LGR Oddware - NEC PC-FXGA DOS/V Game Accelerator Card

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  • @LGR
    @LGR  4 роки тому +268

    The full version of "A Dragonfly" in now available for your viewing pleasure:
    ua-cam.com/video/KSweaD7PWqw/v-deo.html

    • @damstachizz
      @damstachizz 4 роки тому +7

      So we Dragonwave now?

    • @anapananapa
      @anapananapa 4 роки тому +3

      Thank you.

    • @TheOneTrueGodUkko
      @TheOneTrueGodUkko 4 роки тому +3

      Better love story than...

    • @MemeReviewer
      @MemeReviewer 4 роки тому +2

      Just want to ask you something, do you know anything about The Number Nine Revolution IV? A friend gave me his custom built machine of 98’ and he forgot about it. And I can barely find any info on it.

    • @juanitamorgan6814
      @juanitamorgan6814 4 роки тому +4

      I also have a crippling addiction to Yahoo Auctions so I know that feel. It's tough these days now that shipping from Japan costs an arm and a leg.
      Edit: Also just wanted to express my appreciation for the quality content you've put out over the years. Thanks

  • @hisham_hm
    @hisham_hm 4 роки тому +482

    13:06 "I'm not here to review the games", says Lazy Game Reviews, truly honoring the first third of his name

  • @sandycheeks7865
    @sandycheeks7865 4 роки тому +171

    This console just sums up my experience of huge powerhouse Japanese multinationals who just 'dont get it'. NEC and Matsushita both had amazing technologies and developers who really could work magic but they just didn't understand what they had. I worked with NEC in the 2000s and you could see they were just this huge oil tanker of an organisation, with hundreds of departments doing their own thing and not really able to see a big picture or pivot when they had something (the PC Engine) that could take over the world (from the NES which had CREATED a market for japanese platform, shooting, fighting games and arcade conversions). Matsushita were the same with the M2 - I think someone like Trip Hawkins said something like "Sony took a console and behaved like a consumer entertainment company, whereas Matsushita took the M2 and acted like a consumer electronics company. Clint is kidding himself if he thinks that 3D video processor was on a par with the Saturn or PS. I have an old Edge magazine with an interview at the CES with the guy from NEC and it's clear he just doesn't 'get it' either. He is basically saying what's the point in 3D power when you can just play a video. He also says something like "the 3D computing capabilities of this machine are unlimited ...... because it doesn't have any" - but with no sense of irony at all - he totally believes not being able to generate 3D on the fly is the same as having infinite resources to do so. A totally bizarre interview. I was really excited for this machine and bought one when it came out, but soon realised that FX Fighter was a load of old rubbish and everything else was niche-japan only FMV.

    • @Malheirods
      @Malheirods Рік тому +14

      They also were partners of Videologic for PowerVR technology. While the first generation (PCX1/PCX2) was pretty decent, even surpassing the Voodoo on some games, the second could have crushed the Voodoo 2 in 1998. It was far, far more capable (something like 2x more) and it had a 2D core. It was basically as fast as Voodoo2's in SLI while cheap and adding an excellent 2D core.
      Instead of focusing on it, they sold it to Sega for the Dreamcast. While 10 million of chips for the console isn't bad, they missed the opportunity to have a solid long term foothold on this market.
      They could have been partners for the upcoming PowerVR3 which was, again, a excellent graphics chip (as fast as a Geforce2 GTS for the price of a Geforce2 MX, and it was with good old SD-RAM memory). STMicrolectronics & Hercules took advantage of it instead of Nec.

    • @Orangestar1
      @Orangestar1 9 місяців тому +11

      Man, someone needs to make a whole retro history bit on how much developers and companies totally overlooked 3D graphics in favor of "multimedia PCs". The MMX standard was a WACK thing.

  • @vickorano
    @vickorano 4 роки тому +354

    Whoever leant this to you with permission to open it all up & remove packaging, is a very generous soul indeed. And because of them, we were able to experience some period tech largely lost to time! Having you do the honors was a great choice, bringing all this rare oddware & vintage tech into the spotlight.

    • @Vlad2319
      @Vlad2319 4 роки тому +29

      It's possible he was having Clint test the card because Clint has most of the stuff needed to run it without complications (the ¥ in particular).

    • @Geewrecks
      @Geewrecks 4 роки тому +18

      Did he have to unwrap anything though? I was under the impression that what he received had already been opened. He burned copies of the packed-in CDs to keep them in their shrink wraps after all!

    • @mikewren8952
      @mikewren8952 2 роки тому

      Ikr💟

    • @RetroPlayer4000
      @RetroPlayer4000 Рік тому +1

      I agree but my question is he says he's maybe not gonna play all the games. Why, he gotta return it. But hey LGR is absolutely getting things done

  • @tharsis
    @tharsis 4 роки тому +199

    That card feels like a development machine made commercial. Theoretically, you can load your own PC-FX builds onto it, and have pretty much a full PC-FX console ready to go on a second monitor. It would be like instead of a Net Yaroze PS1 being a separate, stylist black console you connect to the PC, it's just a card you slot in and plug into your TV. Funky.

    • @stellated
      @stellated 4 роки тому +7

      You mean like the DTL-H2000?

    • @tharsis
      @tharsis 4 роки тому +5

      @@stellated I did not know about that. Wow, that's really neat!

    • @chairulamin6427
      @chairulamin6427 4 роки тому +3

      @@stellated it was rare to find that PlayStation ISA devkit...

    • @stellated
      @stellated 4 роки тому +1

      @@chairulamin6427 I wasn't suggesting it was but it was similar to what Daniel M was suggesting. It would have been cool if it had been sold to hobbyists like the Net Yaroze though.

    • @davidfranzkoch9789
      @davidfranzkoch9789 3 роки тому +2

      Exactly my thought. Gaming seems to be secondary. The killer feature is being able to push code to it (and rapidly test it).

