Despite being literally the first person you see in the Fate franchise I feel like their is so much misinformation about Artoria from her kingship to her relationships so this along with the beautiful art is nice to see very good video
Thanks a lot! Part 2 will explore the nuances behind her character a lot more and will also have more info on her abilities and stats. So I hope you enjoy that when it’s out!
I just recently watched Fate Stay Night and fell in love with the 2006 lore. And this video was fantastic, and I am rewatching it again from full on. The narration, the way the story is shown was so beautiful. If there is a part 2 I can't wait to find out. Subscribe
Thank for the sub! And I’m glad you enjoyed the video, it took a lot of work. I promise part 2 will be 10x better than this one, but it’ll take a lot of time. The earliest it’ll be out is June, but I’ll make sure it’s worth the wait. Thanks again!
GREAT video I can now show people this to help them understand Artoria as a character more because we sadly never got a Fate route or garden of Avalon adaptation
You probably no this but Arthur Pendragon was named after Aether the god light That's why fate Arhur has blond hair (sun) and blue armor (sky) olso shood beens of light ether they new it or it fate That's why her alter her opisit has silver hair (moon) and black armor (night sky)
I have a newfound appreciation for this video! I'm writing a paper about Artoria for my english class and this video is a huge help in understanding the kind of king Artoria was. Still can't wait for part 2!
I’d like to create more videos like this and my “Epic of Gilgamesh” for as many Fate characters as possible. I’m still a new creator and I have a long way to go, so I’d like to wait on certain characters until my skills improve so I can do them justice. I can’t say when exactly, but I plan to cover pretty much… well… everyone.
This was such a good video, I didn't know Circe had something or rather anything to do with Artoria, so that came as a surprise, Artoria and Morgan's in fate is also questionable to say the least, thanks to the Lostbelt because in act 2 of when a Planet is born I think I read that they are actual blood related siblings though I believe it to be true for the Lostbelt versions of the characters still it makes ones head go to places.
I was actually going to add the information in the video at the relevant parts. I’ll definitely do that in part two. But for now, you’re right, I’ll add the sources in the description. Thanks!
I know this is insane question but are you considering doing the other versions of artoria too? If not I understand, just Castoria by herself might be as long as regular Artoria, considering that Nasu wrote such a fire character that he did her again with a new origin and characteristics but still be as great the orinigal. It would be cool to see the comparisons and differences of both them. Great vid and can’t wait for next part of the series.
I’m going to try my best to cover as many characters and variants as possible. I’m not sure when I’d get around to Castoria, but I’ll try my best to do each character the justice they deserve.
Interesting, as a new yter you dont really see in depth nasuverse lore videos about TM in this fashion outside of specific TM UA-camrs. Besides them you usually just get a lot of misinformation by people who have only seen zero and maybe 2006, ubw 2014 and hf trilogy. And especially since you went back and read garden of avalon(and hopefully the FSN and HA visual novels). These videos that your making are really important. So you get a sub from me
Great video. I've just Discovery yout Channel and it's great. A question the scene of artoria surronded vy people and the dissapearing like in minute 34:36 from what fate anime is? It's really bugging me becauae i remember seeing It but im not sure if it's apocrypha, UBW or another
Oh wow, that’s a massive compliment, thank you so much! I’m trying my best to become a better youtuber with each video, I’m sure you’ll be even better, just make sure to work hard!
Hello! Great video I really enjoyed watching the videos you put your time and effort in. You're doing an amazing job keep it up! I have one question about Artoria's character, and I would like to know your opinion on the matter and/or if you're going to talk about it in the future videos. As we know Artoria's character has been depicted wrong in Fate Zero, for example like how After making a contract with the world, she from the beginning wanted to be replaced as a king but fate zero changes that to her wanting to redo her reign even tho that doesnt make sense. Or how she was seen happy in zero even though she never was happy, moments where her honour that took priority over winning a battle she needed to win when she hasnt done that in her life, ofcourse there was honour but what came first is her people and her goal. Or even the whole banquet scene with gil and iskander . In Fate Strage Fake the banquet scene is adressed and corrected I think. But I was wondering if you will tackle this issue in your future videos as well to not cause any confusion. Because Artoria's character is really good as you explained in this video but a lot of fans have a bad view on her because of fate zero when shes completely different in the source material..
