@adampetten5349 blowing multiple starts while on pole and failing to win in the fastest car by far or getting passed by his more aggressive teammate and failing to win. He was on pole a bunch and choked. Compare to Max who delivers wins from pole or wins from in the pack regularly and overachieves. Lando is fast but a choke artist when it matters
@@jasongibson3574 Overaggressive Oscar and Max. He was well past the start on many of those occasions. Oscar shouldn't have been trying that ham fisted attempt at Monza on anyone with Constructors at stake. The gearbox also caused one lost Pole. Oscar and Lando both had wheelspin issues at another race. There were a few races where the absolute Fantastic drivers of the big Seven- Checo was not there- were better. Great athletes beat other great athlete.
@@adampetten5349 getting squeezed off the outside line is racing buddy. The inside line owns the corner in every series of motorsport. End of discussion.
Marko said no to Sainz not because of Carlos. It was because of the entourage of Carlos. They are very “present” and with quit a pose. Max has his dad present for a race or 6-7 a year, but Carlos’ pose is huge and they are there always and very “present”. Even during quali and the race
You've said this well. Every time I see his (I believe) his nephew on screen, filling the space with his aura and being everywhere on the place, I feel sorry for the mechanics and team management.
@@surgemeister182 it’s a choice and it has won and lost him opportunities. Carlos is great but was not a team player with Charles and Charles eventually was very vocal about it… do you want that for a second driver?
Lando and George over Charles is criminal this season is criminal. Peter’s point about comparing Charles to Carlos is actually funny considering Ferrari made the car much more towards Carlos’ liking in the past 2 seasons. He gives Lando more credit for beating Oscar who fell off sharply towards this season in the fastest car on the grid and only winning 4 races and George who was battling Lewis who checked out mentally before the season even started than he gives Charles who was going against Carlos who was driving all out this season
Lando's a good guy at heart, but he doesn't possess the grit to win championships consistently. Can he win one, sure, but he only does well when he's far in the lead and the race start goes well. Wheel to wheel he has a lot to learn mentally not to be bullied on track.
People seem to act like he wasn't in a midfield team for the vast majority of his career where he had many great wheel to wheel battles. The selective memory of the F1 fan is truly a marvel.
Mr Windsor, ever been tempted to contact Viaplay or Netflix to make a fantastic series about the history of F1? You know have so much to talk about and I would be the first to watch
I just get fed up with people throwing the term "bias" around because a pundit said something negative about their hero. PW was biassed against Max, eg for his belief that Lewis was robbed in AD 2021. That was until he said Max wasn't at fault against Lando in Austria. Then he was the only unbiassed "Brit". There's plenty PW says I don't agree with, but I'm happy he's giving his opinion in good faith unlike the majority of SM hyper fans and super haters.
@@sbGOM You're shouting at clouds. They clearly said that they enjoy Peter's insight. They are allowed to take issue with some of that insight whilst agreeing with other parts of it. And it's true in my opinion. His opinions on Norris are inconsistent with his opinions on other drivers under similar circumstances- that's what bias is. You are the person trying to deny people having an opinion. Get over it!
Peter misses the point of Hungary. McLaren undercut Oscar where the lead driver gets priority. If they don't, you'll have drivers compromising strategy by undercutting each other. Should McLaren have defended against a Lewis undercut? Arguably, that wasn't necessary. What Lando should've done is just give the place back immediately and overtaken Oscar on track OR just be an a-hole and not given it back (think multi-21). Lando found a third option that was worse.
Peter comes up with a narative and he is going to stick with it come hell or high water. They clearly were defending Norris against Hamilton as a precaution, so it was clearly right for him to give the position back. We have other idiots saying it was a mistake as they didn't realise he would jump Piastri - give me strength
Good as Carlos is, i dont think he works well next to Max simply because Carlos is not interested in being a number two, he commands high salary and the team is clear that they are built around Max as their lead driver. The one team leader approach would soon be strained by tensions. And regarding Yuki, I fear people over play this idea that he has this massive fan base. In fact dare I say the majority ppl speaking now, couldn't be bothered about him last couple of seasons. They are probably more driven by their full-time criticism of Redbull and it's leadership. They just wanted something to hate on.
As far as I understand things Red Bull hasn'y made an offer to Sainz due to Sainz not wanting the second seat. Sainz was only willing to become a Red Bull driver when Max was leaving.
