otherwise I had no other issues. As for the oil usage, I cant say I’ve had that problem. I’ve got a stage 2 setup on the car and it seems to be running fine. I even put it in drag strip a few times and had no issues. I would say mines held up pretty well overs the years. I love it.
That's great news, sounds like you have a "Friday car", she's a keeper! Our findings were that these are the most common issues that have been experienced by many owners. It's quite possible to own any car and not experience any of the common faults, our aim is always to educate so that if you do buy one these Polo's that you are aware of the possible issues that you could experience.
@@bayandamokoena4882 Hey man, like @Wheel Index said it could just be that my car is a Friday car. Its a 2014 model so it does come with the revised CTHE motor, rather than the CAV. And it feels special.. runs stronger than the others. Think its the larger turbo(K03S) that came on the revised 6R GTI, Plus the car always had dsg software, which 100% has saved my gearbox. I would say that my stage 2 setup has outlasted stock mapped cars. How has your experience been?
I actually don't own one😅 I'm a big fan I love the sound of the exhaust but so many people have complained about the gearbox, I was thinking of a 6c gti instead
@@bayandamokoena4882 The 6c has the exact same gearbox and therefore also have problems with the gearbox, unless you go for a manual one. But if these cars are looked after, they dont give much problems. As simple as allowing the engine/oil to get up to temperature before driving it hard, can go a long way. And gearbox software is a must, standard is no good.
I had one from new. (2014 model) Timing chain went at 32 000 km (the timing chain does not break but the fail point is the hydraulic chain tensioner), fortunately no major engine damage & dealership replaced the timing chain under "goodwill clause". DSG clutch shudder started at 43000 km and DSG failed at 46000 km (metatronics failure and a worn dual mass flywheel) Car was out of warranty (time wise) but I fought VW SA, eventually VW Germany replaced the entire DSG at no cost to me, but all this took 4 months. Had it back one month and traded it back to VW and got the new POLO GTI 2.0L. I later heard that the 1.4L GTi suffered a cracked water pump housing 3 months after I had traded it in. Stay away from this particular model. Timing chain replacement without dealer goodwill costs R17 500 and a new DSG is R90 000. That engine while technically is impressive is a total lemon. While some people are lucky and dont have issues, all the above are well documented issues and you can find references to them all over the internet. In some countries they actually did a recall on GTi and the Tiguan (cause used the same engine) due to the same issues. However they did not do a recall in SA and only repaired "if" the owner was prepared to kick up a big stink. I was lucky since mine was from new and had low km when the issues happened so i had a strong leg to stand on. Second hand buyers be very very careful of this car, it will make you cry tears of blood when something breaks. You have been warned by somebody with first hand experience with this car.
thank you for this detailed and honest feedback from someone with first hand experience in SA, this will help other potential new owners realise that these issues are real and not smoke and mirrors.
Mine still okay, what i changed was the faulty fans after 7years of usage, mine is VW Polo GTI 2013. As long as u did the routine maintenance as similar like all those japanese car then u gonna be OK.
That's not surprising, many owners have not experienced problems, but many of these listed problems have been sighted too often for it to be considered outliers. Glad to hear your Polo GTI is purring like a kitten!
I’ve found with all Volkswagen’s buying the car is only a down payment you spend almost the purchase price on repairs bought a VW for a quality car and reliable transportation however once you fix the issues they are quite reliable with regular maintenance I have a 6R GTI 1.4 GTI has excessive oil consumption like you say I’ve replaced the water pump at great expense at 70000kms blows smoke under acceleration but turbo seems fine also the radiator was replaced at 60000kms as the cooling fan shroud punctured a hole in it due to a failed rubber grommet so over time with the constant plastics banging together all coolant was lost, It’s is however a fun car to drive I’m thinking of getting rid of it when the lease is up the car doesn’t quite have 80000kms yet my caddy van also has had issues once fixed it is now reliable with regular maintenance and is now 15 years old still going strong I don’t think my Polo will last that long,
Get rid of it as soon as possible, i had mine serviced with the agents, 2nd day of owning it 3 piston ring landings came off. The last i've experienced is the ring landing came off the one VW didn't replace, VW now quoted me R17k to open it and to tell me that last piston is stuffed. I've seriously lost all faith in VW as a brand, prices are getting steeper and quality's just shit.
I've replaced my water pump 3 times already. I've spend so much money on this car its frightening, this is by far the worst car I've ever purchased . Its a total failure and a serious disappointment
I want to buy a 2010 6r polo gti from a local dealer and there is one for sale for very very cheap only 5000 pounds normally these cars are 8 or 9 grand this one has 100k miles I'm worried it's a lemon with issues?as its seems too cheap too good to be true?
I had the 2011 had a block replaced had megatronic done gearbox and coilpacks lucky all happened in warranty and it got sold before warranty expired but I still miss the car😢👎 just a sexy looking car
I have the 2011 polo GTI,it damaged the megatronic and I replaced it after some months,but when I got it running again,suddenly the turbo is not working,and it sounds louder,could it be a leakage in the turbo pipes,coz instead of boosting the engine just jerks,and you don’t really notice the problem until you drive at speeds that need turbo boost
Hi I just bought a second hand Polo gti 6 2011 and i replaced the magatronics and now just went in for a clutch repair. what else should i be on a look out for? it on 179000km now. i have just owned it for 3 months now. The warranty is paying for now.
