Adding Lanes and Removing Pedestrians - Cities: Skylines - Altengrad 76

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  • @noahguerra8847
    @noahguerra8847 Рік тому +525

    99% of city planners quit just 1 lane before solving traffic forever

    • @gachidevon5864
      @gachidevon5864 Рік тому +31

      america moment

    • @daltonbedore8396
      @daltonbedore8396 Рік тому +34

      @@gachidevon5864 funny but as this series shows, it was/is a global issue

    • @RegoMarsi
      @RegoMarsi Рік тому +9

      ​@daltonbedore8396 yes but in America it was way way worse

    • @daltonbedore8396
      @daltonbedore8396 Рік тому +1

      @@RegoMarsi im american, i know what it is 👍

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel Рік тому +5

      @@daltonbedore8396it’s a problem where I come from too, in England we desperately try to do car centric American style development but we just can’t do it because our island is too small, everything is closer together and densities are often high enough to be at least somewhat walkable. But you still do see some big roads and things like that, they’re just smaller and tend to have pedestrians infrastructure, just not to the degree you may want. My town’s widest road is 6 lanes and has bridges to cross and foot/cycle paths, but they’re all from the 50s and in poor condition. Unfortunately, some places are worse my town, but thankfully 10 lane suburban arterials never took off over here.

  • @jeffrey8979
    @jeffrey8979 Рік тому +43

    33:06 Seeing that nice little statue next to the bridge disappear made me sad

    • @jemsyago7163
      @jemsyago7163 Рік тому +10

      Would love for it to be returned there eventually. It was a nice detail and it was really unnecessary to remove it. (Perhaps the regime intentionally did it)

  • @ducc999
    @ducc999 Рік тому +153

    Can't wait to see some trolleybuses or perhaps even a metro system. A classic metro line that started construction in the 80s, froze in the 90s, and was finally finished in the 2000s.

    • @pistakrk4888
      @pistakrk4888 Рік тому +13

      trolley bus would be fire😍😍❤‍🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @skutočny_svišť
      @skutočny_svišť Рік тому +7

      Metro🤤🤤

    • @ComradeMeow
      @ComradeMeow Рік тому

      Both

    • @indigo_carmine
      @indigo_carmine Рік тому +25

      personal assistant of akruas for trolleybus/metro :P
      -trolleybuses: akruas has enough trouble with tram catenaries so doesnt want to struggle again also i think he doesnt have the dlc for them...
      -metro: its simple... what is there to see of a metro unless its above ground and thats like having trams so what is the point of making it...

    • @TheOmegakix
      @TheOmegakix Рік тому +1

      was never finished* But will be finished soon, anytime elections are near xd

  • @indigo_carmine
    @indigo_carmine Рік тому +304

    finally altengrad is heading the right way... get those pesky pedestrians in cars so they can drive on a 10 lane highway. what could go wrong lol

    • @shrgn
      @shrgn Рік тому +2

      where did he build a 10 Lane highway

    • @Pan_Schaboszczak
      @Pan_Schaboszczak Рік тому +47

      ​@@shrgnbro didn't understand the joke 💀💀💀

    • @michahogelo
      @michahogelo Рік тому +7

      bruh@@shrgn

    • @edplayssims
      @edplayssims Рік тому +9

      ​@@shrgnoh ok u just don't understand humor

    • @shrgn
      @shrgn Рік тому +7

      @@edplayssimstrying my best 😔💪

  • @alexsmith6322
    @alexsmith6322 Рік тому +63

    This series is actually insane. I have learned so much and have been so entertained throughout. Legitimately the best con tent that I have ever come across on UA-cam, mixing my passion for gaming and history and architecture. You’re a legend man

    • @danonck
      @danonck Рік тому

      Couldn't agree more! It's a perfect mix of all of these! And so entertaining I don't want it to stop, ever!

  • @henry6658
    @henry6658 Рік тому +6

    As an American, I can firmly say this is the best and most agreeable video you have ever made. There is still not enough parking though.

  • @antonisauren8998
    @antonisauren8998 Рік тому +6

    Every place in Wrocław you've shown was a pile of rubble between WW2 and building those roads. Plus most of them have underground passages for pedestrians. Some got additional level crossings in recent years. For my whole live I got like three tickets for running across them to get to tram. :D

  • @cameron224_
    @cameron224_ Рік тому +39

    I love this series. Every episode is gold.

