I live between the red and arkansas rivers in the land of the caddo. My family's land has natural springs and can consistently find artifacts from the natives that lived here... And now you tell me my true destiny is to take over the world?
Look at florryworry's channel, he does a walkthru how to get it. It is ottoman, coptic, admin idea's, emperor with 3e reform and tribal espotism gov type. And i think the admin cost cap at 10% is right, but coring time is further reduced, he had a one month coring time, so 1000% overextension is ignorable.
The Fascist Empire of Sun Order haha that is cool, I want to form the Roman Empire as Byzantium in one of my future games! the cossacks DLC is killing me atm.
Aztecs invaded Europe first, source : Sunset Invasion CK2. jokes aside, that's the first time i've seen Teutonic Order alive after 100 years. well done.
In a game where I became Mega-Murica starting as Norway, by 1715 the Teutonic Order owned northern Poland, and all of Lithuania, Livonian Order, Riga. They only lost Neumark to Brandenburg. I like how weird the map ends up in EU4. EU4 is nowhere near as random as CK2 though.
Thanks to this game I understood that they are called "teutonic" in english, lol. I am before my first game and had to google it. This is a bit hilarious.
The Maya existed from like 1.5k BC to present times. There was even a breakaway neo-Maya nation in the 1800s that ended up getting put down in the early 20th century (And was almost annexed by the US after a successful vote in the US House but a failed vote in the US Senate). One of the Maya's biggest/most populous city states was pre-Classic Maya anyhow (1k BC to 200 BC) and had one of the largest city populations in the world and its city radius was slightly larger than modern day Los Angeles (feel free to look that up). Its just that the classical Maya is what is most famous +Andrew Damitio
You can have a great grasp of the game after 200-400 hours or a poor grasp of the game after 1000 hours. It all depends how skilled/inquisitive you are.
For me its the ladder, played it since the game came out and NEVER beat the game (closest for me was as Portugal in the 1700s, but I only colonized and my colonies broke free)
+Claystead Whaaaat... That was one of the first things I learned (granted, I wanted to play Denmark all the time, so I needed to if I wanted to succeed). It's not really that hard though. If you want to I can explain it too you in like a few minutes?
This is one of the videos that helped get me into EU4. Years and so many hours of playtime later, it's crazy to go back and see how the game used to be. I miss this channel, Reman we need you back.
honestly, just do everything he said. -tech up to mil 3, nothing else. edit: you might keep up teching to stay ahead of the mesoamericans -migrate southwards -spank every other one province minor with no casus belli wars and vasallize them -DO NOT UP YOUR STABILITY unless you need to to prevent peasants!! -attack the mesoamerican guys and take cholula -wait for event to trigger and accept the religion -do the requierments to reform the religion
I have really bad luck in this game, like every time I try to do something, something bad happens. For instance, I was playing as Korea, patiently waiting for the mingplosion. I patiently waited for the entire game until the timurids(yes they somehow lived and turned out they ate EVERYTHING, including the ottomans) came along and obliterated the ming and me without even breaking a sweat. Another time, I was playing as a mesoamerican tribe. But guess who comes knocking on the side that I didn't fill with castles and vassals? THE MING. (You will begin to notice a pattern here). Another time, I was playing in Europe, hoping that maybe the institutions will help me, when, you probably guessed it, the renaissance started in... THE MING. Even when the mingplosion happens, stupid stuff like their rebels invading me or something can happen. Sure, I have had some decent games, but man, the ming are my kryptonite. Spread the word: the Ming are correct, their kingdom and its ruler are literally controlled and blessed by god.
Matthew Smith Last week I decided to try a Majapahit into Malaya game, took exploration ideas asap and started walling off the Indian ocean so that the Europeans wouldn't come and break my balls. Even made sure to explore around the Cape quite soon so I wouldn't be taken by surprise. Then around 1570, who do I see show up on the island chain off Sumatra but... the Ottomans. Who had taken Exploration. And somehow had col range all the way from Suez to Sumatra.
Yeah no, the renaissance didn't start in Ming, it can ONLY spawn in Italy in a 20 dev province or someone's capital, excluding Malta. And last time I checked Ming didn't own a 20 dev province in Italy in 1450.
There is a chance of it spawning in an insanely developed province outside of Italy, too, if it is way more advanced than the Italian cities. So it looks like the Ming got lucky and did what is a viable player strat by complete accident. They must have developed their capital quite a lot.
can_start = { is_year = 1450 region = italy_region is_state = yes NOT = { province_id = 126 } is_island = no OR = { development = 20 is_capital = yes normal_or_historical_nations = no } } If you can't read code, it says it can spawn in a province with the following criteria; Is in the region Italy; Is in a state of the owner; The province can not be Malta or an island; It has to have either 20 development or be a capital, unless normal or historical nations is turned off, then it can spawn anywhere in a state in Italy that isn't Malta. And the year has to be 1450 of course.
The OR condition is stating that this can happen outside of Italy in any other nation, just so long as it is a capital with at least 20 development. There is a reason it needs normal or historical nations turned off for this to happen.
This is great stuff. Although Caddo is not the only nation that can do this. I made a video on another one, Mescalero, who can do this too, and even wichita and a few others can. But anyhow, love your video, very informative!
This strategy is still possible, it's just harder to do and not as powerful as before. I made it work with Lipan on v1.29. Biggest difference i found is that natives are harder to beat due to federations. The start is also harder because to reach cholula, you need to take more provinces and fight more nations. I had three wars before i could finally take Cholula.
Yup. Found that one out the hard way in a recent Cherokee game. I had over 3000 MP saved in each category, and when I took my first tech after reforming it dropped to 999. Fortunately my game mysteriously crashed and when I reloaded the save I spent my points appropriately (tech, mercantalism, dev, ideas) before reforming.
