@@a.mo7a We shall have to see where the story goes, I'm just saying it's officially stated that the Night Springs DLC are failed attempts at Alan's escape, - before the events of Alan Wake 2
@@NotFrickingNickAND IT MAKES SENSE CAUSE ALAN AND ZANE ARENT EXACTLY THE SAME BUT LIKE ALTERNATE VERSIONS! I don’t think they created each other they just found each other through the dark place. Two alternate selves. The writer and the filmmaker.
@@NotFrickingNick Ever since I saw Ahti consistently call Alan "Tom", I figured Alan Wake is just Tom Zane's alter-ego, maybe a reinvented self trying to recover some control after his catastrophic encounter with the Dark Presence. The "Alan is Tom" theory definitely gets a boost from that image too!
Lance was phenomenal. Loved everything he did to fringe John wick horizon zero dawn quantum break and even the funny or die skit he did way back. Most definitely would have been there for wake 2 and the musical. Sucks he had leave us so soon
Loved what David harewood offered though. He’s a bit of a tasteful replacement id say but is unique in his own way that gives exactly an ominous presence the role needed him to be. Remedy team did a damn fine job. AW 2 is one of my fave games ever thanks to its very interesting story telling
Recently I started to play it on my xbox and it is a little laggy but works so well. This game is interesting for me c: I am trying to play through everything until the end and I hope I would love it
[The third story's idea of multiversal video games kinda reminds me of dbd, and how the licensed characters used in that game are canonically video game/movie characters in other universes]
I got a weird thought that Rose’s story is how Alan was trapped by Door. Door’s dialogue that states a happy ending ending for some (Rose) hints this was a bad end for Alan as he is trapped by Rose’s fanaticism. North Star shows him as the imprisoned sibling perhaps because he was imprisoned in the first episode. Dylan used the hiss to push out Polaris in Control so maybe Alan is using the story to free himself from the influence of Doors Night Springs. The last DLC seems to allow Alan to always meet the Time Breaker and maybe a way to surf back to his original reality, or maybe something close to it. Or maybe Time Breaker is showing how certain aspects of the world in AW 2 were influenced by Alan’s time stuck in Night Springs. Rose being more fanatical in AW 2, FBC existing because a version of Jesse was pulled into Alan’s world, and Tim Breaker being unable to remember his jumbled memories (maybe as a result of the text adventure game with tons of variations). Weird entry into the series nonetheless.
@@woogha Maybe. Time Breaker shows the actor jumping between worlds. Alan also was told by Door that he keeps peeking into other realities. I can see them being different Alan’s but also Alan’s consciousness taking over various Alan’s from different realities to some extent in a similar way to Scratch. AW2 hinted that Alan is a parautilitarian but there hasn’t been much confirmation on what those powers are or how they work.
In Jesse’s story, the percolate effect trying to take over and does take over the Sheriff is the same as the Hiss. Its clear its a stand in for the Hiss.
During the comic phase in Time Breaker, the agent says “Will you come back for me? Maybe..?…”. This is an evident reference to Quantum Break ending when Jack Joyce goes to Beth and whispers “I’ll come back for you!”
As a comment I really liked said: fanfiction does not have rules as severe and clear as horror does. Bad Fanfiction, then, is a genre in itself that requires even less precision. I am not surprised that Alan, maybe inspired by Rose's Zombie Apocalypse fanfiction, might have tried to give a shot at such a different genre and type of novel.
When I thought of this channel I wrote down a bunch of video ideas and one of them was “Playing Alan Wake 2 the way Sam Lake Intended” and involved playing all the games, watching all the shows, and reading all the novelizations before doing AW2 😂 maybe I’ll start on that and finish up after the next DLC hits.
Great vid, I absolutely love the Alan Wake series, (and Control equally!), Quantum Break is a great game, - however I would argue that while Door and Hatch are very similar , they not the same entity; Hatch is a shifter and as such his other/alternate selves still exist, whereas Door is a sole entity
Rose literally wrote twilight wtf. But on a cooler note. I love how No1 Fan eases you into the idea of alternate realities with all the insane shit. Also it’s cool to note that although there was a “happy ending” he was still in the writers room. He still looped. Same for the other two endings. He’s reaching for things he doesn’t understand so he can write something to get him out. He just doesn’t put it all together until the final draft.
Great summary of this DLC! As a fellow huge Alan Wake fan, this was really cool to listen to. In terms of my own ideas, am I the only one who thinks that North Star might be teasing some stuff in Control 2? Idk what yet, but I'm sure we'll find out soon.
At the end of the Alan Wake 2 new game plus, didn't Alan say he was the master of many worlds? I'm guessing that's why we saw him at the end of Time Breaker.
