Arguing with Schizophrenia hallucinations. What’s it like?
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- What do I always argue about with my Schizophrenia hallucinations?
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You can tell the frustration rising
For me I learned that repeating hallucinations that don't learn and just loop what they say are being caused by you triggering an association, with a thought or even a neuromuscular association through a certain posture or facial expression. Pay real close attention to where your mind and body is when this character says her bit and see if you notice any patterns. It could be as subtle as putting your tongue on the roof of your mouth or tilting your head when you are recalling a conversation
She is not tryna listen , she wants you to believe it
Every schizophrenic person ive met...who somehow manages to hold it together. Even on meds...it always looks like different parts of the brain are arguing. The person never wants to hear the voices. They themselves are tired of hearing this too...or seeing things. I feel bad for ppl with this disorder. Reminds me epilepsy...where parts of the brain cause seizures.
Thank you. I don’t need you to feel bad for me. I’m doing pretty well. I just share my journey.
I wonder,,, is it the thought process that is more or less interpreted as a voice in the head. Or is it hearing audible sounds as if someone were next to you . I spoken with someone that says things like this and the way it’s described sounds a lot like it’s a mental voice in the head (or-a thought that is given a voice) and not a clear audible sound like a fart , or the doorbell ringing. Just trying to distinguish the difference if any for myself here . I have someone very close to me that may be experiencing this . Thank you
any feedback would be helpful
@@JR-ld1etI’ve read a fair amount of stuff now, I believe it’s almost like bouts of daydreaming, but you can’t tell and it feels real
Oh yes they will argue. The whispering you can tell, they are arguing. The funny part is I keep thinking it’s the neighbors but I can’t tell anymore. The only time I can tell is if I look outside and see people fighting or arguing then I know. I know.
I see
Your conchesness could be in touch with the quantum field or quantum entanglement. Maybe you are hearing with your mind and not your ears.
Your conchesness could be in touch with the quantum field or quantum entanglement. You could be hearing with your mind and not your ears.
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My mother would accuse me of lying, I could be shoving the proof in her face proving my innocence, but she would never relinquish her accusations no matter what, like she knew better and there was a sick nasty animal inside of me that compulsively seeks to deceive. There were times I was beaten as a child for telling the truth, and told I was lying anyway. The anxiety I get over being wrong is unreal. I almost can't say anything without disclaiming it with, "I think," or "I believe." And if I ever realize I was wrong I immediately pipe up and call it out hopefully before anyone else can. Listening to her vent about it is like... Self healing.
That’s gaslighting (and abuse), I’m sorry you went through that.
But the nice thing is: it was never you to begin with. You - we never the problem. She was. And all of it - was projection.
When you realize all the accusations were pure bullsh - that was created by other people… It’s so much easier ti live with it.
Because bs was never yours to carry. It’s not personal.
The more you see just how bias & bs-projecting other people are - you just can’t take it seriously anymore 😂 It’s not personal, you just cannot take it personally anymore. Honestly, it becomes almost laughable. People are ridiculous.
The more you realize it - the easier it gets. You stop carrying the weight of THEIR bs around. You become free.
It’s a process, but you’ll sure get there 👍
I wish you well 🍀
Man this is super sad 😢
@@tate_n Thank you so much.
Yes! Went through the same thing. It is so frustrating and terrifying as a child to think your parent's opinion of you has changed based on something you didn't even say or do. Some of my most vivid memories are of begging my parents to believe me about something they had no real reason to question. Now as an adult I wonder if they thought it was funny or something.
My dad also always assumed the worst intentions behind any benign mistake or action. It got to the point where I was questioning my own intentions 24/7 and thought I must be secretly evil. Omg just by typing this out I realized this is the source of my life-long imposter syndrome and severe perfectionism lol.
@@kendra31 oh my god Kendra that's exactly what it feels like, and if you are visibly affected at all they totally demonize any negative emotion you express on top of it. Thank you so much for opening up about that, it really clicked something for me.
😂 im over here about to start arguing with your hallucination with you. I started explaining in my head the difference myself
Im do over protective with my friends that if I was to see her arguing I’ll be fly kicking something in the air throwing jabs in mid air lol 😂 like girl you good? Let me at them lol 😂
You have a lot of patience. Imagine having to argue about having two eyes, like "Count them! One, two!" over and over again.
