Plato To Pythagoras: How The Ancient Greeks Created Our World | The First World | Odyssey

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  • The influence of Ancient Greece's greatest thinkers has had an enormous effect on how we perceive the world today. From the fundamentals of mathematics to thought experiments that help us comprehend our modern reality, it all began with the Greeks.
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  • @arissarkides1380
    @arissarkides1380 7 місяців тому +5

    Along the same pattern I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's video "the rise and fall of the Hellenic civilization", especially as far as the rationalistic development is concerned

  • @jaredsmith112
    @jaredsmith112 7 місяців тому +4

    Excellent video. The Greeks were fascinating and advanced for their age

  • @Pontiki1977
    @Pontiki1977 2 місяці тому +3

    Shaptai/Sabetai Unguru @ 6:10, died this last January(06/12/2024). May he rest in peace. Thank you for your work sir.

  • @johnaugsburger6192
    @johnaugsburger6192 3 місяці тому

    Thanks

  • @factsoverfear9771
    @factsoverfear9771 7 місяців тому +7

    Egyptians 💡

  • @maplehugger1857
    @maplehugger1857 4 місяці тому +4

    guys... remember that this is a documentary from 1990. of course it's not going to be 100% up to date.

    • @jormajokelainen9089
      @jormajokelainen9089 Місяць тому

      These 30 years maybe have not greatly changed our knowledge and understanding of ancient Greece! I do not see this as a bad problem, the video is that good!

  • @categories5066
    @categories5066 3 місяці тому +7

    Pythagoras came before Plato. The title should be Pythagoras to Plato

  • @Merc_0158E7
    @Merc_0158E7 7 місяців тому +3

    in accordance with the theme, don't watch the video just listen.... The editors weren't as good as the message. It's distracting.

  • @TheAnarchitek
    @TheAnarchitek 2 місяці тому +2

    Point of order:
    Pythagoras was born 150 years BEFORE Plato! Perhaps you mean Solon (laws - 638BC), to Socrates (Philosophy - 470BC), via Pythagoras (Mathematics - 570BC), Aeschylus (Literature - 525BC), and Hippocrates, (Medicine - 460BC).

  • @user-hy9nh4yk3p
    @user-hy9nh4yk3p 6 місяців тому +3

    China was long ago - advanced in the work - with mathematics and the like.
    There were ancient ties of - India with Egypt and therefore links with Greece - in these fields. If one researches - ancient India - knowledge spheres - one will be truly amazed and grateful - to those seers.
    The Zero (all important concept) - arises out of the - being of Bharat.
    It was gifted - as so many of India's ideas - freely ..... Fare thee well.

  • @brandonleroux6059
    @brandonleroux6059 2 місяці тому +1

    Judging by the sound I think this documentary was made inside a submarine.

  • @bsaxton6400
    @bsaxton6400 6 місяців тому +2

    Dont forget about the Persians. They made the worlds first sewage system.

  • @benquinneyiii7941
    @benquinneyiii7941 2 місяці тому

    Speak truth to Plato

  • @user-yy9hk9od9u
    @user-yy9hk9od9u 7 місяців тому +13

    The Ancient Egyptians had advanced mathematics thousands of years before the Greeks. They used advanced math to construct the pyramids with great precision.

  • @13minutestomidnight
    @13minutestomidnight 4 місяці тому +1

    However, we all have different perceptions on reality, and so different perceptions on the ultimate truth. The ultimate truth may exist - in fact it does exist - but how we see it and understand it when we see it is key. Being able to look beyond the veil of mundane reality and understand truth is part of the human condition.
    On a side note, you cannot really call Russian communism a parallel to Plato's republic because it was quickly distorted and twisted by Stalin, who dominated it and used the entire society for his own personal gain - in fact, he became a tyrant King instead. This tainted all of USSR society which came afterwards.

  • @drdread9896
    @drdread9896 7 місяців тому +14

    So before the “ancient Greeks” there was no math?!🤔🤣

    • @j.s3300
      @j.s3300 7 місяців тому

      Thats right

    • @drdread9896
      @drdread9896 7 місяців тому

      @@j.s3300 so people didn’t have any math before the “ancient Greeks??!

    • @j.s3300
      @j.s3300 7 місяців тому

      @@drdread9896 absolutely...birthdays were crazy

    • @manueldumont3709
      @manueldumont3709 7 місяців тому +1

      Before ancient-Kemet's wRAiting, thERE wERE(gRAmmAR)

    • @Lucy-mf5gk
      @Lucy-mf5gk 7 місяців тому +1

      Perhaps without great definition...

  • @starcapture3040
    @starcapture3040 7 місяців тому +19

    this title need some fixation, How Greek Philosophers added to Mathematics. Math existed long before the Greeks.

    • @sinusoidalsilhouette510
      @sinusoidalsilhouette510 7 місяців тому

      Not only that, but Plato and Pythagoras wouldn’t think that they “created” mathematics, but rather discovered.

    • @starcapture3040
      @starcapture3040 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sinusoidalsilhouette510 they already knew it from Mesopotamia and Egypt. this picture that westerners trying to make us perceive as if the Greeks were living in some sort of vacuum is weird and dumb.

    • @sinusoidalsilhouette510
      @sinusoidalsilhouette510 7 місяців тому +3

      @@starcapture3040 yea same with India and China. Math is just a very universal thing.