  • @powerfulshammy
    @powerfulshammy 4 роки тому +322

    Ive seen that card on the 1st floor of NEC Manila office as design. My brother works at NEC Manila. We park on his office building indtead of the mall no parking fee. Next time I send you pics of old Hardware from NEC I'll take a pics of it in the building after pandemic.

    • @therainmakerinsider
      @therainmakerinsider 4 роки тому +25

      Send it to his Twitter account.

    • @WingMaster562
      @WingMaster562 4 роки тому +2

      Oh cool, didnt know they have office here in the Philippines.

    • @kyflo
      @kyflo 4 роки тому +3

      @@WingMaster562 Their office is in Makati. They offer broadcast solutions such as transmitters and encoders for Digital TV.

  • @LevyNeptune
    @LevyNeptune 4 роки тому +77

    Clint just sounds so out of his element with the Japanese games and I love it for some reason

    • @shocktnc
      @shocktnc 2 роки тому +9

      Finally someone unmarred by the degeneracy!

    • @spitfire184
      @spitfire184 7 місяців тому +1

      @@shocktnc ಠ_ಠ

  • @jipillow1
    @jipillow1 4 роки тому +753

    The T-Rex and dragonfly animation is what sent this episode over the top

    • @SolidSonicTH
      @SolidSonicTH 4 роки тому +12

      Very Sega Saturn-y.

    • @W4iteFlame
      @W4iteFlame 4 роки тому +14

      Very Japanese

    • @zainiikhwan9405
      @zainiikhwan9405 4 роки тому +19

      It's damn impressive for its time

    • @reptilez13
      @reptilez13 4 роки тому +13

      That was legendary. 90s Japan, when they were just finding certain areas of Japanese mainstays and voices... Epic.

    • @reptilez13
      @reptilez13 4 роки тому +7

      @@SolidSonicTH it would have been in 2D with like, screwy 3D or FMV added lol

  • @wal
    @wal 4 роки тому +239

    I bought an NEC Home Theater receiver back in 1988 and it was a very advanced unit. NEC was ahead of their time. Enjoyed the video, especially the dinosaurs and dragonfly sequence. Thanks for another excellent video!

    • @Ashquacks
      @Ashquacks 4 роки тому +1

      Oh hey it's Big D

    • @grumpysteelman
      @grumpysteelman 4 роки тому

      @@Ashquacks - He’s outta herrrrrre

    • @idipped2521
      @idipped2521 3 роки тому +4

      It's interesting that NEC is still around

  • @ReyMysterioX
    @ReyMysterioX 4 роки тому +239

    That moment the dinosaur fell down the cliff and was catched by that dragonfly was genuinely one of the most hilarious things I have seen in a while.

    • @tscottist
      @tscottist 4 роки тому +1

      10/10

    • @SuperSmashDolls
      @SuperSmashDolls 4 роки тому +5

      This is dangerous close to Cool 3D World levels of CGI weirdness

    • @TheMrawesomest
      @TheMrawesomest 4 роки тому +4

      The shot framing and music really takes it to the next level.

    • @MIchaelArlowe
      @MIchaelArlowe 4 роки тому +3

      I dreamt I was a dragonfly. When I awoke, I was I and not a dragonfly. Was I a dinosaur dreaming I was a dragonfly, or am I now a dragonfly dreaming I am a dinosaur?

    • @doomislav5791
      @doomislav5791 4 роки тому +1

      Plot twist!!

  • @melissapuyear342
    @melissapuyear342 4 роки тому +32

    My son (13) and I really love your channels, especially the thrifts, but really just enjoy watching your videos overall. Very entertaining and informative. My son loves and collects old tech. Your videos make our day! Thanks!!

  • @tfilefan
    @tfilefan 4 роки тому +51

    This is the oddest oddware in the history I guess.
    Paying 46,000 JPY and turn your PC into just optical drive / power supply.
    I love it.

  • @MultiTelan
    @MultiTelan 4 роки тому +80

    "No Plug N Play here, suck it up and do it yourself" is my new theme phrase.

    • @chrissawyer1484
      @chrissawyer1484 3 роки тому +3

      That's how we did it back in the day!
      (Get off my lawn intensifies)

  • @alexandredevert4935
    @alexandredevert4935 4 роки тому +174

    The t-rex riding the dragonfly is 90's poetry

    • @1xWertzui
      @1xWertzui 4 роки тому +10

      It looks like something that would belong to The Mind's Eye.

  • @yjk_ch
    @yjk_ch 4 роки тому +44

    3:10 Korean MS-DOS and Windows(including Windows 10) also replaces backslash with currency symbol(₩), at least with Korean fonts.

    • @FlameRat_YehLon
      @FlameRat_YehLon 4 роки тому +10

      While Chinese DOS usually got the correct \ sign because both GB2312-80 and Big-5 doesn't alter the standard 7-bit ASCII encode, with the down side being there is no half-width yen sign available, and things can get messed up easily if one byte of a wide character is missing. Though there is an unrelated quirk that the screen shows less lines to allow 16px character to be shown properly, at least for some eariler Chinese environments. (It's not my personal experience, though, by the time I start using computer the oldest thing I would use is Windows 98 which has Chinese support built into the DOS environment.)

  • @bigloudnoise
    @bigloudnoise 4 роки тому +235

    It's really weird seeing computer chips branded "Kubota", because the most common thing that company is known for making is farm tractors.

    • @Yomom12388
      @Yomom12388 4 роки тому +40

      I thought the same thing. It caught my eye immediately. I googled it and could find literally nothing about it. I mean, Yamaha makes dirt bikes and also keyboards. Perhaps Kubota dabbled im producing chips at some point?
      Edit: Yes, apparently in ‘86 Kubota began producing electronic circuit boards. Don’t know if they still do but that answers that. Apparently they actually make vending machines today too if you were curious.

