Having been in gunfights, you can never have too much ammo. 10 round capacity guns are for the states limiting capacity. I’d carry a 30 round magazine if it fit in my pocket. 😉
Gun fights lmao what are you as cartel member shooting at other cartels. . You fool self defense in right I front of you and in a real self defense you only have time for a few shots . This isn’t a video game were your dicking taking cover behind cars shooting . You unload 15 rounds your getting life in prison
Agreed, a small reliable gun you can draw fast that works reliably with a round that delivers - first 3-4 rounds matter so much more than the last 3-4 rounds in your mag.
The point of the video is to only use the intended mag for the firearm. If you want more capacity then you just need to buy a different firearm than the 43x and 48! Respect
@@spnfirearms Thats the main thing that kept me from buying a g43x and g48 when I was looking at my first ccw instead I went with the sig 365 XL. Had everything I needed out of the box,.
10+1 is statistically enough, but if I can carry more without too much inconvenience, why not. With my aim, I need all the help I can get..LOL I'm even starting to think one firearm might not be enough..You just never know. I may have a split personality under stress, that is left handed. Took me a while to write this, I had to order a ambi-belly band..Now, I am prepared for anything..
Used to carry the first gen Shield, too many rounds through it to count with 100% reliability (minus shooter error of course). Moved to the Shield+ as soon as it came out and again, lots of rounds through it with 100% reliability. I carry with the 10rd in the gun and a spare 13rd on my weak side hip and NEVER FEEL UNDER ARMED! Good video, it needs to be said that any mods made to your life saving tools are a gamble that some of us just aren't willing to take.
Shield plus is a great edc, it doesn’t need any mod. I still carry my Shield 2.0 with 7 rounds in gun and 8 rounds spare when I’m in a good neighborhood. When I’m in the hood or going on road trip, I carry higher capacity 9mm, Hellcat or M&P compact 2.0.
It's honestly pretty funny to watch people learn and develop as armed citizens as they gain some years of experience carrying. People start out wanting to feel like special forces operators or police with high capacity, weapon mounted lights, red dots, etc. Fast forward about ten years and most people are carrying either a mouse gun, slim 9mm, or a J-frame with no light, extra mags, or anything. People learn that having to expend more than 5 rounds at a range farther than a few yards is realistically not going to happen. Carry a tool for the job at hand. Most of us are civilians doing civilian things. 5+ rounds of ammunition in a reliable gun that is super comfortable to carry is good enough. If you are facing 4 armed attackers on your trip to the gas station, you don't need an extra magazine. You need backup (and to move to a new town).
I’ve been carrying 7+1 and 8+1 for the past 20yrs. I thankfully have yet to even have to brandish my firearm. Too many people are out here trying to live out their John Wick fantasies and refuse to leave the house with no less than a 15 round capacity pistol while carrying 3 backup mags. I have many friends who are/were police officers in pretty violent cities, and neither one has had to fire a shot in the line of duty. Yet most of these UA-camrs will have you believe that they will encounter situations where they’ll have to take on 3 bad guys on the way to/from the gym and need 30+ rounds to defend themselves. 🤷🏼♂️
I’ve seen security footage of 3+ scholars hopping out and attacking/mugging people so I prefer to have extra if I’m downtown or somewhere not awesome to be. John wick sounds more like a nightmare than a fantasy to me
Since other guns with similar reliability were available in 13+1 with the exact same size and lower price. No reason for a G48 over a Shield Plus frankly
I went through shield arms mags with nothing but issues. I went to psa mags and not 1. Tested them enough to trust, but always keep an oem 10 plus 1 in the 43x
Completed my glock collection today with finally getting a Glock 26. Got em all now, some duplicates of several generations after watching your videos over the past year about the 26
I know it doesn’t make all that match difference, but more rds is more weight. If you are trying to go as lite as possible it makes sense to go with fewer rds. I mean if I’m going into the belly of the beast I want a full size pistol, light, red dot, 18 or 21 rds, etc. But if I just need something to put in the pocket of some shorts for a quick trip a single stack will likely do just fine.
Question, after market mags is frowned upon when it comes to pistols, but when purchasing rifles, for example, an AR-15, why is it ok to buy PMag Magpul mags? We’re not trying to only purchase the AR manufacturers mags. IJS.
I carry a Glock 43x with the oem mag, I bought shield arms mag for it and never personally had any problems, but I heard about the problems with them and that was enough distrust for me to switch back to oem mags. I dont feel like im at a disadvantage with it. Im still just as confident with it, if not more cuz i can fully trust a glock mag over aftermarket.
The biggest issue with the 43x/48 is the length being the same length as a 19. Because of this, assumptions were made to believe these guns would also be 15 round oem. When they weren't and the 43x was not the slimmer 26 shield arms offers with its grip chop, people got upset because expections were not met. As far as capacity, gun size, and caliber to conceal carry, YOU (not the internet or guntubers (no offense spn) or anyone else) have to decide what is best for you. If your gun spends more time in the safe than on your person, its time find something you will carry everywhere
On my 26 I carry the standard mag with the Peirce grip extension I think 10 in a mag is decent but I always carry it in a sidecar holster with a spare Glock 19 mag it's perfect for me I think people just don't settle for the mag capacity due to all the restrictions in certain states
I had shield mags when I bought my 43X used. I traded them for stock 10 rd. I also worry about mag capacity at times but I remember once asking a county sheriff about capacity and he said “ I will tell you one thing when someone pulls a gun and starts shooting , no one counts shots they just get the hell out “. I feel 11 rounds is sufficient !
sounds like fuddlore except the GenZ 9mm version, “its all about shot placement and if ya need more than 1 round its prolly cuz ya aint carryin a .45!”
