EU4 An Opening Strategy as England - Rule Britannia
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- This is a 'cheesy' opening I find very strong in the current patch of EU4 for England.
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Instructions unclear, formed russa
hmm, what is russa? never heard of it man. Is it a cool nation to form in new dlc Dharma? or somethin? or a secret nation to form? can you tell me more?
r/wooosh
exactly
@@neighbourpl7317 it's communist
jk I know it's rep.
Instructions unclear got vassalized by scotland
Points for being Canon, bro.
@@Marane8 kinda true
"If you've ever played as England before, you know that it's pretty *tough to beat England* in the beginning of the campaign because they've got mainland Europe"
To be fair, he is unintentionally correct. A civil war like the War of the Roses is England fighting itself.
Aye, but, in the game, it's England fighting stacks of rebels.
of english descend!
oh em gee someone misspoke on online, horror of horrors
whatcha you on about
me: *tries this strategy*
game: *Scotland doesn't mothball fort*
game: *Scotland allies Livonian Order, which is just plain annoying*
game: *France fights my entire army while I'm sieging Paris, wiping it instantly*
gg no re
Harry Timmons first one: try again
second one: weird that probably shouldn’t happen again
third one: if they attacked you while you were sieging the fort then they will count as the defender. I would recommend rerolling till you get a good general or just wait until frances war exhaustion and surged provinces are high in another war so they won’t join on scotland’s side
@@lot2973 this happens all times, I've tried at least 5 times
scotland reactivate the fort when England got the casus belli
livonian order comes in to help
the irish minor conquers Pale immediately and Scottish Army gains free hand in the Isles because I'm stuck sieging the fort in east march
I wasn't able to hunt any transports
I got wiped by Scottish, Livonian and Irish troops
Everyone get their navy on the channel to hunt mine
Leonardo Camargo ... I don’t know how to help u man
Harry Timmons , my variation , release Normandy , Move all of my troops to invade France, Declare on Scotland , Get Access , Invade Paris with every Troop that I have , White Peace , bring Army back to England with the goal to make Scotland a Vassal
If u rival scotland they will activate the firt so do it the month u attack
very nice opening, but instead of raising all that autonomy I'd probably just buy 2-3 mercs
Yea just take out loans and merc up, money is just money there will be more of it.
Mercs take time to spawn, the joy of autonomy is it is instant, which means you get the mission 1 day into the campaign.
doesn't make much of a difference I think since you gotta wait a month to attack anyway.
I'd say that the exploitation was about lowering max manpower since you need to have 60% of it for the mission
I d rather avoid lowering development and autonomy as much as possible by demanding man power from nobles and taking mercs. + I believe it will be more worth to take and release Scotland iirc it allows you avoid "force vasalization" penalty. Plus, ofc need to make allies and improve other subject opinion before taking France and Scotland.
Island of mann opening move plz
Just watch florryworry
Step 1: open EU4 and select Mann
Step 2: Cry
There, quick and easy guide.
1. Release Mann as a subject.
2. Go to war with someone who owns 2+ forts.
3. Take the forts, give them to Mann
4. Pay off debt constantly until Mann has -1000% liberty desire
5. Grant all your land to Mann, then take it back (make sure they have cores).
6. Integrate Mann
7. Release and play as Mann (with all of England's land)
They need to be full cores just in case you fuck up. That's how I got the Welsh achievement but instead of integrating them I declared war on them and full annexed them.
I'd say: release Mann, vassle feed ireland and scotland, and then reintegrate and release and play
>be me
>attempt 1: tried to sell the same ship to three different countries
>attempt 2: forgot to move my troops to Westmarch after declaring war, they stood there in Cumbria for 10 days
>attempt 3: forgot to enable scutage for my vassals, they got sieged down by the French
>attempt 4:
Attempt 4: Rewatched the video and took notes?
Ya I did it, then my vassals turned against me
First attempt: Stackwiped and Plantangent died after I failed to realize half the Scottish army was aboard the fleet I just beat as it retreated to the capital I had sieged with 4k troops.
Second attempt: WotR fired and France refused to peace out after I sieged Paris.
Third attempt: Forgot to complete the mission before I peaced out after sieging Paris.
Attempt 4: give up
I was like "why is it only in 360" and then I was like "oh, it was posted 18 seconds ago"
I was like "why is it only in 360" and then I was like "Oh, because my country bumpkin internet caps out at 1.5 down"
If i had a nickle for every time someone comments this on every video on youtube. I would have more money than Jeff Bezos
Oh I see. That's a particularly dirty trick you play. Love it.