    • @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks
      @TheObsesedAnimeFreaks 4 роки тому +21

      @@Yomom12388 Yamaha is a piano company that started making motors. Anything yamaha motors related is not "Yamaha." I'm also probably one of the few people that gives more of a shit about Yamaha's audio business then their motor company. Their logo is also 3 tuning forks in a circle so. it's partly because yamaha's audio business is one of the most well respected world wide. not for any particular quality, but they are good for what they do at the price they do it. nothing they make instrument wise is especially high end but it's not cheap either. their consumer audio equipment is also good, but they can't make speakers if they aren't studio monitors.

    • @cyclonebuzz8172
      @cyclonebuzz8172 4 роки тому +19

      Nissin makes ramen noodles and brake components for motorcycles / automotive.

    •  4 роки тому +7

      For me it evokes a memory of cheap rubber slippers you'd buy in Poland, in open air markets in the '90s, the crazy decade of randomness. Even more hilarious. They're kind of a cult item around here these days.

    • @Norweeg
      @Norweeg 4 роки тому +5

      Seeing that made me do a double take. I had no idea!

  • @GearSeekers
    @GearSeekers 4 роки тому +395

    Such an odd bit of gear. I reckon a TV tuner in the PC with the PC-FXGA plugged into it would be cool to see as well.

    • @Dtr146
      @Dtr146 4 роки тому +1

      I wonder if you can use an external ISSA slot adapter to run it by itself

    • @evensgrey
      @evensgrey 4 роки тому +7

      @@Dtr146 I wouldn't think so. The card would run (since it runs without the host computer actually finishing booting), but how would you access an optical drive?

    • @ianweber9248
      @ianweber9248 4 роки тому +9

      Yeah, if you were going to do that then you might as well track down a physical PC-FX.

    • @Dtr146
      @Dtr146 4 роки тому +3

      @@ianweber9248 yeah good point

    • @JaredConnell
      @JaredConnell 4 роки тому +3

      Pcfx-ception

  • @EmeraldBlack-up6xi
    @EmeraldBlack-up6xi 4 роки тому +69

    As a fan of anime from this era, I find this system's software lineup interesting. I looked through it, apparently there was a Tenchi Muyo visual novel on there. Zenki was apparently animated by the same studio as Ranma 1/2. Honestly, though, this machine looks cumbersome and impractical to use, unlike the 3DO card which felt more like it added functionality to the computer. I guess it makes more sense in Japan where people in small apartments are more likely to have their TV and computer adjacent.

    • @kennethgibson456
      @kennethgibson456 4 роки тому +14

      Any pc engine or msx types they are the most Japanese things ever. Games are so 80s 90s anime. Awesome

    • @nigelnigelakiraakira
      @nigelnigelakiraakira 4 роки тому +6

      Somehow I knew Tenchi Muyo would be associated with this thing! I kept thinking about it while he was playing through the Zenki game.

  • @dpc4548
    @dpc4548 4 роки тому +32

    This was such a great console, just released at a bad time. There are some amazing games here, despite only having 64 of them. I really wish NEC were to come back to consoles and be on top again.

  • @slopesgameroom
    @slopesgameroom 4 роки тому +612

    That dinosaur animation vs the PlayStation dinosaur animation

    • @slopesgameroom
      @slopesgameroom 4 роки тому +69

      ok the dragonfly just happened!!!! NO CONTEST!

    • @keithfulkerson
      @keithfulkerson 4 роки тому +46

      The nec dinosaur section was all pre-rendered video. The ps1 was doing it in realtime.

    • @SuperFriendBFG
      @SuperFriendBFG 4 роки тому +25

      Dragonfly just wins, hands down no contest "Flawless Victory". That Dragonfly video has filled a void in my heart.

    • @BadAnimeGroup
      @BadAnimeGroup 4 роки тому +11

      "The PlayStation can produce mind-boggling effects."

    • @matthewcb1970
      @matthewcb1970 4 роки тому +5

      To be fair, the PSX dinosaur demo had no background objects/textures. Still think it was far better than this $450 card though!!

  • @justjoeblow420
    @justjoeblow420 4 роки тому +142

    Scary thing is those 4 games are a little over 6% of the total library. Yes the PC-FX has that small of a library.

    • @redpup6931
      @redpup6931 4 роки тому +6

      @@hyperslime64 at least 4 Virtual Boy games is a 6th of library...
      Poor thing didn’t stand a chance

    • @Doobie3010
      @Doobie3010 4 роки тому

      @@redpup6931 Good for eyeball vision loss and headaches,the VBoy!

    • @sketchdajuggalo
      @sketchdajuggalo 4 роки тому

      There is more CDi things lol

  • @kondor99999
    @kondor99999 4 роки тому +70

    I always wonder what sort of meeting results in such a product: “Let’s make an PC ISA card containing a game console, and let’s make sure it can’t use the PC’s monitor!”

    • @isilder
      @isilder 3 роки тому +8

      Issues with expense of adding the extra feature .. they should have made it a GPU for the pc.. replace the vga card with this...

    • @michelvanbriemen3459
      @michelvanbriemen3459 3 роки тому +4

      It might've been a technical exercise to condense the PC-FX to a single board that they decided to throw onto the market for fun

    • @JeffreyPiatt
      @JeffreyPiatt Рік тому +1

      @@michelvanbriemen3459 Japan has always been game console adverse hence the NES being marketed there as the Family Computer and had a Basic module with keyboard. So they probably decided they might sell more games if they sold a space saving card that put the video game system on a card you put in a PC.

  • @ctackett51
    @ctackett51 4 роки тому +258

    The dino riding the dragonfly needs to be a t-shirt!

    • @macelius
      @macelius 4 роки тому +1

      Would make a great LGR shirt!

    • @SomeGuy_GRM
      @SomeGuy_GRM 4 роки тому +3

      I'll get right on it. Computer animation peaked when dragonfly met dinosaur.