You make it seem so easy. Not including all the restarts to get a good initial leader, it's taken me 8 attempts to make this strategy "work". Admittedly a couple of those attempts failed due to stupidity on my part (e.g. triggering a coalition after just 30 years), but my main problem was that as soon as I changed religion to Nahuatl and lost most of the extra troops that the native "Fortified House" building gave me, I'd get jumped by the Aztecs with their 3 shock general (and they always had a general with at least 3 shock), backed by their five vassals (and they always had five). My 2 Mil Tech advantage certainly helped, but the swarms were still too much for me. On my current attempt I got lucky because I was able to rival Zapotec, which allowed me to ally Xiu. Previously the only significant alliance I'd been able to get was with Colima who then immediately dragged me into a war with Aztec and Tlapanec (idiots!). The alliance with Xiu scared the others away long enough for me to run through the religious reforms, after which I was able to do pretty much as I pleased. Now my problem is that the Europeans keep attacking. I keep beating them, but they just keep coming back. I've annexed Portugal's Mexican colony twice, and stripped the Thirteen Colonies of the entire Florida peninsula, all in wars that *they* started. But still they keep coming. England's mission for the past 50 years has been to conquer Ireland. During that time they haven't attacked Ireland once, but they've come for me three times. Even though I've rivaled England I've been unable to get any of its enemies to ally me because they all have colonies in the New World and they all want MY land. Even Scotland, whose only colony is landlocked in Colombia, 800km from my nearest border, hates me because they want my land. Go figure. At the moment I'm facing down the combined invasion forces of France, Spain, Portugal and their seven colonies. This isn't a coalition, just an alliance of like-minded, gold-crazed AIs. Despite having parity in mil tech and a 15% advantage in morale I don't fancy the chances of my 50K troops against their 300K. Perhaps if I hire a dozen mercenaries that will turn it all around...
Well I know this comment is old, but as soon as you reform to steal the European tech which hopefully happens soon after 1500, you need to take exploration ideas and colonize towards Australia. You can start conquering the spice islands area and up through India. Africa is pretty close also, so you'll have plenty of targets. You should be able to get powerful enough by 1560ish that the Europeans won't be constantly attacking you, and sieging down Australia will be hard for them to do
Yeah the "wants your provinces" modifier is pretty dumb, especially when it comes to the New World. Suddenly every nation in western Europe wants all provinces in the New World so you can't really get alliances in Europe. Still it's not as problematic as you make it seem as the AI is horrible at naval invasions so rather than fighting 50k vs 300k you'll be fighting 50k vs ~20k+~20k+~20k+...n stacks which you can easily annihilate 1 after the other. Moreover you don't even need that much war score to peace the Europeans out for their colonies as they don't value them much at all, like 2-4% war score per colony so it really doesn't take much. Heck as Japan I created Japanese Mexico than kept declaring wars on Spanish Mexico, fully carpet sieging them each time than waiting for Castile and their allies to send puny stacks over to Mexico, only to die by my hand than quickly peace out. Even easier to do as a country based in the New World as you don't need to ferry your own troops across the ocean and deal with the still dumb AI of your colonial allies' armies.
Correct and they will stop attacking you if you get strong allies.. you need to colonize near stuff like India and get whoever is the strongest guy there as an ally, or Ming or the Ottomans if you are lucky. Conquer territory near them that they don't desire to eliminate distance between borders modifier.
Would like to point out that you can use the diplo-points to spend on a Totemist idea that reduces the migration timer, which can speed up the process even further.
Well, you shouldn't be taking any land until you are very close to swapping religion, after which, it doesn't seem to matter anymore, you can't make the native buildings anymore and can only make the euro style ones.
hans57kuijpers, what part of you can't destroy forts as a Native American tribe didn't you understand? The building interface is completely different. All you can do is mothball.
I have one major problem with this brilliant strategy - after no casus belling northern OPMs ana vassalizing them and passing 3 reform the coalitions become pain in the ass and I cannot beat 3 of them in a row :/
Bavaria??? I wanna know how the fuck the TEUTONS got so big! You SEE those bastards???
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+Damien Galindo Teutons ally Denmark near constantly these days Denmark comes in and crushes incompetant Poland Lithuania Seriously their troops just run away...Byzantium Poland strat is near useless because they either don't even fucking come down or let the turks siege them down or kill tiny stacks they send at massive armies god knows why
I'm almost in Caddo territory but I live just between the Osage and Caddo - 20 miles north of the river that's just above the Caddo area (Arkansas River). It's just kind of neat that you can make out the faint outline of states that have rivers as borders. I've wanted to play this game. Steam had it on sale pretty cheap but I went with Hearts of Iron 4 instead. Looks like my cup of tea though.
Thanks for the suggestion! I was originally sceptical, but this does look like a lot of fun :D You also have a purpose from the get-go so that also makes the earlier game interesting. Great video! Oh and before I forget it was a bit hard to hear what you were saying sometimes, like "mercantilism" and "Nahuatl".
I tried it for the first time now and when I got to Tamaulipas, the Totonac were already vassals of Tlaxcla. 16k vs 25k I think I go for a 2nd try now xD
i learned a tip from arumba where the points are only lost after a month has passed, so if you passed a reform or embraced an institution the points are still there with the new added bonuses or recently negated negative multipliers
lol this shit used to give you -100% tech cost back in 1.17 or some patch. so they already nerfed it into like a "miniexploit" as opposed to the pure overpoweredness it was before
L'Humanoide Errant des Internets Yep, it sure was... In the video Cholula was a costal province so I assumed it’s one of those provinces that change names due to culture. I mean, this video is what? Two years old already? So the provinces to sorta shift. Thanks man!
Nahuatl is my favorite religion in this game. The most fun to play with. You're constantly out of the comfort zone because you need to keep sacrificing to please the gods. And after you finish reforming the religion, you are an unstoppable juggernaut.
I used to go to Caddo Lake in Uncertain, TX all the time. If you go late at night you can sometimes hear the Caddo natives who used to live around the lake. But we do not pronounce it like this guy xD
What I like about this is that it feels real. There have been tons of small migratory tribes throughout history who started off fighting other small tribes and eventually blobbed into huge powers.
4:17 I saw a video by SiuKing666 where he didn't turn his computer off for the entire game, and his native advancements stayed, although he could not take any new ones.