Thanks! And that’s a great point, which I believe someone else has also brought up. Part 2 of this video will involve Fate Zero along with all three FSN routes. I’m honestly not sure how to address the error in the way her character was depicted in Fate Zero. I don’t think I’ll address it from a “correction” point of view, but I’ll try my best to incorporate more of the elements from Zero that they actually got right about her character. It’s honestly a bit of a shame since I love Zero the most. If you’ve got any ideas on how I can go about it, then I’d love to hear! Thanks for commenting!
@@mocha13 hi! I’m not sure how to exactly go about it to be honest. I just know like from my own experiences and what ive noticed and heard that in zero she is being depicted not as determined or just much a much gentler version of herself you know. Like if we talk about the scene with iskander gil and artoria, when iskander and gil attacked her ideals when having no idea about what she has gone through or how she lived, she just stood there taking everything and letting herself get attacked when in all honesty her way of kingship is as admirable or maybe even more than theirs. But she didnt try to defend herself which is wrong because she lived her life with a strong exterior she didnt show weakness when others judged her and also when you look at for example the fate route of FSN, when shirou questioned her ideals, not even attacked it but questioned it, she got really upset and was defending her points and fighting back against the words he was saying to her. Realistically seen, considering how she lived her life she wouldnt care about what iskander and gil are saying and shed keep the cold exterior and focus on her goal. You could also look at how she handled criticism in the fate route and dive into what Richard said about the banquet scene in fate strange fake Another small example was when she fought lancer from fate zero and let her honour have priority over her ideals (she didnt want to heal her wounds that he gave her) which again doesnt make sense, her whole reason for being in the grail war is because she desperately wants to win for her kingdom. If u look at FSN, in the fate and HF route when she was first summoned she doesnt hesitate and instantly fights without trying to talk first or get to know them for honours sake, she instantly attacks lancer and injures archer (not in ubw ofc since shirou stops her). Another point is when she gets upset at the way kiritsugu goes about winning the war, artoria out of all people should know and relate to kiritsugu because she knows from her own life that in wars some things just needs to be done and she is not there for fun but she is desperate to win for her own people. Her whole reason of winning the war in zero “redo her reign” is wrong, from the moment she was going to pull out caliburn, she from the beginning wished for someone better than her. And at the end of her life that was her wish, for someone better to replace her and be king of brittain. Obviously in FSN she came to learn through shirou that she should accept her fate and that it is infact fate for everything to happen like that. Being proud of her reign and not regret it. And she learned that the grail was corrupted which ultimately destroyed her chance of getting her wish granted, whenn in zero she doesnt know that and was forced to destroy the grail. But thats kindof it the rest is fine I assume. Off topic but i wanted to say this, its really crazy how similar artoria is to shirou if you think about it, sooo beautiful.
The story of Merlin using his magic to disguise Uther as Lady Igraine's husband doesn't really happen in Fate for the sole fact that they already were together and had a daughter together in the form of Morgana.
Uuuuuhhh why has Circe been mentioned not once, but twice in the video? She's not a part of Arthurian myth, was this just some sorta bizarre mix up with the script?
The sources are now in the description, though I admit I could have been a lot more precise with them. I'll make sure to cite all sources of information in part 2, which will be a lot more technical than this video was.
1:26 bit of a nitpick but magical energy* magic is a whole nother thing 7:00 this isnt fully correct avalon is only a part of the reverse side of the world specificaly located at the same place that britian would be located in 26:30 vortigern is not just an evil king Vortigern was born by Britain itself interfering with his conception, making him something more than human. He was the incarnation of the will that tried to reject the Age of Man. He had drank the blood of the white dragon, lost his humanity, and become the very will and avatar of Britain. he IS britian itself rejecting the age of man aka the dissipation of mystery and as he died with his defeat the age of Mystery in Britain would inevitably end, and arthuria own dragon essence was at odds with the Age of Man that was to come. As long as she existed, Britain had no future because her existence is against the age of man.