    • @idipped2521
      @idipped2521 3 роки тому

      @@SomeGuy_GRM if you made that shirt i might actually buy

  • @seanwieland9763
    @seanwieland9763 4 роки тому +126

    “Crippling addiction to Yahoo Auctions Japan - Send Help!” GLOL 🤣😂

    • @robsku1
      @robsku1 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I laughed at it too - had to skip backwards and play it again. Like four times :D

    • @jonavene12
      @jonavene12 8 місяців тому +2

      3:22

  • @michaelzeoli8014
    @michaelzeoli8014 4 роки тому +257

    “With a controller dangling out the back like some crt fetish plug” LGR

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 4 роки тому +11

      It's like the card is tentacle'd to your PC.

    • @StreborKram
      @StreborKram 4 роки тому +8

      I had a bet with myself how quickly this would be quoted ... number 3. Bravo

    • @mushroomsamba82
      @mushroomsamba82 4 роки тому +13

      Knowing the PC-FX game library it's not that far fetched 😂

    • @HunterTinsley
      @HunterTinsley 4 роки тому +9

      DONGLE

    • @RubyRoks
      @RubyRoks 4 роки тому +2

      I was gonna comment a related subreddit, but i'm not convinced Clint's userbase is primarilly 18+

  • @AgsmaJustAgsma
    @AgsmaJustAgsma 4 роки тому +83

    We need an HD remaster of _A Dragonfly_ immediately.

  • @obsoletegeek
    @obsoletegeek 4 роки тому +260

    A graphics chip designed by Kubota. Imagine a modern graphics card being designed by Caterpillar.

    • @draketungsten74
      @draketungsten74 4 роки тому +46

      Closest thing I can think of are the Caterpillar branded smartphones, though they contracted out to have them made.

    • @digitalrailroader
      @digitalrailroader 4 роки тому +2

      @@draketungsten74 darn, you beat me to it!

    • @ozzyp97
      @ozzyp97 4 роки тому +36

      That's pretty much what Samsung does today, they produce construction equipment and even combat vehicles such as the K9 Thunder howitzer.

    • @digitalrailroader
      @digitalrailroader 4 роки тому +34

      @@ozzyp97 that’s pretty much every South Korean company’s MO; diversify into as many industries as you can: case in point is Daewoo; they make everything from construction equipment, to ocean going ships, to cars (that last one really didn’t work out here in the US)

    • @shrimp_on_internet
      @shrimp_on_internet 4 роки тому +7

      Imageine a graphics chipset designed by an actual monarch caterpillar.
      *edit: spelling and emphasis on the caterpillar

  • @ZetZatar
    @ZetZatar 4 роки тому +40

    I never thought today would be the day I saw a T-Rex riding a Dragonfly...

    • @nbHawkeye
      @nbHawkeye 4 роки тому +3

      Neither did I but I'm so glad I did. This had a certain magic to it.

    • @TimLeeSongs
      @TimLeeSongs 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I had it in my calendar for a week on Tuesday 😆

  • @The_Mister_E
    @The_Mister_E 4 роки тому +87

    A Dragonfly
    "You crushed my flower, dinosaur. I'm gonna lead you off a canyon, somehow become five times my normal size, catch you on my back mid fall, and introduce you to my family."

    • @nomanland645
      @nomanland645 4 роки тому +11

      Would of been made perfect, if they had the TRex wave farewell to the Dragon flies as they fluttered away.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому +4

      Did the Dragonfly grow or the Dinosaur shrink ? We will never know.

    • @LordZero666
      @LordZero666 4 роки тому +4

      @@MrDuncl I feel like that was the mother butterfly or something

  • @vectorprime4387
    @vectorprime4387 4 роки тому +4

    9:15
    For anyone wondering, "RUNボタンを押してください" means "Please press the run button,"
    while "テレビでゲームをお楽しみ下さい" means "Please enjoy the game on your TV."
    Thanks for covering this old piece of tech LGR, I had no idea that a version of the PC-FX like this even existed. As a translator I've always been fascinated by old consoles like the PC Engine and FX that have had a whole library of games never brought over to the English speaking market. Hopefully, one of these days in the future after I finish my translation project for the PC Engine game Galaxy Fraulein Yuna, I'd eventually like to get around to translating Galaxy Fraulein Yuna FX for this console. Hopefully, sometime in the future, more and more translators will begin to look into consoles like this instead of primarily focusing on the Famicom and Super Famicom all the time.

  • @SiriusArc7
    @SiriusArc7 4 роки тому +33

    Oh my, you've got a rare masterpiece! I'm talking about the CD with pink jacket, the 3dcgs were created by team DoGA, a former group of 3dcg creating company DoGA(doga.co.jp). They were just a hobby computer club of Kyoto University and Osaka University but they had united and decided to start up a new company.

  • @mustangmandal
    @mustangmandal 4 роки тому +1

    One thing I was not expecting to see in the video was the kubota logo on that aurora chip! Learned something new about the tractor and equipment manufacturer today so thanks!

  • @Yet_AGOTI-2
    @Yet_AGOTI-2 4 роки тому +14

    We NEED a raw upload of that animation. It's too beautiful to leave hidden on a disc and seen only through a CRT on a camera. Its full glory must be seen.

    • @andrewfaraday8918
      @andrewfaraday8918 3 роки тому +1

      What animation would that be?

    • @SomnusLucisCaelum
      @SomnusLucisCaelum 2 роки тому

      Well at least one of these you can see here
      ua-cam.com/video/5wbz3YdK8vg/v-deo.html
      They used the same opening for Zenki FX from the anime lol

  • @jonasgrill1155
    @jonasgrill1155 3 роки тому +4

    Is it just me or does anyone else love the PC-FX boot animation? Like, it feels really satisfying.

