@mrbrockpeters Art by definition is not a paying endeavor. The phrase "selling out" was coined to differentiate art in its purest form from its commercial derivatives. Today many words are used outside of their definitions. "Art" is an emotional expression put into a physical media or performance. Training can in some cases help an artist more accurately render their expressions. But to be paid, unless incidental to the arts creation, is to make goods or services. Not "art". To sell out is only to be looked down upon by some, but walk away both paid and recognized. For it is the strict adherence to art as a pure expression that leaves most great artists forgotten. As a whole i agree art can be found among the waves of commercial fads and forms. But we must always remember why most of what we love was created. For our money. No one can pay rent with a song. But when someone puts a lifetime of an average persons wages up their nose or in their veins and then is given this genius halo no one can touch that turns the commercial dreck they produced into gold standard classics. Every generation is obsessed with what they were told was cool. Then when they get older it becomes the only thing that's cool. Then when they are very old the beat younger generations with it like a stick yelling, in my day..... this isn't music, no no thiiiiiissss is music. Our precious human egos.
So much of his instrumental music is so open to individual interpretation that it tells stories. The stories are different for each person and I find the ones they tell me, to be extremely important.
I really admire how Trent can create absolute chaos in a song and also find beauty and calm within it. I've always said he is amazing at taming sound and what he creates is limitless. Truly an inspirational and pure artist to his craft. Massive respect.
12:24 - This brings me to tears. I persuaded my mother to buy a second hand MS20 at a local music store for 50 euros when I was 11, in 1987. I remember this day clearly. After I went to bed I stayed up. And when I heard my parents went to bed, I waited for a while. Powered on my new synth and started turning the knobs. After a while I put my headphone cable between the keys... what a world of souds I could produce. I just hope kids these days get an experience like that.
@@Malvis4 it's an easy way to hold down a key so that you get a sustained note. It allows you to twiddle knobs with both hands to hear what is changing over time, while not losing a hand to just holding down a key
I also agree with Trent. Alessandro and his synth on the snare is just him! Another reason why I fell in love with Modwheelmood in the first place and have followed Alessandro's music since.
I find myself smiling and inspired and stimulated. Half the issue with a lot of music nowadays is its all sampled etc. Getting there by your own means having a journey actually creating and the mistakes along the way make for a very satisfying experience. It is always amazing to find encouragement where there is mistakes.
Aalto and Kaivo from Madrona labs are great VST's for those who can't afford modulars.. They don't seem to try and be emulators of any particular system and do things that analogue cannot. A good intro for people looking to get into modular too.
Analog synths sound better than sampling but it comes down to price and user experience. In todays day and age, people want simplicity, user friendly, and affordable. It's also hard to find someone who gives analog synth "lessons" so there's a big learning curve. Software can be easier to understand and manipulate. Great interview from two people I have the utmost respect for!
I disagree on the learning curve end. I learned 100x more about synthesis in the almost 4 years I've had a modular, than 10+ years with software and hardwired synths. Physically connecting a patch and following the signal flow is the perfect way to learn, imo.
Watching Trent and Alessandro talk about what they do and their experiences....makes me realize how little direction i have in my own life. I've pretty much become a slave to convenience and "shit casio solution" way of life. I really need to reevaluate my place in the machine...
Awesome interview! Yeah I can liken what they're saying to downhill mountain biking! Pedalling up the hill makes the down way more rewarding, instead of simply using the chair lift! Plus you get fitter (so in other words, a better musician)
Thanks for uploading this, was really hoping there would have been more on the IDOW bluray of Trent. Very much enjoyed watching this extended interview. :))
I could listen to these guys talk about music all day. I wish Trent would do a master class. It wouldn't make me a better musician because I suck but I would be so entertaining.
I watched this interview about 2 years ago and after that i checked out alessandro's music. HOLY SHIT! Its good! I decided to re watched this interview since its where i first found out about him and leave this comment. Seriously if you love synth music and haven't heard his stuff check it out NOW!