"fate zero and its sequel" fate/stay night and the prequel* FSN came first zero is also not the best of sources here while it adds to the backstory with lancelot arthuria herself is a completly different character in terms of personality in fate/zero which is 1 of the biggest complains of fate/zero the video is great tho
That’s a great point, I haven’t scripted the second part of this video yet but I’ll try to remember to include that. Also, while I agree Artoria is a very different character in Zero, I think the way it’s structured allows for a rather poetic analysis - or at least, I have an interesting idea that I’d like to try regarding it. Your comments across my Fate videos have been super interesting, informative, and helpful! Would love your help fact checking part 2 once it’s written ahahaha (which will admittedly be a loooooong time).
@@mocha13 you could do it but its better if you only include the part urobuchi got right the conversation of kings with the argument against iskandar and the backsktory and fight with lancelot and how in the end arthuria misunderstands the lesson instead of giving up on her wish to restart everything she doubles down on it as now she belives someone else should have become king and dont include stuff like her overly naive and chivalrous nature and her entire conflict with kiritsugu since this part of fate/zero only exists if arthuria isnt herself and the conflict in its entierty contredicts who arthuria was in life and who she is in FSN
Yeah, you’re right. My main focus (for the Fate Zero section of the video) was always going to be Artoria’s conversation with Iskandar and Gil. I’m hesitant about completely omitting her interactions with Kiritsugu because I do think some important themes are explored there, even if inaccurate. That being said, it’s not a character analysis video by any means nor is it a video delving into the writing of Fate Zero, so just like you said, it’s probably best to stay clear of it in order to stay faithful to Artoria’s character in FSN (which is what the bulk of the video will consist of anyway). My main stumbling block right now is how I want to present the video because that will greatly influence the type of script I end up with. I’m leaning towards a Vaatividya style (if you know him) and almost making it like a movie, but we’ll see what happens. Thanks for the advice!
@@mocha13 I dont think I heard of him but looking at a few of his videos his style seems intresting so I dont think its a bad idea to be inspired by his style in your script
I just hope part 2 can do both her character and the anime the justice it deserves. But for that very reason, it’ll be a long while before it’s out. Don’t suppose I can get you to fact check my script whenever it’s done hahaha
This video amongst many others has further strengthened my belief that a fate route anime remake is absolutely necessary.
I’d do anything for a ufotable Fate route.
Collect signs for something
Despite being literally the first person you see in the Fate franchise I feel like their is so much misinformation about Artoria from her kingship to her relationships so this along with the beautiful art is nice to see very good video
Thanks a lot! Part 2 will explore the nuances behind her character a lot more and will also have more info on her abilities and stats. So I hope you enjoy that when it’s out!
Cant wait@@mocha13
Ayo, this is severely underrated, the editing work is peak, hope this blows up with views soon and thanks for your hard work
Thanks for your time, glad you enjoyed it!
I just recently watched Fate Stay Night and fell in love with the 2006 lore. And this video was fantastic, and I am rewatching it again from full on. The narration, the way the story is shown was so beautiful. If there is a part 2 I can't wait to find out. Subscribe
Thank for the sub! And I’m glad you enjoyed the video, it took a lot of work. I promise part 2 will be 10x better than this one, but it’ll take a lot of time. The earliest it’ll be out is June, but I’ll make sure it’s worth the wait. Thanks again!
GREAT video
I can now show people this to help them understand Artoria as a character more because we sadly never got a Fate route or garden of Avalon adaptation
Thanks a lot! And if you’re interested in the Fate route, I know a guy that’s making a pretty detailed video on it (that guy might be me).
@@mocha13 oh seeing a recap would be cool
Reading it made Saber my de facto favorite heroine
Artoria is one of my favorite characters! Thanks for this it's a really good video!
Glad you enjoyed it, hope you enjoy part two even more. I’m going to make sure it’s 10x better than this one!
@@mocha13 huge W I'll be waiting!
