Presocratics Part 1: Early Greek Philosophy

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  • @samuelbehrendt6291
    @samuelbehrendt6291 Рік тому +76

    Professor Dave's content is like a box of chocolates, "You never know what you're gonna get!" I love the broad spectrum of topics that you cover! ❤

    • @dross4207
      @dross4207 Рік тому +5

      That’s kind of a bad analogy, because on Prof Dave you never get one of those weird chocolate covered jelly things that no one likes.

    • @samuelbehrendt6291
      @samuelbehrendt6291 Рік тому

      @@dross4207 lmao true true

    • @seanh4841
      @seanh4841 Рік тому

      Me too, I love the variety of subjects, some I don't understand well, however I find them interesting

  • @sideeggunnecessary
    @sideeggunnecessary Рік тому +6

    When neo visited the oracle in the mateix the latin for "know thyself" was inscribed on a board above the doorway

    • @irrelevant_noob
      @irrelevant_noob Рік тому +2

      Probably because more people would be able to read Latin than they would Greek. ;-)

  • @TupacMakaveli1996
    @TupacMakaveli1996 7 місяців тому +3

    Crazy progress, from myth to reason, from religion to philosophy

  • @seclilc
    @seclilc Рік тому +21

    Oh this is cool! I feel so ignorant I didn’t realize Socrates wasn’t the first Greek philosopher

    • @DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes
      @DemeterTelphousia-Erinyes Рік тому +2

      Don’t feel that way! I’ve read a fair bit about philosophy and still can’t remember it! ❤

  • @thomasprendergast6315
    @thomasprendergast6315 Рік тому +4

    Prof, you da best. So simply broken down, so easy to digest for us ADHD kinda people.
    Thanks!

  • @skepticalCoder
    @skepticalCoder Рік тому +2

    Just added to my watch later list. Can't wait to see this one!

  • @health_is_wealth333
    @health_is_wealth333 Рік тому +2

    Well,I can understand why the old guys were so bent on water being the end all be all. Water is needed for our bodies to perform metabolic functions. Aqueous solution. So the old guys had good ideas based on what information they had! They were brave enough to speak up with new theories! I understand how they came to their conclusions based on their observations at that time. I just finished Gen Chem, Advanced Chem, organic chem 1 and 2! My brain is mush 😂 thanks for your videos they really helped, I posted one as a reference for a class discussion, and my professor loved it! Thank you for using your brain to be a superhero and not a villain! ❤

  • @ericmishima
    @ericmishima Рік тому +5

    Thanks! Please teach me more philosophy.

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  Рік тому +9

      This will be a long series!

    • @ericmishima
      @ericmishima Рік тому

      ​@@ProfessorDaveExplains I'm having trouble with sentence one. But I'll keep trying.

  • @palaksanwal4258
    @palaksanwal4258 8 місяців тому

    He literally knows everything ❤

  • @manikandan-ve6dm
    @manikandan-ve6dm Рік тому

    Just started physics it was really helpful for a jee aspirany

  • @reysolo3672
    @reysolo3672 Рік тому +1

    THALES He is often referred to as the Father of Science. Thales is recognized for breaking from the use of mythology to explain the world and the universe, instead explaining natural objects and phenomena by offering naturalistic theories and hypotheses. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1😍😍😍😍😍😍😍

    • @mikotagayuna8494
      @mikotagayuna8494 Рік тому

      That is quite a stretch as he predated the scientific method by nearly a thousand years.

  • @journey578
    @journey578 Рік тому +1

    Amazing song choice at the end Dave !

  • @karlosfandango4622
    @karlosfandango4622 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for you videos, I;ve only watched this one (twice) so far but will surely watch more, and hopefully fulfil my ambition to get more than 3 answers correct on University Challenge

  • @vance5466
    @vance5466 4 місяці тому

    thank you for not clouding anything up and keeping things real.

    • @b_f_d_d
      @b_f_d_d 4 місяці тому

      for real

  • @jawaria3610
    @jawaria3610 2 місяці тому

    Greeks were the founders of science and philosophy.
    In middle ages Muslim scientists and philosophers did major contributions which led to the European revolution

  • @mayusolanki3121
    @mayusolanki3121 Рік тому +1

    If possible then try to launch your engineering series soon, we would love to learn engineering through your videos.

  • @jigsaw2253
    @jigsaw2253 Рік тому +1

    Thanks

  • @Kinetic-Energy117
    @Kinetic-Energy117 Рік тому +3

    Curious why you started at Greece..African Egyptians were ahead of Greek thought by thousands of years
    Every Greek philosopher who lived made it a pilgrimage to go to Egypt to honor their source of religion & philosophy..
    I'll wait for your answer, as I am a subscriber & attain & subscription monthly

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  Рік тому +6

      I talked about Egypt in an earlier tutorial.