  • @CoolWave720
    @CoolWave720 4 роки тому +45

    That Dragonfly and T-Rex demo was way better than that live action Mulan movie

    • @kanna-san.
      @kanna-san. 4 роки тому

      Less people probably died too

  • @asmariamoon
    @asmariamoon 4 роки тому +39

    That dragonfly animation is such a work of art, I expected it to end with Fin instead of End.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 2 роки тому +1

      hey it's punk rock sailor moon dude🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @BadAnimeGroup
    @BadAnimeGroup 4 роки тому +18

    Of the things I'd reasonably expect to see on LGR, it wouldn't include Satoshi Urushihara art. Granted, only a few moments' worth, but what a pleasant surprise!
    Great video as usual.

  • @steveng7702
    @steveng7702 2 місяці тому +1

    With watching all your most recent videos, while eating cooking and drinking milk(of course!!!😊) now it's time to watch some of the older content. Thank you, LGR, for years for entertainment. I always look forward to your next upload!!! Thanks again !!

  • @Zayllyaz
    @Zayllyaz 4 роки тому +9

    Clint's reaction of unadulterated joy at 25:19 is why I watch every one of his videos.

  • @egustafson
    @egustafson 4 роки тому +12

    "Yeah, this things renders 3d polygonal graphics on top of the motion jpeg fmve and 2d sprite work of the original pcfx console" wow... I understood every word of that... I've watched a lot of lgr

  • @MarcosCodas
    @MarcosCodas 4 роки тому +45

    The fact that they went through the trouble of making this thing and then they didn't bother to convert the signal to digital so that users could at least use the same monitor is baffling. Also, as a member of a half-japanese household, it makes perfect sense.

    • @sixdfx
      @sixdfx 4 роки тому +3

      vga is not even digital

    • @MarcosCodas
      @MarcosCodas 4 роки тому +2

      @@sixdfx You're right! They could have done it without a DAC!

    • @TurnerXei
      @TurnerXei 4 роки тому +4

      @@djosearth3618 Lotta old video cards had VGA passthrough, I was surprised they didn't do that here

    • @Rikorage
      @Rikorage 3 роки тому +1

      I think at the time most TV CRTs had better fidelity than PC monitors, so that could be one reason. Either that, or they didn't want the 224p of the animations to look worse on a higher resolution PC display.
      I know I said two things that sound contradictory... Yes

    • @robsku1
      @robsku1 3 роки тому +1

      @@Rikorage Nope, at the time this card was made most TV CRTs had much worse fidelity - you could run stuff at 1024x768 even on 15" monitors (even on some 14" monitors, but software with non-adjustable font and image sizes it could get a bit hard to make out the details), but with mos TV's you could get 800x600 at best and often only 640x480 and even then it would not be the crisp graphics - the games often looked better to me on consoles running on TV screens when I was younger but it was just a kind of "smoothing effect" that actually reduced the sharpness of the image that made them seem better. The same thing made 80-column character display on TV look messy and pretty much forced a choice between a TV with 40-column text or an actual computer monitor - that or using 4-pixels wide font which leaves zero cap between many characters and not enough detail for the characters to look good. Even in the 2000's I could not get a crisp output on CRT TV's that had no VGA (nor HDMI/DisplayPort/DVI/etc...) and you had to use S-video or composite output of video card to get the thing to show up on TV - I wanted to run terminal with IRC-client (irssi) on TV back then but gave up the idea because even at ridiculously low "character resolution" (columns x rows) it still looked messy and 40x25 was not enough for my needs. But I digress...
      244p animation on PC monitor would not have looked like it had less fidelity, but it *would* look more pixelated because of greater fidelity and sharpness; which actually does translate to the animation looking *smoother* and thus better on CRT TV but the reason is the opposite of what you said in the first sentence - but as you said yourself, you wrote two things that sound contradictory, so... I just wanted to clarify this thing :D
      Afterthought: I recall actually thinking in the 90's that it would be cool to run games on TV because the monitors most had at the time were 14" or 15" "big" and TV's were often larger, which could give you larger image and you could play without being right in front of the display - which would have been better in many cases despite the lower resolution and sharpness. Also with games often being lower resolution anyway, often 320x240, the less sharp graphics on TV screen would have looked smoother without even losing graphical details.
      Then the 3D accelerators came which could smooth any pixelated graphics without losing ability to show razor sharp details (example being 1st person shooters with smooooth texturing but sharp edges) and CRT TV's became simply worse in all ways, but we weren't quite there yet at the time so that's a whole different topic ;)
      In the end the real contradiction here is that sometimes the technically worse could be aesthetically better :)

  • @jamescarrington6504
    @jamescarrington6504 2 місяці тому +1

    My eyes were wide open the whole video. Thank you LGR for providing all this relevant information on the NEC PC FX computer graphics System. It really is making me appreciate how far computer graphics technology has come over the last three decades. You are bringing your wealth of knowledge to us

  • @SuperNicktendo
    @SuperNicktendo 4 роки тому +92

    LGR: apparently this game is worth $1000 for some reason but whatever
    Game collectors: first of all how dare you.
    This is such a crazy piece of hardware. It’s crazy to think that having an inexpensive console quality controller solution on your pc is a relatively new concept. The sidewinder came close but most had to settle for the gravis pad .

    • @Ametisti
      @Ametisti 4 роки тому

      I ended up getting a heap of old Sidewinder stuff over the past few years and absolutely love all of them. Not had the luck to get an original Gravis controller though, only the Xterminator Digital, which is awesome, if a bit glitchy.

    • @moomah5929
      @moomah5929 4 роки тому

      @@Ametisti I only got the Sidewinder Freestyle Pro pad that has build in motion controls. While the motion controls seem to work surprisingly well, the D-Pad is just horrible. Also got a Logitech WingMan Precision which seems far better (only gave it short test under DOS 6.22) but under Windows 98 SE I'm actually using a 8BitDo M30 which works even though it's a modern device. Of cause only because my Retro PC (Pentium 233 MMX) has one of the first ATX motherboards and comes with two USB ports.

