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This is Episode #35, where we discuss 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Originally recorded 10/09/24.
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My favorite story about the aftermath of 9/11 is that the Maasai people of Kenya tried to send us 14 cows in support saying “To heal a sorrowing heart, give something that is dear to your own.” Thank you Kenya, you are a real one.
🤣
We really all got the same for you page huh
Man why is that actually really sweet 🥺 like America and Kenya are friends or something I imagine they talk over the phone and the countries are all sentient. Nah but fr it's nice of them I think
WELL, DID WE ACCEPT THE COWS?!
That story always makes me cry, it's so loving and kind.
Charlie did it
I like how he has become the red thread poltergeist
Nah he's too scared of planes
That's why he left the podcast
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, THATS SO FUNNY!!!!!!
@@super-tianlikely story
7/11 was a part-time job
Pleaseeee 😂
You made me giggle a little 😂
😅😅
Nicely done. 👏
Even tho it’s the third top comment THIS IS UNDERRATED ONG🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
You guys should cover Hurricane Katrina. Enough governmental failures for a 5 hour episode
all the money for rebuilding that disappeared... that's no conspiracy, that's a feature.
I was literally just thinking this. At least Wendi should do a video about.
I remember watching a documentary on the prison that hurricane Katrina hit. They were basically abandoned, left in their cells to drown. Some broke out and ended up in the roof. I remember one guy who was an inmate saying he and a bunch of the elderly had to block off a cell to protect the younger kids that were there from predators. After they were finally evacuted they ended on a highway surrounded by solders and basically not given much food or water...seriously even though some were bad people they were treated less than animals. It actually made me tear up because my dad was an inmate for years. He wasn't there but if he was treated like that I'd be angry
(Also got the 69th like lol nice)
@@JRchandlerr I second this
so many issues youd think they were planned..
I'm 30. And what I remember is being PISSED because it was all that was on TV, on every channel. For so long. I was literally angering my mom with how much I was complaining about not being able to watch my cartoons 😂 That's what I remember.
Cartoons didn’t run during this time? Thats so interesting! I had no idea (I’m 25 so I don’t remember it).
People couldn't even distract themselves to try to get it off their minds, just constant exposure to misery
@@The_Sharktocrab wow! So every channel just became coverage? Sorry I’m so amazed by this detail.
@@emmawills4112Well, it's important to note I had three channels. We were poor, and only had local TV. Back then having internet and satellite (or cable) was for more middle class people. Nowadays having access to the internet and a billion things to watch is the norm even in the poorest places in the first world, but back then in my poor home we had three channels. And yes it was constant coverage. It makes sense to me now, considering it's literally a global history changing event, but back then, I was tryna watch family guy and the Simpsons and king of the hill 😂
To be fair, I believe at least where I was Nickelodeon and Cartoon Network still ran cartoons, though I remember slight changes, like they pulled Mobile Suit Gundam due to being about war.
I thought we were going to get the “remember kids, the next time somebody tells you the government wouldn’t do that, oh yes they would” Wendigoon this episode😔
This is more of a "it's not that they wouldn't do that, it's that they couldn't" in terms of people finding out/Money lost/potential failure
@@trev0rcRscmon they did it
@@Starlordkimst73 nah i'm with Goon, I think it was just a massive failure of our systems set to protect us, and is an excuse to intrude on our privacy.
@@Starlordkimst73The truth is a lot more painful. The US designed Al-Queda with Project Cyclone. They provoked them and then declared war on Afghanistan to make money and get votes. I wish it was an inside job because that would be less bleak.
@@Starlordkimst73where’s the proof?
Kaleb’s joke about frog and toad was one of the funniest jokes I’ve heard on the show and wendigoon was just stone faced lmao
Its Caleb with a C. Only correcting bc my name is Caleb and it's the correct way lol all those K Caleb's are frauds 😅
@@CulperCast lmao, my b.
@CulperCast I've only ever met ones with C so I feel you lol also Caleb's name was on the screen for like 95% of this episode 😂
@@CulperCastus K Kaleb’s, should be the only correct way of spelling it honestly 😭
@@kalebisthename2823 Sorry Matt but Caleb looks and feels better. Kaleb isn't terrible though.
The CIA hitlist is about to look like a boogie transcript. "Jackson Clark, Jackson Clark said -, people like Jackson Clark..."
*Clarke
"we've investigated our own story and confirm it checks out and there was no wrongdoing." - the government
And all the independent and international investigators
@@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDyeah, apparently we just have to ignore all them and claim they’re stupid. Or at least that’s what the comments tell me.
If you think the U.S. government were the only people investigating 9/11 then you must be a special kind of ignorant.
Let me guess: no mention of WTC7 in this podcast
I was in 5th grade, and they brought my class into the library to watch the news after the first plane hit. When the second plane hit all the kids were like "woa, cool, what movie is this? That's awesome. " And all the teachers were crying.
I was in the 5th grade, too. My teacher had a serious talk to us about what happened.
@omgtatercat they didn't explain shit to us. I had no idea what was going on until I got home and my 13 year old sister told me we were going to die because we got invaded.
We watched the TV until the towers fell then they just sent us home, and my mom didn't get off work until like 6 or 7 hrs later.
I was in 5th grade too, but i was at home sick from school. My mom and I watched it happen on TV. My school showed the classrooms. My mom was upset that my younger sisters class watched it. She is 3 yrs younger than me. She didn't think she needed to see that being so young.
wtf a child does NOT need to see that.
Here before UA-cam put the context box above the title
DUDE ITS ALREADY ADDED
It's there for me now lol
"MY DAUGHTER WAS BORN 9/11"
*context box*
Same
Too late
I think an episode on the Vegas concert shooting would be a really interesting episode. There's so many conspiracies about that one. Guy moves like 24 rifles, a pistol, and tons of ammunition up 30+ floors to his room and injured like 800+ people, killing about half of them. Nobody even knows why he did it, and it is such a baffling series of unexplainable events.