Good morning. I carry a 5 shot wheel gun alot. Yestery was Glock 19 and SP101. G48 with factory mags way to go IMO. Hope you and your family are doing well. See ya.🇺🇲🌲🔥🔪
Good points my state has a 10 round capacity limit so this is fueling my delusion that 10 rounds is okay for me. Just picked up a canik sf elite but only can hold 10 rounds is annoying
I traded my shield arms mags for two oem mags, 33 round mag, and cash for it. Definitely worth it in my opinion. I carry an extra mag so I feel very comfortable carrying my 48/43x. Plus oem mags are cheaper so you can stock up more of them.
Magpul 12rd is the only worthwhile aftermarket mag for Glock. Reliable and the only mag the sits right between 10rd flush and OEM 10+2 in terms of size
😅 Spn I respect you greatly brother! But it’s that but it’s always that scenario in the back of my head if I run into 3-4 dumb kids with Glocks with drums and extended magazines and a SWITCH. That’s not gonna retreat if I pull out 10 rounds… I carry extra mags but those extra 5 to 7 rounds can make a whole difference if you get into an actual gun fight.
I’ve seen far too many issues with shield arms mags being unreliable, if I carried a 43x/48 it would be factory OEM mags. That said my edc 99% of the time is my Ruger SP101 3” 327 Fed Mag and I have no concerns with those 6 rounds plus 2 speedloaders. The odd time I do carry a semi auto it’s an HK VP9SK but that will be replaced when my new HK CC9 arrives and I confirm its reliability. Even then it will be rarely carried.
This question is coming from a place of authenticity, as I'm really curious. I understand & appreciate the argument for OEM, what is escaping me is how the addition of + baseplates, particularly w/ no spring change, is not suseptible to the same argument?
Thanks for your vid ! At the end, with your silver slide edc, you said you test everything in depth. So why not take a set of shield mags, put like 1k rounds with each and then carry them ? (if no failure of course)
I see zero issues with running a reliable aftermarket magazine that you know and trust. If you are able to run 15 rounds in a 10 round gun that is absolutely a no brainer. While I personally am looking at the bodyguard 2.0 and the shield plus for my EDC I only run the OEM extended magazines when I carry it. Side note, I dislike the Shield 1.0 and 2.0 because of the single stack magazine that causes the grip to feel very slim and not comfortable in my hand, so it's a win win to carry the plus.
Just a friendly reminder People used to carry a 5 rdn revolvers for 100 years and didnt need more...😂 Many people used to carry pocket. 25acp and it worked well
@@xklocu1812 yeah I mean times have changed, everyone used to carry that back 100 years ago now the most popular handgun in the country is the Glock 19
Yeah but people back then they also didn't have to worry about lunatics walking in public places with AR-15s and doing mass shootings. I started carrying just a few years ago because of the mass shootings and there have been plenty of instances where the shooters had to be shot up to even a dozen times before they went down. It is a fact that it's better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it because you never know what kind of self-defense situation you might find yourself in. But I also got the point of SPN firearm's video, and that's to avoid certain aftermarket magazines, and not so much railing on higher capacity magazines in general.
I'm not against higher capacity. If I owned a gun as large as a Glock 43x and I could choose 10rds or 15rds, I would choose 15rds 100% of the time. Many people got their Glock 43x's and 48's before the Hellcat Pro came out and they like their guns and want to stick with them... and to have a gun that size that's a Glock and have 15rds makes for an excellent carry gun. I personally still prefer the Glock 43. I'd rather have 6 in a Glock 43 size firearm than 15 in a Glock 43x/48 sized firearm. I prefer concealability over capacity and in many cases power. That don't mean everyone else should do the same though. There are those rare occasions that more powerful rounds and more capacity are needed... so I appreciate people that carry larger, heavier, higher capacity firearms. To have a G43X or a G48 though, it's an excellent medium between size and capacity, just like the Hellcat Pro... except it's a Glock (which many people prefer). I think I'd prefer the Hellcat Pro myself though.
I agree. However, I did try the PSA dagger mags in my 43X and they work perfectly. Easily 400 flawless rounds through both mags I own. That being said, I have no issue carrying the 10 rounds and would make the same argument.
I know I am getting old when I want to see the whole table more than the guns:). When I am shooting Glocks in uspsa I carry a 48, 26, or 42 with factory mags and no reloads. Currently I am shooting Hk's, specifically my p30's, so I carry a p30sk with 10 plus one or a p30 with 17 plus one. I feel fine with any of those day to day. If I am traveling or going somewhere sketchy, Miami, Tampa, etc, I will bring the 15 plus one in my sk and and a reload for any gun. But day to day I don't worry too much about number of rounds, reliability and my draw are more important.
The only aftermarket mags I own are mec -gar mags for 1911's, one Tisas came with them original, the remainder are Kimber since that is the majority of what I have. S&W, Springfield, and Beretta are all OE mags. I prefer to carry a Shield or Shield Plus most often myself. Good point about what mags to stick with here, I do buy new firearms if I wish to have different capacity or features!