Wrong way round. I think Norris owes McLaren an apology. The car was capable of winning the WDC and Norris bottled it. When you’re battling for a championship you need to be clear and strong and confident and decisive and someone the team can rally around. And Norris seemed incapable of motivating the team to believe in him and also relied too much on the team instead of taking matters into his own hands when it came to strategy etc. Lando has never seemed like a champion in waiting. He seems like an upper midfield driver who’s out of his depth at the front of the grid. As I believe there’s a saying that goes: “champions act like champions, before they become champions”. And Lando doesn’t seem like a champion or act like one.
@ By being a clear and effective team leader. That the team can trust and rally around and look to for motivation and guidance. Norris did none of that.
@ Nope. When teams are having a tough season they look to their lead driver for encouragement as they’re the standard-bearer of the team. As if the mechanics and engineers etc didn’t look to Lewis or Max or Schumacher etc when they’re having a tough season.
Real shame for PW to perpetuate the “Yuki is too emotional” line like it’s still 2021. Has Yuki ever flipped off another racer during a live session? Especially from an affiliated team? Yuki will always have more to prove his doubters
Peter really should talk about aero grip as well as mechanical grip. Higher min speed is more aero load + flatter car (less pitch) from more sympathetic breaking best for ground effect
Thierry Neuville is just too nice a guy to be noticed / recognised. A bit Lando-like... This year he had a bit less of a handicap called bad luck... About Max's teammates. I don't think Max is choosing the person in the other seat at Red-Bull, and the RB family needs to have the space to bring up their talents. Why would they pay Carlos AND probably lose their future prospects? As P.W. said himself: If you have a Lando, why bring an Oscar to nap his heels? If you have a Lewis, why bring on a George... I think Carlos might be just what Williams needs to get back to their winning ways, slowly but surely: A guy with experience that can read a race, is fast and isn't crash-prone. He drove liberated this year, and it showed. No team orders possible to the sacked guy... Perez: Seems the decisions were made months ago, but the money situation might have taken a bit of time. Lawson vs Tsunoda: It's a good thing if they keep a bit of stability @ Torro-Rosso (whatever they want to call it now, I'll keep the TR for clarity) Lawson can learn at both teams, but if they promote Yuki, they've got a TR team without an experienced driver. Now they'll have both teams with an experienced driver and a rooky. If Hadjar is good, they'll be able to compare him to Yuki. You cannot compare Hadjar to Lawson, because Lawson is an unknown himself. They need to know ASAP, because they've got others needing an opportunity, in the near future.
Yes Peter is right; McLaren were so desperate for the constructors championship win after sucking so hard for so many years that they lost the drivers championship for Lando
Windsor still crying about Lando Lol. Lando should apologise to McLaren for being a bottle merchant. Windsor thinks Ricciardo should still be at McLaren. Lol. Looking forward to his bleating when Piastri beats Norris next year.
I see your point. Norris bottled it to many times. So the team can't put all the card in his account. They have to play fair and let Piastri also grow. But i think next year Lando will still beat Piastri on the hole season... My opinion
@@hotdiggityd what flaws? McLaren had the perfect season, they won the championship, Norris would not have won even if they would invoke team orders more often (as Windsor himself calculated) and they have two great drivers within the ranks like no other team (we dont know what to expect from Lewis in Ferrari, and both RBR and Merc have rookies). Peter downplays significante of having two great drivers on the top team while praising Carlos in Ferrari at the same time. He's just mad at McL for not playing favourite for the Brit even though it would have been detrimental to the team. Piastri could easily move to any other Team (maybe apart from Ferrari) and he would if he had no shot for the championship at McL.
All the Brits are just bashing on McLaren because it’s being run by an American, and many Brits “fancy” themselves superior and unable to accept Brown is leading them to incredible success.
Cameron I've said it before but I love when you have Peter on. I love his channel and yours and together you are great. Any idea when you will have any merchandise for purchase. I would love to know Peters thought on the watkins glen circuit I live a hour away and theres always some noise about maybe formula one coming back. Have a Merry Christmas.