IMO, I like the idea of modular synths and using separate effect pedals and mixing things up that way, mainly because I really hate the idea of getting some multi-effect processor that feels like it's been "approved" by some company. Like someone created a specific signal path, and it was then approved for commercial production.
Because four hours (Hardcore Edition running time) is the maximum that would fit onto a single dual-layer DVD. We may do a follow-up extended interviews DVD in the future.
i just saw them both live this week, they blew my fucking mind, I honestly cant imagine anyone ever topping that show ever, maybe them if they tour again but the show was like the best movie you ever saw and i just want to see it again even if it was 100% the same just because it was so awesome. Only 4 guy rocking up that stage and they sounded so much clearer and better then the other bands and with the light show and the pure sound of them it was literally the most incredible experience of my life, there was a breakdown part at the end of the great destroyer which on the album im not to crazy about but i still like the song but live with the light show and all the bass from the breakdown it felt like a freaking dream or something, i cant even explain it, i hope he keeps playing because every single person there was going fucking nuts!
Captain Deadpool I had the chance to see they live few years ago and they performed The great destroyer too. I died 3 or 7 times during that song, life experience!
I think we're coming out of an era when many musicians didn't care about the process by which music was made. They just liked the versatility of PCs/Laptops. Now I think people are getting too obsessed with acquiring new hardware and shit. I need a balance between thinking about process, and creating musical output.
VST/AUs and plug-ins are getting better and better. Digital can do things that are very difficult to do with analog and vice versa. At this point, everyone should just worry about the tools that suit them best rather than the analog vs digital situation. I have analog synths and I love them - they makes me think differently and change the way I write songs. But I also love software when I can't afford $3000 + synths (I'm looking at you Access and Moog). It's all about finding your own voice in the instruments you use regardless of whether it's hardware or software. Same applies to any other instruments - guitar, drums, etc. Forget about branding or superficial worries like analog vs digital. The vision and end result is more important than the process.
***** I agree. It's awkward to bring computers and multiple midi controllers to do what one synth can. I guess it depends on everyone's accommodations. I would rather write on my Prophet so I can bring it to shows rather than having to purchase a new laptop and midi hardware.
I've got or owned several different synths :) there is something special about analog, my fave synth of today is the Moog Sub37, it's like picking up a guitar :)
Ever since around the year 2000, when everyone started stealing music files and Napster starting this, there is no money to be made in the music industry unless you have a famous band that is charging $100 plus per ticket. If musicians don't have the possibility to make an honest living at their craft, then it is just a hobby which doesn't mean shit. Music just becomes a liability with a lot of equipment costs associated with it, and very little if no income opportunities for the common musician like there used to be.
VST emulators and software sequencers... For those of us who can't play keys for shit! :( Then again, as I have posted on other videos of people who do the whole "laptop musician" thing and how we're "not talented" and others can produce a "whole song" in 10 minutes, just purely because we can't afford equipment and are inept when it comes to playing things, but want to make music. We're still musicians, and for those lucky enough to own or have access to such amazing equipment, like Trent does, then go you, but for the rest of us, we can only take our experiences and influences (crappy teens/dealing with stupid people and Trent Reznor/Alessandro Cortini, respectively), and make it into something meaningful, even with just a computer. I will always love analog (and A/D) synthesizers, how they sound, their circuitry and base components, their design, their tactile nature and, of course, how you program and play them (inbuilt keyboard and other weird controllers, like some of the Buchla controllers, they're amazing). My life goal will probably have to be designing and building one, but alas, I'm not at that stage yet, I can only design and build shitty little amplifiers on breadboards with LM741s. Lara - The Digital Princess ~ synthpophead and super huge NIN fan.
Hahaha! "Does that look like a fucking bell?" HAHAHAHAHA! I"ve started with nothing and built a song out of the sounds and tones I come up with while messing around. I can hear a song develp once I hear the right sonds through the synth. Great clip!
