I've had the Mongar a few years now and what you used is about what I do, foil on the bottom, a picnic blanket, sleeping mat, a Trekology, (hate the footpump things), but recently also picked up a double pad, R3.2... Tiny USB pump, fits perfectly in the Mongar. Decent slug and if need be a camp blanket. Never had a problem. They are a better tent than given credit for. Well done that man.
I have a Monger 2 and in my experience the closer to the ground the flysheet is the less draughts will find their way into the tent. Also its great to see a tent like this being used in the snow, well done for that.
@@outdoorgaz5 In weather like that and cold wind the solid inner will make a big difference also more ground insulation, I just use one of those foil backed foam roll mats and one of the foam filled self inflating mats, not as much comfort but warmer for sure I might buy a decent thermarest for next winter.
Just got back from a two-day mountain camping trip and it was incredible! Watching this video brings back all the amazing memories. Can't wait to plan my next adventure!
I have this tent, its brilliant, me and the Mrs are off to Mallorca in September doing the Tramantana range. The mesh inner eill be perfect. Excellent video mate 👍
I love my mongar 2, I've a few naturehike tents that I've used through winters, just need to layer up. The Mongar gives you plenty of room & reasonably stable in the wind. Great vid👍
I have the Mongar 2 and really love the ability to set up fly-first and break down inner first like you did here. It's a great feature for rainy days. This tent certainly isn't designed for winter camping, but I've always been curious about how I'd like this tent in the winter months.
That inflatable pad would better serve you under the reflective and blanket layers as it reduces heat loss from conduction. Having it under the reflector and blanket would reduce convective loss through the pad making it the overall better stack. That mesh will help with reducing some condensation close in, but you will still get a lot on the fly. Cheers!
I came here to say this. It seems counter-intuitive (because everything you read says r-values are cumulative), but having the reflective insulation as close to the heat source definitely improves its effectiveness. I just used to whack mine as the layer I slept on tbh. The slidiness is fine when wearing base layers, too. And yeah, we in the UK do seem massively obsessed with solid inners and the assumption that 20d polyester taffeta will act like triple glazing 😂. It adds a couple of degrees at best, but the problem with that is that warmer air holds more moisture so as the other guy says, much more likely to get a wet inner.
I tried with 0.8cm foam mat under and didn't get warm in half an hour. Then I placed it on top and near instant relief. R values stack is a myth. I tried it out with my friends Vaude pad while he was snoring away on my Xtherm. Lol.
Came here to say the same. Saw a study that showed the closer the foil is to your body, the warmer you’ll be. Just received my mongar 2. Can’t wait to try it out. Lovely video.
Loved the video man, I have the same tent and can't want to try it out in colder weather. I agree with everything you said about things like the cold can just make you get up earlier and experience the stars or an awesome sunrise.
As babies, we were routinely wrapped up warmly, put in our prams and the pram would be put outside under shelter, in the understanding that a) we would benefit from the cold but fresh air, and b) we would come to no harm from the cold per se. The fact that the inner tent is mesh rather than solid is to my mind no disadvantage, and will help with condensation build up, or at least its removal to the inside of the fly sheet, where it is supposed to be. Love my Mongar, it’s a very underrated tent in my view. 🖐🏻🏴
@@outdoorgaz5 it’s possible to buy a generic 4 season inner for your Mongar, from 3F UL via Ali, FYI. Of course you might want another whole tent, but this is an option. 👍🏻
@@michaelnicholson1817 links get taken down, but here goes: www.google.com/search?q=3f+ul+floating+cloud+4+season+inner&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari
@@michaelnicholson1817 3F UL Floating Cloud 4 season inner will get it, but tbh if you’re after a decent 4 season tent (with a skirt that comes further down and better wind resistance then for the £40 or so more you’re better off with the Asta Gear Crescent 2 in 4 season with 20D fly and 40D bathtub. OTOH, if you want a ‘warmer’ inner for 3 seasons for the Mongar then you can try the above, but tbh a 3FUL tyvek sleeping bag outer and silk liner inner for a decent sleeping bag plus a down balaclava would be better, as the ventilation advantages of the 3 season inner outweigh any perceived gains from inside the tent ‘draught reduction’, especially when condensation is a ‘thing’ like it often is here in the UK HTH 😊🖐🏻🏴