Funny because my father has the diagnosis of schizophrenia yet he says he don't hear voices😂😂😂
@@tiahill8120not everyone diagnosed with schizophrenia will experience hallucinations or hear voices , only about 70-80% do. Some are just paranoid .
A lot of people hide their symptoms to avoid people assuming theyre afraid of people assuming they need stronger meds or even to be institutionalized, fearing that people around them not being able or willing handle taking care of the schizophrenic if their condition got worse... This in itself can be a paranoid delusion, in fact is one of mine.. constantly trying to figure out how to ask for help without people suddenly treating me differently ,walking on eggshells around me when I tell them I'm having a harder time with the racing thoughts. ..@@tiahill8120
The voices tend to attack your insecurities
I can agree mine told me i had schizophrenia because i was mean and evil im the exact opposite. Ive been avoiding videos like this but its helping me today im not alone thank you for making these. The hallucinations have calmed down but the mean paranoia is still there.
God don’t let my ex see this , he’d be claiming to have schizophrenia to get out of his intentional habit of lying lmao
Yeppppppppp this is so true, im tired of arguing, and the physiological factors of feeling shat that ain't there and hearing the voices too
They always tell me I'm tripping badly at least I got them to realize that they are me. They usually say I messed up big time, they keep thinking that I'm changing my mind but I am not! They also say I'm him for the rest of my life. I'm very truthful with them, I have used my vivid lucid daydreaming to show them the amazing things I can do. I literally have to educate them hoping well the subconscious mind/schizophrenia would get smarter only a tad bit, I just gotta show love, and show schizophrenia when they're wrong with logical thinking. It helps to work with them and to make goals
Honestly, it sounds like my ex-husband and I
😂😂
I can relate - im not schizophrenic but i do have OCD and DID 😅
I have DID AND OCD too, super relatable about the “you lied”
at least with DID you know you're not hallucinating if you know the alter you're arguing with and you can dish it out to them "in person" in the headspace 😂
@@arsena5209 Yes, i agree! i dont know what its like to have schizophrenia its just relateable situations.
Tjat sounds so freaking exhausting 😢
Your designs are fascinating. Awesome artist.❤
They always say the mean thing about us
Prayers my brother is afflicted with this illness an i can relate ,your an amazing person ❤
Mine too ❤️ prayers to you and him
Tell them to Google it!
Unfortunately Google has no answers
I’m so sorry. This must be torture. Has it been hard to find a drug that helps with that? I’ve helped a couple of people who were in a mental health crisis, & one had schizophrenia. Part of her was standing back, watching & listening, unable to stop the voices, which told her all kinds of lies and disturbing things. And she was such a kind, intelligent young woman, I just hated to see her fear & confusion. I hope she got some effective treatment, too.
I hope you have a beautiful day, and that you have
peace in your heart & mind.
When we argue with ourselves, we never win. Sound advice I was given. Im passing it on. As hard as it is to do, and believe me i get it, the less you engage with these the less they come. These delusions and hallucinations need attention to survive. At the end of the day its literally just your brain miscommunicating with itself. You yourself have the power to choose to engage with these or not. Try not engaging. If you have to say anything just say ok and continue to go about your day. I spent months locking myself in a room scared to death and fighting nothing. Ive been through alot and found the best treatment ive gotten was this advice. If its not real it doesn't need reasoned with, rationalized with, or engaged with. It needs ignored , soon the screaming becomes a whisper. Thoughts can become ingrained and the more power you give it, the more it feeds.
I don’t understand why schizophrenic hallucinations are always so rude and annoying. Why aren’t there nice hallucinations? That blows my mind!!
It must be almost like something that’s been bothering you subconsciously
@@ys1876 oh that’s interesting. I never thought of that before but you are probably on to something there.
You’re a warrior 😢 God bless you !!
Sounds like my internal thoughts on steroids
My sincere empathy my dear, thanks for the explanation and being open to talk about it.
Sounds like my marriage
Why do the voices have to be so annoying 😂
🤷🏼♀️ 😂
Sorry if you have already been asked this, I have an inquering mind!