They’re not gonna cover it. They can’t make vague nothing statements and not really talk about the actual elements of the conspiracy like they did with this episode.
Do you think 400 people died in Vegas or did you type that super strangely?
That's super crazy, if you do.
@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD I misread it when I glanced at the injured counts. 800 was the total injured by sitting and the panicking of the crowd.
@@koquarianwhere did you get that half of the injured died?
@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD I'll break down the miscount. An estimated 200 people were injured by gunfire (that is not including shrapnel), 60-80 died, but an estimated 800 were injured in the evacuation. I took the "about half died" prompt and tied it to the 800 rather than the 200.
Half of the comments: "Here's what I was doing on that day..."
The other half of the comments: "Why didn't you guys cover the *actual* conspiracies?"
The other other half: Charlie did it.
@@shiddyangler There's 3 halves to every story
Lmfao yea the people telling everyone what there poop looked
Like that day is annoying af 😂
It’s because they really dropped the ball on covering the actual evidence supporting the conspiracy theories beyond what Wikipedia told them to say. If you are going to talk about the 9/11 conspiracy theories, then go for the actual evidence rather than just lazily going for the low hanging fruit and talking down to your audience.
If they talk about the actual conspiracies they will get unalived.
The story of the woman who jumped and somehow survived the fall yelling im not dead over and over is the most haunting one to me, I just can't imagine being those first responders seeing the people who made that choice to go out on their terms.
"The living dead" is what the story is called I think.. at least thats what you can look up to read the story for anyone who's interested. You just look up - 9/11 "The living Dead".
@@cjware316 yeah I think you're right she was yelling it to the guy who was putting tags on people
God... shock is a hell of a thing, the description of what her bodies condition was still haunts me when I think about it..."IM NOT DEAD! LET ME CALL MY DAUGHTER" I just feel so horrible for everyone in that situation
An impact like that is insane. It will litterally crack your skin like pavement being hit by a sledgehammer.
For what it's worth, I think I read that she fell.
The sad part is we are continuing to lose people to this day because of how many people breathed in dust and debris dying of cancer and complications
And yet they joke like this entire incident was funny.
@@____K_____989 No one thinks the deaths are funny
Jackson was clearly trying to be sensitive by not making the intro from the perspective of a passenger on one of the hijacked planes. Class act.
And then he started making jokes about it.
@@quesopasso What was the joke? I may have missed it
I thought the intro was going to end with us being Wahlberg.
Yeah this came off as so out of touch. Joking about the whole thing while some viewers could have had family members die. My neighbor was in the pentagon and had friends die.
@@TFLdotcom
That's why it's a joke
I remember my teacher would always have a moment of silence at 9:11AM. One time we asked why and he explained to us that he had students on board one of the planes and does that to respect their memory.
speaking of conspiracy theories, I hope red thread would cover an episode about snowden and julian assange. thats true dystopian shit right there
@@iiiiiiiiiiiiililiiiiio nickga wut
I understand if you want to debunk the outlandish theories but theres almost no mention of any of the actual suspicious coincidences surrounding 911. Like the owner who famously had breakfast in the towers every day just so happened to have an appointment on 911 and profited heavily from their destruction. Or how the planes exploded and burned hot enough to collapse the towers but didn't damage the passport of a terrorist that was most likely in the cockpit at the time of the collision. You dont have to draw conclusions but it feels like whoever resarched this episode was completely uninterested in most of the finer details of 911
Jacksons the type of guy to realize his planes getting hijacked and say , " I knew I should of stayed home today."
Just my luck, first my flight is delayed now this
Arnold from the magic school bus vibe
"oh brother, it is NOT my day!"
Reasonable response
*should HAVE
So brave of Charlie to fly a plane into the towers for red thread content even after his departure 😔🙏
the saddest part is, in like a few decades, i could definitely believe that the newest generation are going to find bin laden vids and see classic moist content and start making bruce wayne/ batman esque arguments about how charlie was the head of al-qeada and for some reason loved some weird message boards in his spare time as he lived in a cave for some reason... god florida has gotten weird
Heh, departure
He always wanted to do those crazy car chase
@@JustinBlades-s2v just saying that we have never seen charley and bin laden in the same room......
Dude go to Charlie's channel. This is so fucking overplayed. Jackson IMMEDIATELY said there are too many charlie references when a joke was made.
This is disrespectful to the other guys honestly.
Caleb’s way to comedically diffuse literally anything is so talented and such a good addition to the pod
Its so nice for them to have Oompaville on so much to help him out thats so nice to set him up with a permanent guest contract
I didn't realize he needed that much help. Isn't his channel just about as big as wendigoon?
Wendigoon has over 3 million. Oompaville has over 5.5 million.
he was making a reference to a moment in the video where they discuss people not realizing Caleb is now a part of the group and not a guest. It was just a joke.
I'm 33 and it's almost alien to me hearing adults today talk about not having memories of 9/11. It was the only thing adults at the time talked about for months. At home, at school, at church, at the grocery store with your mother, it didn't matter. Even other kids at school parroting what they heard their parents saying at home. You couldn't escape it.
Same bro I'm 32 I was in the 4th grade when it happened.
same bro, born 1990. It was such a monumental event and the world felt markedly different afterwards. We are getting old!
Feel the same way. It's like wait a minute. I swore it came out that the Intel agencies was not talking to each other which caused it to slip though the cracks.
Also in my thirties but I got to sort of escape it by living in Germany at the time. We didn’t have tv, so my mom took me and my siblings to a neighbor’s to watch the news. Even though we were American it felt like something sad happening to a country unrelated to me. Didn’t really hit me til years later.
I'm 30, and I had a similar experience. I remember fears about this not being the only attack... And the coverage of the ensuing war every day on TV. It was months of uncertainty about what would happen.