Clod peak 2 is great for winter. Very strong when put together properly. I've had it in super strong winds without guylines and it still handled the wind. I definitely don't recommend it, though, it was very scary 😂😂 I'd go for the cloud peak 2 fir winter. I'm buying a mongar 2 for spring summer. I've seen many reviews, and there seems to be a draft that will be better in Warner weather. I could honestly live in my cloud peak 2. Loads of space 👍👍👍
Love the dark color of your Mongar 2, i wasn't that lucky, the only color available here was that almost white grey (a real annoyance to sleep on a full moon night) The only problem i had with mine was our winds (60-80 Kph are normal) so i did some mods to mine to cope with that during the colder months. Other than that, it could be a bit higher, but no real complains
@@outdoorgaz5 added a sort of skirt over the mesh. There is a video in my channel about it. The results were great, can be improved a bit further, but i am satisfied enough
I recently got the mongar and I'm having difficulty attaching the fly to the sideways facing pole at the top, using the little red aluminium hardware. With one side in, I'm having to pull the fly with quite a lot of force in order to attach it to the opposite side. If the fly's been tied to the poles in the middle it's pretty much impossible. I understand that the fly is supposed to be tight, but it just feels wrong and I'm having fears of ripping something. Is this how it's supposed to be or could there be a problem? Thank you.
I set mine with the cross-pole on top, the poles just seems stronger that way. Without a doubt, attaching that clip is the toughest of the whole process. I'm glad i haven't needed to do it in the cold.
I like it thanks for the review. I want to go to the Sierras, and on occasion it can snow or icy dew. What's your bag rated to? I was thinking of using two 20F degree bags. I like that it has two doors. How does it compare with other nature hike 3 season tents? I was thinking of getting a propane adaptor for my isobutate mini stove, what do you think? both available in california.
@@Frank020 Hi Frank, I was using a zero degree celsius bag. I've since upgraded my sleeping pad which is where you will lose most of your heat so I would invest in a decent pad. You can get a cab of extreme weather gas for your burner which should be fine. Hope you have a great adventure.
dose anyone know if the msr elixir 2 inner shell will fit in the monger 2 frame and outer shell as ive got the mongar 2 but i find the inner layer can be very drafty
im thinking about getting myself this tent. However I was wondering, with the whole mesh walls does much wind get under the doors and into the tent?? I really cannot decide between the mongar 2 and star river 2 (star river has less mesh on the doors). THANKS!
The Mongar 2 will let some air in but no condensation is great in the summer and spring months. Probably ask yourself how often you winter camp and decide from there. Thanks for watching.
I too am stuck between these two tents. If the Star river had these doors I'd get it... but still undecided. Which did you get and how is it??? thank you.
It was a cold night but managed it's not as drafty as people say. Thanks for the kind words I'm glad you enjoyed it. Video of me getting the van down should be ready on Sunday.
@@outdoorgaz5 one of my tents is the Bobcat1 which is a fine budget tent but it has a mesh at the top of the inner door which doesn’t half let some cold in. It’d be better if the introduced another zip with another layer of material to enclose you in more. Great tent though.
First day of Spring? That is 20th March 2024. Instead of a conventional hot water bottle try using a Nalgene water bottle. They will accept boiling water. Put it between your upper thighs.
@@outdoorgaz5 the seasons change with the equinox. On 20th March the day and night will be equal. Until 20/21 September (the first day of Autumn) the day will be longer that night and once Autumn begins the night shall be longer than the day. Seasons behind/ end 20/21, March, June, September and December. 21 June is start of summer and the longest day, 21st December is start of winter and the shortest day. It’s all about where the sun is in relation to wherever you are on the planet.
See how I got the van down here: ua-cam.com/video/eMAw6AtQktM/v-deo.html
I've had the Mongar a few years now and what you used is about what I do, foil on the bottom, a picnic blanket, sleeping mat, a Trekology, (hate the footpump things), but recently also picked up a double pad, R3.2... Tiny USB pump, fits perfectly in the Mongar. Decent slug and if need be a camp blanket. Never had a problem. They are a better tent than given credit for. Well done that man.
