The thing is, since nobody else keeps their memory in it except the selected person, we literally COULD be in a groundhog minute every minute of our lives, but we would never know it as the passage of time is constant and smooth from our perspectives. It's entirely possible that some poor fool has been trapped in this minute for centuries, driven to the point of insanity, but to everyone else, it looks like they just had an unprompted mental breakdown over the course of 60 seconds.
@@thatpersonyt247but since the next minute comes, now becoming this minute, we know that there never has been a groundhog minute in the past, even if we don’t know there is one right now. But we will know there isn’t one right now when this minute becomes last minute. You could try to expand from this and say “because a groundhog minute has never happened in the universe’s existence, it is very unlikely for it to happen now
@@connorfries8297 Or, conversely, you could actually make the opposite assumption. Since time has occurred in the past, we can assume that if a groundhog minute is possible, then it must be possible to break out of them - this follows logically, since given great enough time, all possible actions could be taken by the groundhogee, and if we assume that a critical part of groundhog is that there must be some way to break it then eventually the groundhogee will do so - even if it takes relatively nearing-infinite time to escape, it will happen. At the same time, we must consider that a groundhog loop effects all of space simultaneously (that is, there is no spatial aspect to when the loop resets - it universally effects everywhere all at once, rather than blooming out at the speed of light). Considering again the vastness of time and space, and that all combinations of atomic configuration that ever can and will occur have occurred at some point in the universe, then we must be lead to believe that if it is possible for such an event to exist, then there are continual groundhog loops being formed throughout the universe constantly, all naturally ending once their termination circumstances have been reached. The universe is a in a timeless state of groundhog loop - a million infinities of time butted up next to each other, each one activating one plank time after the other, each one taking a relative infinity for their respective groundhogee. All that's happened is that it hasn't been your go yet.
Imagine if every person in the world had their own "Groundhog Day". Everyone knows they exist but the only Groundhog day you remember is your own. Like imagine starting the loop in bar and you tell the guy sitting next to you: "I think I'm having a Groundhog Day" "Good for you, man. Hope you work stuff out. If it gets too much, and you try to off yourself, do it quick. You do NOT want to spend the whole day in pain."
This is an interesting idea! If the entire culture has the awareness of the concept of time loop, then I wonder how much leeway others would give to the looper? For example, if I say to another stranger: "I'm in a time loop and I NEED TO ACCESS YOUR COMPUTER" would they let me? Would the cashiers let me take anything if I can prove it by knowing their "secret time loop code"? The possibilities are endless!
@@user-id2nr1zp1u that is an interesting idea. presumably everyone would grow to have these time loop codes (so someone can't just lie to get what they want, they have to prove they're in a loop). If there was an understood way to break the loop, there would probably be endless tutorials, books, classes etc, 'what to do in case' preparations and time loop survivor groups. If it isn't clear there might be more of an emphasis on entertainment. Roguelike games would be booming. Anything with major replayability really. A time loop sucks, but it's not so bad if it lets you try out all those Terraria challenge runs you didn't have time for before. Depending on how common the phenomenon is, maybe there would be a service or an agreed place in your city to where you can see if anyone else is looping the same day as you, so you have someone to talk to and not go insane with. You'd also have people who judge you for not using your loop effectively enough. You didn't master your craft? Didn't grow enough as a person? When *I* was in my loop I learned how to paint like the old masters. What were *you* doing? etc. Also, you could hear stories from other people about their loops, presumably, and you might even be told about yourself more often, things you didn't even realise. If someone on any given day actively says 'hey, I'm in a time loop' and proves it, and you remember it in the future, you know that was actually their last day in the loop. Maybe you could wonder about that stranger at the bar or go round to congratulate a friend when you realise it's the next day as usual for you.
@@user-id2nr1zp1u no! Don't let them trick you into taking whatever they want... Even with your time-secret. What if its the last day of their time loop, now your stuff is just gone! What if they learned the loop-proving secret from you, but they broke out of their time loop a month ago, and just wandered in today and remembered it... Or learned it from someone else who had a time loop, learned your secret and let it slip after their loop ended. What if they are time looping but it turns out that each loop actually continues for ever as its own multiversal time line schism thing, and there are just trillions of timelines out there where people just vanish and you don't notice ... ... Does the world reset, or does it carry on, with everyone in that time line having to cope with random person vanishing or dying, or setting fire to the woods or whatever
"there's absolutely no way to detect a groundhog day scenario [...] so how do we know it's NOT happening right now?" Interesting you say that since that thought process is kind of intentional. The higher ups at the film studio wanted a scene where a gypsy cursed Bill Murray's character causing the time loop. Obviously this is stupid and the writers protested, so what they did was they purposely scheduled it to be the last thing they filmed so they would purposefully miss the deadline and not have to put the scene in. This allowed the movie to have a wider variety of interpretations, like the one you had just now.
I thought it was his ex girlfriend. There's a short deleted scene where she curses him until he learns to care for others or something. That's why in the last loop, near the end there's a background noise of shattering glass, which is the spell breaking.
I feel like Bill Murray would end up going down the route of Kars from Jojo's. Being unable to do anything for billions, maybe even trillions of years trapped within that singular second, he'd eventually stop thinking.
The movie "The Endless" has a scene like this. Some poor dude is stuck in a 5 second repeating loop that always ends with him being butchered by an invisible monster, and from the way he's dressed it seems like he's been stuck in the loop for hundreds of years
if the start of groundhog day is where this groundhog planck time begins, then it would simply be a question of if bill murray's on his own faced with infinity, could he figure out what lesson he needs to learn on his own. Would being faced with endless darkness for his eyes do not have the time to open and constant silence for the alarm has just 1 picosecond left before it starts to ring lead his thoughts astray as he contemplates a hatred for whatever god has cursed him out of nowhere, would he give up on finding an answer to his wrongdoings and instead find an end by ceasing all thought and waiting out both eternity and no time whatsoever, if he were to do this would he escape the groundhog day loop by simply waiting out infinity? But most importantly of all, would he even be stuck in the loop? the human brain has a speed limit eventually, right? If he cannot think during that moment then it doesn't matter how many 0s he remembers because it's all nothing, he is just another NPC in the world unaware of the time loop whose day moves on while the meat that should inhabit bill murray is sealed for eternity. Or would this mean he simply experiences instant death? Or does everyone's future simply cease when groundhog day ends, therefore the universe just suddenly ceases to be
It does pose an interesting question to have the time loop reset so quick that he hypothetically wouldn’t even be able to think but considering he does retain his memory in normal Groundhog Day I’d assume the speed of the human brain doesn’t really apply. The constant resetting would be retained by his mind like it does on the movie allowing him to think at least I’d imagine. It’s honestly horrifying though if that’s the case, cause it does question if he’d even be able to get any stimulus from his body as a whole since only his thoughts loop it begs the question if he could even experience the sensation of laying in bed. It probably be for him like being paralyzed and blind and deaf all at once and more. He’d be stuck in the dark in his head in sensory deprivation. Unable to do anything but think to himself with such little time.
@@seansharpes9495 It's best that he can't hear. If he can hear, it'd be a single constant supper high pitched tone. I'm not suggesting that his ears can generate a stimulus in his auditory nerves in that time, what I am suggesting is that what ever was on the way from his ears to his brain at the start of the loop would be perpetually heard by him.
There was this scifi short film I watched where someone can set a "respawn time" with this device, and if they die, they're sent back to the moment they set. For years a guy tries to do one particular task, and when he fails every time, he kills himself to be sent back to before so he can try again. Eventually he has a talk with someone and decides to move on and go do something else. As he leaves the building to go somewhere else, he accidentally sets the spawn time right before he steps onto the street and instantly gets hit by a bus. He's now in an infinite time loop of being hit by a bus because he had momentum when the return time was set, he doesn't have time to reverse course in any loop,. so there's no way out. He's going to experience the agony of being hit by a bus for all of eternity, conscious but no way out. To me it's a very horrifying concept that while simple (trapped in a death loop too short to escape from) I've never seen implemented anywhere else. It's been stuck in my mind ever since.