Watched this after watching other EU4 videos to get a general impression on whether this is a game I should buy and could enjoy playing. Nope, and nope. I will admire this game's mechanical complexity from far, far away.
While an interesting tactic, I wouldn't say that playing Caddo in this manner is game-breaking OP... a lot still depends on luck, from what I've seen. I've played several times, and managed to completely reform my religion and conquer all of the Mesoamericans before the Europeans arrived, no problem. But before I could westernize, either the Spanish declared a crusade against me, or the British attacked. Also... depending on the circumstances, I think flower wars against Mesoamericans is actually easier than no-CB attacks against tribes, in my case. When I took Cholula, it left the Tlaxcala and the Totonac as OPMs, ripe for vassalization, without the stab and WE hits. Also, thanks for sharing this video! This was my first attempt to play as a new world country, and I had a blast :)
Did you not see him use several thousand points to tech up multiple times, and get half of 2 idea groups as well? After your points cap is lowered, you have until the next month until your points are taken down to the cap. You can see his points greyed out at the top showing that he is over and will be reduced.
No, once you embrace institutions of the Europeans, if you spend even 1 monarch point you are brought to your new cap, which is usually 999 (depending if there is another institution making a penalty that isnt embraced or not), so before embracing them make sure you develop/mercantilism up until you have around ~1400 monarch point of each type or so, so teching up will bring you to 999 and not be a waste..
They changed that with the new system, now you have what you had went you reformed even if that is in the thousands, but you only have until the end of the month, or it all gets deleted down to the cap.
No, it does not get lowered at the end of the month, it gets lowered when you spend points. As Andy Guirre said, if you have 3k and you spend any number of points, you get lowered to your cap immediatly. You can see it in the video quite clearly, reduce the speed if you can't catch it.
Geraduss is right actually, after reading his comment I loaded my Aztec save right before reform, and yeah you keep your points until the end of the month even if you spend some of it it doesnt bring you to cap, however it only works on Primitives that reform, it doesnt work on others that just embrace an institution. But as he said that is very new mechanic it seems, and on the video it clearly shows that when he picks a tech it moves him to point cap..
Recently played a campaign as Wichita using this as a baseline and had an absolute blast... Unless you are a really good player however (hint: I am not), I think the forced conversion through Cholula may actually hamper your progress quite a bit. It is definitely faster than causing Nauhatl Zealots to rise up, but it also forces you to switch out of native council government, which in the early game, I think, is honestly superior to any of the tribal governments for this specific strategy: cheap units, coupled with unique buildings that boost forcelimit massively, allow you to field an army big enough to give pause to two or even three of the other nauha states at a time and compete with the north american federations (bane of my existence) and chep stability allows you to recover from all the stab hits from the no CB wars.
I have spent the last hour trying to figure out how you migrated in the first place. This game is so great but so fking hard to figure out what you are supposed to do.
Very interesting. Ive tried a few times, but the Aztecs and such are all allied and vassalized up. Even with 16 stack and Mil tech 3 i get smeared. This seems like you really have to have everything fall into place for you randomly to pull off.
I think Carib is technically superior in terms of ideas, if you want to go the Mayan route. Mayan reforms give core cost reduction, which is pretty cool.
Well, it works, but it involve tons of restarts or waiting decades for good opportunity. Restarts to get good leader (I had to do like 20 to get someone decend) and then I had to reset 5 times when I got there, cus Aztecs never wanted to involve in the war, so I could not take the province. And when they wanted to get involved, it was as all nations together and you can't fight vs 6 of them at once :)
from my experience the salish can become a beast if guided properly. i have a modernized salish kingdom allied with castille california and my colony in miwak is making me mad ducats, while my territories spanning from british colombia up to canada are getting me great tax revenue
Doom is an internal mechanic that nahuatl gets. The religion itself requires El Dorado DLC to even exist the way it is in the video (as far as I remember). Otherwise, you wouldn't have the inner mechanics of vassalizing others.
I know the pain, I have been purchasing things on every sale available... I finally have all the DLC after 2 years of owning the game and catching 80% sales (not playing anything else though)
I don't know if they have changed since this was made but Aztec and Tarascan ideas don't really look mediocre (though they are not as focused and you don't get the massive edge of being able to see and fight all the northern tribes to quickly improve the religion)
narval1234567890 You see my answer ? I deleted because I was thinking you're the guys of the channel and for some reason I didn't rewrite it ^^' So thank for your advice :p
lutin grognon C'est ce que j'essaye de faire quand je commence une nouvelle série et parfois j'arrive à comprendre sans les sous titre et je commence a comprendre pas mal de youtubeur anglophone mais le mec ici je dois avouer j'ai du mal, Il a un accent assez bizarre ^^ Comment tu as deviné que j'était francophone ? xD
So i tried it but for some reason totonac keeps declaring on me when i'm trying to build the +10 force limit building in tamaulipas. Mil tech 3 is normally enough but they have the aztecs and tlaxcala so wot
Nice strategie, I am trying it right now in my current game but I can't declare war to the neighbouring province and get the holy city because they are in a terra incognita... anyone know how I can pass this without having to get an explorer through the national ideas ?
Louisiana has an abundance of native american names for towns, parishes, etc. Caddo Parish is pronounced as Cad-doe, though I'm not sure how accurate that is to the native tongue.
Hi! Nice strat, but either I am missing something or this is based on a combination of very lucky events. 1) 4/6/5 Ruler - who gets that in a regular game? I've done several rounds and settled on things like 1/4/4 because anything else seems highly unlikely. My problem with this: If you dont get at least 4 on military score, you are going to have a hard time catching up with the mesoamericans. 2) Almost the same as 1) - you need a decent general. Best hope for a decent general is a king with high warscore. Otherwise you'll just have hard time trying to achieve that 3) Depending on the migrational movements of the OPMs you won't have the chance to have too many wars, otherwise you'll trigger a coalition (if you choose to ignore the truces) 4) You are on a time limit, because if you make by 1490 it's a bit to late because your opportunity costs for pursuing this goatchase were already to high. 5) You might potentially be lucky enough to get the right CBs in meso america right away, or you just might not. in which case you'll have to wait and wait again (see 4). Maybe you have an answer to these problems, because as of right now I dont see how this supposed to work outside of an cozy SP environment with the possibilty to save frequently or yet alone in a competetive MP enviornment. Greetings FEW
in my game on last version A.I Caddo survived 1810 (I've yet to finish the game) with 1 mighty province and an alliance with United Kingdom. Alas, they are catholic and not of a native religion. And are surrounded by Usa on North-east and mighty spanish possession in West.