I got super lucky in my England campaign, 6 days after game start, i received the Margret D'Anjou event plus Castille, Burgundy, Austria all hated france but not me. It was a beautiful start
I'm a serious England player (blame the anglophilia) and I disagree with this opening.
War of the Roses event is not necessarily a bad event. It is the quickest and sure fire way to get rid of Henry VI. When you complete it, it gives a whopping 50 prestige. With that prestige bonus, I try and get the 'Faceting' event in Caux (which is why I would recommend NOT releasing normandy) which gives you an enormous pile of cash and makes your home node rich as hell. Not only that, either the Lancaster or York candidate is usually a very good ruler with atleast 10 monarch points. In fact if you get an heir, it's better to get rid of them otherwise you'll be stuck with a 0/0/0 for another about 10 years depending on how lucky you are and have him die, but even then that doesn't stop the event from firing the next time around.
My strat has always been to get the event to fire ASAP, don't stab up or anything, just wait. If you can get Burgundy to ally you, then go to war immediately on the surrender of Maine and just let England burn. They're only pretenders, your country won't collapse. Be sure to check the rebel demands - sometimes it's a really good ruler true and you can let them win. If not, and you get a sick ruler from the event, try to atleast get some money out of France and annul treaties with Scotland. Beat them the next time with your lead in monarch point gain.
Another important thing is to not complete the mission which gives you the force union CB on France until after the 2nd war, when you've taken a few provinces from them. This is to let your AE cool off and also gives less of an AE impact when you do force the union as France has less development.
I'm relatively new so Idk about fast moving strategies like this one but I tried to let the War of the Roses fire off on my recent run. Best decision I ever made. I took the opportunity to create a vassal in Ireland to feed him provinces and used one of Scotland's allies as a proxy to take Scotland's money, the Norwegian Isles and trade early on. All the arguin while RoW fired and I let the rebels defend my territory during the war. I also let Irish minors consolidate so I can vassal feed them later. It's definitely an interesting country to play as so far. I just have trouble building up manpower for the subjugation CB. I always avoid the Maine event as I'm scared of France's generals but I'll try to use it next time to get the strategic control mission asap.
I watched you play out this strategy on a live stream just after the release of Rule Britannia, and it was absolutely spectacular, I'm happy you made this guide, it'll definitely help others, and i myself in future campaigns!
No. I think it's bad. Especially that exploit MP part is totally unneccessary. Just ally Aragon or Burgundy and you're set.
@@SkyForceOne2 yeah, but if you can declare on Scotland day 1 (11.12.1444) then you'll be at a much better advantage, and if you ally Aragon or burgundy, then they'll always want land, and stop yourself from expanding
+Cosmic Chronos Please (!) don't take that as an insult, but you seem to not be that experienced with the game.
Everthing about your statement is wrong. Scotland is no real issue, you can easily white peace them and come back later. WITHOUT having to screw up your country long-term by flushing monarch points down thee drain through exploiting dev. You get a free CB and claims on them anyway, "worst" thing they can do is develop their provinces for you, lol.
And WHO CARES about you having favors with BUR/ ARG when you can simply PU France?? How should these both then stop you from expanding? You just simply break alliance and ally somebody else that wants them dead. Scotland will be easy to invade, nobody can defend their land.
The raising autonomy might be okay. Might. It will go away. But there is no point in perma-weakening your country just to make it stronger a bit faster. It's so illogical. It's just not worth it.
@@SkyForceOne2 lol you're right, I'm not that good (600 hours) and I definitely see your point, you're wasting resources to gain ~10-20 years, but that's what makes it a valid strategy. I suppose different tactics depend on different playstyles. I really see the short term benefits of this strategy, whilst overlooking the long term cons of it... But I think that's sort of how I play the game... I'm glad you pointed out the cons more clearly, since I would just have waved off the cons of the strategy otherwise xD
+Cosmic Chronos
EU4 isnt really that difficult imo, the bad part just is that you have to know how to abuse it's weird mechanics for workarounds.
I mean, I'm the type of player that always greeds for lategame, makes the initial challenge more fun for me. Might be the reason I hate that approach so much.
But the thing I did not point out that good is: Annexing Scotland early on might not even be that much of a boost for you, since you weakened your country in the first place. So it might not even grant you an advantage, especially when considering you PU'ing France, they will never get loyal if you also have Scotland (and on top Normandy etc what Arumba did there) under you. So it might even slow you down.