I feel like the first one was maybe originally gonna be an alex casey level, but they had to pivot after james passed:/ the other two are basically super short versions of their respective games lol so it feels like the first was maybe originally conceived as a max payne-eque level. Loved getting to play as rose though!!
I hope this gets read but I don’t think it’s the Multiverse the way you think it is. I think all the different branches or different universes are just different draft or points within the spiral and the actor or Tim brake has the power to travel between the loops because there’s a picture of a spiral that has a point in it, saying you are here. that would explain why everyone looks the same because they’re all the same person. They’re just filling in different roles.
Canon doesn't exist in Night Springs. But that's okay. I really have enjoyed these chapters. Its as if every game is a season of a show and every chapter is an episode. And whenever they around to the next game,either max payne 1+2 or control 2 they will do this again just watch.
Canon do exist. Night Springs itself was written by Alan Wake himself. American's Nightmare and all these three episodes of Night Springs pretty much contributed to the plot, expanding the lore and moved the characters forward.
@@zeroskaterz92 the only game i haven't played is quantum break so being able to at a "version" of it is nice to see. also the music in that chapter is tight.
I don't think Remedy will have any ownership issues in the future. Remedy already works with RockStar together to remake Max Payne. And I bet my ass they are allowed to kinda connect/hint to their universe, And Quantum Break is kinda worthless to MS right now. It's just a matter of TIME until they get the rights back or make a cooperation to create Quantum Break 2. We don't know what Remedy is planning after Max Payne and Control 2.
Are AW1 and AW2 really in the same world？There are two versions of the story about how Odin lost his eye and he seems to be able to see different worlds.
i think it not previous drafts of the story, Night Springs is in fact mirror of the story itself. I think Alan probably wrote it for in case he forgot, think first ep is some sort of reward for rose, for her hard work so he make her fanfic come true in night spring so she can be with her idol forever with out impact the real world. ep 2 is like control story in Alan perspective, in the dark place Alan can see an echo of real world but mix with fictional. ep 3 can be see in many perspective, it can be purely fact? or it a hint for us player how to see the story or what happen before Alan wake 2. overall this is way i think about this dlc. sorry for yapping :3
Enjoyed the 1st half of the dlc while playing Rose in Alan Wake 2. Felt like more happened here then majority of the story in Alan Wake 2. 2nd part where you play Jesse from Control is a good reminder why i just disliked this game & only played through the story once. The movement is slow & clunky like your walking your dog through a park. Then camera is just brutal, especially when the shadow enemies get close to you, then the camera aims towards your characters ass where you cant see what's happening. Alan Wake & American Nightmare combat was near perfect. The big change in this game was unnecessary. Having worse controls in a game doesn't add to the horror. Just makes the game feel clunky as shit
I just realized all episodes end with the main caracter meeting Alan
Cause he looped! In AW2 when he writes himself into a corner he ends up back in the writers room in the story. It loops. That’s what’s happening.
@@Sm0k3turt well technically it's spiraling :p
They all lead to Alan as these are failed attempts at escaping the Dark Place, - he had to bring the others to him so they could help him
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so only saga succeeded? and how about zane? did he write alan into his story or did alan write zane?
@@a.mo7a We shall have to see where the story goes, I'm just saying it's officially stated that the Night Springs DLC are failed attempts at Alan's escape, - before the events of Alan Wake 2
Time Breaker was on another level, so glad Quantum Break is still hanging on in the Remedy verse
Yeah when Zane and Wake popped up while they were talking about alternate reality versions of characters I was FLOORED.
@@NotFrickingNickAND IT MAKES SENSE CAUSE ALAN AND ZANE ARENT EXACTLY THE SAME BUT LIKE ALTERNATE VERSIONS! I don’t think they created each other they just found each other through the dark place. Two alternate selves. The writer and the filmmaker.
@@NotFrickingNick Ever since I saw Ahti consistently call Alan "Tom", I figured Alan Wake is just Tom Zane's alter-ego, maybe a reinvented self trying to recover some control after his catastrophic encounter with the Dark Presence. The "Alan is Tom" theory definitely gets a boost from that image too!
RIP Lance Riddick. My heart hurts so bad knowing we coulda potentially gotten him singing and dancing in Herald of Darkness. 😭😭😭
Lance was phenomenal. Loved everything he did to fringe John wick horizon zero dawn quantum break and even the funny or die skit he did way back. Most definitely would have been there for wake 2 and the musical. Sucks he had leave us so soon
Loved what David harewood offered though. He’s a bit of a tasteful replacement id say but is unique in his own way that gives exactly an ominous presence the role needed him to be. Remedy team did a damn fine job. AW 2 is one of my fave games ever thanks to its very interesting story telling
Quantum Break needs a re-release on all platforms immediately
Just played the game through to the end on pc and it still both looks and works surprisingly well. Hope the other platforms gets the same treatment :D
It's owned by Microsoft I think. Might be tough to get rights to it. But a full version of time breaker would suffice.