Nice video. It allowed me to define this day. I spent today buying some groceries and trying out a new recipy. My dad wrote me a message stating his respect for how far i made it at this point in my life. While being far from fulfilled or the person i want to be, i would gladly accept it if this day would become groundhog day. Have a good day yourself.
this is why I have codes, if I ever meet someone stuck in a time loop and they can PROVE it to me, I give them my passcode so they can tell it to me next loop and they don't have to spend precious time proving it to me again, it's a code that no one else knows, so I know it'll be real when I hear someone say it
The problem is you'd have to invent a new one every time someone asks you what your code is, claiming to be in a time loop. My personal solution would be to roll a dice a thousand times and I'd believe them if it rolled all sixes, or something like that. The person in the time loop has infinite time, so they'd get lucky eventually, and I wouldn't need to worry because the chance of it happening within a life time is close enough to zero
@@matheuscabral9618 yeah no that's a terrible idea, the roll of the dice is entirely based on technic, the textile of what you roll it on, the position it's in before you roll, the sweat of your hand, and by all mean to a human with the inability to control ALL factors with perfect precision there would be NO possibility of EVERY dice rolling the exact same number a thousand times in a row unbroken even WITH endless amounts of loops as either you would be rolling every time and be rolling the same numbers each loop due to the relatively unchanging circumstances on your end or they would be rolling and they would be unable to control every circumstance, the issue becomes even more apparent if their time loops are unique and require your IMMEDIATE cooperation such as if their loops get consistently shorter in duration before the reset or if there's limited time before an event which would leave you out of participation for the rest of the loop such as an explosion that happens a short time after the start of the loop, having a passcode only YOU know of is substantially better as the person would have several loops, at least 3 in any such situation, to find the right words to convince me they're in a loop and need my passcode, I would only need to give them the code once and they would have the ability to convince me INSTANTLY every single time without fail, having to create a new passcode for every time that happens would be MONUMENTALLY easier than rolling dice with unfailing precision especially in high stales situations, besides how many times do you encounter a time traveler or time looper XD
@@matheuscabral9618 you dont ever need to reveal the code. as you said, if someone is stuck in a timeloop they have infinite time, so they can just guess until they eventually get it right. its just like the dice, the difference is that once they get it once they dont have to redo it the next time, they can just remember the code and use it every time
Send beams of light at some object in space at fixed intervals, but before this, set up the receiver. If you start receiving pings before you send the first, then it means your pocket of space is stuck in a time loop. If it's the entire universe, you're screwed tho
If the loop is localized the that raises the question of what happens if something enters the looped pocket of space from outside and then the loop resets? The object wouldn’t reset to wherever it came from because it came from outside the looped zone, so does it just cease to exist?
@@geraldkenneth119 i would say yes. Goingby groundhog day rules: everything resets back to the start of the loop. The object wasn't there at that time. So it isn't there at the start of the loop. So yeah it just does cease to exist.
2:28 a plank second is so fast that our brains can’t pick it up. We process at 0.14 or maybe it was 0.24 milliseconds. And a plank second is so much smaller. To a point where the universe being locked in a Plank Second is just nothing. Just the universe at a constant perfect standstill.
Wasn't it just 15-30 milliseconds, and not 0.15? But yeah, plank second groundhog day is just a standstill. And everything slightly above human thought speed is an eternal time freeze
@@Romashka_Sovkinda depends on what your processing. The average reaction time is about a quarter of a second, but that includes everything that happens between the light/sound hitting your eye/ear and your muscle contracting. If you’re just talking about how fast a single thought is, it’s probably shorter.
What if the amount of time was random, and you had no way to know how long this loop would last? Sometimes, it would only be a few minutes, and you could barely get anything done. Sometimes, it might be weeks or months, and you'd think you finally got free of the loop, only to blink and be back at the beginning. It would make doing things so much harder, because you'd never know if you had another minute or another month before everything reset.
Like GameJam has said in another comment, from our perspective, there is no difference between a regular day and a time loop, since in our personal timeline, we only experience it once. I might even go a step further and say that because of perspective, we are not even in the time loop and after that day, we just keep going on with our lives and Bill Murray is the only person actually experiencing it. If he gets stuck in an endless time loop, maybe time will still exist and we will go on living after that day, but he wouldn’t. This would sort of cause a paradox since he would change the course of that day, and therefore how the future will go with every iteration, but we are dealing with infinity here.
It wouldn't be a paradox if we live in a multiverse. Every time time loops, a new timeline is created from where the loop starts, and all the old timelines are left alone, allowing them to continue on.
No paradoxes here, and you don't even need to create a multiverse. From your point of perspective, you will just experience the last day of Bill Murray's groundhog day, every other option will be wiped from existence tomorrow
In The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, there is a time loop where the only person who keeps their memories is a robot who’s programming forbids her from altering anything. Even the narrator of the story isn’t aware of it. Had the groups time traveler not noticed that the future no longer exists, they most likely would have been none the wiser and lived mainly blissfully in that loop. Probably the most existentially horrifying part of that experience was the robot. She has to experience everything over 15,000 times and cannot do anything different no matter how much she wants to.
was waiting for this comment, also let me add the fact that the reason they managed to detect and get out of the time loop in the first place was because of the several deja vus they had after being stuck for hundreds of years
Didn’t the Phineas and Ferb finale do this where the time loops kept getting shorter and shorter, to where they desperately had to reach the machine before being trapped in the same second forever
It also led to objects and people disappearing and everyone would forget them,except Candice and Doof. There’s even a joke where a groundhog gets sucked into a portal and nobody knows what a groundhog is.
I'm not sure how long it takes for the human brain to form a memory. But I do know it takes around 13 milliseconds for the brain to perceive a visual stimulus, so the amount of time it takes to remember that stimulus must be greater than 13 milliseconds. So the "good" news is that a Groundhog Planck Length-- or any Groundhog Time Less Than 13 Milliseconds-- is too short for a memory to form. Below 13 milliseconds, there are no Bill Murrays in the time loop.
Yes, but I'm assuming the brain basically carries over from the end to the beginning. So he'll be able to perceive time. Because it will culminate into >13 milliseconds at some point
@@loganboi2166 Oh, crap, you're right. Below 13 milliseconds, he'd still be able to think. Unfortunately for him, he wouldn't be able to move more than a fraction of an inch, if at all, because by the time his muscles received the signal to move, his body would reset into its original position. So basically he'd be fully conscious and locked into a paralyzed body-- forever.
@@waltonsimons12 That's the true horror. And since stimuli would not reach the brain in time (maybe it would if it's already in the body) then you would just feel nothing in an empty void for infinite time with all your thoughts to yourself.
@@loganboi2166 it doesnt have to be an infinite void. if the last thing he saw before entering the loop was say, i dont know, a car moving, he'd just be looking at some random image for the rest of his life.
@@flightyavian4580 yeah, but if it's too fast, there will not be updating images entering the eyes (i.e you literally can't percieve anything new, therefore it will just basically get filled in by the brain and slowly distort into a void) cuz I'm going to assume you can't experience new stimuli from BEFORE the time loop?
I think a groundhog planck-time would just look like time has frozen to Bill Murray. Not entirely, but because it is so little time in each loop that basically nothing can happen, and this infinitely short amount of time continues to repeat potentially forever, it's just an endless amount of no more change from the perspective of an observer who is physically bound by time but who's consciousness remains unaffected.
This reminds me of the song カゲロウデイズ in which 2 people get trapped in a time loop that repeats whenever one of them dies and at the end of the song we get the line 「繰り返して何十年もうとっくに気が付いていたろ」(I realized long ago that it has been repeating for decades) and it always makes me wonder how long ago is "Long ago"? Years? Decades? Centuries?