But yeah, play as you like, obviously. Be prepared tho, that if you click that exploit dev button, I'll come haunt your savegame in agony and despair! :D
Really interesting strategy, never thought about it like that before. No real reliance on RNG either!
as you saw burgundy was rivald to him aswell. As long as you dont rival then and burgundy has france as a rival.
Yeah this has a very slim reliance on RNG compared to the other methods like allying with Aragon or Burgundy and calling them into the war with France which can take dozens of restarts. So long as you don't rival Burgundy in this you can do it. Though I would take a loan for some mercs rather than trashing your land for manpower and crushing your force limit.
@Hazzycakes Plus, he even addressed the off-case where you can't get access through burgundy. Having seen the video, you could probably do some improve relations without issues. He ignores diplomacy for the sake of brevity. You can also just snag military access and come in from the north. Might cost you 50 monarch points if you go over the relations cap and have to keep it for a couple months, but who cares?
War of the Roses tho
So heres a small correction guide because of updates and such:
- Dont rival Scotland right off the bat or they will set up their fort again.
- You dont need to give any states to the clergy, and you dont need to exploit all the provinces.
- You should put a couple of ships in the North sea if the livonian order allies scotland. They have 6 galleys and 2 light ships so theyre pretty easy to kill. Though its harder to win that than if scotland only allies france.
- You shouldnt complete the goal that gives you a claim on scotland until youre right on the border so they cant reinforce their forts before your troops come in.
- You can sell your ships to the netherlands for 53 gold and 47 to Utrecht to maximize your gains.
Sounds good but still doesnt sovle the issue that u can´t white peace france out with the won siege on paris. They wipe you everytime. Sadly...
The surrender of Maine is a god send of an event, France doesn't have Elan! at the beginning so his troops are actually worse than yours . You can ally burgundy and call them in with the promise of land, provided you have already mobilized your troops in France and maybe taken out a few loans to merc up you can easily win and get a [relatively] free PU over france!
Yeah, just ally burgundy or aragon and france is easily beatable in the maine war if you know what you're doing
The strategy in this vid is nice and all but totally unnecessary
Alex Ward never had luck with this because burgundy always rivals or is hostile because the want Calais
Charged upOK much with this game it’s luck of the draw!
except the idea is this is reliable it does not rely on the slim chance Aragon or burgundy will ally you or that they will even join in the about 20 games i have played as england i have only ever had them help me once. personally i prefer to just release the alencon vassal and give them main so the event never fires and go from their is it no as strong a start no do i not have to spend a hour restarting hoping to get a ally no so i pick the reliable option
Silogis haha, probably localisation changes through fear of another hundred year war!
could you not exploit development of your mainland provinces BEFORE you make them into your vassals?
No because vassals give +1 force limit regardless of size.
I really want to see a follow up for this. How do you deal with disloyal subjects? How do you win against France in straight-up war? How do you keep them then from rebelling?
@MikeProductions1000 PU doesn''t take vassals into account on relative strenght, only their own strenght versus their overlord. So annexing Scotland would do nothing more than give you some more troops/development. If you can't keep subjects under control even with all the options to lower Liberty Desire, you really need to read up on the basics of the game. I've gotten France into this PU several times and never have they rebelled against me.
In my game i ally castille and Aragon (they just need to not like France, even if they are rivals just ally castille and RM Aragon at day 1) the war was easy
shouldn't you exploit your french land first?
but you want to lower your own forcelimit by decreasing autonomy, vassal land doesnt offer as much forcelimit as your own so decreasing it doesnt have as much of an effect
Michael on UA-cam but you don’t have to immediately declare war on Scotland
declaring war that early garantees the mothballed fort
You do it for the easy win on Scotland
sternstinator but Scotland won’t turn on his fort until he is threatened, and since he is in an economic struggle, he won’t full maintenance it for a while. Not only that, you can have a higher force limit for a future French war which will be more secure. If anyone have a rebuttal, feel free to do so.
Hmmm. How can you win the Scallop war against France though?
Yes, it's tricky after the peasantry demand England leaves the HRE.
Most importantly take Paris and let the warscore tick, try making picks on smaller armies to thin him out. You don't stand a Chance vs The 2 big stacks with their huge generals. If you can ally either aragon or spain you can promise them Land that you won't give them, sometimes they still can't be called to arms. Burgundy always can be promised but often Rivals you. Abuse terrain if possible, especially in The Mountains in The south (German: Pyrenäen, don't know the English name). Without taking scotland first it's alot of reloading. Maybe the additional vasalarmies will help.