What happens if you try to lead your voices? I mean in terms of the subject your talking about, I don't mean trying to control them or make them be quiet or go away, I realise they aren't a conscious thing. I mean, for example, it stuck out to me when you said "she. Never. Listens. To. Me" and I just wondered, what happens if you respond to the voices with something totally and completely unexpected, that doesn't suck you into their argument?
I'm not asking as if I expect you to have never tried this, I'm sure you have done I'm just intrigued what happens.
So like if that voice is telling you your lying, before you ever even engage with their argument have you ever just said something totally random to them? Like you called it a she, have you ever randomly just been like... Woah, how are you talking like a lady, your a male donkey?! And totally disregarded their subject and just go off on your own?
Do they get mad or just annoyingly reptative?
Thank you for being so open and educational about your condition, schizophrenia is something that has always intrigued me so much in terms of what it is actually like to live with it.
Te compadezco hermana! Debe ser muy difícil convivir con ésto toda tu vida, eres un ejemplo de resiliencia. Eres grande, y fuerte. Es muy bueno el modo en cómo describes todo lo que sucede y cómo lo vives, cómo lo sientes y cómo lo sufres, porque te hace sentirlo como realmente lo viviría cualquier persona, derribas con todos los prejuicios y los tabúes acerca de esta condición, de una forma muy adecuada y fácil de comprender, y de ponerse en el lugar del otro, te felicito por el modo en que puedes procesarlo y transmitirlo
Ugh, I've had this same argument with my kid and little cousins. They love to try and do a "gotcha" and I'm trying to tell teach them the difference.
Heavy deliverence is required...one suggestion i could give .
Oh that's fucked. I can't even comprehend how much your subconscious thoughts much fucks with you like that... Must be hard on the self worth 💜 stay strong
That must be hella difficult ❤❤❤
I’m not sure yet if I have schizophrenia but I’m looking for a psychiatrist to diagnose me(even though I’m desperate not to get diagnosed). If anyone wants to know what it’s like to live with my version of visual and auditory hallucinations, watch the music video or listen to the song,”round and round,” by Ratt.
I wish you the best on getting some help, even with your concerns! You got this
I know that even if getting diagnosed is scary, you at least will have access to help. Help in the shape of learning skills and tools to deal better with the issue and, if needed, meds. Meds can truly be a godsend when it comes to relieving some of the menstal load. If nothing else and you dont have a mental disorder you now have still access to a therapist who can help you figure out how to deal with what you stuggle with and to find out where it may have come from and most importantly how to handle it with skills and tools. ❤
I'd be calling the voice a liar lol
give this woman her flowers 💐💐💐, 😅❤
I love you channel. I also just have to say a funny thing is I had a conversation like this with my toddler. And he sounded exactly like that lol, he said I lied when I told him where his shoes were and I was wrong. So we had this lying conversation about that lol. Keep up the good work.
Omg I relate its so frustrating 😫
It happened to me when I was bad, I heard sounds like voices... that happened to me, now it doesn't happen to me... but I don't know why for a while I heard voices... and I had fights with myself in my head responding to that voice.
I would explain one of my issues with OCD very similarly which is interesting.
That sounds so frustrating❤
Sometimes I wonder if psychosis isn’t not being in reality but more than one at once..but just a theory
It's a extreme version as adhd or one of the other mental health issues I have. Bc I have the voices but it's my narrator not actually people
So after you have a hallucinogenic episode and you return to reality, you can remember who and what your episodes were about? I know you said when you return to reality that you don’t remember what you were doing in reality but curious about while and after episode
I've only hallucinated once and it was because I was very sick and unhealthy. It was so real I didn't even know it was a hallucination until after it was over and I started questioning it. Basically I was laying in bed and this dark haird lady came up to me and we were having a business meeting. She was telling me important stuff. Then the vacuum scooted forward and started sharing its opinion. Lol. Yet I didn't question any of it until it was over. I was like did my vacuum just speak to me?? My hallucination was funny but also terrifying. I feel like it gave me more of a understanding of what people experience.