2019 question. Does cEvin Key romanticize gear like this? Maybe it's just apples and oranges but, I got into puppy and nails at the same time. I thought it was about the raw energy and message not how expensive equipment sounded?
Hi! I was excited to see a fellow Puppy fan in the comments section. Sorry my reply is late, but here's some videos that might help answer your question: ua-cam.com/video/GQi2eRnM06g/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Hk3yUzlyjyg/v-deo.html
@@rainbowrotcod Excellent video ive absorbed. Can't get enough of Kevin. Still doesn't answer my question since I'm a dummy. What were they doing differently ,if anything? Is Kevin still doing it on the cheap and competing with Trent? Did they trade equipment? I'm fascinated with this area.
The way Cortini is presented is hilarious. Like he just teleported there.
How do you know he didn't? :o
😂
Lmao dude just appeared
Thats what happens when you play with synths too much. You can just oscillate in.
👌
I would love to see Trent and Alessandro do a 3 hour synth session where they make music on the fly.
don't forget atticus and they should invite charlie clouser for a session. and if they get really lucky, rick wakeman.
trent is one of the VERY FEW musicians who made it without being a sellout,he either does it his way or doesnt, its beautiful.
@mrbrockpeters Art by definition is not a paying endeavor. The phrase "selling out" was coined to differentiate art in its purest form from its commercial derivatives. Today many words are used outside of their definitions. "Art" is an emotional expression put into a physical media or performance. Training can in some cases help an artist more accurately render their expressions. But to be paid, unless incidental to the arts creation, is to make goods or services. Not "art". To sell out is only to be looked down upon by some, but walk away both paid and recognized. For it is the strict adherence to art as a pure expression that leaves most great artists forgotten. As a whole i agree art can be found among the waves of commercial fads and forms. But we must always remember why most of what we love was created. For our money. No one can pay rent with a song. But when someone puts a lifetime of an average persons wages up their nose or in their veins and then is given this genius halo no one can touch that turns the commercial dreck they produced into gold standard classics. Every generation is obsessed with what they were told was cool. Then when they get older it becomes the only thing that's cool. Then when they are very old the beat younger generations with it like a stick yelling, in my day..... this isn't music, no no thiiiiiissss is music. Our precious human egos.
He was never one to half-ass anything. I adore him for it.
No wonder Trent's music is so intresting, It came from a true hobbyist, who is passionate about his stuff. Respect!
Alessandro Cortini makes astonishingly good ambient/drone analog albums
Hes being quite ambient in this interview..
I listen to his music every week
your favorite?
@@ericvalverde5945 risveglio
So much of his instrumental music is so open to individual interpretation that it tells stories. The stories are different for each person and I find the ones they tell me, to be extremely important.
These guys REALLLLLLLLYYYYY know what they are talking about. Great artists.
This video is the proof that Trent speaks in tune.
MonoTune
Trent uses the word resonated in pretty much every interview, i just wish he would say reznorated instead :(
This. ^
Hahaha, YES!
No.
@@avidodd26 bit late to the party there bud.
The comment right above yours says the same joke but was is a year older.
I really admire how Trent can create absolute chaos in a song and also find beauty and calm within it. I've always said he is amazing at taming sound and what he creates is limitless. Truly an inspirational and pure artist to his craft. Massive respect.
Wow, Trent is my idol and inspires me to do great things in life. Him and his music changed me.
12:24 - This brings me to tears. I persuaded my mother to buy a second hand MS20 at a local music store for 50 euros when I was 11, in 1987. I remember this day clearly. After I went to bed I stayed up. And when I heard my parents went to bed, I waited for a while. Powered on my new synth and started turning the knobs. After a while I put my headphone cable between the keys... what a world of souds I could produce. I just hope kids these days get an experience like that.
What does putting the cable between the keys do? Asking for a friend...