Another interesting scenario would if it were Groundhog Day, but everyone in the world retained their memories of it, or if half of them retained their memories. Another is if you knew that you would have a Groundhog Day in a few weeks, how would you prepare for it?
see- the rub here is described in that one line: "...it's just Bill Murray's the only who gets to keep his memories." time itself could be looping every millisecond or anything at all, but the only way to tell is to remember it. or, inversely, if we don't remember something, it may as well never never happened at all. in fact, the only reason we think time travel could be possible is because we *remember* the past, it exists purely in our memory as a physical "place" that we might be able to travel to in the right circumstances. so, in actuality, time travel doesn't need to exist, just memory travel.
In Physics we have certain conserved quantities: mass, energy, electric charge, stuff like that We write our equations in such a way that those quantities never change, but here's the thing. When you look at these equations closely you realize that it is completely possible for them to change, except those changes don't make time move forward These quantities can be having random values for a billion years and one day they will have the values they had before, and that will make time move forward, and we will experience it It's like there's the time we experience, and another time we cannot experience. Let's call them time 1 and time 2. We live in time 1, and here the universe makes sense, but time 2 is just pure chaos. There are no laws of physics in time 2, only randomness, but in that randomness sometimes things appear to fulfill the laws of physics, and that makes time 1 move forward Time 2 is just a philosophical idea, of course. There's no way to prove it is real, and even if it was, it wouldn't, because it will never affect us, it will never be real to us... But its fun to think about. I think Cool channel btw, earned a sub
lol came down to mention this and I've been beat to it Anyone who watches The Endless should also check out Resolution. Same universe. Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead have an overall good collection of films to watch.
I mean.. horror is an emotion? so.. if nobody is aware of the loop, then it can't really be horrific except to an outside observer, and then really only in theory.
This is one of those things where various forms are falsifiable, but not provable. If it was a groundhog day, all you need to do is wake up the next day and you've confirmed yesterday wasn't the groundhog day, but maybe today is... only one way to find out.
I always figured he WAS the only one in the time loop. it was how death works. The chance to figure out your mistakes, become better, and achieve what you dreamed of, all with a touch of limbo and some pain along the way. He lives the rest of his natural life from there and all is good from his perspective as he passes away some time later, but in reality he was gone decades ago. maybe that's how it works for all of us. Life is a brutal game with full consequences and no favors. Letting everyone win when they get knocked out of the running is some measure of peace.
You reminded me of a dream i had once. I fell asleep listening to drone music, something about the repetitiveness of it made I think I was living the same moment over and over again, trying to wake up. I really thought I was gonna get stuck like that forever lol
Groundhog plank time is the most terrifying thing imaginable. Being aware of literally every tick of time, it would basically add up to seconds, minutes, days, years... and with time so short, you wouldn't even have enough time to twitch a muscle. It would be like time froze solid and you froze with it, except you'd be aware of your own statue-like fate. Oh and better hope you didn't have any injury or a headache, because that feeling would remain, constant
Groundhock plank time reminds me of an horror SFM where the victim's brain activity is accelerated, thus time passes slower to their perspective. The effect increases until their time slows down to a crawl. A second to the outside world lasts them decades. This raises the question, what would a human do if they were stuck with their thoughts, with no stimuli or senses for infinite time? How long would it take for them to loose sanity? Would the brain eventually shutdown or stop working due to the lack of stimuli?
What about a groundhog lifetime? I.E., you are forced to relive your life if you ever die from the moment you are born. What would that be like? Would it be hell, or would it eventually become paradise? Would we even know if this scenario is happening to us this very moment? Who's to say you haven't experienced it before? Are you getting deja vu from this very comment? Only time will tell...
If you get to keep your memories, it should eventually be paradise, in all but the most horrible starting conditions. If you don't get to keep your memories, well, that's just the way life is if the bulk-time universe theory is correct.
The problem with reincarnation (including this scenario) is that baby brains are literally incapable of maintaining memories, presumably including any from a past life
I've had a similar thought myself. Not a timeloop, but just the fact that you need to take it on faith that the past and future actually exist. You can't know from a purely empirical point whether what you think happened a half second ago actually did, or if that's just the thought you're thinking at this, the only moment.
yeah that's interesting, the part about a planck time. You could pause reality for "1 billion years" and nobody would notice. but if all you experience is a planck time it FEELS like time is stopped.
This reminds me of a movie idea I thought of long ago. I called it Free Will and it's similar to Groundhog Day, but instead of Bill, there's a computer (with a unique component instead of the SSD, although the user doesn't know that prior to the events) and it's much longer than a day
A stray idea I had, if i was in a time loop i feel like it would be interesting to observe how small variations could change peoples day in the loop. The person who keeps their memories should be the only one who's capable of doing new things, but that isnt true, actions taken in the loop can change other people's actions. Simple idea. Someone you know was gonna be angry all day, what if you gave them a complement, this could boost them and they arent so grumpy anymore. From their that person's actions could be entirely different, so what they do could effect people too. I guess I'm saying I wonder how much small variations in your own actions could change other people.
eternal torture for billions of people maybe the governement would fund a research effort to try and find an exit to the loop. But in one day? Can you do anything? Maybe they would find some way to store data reliably as memories so research can progress through iterations Also the world would turn into chaos. It already gets messy when you remove consequences for 1 person, so 8 billion?
A Groundhog day but everyone perceives they're in a loop. What is the "fun" in that, you say? Everybody lives forever, but technology stops evolving; we can't make new movies, we can't record anything, after a while we can't even be sure anymore how many loops we've been through. Money stops to matter. No one can travel very far, unless they have an airplane at their disposal.
@@ThatOneWithTheDragons You fool! Of course im talking about spices in general. Fat always was a natural flavor enhancer available to everyone. Milk is therefore not only spicy white water, but its the spicy white water of the little man.
@@ThatOneWithTheDragons Without looking it up, I believe what you're talking about is capsaicin being oil-soluble rather than water-soluble, and milk contains milk fat, so it can help, uh, solve it. - But, anyway, a whole lot of common substances around us are water soluble. In fact, it's sometimes referred to as the universal solvent. So, if I initial premise (that I didn't look up) is correct, then you'd be suggesting that water is the opposite of all those things, like the opposite of salt and the opposite of sugar.
I thought of this when I was a kiddo and realised there's no way we could realize we are in an actual timeloop, but we can find out we are NOT or, to be fair, we WEREN'T. If we think we are in a one minute timeloop, all we can do is wait 1,00000...1 minutes and we now know we werent. But what if it was a 2 minutes one? Well, we'll have to wait 2,0000...1 minutes from the start. But what about about day? A week? A year? OUR WHOLE LIFE? Well, just wait an instant longer and that's it, cause that's all you'll be able to do... Well, maybe not the whole life part but meh, you wouldn't notice anyway.
My Dad died on 02/02/2024. I held his hand while he took his last breath. It was a privilege to be there with him but somewhat traumatic at the same time. It is still up there as one of my favorite movies of all time.
Well, if we are caught in a Groundhog Day, whoever causes it keeps managing to break the time loop, because every morning I wake up and it's the next day.
If you’re not part of the time difference then I don’t think you’ll notice it. As far as we know it we timetravel could have been invented in a hundred years and they changed something a hundred years ago. Maybe we’re in the bad timeline, or some major incident was prevented.
Why assume anyone else is in a time loop? Obviously, if something like this were possible, there's no reason to think there aren't infinite people all living perfectly normal except for one-man that keeps hopping between dimensions.
A Planck time loop would just feel like being frozen in time. Nowhere near enough is happening for the human brain to comprehend movement. Depending how the loop works, the person stuck might not even be able to think, unless the body is persistent and just kinda continues existing smoothly even when time resets, then you would be able to think.