    • @JackBandicootsBunker
      @JackBandicootsBunker 4 роки тому

      @@moomah5929 The Logitech WingMan Precision and its successors, the F310 and F710 have some of the worst D-Pads I’ve ever used. Makes the 360 controller’s D-Pad look better in comparison.

    • @moomah5929
      @moomah5929 4 роки тому

      @@JackBandicootsBunker While this might be true, the Freestyle Pro's is 100 time worse. More or less unuseable. There is a reason why I'm using the M30 instead of the WingMan. xD

    • @killerbee2562
      @killerbee2562 4 роки тому

      @@Ametisti The Gravis gamepad pro was pretty good thought.

  • @FeylordTAEKE
    @FeylordTAEKE 4 роки тому +10

    Clint's jubilation during the dragonflies is so genuine. What a great vid dude, you're wonderful!

  • @Raguleader
    @Raguleader 4 роки тому +78

    The "PC gaming fetish plug" line got a loud guffaw out of me. Didn't see that joke coming lol

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer 4 роки тому +11

    I get the distinct impression that when I move somewhere with space to spare, I'm going to end up building several PCs of various vintage eras just to soak in the nostalgia.

  • @RussellB
    @RussellB 4 роки тому +8

    Langrisser is a long running series that is really similar to Fire Emblem. There was one english release for a loooong time only on the Genesis and they renamed it "Warsong". One of my favorite games

  • @jsa274
    @jsa274 3 роки тому +4

    I like the contemporary “wood” veneer on your tower. I had a CRT television with the same “wood” finish in 1992.

  • @Laserdreamz
    @Laserdreamz 4 роки тому +56

    oh man those CGI demonstrations were glorious. This truly is rare to see. I'm guessing they planned a 3D acceleration add on for PC-FX there's those screenshots of a 3D Star Soldier floating about.

    • @hicknopunk
      @hicknopunk 4 роки тому +4

      There is a video expansion card port, the 3D chip on this dev card is the same 3D chip.

    • @sandycheeks7865
      @sandycheeks7865 4 роки тому +4

      that super star soldier demo (which looked like wing war type flat polygons) was running on the alternative 'iron man' hardware which was a parallel successor to the PC-Engine project that got canned in favour of this white elephant. Total missed opportunity, but nothing to do with the PC-FX

    • @Laserdreamz
      @Laserdreamz 4 роки тому +3

      @@sandycheeks7865 intersting, thanks. I always thought the Iron-man hardware was the basis for PC-FX. Recall seeing stories of its "morphing" of 2d images capability heh.

  • @Thenixedreport
    @Thenixedreport 4 роки тому +7

    It's incredible what these classic consoles are capable of, especially in the form of an expansion card. If only companies would quit releasing newer consoles every so often and just push the existing ones to their max.

  • @maddire2585
    @maddire2585 4 роки тому +24

    Well i didn’t expect to be watching a T-Rex gloriously fly on the back of a mid 1990 rendered dragonfly 😂

  • @ouch1011
    @ouch1011 8 місяців тому

    Coming back years later, and that dragonfly video is still the greatest thing ever seen on UA-cam, maybe the greatest thing ever seen anywhere.

  • @JosephArata
    @JosephArata 4 роки тому +47

    Holy shit, he's got a copy of the original NEC Langrisser II game LOL.

    • @abadenoughdude300
      @abadenoughdude300 4 роки тому +2

      Respecc

    • @pigsareit
      @pigsareit 4 роки тому +2

      I'm seeing them on eBay for like $20? What makes it special?

  • @JHMBB2
    @JHMBB2 4 роки тому +1

    That keyboard though. I can't get over it. As a diehard IBM thinkpad user...that'd just be perfect to own.

  • @dogebad
    @dogebad 4 роки тому +93

    it is impossible to discuss the PC-FX without at least briefly mentioning the porn

    • @DimT670
      @DimT670 4 роки тому +18

      I mean literally 3 out of 4 games had scandily clad women on the cover (and yea while i know langrisser is unfortunately just like that it counts)

    • @hicknopunk
      @hicknopunk 4 роки тому +14

      Briefly?? The whole video should be about it.

    • @inendlesspain4724
      @inendlesspain4724 4 роки тому +31

      I mean, it's kind of part of the reason it failed; back in the 90s video games, especially console games, were still seen as kid's toys even in Japan, and while porn games thrived in the PC scene since messing around with PCs was a niche thing to begin with, nobody was ready to buy on the idea of a console "for adults" the way the idea was presented with the PC-FX.
      I mean, beyond all the jokes and memes the truth is that the general japanese populance looks down on otakus and otaku media in general much like most people in the west. Now look at something like Chip-chan and tell me how marketable you think that is for a console game.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому +9

      @@inendlesspain4724 At launch I was actually put off buying a PS2 due to the fact that almost every launch title seemed to involve shooting cops, and breaking the law in other ways. i suppose that is considered to be good clean Kiddie's fun.

    • @inendlesspain4724
      @inendlesspain4724 4 роки тому +15

      ​@@MrDuncl Well, you know, the PS2 came out during the early 2000s, where games were striving to be more mature, but in a more "dark and serious" kind of way, you know, something more marketable for mainstream audiences than anime porn.

  • @alexanderglassgames4170
    @alexanderglassgames4170 3 роки тому +14

    25:19 One of the best LGR moments ever begins...

  • @SiincereARC
    @SiincereARC 4 роки тому +7

    Man, I loooooooooovvvvvvvveeeeeeeee when you go over console-comouter related stuff (especially sega related). Keep it coming. Also, your videos + jazz intros = pure gold!

  • @GldRush98
    @GldRush98 4 роки тому +9

    Clint just losing it at the T-Rex animation was fantastic. Not sure I've ever heard him crack up that much at something that wasn't a fart joke 😂

  • @plausocks
    @plausocks 4 роки тому +47

    TIL kubota is another one of those japanese companies that just makes everything... and here i thought they just made heavy machinery

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 4 роки тому +5

      I think of them making garden sized tractors. Any Japanese heavy machinery we see here in the UK is from Hitachi.