Can’t wait to be able to say I was one of the few who got to see the last Red Thread episode before all 3 host “mysteriously” go offline in real life
tbf they talked mostly about the official narrative
so they are safe
I don’t think I realized quite how young you all were until now, with you discussing how little you remember of that day. Crazy.
Yeah, every once in a while, they cover a topic that reminds me I'm an old man here, lol.
@@Justaguyuguyslol, good Ole green screen Oregon Trail.
I wasn’t even born yet 💀
Right?? It feels so bizarre to hear them say they were like 2 or 5 . I'm 40, I feel so old now xD
Right im an old lady geez😅
Love the content and love the channel but I’d be lying if I didn’t say I was pretty disappointed with this one. I feel like not only was a bit of the info untrue or obscured by huge relevant parts of information weren’t discussed during the entire 2 hour talk and honestly there’s clearly just a bias with one of the hosts… I’ll let you decide which one I’m talking about
Not the least bit surprising that he was the one pushing the official story. It's funny seeing otherwise intelligent people shut off their brains when their deeply ingrained beliefs are challenged.
But have you considered that maybe it's too stupid of an idea to seriously consider? One incredibly important point is the fact that a conspiracy becomes exponentially more unsustainable the more people get involved. The phrase "two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead" is more accurate than I could adequately convey in a novel-length dissertation. To even begin to believe that the hundreds of people that would need to be both intimately involved but also remain completely silent their entire lives is nothing short of paranoia.
Hahahaha how many people do you think knew? Bush didn't even know! And guess what? Three letter organizations keep MANY secrets that "hundreds" of people know.
There were credible people who spoke out against this. They're gone now. There is plenty pointing toward this event being the result of conspiring.
@@kadewiedeman3127 Your words are dollars but your point is loose change.
Burned into my memory here in the UK, I had finished work for the day and was at the bus stop when this old woman sat next to me said, 'It's terrible what's happened in America.' I asked her what she was talking about, but all she could say was it was some sort of big terrorist attack with planes. So I got home curious and walked into the living room where my little brother was sat on the sofa with the TV on. I asked him, 'What's happened in America?' And he just gestured at the TV and said one word, 'This'. I turned to see the BBC rerunning the footage of one of the planes hitting a tower (I don't remember which one though) Little Bro had work that evening so he was there to witness the BBC's very first breaking news report. I remember sitting down in shock and as I saw more of it, thinking the fact this isn't just footage from a disaster movie is so surreal. I also saw building seven collapse as it happened.
oddly enough the BBC announced one of the buildings collapse before it happened.
“Collapse”
The funny thing is, people can come up with all of these crazy ideas about steel beams, thermite, holograms, but in reality if the CIA wanted it done they'd have just flown to Saudi Arabia and paid those guys to carry it out.
They found thermite in the dust. That’s not a conspiracy
They trained Osama Bin Laden and his mujahiden in the 80s to fight off the Russians from Afghanistan. So technically......
Yeah, "9/11 was an inside job'" is really more the joking way of saying America reaped what they have long since sown in the Middle East. Same shit with Pearl Harbor and our general demeanor towards Japan pre-WW2.
Yeah we give Bush and his administration too much credit with the whole inside job conspiracy theory. In reality, America just did what America always does which is terrorize foreign nations and act shocked when those same nations retaliate against us.
@@deathproof8732 And oh boy, wait until you find out who funded ISIS!
Half assed episode. Wendigoon is afraid of being called a 9/11 conspiracist, and none of these guys even remember it. Useless commentary
It is. They missed sooo much important details. As soon as I saw how long the episode was I knew it wasn't a good one unfortionatly.
Real. No mention of the dancing Israelis?
We all know they don't wanna go into REAL conspiracy theories, but then, why make this video?
It's funny you say that, this happened to come across my feed for some reason on UA-cam. But when I actively look for older 9/11 conspiracy videos I can't find them. The old loose change final edition, and two other ones that I have on my computer but they're no longer available, can't be found. About 15 minutes into this one I already knew which way this was going to lean, and that's fine people have their opinions. I just find a curious that you two would shove this video in my face, but the ones I'm looking for, I have no access to. 😂 Also side note these kids are way too young to remember any of it let alone investigate this properly
I'm only a few minutes in and I can tell already they are going to try and play it off. I'm no longer interested in pretending my government is just simply incompetent.
@@shadowdemon7770 oompaville is old enough to remember it. And you don't have to be aware of something as it happens to research it thoroughly. They just didn't do the best job.
Holy shit. This feels like a season finale
Yeah episode 35.
*series finale
@@cody9325 NOOOOOOOOOOOO
It would have been if they didn't sidestep what we all know
What is it we all know brother@@paulstrife
Caleb brings such Golden Retriever energy to the show;
Conspiracies? Hell yeah!
Aliens? Love it!
Bully Jackson? Let's do this!
I knowwww I’ve always loved him bc of this. I’ve been a long time watcher of oompaville, and to see him grow to a point where he can collab with more of my other favorite content creators has been so cool. If you haven’t yet you should definitely check out his content he’s hilarious
He’s so excited to be here. Very animated like a puppy
this is the most milquetoast 9/11 video. They also spread misinformation about the amount of money missing being billions, when it was in fact 2.3 trillion unaccounted for and this was part of a years long audit process of the pentagon. Just poor form across the board.
I agree. 9/11 and the moon landing are THE premier conspiracy theories in the western world, and they absolutely choked with this.
And the wing that got hit just so happened to house some of the offices carrying out that audit.
They are kids and hat do you expect?
@@turquoise_hexagon_sun I expect the conspiracy dive podcast to not spread misinformation about the most conspiracy worthy oddities of the day. the pentagon aspect of 9/11 conspiracy is probably the most eyebrow raising and suspicious part of it all. This audit had been investigated since 1997 iirc. It was conclusively announced the day before it happened. To so grossly downplay by a magnitude of a thousand the amount of money missing seems almost intentional.