Got a PSA micro dagger mag for my 48 (didn't want to deal with a metal mag release) and its had zero issues with the few hundred rounds I've put through it. Still not gonna use it for carry though
It's quite the good looking gun, especially with that Miller precision grip. I would be pretty disappointed if I had the tune an extractor on a gun that expensive. I mean it's no big deal, it's not like it's hard, it's just the principle
You Simply Can’t Have Too Much Rounds Especially When You Have Multiple Attackers It’s Different From Shooting At The Range and Having A Charging Target Coming At You It Could Be Other People Who Is Also Shooting At You So Put That Into Play With Adrenaline Running No Amount Of Training Is Going To Stop That Adrenaline I Highly Doubt Anyone Will Even Remember To Use Their Sights Because Everything Is Going Happen Too Fast Of Course A Person Still Must Train To Learn Their Firearm But Rounds Does Matter You Never Know What Can Happen You Can Try To Avoid Altercations That Doesn’t Mean It Can’t Come Your Way As For Products Being Reliable You Simply Can’t Go Off What Other People Say If The Product Work For Them That’s Like People Bashing Certain Things That You Like That Didn’t As Long As It’s Reliable When Shooting It Shouldn’t Be A Problem and I’ve Seen You Use Multiple Aftermarket Springs and Extensions At The End Of The Day All These Things Have The Chance Of Failing Simply Carry What Works For You and Is Reliable Backup Magazines Is Always A Must
I would definitely trust an OEM magazine with a slightly lower capacity then taking the chances of using a aftermarket magazine of higher capacity with my EDC. I know my stock mags feed reliably.
Complains about non factory mags - proceeds to use Mag extenders modifying factory mags to non-factory. Most mags are made from 3rd party's, and I don't see anyone saying don't by Magpul mags. I mean maybe someone, but we don't talk about Jim.
Personally, I think the average person massively under estimates the skill needed to accurately shoot more than 10+1 rounds in a self defense encounter. As a recommendation I would say carry the smallest grip that you can manage under recoil. For some people anything smaller than 15+1 causes them to drop their pinky. Huge hands make shooting some guns quickly almost impossible. The under appreciated reason to carry less ammo is saving weight. 9mm ammo is around 0.4-0.5 oz per cartridge.
I agree with you and will not run after market magazines. Plus, I carry two spare mags, so I have 30 rounds with me. Spray and pray is for those who shoot with their gat sideways, lol.
10 rounds is more than enough in most places I stay in a not to great neighborhood and people be having extended mags with switches and all that. So maybe having 15 will just help in a worse case scenario
Honestly tho, i think subconsciously it feels like you need more capacity in the 43x/48 because the frames are on the large size for 10 rounds... 🤷🏼♂️
Never understand why some people like to modify their gun or car, just get something that is reliable and good enough in its stock form. It doesn’t make sense to me when someone buys a Glock, then change its sight, trigger, etc with aftermarket parts and the final cost goes up to $1000 and reliability goes down. Instead, buy a Shield Plus for EDC and a Canik Rival for range fun with that $1000.
IMO if you carry, you should always carry a spare mag in case of a mag failure or need for a tactical reload. So your G43X/48 set up will be at least 21 rounds.
What about multiple attackers. I would love to have a smaller options but my mitts are big. Compact is small as I can go. My compact is 15 plus 1. I tried an M&p shield in 9 and 40 and I kept accidentally dropping the mag while trying to discharge the firearm causing jamming problems and losing the mag. I tried to readjust my hands but ultimately same issue.
100% agree! Something people also miss when it comes to pocket pistols, as well. I want it slim and light for pocket carry! Having a 1.5 stack magazine defeats the whole point 🤦♂️
@@lolk4530 I think you posted under the wrong comment, as I wasn't speaking about the Glock 43x or 48 🤷♂️ I specifically said "pocket pistols". I don't even consider the two mentioned Glock models to be sub-compacts, let alone micros 😂
Shield Arms mags have been out for a while now. I’ve heard enough negative things to not trust them or spend the money on them. I use factory Glock mags in my G48 & any other Glock I might be carrying. Three 10s or two 15s for a G19.
A lot of y’all in the comments are missing his point smdh watch the video and listen to what he’s saying. If you gotta have more capacity, invest in factory mags, and stop buying aftermarket trash magazines. There are so many examples of failures due to trash mags. A lot of y’all are gonna wind up being victims, unable to defend yourselves when your gun jams.
So many options with more than 10 rounds a d still concealable. If you can carry 15 an conceal the same as you would with the 10rd then why not? Give yourself every advantage if you get in that situation
I'm not gonna say 10 isn't enough. However there are more than a few ccw options that have 12, 13, 15 rounds factory, with better texture, sights, trigger, optics mounts, etc, than a G43, so really this isn't an issue of 10, it's an issue of buying the wrong gun to begin with.
most self defense situation caught on video end up as a spray and pray situation. people be mag dumping and not ending the situation, somehow, especially the police.
The people who say 10+1 isn’t enough are these bored office Rambo types that imagine being jumped by random bad guys from an action movie that think they’re gonna turn into John Wick when it’s go time.
The Glock isn't competitive because of its grip size. And if you can regularly get a handgun with more than 10 , why not? Your argument is the same the revolver guys used to make, and now they have only a niche use case.
