Honda Pioneer 700 BIG Battery Upgrade! Optima Yellow Top AGM
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- The Honda Pioneer 700 has a small, weak battery from the factory. After installing a bunch of electrical accessories on my Pioneer including a stereo, aftermarket lighting, a cab heater and a winch, it was time to make the upgrade. There was no room to add a second battery under the hood, so I installed one under the driver's seat. The stock battery has a measly 240 cold cranking amps while the Optima has a whopping 750, not to mention a long reserve time of 120 minutes at 25amps! In this video I will show you how I did it and how I wired it. Below will be Amazon (Paid) links to all of the items I used to make the switch.
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100amp Circuit Breaker (Optional for winch) amzn.to/3bFA1so
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Copper Ring Terminal Kit amzn.to/3q2IDP2
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20 feet 6 gauge Wire Kit amzn.to/3uDoy5r
Plastic Group 24 Battery Box amzn.to/3dTrTY2
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In the process of installing my new battery box thanks to your idea! One thing I did different was I went with an Optima Marine battery as it has an extra set of screw posts so I can attach all of my accessories to them and I isolated the battery and made it stand alone in case I left something on and ran the battery down. Thanks again for the great video and the relocate idea.
Man you are the GURU for those of us who own Pioneer 700's ! Thanks for all you research and instructions.
Thanks for the comment and watching!
I just started my research to upgrade my 2019 700-2. I was kinda leaning towards the same location and larger battery idea. Now, I'm sold. Thanks for the info. You explained it perfectly. I've got the inspiration and direction I needed. Thanks again. Looks Great...
Appreciate it.
Great video man, thx for taking the time to share. I'm in the process of doing the exact same install but for dual battery system. I used the 50 cal plastic ammo can from Harbor Freight to put in my tray to hold the battery. Thx for the Ideas man this helped me alot.
Nice Job. I have all similar problems as you with cold starting the main one. I am doing the same with mine, under hood. Hoping it won't continue to let me down in cold weather. Thanks for all the good info.
Great video. After watching your video, I'm planning on trying the same thing. I hope mine can look half as good as yours. Thank you for making this vid.
Looks good -did mine different , used normal batt made box and placed under hood hooked extra lights ,power steering and tunes to it
main batt for starting and winch.
I have a 2019 700 4 and was about to do the duel battery but now this makes perfect sense! Thanks.
Quick question? I have a wench, amp for radio, and light bars should I add all those to the auxiliary side of the 100amp breaker?
Great idea I currently have mine mounted to the floor between the drivers side and passenger floor. Bit this idea is a lot better
great job,thanks for the video
nice upgrade!
great upgrade. Yes it really needs a larger batterie, and easier to install accessories.
I welded a 2" flat bar to the bottom of my box like your box, bent the remainder of the bar going up the side of the battery/outside the left side of the battery that tied into the outside (left) of the seat bracket with a bolt/nut pulling it upwards. The battery box without this brace had a wiggle. It doesn't now. I also didn't insulate my battery box yet. I'm planning on using some thin galvanized HVAC metal to protect the battery from rocks, etc.
Good job. I see all kinds of ways of doing these machines. I would definitely wrap that battery with some cool it or more insulation. Gets crazy hot. Some guys header wrap the header for the heat and noise. 👍
I have the opposite problem on mine. I can never get the machine hot. I think it's my use. I don't do any mudding or anything, just around my wooded property. Nonetheless, I put heat shield on the side of the battery box to help keep the heat out.
If you've seen my ride on the 700 site. I dont mud either, just around the lake and trails 👍
What size battery cable do I need
Man you did an awesome job describing how to do this . Is that heat shrink on your main leads going to the battery ?
No. It is the split plastic wire loom stuff wrapped with electrical tape. It's just to protect the wire from any rubbing or chaffing on the frame anywhere.
U better do another upgrade for a aluminum or steel grill to block the radiator from any debris because some one ran over a willow tree and a branch wound up through my radiator,the radiator is garbage it's made so thin,that now I had to make a grill to help it stay safe for the second time
I like this idea. Did it make any difference for cold weather starts? That’s what I am most concerned about. I know in a video u changed plugs to iridium’s.
The battery and plugs did help a lot with cold starts. I always turn the key and let it prime completely and then turn the key. If it doesn't start right away it's best to let off the key and then immediately turn it again and it will always fire right up. These things don't like the extreme cold as far as starting goes but once you learn the system they fire every time
Great video, thanks! Time for me to make the same upgrade due to added accessories. I am curious as to how you went about choosing this battery with so many choices out there? Were you going for most power that would fit in that location or other reasons? Why not a car/truck battery with 750 CCA? Sorry if dumb question but are there limitations/parameters that must be met? Thanks for all your videos, they are so well done!
I chose this battery because it is also meant to be drained on using the stereo or some other accessory and still be able to start the vehicle. A regular car battery is not meant to be run down. It's meant to provide all of it's CCA power in short bursts to start only.
I noticed your radio, I have the exact same one in my 700, and put it in the same spot. But which rocker switch panel did u buy? I been looking for one that will fit next to my radio.
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Thank you for the video.
I have all the players for the upgrade except the angle for the battery box. I will be welding it together like you did, but I have a couple of questions.
Our local box store has the 1 1/4” and 1 1/2” angle like j your video. It’s Zinc and only 14ga. I was thinking of using the 1 1/4” angle iron but it’s much thicker than 14ga.