I tried this and every single native allied and/or formed a federation but then the big kicker came when I found that somehow in the 20 years since the game started almost everyone had become a vassal of zapotec including totonac.
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"I recommend [this strategy] to anyone who has a good grasp on the game."
That's my cue to leave.
ouch
not to sound like a cock. but I am pretty bad at the game and I managed to pull this strategy.it´s deffo not ottoman easy. but still manageable .
truth
Compared to what?
Do I need any dlc to do this?
"Negative stability is actually a good thing."
Caddo the chaos elemental tribe lol.
*WORLD REVOLVING INTENSIFIES*
>invades Ireland to get revenge on colonisers
nice
All white men are equally responsible for colonialism :^)
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHITE MALES
+ TapOnX ALL white man?... Dude, what about slavs? They didn't colonize shit XD
Dark Inquisitor ehm.. Siberia?
Alfonso Corral Does that really count as colonising?
The voice of the narrator and the background music basically makes this channel the How It's Made of EU4.
Professional TV show vibes
I thought this was gonna be a joke, but holy shit, it wasn't.
Hey Black Science Man!
No no no man, this is 100% serious, trying it right now, just took Totonac in 1463 AD.
People don´t think EU4 be like it is, but it do.
haha exactly!
NOBODY IS LAUGHING NOW
I live between the red and arkansas rivers in the land of the caddo.
My family's land has natural springs and can consistently find artifacts from the natives that lived here...
And now you tell me my true destiny is to take over the world?
Your empire starts there
What kind of artifacts if you dont mind me asking?
@@shaokhan2845 arrowheads, hatchet heads, grindstone.
Basically whatever stone tools they used
@@jacobhammock3355 immigrate to Mexico to become the most powerfull man on earth
@@realyoriginalchanel3218 The problem with this is that human sacrifice is concidered bad by most of the world
(Dont know what thats about)
meanwhile ottoman can get - 93% core cost reduction.
how do you get it that low
its capped at 90% right? the possible minimum you can get is 10% of the cost
Look at florryworry's channel, he does a walkthru how to get it. It is ottoman, coptic, admin idea's, emperor with 3e reform and tribal espotism gov type.
And i think the admin cost cap at 10% is right, but coring time is further reduced, he had a one month coring time, so 1000% overextension is ignorable.
bram meijboom Wait you can get one month coring times? Now that is stupidly OP...
It's capped at 95%, not 90%
EU4 always has a way of making Europe look so different every time you play the game.
which is one of the best parts of eu4. it shows how if history was slightly different, the world as we know it would be very different
agreed
I did a roman empire scenario, which ment the roman empire was still around, it didn't have as much land as it once did, but was still a big red blob.
The Fascist Empire of Sun Order haha that is cool, I want to form the Roman Empire as Byzantium in one of my future games! the cossacks DLC is killing me atm.
Reforming the roman empire as Byzants is a pain once you have to fight the HRE...
These are like the "How It's Made" of EU4.
VintageLJ yeah I really get that vibe mostly because of his voice and the background music
Nobody can compete with Tony Hirst
Aztecs invaded Europe first, source : Sunset Invasion CK2.
jokes aside, that's the first time i've seen Teutonic Order alive after 100 years. well done.
In a game where I became Mega-Murica starting as Norway, by 1715 the Teutonic Order owned northern Poland, and all of Lithuania, Livonian Order, Riga. They only lost Neumark to Brandenburg. I like how weird the map ends up in EU4. EU4 is nowhere near as random as CK2 though.
Thanks to this game I understood that they are called "teutonic" in english, lol. I am before my first game and had to google it. This is a bit hilarious.
Pocahontas strikes back.
Dante of Merv
eh, all red so whatever
Pocahontas was Powhatan. This isn't Powhatan.
THIS
IS
CADDOOOO!
*kicks Maya down a well*
Andrew Damitio
The Mayans were definitely around in the 1400s...
The last Mayan city state was annexed into Spain in 1697
The Maya existed from like 1.5k BC to present times. There was even a breakaway neo-Maya nation in the 1800s that ended up getting put down in the early 20th century (And was almost annexed by the US after a successful vote in the US House but a failed vote in the US Senate). One of the Maya's biggest/most populous city states was pre-Classic Maya anyhow (1k BC to 200 BC) and had one of the largest city populations in the world and its city radius was slightly larger than modern day Los Angeles (feel free to look that up). Its just that the classical Maya is what is most famous
+Andrew Damitio
Motti What was the maya nation of the 1800s?
Teleports behing you*
nothing personal caddo
Wut?
NANI?!
Personnel*
@@Sockem1223 that is actually the wrong spelling
@@tauempire1793 no, I am correct
Solid grasp on the game? Damn.
I'm still only 200 hours deep. Guess that doesn't include me.
Why Name? yeah get gud noob
You can have a great grasp of the game after 200-400 hours or a poor grasp of the game after 1000 hours. It all depends how skilled/inquisitive you are.
For me its the ladder, played it since the game came out and NEVER beat the game (closest for me was as Portugal in the 1700s, but I only colonized and my colonies broke free)
I'm on 700 hours played and still learning new things. The game has that much depth that there is always something to learn/improve upon.
+Claystead
Whaaaat... That was one of the first things I learned (granted, I wanted to play Denmark all the time, so I needed to if I wanted to succeed). It's not really that hard though. If you want to I can explain it too you in like a few minutes?