I will say I agree 11 rounds is enough. I carry a little 380 in my pocket with 10 rounds I don’t feel unarmed. Now here is we’re I disagree. If you wanna carry your 48 and then press it into a home defense gun I personally want more rounds I don’t do that personally I have a different pistol for that. But if someone on a budget or doesn’t want multiple pistols I can see that argument of wanting more rounds. I do run shield mags and I would normally agree on the aftermarket mags can’t trust them range only I have had issues with literally every manufacturer listed in this video pro mag being hands down the worst of the bunch followed up by ets. I haven’t had issues with my shield mags and I have 5 gen3’s. I bought two they worked well I bought a few more from the same store so many same batch except 1? I have tested them and I haven’t had any issues. That’s my experience if people say there having issues I would believe them why make it up but I would go on my experience over someone else’s. If you want to carry them test the hell out of them if there working for you go on with confidence if you have any issues don’t run them. The shield mags seem to be well made also again out of the 5 I own there holding up very well. Something else why I can see wanting more rounds cause I fit in this boat also glocks don’t fit my hand well could never shoot them well. Then the slim line was introduced that fit my hand very well and I know I’m not alone with people not liking the ergo’s of glock. So if it fits my hand I can shoot it very well it’s a glock it’s reliable I could see wanting to make it into a glock 19 of sorts. I have no skin in the game I’m one guy I just like guns but run your gun if it works for you carry it. I have read this online and heard it in a few videos but I’m not 100 percent but I have heard some of the issues could be the pistols themselves? Not like a traditional mistake but there are slight Variances in the pistols again I don’t know if it’s true?
There was no excuse to make the 43X 10+1 when it is easily capable of handling flush fit 15+1. Why carry that size when capacity could be improved on while staying within same size?
Guys, lets not just hear whats on the surface...he is NOT saying anything more than 15 rounds is too much, or bad or what ever...he is talking about OEM mags. Like not switching from a 10 round OEM mag to a 15 round, or whatever count AFTERMARKET mag that may be unreliable!!! Lets stay on point, damn, this is not a pissing contest! And yes...some of us HAVE been in gunfights, just not with a pistol, and not as a civillian. And we used OEM 30 round mags liaded with 28 rounds mind u....not the 30 it will hold. Yes im sure we would all rather take a belt fed crew served weapon with us into a fight, but hey...society right???!!!
Are shield arms mags really that bad? I just got into the conceal carry game and picked up a glock 43x and saw them so was wondering. Some of the other yt channels seem to like them.
The gun community has gotten too neurotic about muh capacity and muh stopping power and forgot about the most important aspect of self defense, confidence in your abilities and confidence in the reliability of the weapon.
Damn, if 10 isn't enough just carry a spare in the back pocket or whatever. It's less noticeable than carrying a Bic lighter for fire if that's part of your EDC in cold country.
Why not just vet your gear. I run s15 mags and I’ve put 1,500 rounds without an issue. If it doesn’t work with your gun, don’t run it. If it does. Awesome.
Having been in gunfights, you can never have too much ammo. 10 round capacity guns are for the states limiting capacity. I’d carry a 30 round magazine if it fit in my pocket. 😉
@@dustyd6617 lol 😂
Gun fights lmao what are you as cartel member shooting at other cartels. . You fool self defense in right I front of you and in a real self defense you only have time for a few shots . This isn’t a video game were your dicking taking cover behind cars shooting . You unload 15 rounds your getting life in prison
Since 17+1 became available! 😊
this part
Your Shield has Magguts. That’s no longer an OEM mag.
Agreed, a small reliable gun you can draw fast that works reliably with a round that delivers - first 3-4 rounds matter so much more than the last 3-4 rounds in your mag.
Your mindset is on one attacker! If you have 2 or more you're outgunned. In Vietnam it was all you could carry. Enter the M16 556 round.
Yeah he hasn't seen these migrant packs lurking around in the dark.
@@usoslow757 Must not live in a democrat city/state. lol.
@@deucedeuce1572no… they’re importing them into red areas in red states…do I have to explain why?
@@usoslow757I fear a fellow American more than a migrant.
If I carry 15 I carry i rather have it and not need it than. Than need it and not have it
All I’m saying is people need to stop using shield arms to get 15 rounds. Buy a new firearm
The point of the video is to only use the intended mag for the firearm. If you want more capacity then you just need to buy a different firearm than the 43x and 48! Respect
Roger that!
@@spnfirearms Thats the main thing that kept me from buying a g43x and g48 when I was looking at my first ccw instead I went with the sig 365 XL. Had everything I needed out of the box,.
I think you missed the point
10+1 is statistically enough, but if I can carry more without too much inconvenience, why not. With my aim, I need all the help I can get..LOL I'm even starting to think one firearm might not be enough..You just never know. I may have a split personality under stress, that is left handed. Took me a while to write this, I had to order a ambi-belly band..Now, I am prepared for anything..
“Switching to your secondary is faster than reloading”
- Captain Price
@@owl8435 Absolutely..
Used to carry the first gen Shield, too many rounds through it to count with 100% reliability (minus shooter error of course). Moved to the Shield+ as soon as it came out and again, lots of rounds through it with 100% reliability. I carry with the 10rd in the gun and a spare 13rd on my weak side hip and NEVER FEEL UNDER ARMED! Good video, it needs to be said that any mods made to your life saving tools are a gamble that some of us just aren't willing to take.
Shield plus is a great edc, it doesn’t need any mod. I still carry my Shield 2.0 with 7 rounds in gun and 8 rounds spare when I’m in a good neighborhood. When I’m in the hood or going on road trip, I carry higher capacity 9mm, Hellcat or M&P compact 2.0.