  • @fenxis
    @fenxis Рік тому +16

    Ok that tram station is completely brilliant!
    Hopefully in CS:2 it won't be such a pain to manage pedestrians.

  • @namenamename390
    @namenamename390 Рік тому +3

    I love seeing the streets you built years ago, with tons of decals and POs, be updated with Intersection Marking Tool and other more modern CS building techniques. It always amazes me how far the modding community has taken this game, especially over the last couple of years.

  • @litaveccz
    @litaveccz Рік тому +3

    About those uncrossable streets, I can recommend to watch old animated silent short film (4 min) from Vladimir Jiranek called Pivo pres ulici (Beer over street) from 70s.

  • @jellwerly
    @jellwerly Рік тому +6

    The best gift for 18th birthday thanks a lot for that series man.

  • @sophie.thomas
    @sophie.thomas Рік тому +6

    this was such a good episode, you are one of my favorite youtubers. the way you combine historical info with cityplannings ideas and alle with in cs is just amazing.

  • @nachoybru
    @nachoybru Рік тому +7

    You, sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

  • @googlegogel2673
    @googlegogel2673 Рік тому +15

    The historical and creative effort you put into your videos is truly amazing. Makes me wonder, how do you conduct the research for your Altengrad projects?

  • @Jazz-Man1910
    @Jazz-Man1910 Рік тому +24

    I love this series so much! This is the series that brought me to the channel and that kept me at the channel. Keep it up and love your work. Also, when will the city get a metro?

  • @breznknedl
    @breznknedl Рік тому

    disliking you for the projects you do is like hating an actor for a villain role they play. You are an amazing youtuber, cities skylines player and historian (i mean kinda). This series is such an eye opener for how there are e.g. small alleys next to a 4l sunken "highway" in my city. Thank you for the content that you make!

  • @jarofjam6035
    @jarofjam6035 Рік тому +2

    I must say - this feels more like a scientific work than traditional gameplay. I wonder if those interesting videos could be compiled into some real publication, even a book. Love ya!

  • @williamduke1756
    @williamduke1756 Рік тому

    Love it. The only thing missing now is a 12 lane freeway ripping the city in two pieces.

  • @daniellxnder
    @daniellxnder 9 місяців тому

    That traffic flow result made me cry of joy 🥲

  • @57thorns
    @57thorns Рік тому +6

    "removing crosswalks or building underpasses for pedestrians to increase road capacities"
    I love that you are not even pretending the "safety" pretext for underpasses.

  • @mewosh_
    @mewosh_ Рік тому +5

    A great part of seeing these decades in Altengrad while being from Central Europe, is the fact that we all know places very similar to what you're building, and we can relate to it.

  • @mewosh_
    @mewosh_ Рік тому +1

    That area with the pedestrian underpass reminds me so much of Plac Bohaterów Getta in Kraków which is a absolutely horrible place to be. I really love how you recreated such kind of space.

  • @konrad4180
    @konrad4180 Рік тому +6

    Breathtaking video, as always. Great job, carry on.

  • @alexpavlisin6310
    @alexpavlisin6310 Рік тому +2

    Man I love your videos of Altengrad, i would watch it every day and i wouldn't be bored.

  • @luquai
    @luquai Рік тому

    From all the car focused „modern“ episodes, this is my absolute favorite! Good job 👍🏻

  • @CitiesByDiana
    @CitiesByDiana Рік тому +4

    now THIS. THIS is the content I crave.

  • @Project2457official
    @Project2457official 9 місяців тому

    Really awesome video! The way you talk reminds me of listening to a lecture in university (in a good way lol!) very educational and a good series!

  • @bentilbury2002
    @bentilbury2002 Рік тому +3

    Akruas is another reason to look forward to Friday 🙂

  • @BlazingImp77151
    @BlazingImp77151 Рік тому

    Loving the series, wish youtube would push it to my subscriptions feed rather than just home page recommended, I almost missed this episode.

  • @Freekeh99
    @Freekeh99 Рік тому +1

    Really appreciate the switch to 1440p!