Recently bought a 2015 POLO 1.8TSI GTI DSG, drove the car home from the dealership & the EPC light came on, took the car back to the dealership to be repaired & the dealership said they fixed the following - 4x Pencil Coils - Repaired the engine harness & ECU - 1x Cam Sensor So my question is, is the car worth keeping after these repairs have been done?
It's concerning that they sold you a car with so many existing mechanical issues, we also doubt that they were not aware of these at the time of sale. We suggest taking the car to a VW dealership and have them a run full diagnostic check on the car and provide you with the printed report. This report should indicate any issues that can be detected by the VW diagnostic equipment, you will need to pay for this report out of your pocket. If more issues are found on this report you can present this to the dealer who sold you the car and requests them to fix the car. Many used car dealers have their own mechanics who fix their sale cars and they likely do not have dealership level diagnostic equipment that pickup all issues stored on the ECU, best to get this done at VW. You can also have VW do a multipoint inspection on the car to identify any mechanical issues, you should also validate the service history. Lots of PT after buying a used car! If you want to cancel the deal --> www.wheelindex.co.za/blog/can-i-cancel-a-car-deal-after-signing-the-finance-and-other-paperwork?id=5s4efT6dzyqKMOkUoiQmoG
I took the car to VW to have a diagnostic test done as well as a 80 point check, I took the results to the dealership & they said they’d look into it. I took the car to the dealership about 8 times now to be repaired but to no avail, I laid a formal complaint with the dealership that after so many attempts I do not want the vehicle anymore & their response was that they have fixed the aforementioned problems & that the car is ready for collection. So I’m thinking of lodging a complaint with the MIOSA. I have yet to respond to the dealership’s email as well.
No run away from the deal, according to CPA you have every right to cancel the deal. Like i told someone earlier the dealer closes the sale and then you sit with a repetition of these issues, also they are costly issues.
2014 models don’t have much issues. But water pump issue is actually still a problem. I would say for it to not give you problems use supreme fuel instead of normal fuel. They say if you use supreme the less you visit the garage. I’m thinking to swap engine and put 1.8 instead. Or 2.0 rs3 engine as a project. 🇬🇧
In South Africa we have 95 and 93 RON at the gas/petrol station, thus "premium" fuel is non-existent. Unless of course you make your own mixture and run a custom ECU file, but this is not sustainable on a daily driven car. The easiest way to up the octane in SA is to add a water-methanol injection kit, this will require a software tune though and the pros are that the engine temps will run cooler and there will be a slight increase in fuel octane. Do you own a VW Polo 6R gti? Tell us more.
Wheel Index yes I do own a 6R version and it hasn’t been a problem. Stage 2 1.4 litre engine runs well with 97 octane and above fuel. I noticed when I used normal fuel I would visit the garage quiet often. Now she’s been running for smooth no oil loss and all. This fuel cleans up your engine and your oil will get dirty slowly like really slow. & If there’s possible garages that offer this fuel in SA I highly recommend octane 97.
@@muzyy8978 We agree that the fuel quality used in a car has a big impact on the longevity of the engine. The poor quality fuel in SA is also one of the reasons why get de-tuned engines for certain models.
Polo GTI 6r 1.4 tsi, maybe have heat issues I believe... blown my turbo shaft within a year after bought it as brand new but have changed to hybrid turbo... water pump and MU breakdown when the car is 6 years old... Other than that, the car has been running fine for 8yrs now.
@@catalinrosoi586 upgrade turbo and intercooler... and gfb diverter valve... solve the issue... the rest will be wear and tear replacement. spark plug range do play parts too.
Yes, they do. This same engine is used in may VAG (VW & Audi) vehicles. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_Group_petrol_engines#1.4_R4_16v_TSI/TFSI
don't do it via VW if you're paying cash. find a reputable VW specialist workshop. That price is too high, you can buy a used engine and transmission for that cost.
No, not at all! I'm currently pouring in 0,5L oil every 2000-3000km.. I don't mind this as premium oil costs around R70 per 0.5L, the trick is to let your car warm-up to acceptable driving temp before driving as per the user manual, it's really not rocket science. Also, don't hard drive your GTI when the Oil temp is below 90^. Some of these guys are either unaware of or just don't want to follow these simple car care/routine steps and that's why they experience issues like these. Lastly, once your GTI reaches 160 000KM mileage, reduce service interval to 10 000KM and it must be a major service every time! You'll have a good running and long lasting car.
@@Sly_212 500ml of oil every 2-3k kilometers is still a lot. I have an 2.0 Corolla with 120,000km and it doesnt use a grain of oil. Yet again, I dont think you can compare the reliability. I really would like an MK6 gti, but apparently they also have issues with timing chains, carbon build up etc. Looking at ford focus st atm
@@ewanduplessis9682 Yes they (MK6 GTi) do have issues with timing chains and carbon build ups.. but the build only occurs when you use the manufacturer's recommended oil (confusing I know) which is Castrol Edge, terrible oil. I use Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 fully synthetic on my GTi and never had issues. I changed the timing chain at 120000KM and I'm gonna change it now again at 240000KM, I'm currently on 235000KM. I'm gonna sell the car soon so I wanna leave it in tip-top shape for the next-owner. The rising cost of fuel and food prices make it a nightmare to own a GTI, or any performance car for that matter.