What if america were stuck in a groundhog millennium, and we all were aware of the loop, except after we die almost a thousand years has to pass, and and then the loop resets and we have to wait almost 200 years to till we're born, in order to experience our little slice of the loop???
i often think what if the universe was a simulation then our simulators could pause the simulation at any moment and we wouldn't notice they could pause it for a million years (for whatever their time scale is) and then start it again maybe they didn't like the way something played out and rewind in time a little bit - rewriting what already exists they could have restarted the universe a million times just to see how things play out differently and in all of those cases we wouldn't even notice the thing that scares me the most though is when they stop the simulation for good. Again for us we wouldn't notice, time just stops because it was never real, it was only a number in the simulation. When the simulation is stopped - its probably not much longer till our simulators stop caring about us all together. We and everything anyone has every done - no - all of human culture all the solar system and universe and everything - its just a file on a computer beyond universal proportions. and then that computer might run out of storage space. As our simulators are cleaning their comic hard drive they find us - everything we ever know and love and ever will know or love - but they view us as nothing more than unnecessary data - so they press 'Delete'.
With sanbox videogames like Minecraft or city-builders, we already have this. We simulate a world and sometimes people. Although they are merely lines of code and not conscious, wouldn't the simulators of our universe think the same of us? If this univsrse is a simulation, conscience doesn't exist, and all state is deterministic. This means that for each instant, everything that happens is determined based on the current state of the universe. The past and future may still exist, in the same way as undo/redo on text editors.
I can’t say too much because of spoilers, but there’s a scene from a horror film called The Endless that tackles this question, and it’s going to stick with anyone who watches it for a long time.
What I find interesting about being trapped in a plank second, something I have thought about far too many times, is the idea that each moment could be the moment that we're looping in, but as soon as you think that the moment is over so it's definitely not. In a similar vein, following from last-thursdayism, each moment could be the moment the universe is created, and you know its created at that moment, but as soon as the moments over you don't know if it was created yet or not.
If you keep seeing the number 3 throughout your day in a way that seems impossible, you might be stuck in a time loop and something about that number is probably important in escaping from it.
Answering the title, how would it be? A nightmare. Imagine being stuck in what's basically a picture in which you're still conscious for the rest of eternity, you try to move, you can try to scream, you can try to cry, you can even try to end yourself, but no matter what you do, you'll be back to the same form you were in a second ago. Forever.
It's a trap, the moment you finish your ice-cream, this guy will start the time loop. Perpetually in the second of sadness that your ice-cream is gone
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If you are in a one sec time loop, everything would look frozen and you are a ghost walking around. But since you get back to the original position you are frozen physically speaking.
Time is arbitrary. The only thing that ought to matter is the "state" of the universe. Since in a groundhog day where nothing is preserved there is no difference between iterations it doesnt really make sense to say its happening at all.
the plank second groundhog day idea is interesting though. If there was an observer they would essentially be frozen in time. Unable to move. But their mind continues to work as normal. I guess they'd achieve some zen state eventually. Probably after a whole lot of anxiety though.
Nietzsche said we're in a groundhog universe, that every event of your life is played on repeat for all eternity. He encourages one to therefore make the best of it.
There was a horror movie where a time loop existed, where the people stuck in the time loop would have to suic*de before the loop reset, or they'd die a more gruesome death. I remember that one of the people there was in a loop so short, that he wouldn't have time to do anything before the reset, which just seems like permanent purgatory really.
Theres a web serial called Worm about people with superpowers, and there's a minor(ish) villain with the power to trap people in second long time loops. They would torture people by injuring them then looping them. Because the loop left people inside aware of the loop, but reverted their body to as it was, they would feel the pain of their injuries over and over and over again.
How tf is it "terrifying" to be in a loop you can't recognize? I could sit through 1000 day long time loops, and come out the other side fine since I only experience 1 loop. This is stupid
Unrelated, but I did pick an icecream just before sitting at the computer, turning on browser, and youtube suggesting me this very video. (Thanks, I think one is enough for now. *wink*)
@@RadioactiveBluePlatypus Sure, if that's what you believe will happen when you die. I see no reason to believe that. There are too many assumptions. What mechanism of the universe would give rise to that, and why? It makes much more sense and takes fare less assumptions to believe that our life will simply come to an end, and everything else will keep on going without us.
I enjoy Groundhog Day. What if there was a Groundhog Week within The Truman Show universe when Truman is finding out his universe is nothing but a sham.
This has similar implications to the simulation hypothesis. If we're living in a simulation, time outside need not relate to time inside. A second might take a billion years to render, or a billion years might take a second. Groundhog Day would just be "reload previous save file" for the simulation. Also, we could be paused at any time and never know it. You could be in the middle of a sentence or taking a piss and suddenly paused for a million years and then resumed without knowing.
Since only Murray knows, it only matters to Murray. To everyone else it's exactly like the previous days never happened, because they didn't, unless you're Murray. So it isn't cruel
The thing is, since nobody else keeps their memory in it except the selected person, we literally COULD be in a groundhog minute every minute of our lives, but we would never know it as the passage of time is constant and smooth from our perspectives. It's entirely possible that some poor fool has been trapped in this minute for centuries, driven to the point of insanity, but to everyone else, it looks like they just had an unprompted mental breakdown over the course of 60 seconds.
We at least know that since each minute keeps coming, they somehow managed to get out of it and time continued as normal
@@brandonchan5387 I mean we wouldn’t know maybe it’s just from their pov.
@@thatpersonyt247but since the next minute comes, now becoming this minute, we know that there never has been a groundhog minute in the past, even if we don’t know there is one right now. But we will know there isn’t one right now when this minute becomes last minute.
You could try to expand from this and say “because a groundhog minute has never happened in the universe’s existence, it is very unlikely for it to happen now
@@connorfries8297 Or, conversely, you could actually make the opposite assumption. Since time has occurred in the past, we can assume that if a groundhog minute is possible, then it must be possible to break out of them - this follows logically, since given great enough time, all possible actions could be taken by the groundhogee, and if we assume that a critical part of groundhog is that there must be some way to break it then eventually the groundhogee will do so - even if it takes relatively nearing-infinite time to escape, it will happen.
At the same time, we must consider that a groundhog loop effects all of space simultaneously (that is, there is no spatial aspect to when the loop resets - it universally effects everywhere all at once, rather than blooming out at the speed of light). Considering again the vastness of time and space, and that all combinations of atomic configuration that ever can and will occur have occurred at some point in the universe, then we must be lead to believe that if it is possible for such an event to exist, then there are continual groundhog loops being formed throughout the universe constantly, all naturally ending once their termination circumstances have been reached.
The universe is a in a timeless state of groundhog loop - a million infinities of time butted up next to each other, each one activating one plank time after the other, each one taking a relative infinity for their respective groundhogee. All that's happened is that it hasn't been your go yet.
Damm guys, amazingly well put was thinking something alike myself
Imagine if every person in the world had their own "Groundhog Day". Everyone knows they exist but the only Groundhog day you remember is your own. Like imagine starting the loop in bar and you tell the guy sitting next to you:
"I think I'm having a Groundhog Day"
"Good for you, man. Hope you work stuff out. If it gets too much, and you try to off yourself, do it quick. You do NOT want to spend the whole day in pain."
This is an interesting idea! If the entire culture has the awareness of the concept of time loop, then I wonder how much leeway others would give to the looper?
For example, if I say to another stranger: "I'm in a time loop and I NEED TO ACCESS YOUR COMPUTER" would they let me? Would the cashiers let me take anything if I can prove it by knowing their "secret time loop code"? The possibilities are endless!
@@user-id2nr1zp1u that is an interesting idea. presumably everyone would grow to have these time loop codes (so someone can't just lie to get what they want, they have to prove they're in a loop). If there was an understood way to break the loop, there would probably be endless tutorials, books, classes etc, 'what to do in case' preparations and time loop survivor groups. If it isn't clear there might be more of an emphasis on entertainment. Roguelike games would be booming. Anything with major replayability really. A time loop sucks, but it's not so bad if it lets you try out all those Terraria challenge runs you didn't have time for before. Depending on how common the phenomenon is, maybe there would be a service or an agreed place in your city to where you can see if anyone else is looping the same day as you, so you have someone to talk to and not go insane with. You'd also have people who judge you for not using your loop effectively enough. You didn't master your craft? Didn't grow enough as a person? When *I* was in my loop I learned how to paint like the old masters. What were *you* doing? etc.