@@turquoise_hexagon_sun my original comment got deleted, UA-cam is weird. I expect them to be better as the conspiracy theory dive podcast. Their misinformation is so egregious it seems intentional.
Lmao Rosie O'Donnell's quote, "The first time fire melted steel", how does she think they make the steel? Using lava like it's a cartoon?
Aliens invented steel in the pyramids.
@@MamadNobari
Youre crazy man. Obviously the pyramids invented aliens in the steel.
I personally didn't know anything about Rosie O'Donnell but fire can burn ar different temperatures, untill a certain temp melting point steel won't melt. Just saying..
@@snailtrails4988yeah but it can weaken and bend
Yes and no. Fire is not a set temperature, and the temp of jet fuel fire is less than what is needed to do anything to steel. But what made it possible is the wind tunnel created by the hole in the building, and the building itself creating an oven. This is debatable because we can’t really test it at all. The footage we have is rough, and the scenerio is too complex to recreate at any scale. So we’re kinda just forced to take it or leave it that these conditions were just right to raise the temp enough to melt them
Here before the CIA takes it down.
And if it doesn't then that means this channel is a CIA psyop
Make backups of the video. We can't lose this gem.
CIA? U mean mossad? Then yes.
They didn’t talk about the dancing Juws did they
@@nothanks9503I heard you got immediately banned for that comment
For all the deep dives he does into esoteric topics, it’s shocking how little wendigoon knows about 9/11
I thought the punchline of the opening was that it was Seth McFarlane
Yeah he did mention he was supposed to be on the plane
9/11 will always hold importance to me and my family. My grandfather was, among many other things, a pastor, who happened to be the Chaplin for the NYFD at the time. He was at ground zero. Aside from assisting in rescuing those who were trapped, he would pray with the victim's families and survivors. Whilst doing so, he took his respirator off in order to speak clearly. As a result he breathed in a ton of that white-grey dust you see in the footage. He died under 5 years later from complications due to lung cancer. Autopsy revealed that the powder had coated his lungs. I was 4 when he died.
Still made many good memories in even that brief time. Regardless of who actually pulled the trigger, innocent people needlessly died.
Even 23 years later, the families of those lost still miss the presence of their loved ones. Let us never forget the lives lost in the attack, and in the years following. ❤
Addendum: I hate that I have to actually put this here, but the actions taken by the US in the middle east after 9/11 are abhorrent to put it mildly. We should never let the US government or the people forget how we spilled the blood of countless innocents on the sand. Let us never forget, so it won't happen ever again.
❤❤❤
your grandpa was an amazing person. i'm glad you got to have good memories with him.
All true but don’t forget while 9/11 is a unique event in America it is not unique as an action America partakes in. Terrorism in other countries and reducing them to rubble is a favorite American pastime and we all went up in arms when GASP retaliation!?!? Finally happened. Don’t forget the lives lost in the attack and don’t forget the countless more lives lost in America’s invasion of Iraq and a history of decimating the Middle East and other “enemies”.
@@Nightmare-pj4fgcringe
@@Nightmare-pj4fgok bud, time to take your meds
The Official Fed Podcast
At 11:04 wendigooner start by deciding what he's gonna believe or not a-priori....and that's how he ends up believing it was negligence, even tho the negligent people all got promoted afterwards lmao
I never would have thought to have Oompa as Charlie's replacement, but now that I've seen it he feels like a perfect choice
Why is the Charlie guy gone?
@@VeeTaperTemplar He left the podcast because he wanted to have less projects on his plate iirc
My mom worked for Delta when 9/11 happened and they absolutely dodged a bullet, she still lost her job after (a lot of airline workers did) but she said she’s really glad she could tell all the people who called in that day that their families/friends were safe.
If I had a dollar for every time the 3 of you said "why would the goverment do something that makes no sense?" it becomes very apparent that none of you have ever worked for the US gov. 😂
Jesus....slogging my way through this. "No the white house doesnt have cannons on it...theres sites near by" I usually enjoy your stuff but the total lack of preparation and miss information in this episode is staggering. Do better guys, this is just trash content.
I absolutely agree, love the boys to death but this was just bad
No one cares lil bro
I'm kind of shocked there was no mention of *Rick Rescorla*, who was Director of security at the world trade center
He had tried to warn the FBI about the 1993 bomb plot in the WTC basement , He organized the evacuation of roughly 2,700 Morgan Stanley employees in the South Tower, and sang "Men of Harlech" over the intercoms as he went back up the towers to rescue more people
it would be worth a part 2 episode, or at least as a Mad Lad Video for Wendigoon
the way wendigoon shits himself at caleb saying theres a boeing instrument and theyre basically hearing a heartbeat and thats not good and the way he shuts down has me fucking dying laughing bro.
He probably doesn't want to except that weird shit happens sometimes.
You guys are missing a lot of angles to the theory side of things... Making them seem very blase
Definitely should've posted on the actual date. 😂
It would've been too soon for them to upload a heavy topic on the same day the attack happened.
They did on the Patreon
@@yourbasicninja23 years too early 😔
@@yourbasicninjatoo soon? Dawg it's been 23 years let it go
@@PanMat2000
I love that his line for going to far is just if you discuss it on the actual date lol
I like this podcast but I feel like they aren’t really digging into the conspiracies here they are just vaguely saying like “oh I heard people say there might be records in building 7”
Building 7 is what we’re supposed to forget.
Yea then people are calling me “an emotional loser” for calling them out for ignoring all of the actual evidence and pretty much just parroting the official narrative while kinda making fun of anyone for believing there’s more here than just that,
Yeah there's so much to unpack w 911 and I can't even list sources of legitimate material of where to start because the inside job debate was so long ago.