    • @CupoChinoMusic
      @CupoChinoMusic 4 роки тому +1

      i only knew them making one of those massive tractors lol

    • @NopWorks
      @NopWorks 4 роки тому

      @@CupoChinoMusic Yeah. I was like "what is that tractor company doing here" lol

  • @lumehaash8926
    @lumehaash8926 3 роки тому +9

    Langrisser! Oh that is cool. The original aesthetic is so good. It exists for the Switch (maybe Steam) now, with translation
    This is really a fascinating device honestly. Thank you a lot for making us discover all kind of weird and lovely things like this

  • @davelister6564
    @davelister6564 4 роки тому +31

    13:05
    “I’m not here to review the games.”
    Wow, that is lazy.

  • @melskunk
    @melskunk 4 роки тому

    It says a lot that I decided to look up PC-fxga after watching this and your video is already the first video return on that search

  • @starlightwitch12
    @starlightwitch12 4 роки тому +10

    Ahh, Choujin Haiki Zeroigar. I remember playing that game. That one has an English Translation released back in 2015 and that one made me play it.

    • @johnbrandwood6568
      @johnbrandwood6568 4 роки тому +12

      I hope that you enjoyed the translation ... I did the hacking/programming for it, and using my PC-FXGA DOS/V. :-) The real fun of the PC-FXGA is that it was/is a full available-to-the-public console homebrew development system, just like Sony's Net Yaroze. And "yes", you do need a Japanese version of Win95 (or Win 3.1) to run some of graphics tools in the GMAKER developer kit. We needed to use those tools to compress the English subtitle video that we added to Zeroigar's FMV cutscenes.

    • @TheVHSReviver
      @TheVHSReviver 4 роки тому +3

      @@johnbrandwood6568 Thank you and the others involved for taking the time and effort to help more people enjoy more games. It is greatly appreciated.

  • @Borednerds
    @Borednerds 2 роки тому +1

    Oh wow, I thought 3DO Blaster was the only "bring your console to PC" device of its kind. Learn something new every day.........

  • @reptilez13
    @reptilez13 4 роки тому +7

    Those games are worth so much... They are super awesome too! I love this era and Japanese games in particular. I remember as a kid wanting to learn Japanese just to play games early or that didn't come out in NA lol. Great vid as usual man!!!

  • @Bertolf100
    @Bertolf100 2 роки тому

    I just got the PC-98 version of this card, didn't see a backup.ini file on the floppy so seeing the format in this video helped immensely. I probably missed something in the instructions but I wasn't able to save until I manually created the file. Thanks!

  • @andresbravo2003
    @andresbravo2003 4 роки тому +10

    NEC might need to bring back PC-FX in 2020... we’ve been waiting for more. SO MUCH ANIME!!!

    • @JeffreyPiatt
      @JeffreyPiatt 4 роки тому +5

      They did put out a Turbographx 16 mini in the US. That system was the PC Engine .

  • @BollingHolt
    @BollingHolt 4 роки тому +40

    Oh, man. I can hear the AVGN having a meltdown during the setup process of that LOL.

  • @thegap0
    @thegap0 4 роки тому +7

    The only "game reviewer" channel where you'll hear 13:05 and NOT be disappointed

  • @BonkedByAScout
    @BonkedByAScout 3 роки тому

    I have seen this video at least 8 times because UA-cam keeps recommending it. Worth it for that dragonfly.

  • @JB2X-Z
    @JB2X-Z 4 роки тому +5

    Geez
    The best part about that Dragonfly animation is that it reminds me so much of an0nymooose's style

  • @cabbusses
    @cabbusses 4 роки тому

    I'm probably one of the few commenters here who actually has a PC-FX. I was always curious about th FXGA. Nice video!

  • @dariru27
    @dariru27 4 роки тому +6

    oh man! zenki was my childhood, I watched that everytime when i got home from school

  • @OneAngryDeacon
    @OneAngryDeacon 4 роки тому +1

    bro, i've been subscribed for the better part of a decade -- this is one of the best LGR videos ever

  • @hicknopunk
    @hicknopunk 4 роки тому +8

    I have 2 PC-FX, over half the library. Great games!

  • @DatBeastard
    @DatBeastard 4 роки тому +3

    Der Langrisser FX seems to be an upgraded version of Der Langrisser for the Super Famicom, which in itself is a remake of Langrisser II for the Mega Drive. The FX version looks to have been ported over to the PS1 and Sega Saturn, with the Saturn version being titled "Dramatic Edition" for some reason. Every version of Langrisser II was Japanese only until the PS4, Switch and PC versions from 2019/2020. Langrisser I did originally make it overseas as Warsong for Genesis, though. Worth a look for TRPG fans if you don't mind old-school gameplay.

  • @bluebearbank247
    @bluebearbank247 4 роки тому +4

    Wow, MIJ treasure right there. I never ever expected to see Hudson and Kubota logos together. Come on, Kubota is known as Tractor manufacture, man.

  • @grenmoyo3968
    @grenmoyo3968 Рік тому +1

    old NEC tech from the 80s and 90s is still to date my favorite little gems of Tech history

  • @jong2359
    @jong2359 4 роки тому +6

    3:17 - Asking an addict for help with your addiction is sure to produce some wonderful warehouse filling results.

  • @shaider1982
    @shaider1982 3 роки тому +2

    Zenki was quite popular in my country during the 1990's. I did not know that it had its own game. Thanks for sharing👍

  • @dragiceryudo5745
    @dragiceryudo5745 4 роки тому +4

    Odd ware is always a great look at tech I wouldn’t have imagined otherwise. That T-Rex was just amazing. Thank you for sharing another great look into the could have been of yesteryear.