  • @mulvasworld
    @mulvasworld Рік тому

    Really great work! My jaw dropped multiple times, love the level of detail in the city but also in your commentary! You mentioned bridges that needed to be expanded in real life~in the 1960s the London Bridge was no longer able to handle the amount of traffic and was dissembled brick by brick and sent to the US where it now crosses Lake Havasu in Arizona. have crossed the bridge myself~there's a Little Europe feel in the area surrounding the bridge now, nice vacation spot!

  • @petrhajduk9955
    @petrhajduk9955 Рік тому

    One thing to mention could be the speed limits, part of reasoning behind these safety structures is that cars were allowed to go as fast as 70 kph in the city streets. Outside the city speed limits were only introduced after the oil crisis to save fuel.

  • @ΚωνσταντίνοςΚυριάκου-λ1υ

    Excellent episode. Really liked the techniques you used to create the roads and make them so realistic

  • @CitySkyliner
    @CitySkyliner Рік тому +1

    Great video, taking notes ✍

  • @DrazikLeVideaste
    @DrazikLeVideaste Рік тому

    so damn great, everytime I just seat down, take popcorn and watch your episodes like a movie !

  • @kaksnha4066
    @kaksnha4066 Рік тому +11

    Very good and especially realistic episode. Looking at the last view from above I think it would be realistic to build some tunnels under the new pedestrian area which is inspired by the Alexanderplatz. If the tunnel comes out behind the park this would be a „nice“ ring road which connects the old town with the other parts of the city across the river.
    Something similar exists in cities like Frankfurt (Willy-Brandt-Platz and Taunusanlage) or Stuttgart (Schlossplatz) where a tunnel was build under a pedestrian area or park.

    • @Akruas
      @Akruas  Рік тому +12

      Oh there will be tunnels, just a little elsewhere

  • @echsecutioner
    @echsecutioner Рік тому

    Man this is a great project! Thank you for putting in the work!

  • @Ne1vaan
    @Ne1vaan Рік тому

    21:30 Easy explanation: the bridge had a designer way back in the prewar era who was ahead of the times and correctly predicted much higher load requirements in the future. 70s Altengrad is collecting the dividends of such foresight. You can't easily come up with a real example because not much fuss is made because such things are as common as the failures of previous generations which get all the attention.

    • @melissaharris3389
      @melissaharris3389 8 місяців тому

      My historical theory was that the bridge was designed and built between 1895-1909 (possibly by a notiable local engineer or architect) and originally was designed to have a rail line added at some point. That's why it was built so wide. That never happened; most likely due to WW1 and economic changes in the interwar years. Ironicly, NOT being a rail line saved it from allied booming during WW2. The bridge peirs were built partially of reclaimed stone from older structures (medieval or renaissance) and brick around (then new technology) of reinforced concrete cores; making it exceptionally strong and able to stand up to modern loading.
      The steel girder road bed was refurbished and slightly widened beginning in the 1960s, and it continued until the 70s. Probably causing intermittent closure or restrictions of traffic. The statues on the bridge were designed by a nationally import artist, so they were preserved and restored.

  • @Spoon3rYT
    @Spoon3rYT Рік тому +7

    Don't feel bad, even Dresden has no terrain glitches at 5:19

  • @bigmoneybusiness5989
    @bigmoneybusiness5989 Рік тому

    Love this episode! Enjoyed the creative the underground tram access.

  • @ZMW7
    @ZMW7 Рік тому +20

    Guys he’s solving traffic

  • @Domenssen
    @Domenssen Рік тому

    I suppose you could use the example of the Margit bridge in Hungary that got demolished (actually 2 times) during the retreat of the german army, then rebuilt in just 3 years using parts of the destroyed bridge and then got fixed and slightly widened again at the end of the 70's.
    Anyway nice and informative video, thumbs up!

  • @epicanova
    @epicanova Рік тому +1

    I do the same thing with my roads, just make a bunch of custom Road Builder networks and skip the vanilla prefabs. You can add street lights and road arrows as well with prop fillers.

  • @Hurkas
    @Hurkas Рік тому

    Such a nice build!
    I'm assuming that Altengrad will have an airport at some point. I highly suggest taking inspiration from the old Terminal 1 in Liszt-Ferenc International Airport (formaly known as Ferihegy International Airport) in Budepest. The terminal is such a good building, and its also a well built one! The runway layout is simple 1 runway one.
    It would be nice to see something like that airport in Altengrad, cuz it would fit the city very well.