Pretty sure a plane never hit the pentagon tho frfr
@@-Mintyythis episode is a lot different than pretty much every other episode. In most episodes there’s a LOT less victims involved and it’s usually a less tense topic. Over 2,000 people died. It would be a little disrespectful to sit here and say they all died as just “acceptable losses” by the government to allow us to invade the Middle East. Can you imagine if your family were impacted by such a tragic event and then you had people constantly telling you that they weren’t actually victims of a terror attack, but instead a massive conspiracy against the American people?
There’s also very little evidence for any of the theories around 9/11. It’s one of the most well known events in modern history period, obviously there’s going to be a lot of people making shit up about it. Some of them are bound to sound plausible but that doesn’t mean there’s any substance there
Edit: I mean did you listen to the part wendigoon said about the amount of people required to keep a secret being directly linked to how believable it is? For an attack of this scale you would need THOUSANDS of people to be absolute Fort Knox’s of information. It’s been over 20 years, someone would’ve leaked SOMETHING. Someone on their deathbed revealing they knew something, a will that had it written in there, a person who went mad trying to keep it secret too long. I mean 20 years is a loooooong time.
@@-Mintyy you're aping out in the comments holy shit 🤣
very disappointed by this video due to the research because normally jackson is very thorough but this time around it felt like a surface level google search that i'd expect from another channel, the phrase "jet fuel can't melt steel beams" isn't because people think steel needs to melt to break but because of reports and pictures of "molten steel" from rescue efforts at ground zero however the plane was made of aluminum which melts at 660c and is likely the molten metal seen at ground zero, the reason people believe it was a controlled demolition isn't solely "because of how it fell" but because of video of what appears to be a thermite reaction on the higher floors, personally i believe it to be the jet fuel you see in those videos and do agree with your conclusion as i already did before this video but i highly doubt anyone will watch this and have a change of opinion in fact i think they'd feel insulted and turned away from the channel as a whole by how little research was done into the theory's before just casting them to the side as something only an idiot would believe, you can easily find the photos of the "molten steel" reported to be at ground zero same with the videos of a "thermite reaction" on the upper floors which is why i feel like the research was honestly lazy this time around
To be fair there is a LOT that they would have had to cover if they wanted to cover EVERY theory and perspective. I’m no “inside job” theorist myself but some of the evidence is certainly interesting, and I would really appreciate it if they did a part 2 for this topic.
It’s just the pressure/air escaping from the floors collapsing into each other, not explosions, and actually many people have thought it’s because of how they fell. I’ve had to explain it to many people who claim it’s because of the way they fell. The “explosions” was just another reason, or rather, it was a way to pivot when people needed to say something else because “the way it fell” was debunked over and over. Same with the steel beams thing, pictures of “molten steel” have never been proven to be that and it was just people looking for “proof” in the photos. I was almost 30 when it happened, I remember most of the arguments over the years and most have been stupid.
The official nist report even states that the jet fuel burned off in the first 20 minutes and that the fires didn't get anywhere near hot enough to weaken the beams. You can literally just go read it for yourself
they missed so much. The complete lack of debree (where are all the steel beams if they didnt melt?) the towers colapsing in 12 seconds which is baiscly a free fall without any resistance. The towers being insured against terrorist attacks a week before 9/11. The towers being financially in a bad spot and needed insanely costly maintanance work.
All the research has been kinda lazy lately, I wouldn’t be surprised if they call the pod cast off soon
Alot of shady stuff surrounding 9/11.. sad to say but if our government wasnt so sketchy it wouldnt be a question.
Listened to the red thread all day on a 20km hike then walk through the door and there’s a new episode hell yeahhhh
Oof
"don't assume malice for what can be explained with negligence" is a great way to look at things.
46:18 Caleb’s dog just licking the air lol
People always mention that the states were the most united they've ever been after the attacks but honestly, not for brown people. Anyone that looked remotely middle eastern was treated poorly. I remember the feeling of being "united" but also seeing the backlash our own citizens were getting
yeah this. nothing like a face to a threat to charge people up. same thing happened again with Asians and covid. so dumb
It's awful how people can get during times of stress, for example during and after covid, there was a large rise in brown people attacking Asian Americans, blaming them for covid
A classmate at the time was pulled out of school by her parents because of this. Such a real shame because she was one of the few kids I got along with. (We were in the second grade)
Yes I remember that too...
Yup. If you were remotely tan and an immigrant, everybody treated you like you didn't belong or that you don't deserve to be here. America will always find a reason to attack immigrants and people of color
Hello and welcome to our channel where we discuss conspiracy theories, Today we won't be exploring any of them, Instead we will tell you it 100% wasn't a conspiracy.
Thanks guys
It was Padme who said “This is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause.”
@@BustedLimbOutdoors also known as the USA Patriot act. I have used that exact line to illustrate this garbage.
How can people who have a podcast about conspiracies and cryptids believe less in these than anyone else on earth 😂
Yea this video was a huge L
Because they have experience with valid vs bogus ones. So they have a better idea of when a conspiracy is a little more out there.
I thought that would be obvious
Neutered Disney channel garbage.
Because when you get really into this stuff and actually understanding how conspiracies work, you see how much is tall tales compared to what's likely legit
@@SteelxWolfI thought it was obvious when one of the first things we did was siphon their oil supply. Isn't it weird Sadam bought himself months of time from the invasion simply by setting their own oil supply on fire? Almost like he know black gold makes the white man crazy.
I was kinda bummed that you guys didnt seem to go at it with a open mind
Can't be offending Isaiah beliefs. He thinks Muslims are dirty.
@@ChadOfAllChadshaha lol noooo
@@Alex-k8u6c Oh come on you know he does lol
@ChadOfAllChads but 10 mins in without reviewing anything they all said there's no way and that they refuse to believe any of the bigger theory's on it.
So that to me seems like they not going at it with a open mind.