@@Malvis4 it's an easy way to hold down a key so that you get a sustained note. It allows you to twiddle knobs with both hands to hear what is changing over time, while not losing a hand to just holding down a key
reznorated on many levels
Ahh I see what he did there....bcos there are many levels of sound!!! Man I'm smart!!
Does it look like fucking bells? Haha Trent is awesome
+salame462 My dad and I quote this often
Yoghurt Sock Productions That's bad ass. When people say dumb shit to me I say it sometimes too and people look at me like what?? Haha
I love that there is a tuner in the background picking up the sound of the guys' voices and trying to work out the pitch!
"Does it look like fuckin' bells?".
I also agree with Trent. Alessandro and his synth on the snare is just him!
Another reason why I fell in love with Modwheelmood in the first place and have followed Alessandro's music since.
Trent is an amazingly talented artist, and is still my favorite concert I have ever been to.
This is a fantastic interview. I love listening to Trent's technical expertise. Thank you guys.
Trent has aged pretty well so far
You missed the fat years where he was kicking a drug. He looks good here. Not always true.
ahhh look at all those amazing things I can't afford.
I feel you man, I maybe could do the euro one, but the Buchla.... Forget it
Buy VSTs.
I could listen to TRent talk about synths all day.
Wow Trent Reznor and Akessandro man inspiration these 2 are great part of my musical inspire
would love to work them.....learn more of what I do ...How to do it better ("
"Does it look like fuckin' bells?"
All hail TRENT but he looks like the model on the “Just for Men” box...
he's so right about the mid-80s synth era
he's also right about plugins.
I find myself smiling and inspired and stimulated. Half the issue with a lot of music nowadays is its all sampled etc. Getting there by your own means having a journey actually creating and the mistakes along the way make for a very satisfying experience. It is always amazing to find encouragement where there is mistakes.
Such great information! Thank You!
Congratulations Trent,,, your best interview yet!
Trent is such an all around musician, GREAT piano player, excellent vocalist and good guitar player
Check the "Forse" series of albums by Alessandro Cortini, it's amazing.
Love these guys
Trent “Does it look like fuckin bells?” Reznor
Aalto and Kaivo from Madrona labs are great VST's for those
who can't afford modulars.. They don't seem to try and be emulators of any particular system and do things that analogue cannot. A good intro for people looking to get into modular too.
Analog synths sound better than sampling but it comes down to price and user experience. In todays day and age, people want simplicity, user friendly, and affordable. It's also hard to find someone who gives analog synth "lessons" so there's a big learning curve. Software can be easier to understand and manipulate. Great interview from two people I have the utmost respect for!
I disagree on the learning curve end. I learned 100x more about synthesis in the almost 4 years I've had a modular, than 10+ years with software and hardwired synths. Physically connecting a patch and following the signal flow is the perfect way to learn, imo.
Watching Trent and Alessandro talk about what they do and their experiences....makes me realize how little direction i have in my own life. I've pretty much become a slave to convenience and "shit casio solution" way of life. I really need to reevaluate my place in the machine...
Awesome interview! Yeah I can liken what they're saying to downhill mountain biking! Pedalling up the hill makes the down way more rewarding, instead of simply using the chair lift! Plus you get fitter (so in other words, a better musician)
Thanks for uploading this, was really hoping there would have been more on the IDOW bluray of Trent. Very much enjoyed watching this extended interview. :))
One good talk
I've got soft synths, they hardly get touched :) you get inspired so much more with hardware
plug in synths sound huge when you play them through the right amps
I could listen to these guys talk about music all day. I wish Trent would do a master class. It wouldn't make me a better musician because I suck but I would be so entertaining.
Don't even really know what they're talking about but it's so interesting somehow
"Does it look like fucking bells?" lmao
Thank you for having the hardcore edition.
Great interview.
Excellent.
I remember the DX7! A neighbor of mine had one when I was a kid. I played with that thing constantly!
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! I LOVE YOU.