    • @vibhutisrivastava2789
      @vibhutisrivastava2789 Рік тому

      Really?

    • @helmaschine1885
      @helmaschine1885 Рік тому

      Early philosophical thought: ua-cam.com/video/fYQwUTjZd2M/v-deo.html

    • @Kinetic-Energy117
      @Kinetic-Energy117 Рік тому

      ​@Rusty Shackleford Sumer is a bible story. If Sumer was so great, where are their great megalithic structures? Sumer has been certified by local government, who are all Abraham bumpers, who doesn't exist in the archeological records & Diop's work shows Sumer was staged by Schmidt over 70 years ago
      Brain surgery & birth control-Ed Smith pap
      Mathematics & geometry-Moscow pap
      364 & 1/4th calender in 4000bc, Sumer couldn't produce that ever
      I can keep going...
      Sumer is only a bible story in Iraq.
      Egypt did it 1st!" In my, Professor Mark Burnell of Cornell University voice

    • @wordcel
      @wordcel Рік тому

      Egyptians were not African in the racial sense of the word (i.e. Sub-Saharan).

  • @jeffbarnard3050
    @jeffbarnard3050 Рік тому +1

    I love Philosophy! Love is my Philosophy.

  • @pauldow1648
    @pauldow1648 6 місяців тому

    Thank you

  • @justinhoward6384
    @justinhoward6384 Рік тому

    Oh yes more philosophy please

  • @jdm5570
    @jdm5570 Рік тому

    Thanks Dave!

  • @amitsinghbhadoriya6318
    @amitsinghbhadoriya6318 Рік тому +2

    Useful

  • @nirmalmishra6404
    @nirmalmishra6404 Рік тому +1

    Sometimes you're a badass sometimes Dick, you're none other but professor David.

  • @Apupv
    @Apupv Рік тому

    First!!! Always wanted to know more about Early Greek Philosophy!

  • @HystericalSej
    @HystericalSej Рік тому +1

    8:46

  • @AstroRamiEmad
    @AstroRamiEmad Рік тому +1

    I love Thales, but 4000 years before Thales, ancient Syrians and Iraqis wrote books and poems about the birth of all Universe from Water. As well as the birth of order from chios!

    • @KaterinaStamatelos
      @KaterinaStamatelos 10 місяців тому

      I hope you meant CHAOS, because Chios is a...Greek island. LOL

  • @joet.6019
    @joet.6019 Рік тому +10

    Dave + philosophy = my dream
    PS I want another debate! I have rewatched them all ten times

  • @irish_deconstruction
    @irish_deconstruction Рік тому

    Loving this so far!👍

  • @Rico-Suave_
    @Rico-Suave_ Рік тому

    Watched all of it 8:35

  • @_fedmar_
    @_fedmar_ Рік тому +2

    Part 4 of asking you to react to the Troll Physics videos. C'mon, it would be great for April 1st...

  • @OMBReviews
    @OMBReviews 2 місяці тому +1

    Just say BC and AD. The birth of Christ is still the focal point of which is which

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  2 місяці тому +1

      Except no it isn't, since historians don't care about fictional mythological characters.

    • @lifeonahighway9700
      @lifeonahighway9700 2 місяці тому

      @@ProfessorDaveExplains you saying He’s a fictitious character shows your ignorance when it comes to historical facts

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  2 місяці тому +1

      Religious mythology ≠ historical facts. Sorry.

    • @killahb5243
      @killahb5243 25 днів тому

      @@ProfessorDaveExplainssad.

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  25 днів тому

      @@killahb5243 Is it though?

  • @gillesdeleuze6083
    @gillesdeleuze6083 Рік тому

    Valeu professor!

  • @EDDIELANE
    @EDDIELANE Рік тому

    I have a Classics 270 midterm tomorrow

  • @lostfan5054
    @lostfan5054 Рік тому

    YESSSSS PROF DAVE

  • @theVisibleburner
    @theVisibleburner Рік тому

    Yes

  • @soyoltoi
    @soyoltoi Рік тому

    it's thee-rum, not "theh-rum"!
    appreciate your tutorials and debunks!!

  • @odysseusrex5908
    @odysseusrex5908 Рік тому

    Very, very interesting. I knew that Thales had proposed water as being the fundamental substance, but I don't recall ever reading or being told that he reached that conclusion by contemplating the difference between living and nonliving things. Is that a fairly recent discovery? How sure is it that that was his thinking?

    • @mikotagayuna8494
      @mikotagayuna8494 Рік тому +4

      Much of his theories were transmitted through oral tradition by his students much like Plato and Aristotle did with Socrates.