This felt like a TopGear episode on some new fancy economic car
This is one of the videos that helped get me into EU4. Years and so many hours of playtime later, it's crazy to go back and see how the game used to be. I miss this channel, Reman we need you back.
7:38
_YOU PICKED THR WRONG HEMISPHERE, FOOL_
Sounds hilarious but im bad at EU4 so ill just watch it happen
honestly, just do everything he said.
-tech up to mil 3, nothing else. edit: you might keep up teching to stay ahead of the mesoamericans
-migrate southwards
-spank every other one province minor with no casus belli wars and vasallize them
-DO NOT UP YOUR STABILITY unless you need to to prevent peasants!!
-attack the mesoamerican guys and take cholula
-wait for event to trigger and accept the religion
-do the requierments to reform the religion
This strategy requires Conquest of Paradise DLC, before anyone gets too excited.
Sad that Paradox will nerf this next patch. Once more natives will be barely fucking played. God fucking damnit.
Well they were wiped out
Fixing exploits is just the worst, they should leave unbalanced shit in the game whenever it happens
Fascinating video, well presented - subbed! :)
I have really bad luck in this game, like every time I try to do something, something bad happens. For instance, I was playing as Korea, patiently waiting for the mingplosion. I patiently waited for the entire game until the timurids(yes they somehow lived and turned out they ate EVERYTHING, including the ottomans) came along and obliterated the ming and me without even breaking a sweat. Another time, I was playing as a mesoamerican tribe. But guess who comes knocking on the side that I didn't fill with castles and vassals? THE MING. (You will begin to notice a pattern here). Another time, I was playing in Europe, hoping that maybe the institutions will help me, when, you probably guessed it, the renaissance started in... THE MING. Even when the mingplosion happens, stupid stuff like their rebels invading me or something can happen. Sure, I have had some decent games, but man, the ming are my kryptonite. Spread the word: the Ming are correct, their kingdom and its ruler are literally controlled and blessed by god.
Matthew Smith Last week I decided to try a Majapahit into Malaya game, took exploration ideas asap and started walling off the Indian ocean so that the Europeans wouldn't come and break my balls. Even made sure to explore around the Cape quite soon so I wouldn't be taken by surprise.
Then around 1570, who do I see show up on the island chain off Sumatra but... the Ottomans. Who had taken Exploration. And somehow had col range all the way from Suez to Sumatra.
Yeah no, the renaissance didn't start in Ming, it can ONLY spawn in Italy in a 20 dev province or someone's capital, excluding Malta. And last time I checked Ming didn't own a 20 dev province in Italy in 1450.
There is a chance of it spawning in an insanely developed province outside of Italy, too, if it is way more advanced than the Italian cities. So it looks like the Ming got lucky and did what is a viable player strat by complete accident. They must have developed their capital quite a lot.
can_start = {
is_year = 1450
region = italy_region
is_state = yes
NOT = { province_id = 126 }
is_island = no
OR = {
development = 20
is_capital = yes
normal_or_historical_nations = no
}
}
If you can't read code, it says it can spawn in a province with the following criteria;
Is in the region Italy;
Is in a state of the owner;
The province can not be Malta or an island;
It has to have either 20 development or be a capital, unless normal or historical nations is turned off, then it can spawn anywhere in a state in Italy that isn't Malta.
And the year has to be 1450 of course.
The OR condition is stating that this can happen outside of Italy in any other nation, just so long as it is a capital with at least 20 development. There is a reason it needs normal or historical nations turned off for this to happen.
This is great stuff. Although Caddo is not the only nation that can do this. I made a video on another one, Mescalero, who can do this too, and even wichita and a few others can. But anyhow, love your video, very informative!
Is it still possible?
@@ANJROTmania I think so. I'm trying right now, and doing pretty well.
This strategy is still possible, it's just harder to do and not as powerful as before.
I made it work with Lipan on v1.29. Biggest difference i found is that natives are harder to beat due to federations. The start is also harder because to reach cholula, you need to take more provinces and fight more nations. I had three wars before i could finally take Cholula.
Make sure to spend your points liberally on development In the video when you stole western tech your points that where in the 3000s went down to 1028
Yup. Found that one out the hard way in a recent Cherokee game. I had over 3000 MP saved in each category, and when I took my first tech after reforming it dropped to 999. Fortunately my game mysteriously crashed and when I reloaded the save I spent my points appropriately (tech, mercantalism, dev, ideas) before reforming.
John Henes "mysteriously crashed" don't worry, even the best of us use task manager when it doesn't go well.
Nicky Bluemenshire haha, glad I'm not the only one
Task manager is love, task manager is live (saver).
for those wondering, just go to 6:53 and watch his diplo points drop 2k just from one tech group.
You make it seem so easy.
Not including all the restarts to get a good initial leader, it's taken me 8 attempts to make this strategy "work". Admittedly a couple of those attempts failed due to stupidity on my part (e.g. triggering a coalition after just 30 years), but my main problem was that as soon as I changed religion to Nahuatl and lost most of the extra troops that the native "Fortified House" building gave me, I'd get jumped by the Aztecs with their 3 shock general (and they always had a general with at least 3 shock), backed by their five vassals (and they always had five). My 2 Mil Tech advantage certainly helped, but the swarms were still too much for me.
On my current attempt I got lucky because I was able to rival Zapotec, which allowed me to ally Xiu. Previously the only significant alliance I'd been able to get was with Colima who then immediately dragged me into a war with Aztec and Tlapanec (idiots!). The alliance with Xiu scared the others away long enough for me to run through the religious reforms, after which I was able to do pretty much as I pleased.
Now my problem is that the Europeans keep attacking. I keep beating them, but they just keep coming back. I've annexed Portugal's Mexican colony twice, and stripped the Thirteen Colonies of the entire Florida peninsula, all in wars that *they* started. But still they keep coming. England's mission for the past 50 years has been to conquer Ireland. During that time they haven't attacked Ireland once, but they've come for me three times. Even though I've rivaled England I've been unable to get any of its enemies to ally me because they all have colonies in the New World and they all want MY land. Even Scotland, whose only colony is landlocked in Colombia, 800km from my nearest border, hates me because they want my land. Go figure.