And I'm not knocking them, that's up to them, but I was hoping when I read the title that they would go into this topic with teeth
@@Alex-k8u6c I honestly think they're just grifters at this point. I don't actually think or know wendi doesn't like Muslims but I do know this, they're extreme popular and well known trusted individuals...wouldn't surprise me if they got paid to do this episode and talk about how tragic it was that the evil terrorists took over a plane but then just glaze over the passport thing which was 100% relevant.
You guys just aged me in the first 5 minutes. I was a sophomore in high school. Saw it unfolding in real time.
I was in 8th grade and remember this day so vividly, I was terrified. It’s weird knowing the America before and after this day.
Building 7 held all the financial records for the dude who owned the towers. He was 4billion in debt and the insurance on the towers was like 10b
No it wasn’t. It was insured for 3.5 billion. He was paid out 4.7ish after suing for the total rebuild cost of 7 billion. He also wasn’t the sole owner, he was PART owner of a 99 year leasehold. Insurance was required and he wouldn’t have been the only recipient of the payout. And afterwards, he was still liable to pay 10 million per month in lease payments.
@@jaybee4118 typical 9/11 apologist.
speaking of conspiracy theories, I hope red thread would cover an episode about snowden and julian assange. thats true dystopian shit right there
Follow the money. Who got rich from invading Iraq
With the towers also. They were in a bad spot finacially and needed costly maintanance. THey insured the towers again terrorist attacks a week before 9/11
@@jhm8614 fact
To devils advocate the 'why would Norad be doing hijacking training during an actual hijacking', It would cause confusion within Norad and delay their response time
It’s important to know that of the 2900+ victims 40 other countries claimed people who died that day. So it wasn’t just the US that lost civilians.
Yeah.. we know. It was called the WORLD trade center. We realize. Its just that it happened inside our house, so it hits different.
I dont remember a single person saying that 100% of the people who died were american citizens.
@@karenamyx2205I mean, there’s a lot of things in the USA that are called “world” something or other yet it’s still firmly American. It didn’t have people from other countries because it was called the *world* trade centre, it was because it was a trade centre with global companies in it.
@@jaybee4118regardless, this was an attack on America, and the terrorist responsible claimed so
We all know none of these are suicidal right?
right
As non-suicidal as a kamikaze plane in WW2 👍
All they did was mock us for believing something shady happened that day. They are completely fine
The most important thing to remember about this conspiracy is that this is a tragedy, the worst one in history in terms of scale and depravity. If the government actively set it up, that makes every person involved the most dispicable scum in all of history. It shouldn’t be held with this proud demeanor that you discovered something/know the truth, if you believe it then it should be held with great sadness and bitterness. Always makes me feel like people forget that this theory is accusing people of the greatest evil when it is thrown around super casually. (I personally am on the fence, but building 7 at least is for sure CIA, and Pentagon attack is a very suspicious to me)
I still remember this day. My dad was at the Pentagon that day, in a different wing of the building. He heard the roar of the plane, and when he managed to walk out,he saw the smoke coming from the other side.
Thankful to this day that he's still here.
I was 7, me and my sister were staying with our dad who worked at a radio station. He woke us up, told my sister she wasn’t going to school (she was 10) and took us both to work where we usually sat in the corner office to watch old Flash Gordon episodes. We knew something was going on until dad was in the recording booth which was made of glass, and I looked over just in time to see the second tower get hit. I’ll never forget that moment
Guys please stop being sponsored by Hello Fresh PLEASE do some research they’re an absolute piece of shit company
29:07 is wrong. There was protocol for multiple hijackings and it was drilled numerous times prior to 9/11. The reason nobody adequately responded was all the war games exercises happening that morning that made air traffic controllers and NORAD unable to differentiate real hijackings from false hijackings.
Wow so they thought it was a test, and not real? Where did you learn this?
@@NotAnotherKuromi Although the mainstream and the military tries to downplay the significance of this blunder during the 9/11 commission (something the commission chairmen rightfully called out during the hearings), the actual audio from the FAA and NORAD shows the exercise drills were consistently impeding response efforts which is why not a single hijacked plane was intercepted during the 2 hours the country was under attack. There were as many 5 war games exercises happening that very day, and multiple exercises leading up to 9/11 in the years preceding it that involved terrorist hijacking (even some that mention Osama Bin Laden himself). So the illusion that “nobody was prepared” is frankly insulting. The country was prepared, but all of these exercises happening that day caused chaos and led to a complete failure to respond.
In fact, the military and FAA were under the impression as many as 20 planes were hijacked because of the simulated false radar inputs that were put over the live computers tracking the real flights, along with multiple other planes squawking the hijack code. Not to mention the fact the military was chasing after a “phantom Flight 11” AFTER it had already impacted the first tower because they’d gotten false information that claimed it was still in the air. A fact that the military neglected to include in their final report, which the 9/11 commission called out because the military lied and claimed they first scrambled the jets to chase Flight 77 (after Flight 11 already struck the North Tower) when instead the 9/11 commission proved the jets were actually scrambled to chase after a plane that had already crashed.
If the Redthread guys did more than a basic Wikipedia search on the very real things that caused doubt among conspiracy theorists beyond “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” (the weakest argument a 9/11 truther can make and easiest to dispute), they’d talk about this too. I’d recommend this documentary that strictly goes into the war games exercises.
I personally don’t think you have to think “9/11 was an inside job” to find the information provided in the documentary useful. I personally still think the Al Qaeda was behind 9/11, but what this information does show is that Al Qaeda’s plan was far more complicated and had infiltrated our national security agencies far worse than our government would ever want us to know. Which I personally believe is a far more rational explanation than “9/11 was an inside job”. But if the Redthread are going to discuss the 9/11 conspiracy theories, they should probably actually look into it first and tackle to actual tangible evidence rather than the low hanging fruit conspiracies that are nonsense. 😊
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@@NotAnotherKuromi no offense to the Redthread guys, but they really dropped the ball on research for this episode. It almost reads like a generic Wikipedia article rather than actual research. There is so much information they missed and got wrong that it isn’t going to debunk any conspiracy theorists.