And ditch Portugal as an ally asap. They offer nothing and Cost a diploslot. Yes. It's nice to Royal mariage them. But just do that with aragon, spain, burgundy, whoever you get and you should be fine. Btw. If you try to ally spain and Aragon. Aragon will ditch cause they re always rivaling spain. And it feels like Aragon more often accepts The call to Arms. Also spy on france for faster siege. Also without provinces in france they Ll try crossing The English channel. Ppl die in These boats. That s about all i can remember atm.
Does not seem to work any more, or maybe I got unlucky. First of all Scotland never mothballed their fort, which slows this down but does not necessarily kill the strategy. The big thing is that France now always seems to defend their capital with all of their troops (28k in my game) and Scotland picked up a mainland Europe ally which prevented me from reaching 100 war score against them without going and sieging down a whole other country.
Agreed: First you can t spend papal influence to get curia influence anymore as you don t have a cardinal. Then you spend lots a precious manpower on the scotish forts that are not mothballed+ you can t get noble manpower interaction as you are parlementary by default. Finally france doesn t systematically offer white peace when you get paris. I m sure a good player as arumba could still make this work without problems but its not easy for a noob like me.
What if Burgundy doesn't like us? Reroll?
Also hunt enemy fleet kinda fucked me. They went after single Scottish ships and let the French waltz into London.
I don't get how you're so lucky. I've tried this 6 times and every time France attacks when I'm in Paris and wrecks me.
Try to merc up a little bit so you have at least 30k seiging, they dont show up with their full army and dont attack you...at least in version 1.29
What about the event that turns calais into an important trading port.
The staple port is nice to have, sure, but it's only 10 trade power. We're england.. just build more boats. :)
@@arumba Truth is if Burgundy won't give access to France while you beat Scotland, you could probably keep Calais and just merc up ?
you can just ask through Burgandy's vassals
@Arumba, wow is that a period before a smiley? Might seem like a non-issue but I find this to be brave. I've always tried to avoid punctuation before smileys, but will surely try to be more stringent in the future. Don't let modern means of communication get in the way of proper grammar! :)
@@arumba 10 mercantilism is a lot of dip France ain't getting to Calais keep it.
As someone from Scotland gotta say:
Ayrshire is said Air-shire
I watched live as you came up with this and like every Arumba 'unboxing' it was hilarious! Highlights being The Wood Wall, The Rotten Swine of Utrecht and The Protectors Hesse.
It was going really well up until my 30k stack got wiped while I was on Paris...
shouldn't you've done the exploit provinces before releasing the subjects since that would grant you even more manpower?
I watched this last night in bed, thought this looks super easy.
- Scottish army didn't move away from Scotland
- Combined Scottish/Irish navy of 28 ships rekt my fleet in the Irish Sea
- Irish troops came over
- I finally sieged down all of Scotland with 6k troops left and 0 manpower
- (I know, I'm just a noob)
Don't rival Scotland so they won't have a lot of allies
How are you going to manage the huge liberty desire? Especially after you enforce union upon France.
support loyalists, placate local rules, improving relations with vassals during the war, and taking some of scotlands development when you vassalize them should do it
also staying in wars with ireland will give you a relations boost with your subjects for being in a war together
The other fact that Arumba has shown in his Timurids opener video, if you are at war no vassal can declare independence or seek support for it. As long as you have a war lined up before the truce is up, you can take the entire war to chip away at the liberty desire and get them in order.
I don't think you can placate local rulers on personal unions, correct me if I am wrong. Also keep in mind to keep positive prestige, negative prestige really hurts liberty desire. Being ahead of diplomatic technology and diplomatic reputation from advisor and trustworthy allies mission are really worth it!
PUs don't contribute to "Relative Strength of *all vassals*". They're only calculated on individual strength vs overlord.
This doesnt work. Every time I try to siege Paris France completely destroys me. There is nothing I can do
Wait till burgundy is at war with France
In 5 different tries, France attacked my 31-33 stack in Paris each time. I think this cheese tactic is outdated or very RNG dependant.
you can see that France sent most of its troops to fight in England but died on the ships in navel battle. the AI will fight you unless its army is weaker. in the video France only had 15k outside Paris when arumba had 27k so the AI wont attack. Maybe if you can bait the AI into invading England and then sinking the ships Frances army will smaller when you go to take Paris.
Careful with this in 1.28, at least on hard. Scotland 3 out of 4 will end up not mothballing and with the extra time France had a bigger army and stomped me when I sieged Paris
And then second try the entire French army of 30k including their 4-4-3 general all collapsed on Paris and ended up stack wiping. If you are going to do this do it on normal
so, how do I do this after the austria update??