At the moment I'm facing down the combined invasion forces of France, Spain, Portugal and their seven colonies. This isn't a coalition, just an alliance of like-minded, gold-crazed AIs. Despite having parity in mil tech and a 15% advantage in morale I don't fancy the chances of my 50K troops against their 300K. Perhaps if I hire a dozen mercenaries that will turn it all around...
Well I know this comment is old, but as soon as you reform to steal the European tech which hopefully happens soon after 1500, you need to take exploration ideas and colonize towards Australia. You can start conquering the spice islands area and up through India.
Africa is pretty close also, so you'll have plenty of targets. You should be able to get powerful enough by 1560ish that the Europeans won't be constantly attacking you, and sieging down Australia will be hard for them to do
Yeah the "wants your provinces" modifier is pretty dumb, especially when it comes to the New World. Suddenly every nation in western Europe wants all provinces in the New World so you can't really get alliances in Europe. Still it's not as problematic as you make it seem as the AI is horrible at naval invasions so rather than fighting 50k vs 300k you'll be fighting 50k vs ~20k+~20k+~20k+...n stacks which you can easily annihilate 1 after the other. Moreover you don't even need that much war score to peace the Europeans out for their colonies as they don't value them much at all, like 2-4% war score per colony so it really doesn't take much. Heck as Japan I created Japanese Mexico than kept declaring wars on Spanish Mexico, fully carpet sieging them each time than waiting for Castile and their allies to send puny stacks over to Mexico, only to die by my hand than quickly peace out. Even easier to do as a country based in the New World as you don't need to ferry your own troops across the ocean and deal with the still dumb AI of your colonial allies' armies.
Correct and they will stop attacking you if you get strong allies.. you need to colonize near stuff like India and get whoever is the strongest guy there as an ally, or Ming or the Ottomans if you are lucky. Conquer territory near them that they don't desire to eliminate distance between borders modifier.
Ao Chen yeah but the game has to have some leeway or there's no point creating these nations, no one wants to play them
8:04
Bavaria was fucking huge
Would like to point out that you can use the diplo-points to spend on a Totemist idea that reduces the migration timer, which can speed up the process even further.
Make caddo great again.
How the hell did you maintain 16 regiments with positive monthly income?
High mercantilism?
***** Well, I tried this, and ended up being killed by the Aztecs. Damn the Doom mechanic is stupid.
I think your suppose to fight the small native america tribes to keep doom down, and save Mexico for after you reform.
If the +10 land force limit modifier building persists it may have been that, but I have no idea.
5:03, it was the building.
Dude, your growing pretty quickly. Keep up the good work!
Did this strategy. Ended up taking a Fort, which you can't delete as a Native American tribe. So it slowly bled me to death. Ruined a very fun game.
Well, you shouldn't be taking any land until you are very close to swapping religion, after which, it doesn't seem to matter anymore, you can't make the native buildings anymore and can only make the euro style ones.
Robert Summers you know you can destroy forts right?
I wasn't able to until I reformed from Native. The building list doesn't show up the same way for natives.
hans57kuijpers, what part of you can't destroy forts as a Native American tribe didn't you understand? The building interface is completely different. All you can do is mothball.
Robert Summers Take Chohula, then you'll become a tribal despotism, you can delete the fort
I have one major problem with this brilliant strategy - after no casus belling northern OPMs ana vassalizing them and passing 3 reform the coalitions become pain in the ass and I cannot beat 3 of them in a row :/
What the fuck happened to bavaria in this game??? How did it grow so massively?
1johomojo1 luck
1johomojo1 Europe gets kinda weird in EU4 when you play as a non European nation.
1johomojo1 also probaly ended up becoming emperor which can help
Bavaria??? I wanna know how the fuck the TEUTONS got so big! You SEE those bastards???
+Damien Galindo
Teutons ally Denmark near constantly these days
Denmark comes in and crushes incompetant Poland Lithuania
Seriously their troops just run away...Byzantium Poland strat is near useless because they either don't even fucking come down or let the turks siege them down or kill tiny stacks they send at massive armies god knows why
I'm almost in Caddo territory but I live just between the Osage and Caddo - 20 miles north of the river that's just above the Caddo area (Arkansas River). It's just kind of neat that you can make out the faint outline of states that have rivers as borders. I've wanted to play this game. Steam had it on sale pretty cheap but I went with Hearts of Iron 4 instead. Looks like my cup of tea though.
can you make a video of you playing as caddo?
I've spent the past hour starting/quitting/re-starting Caddo campaigns, trying to get a good ruler. I can't wait to try out this strategy
0:57 Man this aged well
Thanks for the suggestion! I was originally sceptical, but this does look like a lot of fun :D You also have a purpose from the get-go so that also makes the earlier game interesting.
Great video!
Oh and before I forget it was a bit hard to hear what you were saying sometimes, like "mercantilism" and "Nahuatl".
I tried it for the first time now and when I got to Tamaulipas, the Totonac were already vassals of Tlaxcla. 16k vs 25k
I think I go for a 2nd try now xD
Just did this myself. Managed to get protected market in the end too! Really cool strat, thanks
so, you can convert to ahuatl in this strategy
but you can do it with other religion and custom nation too?
you could, but most people don't have the Aztecs DLC, and cannot make custom nations.
ádám rózsa ,
Im preety sure its el doro.
This video is 1 year old now. Let that sink in.
TFW Caddo has new ideas.
i learned a tip from arumba where the points are only lost after a month has passed, so if you passed a reform or embraced an institution the points are still there with the new added bonuses or recently negated negative multipliers
I can't attack other native american tribes early ,they join federations or have allies with at least 3 provinces
“ I even turned the table on the colonisers “ invades and colonises Ireland
lol this shit used to give you -100% tech cost back in 1.17 or some patch. so they already nerfed it into like a "miniexploit" as opposed to the pure overpoweredness it was before
The event isn’t firing and I already cored Cholula (Cuetlaxtlan as it says on my map). Someone help
Hum... Cuextlaxtlan and Cholula are different provinces. Cholula is located just west of Cuex-not-typing-that-again, just check back on the map.