I personally do not believe 9/11 was an inside job, but I do at least know what the best evidence is that is actually indisputable and worthy of tackling. All the Redthread guys did was go for the low hanging fruit that is easily debatable (like jet fuel can’t melt steel beams). There’s a lot more interesting conspiracy theory information out there than the Redthread even attempted to tackle.
Here is a documentary about the war games exercises.
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@@Tiberius_Productions dude I know it’s pathetic
Sorry, but most of the theories I’m seeing repeating in the comments are so silly. I can only assume they left them out because they’re so bad.
Caleb is such an entertaining guest! You should have him on more often
Would love it if these podcasts refocused back on the actual conspiracies. Everyone here knows how real life 9/11 went down, we're here for funny/ interesting takes and theories, not just a retelling of it with the ocassional theory. Should just point us to an explainer video in the discription for anyone who hasn't heard the full, original narrative, and have the podcast focus on the wacky shit. Like just start the video with a "click on the link to learn everything you need to know", and it can even be a video from one of the hosts if they've done one.
my grandfather was also on a plane during 9/11. he was flying from guyana to see some friends in the united states but his plane was turned back around after the attacks. my dad was really confused when he got a call from his father saying to pick him back up at the airport.
Can you guys bring Caleb back on as a guest for another episode? He adds so much to the dynamic, thanks boys.
Why is Caleb's George W. Bush impression so goood?
Alternate opening monologue: You wake up, your night stand alarm blaring. Your head pounds, a consequence of your late night out drinking. You check your watch, “Shit! I’m late!” You yell as you jump out of bed and toss whatever clothes you can grab the fastest on and running out the door of your hotel room. You run out the door of the hotel and hail a cab. You inform the driver that you’re late for your flight and that he needs to hurry. “Sorry buddy” the cab driver says with a chuckle “Traffic is awful today. Sounds like you’re gonna have to reschedule that flight.” You tilt your head back and groan. Sure enough, when you do finally reach the airport, your plane had departed an hour ago. You sit in a chair of the terminal, making a phone call to inform your boss that you’re gonna have to miss out on that meeting when all of a sudden people start panicking and crowding around the televisions in the airport, to which you join them. On the tv you see that a plane had hit one of the twin towers. You think to yourself, “Good lord, how did that happen?” And as you thought that, the camera showed another plane, hitting the other tower. “Oh my God…” you mutter as you fall back in your seat, “That was my flight.”. As the relief, and anger, and sadness fills your mind, one statement remains the same. “Hehehehehehehehe, this is like the time I almost died on 9/11” You are Seth MacFarlane.
That’s what I thought he was doing at first
babe wake up red thread holiday special just dropped
It’s so nice not having Charlie here killing the vibe acting interested but also dismissive of every subject at the same time.
The thing about Nostradamus that I heard and basically think when I hear that name is “if you say enough random shit eventually it’s gonna be the truth”
Quasimodo predicted all of this, you know…
I'm 35 and I can tell you the political parties weren't nearly as divided even before the attack. Afterwards there were American flags EVERYWHERE and all the people just seemed to start being much nicer and more connected to each other. People were also pissed and wanted justice.....the racism thing started to die down in the conversations and as tragic as it was it really was an amazing time in America live through. I hate that a tragedy was what united us
a united USA huh. sounds nice
No no that’s what they kept telling you most of that is not true
@@soullessone9905Yeah problem is American have very short memories
@@soullessone9905 that's over
@nothanks9503 I'm telling you what I saw and felt in my community. Trust me I understand the other motives
You should do an episode about the Smolensk air disaster where the most influential people of the Polish government died. It's the most comparable thing to 9/11 in Poland, at least in a notoriety sense, and there are a lot of theories of Russia being behind it but I'm not sure how many are available in English.
Only a few minutes in, so idk if yall will end up covering it, but there are a TON of supposed "coincidences" that are quite dubious, such as a multi million dollar insurance policy being taken out literally one day beforehand, as well as all or most of the security staff (allegedly) being directed to not come in to work on the day of the attack
But does that prove that it was an inside job? It isn't irrefutable evidence
You guys should cover the Sampoong Department Store collapse. It’s a very harrowing story of corruption, cutting corners, negligence, and the heart of a community trying to find those who were lost.
No Dancing Israelis?
I’m willing to bet not one mention of the Jewish links will be mentioned
@@Cam12369 I'll save you two hours.
@@KarenTookTheKids364 thank you sir
@@KarenTookTheKids364 the fact that they even did this video without mentioning the Israeli connections is insane. They obviously know who butters their bread
I hate to say it. But this was extremely disappointing.
This was just a silly job at gathering up and summerising the fact that the US might be in on the 9/11 attack themselves.
This almost felt like a parody of that very worrying potential fact. You skipped over and just brushed aside the really worrying details to the issue.
You just touched on it but then said "But that is the most I am willing to admit."
But that is the issue. The things you hint on that a secret group of people would have done in the background that lead to, guided and help in the the attack itself is the inside job! That IS the INSIDE JOB!
Because the US government desperatly wanted the war to happen but didn't have a supported or rightious excuse for a full scale invasion of the middle East. But after they were attacked they suddenly had the entire western world's support to do anything and everything they wanted.
It isn't a question if it happened the way it did or if the terrorists did the attack.
The serious question is why did it happen, why wasn't it prevented and did the US guide and aid the terrorists in the attack in order to do what the US did after the attack.
You didn't mention the history of the US activities in the middle east or everything the US government did almost instantly after the attack.