I like converting all the provinces in England to welsh, bring in the Tudors after the War of the Roses, and then take over all of Brittania as a welsh empire.
I massively disagree with selling your heavies. I find you need them a lot more then lights in combat.
saying that, I don't run my lights into combat so.......I guess I have things to learn :(
Just want to say that I put my full 31 stack on Paris and France attacked it. Not sure what the difference was between me and Arumba. Anyway, people may want to go a bit over the force limit to discourage them further.
Nice definitely gonna try this one. :D
Can you make a up to date Byzantium video?
Would really appreciate it! :3
pls add DLC needed for these moves too if you are going to make another similar guide ^^
Just a heads up to everybody trying to siege down Paris: unlike what happens in this video, France WILL attack that 27 stack on top of Paris. It's happened to me in every single playthrough where my stack is less than 30. They tend to hit mil tech 4 long before England so get Paris sieged down ASAP, or it ain't happening.
@Hazzycakes Burgundy allows me military access even when rivaling me for some reason. Might be due to them also rivaling France.
Same happened to me every time I tried it. Playing on Dharma, the AI got sneaky. It too got access through Burgundy and my first attempt at taking Paris ended when the French outflanked me by marching through Burgundian territories in the South and attacking from Troyes and Valois with about 38k troops. Lost the battle and was forced to flee south. The zones of control from the French forts made escape impossible and the entire army ended being stack wiped in central France. Attempt number two did not even make it to Paris. The French doom stack was waiting for me in Artois the moment the army hit the beaches at Calais. Tried to salvage the situation by sending Henry on a suicide mission, but alas he survived. Ended up trading vassals in the peace deal, Normandy and Gascony for Scotland. Not a bad option if you want to play a "Historical" England/Britain game. Releasing the subjects is a much better than simply giving the land to France in a peace deal.
You could get lambourd back from your vassal at any time to distract france amries
lol, this was so cheesy all my mind was thinking was "vassalize SCO" xD
I don’t know why, my clergy influence is too high at the start...
It would be really good if you could do more of these opening strategy videos for other nations in 1444, e.g. France, Castile, Portugal, Austria, Muscovy, Poland, Brandenburg - to name a few.
So do you need like every dlc for this? I can’t exploit development, give land to vassals, or make my fleet hunt for enemies.
Oh thanks Arumba, I just started a career with England with Rule Britannia DLC. What graphic mod are you using?
Havent gotten this to work once. France never just leaves my stack alone.
I personally think letting the war of the roses fire is beneficial for the country in the long run. You don't want a 0 0 0 ruler for 15 years
I have a little question: what are you gonna do with disloyal France & Scotland & Normandy & Armaniac? I think this England will look like Timurids at beginning of the game isn't it?
You just line up your wars correctly with your new cbs. Literally one war after another. You use those wars to get their lib down: buy their debt (they almost always get into it) placate etc.
Timurids: "fear is a weapon, wise generals use well"
What graphic mod do u use?
HEy, if you could do one on Austria for the current patch, that would be great!
Thanks !
Consider the following. Get levy the troops asap and protect your mainland provinces as demonstrated in the video (or just delete your forts and eat the war exhaustion when France occupies them.), get surrender of maine and declare on france as a result. While fighting france, dow scotland with subjugation CB. France is easy to keep out of your island before you're ready to slaughter his troops or island trap them on ireland. Furthermore, the more time passes while you're "fighting" france, the less likely his allies are to stick around. You can effectively keep the war with France on hold while you bypass his guarantee of Scotland. Furthermore, you don't need to trucebreak France.
for singleplayer this opening is okey but for multi i can say that its not especially if you r playing with rules
This strategy is done for SP
A France player will just whip out your army
Hey that's cool. I'm quite new to eu4. Is there any chance you could do another tutorial series? I'd really appreciate it. Most other tutorials on youtube are really old and the game seems to have evolved a lot.
A lot of tutorials are still viable. What muddies the water is what DLC's you have and what changes are made in the patches. Vanilla EU4 is not too bad to learn on it's own, but it's pretty poor gameplay when you see what improvements are behind DLC.
This video for instance uses several mechanics from different DLC's; Estates, Transfer land to subjects, exploiting manpower, and of course the many English involved mechanics from Rule Britannia. But hey if you have all the DLC then this is just a ramble, the game is still great mind you so just play learning how to get around sticky situations yourself is a lot of the fun!
Budget Monks youtube channel has lots of opening moves. yes they are outdated for some but he explains why hes oding it an you can apply it elsewhere. Hes most recent HRE guide is awesome too.