Wondeful engine, but VERY FUCKING FRAGILE!!! It is a very lovely engine, but many faults such as timing chain and pistons. Har enough cash to keep it running. Forget all about avoiding servicing. Fun fact it that the 160hp version had the same issues, but with the GTI the power was upped to 180, so of course it has issues
You forgot problem #10 the radiator just starts leaking. I replaced mine at 100000km a friend had a similar issue. Most most of these problems have been rectified on the CTH engine.
Brilliant question. I’d also like to know the answer as im also looking at buying one. A few people I know have these cars and with proper maintenance they’ve been reliable. This video is making me think twice lol.
yes, it will still fail. I had full service history, only filled with 98 petrol, i don't drive aggressive or in any way which would damage engine. Pistons and DSG gearbox have gone at same time, 120,000kms, cost of repair is currently higher than the worth of the car. Horrid car, don't buy a 1.4L twin charge engine.
Owner of a 2013 Polo GTI in Zimbabwe, I wish I had seen this when I bought the car in 2016. I have had to replace the water pump at around 92 000km and I am now on problem no5 with the chain tensioner being replaced as i write this. The car is now around 120 000km. I am now contemplating selling it due to the high cost repairs which is unfortunate as I loved the car. Heartbroken
I suggest selling your car and get out while you can. If you're a big fan of the 1.4tfsi engine in your current car and want to stick to the same size car and platform, I suggest you take the Polo GTI 6R 1.8t for a test drive. It offers the same package with more power on a better engine platform.
@@wheelindex8983 Sadly there's not many of those 1.8 GTi's left around, seems all the owners are holding on to them. I was looking for exactly that before I settled for a 1.4 GTi. Its on 235000KM so far with issues having been 1) Mechatronic replacement at 87000KM, 2) Timing Chain Replacement at 120000KM (routine maintanance) and 3) Water Pump failure/replacement at 228000KM which was reasonable after so long. Never had any other issues besides those above, I consider myself lucky and will be holding on to this babe.
Im realy getting lost and confused now i have done an online research about these 1.4 gti's polo because i love them and im looking to buy one for myself the reason why im in between is its gonna be my first car but with these issues that im hearing and on the hand some people say they are not bad im lost on whether to go for it or not 😐😐😐
Keep in mind that there are some people who have experienced zero issues, some of them even commented on this video, but the odds of engine failure is high and that why we create these videos to educate people of the realities, not scare them away. If you have R25k saved up for possible repairs and a good extended warranty that covers the engine you should be good to proceed! After this video was posted one of our staff members experienced engine failure on he's 2009 VW Tiguan that's fitted with the exact same engine as the 6R Polo Gti. This engine failure occurred at 235 000km and was the first-ever big mechanical issues experienced on this car since new, I just want to highlight that the point at which the engine might fail is not a hard fact and low mileage cars have also been affected by engine failure.
Mzwandile Thandanani if you have deep pockets then this is the perfect car for you. (being extremely sarcastic) The 6R which is the twin charged 1.4tsi motor, if you can and have the money to open the motor? Stick a set of Wossener forged pistons and conrods. WIth this setup you'll have a very good car for years, up until such a time please know that that the fitted pistons ring landings break causing engine failure, a costly at that too.
Thanks Clint my man much appreciated but now that you've opened my eyes like this i think R line 2016 or 17 will do i know it also have its own problems but I'll take it
i have one, i regret it always give me shit, now i am adviced to change the engen, called vw they want 200k for an angen phela thats a new car, this shit piss me off
yeah, sadly this does happen. Next do more homework on car forums before pulling the trigger on a car you want. This is especially relevant if you're buying a performance model.
Hi guys. Hope everyone is well. I'm having an issue with my Polo gti Cav 2014 cthe. It has a low idle. Start up 1000rpm then after 30 seconds or soo 700rpm. Slight engine vibration due to lack of rpm. Also a stutter when giving it gas. Any ideas? I changed the battery and sparl plugs. Thanks in advance.
Ive heard 6c gti is a Great car, I wanna get one myself but Im concerned about the Dq200 gearbox because ive heard about the gearbox failure, could it pose potential problem in the long run ? Should i be worried or just buy it?
Dude, you are aware, that on the later ZEY engines, the piston and oil usage issues was fixed. Mine is on 200000KM, never ever had to top up oil between services yet. Radiator did fail, it is common in these Polo GTI's, and a failed mechatronix, luckily, still under warranty
Hello dude :-) All 1.4tsi are affected, old, new, all of them. We've even seen customers who experienced engine failure and had the entire engine replaced by VWSA only to visit the dealer again after 10,000km with another broken piston. The best way to fix this issue, is to install better aftermarket pistons or forged pistons. No 1.4tsi engines are immune to engine failure. There are many lucky owners who have no issues, but these cases are less than the ones who have issues.
@@wheelindex8983 I also drive a 1.4TSI ZEY 2014 model, currently on 130 000KM, only had 2 issues, my mechatronics gave in @110 000KM, and I had my water pump replaced otherwise I never had any issues
I have a polo gti and since November 2020 everything went faulty, firstly the engine and pistons cracked cost me 95k then 2 weeks after boost pipes on turbo and supercharger and vost me another 3k, 1 week after that my turbo gave problems and replaced it and coat me 25k and 3 weeks later now, my gearbox is giving problems and gonna cost me about 70k at the moment 🙈🙈
I have had similar problems with mine . First my piston burnt so i replaced the engine with a complete import engine(R45k). They my clutch gave in i bought a clutch at vw and this cost me R14k. Labour for replacement of the clutch worked out R10k. Immediately I was told that my mechatronic needed to be replaced which cost me R27k without labour. This all happened with in a space of two years . Currently I'm sitting with the same issue again so its seems that the cycle of spending money on this car is starting all over again. Do you perhaps have any advice for me with regards to this issue I'm having please ?
