Heavy haul gone wrong
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It was the new guys fault!!
Low Bid didn't include hauling in dirt to make the ramp level.
Motocross tracks are routinely built from scratch on NFL fields, and the Sunday game is played the next week.
Low Ball=High Consequences!!
410,000# mill stand, made in Korea, off-loaded from ocean going ship at New Orleans, loaded on barge, traveled Gulf of Mexico to Mobile, Alabama then North on Alabama River, Tombigbee River and Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway to near Columbus, Mississippi. One of many parts to be installed at the new Aluminum Dynamics Mill, Columbus. Mill will be producing aluminum plate. Aluminum plate is commonly available in 1/4" to 16? thickness and varying lengths and widths...industrial, transportation, ship building, architectural application, etc. Boat ramp is Leroy's Landing and owned by Lowndes County, Mississippi.
Barges and heavy machinery are a dangerous combination. A couple of years ago we had a major accident here in the Netherlands in a town called Alphen aan den Rijn, with two large cranes on a barge that fell over in the middle of the city while performing a super heavy lifting operation of a bridge section. (there is spectacular video footage from it) Even engineers can make mistakes. And when things start moving with those type of heavy loads there is no stopping it. Some houses got severely damaged, but luckily nobody got fatally wounded.
Heavy haul company that brought something in off a barge here in tn a while ago. They actually hauled a bunch of rock and gravel and built the ramp up instead of using mats. Then they used d8 cats with winches to hold the barge. All comes down to budget and who has the cheapest bid ain't that right?
Cheapest costs you much more than the highest bidder
No... it comes down to no two jobs are the same.
That's karmic justice.
That’s one big “ah shit” right there! 1 “ah shit” cancels out 1000 at-a-boys, just for reference. Glad no one was hurt other than their pride!
Rolling Mill stands like this were machined in Salem, Ohio. They were assembled to be sure all dimensions were correct, square, etc. I started working there in 1969, The E W Bilss Company, Heavy Equipment Division of Gulf + Western. We have off shored our own demise.
Bet you vote trump...
@@I_Am_Your_Problem As many times as I can.
Absolutely @@I_Am_Your_Problem
The big blue thing is a Toroidal Induction Coil. It is used to melt metal in a forge.
I always thought toroid meant circular, or doughnut shaped.
Ouch, that has to be expensive. 😶
I’ve seen many times where they actually sink the barge at the pier so that it doesn’t float up or move when the heavy load is moved off.
Those wagons are called SPMT's (self-propelled modular transporter) or sometimes refered to as a "Goldhofer" as they are the most prolific SPMT manufacturer out there. In the industry we refer to each axle as a 'line' and most are manufactured in 4 or 6 lines per frame that can be connected in series indefinitely. I've worked with 12 and 18 line machines, and have seen pics and videos of units up to 30 lines. These units can move whole ships if configured to do so and under the right ground and load securement conditions.
In my expert opinion, 60 years of moving heavy things with my keyboard... you can absolutely believe someone is getting a bag of coal and a rake for Christmas 😂😂😂😂😂
Facts lol
Fired
Mr. Gorge isn’t going to be very happy about this. Lol.😝
$20 is too much money!
George
Shoot that looks like a cake walk compared to when that big pipe thing fell off the wagon for the Kemper county coal plant. Took them a long time to get a game plan to get it out of the ditch
Should have called Mammoet.
They probably did after this
They will have to bring the crane in as it is now an insurance claim. So ya Mammoet is on there way
Alright, here is what I think transpired. The weight of that object is substantial, someone is saying 100 tons down in the comments here, plus the weight of the trailer to move it as well, this causes a certain amount of set to the barge in the water. A proper company knows to ballast the barge to counteract the weight shifting as this object rolls off the barge. When the trailer and item hit a certain point on the ramps, the weight shifted off of the barge and the barge lifted and floated back against the force pushing down on the ramps. Neither of the excavators is set in such a manner for the barge to come up as it creates slack in the lines, there should have been operators in the cabs of those machines at the time but who knows. that weight shift happened so quickly they did not react quick enough with moving the ballast or tightening the lines and the wild ride started.
I bet when they started those ramps were close to level, i would not imagine that those trailers have that much adjustment in height for going over the hump that the ramps are currently making, that is the height difference between loaded and unloaded though. Ballasting problem? I don't know, they could have changed things after the accident happened, but I imagine it is something like that. Like you said, the boat moves when you step off of it.
Very good hypothesis. Barge work is a different animal for sure..