Peter did 10/7 you 'tecky' style😂 Picked up that Lando may actually learn to change his style; didn't think he would be able to, we'll see. Enjoyed and Great Christmas to all🎄🎄🎄👍
@@Cameron-Cc You calling me a leg end?😂😂 Although my duck leg ends were very much enjoyed😂😂😂 Sorry, few red wines in🍷🍷🍷Enjoy your hols with your family😿⭐⭐🎄🎄👍
@ 😂😂 I understand from a pure racer pov why he’s so great, it just makes me very excited for next year cause he’ll have arguably the highest competition he’s ever faced. I AM betting against him though and don’t care about my bias either!
yuki is too emotional but liam raced for 6 gp and beefed with 2 different drivers in that timeframe, crashed with one of them, impeded another, and threw up his middle finger to one of them in the middle of the race. but liam isn’t emotional at all and is very well regulated 😐
The idea that Lewis is just going to be chill and ok with Charles beating him I find fanciful. You don’t get 7 (or 8) world championships with that mentality.
To my surprise in this podcast ..when qualifing was the topic (Sainz versus Verstappen back in 2015).. there was no mentioning of Max not being so focussed on going for Pole Positions in the early years of his career. At least not as much as Charles and the others.. Max was quite fine qualifing 2'nd..3'rd or even lower. He was sure he could still win races without 'fine tuning' his qualifing untill..say... last 3 seasons.. Before..the main focus was on the long runs. They (RBR) were always more focussed on the Sundays..not so much on the Saturdays. Again..I'm a bit surprised that hasn't been picked up on. After his focus was also on fine tuning his qualifing sessions, that's when we say him taking them Pole Positions on a more regular basis too. At least more so than before. I might be wrong..but actually I'm pretty sure I'm not.. ..just saying.. 😉
Definitely wrong as max is obsessed with records like Vettel he could have been the youngest pole sitter also and Ricciardo beat him in quali he’s not that fast on one lap
@@Grand_inquisiteurYou're missing the point. Untill the 2021'season he only had 3 pole positions in his first 6 seasons at that time. The other 38 only came after that. And to state Max 'being obsessed over records'..you haven't been listening when Max was being asked about that. He often spoke about how he's not too busy thinking about that. But.. maybe you know something that he doesn't .... 😉✌️
For @peterwindsor. What is your background in Music Peter, you know a lot about music and the music on your channel is always interesting and quite sophisticated. (sorry for the off-topic)
Peter is a Legend and he hasn’t got an ounce of bias. I however do not agree with his choice for Lando & George. Charles was better. Carlos is heavily underrated. Ferrari had the best driver pairing.
@@michaeldellorso889 and Charles had engine failure DNF in Canada, Sandwiched at lap 1 in Austria, inters on dry at Silverstone. That's 3 races he couldn't score out of his control compared to Carlos single DNS.
@@michaeldellorso889 Again that's not on him. He was ahead of Carlos in Canada before his engine gave up. Horrible quali comes from experimental setups he did to fix the car's bouncing issues. All while Carlos comfortably went back to old upgrades. Tire choice wasn't on him in Silverstone, they told him it was gonna rain soon and pitted him. What could he have done?
I think lando is lucky that Mclaren dropped the ball a few times. Because that gives lando an excuse for losing the WDC. Because it would’ve been even more embarrasing when he got manhandled by max and he had no one to blame but himsef. Obviously I’m 100% sarcastic lando norr-if wasn’t even close to being at max’s level and he never will be. And he’s even luckier that charles didn’t have the car to take the sub and constructors away!😂
fault of drivers forcing him to avoid accidents. Oscar shouldn't have tried as risky a move as he did in Monza on Sir Lewis or Charles let alone a teammate. He's not going to be the finished article competing in the Upper Midfield for his career. 35 year old Hill made more mistakes in 1995...but Williams made even more. Brawn made Williams strategists look silly. McLaren strategists were also somewhat wanting.
I’m surprised Peter still harps on the “Yuki screams and shouts a lot” narrative. That’s something Yuki barely shows at all especially in 2023-24, he’s been super calm over the radio, a real team player and leader for Vcarb, everyone loves him in that team and his feedback is also nice. This 2021 narrative is just tiring to hear
Lando has never been championship material. In a competitive car it took him 6 seasons to win 1 race!! In his first 2 seasons he only had 1 podium!! Compare that to Max, when he got into a Red Bull, in his first season (came in for just 17 races), he had 1 win and 7 podiums. Some drivers have it, others don't!
Lando is a lot like the Honey Badger; he is a nice guy, but he doesn't seem to have the desire to win. It doesn't have to be at the level of the Red Baron (or Senna or Verstappen)
Old Pete picking nando and George is British bias, norris was owned by Oscar in quite a few races in HIS 2nd year , old Pete didn't mention team orders by Macca...
McLaren should apologise to Lando?!?! Lando should apologise to McLaren and the thousands who bult that rocketship of a car Lando DIDN'T win a championship in!