Was a fun car while it ran but mine just blew up, cost of repair is higher than the value of the vehicle, 120,000kms. Got the MY2014 model, after hearing that VW had fixed many of the issues by then. Check engine light came on, one piston not firing, whole piston apparatus needs replacing, ~6kAUD minimum to replace all pistons. haven't had the mechanic pull it apart to see if whole engine needs replacing, if it does, 10-12k AUD to fix. Mechanic tells me that my DSG is showing early signs of failure would cost 1k to diagnose, He's 80% confident my DSG has a hairline crack, about 5k AUD to fix, minimum. Car value is about 15k, cost of repairs is around ~15k. At this point I'm probably scrapping the car, might get $500Aud for it. Totally regret buying this car, wont buy VW again, horrid company, horrid car.
You have literally described the situation I’m in verbatim, the only difference is I have only 36,000 km on the clock, I’m sickened by the horrendous build quality of the VWs I’ve already replaced the water pump at a cost of 1200 AUD and now I need to replace two pistons, average car value is roughly 14,000 AUD looking online and it’s going to cost a minimum of 7g AUD replace them probably more by the time the mechanics pull it apart. VW will not get a single extra penny from me.
Aone Setimela if you can stretch your budget go for the Polo 6 R 1.8T gti manual. This model is not a good choice. Too many issues with a high probability of something failing. Alternatively if you get a 1.4tsi gti check the service & especially the dsg service history. On this model the dsg mechatronics & clutch is problematic. Also look at the mk7 fiesta st.
Ive got a polo 6r gti, and Im on 100000km and havent had much problems with mine at all. The only issue I had was one of my cooling fans motor that was burnt out. Otherwise I had no other issues. As for the oil usage, I cant say I’ve had that problem. I’ve got a stage 2 setup on the car and it seems to be running fine. I even put it in drag strip a few times and had no issues. I would say mines held up pretty well overs the years. I love it.
That's great news, sounds like you have a "Friday car", she's a keeper! Our findings were that these are the most common issues that have been experienced by many owners. It's quite possible to own any car and not experience any of the common faults, our aim is always to educate so that if you do buy one these Polo's that you are aware of the possible issues that you could experience.
Hi Miguel, do you think it's because of the stage 2 setup?
@@bayandamokoena4882 Hey man, like @Wheel Index said it could just be that my car is a Friday car. Its a 2014 model so it does come with the revised CTHE motor, rather than the CAV. And it feels special.. runs stronger than the others. Think its the larger turbo(K03S) that came on the revised 6R GTI, Plus the car always had dsg software, which 100% has saved my gearbox. I would say that my stage 2 setup has outlasted stock mapped cars. How has your experience been?
I actually don't own one😅 I'm a big fan I love the sound of the exhaust but so many people have complained about the gearbox, I was thinking of a 6c gti instead
@@bayandamokoena4882 The 6c has the exact same gearbox and therefore also have problems with the gearbox, unless you go for a manual one. But if these cars are looked after, they dont give much problems.
As simple as allowing the engine/oil to get up to temperature before driving it hard, can go a long way. And gearbox software is a must, standard is no good.
I had one from new. (2014 model) Timing chain went at 32 000 km (the timing chain does not break but the fail point is the hydraulic chain tensioner), fortunately no major engine damage & dealership replaced the timing chain under "goodwill clause". DSG clutch shudder started at 43000 km and DSG failed at 46000 km (metatronics failure and a worn dual mass flywheel) Car was out of warranty (time wise) but I fought VW SA, eventually VW Germany replaced the entire DSG at no cost to me, but all this took 4 months. Had it back one month and traded it back to VW and got the new POLO GTI 2.0L. I later heard that the 1.4L GTi suffered a cracked water pump housing 3 months after I had traded it in. Stay away from this particular model. Timing chain replacement without dealer goodwill costs R17 500 and a new DSG is R90 000. That engine while technically is impressive is a total lemon.
While some people are lucky and dont have issues, all the above are well documented issues and you can find references to them all over the internet. In some countries they actually did a recall on GTi and the Tiguan (cause used the same engine) due to the same issues. However they did not do a recall in SA and only repaired "if" the owner was prepared to kick up a big stink. I was lucky since mine was from new and had low km when the issues happened so i had a strong leg to stand on. Second hand buyers be very very careful of this car, it will make you cry tears of blood when something breaks.
You have been warned by somebody with first hand experience with this car.
thank you for this detailed and honest feedback from someone with first hand experience in SA, this will help other potential new owners realise that these issues are real and not smoke and mirrors.
I had the same problems, the 1.4 is an absolute shitbox
@@idiotsandwich6727 1.8tsi is better
@@ShottaIbby 1.8 and 2.0 are decend engines, 1.8 20v is the best engine in my opinion so buy it in the audi r seat
@@idiotsandwich6727 1.8 20v was a good engine, sad how we've lost that quality in modern builds.