  • @ranbummerz729
    @ranbummerz729 Рік тому

    A true Renaissance man

  • @newcitychurch3829
    @newcitychurch3829 2 місяці тому

    NM 2xs❤

  • @Ratciclefan
    @Ratciclefan Рік тому +3

    "they might have killed the discoverer of irrational numbers" is fun even if not real 😂

  • @TheMilitantMazdakite
    @TheMilitantMazdakite Рік тому +1

    Can you make a historical anylisis of the Bible's historical claims?

    • @mikotagayuna8494
      @mikotagayuna8494 Рік тому +3

      There is no debate about this. The Bible has great historical significance but does not purport to present historical fact. No serious religion takes the Bible as literal truth except for fundamentalists and cults.

    • @FlatEarthKiller
      @FlatEarthKiller Рік тому

      No he won’t. He avoids religion ask much as he can, unless hes dunking on Kent Hovind level religious type of charlatan.

    • @TheMilitantMazdakite
      @TheMilitantMazdakite Рік тому

      @@mikotagayuna8494 I agree, but even the wildest claims, like the great flood, are often based on reality. In my estimation, said great flood is based on the thawing of the ice age.

    • @mikotagayuna8494
      @mikotagayuna8494 Рік тому

      @@TheMilitantMazdakite It may be based on a real life event but it is also an allegory - a literary instrument about hubris and depravity. The message of the Bible can be true without needing to be historically accurate. Unfortunately, that's beyond the scope of Dave's work as a self-identified atheist.

    • @Guyfromfuture-vq2td
      @Guyfromfuture-vq2td 10 місяців тому

      after 800 bc the details seems to be accurate

  • @angusyang5917
    @angusyang5917 Рік тому +2

    Question: Let's say hypothetically one day, a facet of creationism or intelligent design was proven reliably and undeniably correct, by a scientific source, using the correct methods. Say an artifact was discovered on a distant world, which details how an alien race created the first humans out of non-human apes, kind of like what the monolith does in 2001: A Space Odyssey, with radiocarbon dating corroborating with the rise of the first humans. Or say Dr. James Tour was proven correct when a record is recovered from the ground underneath an ocean, that explains how an intelligent designer was able to create the first living cells, with radiouranium dating matching. How would you and other science communicators address this? How do you think we should address Dr. Tour and other DI members if this happened, should we hail them as "ahead of their time" for guessing a hypothesis proven true, like Ernest Haeckel with his anatomical fetal drawings, or should we criticize them for not using scientific methods in the first place? How do you think the public would react? Would this increase support for other conspiracy theories or "hypotheses" thrown out there. This has happened before to a limited extent when German archaeologist Heinrich Schliemann began the first archaeological exploration (or rather, looting) of the site of Hisarlik, which lent some historical basis to the Trojan War, once seen as a complete fabrication. Please note that all of this is conjecture, there's very little chance of this happening, but it's just a thought experiment, to make one think.

    • @glennpearson9348
      @glennpearson9348 Рік тому +2

      Just guessing here, but Professor Dave has always advocated that we go to where the science leads us.
      I suspect any scientist worth his or her salt would do the same.
      Here's one counter-consideration for your hypothesis. Christianity would have us believe that their god created us in his image, right? Your hypothesis begins with the notion that this isn't, in fact, true. Instead, that we humans descended from some other extra-terrestrial race. Extending that hypothesis, what if that non-Earth race also believed in a god that made them in their god's image? Now we get to watch as the ages-long battle of "whose god is the 'real' god?" plays out.
      The truth is, god didn't create us in his image. We created him in ours.

    • @angusyang5917
      @angusyang5917 Рік тому +1

      ​@@glennpearson9348 Good point, I suppose it is a scientist's best interest to not concern themselves with hypotheticals like this that have little to no chance of happening, and instead focus their attention on things we can figure out and we can do. I just wanted to propose a hypothetical (not theoretical) scenario where somehow ID fits, impossible as that may be. One thing that should be noted is that religious texts like the Bible, Quran, and others were never meant to be taken literally. The writers of these books were not trying to record down an accurate history of what happened, they were writing down these stories as allegory and metaphor to teach lessons. Biblical literalists like Hovind are clinging on to a reality that was never meant to be. Professor Dave actually addresses your point in his reaction video to iamlucid, where he simply says in response to any argument about god creating the universe, "who made god"?

    • @glennpearson9348
      @glennpearson9348 Рік тому +2

      @@angusyang5917 Well said. I enjoy hypotheticals as well, but scientists will agree that hypotheticals should begin as a "best guess." I would offer that, given the amount of evidence produced to date, our current "best guess" for the origins of the universe and the origins of life does not involve the existence of an all-powerful, supernatural being having created everything, everywhere, all at once (sorry, couldn't resist the movie reference).

    • @angusyang5917
      @angusyang5917 Рік тому +2

      @@glennpearson9348 Don't worry about it, you're not the only one. I reference 2001 in my comment, which is an awesome movie. Any story about an intelligent creator creating mankind or life should be treated as science fiction at best, not to be taken seriously, but merely for storytelling and worldbuilding purposes.