Also, you could hear stories from other people about their loops, presumably, and you might even be told about yourself more often, things you didn't even realise. If someone on any given day actively says 'hey, I'm in a time loop' and proves it, and you remember it in the future, you know that was actually their last day in the loop. Maybe you could wonder about that stranger at the bar or go round to congratulate a friend when you realise it's the next day as usual for you.
@@user-id2nr1zp1u no! Don't let them trick you into taking whatever they want... Even with your time-secret. What if its the last day of their time loop, now your stuff is just gone!
What if they learned the loop-proving secret from you, but they broke out of their time loop a month ago, and just wandered in today and remembered it... Or learned it from someone else who had a time loop, learned your secret and let it slip after their loop ended.
What if they are time looping but it turns out that each loop actually continues for ever as its own multiversal time line schism thing, and there are just trillions of timelines out there where people just vanish and you don't notice ...
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Does the world reset, or does it carry on, with everyone in that time line having to cope with random person vanishing or dying, or setting fire to the woods or whatever
fun fact this is pretty much the lore of rain world
wtf that is such a cool concept. now my brain will attempt worldbuilding it while I try to sleep
Don't forget: The Moral of Groundhog Day is that if you torture someone for long enough, you can achieve whatever personality change you want.
Can you explain this
Roswaal ahh takeaway
i mean living your worst life in a time loop isn’t like infinite torture if you’re unaware of it
for any daily torture > 0, it will sum to infinity though
We once considered a groundhog second and decided he would eventually learn how to jab a finger into his brain just right to feel different sensations
yeah no fuck that, this would make an amazing psychological horror. i hate this
The fact that this video doesn't loop is a missed opportunity
All UA-cam videos loop if you turn loop on
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Yes, but I mean tieing the end back into the start and making the loop seemless
@@ethangraff8036 But it wasn't seamless in Groundhog Day.
"there's absolutely no way to detect a groundhog day scenario [...] so how do we know it's NOT happening right now?" Interesting you say that since that thought process is kind of intentional. The higher ups at the film studio wanted a scene where a gypsy cursed Bill Murray's character causing the time loop. Obviously this is stupid and the writers protested, so what they did was they purposely scheduled it to be the last thing they filmed so they would purposefully miss the deadline and not have to put the scene in. This allowed the movie to have a wider variety of interpretations, like the one you had just now.
Also good since they avoided using a literal slur.
yeah it was the piano lady who cursed him
real ones will understand
@@Spax_No it was the life insurance guy
I thought it was his ex girlfriend. There's a short deleted scene where she curses him until he learns to care for others or something. That's why in the last loop, near the end there's a background noise of shattering glass, which is the spell breaking.
@@DeathnoteBB better watch that first step, it's a doozy!!
Now imagine a similar scenario, but the sun explodes every 22 minutes!
Just enough time to watch an episode of Seinfeld
@@goodbye_galaxy And roast marshmallows!
I would say what this is referencing but that would be spoilers DONT LOOK IT UP
Just enough to become the best archeologists in system!
@@spoopywhiskers can you at least tell me where it’s from
I feel like Bill Murray would end up going down the route of Kars from Jojo's.
Being unable to do anything for billions, maybe even trillions of years trapped within that singular second, he'd eventually stop thinking.
Or as Flowey, making the best day for everybody then doing What if, to ending just killing everybody again and again
Prime position to become monk?
@@unusuariodinternet In a single second? Cause we're talking about Groundhog Second here.
For the Planck time he wouldn’t even have time to process anything
@@theworm7156 he could just be frozen in place? But yeah that's right.
The movie "The Endless" has a scene like this. Some poor dude is stuck in a 5 second repeating loop that always ends with him being butchered by an invisible monster, and from the way he's dressed it seems like he's been stuck in the loop for hundreds of years
I was literally thinking about that movie while watching this video. One of the most fascinating and eerie depictions of time loops.
if the start of groundhog day is where this groundhog planck time begins, then it would simply be a question of if bill murray's on his own faced with infinity, could he figure out what lesson he needs to learn on his own. Would being faced with endless darkness for his eyes do not have the time to open and constant silence for the alarm has just 1 picosecond left before it starts to ring lead his thoughts astray as he contemplates a hatred for whatever god has cursed him out of nowhere, would he give up on finding an answer to his wrongdoings and instead find an end by ceasing all thought and waiting out both eternity and no time whatsoever, if he were to do this would he escape the groundhog day loop by simply waiting out infinity?
But most importantly of all, would he even be stuck in the loop? the human brain has a speed limit eventually, right? If he cannot think during that moment then it doesn't matter how many 0s he remembers because it's all nothing, he is just another NPC in the world unaware of the time loop whose day moves on while the meat that should inhabit bill murray is sealed for eternity. Or would this mean he simply experiences instant death? Or does everyone's future simply cease when groundhog day ends, therefore the universe just suddenly ceases to be
It does pose an interesting question to have the time loop reset so quick that he hypothetically wouldn’t even be able to think but considering he does retain his memory in normal Groundhog Day I’d assume the speed of the human brain doesn’t really apply. The constant resetting would be retained by his mind like it does on the movie allowing him to think at least I’d imagine. It’s honestly horrifying though if that’s the case, cause it does question if he’d even be able to get any stimulus from his body as a whole since only his thoughts loop it begs the question if he could even experience the sensation of laying in bed. It probably be for him like being paralyzed and blind and deaf all at once and more. He’d be stuck in the dark in his head in sensory deprivation. Unable to do anything but think to himself with such little time.
Having read your question and thought through every angle and philosophical quandary posed, I can tell you with absolute certainty. The answer is 42.
@@seansharpes9495 It's best that he can't hear. If he can hear, it'd be a single constant supper high pitched tone. I'm not suggesting that his ears can generate a stimulus in his auditory nerves in that time, what I am suggesting is that what ever was on the way from his ears to his brain at the start of the loop would be perpetually heard by him.
There was this scifi short film I watched where someone can set a "respawn time" with this device, and if they die, they're sent back to the moment they set. For years a guy tries to do one particular task, and when he fails every time, he kills himself to be sent back to before so he can try again. Eventually he has a talk with someone and decides to move on and go do something else. As he leaves the building to go somewhere else, he accidentally sets the spawn time right before he steps onto the street and instantly gets hit by a bus. He's now in an infinite time loop of being hit by a bus because he had momentum when the return time was set, he doesn't have time to reverse course in any loop,. so there's no way out. He's going to experience the agony of being hit by a bus for all of eternity, conscious but no way out. To me it's a very horrifying concept that while simple (trapped in a death loop too short to escape from) I've never seen implemented anywhere else. It's been stuck in my mind ever since.
Name?
So like when you're really unlucky with your autosave in a video game?
@@MySerpentine Yep
Nice video. It allowed me to define this day.
I spent today buying some groceries and trying out a new recipy. My dad wrote me a message stating his respect for how far i made it at this point in my life.
While being far from fulfilled or the person i want to be, i would gladly accept it if this day would become groundhog day.
Have a good day yourself.
Oof
eeyikes!
That sounds nice! :)
this is why I have codes, if I ever meet someone stuck in a time loop and they can PROVE it to me, I give them my passcode so they can tell it to me next loop and they don't have to spend precious time proving it to me again, it's a code that no one else knows, so I know it'll be real when I hear someone say it
The problem is you'd have to invent a new one every time someone asks you what your code is, claiming to be in a time loop.