Mine still okay, what i changed was the faulty fans after 7years of usage, mine is VW Polo GTI 2013. As long as u did the routine maintenance as similar like all those japanese car then u gonna be OK.
That 1.4 VW twin charger engine was a disaster in terms of reliability / problems. Tons of owner problems from a simple Google search.
Reason #1 was more than enough to make me not want to buy one.
Many owners have suffered broken pistons. Some have had the repair done by VW while under the new car warranty and others out of pocket.
I own it never had a problem ... Keep oil topped up and service intervals
That's not surprising, many owners have not experienced problems, but many of these listed problems have been sighted too often for it to be considered outliers. Glad to hear your Polo GTI is purring like a kitten!
McFly Boy so did i, preventive maintenance & corrective maintenance on time, till now 2013-2020 my Polo GTI still going strong😎👍🏻
I always keep with the services interval at 10k every 6 months but my mechatronic failed and now i got a sign that it will broke at any moment😵
Iqmal Miz i did changed my Mecha oil (1ltrs) & DSG Oil (2ltrs) at every 12months interval, weather / climates conditions affected so much.
Probably some of you drive like animals to have problems with the machine
Bro. Thanks for taking the time to make this vid.
Very informative and thanks for also giving a pricing estimates.
Any time!
I’ve found with all Volkswagen’s buying the car is only a down payment you spend almost the purchase price on repairs bought a VW for a quality car and reliable transportation however once you fix the issues they are quite reliable with regular maintenance I have a 6R GTI 1.4 GTI has excessive oil consumption like you say I’ve replaced the water pump at great expense at 70000kms blows smoke under acceleration but turbo seems fine also the radiator was replaced at 60000kms as the cooling fan shroud punctured a hole in it due to a failed rubber grommet so over time with the constant plastics banging together all coolant was lost,
It’s is however a fun car to drive I’m thinking of getting rid of it when the lease is up the car doesn’t quite have 80000kms yet my caddy van also has had issues once fixed it is now reliable with regular maintenance and is now 15 years old still going strong I don’t think my Polo will last that long,
Get rid of it as soon as possible, i had mine serviced with the agents, 2nd day of owning it 3 piston ring landings came off. The last i've experienced is the ring landing came off the one VW didn't replace, VW now quoted me R17k to open it and to tell me that last piston is stuffed. I've seriously lost all faith in VW as a brand, prices are getting steeper and quality's just shit.
@@clintchrystie6727 yours is also Polo gti?
I've replaced my water pump 3 times already. I've spend so much money on this car its frightening, this is by far the worst car I've ever purchased . Its a total failure and a serious disappointment
Maybe buy one to build it better if you love it. Open the engine and do the pistons go forged, refurbish turbo and get new DSG clutches.
Or just buy an other car that is much more reliable, if you put al that money in a 1.4 you better can buy a reliable engine
I always suggest getting the Polo 6C GTI is you like this shape, much less hassles.
The reason why this polo works so well is the practicality as well. But the fiesta st drives way better
agreed, 2-doors on the Fiesta ST makes it less appealing as a practical car, but it's a more focussed drivers car and comes in manual!
I want to buy a 2010 6r polo gti from a local dealer and there is one for sale for very very cheap only 5000 pounds normally these cars are 8 or 9 grand this one has 100k miles I'm worried it's a lemon with issues?as its seems too cheap too good to be true?
The excitement i got when i got the notification for a new upload.
Oh yeahhh
I had the 2011 had a block replaced had megatronic done gearbox and coilpacks lucky all happened in warranty and it got sold before warranty expired but I still miss the car😢👎 just a sexy looking car
I have the 2011 polo GTI,it damaged the megatronic and I replaced it after some months,but when I got it running again,suddenly the turbo is not working,and it sounds louder,could it be a leakage in the turbo pipes,coz instead of boosting the engine just jerks,and you don’t really notice the problem until you drive at speeds that need turbo boost
Piston failure is common if your not using premium 98 fuel
Hi I just bought a second hand Polo gti 6 2011 and i replaced the magatronics and now just went in for a clutch repair. what else should i be on a look out for? it on 179000km now. i have just owned it for 3 months now. The warranty is paying for now.
What exactly is the mechatronic unit ??
Recently bought a 2015 POLO 1.8TSI GTI DSG, drove the car home from the dealership & the EPC light came on, took the car back to the dealership to be repaired & the dealership said they fixed the following
- 4x Pencil Coils
- Repaired the engine harness & ECU
- 1x Cam Sensor
So my question is, is the car worth keeping after these repairs have been done?
It's concerning that they sold you a car with so many existing mechanical issues, we also doubt that they were not aware of these at the time of sale. We suggest taking the car to a VW dealership and have them a run full diagnostic check on the car and provide you with the printed report. This report should indicate any issues that can be detected by the VW diagnostic equipment, you will need to pay for this report out of your pocket. If more issues are found on this report you can present this to the dealer who sold you the car and requests them to fix the car. Many used car dealers have their own mechanics who fix their sale cars and they likely do not have dealership level diagnostic equipment that pickup all issues stored on the ECU, best to get this done at VW. You can also have VW do a multipoint inspection on the car to identify any mechanical issues, you should also validate the service history. Lots of PT after buying a used car! If you want to cancel the deal --> www.wheelindex.co.za/blog/can-i-cancel-a-car-deal-after-signing-the-finance-and-other-paperwork?id=5s4efT6dzyqKMOkUoiQmoG
I took the car to VW to have a diagnostic test done as well as a 80 point check, I took the results to the dealership & they said they’d look into it.