Arumba once made a brilliant tutorial series together with Filthy Robot where they played as Scotland. He literally explained EVERYTHING and I learned so much new stuff (even after 2000 hours played!). Could be outdated though, if he ever does a new beginner's tutorial, I would surely watch it!!!
There's no point in investing that 5 papal influence to become pope at the start. You lose your cardinal in Aquitaine when you release Gascony, which puts your chances at becoming Papal Controller back down to zero.
Dunno about the heir thing, this 0-0-0 fucker can live long (and not prosper), that's a pain. I'd rather get a dude from war of the roses probably.
When I manage to PU France i get so muche Aggresive Expansion that I almost mostly get a Coalition immiediatly. And as france is disloal they wont help so i am fucked.
"If you've ever played england before you would know its hard to beat england..." sounds about right
Used this and it turned out pretty good so far... downside WotR triggered around 1448... after a few Irish conquests.
i got scotland beat but france merked my army in paris. white peace with france and subjugated scotland. but now i got high liberty desire in all vassals and a coalition war with most of ireland :o
I don’t know if it is from updates, but Scotland always gets an alliance with Ulster and the Livonian Order when I try this.
The biggest problem with this strategy I see is that the first England Cardinal is in Aquitane that means you cannot get the papacy if you give aqcuitane to a vassal like you do.
Instead of hurting your economy and manpower in the provinces you can just hire some mercs to max force limit... That part was way too over thought ;)
This seems like a much better way of going at it rather than getting spain, portugal, aragon, burgundy, austria, and a few german minors as allies and then having a bidecade holiday where I siege out the entirety of france and then take 4 provinces until they are nothing but ash
Instead of PU'ing France just give up 100 dev worth of cores... Profit?
the only opening as england is to restart till you ally with burgundy. then force pu france. (promise burgundy land).
Don't you lose your cardinal (and invested pope chance) when you give away Aquitaine to Gascony?
could you do opening moves on Byzantium when the New Expansion is coming
Also, the fort in scottland is now maintained from the start. and I kept on gettin my arse handed to me by the french in paris, no matter what, so i let them land in ireland to have less of 'em on the continent. worked better
Just delete the forts in France and force the union. It's easy
I've done it but now all my vassals have >75% liberty desire ://////
Would it not behoove this opening to permit France to land troops in England 8k at a time and stack wipe them?
Why not exploiting the French land before liberating vassals?
That's a dirty move. I would never have thought of releasing a vassal
War of the Roses is great. Fight me. Anything to ditch that shitty ruler is ok by me.
Just finished a game as England in Rule Britannia. Im a superpower but to see that I could have avoid all this hard campaign easily like that. You must be the best player I have ever seen
Despite being English I've never given England a run. Always thought it could be too easy. Might give it a touch now...
And then myself. Again, quality stuff that mostly goes over my head!
Love watching your EU4 and CK2 play throughs Arumba , just a suggestion maybe after finishing this , go for the anglophile achievement for England on this save, if you haven't already earned that achievment
in every game right before paris falls france attacks my forces and i die.
Buy 2 mercs seems way easier then destroying your development
Just curious as to why you didn't take the other vassal. I'm assuming because of relative power?
Really enojoyed this new and refreshing video! However, I do believe that the liberty desire will be extremely high with Gascony, Normandie, Scotland AND France :P
My problem is that West March is NEVER mothballed. I always have to go the hard way and siege it down. But once you got Lothian and the Isles you can stil take Paris. I didn't even white Peace France. I took Armagnac and gave it to Gascogny. EVERYONE is super unloyal now and I have 4 vassals and 3 allies, which is killing my diplo mana.
Later France will put you over and then you take 1 -minus dip until the tradition you get.
Could you please make more starting move guides for EU4? If you could also list the dlcs your playing with that would be awesome. I learned a lot from this as a new player
would love to see a follow up video, showing your next moves, like winning the war with france, breaking burgundy, keeping spain down etc.
Funky way to start, but honestly, I just rerolled untill Burgundy is not a rival (when not rivalled to me he has so far always been autorivalled to france). With only Burgundy you'll already beat France as long as the guy doesn't get too many allies untill the maine event fires. Sometimes you get really lucky and you can get both Burgundy and Castille/Aragon (all three has so far never happened to me but is theoretically possible).
What you do is just fight France and not care about Scotland yet. By the time you wear France down (it does take a while) you might be able to already pick either your first age bonus or get curia controller to lower AE enough not to eat a coalition by subjugating France. If this is not possible for you, sign the peace deal late december, the januari tick should still get you under 50 AE and prevent the coalition.