My personal solution would be to roll a dice a thousand times and I'd believe them if it rolled all sixes, or something like that. The person in the time loop has infinite time, so they'd get lucky eventually, and I wouldn't need to worry because the chance of it happening within a life time is close enough to zero
@@matheuscabral9618 yeah no that's a terrible idea, the roll of the dice is entirely based on technic, the textile of what you roll it on, the position it's in before you roll, the sweat of your hand, and by all mean to a human with the inability to control ALL factors with perfect precision there would be NO possibility of EVERY dice rolling the exact same number a thousand times in a row unbroken even WITH endless amounts of loops as either you would be rolling every time and be rolling the same numbers each loop due to the relatively unchanging circumstances on your end or they would be rolling and they would be unable to control every circumstance, the issue becomes even more apparent if their time loops are unique and require your IMMEDIATE cooperation such as if their loops get consistently shorter in duration before the reset or if there's limited time before an event which would leave you out of participation for the rest of the loop such as an explosion that happens a short time after the start of the loop, having a passcode only YOU know of is substantially better as the person would have several loops, at least 3 in any such situation, to find the right words to convince me they're in a loop and need my passcode, I would only need to give them the code once and they would have the ability to convince me INSTANTLY every single time without fail, having to create a new passcode for every time that happens would be MONUMENTALLY easier than rolling dice with unfailing precision especially in high stales situations, besides how many times do you encounter a time traveler or time looper XD
Oh shoot, forgot to tell you. Uh, "$62.95 deluxe ham sandwich combo".
@@matheuscabral9618 you dont ever need to reveal the code. as you said, if someone is stuck in a timeloop they have infinite time, so they can just guess until they eventually get it right. its just like the dice, the difference is that once they get it once they dont have to redo it the next time, they can just remember the code and use it every time
@@paulamarina04 ooooooh, I totally missed that, makes a lot more sense, thanks👍
Send beams of light at some object in space at fixed intervals, but before this, set up the receiver. If you start receiving pings before you send the first, then it means your pocket of space is stuck in a time loop. If it's the entire universe, you're screwed tho
If the loop is localized the that raises the question of what happens if something enters the looped pocket of space from outside and then the loop resets? The object wouldn’t reset to wherever it came from because it came from outside the looped zone, so does it just cease to exist?
@@geraldkenneth119 It would likely go to the spot where it entered the time loop space
@@geraldkenneth119 i would say yes. Goingby groundhog day rules: everything resets back to the start of the loop. The object wasn't there at that time. So it isn't there at the start of the loop. So yeah it just does cease to exist.
They actually explored this briefly in a Stargate episode
2:28 a plank second is so fast that our brains can’t pick it up. We process at 0.14 or maybe it was 0.24 milliseconds. And a plank second is so much smaller. To a point where the universe being locked in a Plank Second is just nothing. Just the universe at a constant perfect standstill.
Wasn't it just 15-30 milliseconds, and not 0.15?
But yeah, plank second groundhog day is just a standstill. And everything slightly above human thought speed is an eternal time freeze
@@Romashka_Sovkinda depends on what your processing. The average reaction time is about a quarter of a second, but that includes everything that happens between the light/sound hitting your eye/ear and your muscle contracting. If you’re just talking about how fast a single thought is, it’s probably shorter.
Light would travel one plank length in that time but everything else would be slower
What if the amount of time was random, and you had no way to know how long this loop would last? Sometimes, it would only be a few minutes, and you could barely get anything done. Sometimes, it might be weeks or months, and you'd think you finally got free of the loop, only to blink and be back at the beginning. It would make doing things so much harder, because you'd never know if you had another minute or another month before everything reset.
Like the fear hole
This is just sans undertale
Thanks for the existential crisis!
Like GameJam has said in another comment, from our perspective, there is no difference between a regular day and a time loop, since in our personal timeline, we only experience it once. I might even go a step further and say that because of perspective, we are not even in the time loop and after that day, we just keep going on with our lives and Bill Murray is the only person actually experiencing it. If he gets stuck in an endless time loop, maybe time will still exist and we will go on living after that day, but he wouldn’t. This would sort of cause a paradox since he would change the course of that day, and therefore how the future will go with every iteration, but we are dealing with infinity here.
It wouldn't be a paradox if we live in a multiverse. Every time time loops, a new timeline is created from where the loop starts, and all the old timelines are left alone, allowing them to continue on.
No paradoxes here, and you don't even need to create a multiverse. From your point of perspective, you will just experience the last day of Bill Murray's groundhog day, every other option will be wiped from existence tomorrow
In The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, there is a time loop where the only person who keeps their memories is a robot who’s programming forbids her from altering anything. Even the narrator of the story isn’t aware of it. Had the groups time traveler not noticed that the future no longer exists, they most likely would have been none the wiser and lived mainly blissfully in that loop.
Probably the most existentially horrifying part of that experience was the robot. She has to experience everything over 15,000 times and cannot do anything different no matter how much she wants to.
was waiting for this comment, also let me add the fact that the reason they managed to detect and get out of the time loop in the first place was because of the several deja vus they had after being stuck for hundreds of years
Didn’t the Phineas and Ferb finale do this where the time loops kept getting shorter and shorter, to where they desperately had to reach the machine before being trapped in the same second forever
oh yeah they did do that didn't they
It also led to objects and people disappearing and everyone would forget them,except Candice and Doof. There’s even a joke where a groundhog gets sucked into a portal and nobody knows what a groundhog is.
I'm not sure how long it takes for the human brain to form a memory. But I do know it takes around 13 milliseconds for the brain to perceive a visual stimulus, so the amount of time it takes to remember that stimulus must be greater than 13 milliseconds. So the "good" news is that a Groundhog Planck Length-- or any Groundhog Time Less Than 13 Milliseconds-- is too short for a memory to form. Below 13 milliseconds, there are no Bill Murrays in the time loop.
Yes, but I'm assuming the brain basically carries over from the end to the beginning. So he'll be able to perceive time. Because it will culminate into >13 milliseconds at some point
@@loganboi2166 Oh, crap, you're right. Below 13 milliseconds, he'd still be able to think. Unfortunately for him, he wouldn't be able to move more than a fraction of an inch, if at all, because by the time his muscles received the signal to move, his body would reset into its original position. So basically he'd be fully conscious and locked into a paralyzed body-- forever.
@@waltonsimons12 That's the true horror. And since stimuli would not reach the brain in time (maybe it would if it's already in the body) then you would just feel nothing in an empty void for infinite time with all your thoughts to yourself.
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it doesnt have to be an infinite void.
if the last thing he saw before entering the loop was say, i dont know, a car moving, he'd just be looking at some random image for the rest of his life.
@@flightyavian4580 yeah, but if it's too fast, there will not be updating images entering the eyes (i.e you literally can't percieve anything new, therefore it will just basically get filled in by the brain and slowly distort into a void) cuz I'm going to assume you can't experience new stimuli from BEFORE the time loop?
I think a groundhog planck-time would just look like time has frozen to Bill Murray. Not entirely, but because it is so little time in each loop that basically nothing can happen, and this infinitely short amount of time continues to repeat potentially forever, it's just an endless amount of no more change from the perspective of an observer who is physically bound by time but who's consciousness remains unaffected.
I would have ice cream, but after watching this I'm paranoid of getting trapped in a groundhog second of eternal brain freeze.
This reminds me of the song カゲロウデイズ in which 2 people get trapped in a time loop that repeats whenever one of them dies and at the end of the song we get the line 「繰り返して何十年もうとっくに気が付いていたろ」(I realized long ago that it has been repeating for decades) and it always makes me wonder how long ago is "Long ago"? Years? Decades? Centuries?
on mobile I can't copy from your comment
how do I type out that name?
@@NoNameAtAll2 It's called "Kagerou daze" (Technically "Kagerо̄" but "Kagerou" is also used).
Yo, Kagerou Daze mentioned 👀
Banger song, with a banger story. 7/10 too much blood (jk, it's def at least an 8 lol)
"stop dying bruh"
This is EXACTLY the kind of thoughts I have on a day-to-day basis
Another interesting scenario would if it were Groundhog Day, but everyone in the world retained their memories of it, or if half of them retained their memories. Another is if you knew that you would have a Groundhog Day in a few weeks, how would you prepare for it?
see- the rub here is described in that one line: "...it's just Bill Murray's the only who gets to keep his memories."
time itself could be looping every millisecond or anything at all, but the only way to tell is to remember it. or, inversely, if we don't remember something, it may as well never never happened at all. in fact, the only reason we think time travel could be possible is because we *remember* the past, it exists purely in our memory as a physical "place" that we might be able to travel to in the right circumstances. so, in actuality, time travel doesn't need to exist, just memory travel.