You probably no this but Arthur Pendragon was named after Aether the god light
That's why fate Arhur has blond hair (sun) and blue armor (sky) olso shood beens of light ether they new it or it fate
That's why her alter her opisit has silver hair (moon) and black armor (night sky)
i just read it for this video and i have no regrets it was so good
First, king arthur mentioned 🔥🔥🥳🥳
I have a newfound appreciation for this video! I'm writing a paper about Artoria for my english class and this video is a huge help in understanding the kind of king Artoria was. Still can't wait for part 2!
This was the Best artoria fundamental that I ever seen I hope you will make a saber's end video too
HE IS BACK 🎉
Thank you for taking the time and effort to create this video
Also any thoughts about doing a video about one of the Emiyas
I’d like to create more videos like this and my “Epic of Gilgamesh” for as many Fate characters as possible. I’m still a new creator and I have a long way to go, so I’d like to wait on certain characters until my skills improve so I can do them justice. I can’t say when exactly, but I plan to cover pretty much… well… everyone.
@mocha13 looking forward to those.
what an incredible video continue your awesome work !
Thank you!
Excellent and amazing video. Thanks friend
Thank you!
Ahh yes another lore video on the most high?
Why yes please and thank you.
Great video the quality was amazing suprised when i saw your subscriber count you deserve way more
Thanks a lot! I’ll try my best to keep improving!
Nice video ❤ looking forward part 2 🎉
Thanks! I’ll see you when part 2 drops :)
I never really finished the second iteration of Fate series, but this story really took my interest. Waiting for part 2
idk when part 2 is coming out. But I will wait. Just like artoria.
Artoria Pendragon is the best waifu ever ❤
This was such a good video, I didn't know Circe had something or rather anything to do with Artoria, so that came as a surprise, Artoria and Morgan's in fate is also questionable to say the least, thanks to the Lostbelt because in act 2 of when a Planet is born I think I read that they are actual blood related siblings though I believe it to be true for the Lostbelt versions of the characters still it makes ones head go to places.
This video is amazing, more pleass
Hopefully you enjoy part 2!!
More fate lore, pog i need more i want to cunsume it alll!
Nice video (^^)
would appreciate if the sources of the information were in the description
I was actually going to add the information in the video at the relevant parts. I’ll definitely do that in part two. But for now, you’re right, I’ll add the sources in the description. Thanks!
Peak video
Thanks!
Love your video's ❤🎉
Thanks a lot! Hope you enjoy part 2 even more!
@@mocha13 looking forward to it ❤️
I know this is insane question but are you considering doing the other versions of artoria too? If not I understand, just Castoria by herself might be as long as regular Artoria, considering that Nasu wrote such a fire character that he did her again with a new origin and characteristics but still be as great the orinigal. It would be cool to see the comparisons and differences of both them. Great vid and can’t wait for next part of the series.
I’m going to try my best to cover as many characters and variants as possible. I’m not sure when I’d get around to Castoria, but I’ll try my best to do each character the justice they deserve.
Interesting, as a new yter you dont really see in depth nasuverse lore videos about TM in this fashion outside of specific TM UA-camrs. Besides them you usually just get a lot of misinformation by people who have only seen zero and maybe 2006, ubw 2014 and hf trilogy.
And especially since you went back and read garden of avalon(and hopefully the FSN and HA visual novels). These videos that your making are really important.
So you get a sub from me
Thanks for the sub! I’ll try my best to keep making informative videos like this. Hope you enjoy part 2!
Great video. I've just Discovery yout Channel and it's great. A question the scene of artoria surronded vy people and the dissapearing like in minute 34:36 from what fate anime is? It's really bugging me becauae i remember seeing It but im not sure if it's apocrypha, UBW or another
I'm a simp for Arthurian legends.
Did they just cook again??? I'll definitely have to watch this later
Brooooo, you are such a neccesity as youtube chanel, I hope one day I can do this kind of content but in spanish (for spanish speakers naturally)
Oh wow, that’s a massive compliment, thank you so much! I’m trying my best to become a better youtuber with each video, I’m sure you’ll be even better, just make sure to work hard!