Have you noticed any flexing or cracking in the lighter angle you used since the weight of the battery could cause some flexing as you mover over rough terrain?
Thanks again for the video and the insight.
Cheers
I haven't had any issues at all but it definitely wouldn't be a bad idea to use stronger than necessary metal. You really cant overbuild this box, especially if you do a ton of offroading, which I do not.
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Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
Have a great day and thanks for making awesome videos on DIY projects.
Cheers
Hey there, great video. So, after 10 months how is your battery set up working? Is there anything you would do differently? Thank you for all your videos on the Pioneer. They have been a great help.
Still working great. Wouldn't do anything different.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone Cool. Thanks for the reply!
Battery is kinda low in case u ride in alot of water you will be grounding the battery out with the water from post to post being in the water, I had a battery under water for 48 hrs.and it went dead but I had it under water on the bike for a couple of hours and it was hard to start but it was the original battery
Why didn’t you add the battery under the bonnet in the front seems to be a lot of room there
What's the 700s stator output? Will it need to be upgraded?
It's about 450 watts I believe. Plenty of power.
Stupid question....so even if the 700 is running accessories like the radio, lights, etc. will still put a drain on the battery?
Just depends. If you excede what your stator can produce, which is around 450 watts, you will be eating battery life. For things like a winch, you need more reserve power. The stator on the side by side can't power the winch at all. It can only serve to charge the battery back up after you are done using it. This is why a larger battery is important when adding high electrical load accessories.
When you add an accessory, do you just hook to the pos and then to the neg?
I use a fuse block to ad accessories.
Good Evening,
I have all the parts for this upgrade and was wondering, looking back, is there anything you would change or recomend when doing this?
No. Still works great. Never have to worry about a dead battery.
Thanks, when you installed your 100amp breaker for the big battery upgrade, did you remove the 30amp breaker you ran for the six blade fuse block that powered your accessory panel on the dash in your earlier upgrade? Essentially running it all through the bigger 100amp breaker or did you just kept them both separate running your winch solely on the dedicated 100amp breaker? I am currently installing a winch and an accessory panel and was wondering. Also, did you utilize the same 12v accessory line from the cigarette lighter to power the relay(accessory panel upgrade) as well as the winch relay allowing power only when the ignition is on? What location did you end up using for the momentary winch button?
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to learn from your experiences.
So do you think this battery is probably double the size of the factory battery? Is that most of the reason why people put in two batteries because they are so small and drain down pretty quickly?
This is more than double the size of the factory battery. Yes. That is the reason. They just can't handle.any increased load from power heavy accessories
They put 2 batteries in so they have one to start the machine and the other to run solely the accessories.
I finally built my own battery box and put a deep cycle battery under the drivers side of the seat. What battery do you have the winch hooked to? And just an FYI, that top seat cover comes off with little effort. And there was no cutting of the plastic.
I only have this one battery so the winch is hooked to it
@@JackofAllMasterofNone I realized that after watching the whole video. Thank you for the reply and the. Videos
Will the charger maintainer in the bike keep a bigger battery charged and how big a amps battery can a person use on a Honda pioneer 700
My stator has had no problem keeping it charged so far.
It should be fine, as long as you aren't using more amps then the charging system puts out, it will charge the battery. Biggest thing is, if the battery is really low, make sure you charge the battery first instead of jump starting it, less load on the charging system.
U can put a bottom mount,
Was there any room under the bonnet to add a larger battery ????
Unfortunately not. I have a heater and multiple relay boxes for a winch and plow system. Also factory power steering. Just no room under the hood for a larger battery.
I’m in the home stretch of finishing!! I have a quick question? I bought that 100amp breaker but wondering if all my aux stuff goes on the aux. light bars amp for radio and winch?
Well I just ran the winch on the breaker. I have a separate fuse panel for all of my auxiliary circuits.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone with that said I was thinking I could use that 100 amp for a shut off and extra protection. What are your thoughts? If you Dont me ask I
@@TheMoleman4life Yeah that should work fine.
One last question and I’m out of your hair! Have you had any problems with the charging system or any system problems?
@@TheMoleman4life None at all. The only problem I had was one of my battery terminals went bad. I had an intermittent no start. Somehow the metal terminal was bad and I replaced it and all is well since.
Can I use any 12volt car battery? Just as long as it fits my battery box.
Yes u can. But a non-sealed lead acid could cause problems on rough terrain in a side by side because it will be all over the place and could spill acid.
I had questions on your turning signal video. The 5 point rocker switch. The top two are ground, the middle is power. The lower left goes to turn signals, not sure on the lower right. Where does that connection go to?
My thumbnail is linked to this video on Google. Why?
Good question
I’m going to do the same thing but with a marine battery because there way cheaper, would you get mad if I made a video explaining how I did it? Asking because it’s basically the same thing you did but with a different battery
😀 Appreciate the comment. You should make a video about it. The more the better. I'm just trying to help the Pioneer community.
@@JackofAllMasterofNone yea, my battery went out and looses charge quickly for about a month and instead of replacing it with the small junk oem one I don’t see why everyone doesn’t do a big battery upgrade. It will last a lot longer and better performance than oem
Why didn’t you add the battery under the bonnet in the front seems to be a lot of room there
I have a heater and a lot of other things under the hood. This battery wouldn't fit anyway