Restoring your dream car? best replacement panel brand?
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- Starting a restoration project? Before you purchase any body panels watch this side by side comparison and explanation of what is out there and what makes each brand better or worse. Sharing my experience to save you time and grief on your restoration project so you can keep it on track and enjoyable. plus follow along as the 1968 Firebird convertible in this video gets the rusted out panels replaced in future episodes. check it out and thanks for watching.
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Good Information on sheet metal..
Before I started building these cars I tried doing some research. Came up with every brand claimed to be the best of course. I wanted to do some side comparisons but found no one near me stocked any panels let alone multiple brands. So I figured I could share my experience side by side and hope it helps. Thank you for watching!
@@VinylVillageGarage Back in the early 90's Factory OEM panels were still available thru Classic Industries. I was a fool and thought I could hold off on purchasing them. What a mistake that was..
Just about ready to order a new roof skin for my 67 Bird and was wondering which brand to go with...sounds like AMD!
Super glad to help. Keep them birds alive thanks for your help!
Hoping that little birdie leads you to another first gen acquisition 😁
hopefully so. i almost feel one has to be painted autumn bronze if we end up with both.
Autumn bronze is a nice color
Thank you Jon for all your time helping us! I am fairly new to the Bird restoration business, I am working on my 80 Fiero Bronze Bird which needs lots of love, and your video's give great insight!
Very welcome and glad to help, best wishes on your bird project too.
Thanks! Good info, I was wondering which was the best.
Glad to help. I tried to research this and did not find much side by side comparisons so I wanted to put this out there to save you some grief or improve the quality of your project.
Are you rebuilding a car?
Funny stuff, could have sworn I saw walnut shells in the inside of your car. I found some in mine.
Walnut shell, dead mice, unknown matter……. I can’t imagine what is actuality hiding in these cars. I have yet to find something awesome. The neatest was a small combination wrench inside the rocker panel of my first Firebird. I have no clue how it got in there maybe from the factory
@@VinylVillageGarage oh Wow, factory tool. Antenna was not powered. Anything special for removing rear seat?
All my research points to AMD being the best product from what I have read. I used OER products restoring my 64 impala and it was all a horrible fit. Trim and chrome parts I had to send back. The rubber bumper stops lasted a year and started to degrade to a chalky powder. I have not bough any AMD for my 69 convertible yet . So I can not comment first hand on my experience with those products yet.
so far like 90% of the time when I compare a AMD panel vs any other brand I prefer the AMD and it is better. cleaner lines, better fitting, correct or at least heavier gauge steel.
I would definitely say AMD. But their customer service sucks at least this past year. OER is pretty good also and their customer service is awesome.
Thanks for sharing. I have used both and get good results but prefer amd of given a choice. Never had to deal with Customer yet if I have to I will keep that in mind. Poor customer service is not good. Appreciate the info and thanks for watching!
I have found AMD to be the best solution for my project as well. Like your Pantera Shirt. 🤘
Heck yeah. The miss’s got me this shirt when we first started dating. That was when I knew she was a keeper!!
Great video on floor pan differences between brands and coupes to convertibles. Looking into this now for a 67 camaro i just bought yesterday and this answered a couple of my questions i had. You got a new subscriber
That’s great! 1967 floor pans are a little different they don’t have that hump at the rear where the trunk floor meets the main floor pan. Not the end of the world if you get the wrong one. Hammer and dolly work will get it worked out. Good luck and thanks for subscribing
I trust any man with a Pantera shirt,All Mopar for me Own 3 of them
I actually got to see pantera well what’s left them in concert last summer. Glad I went.
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I just turned 62 last month and love Pantera,all time favorite being Rush,sadly Tragedy in both Bands one man made one God made
Love your Pontiacs
Short story Had a 67 Convertible Pontiac 2+2 Blue white top 428 4 bolt main 4 speed and Factory Hood tach stolen from me mid 80s out of Halstead Kansas Very few made
@mikeroberts5646 that would be an amazing car to have now. That is a rare set up. Even that big of a car it was still impressive power and speed
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Most of all it was georgeous,sadly they got the title too,as it was stored in the part of the building I rented from A Carpet business
Nothing I can do oh well My 70 Charger keeps me Company now and 2 others as well,I thought I saw it recently on UA-cam
I agree with you 100% the best I even think they are just as thick as GM or thicker and my taillight panel was Goodman and the two quarter panel skins fit perfect I have bought three trunk lids from NPD and they replaced one and the one I have I really had to work to get it right but it is weak!! AMD is raising there prices up on everything wanted to get a trunk lid but it's like 300.00!!! I see that 1969 fierbird there on the side that car is sweet too...
I did a big AMD order paid a little more but it was all in stock and already have it. I have a friend still waiting on frame rails it been a month already
Thanks for the information.
Anytime!
i ordered a set of amd front fenders and was less than happy with the fitment at the windshield and door. i have been told this is a commen problem with the amd fenders but it is very frustrating issue. to get the enders to bolt to the car your going to have to do some reshaping of the fenders at the cowl and door top area.
I have yet to buy a replacement fender, mostly because all I have heard is horror stories about fitment, any brand.
I have purchased AMD 1969 Camaro lower fender patches and loved the fitment mostly because heavy gauge and comes with the inners braces too.