  • @kenny8179
    @kenny8179 2 роки тому

    I have been following this channel for a hot minute. Love the OG tech for the OG techi. And dude your voice is smooth so you in the right spot. But I was there with ya when that dragonfly video cam on.
    It was lit.

  • @0zzm0dious
    @0zzm0dious 4 роки тому +4

    I love the look of older PCBs. That almost pearlescent shimmer they all had was just gorgeous. A well made card was almost a work of art to look at with no bulky cooler hiding everything. Now? Everything is just black...

  • @proxythe1337
    @proxythe1337 4 роки тому +9

    I wonder if you could run this and the 3DO Blaster in the same PC. It would have been cool to have all your consoles integrated into your PC.

  • @cruuump
    @cruuump 4 роки тому +31

    if you rip that dragonfly clip and post it by itself - that shit will go viral. So amazing!

    • @brandonporter8509
      @brandonporter8509 4 роки тому +6

      Dragonfly dinosaur needs to become a star in vaporwave videos

    • @techops7498
      @techops7498 4 роки тому

      Its on UA-cam.

  • @nobuyukinyuu
    @nobuyukinyuu 4 роки тому +1

    Great episode. Didn't think I'd ever see any DOS/V or NEC stuff on LGR.
    And a shout-out to Flux! I had no idea anyone remembered that game. First commercial project I ever got a credit in :)

  • @edwest2263
    @edwest2263 4 роки тому +7

    Langrisser is awesome. You should try the English ROM for Langrisser 2 on the Genesis. One of the best games of that generation.

  • @kepler_iii9373
    @kepler_iii9373 3 роки тому +1

    Mildly interesting trivia: The futuristic building in the background on the left at 15:57 actually exists and is the NEC headquarters in Minato, Tokyo.

  • @protoman111
    @protoman111 4 роки тому +11

    The Dragonfly animation was oddly nostalgic to me, but I don't know why.

    • @cs188creations
      @cs188creations 4 роки тому

      It reminded me of the early 90's "Mind's Eye" animation series.

  • @dorpth
    @dorpth 4 роки тому +1

    1:27 Wood grain paneling AND beige??!! It's the ultimate fusion of 70s and 80s electronics!

  • @paulnguzman
    @paulnguzman 4 роки тому +5

    Glad to see the Nakamichi drive is working!

  • @ohioplayer-bl9em
    @ohioplayer-bl9em 2 роки тому

    Its actually a great idea NEC is a pretty advanced company. We have an NEC phone system that I manage at work. The price was half that of the competition. Still costly but worth it. The hardware is great and out of 500 phones we have only had 1 go bad while in use and one that was DOA.

  • @atrocity3010
    @atrocity3010 4 роки тому +17

    I also have a crippling addiction to Yahoo Auctions so I know that feel. It's tough these days now that shipping from Japan costs an arm and a leg.
    Edit: Also just wanted to express my appreciation for the quality content you've put out over the years. Thanks

  • @legacyoftheancientsC64c
    @legacyoftheancientsC64c 4 роки тому +2

    That short weird period of pre PS1/Saturn 3D graphics where the 32X, 3DO and Atari Jaguar where the kings of polygons is very nostalgic to me for some reason. Still remember coming across the Atari Jaguar in a store called Incredible Universe and falling for the "64 bit" lies. I actually have very fond memories of Cybermorph, Iron Soldier, Tempest 2000 and AvP which to this day is one of the scariest games I've ever played. I also remember getting the CD addon and playing the Tempest 2000 music cd that came with it nonstop. Then I got an N64 and the Jaguar disappeared into a closet somewhere, only to reemerge at the beginning of this year when my mother found it in a box along with my old Saturn and Dreamcast and a bunch of games one of which was a complete copy Panzer Dragoon Saga with even the black paper cd sleeves. I've since used the sale of that to fund both an Xbox Series X and a PS5.

  • @woodenotaku
    @woodenotaku 4 роки тому +4

    About that CD changer: each disc being its own drive is not a hardware limitation.
    The NEC-branded changers specifically address this in their manuals as do some of the Pioneer ones. You need support for something called Multiple SCSI Logical Unit Numbers or LUN.
    Later versions of OS/2 have this built-in as do NT-based Windows (btw NEC has a special Win95 driver to support single drive mode).
    If you search online for "scsi lun cd changer" you can find plenty of posts from open source folks complaining about all this. This all also applies to IDE-based CD changers too.

    • @piwex69
      @piwex69 4 роки тому

      I understand Clint expected the device to combine all 5 cds into one ... volume? With only one loaded and active cd at a time, this seems to be expecting too much. If it had 5 heads and independent spindles...than maybe, but I am sure it is so much cheaper to connect 5 cd-rom devices to one scsi bus instead...

    • @eDoc2020
      @eDoc2020 4 роки тому +1

      @@piwex69 I think Clint expected the device to act as one drive but where you can switch discs by just pressing a button as opposed to going through the manual process of disc switching and dealing with cases.

  • @rolandexclusive6306
    @rolandexclusive6306 4 роки тому

    still got my 1979 NEC CRT television. Still looks and works as if brand new :))

  • @RolloTonéBrownTown
    @RolloTonéBrownTown 4 роки тому +8

    When you think the dragonfly is a jerk for luring t tex but then he's actually a total bro and saves Rex when he attains mega butterfly mode

  • @desox2359
    @desox2359 4 роки тому +1

    Oh god, that PCB looks like a godsend. Even the reflection, how neat is that.

  • @TheAshuri89
    @TheAshuri89 4 роки тому +18

    "Even more FMV, man! Like seriously!"
    That's what you get for selecting "Anime Mode" hahaha

  • @Floating.Point.
    @Floating.Point. 4 роки тому

    Yo Clint, I just wanted to thank you for all this time you've been uploading in 4K. It really sets a difference and I can just think about a couple of other channels I'm subbed to that do 4K uploads. I'm glad I decided to subscribe since those Sims 3 days.