  • @MineRickStar
    @MineRickStar Рік тому

    You gotta look at Heidelberg in the South of the main Station.
    They build everything new there because it was old industry and the best part of it are the pedestrian, cycling routes and the tramstops

  • @Giordinosaur
    @Giordinosaur Рік тому

    I know this is off topic from this video. But I just saw a video about Ještěd Tower Hotel in Czechia and I feel some creative freedom project in Altengrad would be a nice touch!! Especially since Ještěd Tower was building the 60s/70s!

  • @Dietsch_
    @Dietsch_ Рік тому +2

    I'm glad that this episode wasnt mass distruction atleast
    I wonder if or when the Altengrad metro will come

  • @user-zv1we9jb7u
    @user-zv1we9jb7u Рік тому

    You have no idea how much it hurts to see more car infrastructure being built. But, it is historically accurate...

  • @georgeowen2553
    @georgeowen2553 Рік тому

    There's so much potential for even uglier interchanges. I'm waiting for the highway along the waterfront in front of the castle... and at 34:50 a nice larger five-lane roundabout...

  • @DoctorFaktor
    @DoctorFaktor Рік тому +1

    Amazing episode, as always. Thank you.

  • @molybdane7240
    @molybdane7240 Рік тому

    I think you should take any opportunity to, when widening roads leaves you with too little space, remove the sidewalks altogether. There's a very good example of that in the first 2 minutes of the video. Other than that, you make the dream of the 3rd quarter of the 20th century come alive and looking as it should. The tram tunnel covers are very good.

  • @shinitai-
    @shinitai- Рік тому

    Your content is amazing, i think you're the best C:S player. GJ Akruas!

  • @TheOrderOfDanos
    @TheOrderOfDanos Рік тому

    Awesome, really makes a realistic difference and its so cool to see an organic evolution for infrastructure. I hope you're gonna have Altengrad affected by important international geopolitics that'll be coming up for the end of the century. Can't find my other comment where i said the same thing but seeing how Altengrad deals with perhaps joining NATO and the EU in the future would be amazing for lore and some scenes like flagpole ceremonies
    Also have you considered Embassies? I'd imagine that would be a really cool project for unique building looks and gifts of historical buildings, plus the flags of real countries are always available too

  • @hapukurk6664
    @hapukurk6664 Рік тому

    Tallinn, Estonia, still has multiple tram stations where the car lanes are platforms XD

  • @NS_Miata
    @NS_Miata Рік тому

    That bridge erea with that church at 33:11 looks so much like Bratislava, i think.

  • @michahogelo
    @michahogelo Рік тому +1

    amazing as always!

  • @plypayj3
    @plypayj3 Рік тому +1

    Very good.

  • @aonn1995
    @aonn1995 Рік тому +4

    Maybe the Poniatowski Bridge in Warsaw?

  • @KrokLP
    @KrokLP Рік тому

    Knowing Dresden and also Breslau, I can tell you that around that big artierialsthe city just feels dead, especially when you remember what it looked like before the war

  • @halayoussef6981
    @halayoussef6981 Рік тому +7

    I love your videos❤

  • @Dejroslaw2448
    @Dejroslaw2448 Рік тому

    Gardening colonies are actually very cool idea

  • @mienislav
    @mienislav Рік тому +1

    15:24 There is something called "Vienna type stop" which is an alternative to these dangerous stops. What about building some kind of these platforms?

  • @Uselesscommentary
    @Uselesscommentary Рік тому +1

    Looking at the intro shots I can't help but to notice the lack of bridges. Feels unreal just to have only few bridges.

  • @wovter
    @wovter Рік тому

    Love the episode as always!!

  • @taxevader4095
    @taxevader4095 Рік тому

    you should add a ringway soon (maybe in 1970s) , would help traffic and is realistic for this time period

  • @shindenfighter3303
    @shindenfighter3303 Рік тому +1

    Damm is Akruas falling into the same trap as modernist city planners? "Cars flowing so nicely", "Eliminated bottlenecks" while talking about the center of the city where the car is just a guest

  • @kubusbigosisnki
    @kubusbigosisnki Рік тому +2

    Wroclaw my city❤

  • @romanrat5613
    @romanrat5613 Рік тому

    Great video

  • @gp5313
    @gp5313 Рік тому

    Gorgeous

  • @junkus64
    @junkus64 Рік тому +1

    you dont like them but you do like building them and i like wacthing you build them