L'Humanoide Errant des Internets Yep, it sure was... In the video Cholula was a costal province so I assumed it’s one of those provinces that change names due to culture. I mean, this video is what? Two years old already? So the provinces to sorta shift. Thanks man!
Is this still a thing, or has it been patched out?
Nahuatl is my favorite religion in this game. The most fun to play with. You're constantly out of the comfort zone because you need to keep sacrificing to please the gods. And after you finish reforming the religion, you are an unstoppable juggernaut.
Okay that is a really cool idea.
I used to go to Caddo Lake in Uncertain, TX all the time. If you go late at night you can sometimes hear the Caddo natives who used to live around the lake. But we do not pronounce it like this guy xD
Almost 2800 hours, think I’m ready to try this strat
What I like about this is that it feels real. There have been tons of small migratory tribes throughout history who started off fighting other small tribes and eventually blobbed into huge powers.
Funny the tribes he attacks have no allies i get in war with 3 tribes when i try to attack one
They are usually vassalized but disloyal, don't attack the disloyal guys and they won't attack you unless possibly they border you and want your land.
8:08 what the fuck is that bavria
i cant migrate, do u need a dlc? i have the mission to migrate but not the "flag thing" bottom right...
you can only migrate every 5 years and not if you have more than one province.
Zarko Cekovski yes but i cant
Hugo Nilsson you need el dorado
ThePizzabrothers Gaming that doesn't work i have el dorado and it doesn't happen for me either
Diddly Doot maybe conquest of paradise? (check the wiki m8)
4:17 I saw a video by SiuKing666 where he didn't turn his computer off for the entire game, and his native advancements stayed, although he could not take any new ones.
Watched this after watching other EU4 videos to get a general impression on whether this is a game I should buy and could enjoy playing. Nope, and nope. I will admire this game's mechanical complexity from far, far away.
MouldySponge
Good on ya,sometimes the game's mechanics give me headaches,but it's a generally fun experience to play it
mihalache codru it’s like when ur playing hoi4 for the first time and have no idea how to organize divisions
While an interesting tactic, I wouldn't say that playing Caddo in this manner is game-breaking OP... a lot still depends on luck, from what I've seen.
I've played several times, and managed to completely reform my religion and conquer all of the Mesoamericans before the Europeans arrived, no problem. But before I could westernize, either the Spanish declared a crusade against me, or the British attacked.
Also... depending on the circumstances, I think flower wars against Mesoamericans is actually easier than no-CB attacks against tribes, in my case. When I took Cholula, it left the Tlaxcala and the Totonac as OPMs, ripe for vassalization, without the stab and WE hits.
Also, thanks for sharing this video! This was my first attempt to play as a new world country, and I had a blast :)
How many people are still attacking across rivers? ^^
Alexander the Great did it!
Lol I guess he had great movement stats
Edit: Wait.. wasn't that in India, where he suffered that major defeat? xD
Battle of Hispapes river was the closest battle of Alexader but he win that too
Has anyone tried the same idea with Wichita? I was looking at trying but can't seem to generate a decent leader with good enough military points.
You wasted around 5k monarch points when you reformed. You can't just hoard on so many points.
Did you not see him use several thousand points to tech up multiple times, and get half of 2 idea groups as well? After your points cap is lowered, you have until the next month until your points are taken down to the cap. You can see his points greyed out at the top showing that he is over and will be reduced.
No, once you embrace institutions of the Europeans, if you spend even 1 monarch point you are brought to your new cap, which is usually 999 (depending if there is another institution making a penalty that isnt embraced or not), so before embracing them make sure you develop/mercantilism up until you have around ~1400 monarch point of each type or so, so teching up will bring you to 999 and not be a waste..
They changed that with the new system, now you have what you had went you reformed even if that is in the thousands, but you only have until the end of the month, or it all gets deleted down to the cap.
No, it does not get lowered at the end of the month, it gets lowered when you spend points. As Andy Guirre said, if you have 3k and you spend any number of points, you get lowered to your cap immediatly. You can see it in the video quite clearly, reduce the speed if you can't catch it.
Geraduss is right actually, after reading his comment I loaded my Aztec save right before reform, and yeah you keep your points until the end of the month even if you spend some of it it doesnt bring you to cap, however it only works on Primitives that reform, it doesnt work on others that just embrace an institution. But as he said that is very new mechanic it seems, and on the video it clearly shows that when he picks a tech it moves him to point cap..
Great video! You earned another sub
Tupinaba / South America is better.
If you go for Panama you can easily get 40 ducats from trade each month.
Recently played a campaign as Wichita using this as a baseline and had an absolute blast... Unless you are a really good player however (hint: I am not), I think the forced conversion through Cholula may actually hamper your progress quite a bit.
It is definitely faster than causing Nauhatl Zealots to rise up, but it also forces you to switch out of native council government, which in the early game, I think, is honestly superior to any of the tribal governments for this specific strategy: cheap units, coupled with unique buildings that boost forcelimit massively, allow you to field an army big enough to give pause to two or even three of the other nauha states at a time and compete with the north american federations (bane of my existence) and chep stability allows you to recover from all the stab hits from the no CB wars.
I have spent the last hour trying to figure out how you migrated in the first place. This game is so great but so fking hard to figure out what you are supposed to do.
So how do you?
You need conquest of paradise.
Then why does this video say EU4 and not EU4 + conquest of paradise?
CLICKBAIT
Hehe, this is so much beyond me, but still cool. Great video.
“Europa universalis is one of the Most intricate games ever made” shows America. This is Europa universalis not americano expresso
I thought that this was a meme video. It was 100% serious and i was not dissapointed.
Mighty Caddo awakened
AYAYAYAYAYY
*DROPS EPIC CADDOAN DUBSTEP*
Does this even still work because I never get the Cholula event
I started as Caddo, but I can't migrate the instant the game starts. What should I do
Epicdude 8428 the real question everybody's asking
Requires Conquest of Paradise doesn't it?