During an argument is it possible to not be drawn into it , thus crewting a space between yourself and the voice until it gives up?
I would like to have an arguing voice in my head. My parrot doesn't talk to me, my parents always working and I have no friends at all 😅... Who should I talk to? 😂
Can you verbalize why you argue with a hallucination when you seem aware it is an hallucination? I really want to understand because my son is showing signs of schizophrenia and I really want to understand.
Because the hallucination isn’t really a hallucination. It’s a secondary consciousness. You listen to it because it knows everything you do. You know how you listen to that one voice in your head? I have another one. I like to think of it as all of my guilt and hate personified, because that’s how it acts. I need to argue with it, the same way you can’t stay quiet when someone says something crazy to you. That’s the only way to win against it. It’s not always wrong, though, it usually has its basis in truth.
It’s impossible for you to understand, but what you consider your reality just doesn’t apply to everybody else. That voice in your head is a hallucination. Some people have multiple. “Hallucination” is actually an incredibly poor choice of words when it comes to hearing voices, because it’s not a hallucination at all. It’s a second version of myself that hates me. As real as the guy who’s writing this. I have autonomy over my body, but this horrible thing shares my brain.
Most people with schizophrenia think that the voices come from outside of their heads.
Thank you very much for that explanation it makes it much easier to understand.
@@suzannemartinez4345 my mother had no idea what was going on with me. Some hard, and maybe terrifying advice? This is his demon. He’s the only one with the means to chain it. Be supportive but assure him regularly that his mind is a strong enough weapon to fight it, I’ve met plenty people who’ve lost their whole lives to a belief in helplessness that simply wasn’t true.
It’s combined with delusion
How do you deal with this without medicine
I'm so sorry, that sounds very frustrating. Does it make you feel anxious? If so, how do you help yourself calm down again after you get this hallucination to leave you alone?
my mom does this as well
Would they leave you alone, when you tell them to leave in never ending argument ?
like during an argument with natural persons backoff !! am done explaining you Go away !
Do you think that the arguments in your hallucinations could be related to insecurities, or feelings of guilt, or problems you face in real life? Could it get better if for example you work consciously on trying to overcome those insecurities or feelings? Thanks for the info in your channel
Quick question maybe you could help me did Carol Bryant Dunham have schizophrenic hallucinations? Are we correct to assume she had hallucinations by locking her vehicle when a certain group walked by? Or living her life post confession to her death arguing her schizophrenic hallucinations? Curious
Who?
thats because she is only pretending to misunderstand you to aggravate you
Have you ever tried to just agree with the hallucinations just to see what happens? Like if they say you’re a liar or something negative just agree with it like it doesn’t affect you either way and go on about your day? Just curious
how long take one of those interactions. if your hallucination said youre a liar and youre complaining about. how long does it take? 5 minutes? hours?
Your not the liar the enemy is the devil is a liar! Don’t let them get to you!!
No such thing as the devil
What do they look like? What about having a dog? If the dog didnt go up to the hallucination then its not there.
I’m curious what would happen if you just said to the hallucination, “Okay, yes, I lied” (even tho u know the truth). “So what?” “What are you gonna do about it?” Instead of trying to argue with someone that’s not there, what do you think would happen if you just gave in to shut the voices up?
Does this also evolve into you telling others that they are lying all the time? N even with overwhelming proof the person isn’t lying do you still insist the other is lying……
Because do the voices insist that they are lying even when there is video evidence… odometer photos… checking in with multiple phone calls… 24/7 GPS position… n even say I can manipulate the phone… a LANDLINE one could call to check in… full permission to go through phone… I’m old this person brought up the fact the iPhone can have two different screens WHAT I didn’t even know that shit till this person said that to me… full permission n passwords to everything… n yet this individual would still go off on rage saying I’m lying…. Government documents W2 showing where time and $ was spent… credit card statements full access…like I bent in a pretzel so either I thought I was assuring a person who explained in the past others lied to them assurance….. yet it was never enough… Like for real… say you were dealing with someone who was undiagnosed when you met them 4 years ago was different then they feel comfortable n after the 4 years going on 4 years n 2 months getting worse n worse….