  • @samgonsalves1831
    @samgonsalves1831 Рік тому +2

    Evil Akruas be like:

  • @qzg7857
    @qzg7857 Рік тому +1

    As someone from Wrocław. You are majing an AMAIZING WORK if You need any closeup photos give me an info

  • @shrgn
    @shrgn Рік тому +4

    I mean thats a reasonable amount of lanes, most European roads grow and look like this. I expected like 50 Lanes American style

    • @dragonbornexpress5650
      @dragonbornexpress5650 Рік тому +2

      Unless you're somewhere like Texas, you're not gonna encounter too many stroads. (Not that they don't exist in every state; It's just that Texas is one of the more infamous for it.)

  • @Lightndavoid
    @Lightndavoid Рік тому +2

    Surprised the destroyed bridge survived this episode. Would be a shame to see it go as it is now essentially a historical landmark. Would they have gotten rid of the supports in tbe river though?

    • @Akruas
      @Akruas  Рік тому +2

      The remnants will eventually go, but no spoilers ;)

  • @Fifi_sc
    @Fifi_sc Рік тому

    9:45 Plac Grunwaldzki is the name of the district not this roundabout

  • @saber1885
    @saber1885 Рік тому

    new altengrad video!!!!

  • @pashauzan
    @pashauzan Рік тому +3

    Will you do another Altengrad tram ride video?

  • @danieswas
    @danieswas Рік тому

    99% of American designers:
    "Let's add another lane!"

  • @LucaFuchs2
    @LucaFuchs2 Рік тому +1

    Witch year shoud altengrad be finished. 2000, 2020 it the date of last episode ?

    • @Akruas
      @Akruas  Рік тому +1

      I don't really plan on ending it, maybe I'll take it into some theoretical future.

  • @dejv1q_
    @dejv1q_ Рік тому

    hi akruas, where i can download that tram roads ? or names of roads

  • @SaiyanJinx
    @SaiyanJinx Рік тому +1

    what city are you using for reference?

    • @thedisintegrador
      @thedisintegrador Рік тому

      Well he’s kinda mentioned then at the beginning, Budapest, Wrocław, Dresden, Prague… I can notice one “Square” from Prague at the end of what he built

    • @bengorst9108
      @bengorst9108 Рік тому

      he's got a nice detailed explanation in the video description - it basically says multiple Central European cities

  • @kaiserteddie9564
    @kaiserteddie9564 Рік тому +1

    yooooooooooooo
    thanks for the new vid

  • @999zappion
    @999zappion Рік тому

    Boulevard are better than highway so good choice

  • @philipcrash765
    @philipcrash765 Рік тому

    You should play the game: Workers and Resources: Soviet Republic, I think that would be much more fitting to what you are trying mimic in Cities Skylines.

    • @romanrat5613
      @romanrat5613 Рік тому

      Not at all. That game provides nowhere near the level of customizability and realism that is allowed by CS’s mods

  • @flupsiupsi
    @flupsiupsi Рік тому

    What about a pedestrian-only bridge in the 80s?

  • @luschmiedt1071
    @luschmiedt1071 Рік тому

    Wouldn't it ne possible to usw intersection marking tool to replace all sidewalks in the old town so you can switch the concrete texture permanently? So you dont have to switch between the two textures between suburb and city Center episodes

    • @Akruas
      @Akruas  Рік тому

      No, not all textures are on/near roads.

    • @luschmiedt1071
      @luschmiedt1071 Рік тому

      @@Akruas so what you are telling me.... we need more roads! Roads everywhere! ;)

  • @skolnikrasneradio
    @skolnikrasneradio Рік тому

    Hi Akruas, I have a big request - it would be great if you could upload your assets for the workshop. I really like your underpass entrance inspired by Prague and your streets created in Roadbuilder. I would greatly appreciate it! And I believe I wouldn't be alone.