Come on Cam Peter is still delusional in regard to Hungary. OP beat LN in to T1 and drove off and what did the Pit wall do? Pit LN first TWICE when OP ad earned the right to be pit first and all at a track well known for its large UC. Then there's LN's petulant sooky attitude when the PW said to slow down when he was cooking the tyres to which he replied tell Oscar to hurry up. Oscar was cruising at the delta set on the wheel ..
So what did you do for the rest of the year. I find myself defending Norris against one eyed fan boys. Oscar is on an upward trajectory but he was thoroughly beaten by Norris this year because....he was faster. And I'm an Aussie like you and looking forward to Oscar being the next Aussie WDC. I am just so over juvenile comments.
@@sbGOMFor one get off your high horse. 2, I'm not a fan of OP but hope he does well and 2 WHO MENTIONED other races and where did I say LN didn't beat him over the year or wasn't quicker ? That was you FFS. People like you are so hilarious you make up shit from nowhere to create something out of nothing. Facts is I read talking about Hungary you dope and what I said is absolutely accurate go fkn watch it again. Op was screwed by having LN serviced first both times yet so if Peter's comments were as if LN had somehow deserved to be given the win.. Absolutely bullshit.. You should get a job in the media..
Lando should be thankful for such a great car and blame himself for not doing more with it. He choked on multiple occasions
No kidding. He seems to use the press pit as talk therapy. Full of self doubt and blame. Not the lion Max sees in the mirror.
Avoiding accidents is choking?
@adampetten5349 blowing multiple starts while on pole and failing to win in the fastest car by far or getting passed by his more aggressive teammate and failing to win. He was on pole a bunch and choked. Compare to Max who delivers wins from pole or wins from in the pack regularly and overachieves. Lando is fast but a choke artist when it matters
@@jasongibson3574 Overaggressive Oscar and Max. He was well past the start on many of those occasions. Oscar shouldn't have been trying that ham fisted attempt at Monza on anyone with Constructors at stake. The gearbox also caused one lost Pole. Oscar and Lando both had wheelspin issues at another race.
There were a few races where the absolute Fantastic drivers of the big Seven- Checo was not there- were better. Great athletes beat other great athlete.
@@adampetten5349 getting squeezed off the outside line is racing buddy. The inside line owns the corner in every series of motorsport. End of discussion.
Marko said no to Sainz not because of Carlos. It was because of the entourage of Carlos. They are very “present” and with quit a pose. Max has his dad present for a race or 6-7 a year, but Carlos’ pose is huge and they are there always and very “present”. Even during quali and the race
You've said this well. Every time I see his (I believe) his nephew on screen, filling the space with his aura and being everywhere on the place, I feel sorry for the mechanics and team management.
@@ariebroek2404 it’s pathetic
@@surgemeister182 it’s a choice and it has won and lost him opportunities. Carlos is great but was not a team player with Charles and Charles eventually was very vocal about it… do you want that for a second driver?
Quit a pose? HUH?😳
@@413TomaccoRoad Quite a Posse
Lando and George over Charles is criminal this season is criminal. Peter’s point about comparing Charles to Carlos is actually funny considering Ferrari made the car much more towards Carlos’ liking in the past 2 seasons. He gives Lando more credit for beating Oscar who fell off sharply towards this season in the fastest car on the grid and only winning 4 races and George who was battling Lewis who checked out mentally before the season even started than he gives Charles who was going against Carlos who was driving all out this season
Zak ordered Oscar to move over for Lando for the final 7 races.
Lando's a good guy at heart, but he doesn't possess the grit to win championships consistently. Can he win one, sure, but he only does well when he's far in the lead and the race start goes well. Wheel to wheel he has a lot to learn mentally not to be bullied on track.
People seem to act like he wasn't in a midfield team for the vast majority of his career where he had many great wheel to wheel battles. The selective memory of the F1 fan is truly a marvel.
He has the car now to do it. So he has to show us, or better yet, show himself. 👍🏾
Mr Windsor, ever been tempted to contact Viaplay or Netflix to make a fantastic series about the history of F1? You know have so much to talk about and I would be the first to watch
Windsor thinks 20 year olds should idioliize a guy who won his races before grandma was born?
Yep - Absolutely! And Fangio, who was watching races where Jim Clark was driving, said Clark was the best.
I enjoy Peter's insight except for his Norris biase it's completely irrational.
@tonytomassoni1973 so you don't agree with him then? The new term for disagreement, bias.