I watched this interview about 2 years ago and after that i checked out alessandro's music. HOLY SHIT! Its good! I decided to re watched this interview since its where i first found out about him and leave this comment. Seriously if you love synth music and haven't heard his stuff check it out NOW!
love trent
IMO, I like the idea of modular synths and using separate effect pedals and mixing things up that way, mainly because I really hate the idea of getting some multi-effect processor that feels like it's been "approved" by some company. Like someone created a specific signal path, and it was then approved for commercial production.
How can Trent be a Hollywood sell out? When Someone asks you to make a film soundtrack with synths!! You say YES!!!
"Does it LOOK like fuckin' bells?" I love you Trent.
Just got the film today why is this not in the movie!!!!! I wish to see all the extended interviews and have them on DVD :(
Because four hours (Hardcore Edition running time) is the maximum that would fit onto a single dual-layer DVD. We may do a follow-up extended interviews DVD in the future.
Thank you for letting me know, great film :)
Good stuff
Trent's the man!
Please post the interview with Vince Clarke!
Same reasons I still shoot film. Great interview!
Love you reznor 😘😍
now i understand why he destroyed so many keyboards on stage,
He said in 1994 that instruments that don't work properly in a show deserve to be punished :v
a lot of people thought Trent was just a screaming maniac - listen to those 12 minutes.
ACE!!!
So glad Analog is back though, Moog, Sequential etc. is back.
‘Cut to random black guy playing’ 2:00
@Walter B exactly, if it was a white dude 10 bucks said they wouldnt have said random white dude
"Does it look like fucking bells?"
Grrrreat. When my shift is over I can't go near all this.
What's that fantastic tune that comes in at around 9:00?
Olivier Egli This is very late, but it is from one of Alessandro's ambient albums.
Olivier Egli This is Alessandro's track called "Luna"
Sounds like the eater of dreams from hesitation marks.
i use a d7 synth and you should hear what i do with that fucker. awesome upload!!! i'm 40 and just got into NIN.
i just saw them both live this week, they blew my fucking mind, I honestly cant imagine anyone ever topping that show ever, maybe them if they tour again but the show was like the best movie you ever saw and i just want to see it again even if it was 100% the same just because it was so awesome. Only 4 guy rocking up that stage and they sounded so much clearer and better then the other bands and with the light show and the pure sound of them it was literally the most incredible experience of my life, there was a breakdown part at the end of the great destroyer which on the album im not to crazy about but i still like the song but live with the light show and all the bass from the breakdown it felt like a freaking dream or something, i cant even explain it, i hope he keeps playing because every single person there was going fucking nuts!
Captain Deadpool I had the chance to see they live few years ago and they performed The great destroyer too. I died 3 or 7 times during that song, life experience!
I think we're coming out of an era when many musicians didn't care about the process by which music was made. They just liked the versatility of PCs/Laptops. Now I think people are getting too obsessed with acquiring new hardware and shit.
I need a balance between thinking about process, and creating musical output.
VST/AUs and plug-ins are getting better and better. Digital can do things that are very difficult to do with analog and vice versa. At this point, everyone should just worry about the tools that suit them best rather than the analog vs digital situation. I have analog synths and I love them - they makes me think differently and change the way I write songs. But I also love software when I can't afford $3000 + synths (I'm looking at you Access and Moog). It's all about finding your own voice in the instruments you use regardless of whether it's hardware or software. Same applies to any other instruments - guitar, drums, etc. Forget about branding or superficial worries like analog vs digital. The vision and end result is more important than the process.
***** I agree. It's awkward to bring computers and multiple midi controllers to do what one synth can. I guess it depends on everyone's accommodations. I would rather write on my Prophet so I can bring it to shows rather than having to purchase a new laptop and midi hardware.
Cortini... The humble master taking a backseat.
I'll take what I can get. I have all the native instruments stuff at the moment Fuckin loving it.
I think this also describes how Trent removed one third of the units that Yamaha sold their DX7s if you know you know.