  • @pat_mat9
    @pat_mat9 Рік тому +1

    I live in Dresden

  • @hanysslunzok1626
    @hanysslunzok1626 Рік тому

    Wrocław was actually destroyed in about 70% during the war

  • @achillenyckees3504
    @achillenyckees3504 Рік тому +3

    Adam Something crying and seething right now

    • @Molocolp
      @Molocolp Рік тому

      good, that guy is an obnoxious asshole. there are so many better urbanism channels than him

  • @JelleCraftYT
    @JelleCraftYT Рік тому

    they gebuild Rotterdam like that after the mass bombings from the Germans and after they saw that traffic was worse than on ped focus cities they rebuild almost all of te roads so it was ped friendly and traffic improved

  • @afl6786
    @afl6786 Рік тому

    Everything was bigger at 60' and 70'

  • @ryanwalsh6660
    @ryanwalsh6660 Рік тому

    When will we see the start of the 80s

  • @MeTrehugger
    @MeTrehugger Рік тому +1

    I want the 2020s so much to remove roads this big

  • @Meister_Warpy
    @Meister_Warpy Рік тому +7

    I think that balance is important. You can't have a functional city without cars or enough room for pedestrians. If the city were completely without cars, I think that no one would live there. But we shouldn't prioritize car traffic so much. Unfortunately, many people are going to extremes. They either don't want to make more space for pedestrians or want to destroy all roads and scream even about just one-lane roads. We need balance and harmony between the two worlds.

    • @serebii666
      @serebii666 Рік тому +5

      " If the city were completely without cars, I think that no one would live there." Counterpoint: Venice. A city so popular because of its lack of cars, people today can't afford to live in it.
      "They either don't want to make more space for pedestrians or want to destroy all roads and scream even about just one-lane roads" That is such a bad faith argument. No one, not a single person argues for total pedestrianization of entire cities. The discussion is prioritizing pedestrians in city centers, increasing green canopies, and reducing car traffic to the bare minimum, so that people would be encouraged to use alternate transit, while allowing at minimum emergency vehicles, the disabled and deliveries, if not more. The simple fact is, cities, especially their centers, which were built far before cars, do not need everyone to have guaranteed on street parking or 4-lane high capacity roads. It is simply disingenuous to frame the discussion as 2 extremes, because it simply is not. Advocates for reducing car dependency are nowhere as virulent or entitled as car lobbies, that scoff at even proposals for speed limits of 30 kmph in city center residential neighbourhoods - all because any loss of their "god given rights! to drive cars anywhere is wholly unacceptable.
      "We need balance and harmony between the two worlds." And today there is still no balance. We still give far too much space to cars, even in advanced cities like Amsterdam, let alone places like Prague.

    • @fishman501
      @fishman501 Рік тому +1

      In Zermatt, Switzerland they have no cars owned by regular people, but instead you walk, cycle or take a bus/taxi, since most vehicles in Zermatt are small electric vans similar to milk floats. There is an interesting video about it by Tom Scott.

    • @Meister_Warpy
      @Meister_Warpy Рік тому +3

      @@serebii666
      ,,Counterpoint: Venice. A city so popular because of its lack of cars, people today can't afford to live in it." - Venice is a really specific place that no one should compare regular cities with. It's one of the most visited cities in the world. It's a tourist attraction, and its main purpose is to get every nickle and dime out of tourists. Because of that, it's full of hotels, restaurants, sights,... It's not a regular city.
      It's a really small city. Not only by its footprint but by its population too. 50 000 residents is really a small number. And the resident population of Venice is in constant decline. Every year, thousands of people flee. The current number of residents is around 70% of that in the 1950s. Most of the people in Venice are tourists who stay there for a week or two. Most of the cities in the world are not as popular and sought-after as Venice.
      ,,No one, not a single person, argues for the total pedestrianization of entire cities." - Youre wrong. I met a lot of people who were completely for banning cars in cities. If you didn't meet any, it doesn't mean that they don't exist. Many activists are against cars in general. If I didn't meet anyone like that, I wouldn't talk about it.
      ,,It is simply disingenuous to frame the discussion as two extremes, because it simply is not." - That's a strawman. I didn't frame the discussion as two extremes. I only said that MANY (NOT ALL OR THE MAJORITY!) people are taking things to extremes, which is wrong.
      ,,Advocates for reducing car dependency are nowhere as virulent or entitled as car lobbies, which scoff at even proposals for speed limits of 30 kmph in city center residential neighborhoods." Maybe it's because they want to limit speed in the city as a whole. For example, in Prague, they are protesting by blocking traffic on the most important speedway and are lobbying for 30km/h max, even though that road is completely shut off from pedestrian access. Or when the government wants to build a highway so cars can go around the city instead of cutting through the city center, activists abuse the judicial system and are constantly crying about endangered frogs or hamsters. One such case took over 10 years, but finally the government won, and the highways are under way. They even admit that they just want to block the construction for as long as possible, even though they know that they will lose. Such cases exist on both sides of the spectrum. Just because you haven't met them doesn't mean that they don't exist.