Artoria Pendragon the reason why I go to a sword dojo
Please part 2❤❤😢😢
vortigern drank albion's blood?!
I need part 2
Hello! Great video I really enjoyed watching the videos you put your time and effort in. You're doing an amazing job keep it up! I have one question about Artoria's character, and I would like to know your opinion on the matter and/or if you're going to talk about it in the future videos.
As we know Artoria's character has been depicted wrong in Fate Zero, for example like how After making a contract with the world, she from the beginning wanted to be replaced as a king but fate zero changes that to her wanting to redo her reign even tho that doesnt make sense. Or how she was seen happy in zero even though she never was happy, moments where her honour that took priority over winning a battle she needed to win when she hasnt done that in her life, ofcourse there was honour but what came first is her people and her goal. Or even the whole banquet scene with gil and iskander
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In Fate Strage Fake the banquet scene is adressed and corrected I think. But I was wondering if you will tackle this issue in your future videos as well to not cause any confusion. Because Artoria's character is really good as you explained in this video but a lot of fans have a bad view on her because of fate zero when shes completely different in the source material..
Thanks! And that’s a great point, which I believe someone else has also brought up.
Part 2 of this video will involve Fate Zero along with all three FSN routes. I’m honestly not sure how to address the error in the way her character was depicted in Fate Zero. I don’t think I’ll address it from a “correction” point of view, but I’ll try my best to incorporate more of the elements from Zero that they actually got right about her character. It’s honestly a bit of a shame since I love Zero the most.
If you’ve got any ideas on how I can go about it, then I’d love to hear! Thanks for commenting!
@@mocha13 hi!
I’m not sure how to exactly go about it to be honest. I just know like from my own experiences and what ive noticed and heard that in zero she is being depicted not as determined or just much a much gentler version of herself you know.
Like if we talk about the scene with iskander gil and artoria, when iskander and gil attacked her ideals when having no idea about what she has gone through or how she lived, she just stood there taking everything and letting herself get attacked when in all honesty her way of kingship is as admirable or maybe even more than theirs. But she didnt try to defend herself which is wrong because she lived her life with a strong exterior she didnt show weakness when others judged her and also when you look at for example the fate route of FSN, when shirou questioned her ideals, not even attacked it but questioned it, she got really upset and was defending her points and fighting back against the words he was saying to her. Realistically seen, considering how she lived her life she wouldnt care about what iskander and gil are saying and shed keep the cold exterior and focus on her goal. You could also look at how she handled criticism in the fate route and dive into what Richard said about the banquet scene in fate strange fake
Another small example was when she fought lancer from fate zero and let her honour have priority over her ideals (she didnt want to heal her wounds that he gave her) which again doesnt make sense, her whole reason for being in the grail war is because she desperately wants to win for her kingdom. If u look at FSN, in the fate and HF route when she was first summoned she doesnt hesitate and instantly fights without trying to talk first or get to know them for honours sake, she instantly attacks lancer and injures archer (not in ubw ofc since shirou stops her). Another point is when she gets upset at the way kiritsugu goes about winning the war, artoria out of all people should know and relate to kiritsugu because she knows from her own life that in wars some things just needs to be done and she is not there for fun but she is desperate to win for her own people.
Her whole reason of winning the war in zero “redo her reign” is wrong, from the moment she was going to pull out caliburn, she from the beginning wished for someone better than her. And at the end of her life that was her wish, for someone better to replace her and be king of brittain.
Obviously in FSN she came to learn through shirou that she should accept her fate and that it is infact fate for everything to happen like that. Being proud of her reign and not regret it. And she learned that the grail was corrupted which ultimately destroyed her chance of getting her wish granted, whenn in zero she doesnt know that and was forced to destroy the grail.
But thats kindof it the rest is fine I assume.
Off topic but i wanted to say this, its really crazy how similar artoria is to shirou if you think about it, sooo beautiful.
You’ve made some amazing points which I’ll be sure to include in the second part to this video. Thanks a lot!
@@mocha13happy to help :] I'm looking forward to part 2!