    • @glennpearson9348
      @glennpearson9348 Рік тому +1

      @@angusyang5917 Loved 2001. Did you ever see the sequel, 2020? I thought that was pretty done, too.

  • @PoseidonDiver
    @PoseidonDiver Рік тому

  • @brucecook502
    @brucecook502 Рік тому +7

    It makes me laugh when theists of certain religions points to their holy books to point out things that sound scientifically accurate including things like the Earth hanging on nothing, and the stars were put in the expanse of the Skies to bolster their claims that their holy books where indeed inspired by their one true God of their religion, when here we have a culture that produced people who worshiped other gods who were the first to accurately identify the shape of our planet, and even suggested that the celestial objects in the night sky are positioned far from the Earth whereas in the abrahamic holy books,, the Earth and everything we see in the sky is all contained in what is described as a snow globe on a flat world. Kind of ironic wouldn't you say?

  • @Valdagast
    @Valdagast Рік тому

    No love for Parmenides?

  • @User-qi5ef
    @User-qi5ef Рік тому

    What did socrates have against writing?

    • @michaelhoward3048
      @michaelhoward3048 Рік тому +3

      Socrates believed the act of conducting philosophy itself was through dialogue and argumentation, and that philosophy was a living, breathing art form subject to natural selection. But to capture philosophy in writing commits it to dogma, unable to be corrected or revised. It's words etched in stone unable to answer for themselves any questions or refutations. They become like statues without change, standing permanent in place without life.
      And worse, Socrates believed that referring to "ink marks" instead of relying on memory dulled the mind and made it dependent on static ideas rather than the dynamic process of debate and dialogue. He felt writing would give rise to lazy minds content with the thoughts of others rather than formulating their own thoughts.

    • @wordcel
      @wordcel Рік тому

      @@michaelhoward3048 Did he really believe this? How do you know that if he didn't write anything? If he did, then I have a newfound respect for him

    • @michaelhoward3048
      @michaelhoward3048 Рік тому +3

      @Zarathustra In Plato's "Phaedra" Socrates explains the very views I described, using even some of the same analogies I did. You could search the phrase "Socrates on writing" and find many articles discussing his views on writing and their corresponding sections found in Plato's "Phaedra".

    • @wordcel
      @wordcel Рік тому +1

      @@michaelhoward3048 Thank you!

  • @vanceamazing9745
    @vanceamazing9745 Рік тому +1

    I have noted a youtuber making anti-woke videos, gabe poirot.
    While the man himself concerns me, I was wondering more about the "modern Christian revival" taking place. I haven't gotten many details from it.

  • @naturallypurple
    @naturallypurple Рік тому +2

    Professor Dave, please roast Christians against Dinosaurs. I want you to roast the hell out of these liars and possibly get gullible people to stop believing in these unhealthy lies.

  • @codatheseus5060
    @codatheseus5060 Рік тому

    The picture for this video looked like fried chicken when I wasn't looking directly at it

  • @EricPham-gr8pg
    @EricPham-gr8pg 10 місяців тому

    The phygoretherean theorem seems to works only in linited case just like the number π is changing with radius if circle grow larger Pi change too

  • @excelacademy7752
    @excelacademy7752 Рік тому

    👍

  • @analternatemultiverse2063
    @analternatemultiverse2063 Рік тому

    Why are these videos called tutorials? Isn't that learning *how* to do something, not what it is?

    • @ProfessorDaveExplains
      @ProfessorDaveExplains  Рік тому +6

      tu·to·ri·al
      noun
      1.
      a period of instruction given by a university or college tutor to an individual or very small group.

    • @FlatEarthKiller
      @FlatEarthKiller Рік тому

      I think its how to think?

  • @KaterinaStamatelos
    @KaterinaStamatelos 10 місяців тому

    "ΚΟΣΜΟΝΤΟΝΔΕΤΟΝΑΥΤΟΝΑΠΑΝΤΩΝΟΥΤΕΤΙΣΘΕΩΝΟΥΤΕ ΑΝΘΡΩΠΩΝΕΠΟΙΗΣΕΑΛΛΗΝ ΑΕΙΚΑΙΕΣΤΙΝΚΑΙΕΣΤΑΙΠΥΡΑΕΙΖΩΟΝΑΠΤΟΜΕΝΟΝΜΕΤΡΑΚΑΙ ΑΠΟΣΒΕΝΝΥΜΕΝΟΝΜΕΤΡΑ" ΗΡΑΚΛΕΙΤΟΣ
    "This world, which is the same for all, no one of gods or men has made. But it always was, is, and will be: an ever-living Fire, with measures of it kindling, and measures going out." HERACLITUS