    • @Meister_Warpy
      @Meister_Warpy Рік тому

      I'll take a look. It's important to realize that Zermatt is a town of around 5000 people, which is a really small number. I don't think that this approach is applicable to big cities with hundreds of thousands or millions of people. But it's still an interesting idea to make even villages or small towns less car-dependent.@@fishman501

    • @serebii666
      @serebii666 Рік тому +3

      @@Meister_Warpy You started your comment with an strawman - an extreme case example. So I countered with the only city I know for a fact satisfies even your extreme case as a counterpoint. Venice is a regular city, a functional city, people live there, work there, there are municipal services, they generate economic activity. It is a city like any other in behaviour. What makes it unique is that even after 130 years of the automobile, Venice still presents as it did before that great transformation, and it is visited for that reason, just like the preserved old city centers of Florence or Barcelona or Prague are. Venice is a regular city, with unique attributes that makes it attractive to certain economic sectors, just like London is for finance or Miami is for commerce.
      50.000 is still a sizeable city, and for the historical center that is still around 10.000 people/km2, which is an astronomical density in comparison to other European cities (it gives it a density between Lyon or Cádiz fyi, making it top 17 most dense). Nobody is fleeing Venice, they are being economically pushed out by rising prices due to mass tourism. That is what I was referring to by them being priced out of the city's own extreme popularity. I recommend you look at the great many documentaries focusing on the economic issues of the city and the reasons why the residents are forced to leave.
      " Many activists are against cars in general." That is not the same as banning them in their entirety and over the entire city. I will repeat: no one has that extreme a position, and certainly not anyone educated on the issues of urban planning. But I an not surprised if it is used as a catch all rebuttal to the people who vehemently fight any urban restructuring that does not explicitly favour cars. As a means of pushing the Overton window, it is valid, though you should be able to actually read between the lines of such a discussion.
      "I didn't frame the discussion as two extremes." You presented only really 1 arguments of the car debate: 1. that crazy activists want to ban cars entirely, and then implicitly other people want the situation to stay basically as it is. Then you synthesized it into a conclusion of "lets live in harmony kumbaya keeping cars in cities". Your presentation built up an argument to make it ridiculous and then you tore it down with the more "sensible" status quo. You are the one building a strawman. All in service so that the readers of your comment feel that traffic calming measures are unreasonable.
      "Maybe it's because they want to limit speed in the city as a whole." That is a blatant lie. Especially for Prague, the discussion centered around side streets as they are defined in the Urban Zoning Plan, not the cities boulevards, let alone the main arterials.
      "even though that road is completely shut off from pedestrian access." Another lie.
      "activists abuse the judicial system" aCtIvIsTs - are you serious? Are you seriously presenting the legally mandated feasibility and environmental studies as judicial abuse? Czechia has as a whole severe issues with an overdeveloped permitting process, which is why it likewise takes about 8 years to gain a building permit for building construction. But when this same system is applied to transport it is suddenly activist tyranny? Be real please.
      "Just because you haven't met them doesn't mean that they don't exist." You have deferred to an entirely different discussion with different arguments to circle back to that baseless claim. No, NIMBYS not wanting a planned ring road around their villa colony, nor your fake points on intra-center adaptations are not remotely the same as "activists wanting to ban cars entirely". It's almost as if cities are complex organisms with a great many stakeholders that need to collaborate and compromise.

  • @Marcoshsilvaa
    @Marcoshsilvaa Рік тому

    🤩

  • @pistakrk4888
    @pistakrk4888 Рік тому

    absolutely terrible! Loved it :Dd

  • @akiraraiku
    @akiraraiku Рік тому

    This tram is so bad, is takes away so much space for cars and slow them down.
    It takes the space for at least 4 to 5 lanes !

  • @przemekadamski9923
    @przemekadamski9923 Рік тому

    add first person tram ride pleace :)