In Physics we have certain conserved quantities: mass, energy, electric charge, stuff like that
We write our equations in such a way that those quantities never change, but here's the thing. When you look at these equations closely you realize that it is completely possible for them to change, except those changes don't make time move forward
These quantities can be having random values for a billion years and one day they will have the values they had before, and that will make time move forward, and we will experience it
It's like there's the time we experience, and another time we cannot experience. Let's call them time 1 and time 2. We live in time 1, and here the universe makes sense, but time 2 is just pure chaos. There are no laws of physics in time 2, only randomness, but in that randomness sometimes things appear to fulfill the laws of physics, and that makes time 1 move forward
Time 2 is just a philosophical idea, of course. There's no way to prove it is real, and even if it was, it wouldn't, because it will never affect us, it will never be real to us...
But its fun to think about. I think
Cool channel btw, earned a sub
Saying any more may spoil the 'twist', but I would recommend the film The Endless (2017).
Makes you want to take a second to go camping... in a tent...
_music starts looping_
I was wondering if anybody would mention The Endless.
lol came down to mention this and I've been beat to it
Anyone who watches The Endless should also check out Resolution. Same universe. Justin Benson and Aaron Moorhead have an overall good collection of films to watch.
the endless mentioned‼
I still want to watch that, just didn't get the time. >_
I mean.. horror is an emotion? so.. if nobody is aware of the loop, then it can't really be horrific except to an outside observer, and then really only in theory.
This is one of those things where various forms are falsifiable, but not provable. If it was a groundhog day, all you need to do is wake up the next day and you've confirmed yesterday wasn't the groundhog day, but maybe today is... only one way to find out.
Imagine there's a Bill Murray out there who triggers the time loop just as I was about to smash the like button.
I always figured he WAS the only one in the time loop. it was how death works.
The chance to figure out your mistakes, become better, and achieve what you dreamed of, all with a touch of limbo and some pain along the way.
He lives the rest of his natural life from there and all is good from his perspective as he passes away some time later, but in reality he was gone decades ago.
maybe that's how it works for all of us. Life is a brutal game with full consequences and no favors. Letting everyone win when they get knocked out of the running is some measure of peace.
You reminded me of a dream i had once. I fell asleep listening to drone music, something about the repetitiveness of it made I think I was living the same moment over and over again, trying to wake up. I really thought I was gonna get stuck like that forever lol
Groundhog plank time is the most terrifying thing imaginable. Being aware of literally every tick of time, it would basically add up to seconds, minutes, days, years... and with time so short, you wouldn't even have enough time to twitch a muscle. It would be like time froze solid and you froze with it, except you'd be aware of your own statue-like fate. Oh and better hope you didn't have any injury or a headache, because that feeling would remain, constant
Groundhock plank time reminds me of an horror SFM where the victim's brain activity is accelerated, thus time passes slower to their perspective. The effect increases until their time slows down to a crawl. A second to the outside world lasts them decades.
This raises the question, what would a human do if they were stuck with their thoughts, with no stimuli or senses for infinite time? How long would it take for them to loose sanity? Would the brain eventually shutdown or stop working due to the lack of stimuli?
@@5cover Stephen King wrote a short story like that.
What about a groundhog lifetime? I.E., you are forced to relive your life if you ever die from the moment you are born. What would that be like? Would it be hell, or would it eventually become paradise? Would we even know if this scenario is happening to us this very moment? Who's to say you haven't experienced it before? Are you getting deja vu from this very comment? Only time will tell...
What if every single person that will EVER live remembers their previous lifetimes and we're just in the first loop?
If you get to keep your memories, it should eventually be paradise, in all but the most horrible starting conditions. If you don't get to keep your memories, well, that's just the way life is if the bulk-time universe theory is correct.
@aaronrivera2511 Read "The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August".
The problem with reincarnation (including this scenario) is that baby brains are literally incapable of maintaining memories, presumably including any from a past life
@@TheRenegade...
perhaps you'd find yourself at whenever you're old enough to retain memories, maybe 5-6 years old.
this makes me think u should play outer wilds
I've had a similar thought myself. Not a timeloop, but just the fact that you need to take it on faith that the past and future actually exist. You can't know from a purely empirical point whether what you think happened a half second ago actually did, or if that's just the thought you're thinking at this, the only moment.
I was literally getting ice cream already as I watched this. Who knows how many times I’ve looped this moment haha
I am in an eternal state of having pins and needles! 😨
yeah that's interesting, the part about a planck time. You could pause reality for "1 billion years" and nobody would notice. but if all you experience is a planck time it FEELS like time is stopped.
If it's a plank time, time is literally stopped, without "it FEELS like"
This reminds me of a movie idea I thought of long ago. I called it Free Will and it's similar to Groundhog Day, but instead of Bill, there's a computer (with a unique component instead of the SSD, although the user doesn't know that prior to the events) and it's much longer than a day
A stray idea I had, if i was in a time loop i feel like it would be interesting to observe how small variations could change peoples day in the loop.
The person who keeps their memories should be the only one who's capable of doing new things, but that isnt true, actions taken in the loop can change other people's actions.
Simple idea. Someone you know was gonna be angry all day, what if you gave them a complement, this could boost them and they arent so grumpy anymore. From their that person's actions could be entirely different, so what they do could effect people too.
I guess I'm saying I wonder how much small variations in your own actions could change other people.
Look into Mother of Learning. It's a book series.
what about a groundhog day but everybody keeps their memories
eternal torture for billions of people
maybe the governement would fund a research effort to try and find an exit to the loop. But in one day? Can you do anything?
Maybe they would find some way to store data reliably as memories so research can progress through iterations
Also the world would turn into chaos. It already gets messy when you remove consequences for 1 person, so 8 billion?
This would mean no consequences for anyone, so depending on where you are and who you are with, it would either be like a dream, or a nightmare...
"There is no future, there is no past, there is only groundhog day" - getting so close to Dharmic cosmology there.
A Groundhog day but everyone perceives they're in a loop.
What is the "fun" in that, you say? Everybody lives forever, but technology stops evolving; we can't make new movies, we can't record anything, after a while we can't even be sure anymore how many loops we've been through. Money stops to matter. No one can travel very far, unless they have an airplane at their disposal.
I would love to go enjoy some ice cream, one small problem, you haven't explained to us what ice cream is!
The entire concept of "milk" really needs a deep dive.
@@goodbye_galaxyspicy white water
You can use this knowledge
@@andrefasching1332 wouldn’t milk be the opposite of spicy? Because milk breaks down capsicin?
@@ThatOneWithTheDragons You fool!
Of course im talking about spices in general. Fat always was a natural flavor enhancer available to everyone.
Milk is therefore not only spicy white water, but its the spicy white water of the little man.
@@ThatOneWithTheDragons Without looking it up, I believe what you're talking about is capsaicin being oil-soluble rather than water-soluble, and milk contains milk fat, so it can help, uh, solve it.
- But, anyway, a whole lot of common substances around us are water soluble. In fact, it's sometimes referred to as the universal solvent. So, if I initial premise (that I didn't look up) is correct, then you'd be suggesting that water is the opposite of all those things, like the opposite of salt and the opposite of sugar.
omg imagine if he just copy pasted the video so it actually looped right at the end, I'd lose my mind!
groundhog 22 minutes
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I thought of this when I was a kiddo and realised there's no way we could realize we are in an actual timeloop, but we can find out we are NOT or, to be fair, we WEREN'T.
If we think we are in a one minute timeloop, all we can do is wait 1,00000...1 minutes and we now know we werent. But what if it was a 2 minutes one? Well, we'll have to wait 2,0000...1 minutes from the start. But what about about day? A week? A year? OUR WHOLE LIFE? Well, just wait an instant longer and that's it, cause that's all you'll be able to do... Well, maybe not the whole life part but meh, you wouldn't notice anyway.