I'll have to look into a new pad with a higher rating. Thanks for commenting.
I have a Monger 2 and in my experience the closer to the ground the flysheet is the less draughts will find their way into the tent. Also its great to see a tent like this being used in the snow, well done for that.
I think I'm going to buy a 4 season tent just to feel the difference. It was a cold night but I was well prepped. Thanks Richard.
@@outdoorgaz5 In weather like that and cold wind the solid inner will make a big difference also more ground insulation, I just use one of those foil backed foam roll mats and one of the foam filled self inflating mats, not as much comfort but warmer for sure I might buy a decent thermarest for next winter.
Just got back from a two-day mountain camping trip and it was incredible! Watching this video brings back all the amazing memories. Can't wait to plan my next adventure!
I love the snow, it just makes me feel good. So glad you enjoyed it happy camping.
I have this tent, its brilliant, me and the Mrs are off to Mallorca in September doing the Tramantana range. The mesh inner eill be perfect. Excellent video mate 👍
Thanks I'm glad you enjoyed it. That sounds like an amazing trip and yeah the stars through the mesh will be amazing.
I love my mongar 2,
I've a few naturehike tents that I've used through winters, just need to layer up.
The Mongar gives you plenty of room & reasonably stable in the wind.
Great vid👍
Yeah I agree such a good tent at the price. Thanks for watching.
Off on the Herriot way after Easter in my mongar 2…feeling a bit more confident about the cold after watching that Gaz. thanks
Lovely white adventure. Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks, the video of me getting the van down should be out on Sunday.
this was a pleasure to watch great to see you out there enjoying the elements and who doesn't love a hot water bottle on a camp ! ATB Subscribed !
The hot water bottle was definitely needed. Thanks for your kind words the follow up video of me getting the van down should be ready on Sunday.
I have the Mongar 2 and really love the ability to set up fly-first and break down inner first like you did here. It's a great feature for rainy days.
This tent certainly isn't designed for winter camping, but I've always been curious about how I'd like this tent in the winter months.
@@yamamancha for the UK it's fine but if the snow was really coming down it wouldn't support the weight.
That inflatable pad would better serve you under the reflective and blanket layers as it reduces heat loss from conduction. Having it under the reflector and blanket would reduce convective loss through the pad making it the overall better stack. That mesh will help with reducing some condensation close in, but you will still get a lot on the fly. Cheers!
Thats great advice thabk you.
I came here to say this. It seems counter-intuitive (because everything you read says r-values are cumulative), but having the reflective insulation as close to the heat source definitely improves its effectiveness. I just used to whack mine as the layer I slept on tbh. The slidiness is fine when wearing base layers, too.
And yeah, we in the UK do seem massively obsessed with solid inners and the assumption that 20d polyester taffeta will act like triple glazing 😂.
It adds a couple of degrees at best, but the problem with that is that warmer air holds more moisture so as the other guy says, much more likely to get a wet inner.
@@shabingly Great comment. I will be using the foil as a top layer next time.
I tried with 0.8cm foam mat under and didn't get warm in half an hour. Then I placed it on top and near instant relief.
R values stack is a myth.
I tried it out with my friends Vaude pad while he was snoring away on my Xtherm. Lol.
Came here to say the same. Saw a study that showed the closer the foil is to your body, the warmer you’ll be.
Just received my mongar 2. Can’t wait to try it out. Lovely video.
This video has convinced me to pickup the Mongar. Love your vids really cool stuff!
@@Mondinosaur It's a great tent, thanks for the kind words, glad you're enjoying the videos.
Loved the video man, I have the same tent and can't want to try it out in colder weather. I agree with everything you said about things like the cold can just make you get up earlier and experience the stars or an awesome sunrise.
@@OlePaddy I hope you enjoy it. Thanks for commenting.