@sbGOM I think in today's climate we don't accept people's different point of views and label them wrongly.
I just get fed up with people throwing the term "bias" around because a pundit said something negative about their hero. PW was biassed against Max, eg for his belief that Lewis was robbed in AD 2021.
That was until he said Max wasn't at fault against Lando in Austria. Then he was the only unbiassed "Brit".
There's plenty PW says I don't agree with, but I'm happy he's giving his opinion in good faith unlike the majority of SM hyper fans and super haters.
@@sbGOM You're shouting at clouds. They clearly said that they enjoy Peter's insight. They are allowed to take issue with some of that insight whilst agreeing with other parts of it.
And it's true in my opinion. His opinions on Norris are inconsistent with his opinions on other drivers under similar circumstances- that's what bias is.
You are the person trying to deny people having an opinion. Get over it!
Peter misses the point of Hungary. McLaren undercut Oscar where the lead driver gets priority. If they don't, you'll have drivers compromising strategy by undercutting each other. Should McLaren have defended against a Lewis undercut? Arguably, that wasn't necessary. What Lando should've done is just give the place back immediately and overtaken Oscar on track OR just be an a-hole and not given it back (think multi-21). Lando found a third option that was worse.
Peter comes up with a narative and he is going to stick with it come hell or high water. They clearly were defending Norris against Hamilton as a precaution, so it was clearly right for him to give the position back. We have other idiots saying it was a mistake as they didn't realise he would jump Piastri - give me strength
Good as Carlos is, i dont think he works well next to Max simply because Carlos is not interested in being a number two, he commands high salary and the team is clear that they are built around Max as their lead driver. The one team leader approach would soon be strained by tensions.
And regarding Yuki, I fear people over play this idea that he has this massive fan base. In fact dare I say the majority ppl speaking now, couldn't be bothered about him last couple of seasons. They are probably more driven by their full-time criticism of Redbull and it's leadership. They just wanted something to hate on.
As far as I understand things Red Bull hasn'y made an offer to Sainz due to Sainz not wanting the second seat. Sainz was only willing to become a Red Bull driver when Max was leaving.
A bit bizarre to say Charles had worse season than George and Lando because he had "off days" Lando and George had way more off days than Charles did.
Nando lost the championship ,it wasn't the team's fault , Windsor is cooked
Thanks for the shoutouts about WRC. I haven’t really followed it since Petter Solberg, but I rate it highly.
Can u type the name of the driver he was talking about ? I didn’t quite catch the name
Wrong way round. I think Norris owes McLaren an apology. The car was capable of winning the WDC and Norris bottled it.
When you’re battling for a championship you need to be clear and strong and confident and decisive and someone the team can rally around.
And Norris seemed incapable of motivating the team to believe in him and also relied too much on the team instead of taking matters into his own hands when it came to strategy etc.
Lando has never seemed like a champion in waiting. He seems like an upper midfield driver who’s out of his depth at the front of the grid.
As I believe there’s a saying that goes: “champions act like champions, before they become champions”. And Lando doesn’t seem like a champion or act like one.
Did Kimi act like Max? Did Piquet act like Lewis? Did Schumi act like Damon? How does a champion act?
@ By being a clear and effective team leader. That the team can trust and rally around and look to for motivation and guidance. Norris did none of that.
@@gameofender4463 you're confusing a driver with a team principal.
@ Nope. When teams are having a tough season they look to their lead driver for encouragement as they’re the standard-bearer of the team.
As if the mechanics and engineers etc didn’t look to Lewis or Max or Schumacher etc when they’re having a tough season.
If Lando bottled it, then Oscar should be out of F1…
Real shame for PW to perpetuate the “Yuki is too emotional” line like it’s still 2021. Has Yuki ever flipped off another racer during a live session? Especially from an affiliated team?
Yuki will always have more to prove his doubters
He nearly hit his teammate on purpose on an in lap this season 😂
@ “live session”
@@Anvil35 proof of his excessive emotion
He was on his best behavior while under the promotion microscope. Now that his fate is sealed, the antics will resume with vengeance.
Didn’t he throw his toys out the pram and divebomb his teammate on a cooldown lap after the race had finished??
Peter really should talk about aero grip as well as mechanical grip. Higher min speed is more aero load + flatter car (less pitch) from more sympathetic breaking best for ground effect
Thierry Neuville is just too nice a guy to be noticed / recognised. A bit Lando-like... This year he had a bit less of a handicap called bad luck...