Afterwards just let AE tick down, fix your relations with France so you don't lose the union the moment your king dies, and recuperate towards the force limit mission. Then Vassalize Scotland. Then steal Holland and Brabant from Burgundy and Vassalizing/Conquer Brittany and conquer Ireland. Just be carefull on your AE and take your time, you'll still be a ridiculous powerhouse way before any other powerhouse even taking your time. You might even steal Norway from Denmark for giggles.
P.S. I only go after Scotland when he's done annexing the Isles. And I cycle my wars between the Irish Minors and the European mainland to help limit AE. Always have a Diplomat for improved relations. If you're going to get Castille involved into the war against France, start the game by fabricating on Nevarra. Usually Nevarra's only ally ends up being Castille and you can snatch it during your war with France. It can become very valuable if you plan to dismantle Castille/Spain later on as it's a pretty awesome Fort location. Do mind that it will make it trickier to subjugate France without triggering a coalition.
my biggest problem with this strategy is trying to keep the 2 mainland vassals and scotland loyal.....after I PU'ed france, they all banded together and declared on me, wiping out my 95.2% annexation of normandy.....Ragequit campaign right there
Yeah, that's why I avoid doing that and just take the war exhaustion (remember to delete forts). After you take Paris, it doesn't matter how much land they occupied, just sit on it for a while and they'll agree to a peace deal, leaving you to vassalize Scotland.
This guide is garbage (sorry Arumba, but seriously). You can just ally Castile/Aragon/Burgundy, preferably at least 2 of them, and PU France without giving up or selling anything. Improve relations with potential coalition members and ally someone like Austria to deter a punitive war from happening. Then grab Ireland and Scotland within the next 10-20 years.
It’s really ez if you have burgundy and Austria as allies and just develop France to lower liberty desire and I own all of France expect province all of burgundy including Benelux and have almost all carribieen and Florida and Quebec by 1601 super ez but restarts required to not get burgundy as rival
Edit: did it without RB dlc
i don't have the exploit development tab. is this a dlc thing?
Cradle of civilization but for this strategy I will recommend you the radio res guide, he changed the strategy a bit so it works even better
Hello, ty for your video, nice opening, but I still wanted to know about Idea Groups, Where to Colonize first and secound Idea Groups. Is it smart to pick "Exploration Ideas" as first group? because England won't have Colonial Range until its diplomatic tc 7 right? So, Exploration First seems lame idk
you can actually use the subjugation of France in the same war as the occupation happens, maybe a bug, but in the vid of Pravus, he got attacked for the surrender of Maine, then occupied Paris, turned in the mission and the war turned somehow to the other cb....
The surrender of maine IS the Restoration of Union CB
My english start is like this:
1. Ally with burgundy definitely, if their opinion is rivalry to you, just restart the game and royal marriage them
2. Ally with brittany and royal marriage them
3. Release gascony
4. İf you did levy the troops mission, dont take it until the end of the maine war.
5. İf france allied with scotland, be happy cuz you won this battle. Call burgundy and brittany to french war. They will probably come to your battle. Let them fight with france and all you want to do is now white peace scotland.
6. When u white peace with scotland, carry your whole army to calais and siege paris, don't do anything,just focus on taking paris with your whole army.
7. İf you took paris, get provence out of this war, maybe genoa is also in the battle but just white peace with provence with your whole army, keep your manpower as high as possible. For this, dont do any battle with your enemy. Just let this to your allies. AI's first priority is your allies not you.
8. İf you white peace with provence you may lost paris but ıt doesnt matter, just go to another enemy if they exist like genoa. Probably france beat up burgundy and brittany but they don't have much manpower. İf france is alone, you can attack them but dont do it unnecessarily,just occupy their forts and force them to union. Don't give burgundy anything. Break your alliance with them. And also brittany too. There may be a aggresive expansion a little but this coalition will be weak to declare war on you.
9. Take levy the troops mission and wait to attack scotland as soon as possible. Do them your subject.
10. Ally with austria, doesnt matter minus diplo point, just ally with them and do royal marriage.
11. Tolerate lollards, you may want to be anglican, which opens you the door of infinite money
12. Wait till your stupid king's death. And your royal marriage relationships were ended. And you gained some strength.
13. Start a war with brittany and fully annex them.
14. Focus on admin and take exploration ıdea.
These are steps for very powerfull start. Ideas can be like exploration,expansion,quantity,influence,quality,
I also recommend break your alliance with portugal and just kill all iberians if you can, except aragon, also ally with them.