I took the car to the dealership about 8 times now to be repaired but to no avail, I laid a formal complaint with the dealership that after so many attempts I do not want the vehicle anymore & their response was that they have fixed the aforementioned problems & that the car is ready for collection.
So I’m thinking of lodging a complaint with the MIOSA.
I have yet to respond to the dealership’s email as well.
They also never mentioned that the car was in an accident, which VW told me after checking the car
No run away from the deal, according to CPA you have every right to cancel the deal. Like i told someone earlier the dealer closes the sale and then you sit with a repetition of these issues, also they are costly issues.
Never a good idea to buy used performance cars because they all been raced and abused
2014 models don’t have much issues. But water pump issue is actually still a problem. I would say for it to not give you problems use supreme fuel instead of normal fuel. They say if you use supreme the less you visit the garage. I’m thinking to swap engine and put 1.8 instead. Or 2.0 rs3 engine as a project. 🇬🇧
In South Africa we have 95 and 93 RON at the gas/petrol station, thus "premium" fuel is non-existent. Unless of course you make your own mixture and run a custom ECU file, but this is not sustainable on a daily driven car. The easiest way to up the octane in SA is to add a water-methanol injection kit, this will require a software tune though and the pros are that the engine temps will run cooler and there will be a slight increase in fuel octane. Do you own a VW Polo 6R gti? Tell us more.
Wheel Index yes I do own a 6R version and it hasn’t been a problem. Stage 2 1.4 litre engine runs well with 97 octane and above fuel. I noticed when I used normal fuel I would visit the garage quiet often. Now she’s been running for smooth no oil loss and all. This fuel cleans up your engine and your oil will get dirty slowly like really slow. & If there’s possible garages that offer this fuel in SA I highly recommend octane 97.
@@muzyy8978 We agree that the fuel quality used in a car has a big impact on the longevity of the engine. The poor quality fuel in SA is also one of the reasons why get de-tuned engines for certain models.
my 2014 model has blown up, only used 98RON fuel, full service history, never driven aggressively.
This 1.4 twin charge engine is just built to fail.
White smoke on start up, then it disappeared when the car is Hot?
It’s fucked bud 😓
Polo GTI 6r 1.4 tsi, maybe have heat issues I believe... blown my turbo shaft within a year after bought it as brand new but have changed to hybrid turbo...
water pump and MU breakdown when the car is 6 years old...
Other than that, the car has been running fine for 8yrs now.
Hey Muhammad Sufiyan I got a problem with mine I got a 1.4 gti as well 2011 would you help me out ??
@@catalinrosoi586 upgrade turbo and intercooler... and gfb diverter valve... solve the issue... the rest will be wear and tear replacement. spark plug range do play parts too.
@@muhammadsufian426 if you got Instagram or something I want to show you what error codes I’m getting ?
Juet get 6r 1.6 tdi manual with GTC1549VZ, dp and big FMIC. You will have more power (200+ Hp 350-400nm), reliability and fuel economy.
my brother has a 6R TDI with 250 000km on the original engine, definitely a more reliable engine.
Please do a 6c problem
Hi there I am driving Polo 6 Tsi 1.2 DSG 2014 model does not want to take gears. it has some sound from gearbox. what might be the issue
Solenoid valves on the mechatronics unit in the DSG gearbox have failed meaning you can’t engage any gears as the solenoid valves won’t allow you to.
Does these problems with the polo also apply to the 1.4 tsi 160 horsepower golf mk6?
Yes, they do. This same engine is used in may VAG (VW & Audi) vehicles. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Volkswagen_Group_petrol_engines#1.4_R4_16v_TSI/TFSI
#1 3 of my pistons cracked and busy replacing the whole block and Quoted me R95000
don't do it via VW if you're paying cash. find a reputable VW specialist workshop. That price is too high, you can buy a used engine and transmission for that cost.
I was too late but they did everything now, this car is just giving problems one after the other
My 2011 polo gti is giving me endless problems. What a headache of a car
So basically to avoid all this all I’m hearing is just build a 1.8t from the 6c and build that😅
1 Litre of oil per 1,000km normal? Holy shit!
No, not at all! I'm currently pouring in 0,5L oil every 2000-3000km.. I don't mind this as premium oil costs around R70 per 0.5L, the trick is to let your car warm-up to acceptable driving temp before driving as per the user manual, it's really not rocket science. Also, don't hard drive your GTI when the Oil temp is below 90^. Some of these guys are either unaware of or just don't want to follow these simple car care/routine steps and that's why they experience issues like these. Lastly, once your GTI reaches 160 000KM mileage, reduce service interval to 10 000KM and it must be a major service every time! You'll have a good running and long lasting car.
@@Sly_212 500ml of oil every 2-3k kilometers is still a lot. I have an 2.0 Corolla with 120,000km and it doesnt use a grain of oil. Yet again, I dont think you can compare the reliability. I really would like an MK6 gti, but apparently they also have issues with timing chains, carbon build up etc. Looking at ford focus st atm
@@ewanduplessis9682 Yes they (MK6 GTi) do have issues with timing chains and carbon build ups.. but the build only occurs when you use the manufacturer's recommended oil (confusing I know) which is Castrol Edge, terrible oil. I use Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 fully synthetic on my GTi and never had issues. I changed the timing chain at 120000KM and I'm gonna change it now again at 240000KM, I'm currently on 235000KM. I'm gonna sell the car soon so I wanna leave it in tip-top shape for the next-owner. The rising cost of fuel and food prices make it a nightmare to own a GTI, or any performance car for that matter.
