Installing Complete Aftermarket Sheet metal and running into issues. 69 Firebird
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- Опубліковано 11 січ 2024
- On this video we are test fitting the complete exterior structure with all the new aftermarket sheet metal on the 69 Pontiac Firebird when we run into fitment issues. I go over these issues and address some other fitment problems you will run into on your
1969 Chevrolet Camaro, Pontiac Firebird and most any other F-body car. The door gap to the quarter panel can be adjusted if not looking like it should and I will show you how.
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Looking 'gooder' each video.
Indeed! Lol. Thanks
Found your channel just in time working on my 69 Camaro , awesome videos. Thanks
Awesome! Thank you! Are I to the sheet metal part of your build
Looking good Jon 👍
Thanks 👍
Lined up nicely.
Can’t complain!
Great tips john well done
Thanks 👍
The light went on in my head when you pointed out aligning the door to the rocker first. That makes perfect sense. Your knowledge blows my mind (as we used to say).LOL
I can’t say I didn’t learn a lot of this stuff the very hard way being all self taught. With UA-cam I can share this experience and save a few people some headaches.
Jon, when you start doing the 10 zillion plug welds, show us some in depth….. we’re still learning to make them look clean
Deal. Good point.
Instead of 10 zillion plug welds, why not use a small spot welder. I use a 110 volt spot welder from Harbor Freight where they can be seen. Like rocker panels etc..
Can't wait to see it finished John , you do really nice work and I love me some 69 trans/am even if it is a tribute.
Right on! My favorite or dream car i should say is a 1969 TransAm
More good content...thank you
More to come!
Been watching your videos, came across them maybe fore the great pumpkin, but definitely all of that one and now with the mockingbird. You definitely have no fear of getting right into them, even if they're a rot box ! Most would be in over their heads and just walk away or continue on doing a HACK JOB ! Seen a lot of it over the years. I'm kinda like you in away, I'm a one man band with a small shop that does restorations on old muscle cars. Doing a 69' #'s matching Z-28 now that at one time in it's past was owned by, I call him Mr. Hacker Lol, all the gaps were off terribly, some by as much as another 1/8" from the 3/16 that they should be and the alignments were just as bad. So far I've replaced firewall, floor pan, trunk pan, drop downs inner rear tail panel, both rear frame rails, inner rear wheel well, and outer rockers. Mr. Hacker put NOS rear quarters and tail panel on and hung the quarters wrong not to mention that instead of using the full quarter and going up to the factory seam at the roof, he cut them about a quarter way up the sail panel...Just a complete hack job. I'm very impressed with your knowledge, did you ever work at a body shop or are you self taught like me ? You must really like your job, what ever it is that you do for a living, because you could definitely do very well if you were to open a restoration shop !!. Just thought I'd throw that out there. Lol
I have seen some crazy hacks in my years playing cars. All of what you see is self taught. Lot of books and magazines back in the day then shows like overhaulin gave me a lot of insight. Then many mistakes later I seem to get along good now. I am still playing with the idea of operating a resto shop.
1969 z numbers matching is a nice project and using OEM panels would be great. Unfortunately what you described how it was installed some people think that is good quality. It happens a lot and it’s crazy what people have paid for those repairs, blows my mind even how long it takes too. Thanks for watching and keep on saving these classics too
Save my 69' real T/A about 7 yrs ago, again hack jobs from previous owners. Car had 4 different paint jobs all on top of the original factory paint along with a lot of real bad body work. Bought from Restore A Muscle Car, not sure if you know of them, but Dave Hall the owner decided to flip it instead of doing the restoration, probably because he would've had all the money in it with no room for profit.@@VinylVillageGarage
Great tips. Thanks
You bet!
Just beautiful work, Jon. Your tips are amazing. Looking forward to the next video!
Thanks so much!
Excellent tips. Glad yours came out really good. Hopefully ours will come that nice. Thanks for sharing.👍
I hope so too!
Excellent tips John!! You do some pretty nice work! 👍🏽
Thanks 👍
Looks great! Nice fitment on the new panels
I am beyond happy with the panel fitment
What a great tip. Thank you, brother, I might just need this one
Any time!
Great video! The best thing about this video is you and Jubee Mays from the AMD installation center gave the same advice on this type of issue! You both do outstanding work! His channel is aMaysing Metal Works.
Well that cool. We both can’t be wrong, thanks for sharing i will check it out.
Maybe i missed it, but you need to beat the top seam down on the inner wheel wells, or it will cut the convertible top when its down.
Yup it gets done when I put the wheel well back on the floor. It’s hard to get it to bend once installed in the car especially the area behind the top cylinder brackets
Jon, you do some of the best work I have seen. Loving the progress you are making on this beauty. You may have already addressed this question, so my apologies, but are you painting her blue with white stripes or going white with blue stripes?
White with blue on this one
Copy that.
Great advice Jon. Same trick that Jubee Mays (aMAYSing metal works) uses for door gap adjustments. He has his cars on a jig and adds 1/2 spacer to rear frame rail mount to close that gap. Hope the repop doors don't screw you up, they can be a little shorter or a little longer depending.....the original doors don't look too bad, are they fixable?
Wow. That’s cool. I have had a handful of people that build these cars and they have observed the frame rail heights are rarely the same 3/4” variations. It’s nice to know someone else did it on UA-cam. I will check it out. Is it a recent video? I would like to see it.
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Thanks!
I understand what youve just said about making sure the door is aligned with the rocker when checking quater panel fitment, but dont you have to see how the front fender alligns with the front of the door as well, or is there enough adjustment in the fender that you dont have to worry?
The only adjustment I will have to make to the door is in and out not up or down to match the fender. The door should line up to even with the rocker panel front to back and nice to the 1/4 panel before replacing the 1/4 panel. I use the door as an alignment tool during the 1/4 replacement. I don’t touch the hinges on the door after I get it set to where it fits best to the 1/4.
Nice work. Not sure if I missed it but why doesn’t the guarters have gills?
1969 Firebird didn’t have them. 67&68 birds do and 1969 Camaro has 1/4 panel indentions
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Thank you!
Jon, what lenght of metal screw do you use?
Majority is 1/2” I have some longer ones for pulling large gaps when needed
Thank you!