It's honestly pretty funny to watch people learn and develop as armed citizens as they gain some years of experience carrying. People start out wanting to feel like special forces operators or police with high capacity, weapon mounted lights, red dots, etc. Fast forward about ten years and most people are carrying either a mouse gun, slim 9mm, or a J-frame with no light, extra mags, or anything. People learn that having to expend more than 5 rounds at a range farther than a few yards is realistically not going to happen. Carry a tool for the job at hand. Most of us are civilians doing civilian things. 5+ rounds of ammunition in a reliable gun that is super comfortable to carry is good enough. If you are facing 4 armed attackers on your trip to the gas station, you don't need an extra magazine. You need backup (and to move to a new town).
I’ve been carrying 7+1 and 8+1 for the past 20yrs. I thankfully have yet to even have to brandish my firearm. Too many people are out here trying to live out their John Wick fantasies and refuse to leave the house with no less than a 15 round capacity pistol while carrying 3 backup mags.
I have many friends who are/were police officers in pretty violent cities, and neither one has had to fire a shot in the line of duty. Yet most of these UA-camrs will have you believe that they will encounter situations where they’ll have to take on 3 bad guys on the way to/from the gym and need 30+ rounds to defend themselves. 🤷🏼♂️
I’ve seen security footage of 3+ scholars hopping out and attacking/mugging people so I prefer to have extra if I’m downtown or somewhere not awesome to be.
John wick sounds more like a nightmare than a fantasy to me
Yeah that Hellcat Pro Comp is a game changer
Since other guns with similar reliability were available in 13+1 with the exact same size and lower price. No reason for a G48 over a Shield Plus frankly
Because kids think they're going to get in running gun fights with bank robbers like in movies.
Oh oh. Lots of feelings gonna be hurt w this one! 😅😂😂😂
I went through shield arms mags with nothing but issues. I went to psa mags and not 1. Tested them enough to trust, but always keep an oem 10 plus 1 in the 43x
10+1 hasn’t been enough since the 90’s
How many rounds did you need during your last self defense situation?
@@dominickvelezjr9171 LOL
@@dominickvelezjr9171 there is no right answer. The most you can carry effectively I guess.
Completed my glock collection today with finally getting a Glock 26. Got em all now, some duplicates of several generations after watching your videos over the past year about the 26
Awesome man, love to hear it! Keep it up respect!
Get x grip and you can carry 17 rd mag in the 26 comfortably
I know it doesn’t make all that match difference, but more rds is more weight. If you are trying to go as lite as possible it makes sense to go with fewer rds.
I mean if I’m going into the belly of the beast I want a full size pistol, light, red dot, 18 or 21 rds, etc. But if I just need something to put in the pocket of some shorts for a quick trip a single stack will likely do just fine.
Question, after market mags is frowned upon when it comes to pistols, but when purchasing rifles, for example, an AR-15, why is it ok to buy PMag Magpul mags? We’re not trying to only purchase the AR manufacturers mags. IJS.
I carry a Glock 43x with the oem mag, I bought shield arms mag for it and never personally had any problems, but I heard about the problems with them and that was enough distrust for me to switch back to oem mags. I dont feel like im at a disadvantage with it. Im still just as confident with it, if not more cuz i can fully trust a glock mag over aftermarket.
The biggest issue with the 43x/48 is the length being the same length as a 19. Because of this, assumptions were made to believe these guns would also be 15 round oem. When they weren't and the 43x was not the slimmer 26 shield arms offers with its grip chop, people got upset because expections were not met.
As far as capacity, gun size, and caliber to conceal carry, YOU (not the internet or guntubers (no offense spn) or anyone else) have to decide what is best for you. If your gun spends more time in the safe than on your person, its time find something you will carry everywhere
On my 26 I carry the standard mag with the Peirce grip extension I think 10 in a mag is decent but I always carry it in a sidecar holster with a spare Glock 19 mag it's perfect for me I think people just don't settle for the mag capacity due to all the restrictions in certain states
I had shield mags when I bought my 43X used. I traded them for stock 10 rd. I also worry about mag capacity at times but I remember once asking a county sheriff about capacity and he said “ I will tell you one thing when someone pulls a gun and starts shooting , no one counts shots they just get the hell out “.
I feel 11 rounds is sufficient !
sounds like fuddlore except the GenZ 9mm version, “its all about shot placement and if ya need more than 1 round its prolly cuz ya aint carryin a .45!”
Good morning. I carry a 5 shot wheel gun alot.
Yestery was Glock 19 and SP101.
G48 with factory mags way to go IMO. Hope you and your family are doing well. See ya.🇺🇲🌲🔥🔪
Great choices Man, all great. Respect
Good points my state has a 10 round capacity limit so this is fueling my delusion that 10 rounds is okay for me. Just picked up a canik sf elite but only can hold 10 rounds is annoying
It sucks living in Cali 😅
@@GMoney_213 washington is worse. everything is banned
If you’re in A firefight and need to reload you have bigger problems.
I traded my shield arms mags for two oem mags, 33 round mag, and cash for it. Definitely worth it in my opinion. I carry an extra mag so I feel very comfortable carrying my 48/43x. Plus oem mags are cheaper so you can stock up more of them.