About Max's teammates. I don't think Max is choosing the person in the other seat at Red-Bull, and the RB family needs to have the space to bring up their talents. Why would they pay Carlos AND probably lose their future prospects? As P.W. said himself: If you have a Lando, why bring an Oscar to nap his heels? If you have a Lewis, why bring on a George...
I think Carlos might be just what Williams needs to get back to their winning ways, slowly but surely: A guy with experience that can read a race, is fast and isn't crash-prone. He drove liberated this year, and it showed. No team orders possible to the sacked guy...
Perez: Seems the decisions were made months ago, but the money situation might have taken a bit of time.
Lawson vs Tsunoda: It's a good thing if they keep a bit of stability @ Torro-Rosso (whatever they want to call it now, I'll keep the TR for clarity) Lawson can learn at both teams, but if they promote Yuki, they've got a TR team without an experienced driver. Now they'll have both teams with an experienced driver and a rooky. If Hadjar is good, they'll be able to compare him to Yuki. You cannot compare Hadjar to Lawson, because Lawson is an unknown himself. They need to know ASAP, because they've got others needing an opportunity, in the near future.
Only reason Neuville won this year is that Rovanperä didn't drive, next year will be normal again.
Always said some rally drivers could replace most of the slackers on the f1 grid, no way we have the worlds best pilots as per the sky f1 narrative
I don`t pay attention to rally driving. I should. Thanks for this!
Yes Peter is right; McLaren were so desperate for the constructors championship win after sucking so hard for so many years that they lost the drivers championship for Lando
Windsor still crying about Lando Lol. Lando should apologise to McLaren for being a bottle merchant. Windsor thinks Ricciardo should still be at McLaren. Lol. Looking forward to his bleating when Piastri beats Norris next year.
I see your point. Norris bottled it to many times. So the team can't put all the card in his account. They have to play fair and let Piastri also grow.
But i think next year Lando will still beat Piastri on the hole season... My opinion
Are people not allowed to point out McLarens flaws because it doesn’t suit your narrative?
No reason to think Ferrari car will be better next year? What? Pure nonsense. He knows nothing about next years car.
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@@hotdiggityd what flaws? McLaren had the perfect season, they won the championship, Norris would not have won even if they would invoke team orders more often (as Windsor himself calculated) and they have two great drivers within the ranks like no other team (we dont know what to expect from Lewis in Ferrari, and both RBR and Merc have rookies). Peter downplays significante of having two great drivers on the top team while praising Carlos in Ferrari at the same time. He's just mad at McL for not playing favourite for the Brit even though it would have been detrimental to the team. Piastri could easily move to any other Team (maybe apart from Ferrari) and he would if he had no shot for the championship at McL.
All the Brits are just bashing on McLaren because it’s being run by an American, and many Brits “fancy” themselves superior and unable to accept Brown is leading them to incredible success.
If it wasn’t for the American, the McLaren F1 team may have left sport. How many years ago did McLaren basically had no sponsors?
PW is as much Australian as he is British. He lives in Spain.
Cameron I've said it before but I love when you have Peter on. I love his channel and yours and together you are great. Any idea when you will have any merchandise for purchase. I would love to know Peters thought on the watkins glen circuit I live a hour away and theres always some noise about maybe formula one coming back. Have a Merry Christmas.
Merry Christmas , Cam!
Will watch this in a wee while gents! Merry Christmas both
Peter did 10/7 you 'tecky' style😂 Picked up that Lando may actually learn to change his style; didn't think he would be able to, we'll see. Enjoyed and Great Christmas to all🎄🎄🎄👍
Twas indeed a 10-7. 🤣
Maybe Lando can do it. Maybe. He's plenty quick enough.
Merry Christmas Jeanne.
You're a legend!
@@Cameron-Cc You calling me a leg end?😂😂 Although my duck leg ends were very much enjoyed😂😂😂 Sorry, few red wines in🍷🍷🍷Enjoy your hols with your family😿⭐⭐🎄🎄👍
There's more than one camera positon involved on Passats De Canto. There's no way 1 videographer could do that alone.
The max obsession is killing me, I can’t take it anymore 😭
He's rubbish. Not even worth talking about. At all.