They don’t own it 😭😭😭
I have a feeling they’ll do another time travel story tho with Shawn
@@Sm0k3turt they can hopefully buy the rights tho… hopefully
Recently I started to play it on my xbox and it is a little laggy but works so well. This game is interesting for me c: I am trying to play through everything until the end and I hope I would love it
#1 fan is the funniest damn thing this series ever made
[The third story's idea of multiversal video games kinda reminds me of dbd, and how the licensed characters used in that game are canonically video game/movie characters in other universes]
I got a weird thought that Rose’s story is how Alan was trapped by Door. Door’s dialogue that states a happy ending ending for some (Rose) hints this was a bad end for Alan as he is trapped by Rose’s fanaticism.
North Star shows him as the imprisoned sibling perhaps because he was imprisoned in the first episode. Dylan used the hiss to push out Polaris in Control so maybe Alan is using the story to free himself from the influence of Doors Night Springs.
The last DLC seems to allow Alan to always meet the Time Breaker and maybe a way to surf back to his original reality, or maybe something close to it. Or maybe Time Breaker is showing how certain aspects of the world in AW 2 were influenced by Alan’s time stuck in Night Springs. Rose being more fanatical in AW 2, FBC existing because a version of Jesse was pulled into Alan’s world, and Tim Breaker being unable to remember his jumbled memories (maybe as a result of the text adventure game with tons of variations).
Weird entry into the series nonetheless.
I like these ideas! Man seeing all these comments makes me want to go back and replay it all a third time 😂
Alan is becoming a Shifter. Like Joyce, Serene,Door and Hatch . Each Alan is a different Alan as they merge in the dark place.
@@woogha Maybe. Time Breaker shows the actor jumping between worlds. Alan also was told by Door that he keeps peeking into other realities. I can see them being different Alan’s but also Alan’s consciousness taking over various Alan’s from different realities to some extent in a similar way to Scratch.
AW2 hinted that Alan is a parautilitarian but there hasn’t been much confirmation on what those powers are or how they work.
@@fakename4683 during the "We Sing" chapter "Shifter" is written in tape on the floor as well.
I love how you put 665 into the keypad at the start of Jesse's episode I did the exact same thing when playing it.
Me too! Hahaha. They have us trained.
I did it there and the roaster
Same 665 & 667
As a Quantum Break fan I was injected with copious amounts of hopium. Wouldn't have it any other way. Amazing DLC all around.
He'll come back for her
The world tree can also grow into a building. A weird monarch/oldest house in the desert.
Awesome, thanks! I did one of the Yggdrasil endings and one of the Lisa endings so the others I had to get from other people’s experiences
We need a full release of time breaker. That was by far the best of the 3.
I’d love to see a Tim breaker game similar to it.
In Jesse’s story, the percolate effect trying to take over and does take over the Sheriff is the same as the Hiss. Its clear its a stand in for the Hiss.
W Kendrick reference
5:22 "the fury of a thousand swifties" got me dead
During the comic phase in Time Breaker, the agent says “Will you come back for me? Maybe..?…”. This is an evident reference to Quantum Break ending when Jack Joyce goes to Beth and whispers “I’ll come back for you!”
10:42 LMAO that one caught me off guard. 😂 Fantastic video and breakdown! I finished the expansion today and had so much fun playing it.
I fell in love with Alan wake 2 more than the first Alan wake game
As a comment I really liked said: fanfiction does not have rules as severe and clear as horror does.
Bad Fanfiction, then, is a genre in itself that requires even less precision.
I am not surprised that Alan, maybe inspired by Rose's Zombie Apocalypse fanfiction, might have tried to give a shot at such a different genre and type of novel.
2:44 Jesus I had to go back like 5 times cus I thought UA-cam Music app was overlapping with UA-cam regular app lol
This is the first video I've seen on ypur channel, your humour is so funny so I immediatly subscribed
we need full timeline explained, because this video is amazing
When I thought of this channel I wrote down a bunch of video ideas and one of them was “Playing Alan Wake 2 the way Sam Lake Intended” and involved playing all the games, watching all the shows, and reading all the novelizations before doing AW2 😂 maybe I’ll start on that and finish up after the next DLC hits.
Great video, loved the editing and the quick explanation of the DLC when i dont got time to play it lol
Thanks! It’s basically Alan Wake’s American Nightmare with better pacing, so when you have 3 hours to kill it’s worth it!
I love how the evil coffee in North Star does the same screen wobbling effect as the Hiss
Grab a piping hot cup of Hisser's Choice.