Polo gti is a disappointment think twice before purchase
Hemde nasil
Why are you saying that. Are you owning one or had one before. Please explain
Aone Setimela buy one 2014 onwards, 2010 - 2013 have problems with pistons and fuel injection
Aone Setimela yes i did own one, complete nightmare. And know other stories from gti cave drivers
The one Man the best option is 6c facelift with 1.8 tsi
Awesome car but super sensitive.
Just dont buy DSG car....damn
Polo 5
a video just you talking? at least get the car to show it... pretty bad video!
Ive had one for 6 years now and never had an issue, ive always waited until its heated up before pushing it and it runs sweet!
Thank you for all you guys Im considering buying one and he doesn’t know what he’s on about by all the comments lol 😂
@@mattknight2506 and did you bought it?
@@footballmaster7115 nah
@@mattknight2506 aaah, I wanna buy this week and I am still confuced hahah
@@footballmaster7115 I wouldn’t get one now tbh what’s your budget??
Volkswagen..........Turning owners into mechanics since 1959
This is very funny 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂 I'm of them. Brand loyalty is a problem for me!
Wondeful engine, but VERY FUCKING FRAGILE!!! It is a very lovely engine, but many faults such as timing chain and pistons. Har enough cash to keep it running. Forget all about avoiding servicing.
Fun fact it that the 160hp version had the same issues, but with the GTI the power was upped to 180, so of course it has issues
I would say 2010-2012 models did have a fragility with the engine, I had a replacement under warranty, but 2012 onwards fine.
Yes, from CAVE to CTHE but even cthe can still get big issues
totally untrue, i know from personal experience (MY2014 engine and gearbox have totally failed).
You forgot problem #10 the radiator just starts leaking. I replaced mine at 100000km a friend had a similar issue.
Most most of these problems have been rectified on the CTH engine.
When was the CTH rolled out?
I had the same problem and the water pump got damaged at 70k kms
Got engine changed 7 years ago under warranty, since then 0 problems
Hi there..i really wanna buy this car, but tell me if I leave it stock, no mods and always service on time, will all these issues still come ?
Brilliant question. I’d also like to know the answer as im also looking at buying one. A few people I know have these cars and with proper maintenance they’ve been reliable.
This video is making me think twice lol.
I've changed my mind, I'm chasing the Fiesta ST now
yes, it will still fail.
I had full service history, only filled with 98 petrol, i don't drive aggressive or in any way which would damage engine.
Pistons and DSG gearbox have gone at same time, 120,000kms, cost of repair is currently higher than the worth of the car.
Horrid car, don't buy a 1.4L twin charge engine.
@@peacan696969 VW absolutely failed at producing the engine of this car
Owner of a 2013 Polo GTI in Zimbabwe, I wish I had seen this when I bought the car in 2016. I have had to replace the water pump at around 92 000km and I am now on problem no5 with the chain tensioner being replaced as i write this. The car is now around 120 000km. I am now contemplating selling it due to the high cost repairs which is unfortunate as I loved the car. Heartbroken
I suggest selling your car and get out while you can. If you're a big fan of the 1.4tfsi engine in your current car and want to stick to the same size car and platform, I suggest you take the Polo GTI 6R 1.8t for a test drive. It offers the same package with more power on a better engine platform.
@@wheelindex8983 Sadly there's not many of those 1.8 GTi's left around, seems all the owners are holding on to them. I was looking for exactly that before I settled for a 1.4 GTi. Its on 235000KM so far with issues having been 1) Mechatronic replacement at 87000KM, 2) Timing Chain Replacement at 120000KM (routine maintanance) and 3) Water Pump failure/replacement at 228000KM which was reasonable after so long. Never had any other issues besides those above, I consider myself lucky and will be holding on to this babe.
Need to buy a mechatronic for my polo grill can you help me
Im realy getting lost and confused now i have done an online research about these 1.4 gti's polo because i love them and im looking to buy one for myself the reason why im in between is its gonna be my first car but with these issues that im hearing and on the hand some people say they are not bad im lost on whether to go for it or not 😐😐😐
Keep in mind that there are some people who have experienced zero issues, some of them even commented on this video, but the odds of engine failure is high and that why we create these videos to educate people of the realities, not scare them away. If you have R25k saved up for possible repairs and a good extended warranty that covers the engine you should be good to proceed! After this video was posted one of our staff members experienced engine failure on he's 2009 VW Tiguan that's fitted with the exact same engine as the 6R Polo Gti. This engine failure occurred at 235 000km and was the first-ever big mechanical issues experienced on this car since new, I just want to highlight that the point at which the engine might fail is not a hard fact and low mileage cars have also been affected by engine failure.
@@wheelindex8983 thanks man much appreciated
Mzwandile Thandanani if you have deep pockets then this is the perfect car for you. (being extremely sarcastic) The 6R which is the twin charged 1.4tsi motor, if you can and have the money to open the motor? Stick a set of Wossener forged pistons and conrods. WIth this setup you'll have a very good car for years, up until such a time please know that that the fitted pistons ring landings break causing engine failure, a costly at that too.