A funny thing: One of my campaign with england ı have personal union with france, austria and ı don't know how hungary.for austria ı ate -5 stab and ı took hungary too. And that just happened in 1530.
Yeah man I don't know how you're going to make all those high-dev subjects loyal again without spending all your prestige. Especially if you feed Brittany to Normandy.
Yeah, just checked. This doesn't work anymore. Scotland allies itself with multiple Irish nations within the first few days, greatly increasing the enemy fleets and troops in the area. Unless you get lucky like Arumba did where they split their forces to attack your Irish holdings, you'll be swarmed by between 35-45k stacks pretty much immediately. I tested this 6 times on Very Hard, vanilla. No bueno. Same result every time.
As an aside, as soon as you give Aquitane to your vassal, you lose your cardinal. This causes you to lose your papal influence entirely, it seems.
I think you'd probably get kicked instantly for doing this in a multiplayer game. Especially if the host is playing France. Also if that siege of Scotland's vassal was long for you then you should see me play. That's like... the usual siege in my games. I'm rather unlucky in EU4 combat...
I highly would recommended to improve relations with Gascony and Normandy so they are loyal after the war with the free diplomats and also improve with the papal states to avoid excommunication and try to get a big nation like Castile or Aragon for later. Later you will have 3 Vassals with 1 free slot after you dissolve with Portugal so someone like Aragon and Castile will help a lot, that will take you to 4 slots and later France will put you one over but you get a extra relationship slot from English Ideas which you will lose when you form Great Britain but that will instantly inherit Scotland so there's no problem with relation slots like I've seen people say in chat.
Sounds like a odd thing to do but after the war start improving relations with France to 100 of the max improved relations so when you PU them later you already have 100 and then you can further improve it to the 200 of max improved relations to help with their liberty desire.
You don't need to give land to the clergy but give Gloucester, York and Lincolnshire to the burghers because they are trade centers and de-develop all the lands of your Gascony and Normandy for manpower before you make them vassals and English provinces but don't put any below 10 or 20 development and hire one mercenary and that will give you the mission, you can also disband the mercenary after you get the mission and follow the rest of the guide as usual.
Don't disband or sell your ships, you will need if Scotland gets allies and will need for later. I would honestly suggest getting 5 for free with the burghers using the government reform for burgher loyalty because it saves you 250 gold to improve your fleet strength that will also later help with attacking Norway/Denmark for Greenland and the Faroes.
Always get at least exploration as the first idea because taking Greenland and getting a colonial range advisor which is available after your first +1 colonist idea is took you can reach America with tech 7 also but later you could get influence for integrating France and your vassals and to help with trying to become Emperor which will also probably need the diplomacy idea that will be a lot later after reformation and you want the HRE Protestant. Quality or Quantity could be picked before then, I tend to go for Quality and work around having less manpower because a lot later Quality will be more useful than manpower.
I would suggest flipping to Protestant as soon as the first Religious Center forms, become Defender of the Faith and use the extra missionary to quickly convert your lands. A good tip also is that you can force religion on a vassal and convert their lands for them.
I found stacking your military in Caen and waiting for the Surrender of Maine works just as well. France invariably marches a 15k stack into Alencon that was drilling the month before, so you can get a guaranteed stackwipe on 15k. Another 15k France stack will go south to siege Labourd. So all you have to do is repeatedly stackwipe the rebuilding French army+his allies in the north while sieging Paris. It's not a hard war, even doing it alone. Just use like 2 loans, mercs before the war, and consolidation.
Just found this "Arumba" channel and I have been watching EU4 vids for 3months trying to learn. This is his second video I have watched and I feel like I wasted 3 months of my life!!!! I believe I have found my teacher!! This guy is really good but talks so fast :(
This went pretty much flawlessly until it came to besiege Paris, at which point my army of 30k got stack-wiped by an army half its size (it fled to a province next to it, at which point France just moved into it and killed it). Well, 14k french soldiers led by a 2 star general is apparently stronger than 30k Englishmen with a 2 star general ;)
Ideally they will land troops and they will just be a free stackwipe, making it easier to siege paris later
yeah I also dont get it. he tried to prevent landing. It is the easiest way to win over france, by letting them land and wipe them one by one.
Great video. Just want to say that if you exploit development on all owned provinces BEFORE releasing Normandy and Gascony as vassals then you will reach the "manpower at least 60%" without having to do the additional moves with clergy estates, raising autonomy, etc.