@ 😂😂 I understand from a pure racer pov why he’s so great, it just makes me very excited for next year cause he’ll have arguably the highest competition he’s ever faced. I AM betting against him though and don’t care about my bias either!
yuki is too emotional but liam raced for 6 gp and beefed with 2 different drivers in that timeframe, crashed with one of them, impeded another, and threw up his middle finger to one of them in the middle of the race. but liam isn’t emotional at all and is very well regulated 😐
Merry Xmas gentleman, sublime topics in this one❤
Lando will fail until he becomes an animal and refuse team orders
The idea that Lewis is just going to be chill and ok with Charles beating him I find fanciful. You don’t get 7 (or 8) world championships with that mentality.
To my surprise in this podcast ..when qualifing was the topic (Sainz versus Verstappen back in 2015).. there was no mentioning of Max not being so focussed on going for Pole Positions in the early years of his career. At least not as much as Charles and the others..
Max was quite fine qualifing 2'nd..3'rd or even lower. He was sure he could still win races without 'fine tuning' his qualifing untill..say... last 3 seasons..
Before..the main focus was on the long runs. They (RBR) were always more focussed on the Sundays..not so much on the Saturdays.
Again..I'm a bit surprised that hasn't been picked up on.
After his focus was also on fine tuning his qualifing sessions, that's when we say him taking them Pole Positions on a more regular basis too. At least more so than before.
I might be wrong..but actually I'm pretty sure I'm not.. ..just saying.. 😉
Definitely wrong as max is obsessed with records like Vettel he could have been the youngest pole sitter also and Ricciardo beat him in quali he’s not that fast on one lap
@@Grand_inquisiteurYou're missing the point. Untill the 2021'season he only had 3 pole positions in his first 6 seasons at that time. The other 38 only came after that.
And to state Max 'being obsessed over records'..you haven't been listening when Max was being asked about that.
He often spoke about how he's not too busy thinking about that.
But.. maybe you know something that he doesn't .... 😉✌️
Splendid! I had to go watch that WRC test, insane
It is bonkers eh!?
I’m grateful for the mistakes made. Keep wining Max. Keep taking advantage of all there errors.
For @peterwindsor. What is your background in Music Peter, you know a lot about music and the music on your channel is always interesting and quite sophisticated. (sorry for the off-topic)
Peter is a Legend and he hasn’t got an ounce of bias.
I however do not agree with his choice for Lando & George. Charles was better. Carlos is heavily underrated. Ferrari had the best driver pairing.
Thank you! 🎁
Stop talking about the community and getting techy
Lmaoooo Peter “it’s not techy”. Tough one, Cam
10-7 Windsor 😃
Seb Vettel new his F1 history
i was there in the brazil beach-gate: DRUGO! DRUGO! DRUGO!
Peter is correct about leclerc.
How is a 70 point gap to Carlos and 18-6 in race h2h not dominating a teammate!!!!!
Carlos missed a race. If your numbers are correct, 17-6 and the pts would’ve been in the 60 range. 2.5 pts difference per GP. Not really domination
@@michaeldellorso889 and Charles had engine failure DNF in Canada, Sandwiched at lap 1 in Austria, inters on dry at Silverstone. That's 3 races he couldn't score out of his control compared to Carlos single DNS.
@ he was having a disaster in Canada anyway, had a horrible quali in Austria, and made a ridiculous tire choice in Silverstone
@@michaeldellorso889 would still score points
@@michaeldellorso889 Again that's not on him. He was ahead of Carlos in Canada before his engine gave up. Horrible quali comes from experimental setups he did to fix the car's bouncing issues. All while Carlos comfortably went back to old upgrades. Tire choice wasn't on him in Silverstone, they told him it was gonna rain soon and pitted him. What could he have done?
Carlos would get better race results in a Haas than a Williams but Haas is pretty close to Ferrari- relationship wise. Adios Ferrari...
Max running scared of Carlos Saint? He doesn't like competition 😅
...there are things called books..." therein lies the rub.
So stupid to think Russel and Norris. Better than Leclerc??? You lost it Mr Peter
Of couuse they owe. He's British..,
I think lando is lucky that Mclaren dropped the ball a few times. Because that gives lando an excuse for losing the WDC. Because it would’ve been even more embarrasing when he got manhandled by max and he had no one to blame but himsef. Obviously I’m 100% sarcastic lando norr-if wasn’t even close to being at max’s level and he never will be. And he’s even luckier that charles didn’t have the car to take the sub and constructors away!😂
Need fuller UA-cam reference for the program recommended
I don't understand? 🤯😱😭
@ can the complete URL be posted ?
Now Cameron stop saying bullshit about isack now that Peter said how great he is and how irrelevant your take about him is.