0:43 what is this music
Memoria from Fate Zero. It’s a guitar cover and the link to the channel is in the description. It’s soooooo good.
Bro forgot the mythological mystic code Marmyadose
😢
Too many uncanny ai generated images. .
She stole Arturia's sperm? I - I'm sorry, brain just crashed. I need reboot.
The story of Merlin using his magic to disguise Uther as Lady Igraine's husband doesn't really happen in Fate for the sole fact that they already were together and had a daughter together in the form of Morgana.
Uuuuuhhh why has Circe been mentioned not once, but twice in the video? She's not a part of Arthurian myth, was this just some sorta bizarre mix up with the script?
Where's the part 2?
Working on it! Admittedly, it’ll take me a while, I’m trying to make it levels better than this one. I promise it won’t disappoint!
Ufotable!! remake the fate route and my life is yours!
I wish man
ya ima going to second the need to place your sources.
The sources are now in the description, though I admit I could have been a lot more precise with them. I'll make sure to cite all sources of information in part 2, which will be a lot more technical than this video was.
1:26 bit of a nitpick but magical energy*
magic is a whole nother thing
7:00 this isnt fully correct
avalon is only a part of the reverse side of the world
specificaly located at the same place that britian would be located in
26:30 vortigern is not just an evil king
Vortigern was born by Britain itself interfering with his conception, making him something more than human. He was the incarnation of the will that tried to reject the Age of Man. He had drank the blood of the white dragon, lost his humanity, and become the very will and avatar of Britain.
he IS britian itself rejecting the age of man aka the dissipation of mystery
and as he died with his defeat the age of Mystery in Britain would inevitably end, and arthuria own dragon essence was at odds with the Age of Man that was to come. As long as she existed, Britain had no future because her existence is against the age of man.
Thanks for the corrections and the interesting info!
"fate zero and its sequel"
fate/stay night and the prequel*
FSN came first
zero is also not the best of sources here
while it adds to the backstory with lancelot
arthuria herself is a completly different character in terms of personality in fate/zero
which is 1 of the biggest complains of fate/zero
the video is great tho
That’s a great point, I haven’t scripted the second part of this video yet but I’ll try to remember to include that. Also, while I agree Artoria is a very different character in Zero, I think the way it’s structured allows for a rather poetic analysis - or at least, I have an interesting idea that I’d like to try regarding it.
Your comments across my Fate videos have been super interesting, informative, and helpful! Would love your help fact checking part 2 once it’s written ahahaha (which will admittedly be a loooooong time).
@@mocha13 you could do it
but its better if you only include the part urobuchi got right the conversation of kings with the argument against iskandar and the backsktory and fight with lancelot and how in the end arthuria misunderstands the lesson instead of giving up on her wish to restart everything she doubles down on it as now she belives someone else should have become king
and dont include stuff like her overly naive and chivalrous nature and her entire conflict with kiritsugu
since this part of fate/zero only exists if arthuria isnt herself
and the conflict in its entierty contredicts who arthuria was in life and who she is in FSN
Yeah, you’re right. My main focus (for the Fate Zero section of the video) was always going to be Artoria’s conversation with Iskandar and Gil. I’m hesitant about completely omitting her interactions with Kiritsugu because I do think some important themes are explored there, even if inaccurate.
That being said, it’s not a character analysis video by any means nor is it a video delving into the writing of Fate Zero, so just like you said, it’s probably best to stay clear of it in order to stay faithful to Artoria’s character in FSN (which is what the bulk of the video will consist of anyway).
My main stumbling block right now is how I want to present the video because that will greatly influence the type of script I end up with. I’m leaning towards a Vaatividya style (if you know him) and almost making it like a movie, but we’ll see what happens.
Thanks for the advice!
@@mocha13 I dont think I heard of him but looking at a few of his videos his style seems intresting so I dont think its a bad idea to be inspired by his style in your script
I just hope part 2 can do both her character and the anime the justice it deserves. But for that very reason, it’ll be a long while before it’s out. Don’t suppose I can get you to fact check my script whenever it’s done hahaha