Thanks Clint my man much appreciated but now that you've opened my eyes like this i think R line 2016 or 17 will do i know it also have its own problems but I'll take it
That’s why I sold mine before the warranty expired but I still miss it 😢👎
i have one, i regret it always give me shit, now i am adviced to change the engen, called vw they want 200k for an angen phela thats a new car, this shit piss me off
yeah, sadly this does happen. Next do more homework on car forums before pulling the trigger on a car you want. This is especially relevant if you're buying a performance model.
Is the Polo 1.8 Facelift a lot better or does it still have most problem points?
It has the ea888 gen 3 (same as mk7 gti/R/s1/s3) completely different engine to the 1.4 so none of these issues
Hi guys. Hope everyone is well. I'm having an issue with my Polo gti Cav 2014 cthe. It has a low idle. Start up 1000rpm then after 30 seconds or soo 700rpm. Slight engine vibration due to lack of rpm. Also a stutter when giving it gas. Any ideas? I changed the battery and sparl plugs. Thanks in advance.
Ive bought three engines for this car already
ah that's terrible! hope the car car is running ok now.
Did you go for a bigger engine or the same size and if you changed to a bigger engine did you swap the ECU
Ive heard 6c gti is a Great car, I wanna get one myself but
Im concerned about the Dq200 gearbox because ive heard about the gearbox failure, could it pose potential problem in the long run ?
Should i be worried or just buy it?
Any DSG could potentially have big repair costs and keep in mind dsg services every 2 years will cost around R4k.
Seems my 745i isn't so unreliable then ...lol !
What year is the Polo 6, im looking at the 2015 model, is this also 6R?
The 2015 Polo GTI uses the newer 1.8t engine, rather go with this.
Are you available for a chat
sure > kefarao@gmail.com
Dude, you are aware, that on the later ZEY engines, the piston and oil usage issues was fixed. Mine is on 200000KM, never ever had to top up oil between services yet. Radiator did fail, it is common in these Polo GTI's, and a failed mechatronix, luckily, still under warranty
Hello dude :-) All 1.4tsi are affected, old, new, all of them. We've even seen customers who experienced engine failure and had the entire engine replaced by VWSA only to visit the dealer again after 10,000km with another broken piston. The best way to fix this issue, is to install better aftermarket pistons or forged pistons. No 1.4tsi engines are immune to engine failure. There are many lucky owners who have no issues, but these cases are less than the ones who have issues.
@@wheelindex8983 I also drive a 1.4TSI ZEY 2014 model, currently on 130 000KM, only had 2 issues, my mechatronics gave in @110 000KM, and I had my water pump replaced otherwise I never had any issues
I have a polo gti and since November 2020 everything went faulty, firstly the engine and pistons cracked cost me 95k then 2 weeks after boost pipes on turbo and supercharger and vost me another 3k, 1 week after that my turbo gave problems and replaced it and coat me 25k and 3 weeks later now, my gearbox is giving problems and gonna cost me about 70k at the moment 🙈🙈
I have had similar problems with mine . First my piston burnt so i replaced the engine with a complete import engine(R45k). They my clutch gave in i bought a clutch at vw and this cost me R14k. Labour for replacement of the clutch worked out R10k. Immediately I was told that my mechatronic needed to be replaced which cost me R27k without labour. This all happened with in a space of two years . Currently I'm sitting with the same issue again so its seems that the cycle of spending money on this car is starting all over again. Do you perhaps have any advice for me with regards to this issue I'm having please ?
Was a fun car while it ran but mine just blew up, cost of repair is higher than the value of the vehicle, 120,000kms.
Got the MY2014 model, after hearing that VW had fixed many of the issues by then.
Check engine light came on, one piston not firing, whole piston apparatus needs replacing, ~6kAUD minimum to replace all pistons. haven't had the mechanic pull it apart to see if whole engine needs replacing, if it does, 10-12k AUD to fix.
Mechanic tells me that my DSG is showing early signs of failure would cost 1k to diagnose, He's 80% confident my DSG has a hairline crack, about 5k AUD to fix, minimum.
Car value is about 15k, cost of repairs is around ~15k.
At this point I'm probably scrapping the car, might get $500Aud for it.
Totally regret buying this car, wont buy VW again, horrid company, horrid car.
You have literally described the situation I’m in verbatim, the only difference is I have only 36,000 km on the clock, I’m sickened by the horrendous build quality of the VWs I’ve already replaced the water pump at a cost of 1200 AUD and now I need to replace two pistons, average car value is roughly 14,000 AUD looking online and it’s going to cost a minimum of 7g AUD replace them probably more by the time the mechanics pull it apart. VW will not get a single extra penny from me.
i am planning on buying one and how is the gearbox. Any problems related to the gearbox
Aone Setimela if you can stretch your budget go for the Polo 6 R 1.8T gti manual. This model is not a good choice. Too many issues with a high probability of something failing. Alternatively if you get a 1.4tsi gti check the service & especially the dsg service history. On this model the dsg mechatronics & clutch is problematic. Also look at the mk7 fiesta st.
Best gearbox ever!
Can I swap the engine for a 2l without changing the ECU and just do a software swap
I have angine problems with my gti big disappointment
Whats the problem with yours and hw long have you owned it. Please share your experience with it
If your angine is the problem you maybe should get help of a doctor. Engine is car specialist