Pin this.
Let's revisit it next year once he gets replaced by Lindblad.
Lanndo is not WC material. Piastri will become the McLarens No 1 driver.
Didn't podium till Monaco. Outqualified 20-4. Lando had fewer mistakes than a much older Hill in 1995.
what do you insignificant trolls know more than Peter does?
Windsor and I know how good Lando can be...will be.
Poor Cameron has done his best to diminish Lando! 50:44
I've been bigging up his racecraft all yr chap.
It's not my fault he can't convert.
Worthy criticsm if uask me.
fault of drivers forcing him to avoid accidents. Oscar shouldn't have tried as risky a move as he did in Monza on Sir Lewis or Charles let alone a teammate.
He's not going to be the finished article
competing in the Upper Midfield for his career. 35 year old Hill made more mistakes in 1995...but Williams made even more. Brawn made Williams strategists look silly. McLaren strategists were also somewhat wanting.
REE BULL ARE WRONG VERY WRONG AND IT WOULDNT END WELL. MAX IS THE SAME ON R
Windsor still having a sook
Oscar Jack cooks Norris next year mentally and on track
😂
Maybe LeClair needs a new girlfriend. 37:22
😂 very true.
I’m surprised Peter still harps on the “Yuki screams and shouts a lot” narrative. That’s something Yuki barely shows at all especially in 2023-24, he’s been super calm over the radio, a real team player and leader for Vcarb, everyone loves him in that team and his feedback is also nice. This 2021 narrative is just tiring to hear
You must be insane, trying to torpedo Ricciardo on a cooldown lap is calm!?😂😂
@@joedutchnl3948that’s a one off (plus it was a lockup, even Yuki admits later if I recall correctly, there was no intent to harm).
Lando has never been championship material. In a competitive car it took him 6 seasons to win 1 race!! In his first 2 seasons he only had 1 podium!! Compare that to Max, when he got into a Red Bull, in his first season (came in for just 17 races), he had 1 win and 7 podiums. Some drivers have it, others don't!
Windsor really convinced me here that Sainz actually would have been the best driver to pair with Max. I simply hadn't seen it from that perspective
It's a good shout right?
Lando is a lot like the Honey Badger; he is a nice guy, but he doesn't seem to have the desire to win. It doesn't have to be at the level of the Red Baron (or Senna or Verstappen)
Lando should grovel at Brown/McLarens feet, thank his lucky stars he was even competitive this year - it surely wasnt his racecraft.
Old Pete picking nando and George is British bias, norris was owned by Oscar in quite a few races in HIS 2nd year , old Pete didn't mention team orders by Macca...
McLaren should apologise to Lando?!?! Lando should apologise to McLaren and the thousands who bult that rocketship of a car Lando DIDN'T win a championship in!
I think this is a take that will age poorly. Lando is not him and McLaren know it
Lando can never be a champion simply because he does not believe in it not in his blood like Oscar and Charles
If lando wasn't playing cuck to max all season he would be wdc
Landos still a boy not a man
Hes not even the fastest at McLaren
What MAx and Liam have in common, is that none of them appears as likable persons
Liam is a failure, he is not WC material, but he think otherwise, and will definitely not be happy being No 2 driver.
Come on Cam Peter is still delusional in regard to Hungary. OP beat LN in to T1 and drove off and what did the Pit wall do? Pit LN first TWICE when OP ad earned the right to be pit first and all at a track well known for its large UC. Then there's LN's petulant sooky attitude when the PW said to slow down when he was cooking the tyres to which he replied tell Oscar to hurry up. Oscar was cruising at the delta set on the wheel ..
So what did you do for the rest of the year. I find myself defending Norris against one eyed fan boys. Oscar is on an upward trajectory but he was thoroughly beaten by Norris this year because....he was faster. And I'm an Aussie like you and looking forward to Oscar being the next Aussie WDC. I am just so over juvenile comments.
@@sbGOMFor one get off your high horse. 2, I'm not a fan of OP but hope he does well and 2 WHO MENTIONED other races and where did I say LN didn't beat him over the year or wasn't quicker ? That was you FFS.
People like you are so hilarious you make up shit from nowhere to create something out of nothing.
Facts is I read talking about Hungary you dope and what I said is absolutely accurate go fkn watch it again. Op was screwed by having LN serviced first both times yet so if Peter's comments were as if LN had somehow deserved to be given the win.. Absolutely bullshit..
You should get a job in the media..