I was thinking the same thing. I’ve loaded and unloaded enough barges and “Higgins boats” to know you can’t have enough power, ballast and lines tied off.
This is pure incompetence, probably low bid on the transport. They should have used mammoet or even barnhart to haul.
Goldhoffer modular heavy haul decks, unitized units that are controlled and powered by the unwheeled unit on the front, Some of the axles may be powered or nit all are jacking units with each axle being fully steerable and independently jacked and steered right, left, crab or circle mode 2 complete 4 tire units per row of axles can be configured end to end and or side by side. To see some good videos of them in action look up MAOMETT heavy haul and rigging
Now, imagine the ancient Egyptians moving all those big granite stones with ropes and wooden carts, in the sand.
That is a rolling mill stand. Probably weighs close to 100 tons
Not even close...
so we need a first gen cummins and a chain? :)
Great footage. Some cool stuff glad no one was hurt.
This looks like the result of going with the cheapest quote.
No way a 200 ton load should be driven down such a steep angle off a poorly secured barge and then up a steep boat ramp. I've seen these used at mine sites and they are only used on flat ground and if the ground wasn't flat, they made it flat.
I would imagine once this load went beyond the balance point at the top of the ramp and teetered down, it ran away out of control suddenly stopping as it hit the transition at the bottom of the ramp.
200t and not a chain in sight
And how are ypu going to chain something like that down. It's gonna take 100's of chains.
@@grumpyscout4745 If that is how many chains are needed then make it so. Video shows the results of not doing the right thing.
@chrisallen2005 actually that's not true. It could have been secured to 100%, tye value of the weight, and still ended up that way. But on top of it being on the ground, you would have also tore up a multi million dollar trailer. Besides that trailer doesn't have that many tie down spots.
@@grumpyscout4745it’s got chain points attached to the frame between each wheel set. These trailers are made with heavy haul in mind
@Slim-bg7rc yes I know this. It's a Goldhofer trailer. But there still isn't enough chain down areas to secure it completely.
Thats awesome that no one got injured, thats the important thing.
Scary, a load that big gets loose, and there's not much you are gonna do about it.
This often happens when someone is “saving money”. Will be following the outcome here. Thanks for the video. Take care. P.S. Was looking for info on the field use of forestry mulchers, excavator mounted and tracked. P.S.2 Found some of your mulcher posts. Will be looking back for more. Thanks.
Great stuff Tim, makes for great footage, but yes, as You said, nobody really wants that kind of hassle👌👍🙏
Heard about this the other day. Right down the road from the house and havnt even gone to check out the damage
Kind of erie no one else is around, kinda like everyone quit!
Looks to me like the trailer slid down that steep ass ramp. Sketchy set up.
*crash* - that's lunch boys. Hopefully nobody got in the way of flying debris.
You said something about how the excavator on the right of the screen should have been more to the left or closer in line with the barge. At 10:44, the ground angles down too much for that to have happened. The workaround would have been to have the excavator closer to the parking area and a longer line to the barge.
They are called goldhofers. Heavy modular remote control units. That looks like a 6 line and 4 line connected together with the power unit.
Mammoet, and a few other heavy haul and rigging companies uses this stuff. I haul those off and on for a few companies that uses them
That's a Self Propelled Module Transporter (SPMT). The one in the background with the drawbar looks to be a modular dual lane transporter.
Oops . . .
The vehicle is called a modular transporter.
I'd be guessing but I'd say the items are induction heating coils in which case they are very, very heavy for their size.
That ramp is way too steep, that barge needed to be ballasted down at least 4 feet or so, the angle of attack is just insane, you can't do stuff like that with loads that heavy. It was that or build the ramp up at least that far with dirt before the mats went down. I have friends who own heavy haulage companies and as a result, I know a bit about the doo's and don'ts and that is by a serious don't at that angle.
Front of that barge needed at least 4 points of tie off to keep it from shifting side to side
I think there in a meeting pointing fingers at each other to blame it on 👍🏻🇺🇲
My take on what happened is that they came off the barge and ramp just fine but when they started going uphill the cribbing between trailer and load folded backwards and made the load move off the side and back down the hill some.
Too narrow cribbing or not enough chains stabilizing the load.
Do you know if the barge has pumps to take on water or pump it out for ballast
Wow, what a major snafu. I feel for the entire outfit, this will be hard to bounce back from.