Magpul 12rd is the only worthwhile aftermarket mag for Glock. Reliable and the only mag the sits right between 10rd flush and OEM 10+2 in terms of size
😅 Spn I respect you greatly brother! But it’s that but it’s always that scenario in the back of my head if I run into 3-4 dumb kids with Glocks with drums and extended magazines and a SWITCH. That’s not gonna retreat if I pull out 10 rounds… I carry extra mags but those extra 5 to 7 rounds can make a whole difference if you get into an actual gun fight.
I’ve seen far too many issues with shield arms mags being unreliable, if I carried a 43x/48 it would be factory OEM mags. That said my edc 99% of the time is my Ruger SP101 3” 327 Fed Mag and I have no concerns with those 6 rounds plus 2 speedloaders. The odd time I do carry a semi auto it’s an HK VP9SK but that will be replaced when my new HK CC9 arrives and I confirm its reliability. Even then it will be rarely carried.
I agree. My #1 carry is a stock Glock 43x. Now when the SHTF I have handgun that have 15 and 17 rounds stock as well.
This question is coming from a place of authenticity, as I'm really curious. I understand & appreciate the argument for OEM, what is escaping me is how the addition of + baseplates, particularly w/ no spring change, is not suseptible to the same argument?
It is, the OP just likes to try to be controversial
Thanks for your vid ! At the end, with your silver slide edc, you said you test everything in depth.
So why not take a set of shield mags, put like 1k rounds with each and then carry them ? (if no failure of course)
I see zero issues with running a reliable aftermarket magazine that you know and trust. If you are able to run 15 rounds in a 10 round gun that is absolutely a no brainer. While I personally am looking at the bodyguard 2.0 and the shield plus for my EDC I only run the OEM extended magazines when I carry it.
Side note, I dislike the Shield 1.0 and 2.0 because of the single stack magazine that causes the grip to feel very slim and not comfortable in my hand, so it's a win win to carry the plus.
43x is a good summertime gun. You notice a big difference in weight with 17rd mags with shorts. Macro is too heavy for Nike shorts
Hard agree. I'd never trade reliability for any sort of upgrade; capacity or otherwise.
Since there's been new options with the same or smaller size with MORE capacity, making these OBSOLETE.
Just a friendly reminder
People used to carry a 5 rdn revolvers for 100 years and didnt need more...😂
Many people used to carry pocket. 25acp and it worked well
@@xklocu1812 yeah I mean times have changed, everyone used to carry that back 100 years ago now the most popular handgun in the country is the Glock 19
Yeah, they carried extra ammo on their belts and pouches.
Yeah but people back then they also didn't have to worry about lunatics walking in public places with AR-15s and doing mass shootings. I started carrying just a few years ago because of the mass shootings and there have been plenty of instances where the shooters had to be shot up to even a dozen times before they went down. It is a fact that it's better to have it and not need it then to need it and not have it because you never know what kind of self-defense situation you might find yourself in. But I also got the point of SPN firearm's video, and that's to avoid certain aftermarket magazines, and not so much railing on higher capacity magazines in general.
I'm not against higher capacity. If I owned a gun as large as a Glock 43x and I could choose 10rds or 15rds, I would choose 15rds 100% of the time. Many people got their Glock 43x's and 48's before the Hellcat Pro came out and they like their guns and want to stick with them... and to have a gun that size that's a Glock and have 15rds makes for an excellent carry gun. I personally still prefer the Glock 43. I'd rather have 6 in a Glock 43 size firearm than 15 in a Glock 43x/48 sized firearm. I prefer concealability over capacity and in many cases power. That don't mean everyone else should do the same though. There are those rare occasions that more powerful rounds and more capacity are needed... so I appreciate people that carry larger, heavier, higher capacity firearms. To have a G43X or a G48 though, it's an excellent medium between size and capacity, just like the Hellcat Pro... except it's a Glock (which many people prefer). I think I'd prefer the Hellcat Pro myself though.
I agree. However, I did try the PSA dagger mags in my 43X and they work perfectly. Easily 400 flawless rounds through both mags I own. That being said, I have no issue carrying the 10 rounds and would make the same argument.
I have the PSA mags and 3 out of 7 had issues. Just and fyi for others. I still have them for range.
I know I am getting old when I want to see the whole table more than the guns:). When I am shooting Glocks in uspsa I carry a 48, 26, or 42 with factory mags and no reloads. Currently I am shooting Hk's, specifically my p30's, so I carry a p30sk with 10 plus one or a p30 with 17 plus one. I feel fine with any of those day to day. If I am traveling or going somewhere sketchy, Miami, Tampa, etc, I will bring the 15 plus one in my sk and and a reload for any gun. But day to day I don't worry too much about number of rounds, reliability and my draw are more important.
The only aftermarket mags I own are mec -gar mags for 1911's, one Tisas came with them original, the remainder are Kimber since that is the majority of what I have. S&W, Springfield, and Beretta are all OE mags. I prefer to carry a Shield or Shield Plus most often myself. Good point about what mags to stick with here, I do buy new firearms if I wish to have different capacity or features!
I only carry 100% stock Glocks, I polish the OEM triggers myself and only use OEM magazines and never had an issue! gen 5 Master Race =)
Got a PSA micro dagger mag for my 48 (didn't want to deal with a metal mag release) and its had zero issues with the few hundred rounds I've put through it. Still not gonna use it for carry though
I’ve got a psa micro dagger (43x clone) with their micro dagger mags that hold 15 and they work well.