Omg these are some very old modules dang
Looks like the control panels of the space shuttle.
AMA request: someone who bought a synth from Trent Reznor
(anonymous silhouette with modified voice): "I DON'T KNOW MAN IT JUST STARTED MAKING NOISES AND THEN THE ALIENS APPEARED!"
Excellent, James Holden extended next?
I've got or owned several different synths :) there is something special about analog, my fave synth of today is the Moog Sub37, it's like picking up a guitar :)
Ever since around the year 2000, when everyone started stealing music files and Napster starting this, there is no money to be made in the music industry unless you have a famous band that is charging $100 plus per ticket. If musicians don't have the possibility to make an honest living at their craft, then it is just a hobby which doesn't mean shit. Music just becomes a liability with a lot of equipment costs associated with it, and very little if no income opportunities for the common musician like there used to be.
"I make fun of him when he's not siting next to me" that's so cute
This is all fascinating, but who is the grumpy guy next to Alessandro?
Trent: I enjoy the music of the Human League
LOL FROM 6:20 over the head of Reznor ! The tuner searching notes hahahahahahahaha xD
Holy shit he nailed it.
You could tell Trent is not only an artist but a technical genious
Way better than the interview of Trent by Moog itself
He is my Musical Hero
What is that tuner above Trent's head picking up?
VST emulators and software sequencers... For those of us who can't play keys for shit! :(
Then again, as I have posted on other videos of people who do the whole "laptop musician" thing and how we're "not talented" and others can produce a "whole song" in 10 minutes, just purely because we can't afford equipment and are inept when it comes to playing things, but want to make music. We're still musicians, and for those lucky enough to own or have access to such amazing equipment, like Trent does, then go you, but for the rest of us, we can only take our experiences and influences (crappy teens/dealing with stupid people and Trent Reznor/Alessandro Cortini, respectively), and make it into something meaningful, even with just a computer.
I will always love analog (and A/D) synthesizers, how they sound, their circuitry and base components, their design, their tactile nature and, of course, how you program and play them (inbuilt keyboard and other weird controllers, like some of the Buchla controllers, they're amazing). My life goal will probably have to be designing and building one, but alas, I'm not at that stage yet, I can only design and build shitty little amplifiers on breadboards with LM741s.
Lara - The Digital Princess ~ synthpophead and super huge NIN fan.
TR looks pretty stacked!
Hahaha! "Does that look like a fucking bell?" HAHAHAHAHA!
I"ve started with nothing and built a song out of the sounds and tones I come up with while messing around. I can hear a song develp once I hear the right sonds through the synth. Great clip!
They should show Barker & Baumecker and their live synth techno show
Whats interesting is now you have amazing Soft synths that can do things real hardware cant do. Ie U-he Zebra
If I've said in once, I've said it a million times: signal flow is fun!
I thought the bells on my Korg R3 sounded cool, then I see this and I'm like "... hm"
Damn he's so intense
if only I could figure out how to use the old shit and what the fuck to build it with I see circuit bending and its grasped but I couldn't do it lol
2019 question. Does cEvin Key romanticize gear like this? Maybe it's just apples and oranges but, I got into puppy and nails at the same time. I thought it was about the raw energy and message not how expensive equipment sounded?
Hi! I was excited to see a fellow Puppy fan in the comments section. Sorry my reply is late, but here's some videos that might help answer your question: ua-cam.com/video/GQi2eRnM06g/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/Hk3yUzlyjyg/v-deo.html
@@rainbowrotcod Excellent video ive absorbed. Can't get enough of Kevin. Still doesn't answer my question since I'm a dummy. What were they doing differently ,if anything? Is Kevin still doing it on the cheap and competing with Trent? Did they trade equipment? I'm fascinated with this area.
Surprising that Moog hasn't jumped on the Eurorack bandwagon, it seems to be more popular than ever.
So, I'm looking at the counter behind these guys and thinking, "must be fucking nice."