Where they Firebird and what year is your car?
@@VinylVillageGarage they were amd brand fenders but for my 67 camaro project im not sure amd stamps firebird fenders or wquarters they are their x brand part numbers
The X label is supposed to be their lesser quality. They don’t make any Camaro or Firebird parts that don’t have the x in the part number that I have found yet. I have used Multiple brand fender patches, hoods,rear frame rails, rear full 1/4 panels, one piece floor pan, trunk floor and rocker panels. After I Started using AMD I found They where heavier gauge steel and cleaner body lines and less fuss to install in comparison. I have yet to use any brand fenders. I might just buy one to try it. I have a 68 bird I am doing next and the rf fender is rough. Thank you for your feedback i do appreciate it and I will still be leery to purchase fenders from any brand. you confirmed what I have heard for quite sometime.
I also bought AMD fenders for my car, although I haven't installed them yet, I did notice the wheel opening is rolled horribly, I'm pretty sure it's so bad that my wheel well molding will never go on them correctly.
Nice shirt 😎. And another awesome informative video
My kids buy me a lot of interesting t-shirts. Of course i have to share them
I know where a 68 is sitting, I've been thinking about making an offer on it but I'm just not a firebird guy. I prefer Camaro but maybe I'll buy it to use for trading
if you do pass on buying it is it near Indianapolis? I have a friend looking for a 1968 Firebird.
@@VinylVillageGarage no it's in Florida, actually I know of three 68 firebirds for sale down here
A little bit of a drive and sounds like I need to visit Florida more often. Thanks for letting me know much appreciated
@@VinylVillageGarage you're welcome. I use to live in Ohio and knew where a bunch were. Probably long gone now
Now Ohio is not a bad drive, probably long gone for sure. It seems the asking price is going up and availability going down on first gen fbody cars. Good luck on your search and hopefully future project.
Really enjoy watching your videos. These 1st gen are pretty cool. Have you done much with 2nd gen? I think a 455SD would be interesting.
Thank you! I do like second gen birds too. I have owned a 71,73 and 79. Wish I still had them. Of course if I found a 73 SD I might have to buy another 2nd gen. Yes it would be interesting and amazing
@VVG Firebird Restoration Station my first car was a gold 71 formula. I wish I still had it
Only problem I can see with AMD is they don't make patch panels. I don't need a whole quarter or fender just some patch panels for a 1975 Trans Am and most fit like crap.
True that is one down fall, most patch panels are a little rough
I’ve been buying AMD stuff for my 69 camaro. Just bought a deck lid though, and chose one from national parts depot that’s a cheap import. They claim it is a good one and I’ve heard AMD’s deck lids aren’t great. We’ll see… so far the AMD stuff I’ve bought looks great though.
I have had hit or miss quality with all brands unfortunately but overall AMD has held a better record. Let me know what you think of the truck lid too! I am curious what you find
@@VinylVillageGarage it looks great. I’ll put it on soon and let you know. It was only $150 and shipped UPS for free from NPD because I spent over $300 total.
@@VinylVillageGarage I sent you a message on Instagram. The deck lid fits good.
Really!! That’s great news, thanks for the info. I appreciate it, I like to share what I learn so this is helpful.
@@VinylVillageGarage yup. I sent you a pic through Instagram. Really happy with it especially for the price
On my 68 camaro convertible I used an OER rear quarter a little fitting but I’m happy. AMD sells them but they don’t make them. Any body tried one?
I tired OER Quarter skins on my 1969 convertible, the body lines were a bit weak and not as smooth of a panel. I ended up buying full 1/4 panels from AMD instead. the question is did you buy a full 1/4 or just a skin. I wonder if that is where the differences are
@@VinylVillageGarage it is a full quarter.
@@binski5986 thanks! I really think I will only buy full 1/4s if it’s in the budget.
@@VinylVillageGarage I couldn’t find out much about quarters on the net either. Never replaced one before,but I like a challenge. Thanks for your videos, keep up the wavy thing with your hand and fingers!
Thanks and will do.
Question im restoring a 69 camaro coupe which needs a floor pand. Its still on the frame as a driver. Will a FULL FLOOR PAN slide through the front windshield area once removed? it looks like it will just wanted to ask.
Thanks,
That is a very good question that I can’t guarantee the answer, I have been told yes but I don’t see how, I have a 68 bird coupe that needs the floor replaced in it. I might try and experiment and prove if it can be done. The cars I have replaced the floor pans in have been convertibles or the front sub frame was out and I put them in from the bottom, not to mention it clears all the bracing I add before I cut the floor out but still you have a very good question in which I intend to prove here very soon.
Thanks for the response in reference to the question. From my measurements i believe if the steering column is removed it will slide through. Thats not a sure thing, so I as well may try it if the patch pans do not work out to my liking. But never the less you'r videos are the best for restoration of classic cars. I cant thank you enough for the time you dedicate to the channel.
Very welcome, I hope to keep you and of course myself motivated on our projects. I do appreciate good questions too so anything please feel free to ask. I haven’t posted the videos yet but I am stripping a 68 bird every nut and bolt and keeping track of the total cost in parts to give a fair idea what it costs to put a car back together like new. During this process I will have loads of opportunity for questions and answers.