The problem is the 43x is BIGGER than every 9mm that holds fewer than 12 in a standard mag
OEM all day.
Agreed. There is no other option!
💯 correct!!!
Washington resident , it would be nice to have the ability to carry more then just 10 rds
Move one state over, no restrictions here =)
It's quite the good looking gun, especially with that Miller precision grip. I would be pretty disappointed if I had the tune an extractor on a gun that expensive. I mean it's no big deal, it's not like it's hard, it's just the principle
My understanding is the higher capacity is training focused rather than “needing more in my EDC”.
You Simply Can’t Have Too Much Rounds Especially When You Have Multiple Attackers It’s Different From Shooting At The Range and Having A Charging Target Coming At You It Could Be Other People Who Is Also Shooting At You So Put That Into Play With Adrenaline Running No Amount Of Training Is Going To Stop That Adrenaline I Highly Doubt Anyone Will Even Remember To Use Their Sights Because Everything Is Going Happen Too Fast Of Course A Person Still Must Train To Learn Their Firearm But Rounds Does Matter You Never Know What Can Happen You Can Try To Avoid Altercations That Doesn’t Mean It Can’t Come Your Way As For Products Being Reliable You Simply Can’t Go Off What Other People Say If The Product Work For Them That’s Like People Bashing Certain Things That You Like That Didn’t As Long As It’s Reliable When Shooting It Shouldn’t Be A Problem and I’ve Seen You Use Multiple Aftermarket Springs and Extensions At The End Of The Day All These Things Have The Chance Of Failing Simply Carry What Works For You and Is Reliable Backup Magazines Is Always A Must
I would definitely trust an OEM magazine with a slightly lower capacity then taking the chances of using a aftermarket magazine of higher capacity with my EDC. I know my stock mags feed reliably.
Complains about non factory mags - proceeds to use Mag extenders modifying factory mags to non-factory. Most mags are made from 3rd party's, and I don't see anyone saying don't by Magpul mags. I mean maybe someone, but we don't talk about Jim.
Yeah I can’t understand why people get a Glock and don’t use OEM mags. The whole reason you get a Glock is for the legendary reliability.
Personally, I think the average person massively under estimates the skill needed to accurately shoot more than 10+1 rounds in a self defense encounter. As a recommendation I would say carry the smallest grip that you can manage under recoil. For some people anything smaller than 15+1 causes them to drop their pinky. Huge hands make shooting some guns quickly almost impossible.
The under appreciated reason to carry less ammo is saving weight. 9mm ammo is around 0.4-0.5 oz per cartridge.
I agree I run my g48 with 2 mags total and g26 with ten rounds g26 I keep a 12 round mag oem with a +2 in my side car I feel safe
I agree with you and will not run after market magazines. Plus, I carry two spare mags, so I have 30 rounds with me. Spray and pray is for those who shoot with their gat sideways, lol.
I don’t think that it’s “not enough” it’s just that it lacks in capacity in comparison to other guns of similar size
10 rounds is more than enough in most places I stay in a not to great neighborhood and people be having extended mags with switches and all that. So maybe having 15 will just help in a worse case scenario
Honestly tho, i think subconsciously it feels like you need more capacity in the 43x/48 because the frames are on the large size for 10 rounds... 🤷🏼♂️
I carry 6+1 of 380 every single day! No complaints here! 😂
8+1 in my Bersa 👍😅
Since states don’t alow more the 10 round capacity that’s when 🗣️🗣️
Never understand why some people like to modify their gun or car, just get something that is reliable and good enough in its stock form. It doesn’t make sense to me when someone buys a Glock, then change its sight, trigger, etc with aftermarket parts and the final cost goes up to $1000 and reliability goes down. Instead, buy a Shield Plus for EDC and a Canik Rival for range fun with that $1000.
IMO if you carry, you should always carry a spare mag in case of a mag failure or need for a tactical reload. So your G43X/48 set up will be at least 21 rounds.
What about multiple attackers. I would love to have a smaller options but my mitts are big. Compact is small as I can go. My compact is 15 plus 1. I tried an M&p shield in 9 and 40 and I kept accidentally dropping the mag while trying to discharge the firearm causing jamming problems and losing the mag. I tried to readjust my hands but ultimately same issue.
100% agree!
Something people also miss when it comes to pocket pistols, as well. I want it slim and light for pocket carry! Having a 1.5 stack magazine defeats the whole point 🤦♂️
No it doesn't. The Shield Arms mags do not increase the width of the glock 43X at all.
@@lolk4530 I think you posted under the wrong comment, as I wasn't speaking about the Glock 43x or 48 🤷♂️
I specifically said "pocket pistols". I don't even consider the two mentioned Glock models to be sub-compacts, let alone micros 😂
Shield Arms mags have been out for a while now. I’ve heard enough negative things to not trust them or spend the money on them. I use factory Glock mags in my G48 & any other Glock I might be carrying. Three 10s or two 15s for a G19.
My state has a ten round restriction and never have I felt as if I didn't have enough. I also carry a spare so rocking with 20 rounds if needed
A lot of y’all in the comments are missing his point smdh watch the video and listen to what he’s saying.
If you gotta have more capacity, invest in factory mags, and stop buying aftermarket trash magazines. There are so many examples of failures due to trash mags. A lot of y’all are gonna wind up being victims, unable to defend yourselves when your gun jams.
Since mostly peaceful riots became fashionable.
Nailed it with this video.