Diddly Doot the question is why are there so many dlcs?
VultureArmy because companies like money
because Paradox can get away with it being the only real developers for real time grand strategy games like EU4
Very interesting. Ive tried a few times, but the Aztecs and such are all allied and vassalized up. Even with 16 stack and Mil tech 3 i get smeared. This seems like you really have to have everything fall into place for you randomly to pull off.
I have to try this
Lapland Mapping hey Lapland ^-^
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8:17 what brown county commands tunis region?
Why Caddo and not any other opm tribe ie Waco?
(also works with the others)
Felix Char Prob cause they're the closest to the Mesoamericans
I think Carib is technically superior in terms of ideas, if you want to go the Mayan route. Mayan reforms give core cost reduction, which is pretty cool.
Well, it works, but it involve tons of restarts or waiting decades for good opportunity. Restarts to get good leader (I had to do like 20 to get someone decend) and then I had to reset 5 times when I got there, cus Aztecs never wanted to involve in the war, so I could not take the province. And when they wanted to get involved, it was as all nations together and you can't fight vs 6 of them at once :)
*Supposedly overpowered tribe*
Also
*smallpox exists*
Never mind then
from my experience the salish can become a beast if guided properly. i have a modernized salish kingdom allied with castille california and my colony in miwak is making me mad ducats, while my territories spanning from british colombia up to canada are getting me great tax revenue
I'm Cree and I played as the Cree :3
"exemplary lesbian hentai"
seems cool
did you lose
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omg Panteleimon you are even here.
my dad works at paradox
tried this as Apache, works well. Thanks!!!!!
I like your channel!Keep doing the good work!I have a question:That "doom thing is a DLC thing or it's just in-game 😊?
Doom is an internal mechanic that nahuatl gets. The religion itself requires El Dorado DLC to even exist the way it is in the video (as far as I remember). Otherwise, you wouldn't have the inner mechanics of vassalizing others.
Sebastian Rigoni too many dlcs,too expensive,not enough money 😢
I know the pain, I have been purchasing things on every sale available... I finally have all the DLC after 2 years of owning the game and catching 80% sales (not playing anything else though)
Sebastian Rigoni that's okay because i own the original game,and 2 DLC's :Songs of Yetude and Women in history😑😑
The game might be expensive but it's my favorite game so it's totally worth it.
I don't know if they have changed since this was made but Aztec and Tarascan ideas don't really look mediocre (though they are not as focused and you don't get the massive edge of being able to see and fight all the northern tribes to quickly improve the religion)
The way he pronounced Caddo hurt me.
3:08 what is that decision swap tech group is this debug mode on
Man, I thought this was a troll before watching.
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Ben Halpern Gay
reported no
Same here lol
Fuck you.
I thought it's gonna be like Glorious Fezzan
Thanks for the video!
Thats looks intersting but my english is to bad and I only understand 30% of the video ;-;
+1 sub
Nebo8 keep watching english videos and maybe read a few books in english and you'll be speaking fluent in english in no time ^^
Nebo8 good luck to you too ^^
narval1234567890 You see my answer ? I deleted because I was thinking you're the guys of the channel and for some reason I didn't rewrite it ^^'
So thank for your advice :p
lutin grognon C'est ce que j'essaye de faire quand je commence une nouvelle série et parfois j'arrive à comprendre sans les sous titre et je commence a comprendre pas mal de youtubeur anglophone mais le mec ici je dois avouer j'ai du mal, Il a un accent assez bizarre ^^
Comment tu as deviné que j'était francophone ? xD
Nebo8 im taking french but listening to fully fluent french comments are still difficult!
So i tried it but for some reason totonac keeps declaring on me when i'm trying to build the +10 force limit building in tamaulipas. Mil tech 3 is normally enough but they have the aztecs and tlaxcala so wot
'ALL DONE WITHOUT MIN MAXING ANYTHING' dude. you dont know what that means.
Nice strategie, I am trying it right now in my current game but I can't declare war to the neighbouring province and get the holy city because they are in a terra incognita... anyone know how I can pass this without having to get an explorer through the national ideas ?
Wow, great vid, thanks!
Despite the spelling, I'm pretty sure Caddo is pronounced as Cay-Doe. But I may be wrong.
i think it's simply ca-do with a native american acent
Louisiana has an abundance of native american names for towns, parishes, etc. Caddo Parish is pronounced as Cad-doe, though I'm not sure how accurate that is to the native tongue.
Hi! Nice strat, but either I am missing something or this is based on a combination of very lucky events.
1) 4/6/5 Ruler - who gets that in a regular game? I've done several rounds and settled on things like 1/4/4 because anything else seems highly unlikely. My problem with this: If you dont get at least 4 on military score, you are going to have a hard time catching up with the mesoamericans.
2) Almost the same as 1) - you need a decent general. Best hope for a decent general is a king with high warscore. Otherwise you'll just have hard time trying to achieve that
3) Depending on the migrational movements of the OPMs you won't have the chance to have too many wars, otherwise you'll trigger a coalition (if you choose to ignore the truces)
4) You are on a time limit, because if you make by 1490 it's a bit to late because your opportunity costs for pursuing this goatchase were already to high.
5) You might potentially be lucky enough to get the right CBs in meso america right away, or you just might not. in which case you'll have to wait and wait again (see 4).
Maybe you have an answer to these problems, because as of right now I dont see how this supposed to work outside of an cozy SP environment with the possibilty to save frequently or yet alone in a competetive MP enviornment.
Greetings
FEW
in my game on last version A.I Caddo survived 1810 (I've yet to finish the game) with 1 mighty province and an alliance with United Kingdom. Alas, they are catholic and not of a native religion. And are surrounded by Usa on North-east and mighty spanish possession in West.
8:17 teutonic order blobbed lol
Hey what happened to y our three mountains video
I tried this and every single native allied and/or formed a federation but then the big kicker came when I found that somehow in the 20 years since the game started almost everyone had become a vassal of zapotec including totonac.
You can also do this with Apache.