My Dad died on 02/02/2024.
I held his hand while he took his last breath. It was a privilege to be there with him but somewhat traumatic at the same time.
It is still up there as one of my favorite movies of all time.
2:11 essentially experiencing time as being frozen
NOOOO! At the end you told me to "go have some ice cream," but I just finished it... there is none left for me to have 😢😭
Thanks for the new existential horror fear of the idea of being stuck in a groundhog planck time.
Well, if we are caught in a Groundhog Day, whoever causes it keeps managing to break the time loop, because every morning I wake up and it's the next day.
Just because one person is in a time loop doesn’t mean everyone else is, could be universe hopping or something else
If you’re not part of the time difference then I don’t think you’ll notice it. As far as we know it we timetravel could have been invented in a hundred years and they changed something a hundred years ago. Maybe we’re in the bad timeline, or some major incident was prevented.
Why assume anyone else is in a time loop?
Obviously, if something like this were possible, there's no reason to think there aren't infinite people all living perfectly normal except for one-man that keeps hopping between dimensions.
A Planck time loop would just feel like being frozen in time. Nowhere near enough is happening for the human brain to comprehend movement. Depending how the loop works, the person stuck might not even be able to think, unless the body is persistent and just kinda continues existing smoothly even when time resets, then you would be able to think.
What if america were stuck in a groundhog millennium, and we all were aware of the loop, except after we die almost a thousand years has to pass, and and then the loop resets and we have to wait almost 200 years to till we're born, in order to experience our little slice of the loop???
i often think what if the universe was a simulation
then our simulators could pause the simulation at any moment and we wouldn't notice
they could pause it for a million years (for whatever their time scale is) and then start it again
maybe they didn't like the way something played out and rewind in time a little bit - rewriting what already exists
they could have restarted the universe a million times just to see how things play out differently
and in all of those cases we wouldn't even notice
the thing that scares me the most though is when they stop the simulation for good.
Again for us we wouldn't notice, time just stops because it was never real, it was only a number in the simulation.
When the simulation is stopped - its probably not much longer till our simulators stop caring about us all together.
We and everything anyone has every done - no - all of human culture all the solar system and universe and everything - its just a file on a computer beyond universal proportions.
and then that computer might run out of storage space. As our simulators are cleaning their comic hard drive they find us - everything we ever know and love and ever will know or love - but they view us as nothing more than unnecessary data - so they press 'Delete'.
With sanbox videogames like Minecraft or city-builders, we already have this. We simulate a world and sometimes people. Although they are merely lines of code and not conscious, wouldn't the simulators of our universe think the same of us? If this univsrse is a simulation, conscience doesn't exist, and all state is deterministic. This means that for each instant, everything that happens is determined based on the current state of the universe. The past and future may still exist, in the same way as undo/redo on text editors.
Thanks for the 3am existen- reminder to get ice cream. I knew I was forgetting something.
I like how the only possible way to escape our time loop is the existence of Bill Murray
well thanks, now we're gonna have an existential crisis thinking about the idea of reliving the same second or two over and over, unable to escape
And that's why every moment in time is so precious to me.
Saying now takes more time than the smallest measurement of time
Welp, *time to learn some ice sculpting.*
I can’t say too much because of spoilers, but there’s a scene from a horror film called The Endless that tackles this question, and it’s going to stick with anyone who watches it for a long time.
What I find interesting about being trapped in a plank second, something I have thought about far too many times, is the idea that each moment could be the moment that we're looping in, but as soon as you think that the moment is over so it's definitely not. In a similar vein, following from last-thursdayism, each moment could be the moment the universe is created, and you know its created at that moment, but as soon as the moments over you don't know if it was created yet or not.
Death may be the always repeating planck time unit.
If you keep seeing the number 3 throughout your day in a way that seems impossible, you might be stuck in a time loop and something about that number is probably important in escaping from it.
I would like to have a time loop that starts at August 6, 2012 and ends on August 6, 2024.
ah I would love to recommend a movie but the time loop bit is the plot twist
one of the time loop pocket dimensions is one second of a guy jumping out of his chair to run from a monster and getting killed over and over
Answering the title, how would it be? A nightmare. Imagine being stuck in what's basically a picture in which you're still conscious for the rest of eternity, you try to move, you can try to scream, you can try to cry, you can even try to end yourself, but no matter what you do, you'll be back to the same form you were in a second ago. Forever.
We can't know we're not doing it now, but we can know we weren't doing it earlier.
It's a trap, the moment you finish your ice-cream, this guy will start the time loop. Perpetually in the second of sadness that your ice-cream is gone
If you are in a one sec time loop, everything would look frozen and you are a ghost walking around. But since you get back to the original position you are frozen physically speaking.
We could know that we are not in a Groundhog Day by waiting and looking back. Tomorrow I will know that I wasn’t in one today.
I think I'm going to be thinking about this short video every time I have ice cream, for years to come.
Time is arbitrary. The only thing that ought to matter is the "state" of the universe. Since in a groundhog day where nothing is preserved there is no difference between iterations it doesnt really make sense to say its happening at all.
the plank second groundhog day idea is interesting though. If there was an observer they would essentially be frozen in time. Unable to move. But their mind continues to work as normal. I guess they'd achieve some zen state eventually. Probably after a whole lot of anxiety though.
"There is the theory of the Moebius. A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
I have always thought a great horror premise would be a time loop that starts at a day but gets shorter every looñ
Groundhog Weekend At Bernie's
Nietzsche said we're in a groundhog universe, that every event of your life is played on repeat for all eternity. He encourages one to therefore make the best of it.
every time a Source game loads-- oads-- oads-- oads-- oads--
There was a horror movie where a time loop existed, where the people stuck in the time loop would have to suic*de before the loop reset, or they'd die a more gruesome death. I remember that one of the people there was in a loop so short, that he wouldn't have time to do anything before the reset, which just seems like permanent purgatory really.
Theres a web serial called Worm about people with superpowers, and there's a minor(ish) villain with the power to trap people in second long time loops. They would torture people by injuring them then looping them. Because the loop left people inside aware of the loop, but reverted their body to as it was, they would feel the pain of their injuries over and over and over again.
We have memories, a Groundhog Day isn’t happening, maybe a groundhog life
How tf is it "terrifying" to be in a loop you can't recognize?
I could sit through 1000 day long time loops, and come out the other side fine since I only experience 1 loop.
This is stupid
Reminds me a little of "The Jaunt" by Stephen King. "It's eternity in there."
dude wow. “now” genuinely kinda scared me
I'm reminded of Black Mirror's episode White Christmas when you mention the groundhog second. O_O Eep.
Unrelated, but I did pick an icecream just before sitting at the computer, turning on browser, and youtube suggesting me this very video. (Thanks, I think one is enough for now. *wink*)
My sandwich has shrunk since i started watching so im pretty sure its at least nit groundhog minute
When you think about it, death is kinda like that.
kinda like what?
@@kingcrimson4133 a plank time loop
@@RadioactiveBluePlatypus Sure, if that's what you believe will happen when you die. I see no reason to believe that. There are too many assumptions. What mechanism of the universe would give rise to that, and why? It makes much more sense and takes fare less assumptions to believe that our life will simply come to an end, and everything else will keep on going without us.
Saiki K does this in a one off gag. He's stuck within a few seconds.
source: I hyperfixate on time loops and know lots of them in anime >.>
I enjoy Groundhog Day. What if there was a Groundhog Week within The Truman Show universe when Truman is finding out his universe is nothing but a sham.
This has similar implications to the simulation hypothesis. If we're living in a simulation, time outside need not relate to time inside. A second might take a billion years to render, or a billion years might take a second. Groundhog Day would just be "reload previous save file" for the simulation. Also, we could be paused at any time and never know it. You could be in the middle of a sentence or taking a piss and suddenly paused for a million years and then resumed without knowing.
Since only Murray knows, it only matters to Murray. To everyone else it's exactly like the previous days never happened, because they didn't, unless you're Murray. So it isn't cruel