As babies, we were routinely wrapped up warmly, put in our prams and the pram would be put outside under shelter, in the understanding that a) we would benefit from the cold but fresh air, and b) we would come to no harm from the cold per se. The fact that the inner tent is mesh rather than solid is to my mind no disadvantage, and will help with condensation build up, or at least its removal to the inside of the fly sheet, where it is supposed to be. Love my Mongar, it’s a very underrated tent in my view. 🖐🏻🏴
Another person who really loves their Mongar. I agree I don't feel a draft but I'm still yet to try a 4 season tent. Thanks for the comment.
@@outdoorgaz5 it’s possible to buy a generic 4 season inner for your Mongar, from 3F UL via Ali, FYI. Of course you might want another whole tent, but this is an option. 👍🏻
Hello thanks for letting me know as I got monger 2 the same as gaz. Do you have link to it please.
@@michaelnicholson1817 links get taken down, but here goes: www.google.com/search?q=3f+ul+floating+cloud+4+season+inner&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-gb&client=safari
@@michaelnicholson1817 3F UL Floating Cloud 4 season inner will get it, but tbh if you’re after a decent 4 season tent (with a skirt that comes further down and better wind resistance then for the £40 or so more you’re better off with the Asta Gear Crescent 2 in 4 season with 20D fly and 40D bathtub. OTOH, if you want a ‘warmer’ inner for 3 seasons for the Mongar then you can try the above, but tbh a 3FUL tyvek sleeping bag outer and silk liner inner for a decent sleeping bag plus a down balaclava would be better, as the ventilation advantages of the 3 season inner outweigh any perceived gains from inside the tent ‘draught reduction’, especially when condensation is a ‘thing’ like it often is here in the UK HTH 😊🖐🏻🏴
I also have a mongar tent like this, but I have customized the inner from full mesh to half mesh
Sounds good, can you feel the difference?
I'd be interested in hearing how you did that!
With custom half mesh, being inside the tent feels warmer, because the wind doesn't come in directly
I took the tent to a tent repairman
@@streglofNow Naturehike produces Mongar 2 PRO, it is half mesh, half fabric.
Great video! Love you positive, wholesome energy. This was the video I needed to make a final purchase decision on the mongar 2 - thank you!!
Thank you for the kind words. So glad I could help.
nice one, all the best from Serbia
Thanks for watching, hi from the UK
Great video. I'm torn between the Mongar 2 and the Cloudpeak 2.
Thanks Bob. Well I can't comment on the Cloudpeak 2 but the Mongar 2 is amazing at the price.
Clod peak 2 is great for winter. Very strong when put together properly. I've had it in super strong winds without guylines and it still handled the wind. I definitely don't recommend it, though, it was very scary 😂😂 I'd go for the cloud peak 2 fir winter. I'm buying a mongar 2 for spring summer. I've seen many reviews, and there seems to be a draft that will be better in Warner weather. I could honestly live in my cloud peak 2. Loads of space 👍👍👍
@@Three_Lions-1986 Thanks for sharing I might have to get myself a cloud peak.
@outdoorgaz5 no problem. Thanks for the video. Your video actually sealed the deal for me buying a mongar 2, so cheers 👍
Love the dark color of your Mongar 2, i wasn't that lucky, the only color available here was that almost white grey (a real annoyance to sleep on a full moon night) The only problem i had with mine was our winds (60-80 Kph are normal) so i did some mods to mine to cope with that during the colder months. Other than that, it could be a bit higher, but no real complains
What Mods did you make? Shame about the colour but you could always put a tarp over. Thanks for watching.
@@outdoorgaz5 added a sort of skirt over the mesh. There is a video in my channel about it. The results were great, can be improved a bit further, but i am satisfied enough
@@acamparargentina Cool I'll check out your channel.
Nice video and thanks for sharing. I am trying to find out whether to get this or the star river. I got the cloud up for motor biking trips.
@@wigevi I've not tried the Star River. Thanks for watching
I recently got the mongar and I'm having difficulty attaching the fly to the sideways facing pole at the top, using the little red aluminium hardware. With one side in, I'm having to pull the fly with quite a lot of force in order to attach it to the opposite side. If the fly's been tied to the poles in the middle it's pretty much impossible. I understand that the fly is supposed to be tight, but it just feels wrong and I'm having fears of ripping something. Is this how it's supposed to be or could there be a problem? Thank you.