    • @starcapture3040
      @starcapture3040 7 місяців тому

      @@sinusoidalsilhouette510 indeed!

    • @LondonPower
      @LondonPower 7 місяців тому +1

      So why the word mathematics is Greek ?

  • @ODGColornChrome
    @ODGColornChrome 7 місяців тому +11

    Trigonometry has been found on some of the Babylonian tablets well before Greece. Just saying, you may want to redo this vid!

    • @TalentedTenth
      @TalentedTenth 2 місяці тому

      Pythagoras spent 15 years in Egypt where he learned a thing or two about triangles.

  • @fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602
    @fabiodeoliveiraribeiro1602 7 місяців тому +5

    This documentary is old and disseminates outdated ideas. The theorem supposedly discovered by Pythagoras was recorded in Cuneiform writing on a clay tablet made 1000 years before that philosopher. We owe modernity more to the Babylonians than to the Greeks.

  • @edwin-pixar1876
    @edwin-pixar1876 5 місяців тому

    Mathematics is good for many things but it doesnt explain why or how.. only it is like this.

  • @adamlangley6033
    @adamlangley6033 6 місяців тому

    who knows⁉

  • @haruspexambient
    @haruspexambient 7 місяців тому +3

    thank you ancient Greece for our knowledge for trading 8 pieces of biface to 4 pieces of leather or something

  • @ScarabChronicles
    @ScarabChronicles 7 місяців тому +6

    Very misleading... "Pythagorean" triples were found on Babylonian tablets and before that about 25,000 BC in the congo, the Ishango bone. It shows evidence of multiplication similar to the math found in Ancient Egypt.
    The Ancient Greeks were a great civilization but "everything's a remix" they borrowed from those before them.

    • @Komdwy
      @Komdwy 2 місяці тому

      Borrowed what? Can you prove that Pythagoras based his work on Egyptians' work?

    • @ScarabChronicles
      @ScarabChronicles 2 місяці тому

      @@Komdwy Borrowed many things. Can you prove all aspects of their civilization are independently developed without outside influence or cultural exchange? No, because almost all civilizations have borrowed from those before them, not just the Greeks.
      Also I didn't say Pythagoras based his work on Egyptians, although it's possible. I basically said he wasn't the first.

    • @Komdwy
      @Komdwy 2 місяці тому

      @@ScarabChronicles You claimed that Pythagoras based his work on Egyptian tablets or so. Can you prove it? "Europeans" can't accept the fact that ancient greeks were the Inventors of western civilization.

  • @Shaggy-8392
    @Shaggy-8392 7 місяців тому +7

    And the sumerians, their forefathers and Egyptians were using guesswork to work out the stars and create their cities?

  • @publictv7473
    @publictv7473 7 місяців тому +2

    who the hell titled this?

  • @dariaangelopoulou
    @dariaangelopoulou 2 місяці тому

    We live in a Matrix 😀

  • @bravebird1578
    @bravebird1578 7 місяців тому +3

    Imhotep a polymath and an egyptian preceded them both. He was their teacher...another hijack. No surprise.

    • @fercos33
      @fercos33 7 місяців тому

      where did they say that Greeks invented math?

  • @glps6167
    @glps6167 2 місяці тому

    As Pythagoras lived before Plato, awkward title.
    How old is this documentary ? The claim that Pythagoras' theorem was a "new discovery" has long been disproved; the Babylonians knew it 1000 years earlier.

  • @walt3223
    @walt3223 7 місяців тому +2

    Pythagoras was a student of Thales, so, his son. Thales brought forth to the ancient Greek world, Geometry and more. I find this video a downer and misleading.

  • @spj4188
    @spj4188 23 дні тому

    I agree Plato was a great man with great ideas and a profound philosophy, but man would have still made the same advancements regardless of his existence. No one man is responsible for all this video portrays. It is like saying only one man could ever come up with the idea of a wheel.

  • @MrDelvoye
    @MrDelvoye 7 місяців тому +3

    Yes greek invented math😂 funny joke

  • @babusastry
    @babusastry Місяць тому

    Too many statements made with SPEAKER'S DECISIONS established.
    Would have liked to know some real anecdotes S P A, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle.
    Bombastic statements, even if true, make listening to a narratio n boring.
    Sorry

  • @zeroonetime
    @zeroonetime Місяць тому

    010
    T.E.N. = The Eternal Now = OUROBOROS Timing Times Relativity = Timeism
    لا الله الا زمان
    لا اللهً الا سلام
    ابراهيم رسول السلام
    Go
    Go YAHWEH for all of humanity. Yahweh I.S. Information System.

  • @factsoverfear9771
    @factsoverfear9771 7 місяців тому +5

    Fake news. Egyptians did 💡

  • @jacobrush8280
    @jacobrush8280 7 місяців тому +1

    All the babies crying over Egypt lol

    • @King_Cantona7
      @King_Cantona7 6 місяців тому

      Sumerians, the ancient Chinese and Egyptians are downplayed and the Greeks are given all the credit/praise 😁 whitewashing of history.

    • @aarongriego429
      @aarongriego429 Місяць тому

      they forgot Greeks conquer them

  • @trojanpussy
    @trojanpussy 7 місяців тому

    💝🙏🕯very beautifull insight