This popped up in my recommendation my question is if outside an episode you may be aware-sorry if I'm getting this wrong- I'm trying to genuinely understand. If you are aware that it's a voice that's working you up the next time the voice. Says you are lying can you just ignore it?
My mom is schizophrenic and I be saying the same thing to her , to not let them (the voices) win , try to just ignore them but it never works , she refuses to get help, its exhausting 😢
What would happen if you tell them 'alright okay, I lied and I am a liar. Thats just your opinion.' Would that give them less power over you since you don't take them seriously? Or would it make the hallucination even harder? Sorry if thats a too similar question or sounds offensive, I'm just curious
She sounds like me
She never listens
This broke my heart sis 😢please call out to Jesus these “voices “ aka demons will flee! Girl you are Gods creation he loves you more than anything! All you gotta do is say Jesus help me say it out loud say it three times! And these enemies will leave you alone on your command in the name of Jesus ❤ my heart aches for people with schizophrenia because they are not crazy!! They are seeing something that is real that we cannot see and as the body of Christ we need to bring more awareness to this and pray for them! Set the captive free!!! ❤
Can you try not arguing to her once ? Can you control that?...
You just said she. Are all of your hallucinations female? Or are they male too? How many different ones do you have? Do they dress a certain way? I wonder what they look like this is very interesting
I we have the same fight. I just call it with myself. But the way II pretty much ended that 1 was. It's just a word that's tcute cuz. You're scarcely you're not a liar Glenn lawyer. I said who it was, I just didn't say it in the way that most people were expected to be said and therefore not making me look like a liar because I wasn't lying. I was arranging my words carefully to explain the exact same situation and a better like not changing what happened. Just explaining it better and that argument stopped with myself.
May God bless you Îs very painfull If you say yes I lie maybe disappear 😢
Are the voices ever positive?
We laugh sometimes
Are you ever scared of a hallucination? Have any of your family or friends been scared of you because of a hallucination?
Sounds like schizos can hear spirits.. I wonder if that spirit died in regret of something?😫
Are you able to tell the hallucination to eff off and you’re not a liar?
You ever thought schizophrenia is just bad spirits reach out to you to make u feel crazy *serious question
Next time try asking what did she think you lied about.
If she the part of your self that feels like you’re a lying maybe you could try addressing the feelings that are not being validated.
So are you talking to an hallucination in this video?
If you truly hear and see then why do ypu believe its hallucinations? I believe most of us lost the Ability
Lied about what? Wrong about what?
Phew the way I would clown them 😂 why not get some sort of enjoyment outta it. I’d start quoting Jesus as responses, start signing a psalm if they use a word that’s in that psalm. Start giving them “did you know” facts about scripture 😂
Omg...
I hope it gets better for you, hope they listen to you more 💯🤍
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I have the same problem with voices you need 2 learn 2 stop listening and definitely don't reply
Do your hallucinations have names? You referred to this one as “she”. That’s very interesting.
So you recognize the voices are they the same since childhood
They have changed over time
Are these voices are demonic entities?
The arguments are sooo stupid and draining. I get similar, but who died and made what sounds like a human voice doing malice and things against human rights, the wannabe god of you.
Do you ever have any tall, dark and handsome hallucinations show up? Are some more pleasant than others physically? Are there men and women?
Im sorry they F* with you so much
hey, ok I know NOTHING about treating psychosis but, I would say that since it's a part of you, that Is thinking this way, why dont you try talking to her, like a friend with calm, and compassion. Try to explain her, your other part of the brain everything with love, there must be something abouf that side of brain that is hurt and thus says those things. I hope you read this.
Find my two questions I asked you; I have your cure!
Pray to Jesus, they are demons, pray 🙏
Women voice? or man voice?
Have you tried ignoring the voices ?
No offence, but who are these 'we' you are talking about.
Demons are real....
So the she is you and a representation of you ?
Oh my God it is like my OCD. They were like real voices. 😮😮😮😮 That happens to me when I was 13 years. I was going crazy. But I found God. Sister, I highly recommend you go to Church. Catholic church. Eucharist. I have improved a lot through the years, spiritual guide, reading a lot. Im from Perú and I don't know english very well, I hope you can understand what i wanted to communicate