@@primaats Try setting it up with the top pole under the others it may give you more room.
I set mine with the cross-pole on top, the poles just seems stronger that way. Without a doubt, attaching that clip is the toughest of the whole process. I'm glad i haven't needed to do it in the cold.
I like it thanks for the review. I want to go to the Sierras, and on occasion it can snow or icy dew. What's your bag rated to? I was thinking of using two 20F degree bags. I like that it has two doors. How does it compare with other nature hike 3 season tents? I was thinking of getting a propane adaptor for my isobutate mini stove, what do you think? both available in california.
@@Frank020 Hi Frank, I was using a zero degree celsius bag. I've since upgraded my sleeping pad which is where you will lose most of your heat so I would invest in a decent pad. You can get a cab of extreme weather gas for your burner which should be fine. Hope you have a great adventure.
Video looking good
Thanks Cam
nice tent sir, nice review
Thank you.
Great days are those days before and after a camp
I agree, the prep is always fun I can't wait to get my bag packed and when returning home you appreciate everything a little more.
@@outdoorgaz5 that's the ticket , I just subbed your channel .
You might be interested In a method I use for ground insulation ,
dose anyone know if the msr elixir 2 inner shell will fit in the monger 2 frame and outer shell as ive got the mongar 2 but i find the inner layer can be very drafty
Sorry I don't know the answer to that but I have just upgraded to the cloud up 2 and that has less mesh inside. It is also smaller than the mongar 2.
im thinking about getting myself this tent. However I was wondering, with the whole mesh walls does much wind get under the doors and into the tent??
I really cannot decide between the mongar 2 and star river 2 (star river has less mesh on the doors). THANKS!
The Mongar 2 will let some air in but no condensation is great in the summer and spring months. Probably ask yourself how often you winter camp and decide from there. Thanks for watching.
@@outdoorgaz5 thanks for the reply, very much appreciate it
I too am stuck between these two tents. If the Star river had these doors I'd get it... but still undecided. Which did you get and how is it??? thank you.
@@Phateach13 i got the northface storm break 2 in the end. its F*cking awesome. absolutely love it. would recommend it
I'm amazed that most YT campers don't seem to take a hot water bottle with them on their adventures.
Haha I feel the same. They make such a difference. Thanks for watching
Enjoyed that Gaz. Great video. How did you find the mesh inner of the Mongar with the colder weather? Cheers. New sub here. 🙂
It was a cold night but managed it's not as drafty as people say. Thanks for the kind words I'm glad you enjoyed it. Video of me getting the van down should be ready on Sunday.
@@outdoorgaz5 one of my tents is the Bobcat1 which is a fine budget tent but it has a mesh at the top of the inner door which doesn’t half let some cold in. It’d be better if the introduced another zip with another layer of material to enclose you in more. Great tent though.
would you recommend this tent for a 6ft4 camper ?
@@MacCa-18 Possibly, I think when you're that tall you may have to go at a slight angle in most lightweight tents.
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@@outdoorgaz5 untuk cuaca extrem 4 musim negara saya hanya 3 musim
@@sigitsusanto780 Di dalam bisa sedikit berangin. Terima kasih telah menonton.
@@outdoorgaz5 ya sebenernya cukup dengan sleeping bag yang hangat dan nyaman jaket bulu , sudah cukup aman..
I’m sure it forcast it 😂 another UA-cam drama title
First day of Spring? That is 20th March 2024.
Instead of a conventional hot water bottle try using a Nalgene water bottle. They will accept boiling water. Put it between your upper thighs.
Oh I'm sure on the day I heard it was the first day of spring. I prefer the flexibility of a hot water bottle. Thanks for watching
@@outdoorgaz5 the seasons change with the equinox. On 20th March the day and night will be equal. Until 20/21 September (the first day of Autumn) the day will be longer that night and once Autumn begins the night shall be longer than the day.
Seasons behind/ end 20/21, March, June, September and December. 21 June is start of summer and the longest day, 21st December is start of winter and the shortest day. It’s all about where the sun is in relation to wherever you are on the planet.