So many options with more than 10 rounds a d still concealable. If you can carry 15 an conceal the same as you would with the 10rd then why not? Give yourself every advantage if you get in that situation
I'm not gonna say 10 isn't enough. However there are more than a few ccw options that have 12, 13, 15 rounds factory, with better texture, sights, trigger, optics mounts, etc, than a G43, so really this isn't an issue of 10, it's an issue of buying the wrong gun to begin with.
If you’re going off stats we should all either not carry or go back to 5-6 round capacity lol. I love my j frames.
I remember the 6 shot wheel guns with speed loaders, glad the 10, 12, 15 or so have come out
I like the green grip texture on the Glock 26. What is the brand?
How often do you recommend cleaning your carry gun?
Give it a wipe down after every range session. Get to know your weapon. Love it 🥰
Since April 29, 1992. Ask the rooftop Koreans. Great people.
...but how do you feel about another company's OEM in your Glock, like a PSA Micro Dagger Mag for instance?
I personally rock a PSA for my 43x, it works great so far. No issues
most self defense situation caught on video end up as a spray and pray situation. people be mag dumping and not ending the situation, somehow, especially the police.
The people who say 10+1 isn’t enough are these bored office Rambo types that imagine being jumped by random bad guys from an action movie that think they’re gonna turn into John Wick when it’s go time.
Facts
Exactly! lol
What is much more important is to hit first and fast. So your first rounds count not your last!😉
What are your thoughts on the micro dagger mags? I have 2 and they run good
Got a 43x and dagger micro with original glock mags and psa dagger 15 rd mags they both work well
James Yeager agreed with you about OEM Glock magazines.
Love the content! Keep it up!
Since the yn’s have started carrying 50 and 100 round drums and four guns deep inside of a stolen hellcat
I'd rather know I have 10 than hope I have 15.
I'm gonna really mess with the comments section with this one. My edc is a P-229 in .357SIG. 12 rounds of 125gn HST heat.
The Glock isn't competitive because of its grip size. And if you can regularly get a handgun with more than 10 , why not? Your argument is the same the revolver guys used to make, and now they have only a niche use case.
The more rounds you carry, the more weight, I only carry 9 rounds in my 43x
I will say I agree 11 rounds is enough. I carry a little 380 in my pocket with 10 rounds I don’t feel unarmed. Now here is we’re I disagree. If you wanna carry your 48 and then press it into a home defense gun I personally want more rounds I don’t do that personally I have a different pistol for that. But if someone on a budget or doesn’t want multiple pistols I can see that argument of wanting more rounds. I do run shield mags and I would normally agree on the aftermarket mags can’t trust them range only I have had issues with literally every manufacturer listed in this video pro mag being hands down the worst of the bunch followed up by ets. I haven’t had issues with my shield mags and I have 5 gen3’s. I bought two they worked well I bought a few more from the same store so many same batch except 1? I have tested them and I haven’t had any issues. That’s my experience if people say there having issues I would believe them why make it up but I would go on my experience over someone else’s. If you want to carry them test the hell out of them if there working for you go on with confidence if you have any issues don’t run them. The shield mags seem to be well made also again out of the 5 I own there holding up very well. Something else why I can see wanting more rounds cause I fit in this boat also glocks don’t fit my hand well could never shoot them well. Then the slim line was introduced that fit my hand very well and I know I’m not alone with people not liking the ergo’s of glock. So if it fits my hand I can shoot it very well it’s a glock it’s reliable I could see wanting to make it into a glock 19 of sorts. I have no skin in the game I’m one guy I just like guns but run your gun if it works for you carry it. I have read this online and heard it in a few videos but I’m not 100 percent but I have heard some of the issues could be the pistols themselves? Not like a traditional mistake but there are slight Variances in the pistols again I don’t know if it’s true?
There was no excuse to make the 43X 10+1 when it is easily capable of handling flush fit 15+1. Why carry that size when capacity could be improved on while staying within same size?
Guys, lets not just hear whats on the surface...he is NOT saying anything more than 15 rounds is too much, or bad or what ever...he is talking about OEM mags. Like not switching from a 10 round OEM mag to a 15 round, or whatever count AFTERMARKET mag that may be unreliable!!! Lets stay on point, damn, this is not a pissing contest!
And yes...some of us HAVE been in gunfights, just not with a pistol, and not as a civillian. And we used OEM 30 round mags liaded with 28 rounds mind u....not the 30 it will hold. Yes im sure we would all rather take a belt fed crew served weapon with us into a fight, but hey...society right???!!!
I see a lot of military guys say carry 28 or 29 and not 30. What’s the reasoning? Reliability?
thats why I choose the micro dagger
😂
Good points my man
Are shield arms mags really that bad? I just got into the conceal carry game and picked up a glock 43x and saw them so was wondering. Some of the other yt channels seem to like them.
The gun community has gotten too neurotic about muh capacity and muh stopping power and forgot about the most important aspect of self defense, confidence in your abilities and confidence in the reliability of the weapon.
Thats what i did.sold my 48 for a hellcat pro; an my 17 for a echelon. i had to my prodigy runs to good not to have did it... def upgrades
Damn, if 10 isn't enough just carry a spare in the back pocket or whatever. It's less noticeable than carrying a Bic lighter for fire if that's part of your EDC in cold country.
Why not just vet your gear. I run s15 mags and I’ve put 1,500 rounds without an issue. If it doesn’t work with your gun, don’t run it. If it does. Awesome.