By what I see the strap on the Port side of the barge seems to be at the starboard/bow corner of the barge. I wonder if the load coming down the ramp caused to much tension on the strap and maybe how they had it hooked to the excavater cause the strap to be cut and quickly releasing the tension on the excavater on the right side of the picture. If this happened, then the barge shifted to starboard causing the load to fall.
The excavator on the left has a strap, where the other one has a chain. There looks to be a bunched up strap on the deck of the barge. Maybe the right hand side strap broke?
I sucks when youre whole day becomes a training video
Houston we have a problem.
It's quite suspicious that it seems there's nobody around, everyone just run away from the scene, not a single soul left. Wonder what is inside of those blue packs. Is it radioactive or what.
Yeah very suspicious🙄 BTW its soul. A sole is either the bottom of a shoe or a fish... unless you meant sole as in singular in which case you literally wrote " not a single single left"
@@kennethney4260 It's easy to edit, tnx.
The excavator on the right looks like it was drug forward if you look at the grass behind it!
No, they were evidently using the excavators as bollards. As you say, the weight transfer shifted the entire barge, breaking the strops to the nearest anchor. A more correct mooring would have also run from the rear of the barge to shore, reducing the leverage.
Seems like they would have shored up that end of barge and had more equipment holding barge tight against ramp? But IDK maybe would have crushed barge where it was shored up?
That ramp looks too steep for that heavy hauler to negotiate.
Not a call I would have wanted to make.
Two questions
1) is the object fatally twisted or broken.
2) is there a reason I don’t see big piles of chains laying around that were used to secure the cargo
to the trailer. Not a chain or strap in sight.
That ramp isn’t made for that. NASA does this kind of thing but the barge is level with the ground it’s off loading to.
Where and when was this?
These dunderheads are destroying that entire park area. From the ramp itself to the nice grassy area on both sides of the ramp. That big brown square patch of dead grass is where the wood cribbing was resting. Now they are driving excavators all over the grass tearing it all up.
This is obviously a small boat ramp intended for very small watercraft and bass boats not for machinery of this size. I just found the follow up video to this one where it looks like they assembled a gantry type crane and they had to tear up half the ramp to do it. I'd be willing to bet dollars to donuts when they are done and they leave, they don't bother repairing any of the damage or restoring it to the way it was.
Why can’t we see straps or chains anywhere ?
I didn't see any pilings there to secure that barge. Looks like a bad plan.
Why wasn't a mooring built into the ground on both sides to attach chains to hold the barge to the shoreline??
goldhofer's aren't designed to traverse steps like they made with the mats. They're designed to be operated only on flat decks. wouldnt take much to shift a load that heavy
I have a lot more information now since the video has posted and one thing I'll share- that piece alone weighs in at over 420,000 pounds.
@@cotontop3 watching now
@@cotontop3probably went to move it at 4:20
Looks like a whole bunch of hold my beer when they should have just gotten even multiple cranes to lift the load off of the barg and put it on trailers?
My keyboard expert opinion might be that there was still too much of an incline and when it started down the barge probably moved like you said and then the load shifted and slid off the trailer.
that puppydog is heavy
Perhaps they should have chained the transporter to the corners of the barge.
Wow!
Ride your big spectacle over somewhere.
Somebody obviously didn't appreciate the forces involved in getting that much weight off a barge via a ramp. Seems like they were only relying on the tug pushing the barge rather than actually securing it to the shore properly? Guess every day is a school day. Can't believe they didn't have a better moving plan in place though, you woulda thunk they guys doing the move would have a little experience?
Dang....!!!
Looks like it was not strapped to the trailer properly. Or maybe the trailer flexed and they came loose enough to let it slip some.
Trying to save money= incompetent.
I wonder if something happened to the right side anchor line. I did not see it in the drone video.
Somebody done goofed.
Did you notice the steep drop beside the excavator probably best they could do
Y’all should have called Berard Transportation, the best in the game
Is this the Ohio River? If so where
They hired the wrong company. Having worked with companies that move very heavy items one thing I saw was overkill in preperation. This didn't happen here.
Non-working Tennessee.
I'm no expert at all but seems it would have been better to pull up to the bank rather than that steep ramp.
Interesting. SHIT HAPPENS
Omg! Please everyone learn how to speak english correctly!
The word Excavator is not spelled with an S!
Says the loser that opens with OMG... You get those panties unbunched yet?
OMG ! The word "English" should always be capitalized. It is a proper noun, and therefore requires a capital letter.
So, how do you like being criticized for YOUR errors ? If you haven`t figured it out yet, nobody is perfect. Cut the guy a little slack.