Great vid, I absolutely love the Alan Wake series, (and Control equally!), Quantum Break is a great game, - however I would argue that while Door and Hatch are very similar , they not the same entity; Hatch is a shifter and as such his other/alternate selves still exist, whereas Door is a sole entity
Rose literally wrote twilight wtf. But on a cooler note. I love how No1 Fan eases you into the idea of alternate realities with all the insane shit. Also it’s cool to note that although there was a “happy ending” he was still in the writers room. He still looped. Same for the other two endings. He’s reaching for things he doesn’t understand so he can write something to get him out. He just doesn’t put it all together until the final draft.
Great summary of this DLC! As a fellow huge Alan Wake fan, this was really cool to listen to.
In terms of my own ideas, am I the only one who thinks that North Star might be teasing some stuff in Control 2? Idk what yet, but I'm sure we'll find out soon.
That would be cool! I’m very excited to see the next DLC and where Remedy goes next.
Clearly Coffee Thermos OoP is going on a rampage in the Oldest House in Control 2.
At the end of the Alan Wake 2 new game plus, didn't Alan say he was the master of many worlds? I'm guessing that's why we saw him at the end of Time Breaker.
I feel like the first one was maybe originally gonna be an alex casey level, but they had to pivot after james passed:/ the other two are basically super short versions of their respective games lol so it feels like the first was maybe originally conceived as a max payne-eque level. Loved getting to play as rose though!!
This video is awesome!! I love this :D
I hope this gets read but I don’t think it’s the Multiverse the way you think it is. I think all the different branches or different universes are just different draft or points within the spiral and the actor or Tim brake has the power to travel between the loops because there’s a picture of a spiral that has a point in it, saying you are here. that would explain why everyone looks the same because they’re all the same person. They’re just filling in different roles.
I really like this idea
Canon doesn't exist in Night Springs. But that's okay. I really have enjoyed these chapters. Its as if every game is a season of a show and every chapter is an episode. And whenever they around to the next game,either max payne 1+2 or control 2 they will do this again just watch.
Canon do exist. Night Springs itself was written by Alan Wake himself. American's Nightmare and all these three episodes of Night Springs pretty much contributed to the plot, expanding the lore and moved the characters forward.
@@zeroskaterz92 the only game i haven't played is quantum break so being able to at a "version" of it is nice to see. also the music in that chapter is tight.
The Alan Wake Lord seems very interesting, good video on the dlc 👍
Thanks! ☺️
I don't think Remedy will have any ownership issues in the future.
Remedy already works with RockStar together to remake Max Payne. And I bet my ass they are allowed to kinda connect/hint to their universe,
And Quantum Break is kinda worthless to MS right now. It's just a matter of TIME until they get the rights back or make a cooperation to create Quantum Break 2.
We don't know what Remedy is planning after Max Payne and Control 2.
i only played Alan Wake because i loved control and now i can't get enough of the remedy universe.... We must protect Sam Lake at all costs!!
One of my favourite games!
Every game eventually reaches the point of being NieR it's just inevitable
Are AW1 and AW2 really in the same world？There are two versions of the story about how Odin lost his eye and he seems to be able to see different worlds.
i think it not previous drafts of the story, Night Springs is in fact mirror of the story itself. I think Alan probably wrote it for in case he forgot, think first ep is some sort of reward for rose, for her hard work so he make her fanfic come true in night spring so she can be with her idol forever with out impact the real world. ep 2 is like control story in Alan perspective, in the dark place Alan can see an echo of real world but mix with fictional. ep 3 can be see in many perspective, it can be purely fact? or it a hint for us player how to see the story or what happen before Alan wake 2. overall this is way i think about this dlc. sorry for yapping :3
When talking about best developers remedy needs to be mentioned.
Compared to AW1's first dlc this didn't come close...
Last one probably failed because there's just too many endings.
Enjoyed the 1st half of the dlc while playing Rose in Alan Wake 2. Felt like more happened here then majority of the story in Alan Wake 2. 2nd part where you play Jesse from Control is a good reminder why i just disliked this game & only played through the story once. The movement is slow & clunky like your walking your dog through a park. Then camera is just brutal, especially when the shadow enemies get close to you, then the camera aims towards your characters ass where you cant see what's happening. Alan Wake & American Nightmare combat was near perfect. The big change in this game was unnecessary. Having worse controls in a game doesn't add to the horror. Just makes the game feel clunky as shit
bro is this a summary or an explanation like the title said? lol we already played it we dont need to be told step by step what happend
I haven't played it and am too chicken shit to. So this has been super helpful.
This guys subtle commentary against Swiftys lol annoyingly pitiful lol
It sold like crap and sweet baby ink has their fingers all over it
This guys subtle commentary against Swiftys lol annoyingly pitiful lol