Or the declassified insider interviews from personal at the pentagon and the Whitehouse leading up to the NATO summits and ongoing invasion.
That all make the best case for why it most likely was a inside job of some very, very evil people within the Bush administration.
Fuck the demolition argument, the jet fuel argument, placed actors and all the other honestly stupid arguments. They are clearly wrong and stupid.
Honestly, this was a video I thought would be serious and interesting. But you dropped the ball on this one.
You were close though, you talked about the real issue breifly at times, before brushing it off like it is nothing.
Because, if all that happened in the terror attack, the war and everything America did in the middle East was done by a few evil monsters within the US government itself. That should be taken extremly serious and should not be laughed of or dismissed like it isn't a big deal really.
It isn't just about America or 9/11 it is far bigger than that.
Yeah, you only hate it because they don’t come to your conclusion. The one where you dismiss all evidence.
@@jaybee4118 No, Everything I said and point to is fact. You can google all of it and watch it for yourself. Maybe you were to young to remember or even lived it all.
I did.
I saw all of it from the beginning. There is no bias in fact and the real events that happened.
Not all arguments are based on bias and personal opinion, man.
Based, very well said
Spot on.
lets dance!
I’m obviously older than most of your audience, I was 21 at the time and it was and still is the scariest, saddest day of my life. Living through it and the weeks after… you can’t forget. 😢 I hope our government had nothing to do with this.
I was 15 at the time.
I’ve had scarier days I was subjected to by the US government tbh
Honestly after the vegas shootings and covid I wonder why 9/11 is the only one people say never forget about. Thrre are so many tragedies.
@@kawaii33366there are tragedies but the reason people say not to forget when it comes to 9/11 over other tragedies is because those tragedies focused on people at an event or certain location. 9/11 was an attack on an entire country that rippled throughout the world. The US was and is a superpower so in the rest of the world’s eyes, if America could be attacked in that manner than so could the entire rest of the world. Just like Pearl Harbor was a day that would live in infamy, people say never forget when it comes to 9/11 just based on the sheer scale of how devastating it was to an entire nation and the rest of the world.
@turtle_chele evrry single school has had a shooter threat at some point but we're immediately just told "it is what it is."
Idk maybe im jaded but im tired of remembering a tragedy that rich politicans got money off while kids are dying everyyear and no one cares.
But i understand. Even if not many were killed it was a symbol and did change how things ran..
I still think we're allowed to joke about it tho.
People profited off of it before it happened by shorting stocks so...someone here knew it was gonna happen before it did so. ...
September is the most bearish month for the markets. It's not that suspicious that people would load up on short positions as a result.
Why is everyone so confident they understand the stock market, when they clearly don’t?
@SirAutismo i dont think you understand what exactly happened. People were shorting airliners dude..... 😂 meaning they somehow predicted flight travel was going to take a historically bad hit! Weeks in advance
@leonscott543 Once again, the markets as a whole drop in September, which includes airlines. Think as a swing trader at the time. Summer is ending, meaning people are done with vacation and going back to work or school as we are hitting the most bearish time of the year. It only makes sense to short the market nearing the top like that.
I was a sophomore in College when this happened and it's something I will never forget. I had got the flu really bad and was in bed sleeping. My roommate had partied all night and was still awake from the night before. He comes busting in the room yelling "duuuude America is being bombed or something in New York. I wrap up in a blanket and sit down on the couch to watch the breaking news. There was a burning hole in one of the towers. When I say no one had a clue what was going on yet...I mean zero. People were wondering if there was a gas explosion or something. As the camera is fixed on it off side of the picture another plane comes in and slams into the other tower maybe 7 or 8 minutes from when I sat down. We both scream....HOLY SHIT WAS THAT A PLANE!!!! Like we had no idea the first hole was from a plane. My roommates parents called and told him to drive home. I sat there in complete horror as people started to jump. About an hour later the buildings started to come down. The devastating feeling watching this live was almost too much to comprehend. I'm 42 years old now and I can remember that day like it was yesterday. RIP everyone that was lost that day.
It was nothing compared to 9/11 obviously but a few years ago we have a skyscraper go up in flames in London. We all watched on live TV and I remember how sick I felt thinking about everyone inside the building. Watching it LIVE was really something else. There was nothing gory on the screen but it felt like you were watching liveleak 😭
@bondickle ya man that sounds traumatic. Things like that stick with you so deeply. Like scars into you brain when you see something like that.
Isaiah is in too deep. The rescue workers dont need to know. It all happenee how we think it did, but it wasnt for the reasons we think
Yea it was kind of disappointing and annoying for him to say shit like that when he covers the topics he does, why the fuck would rescue workers need to know anything? So ignorant
@@-Mintyy they got to him
@@Welshman336 Even more to me as a fellow Christian. We are to, As Scripture says, have no association with the unfruitful workers of darkness but expose them. Not very exposing of Isaiah when he damn well knows better, wouldn't you say?
Scripture also tells Us that no man may serve two masters. I think Isaiah is getting a little too much of the UA-cam dollars and is desperately trying to serve two masters.
It's really disappointing.
@voiceofreason1208 I'm not a practicing Christian but I follow sometimes and yeah its interesting he used to have that Bible study type videos and now he never speaks on it.
@@voiceofreason1208 💀💀💀💀💀💀
Surprising amount of official narrative in this video
people look at me like im crazy when i tell them im an adult who was born after 9/11 😭😭
Disagree with me or not.. The story of 9/11 makes no sense, there is far too many problems for the official story to be right. Look let's just find the photos' of the jet engine that shot out the side of the building and landed on the ground. Have a true 3rd party expert of jet engines say if that was the engine that was supposed to be on an american airlines 767. If the answer is no, then 9/11 should be investigated by a 3rd party and their findings should be taken seriously.
There's a couple videos showing a passenger plane flying into the first tower. Then countless of the second. Where did those flights go if they didn't crash into the world trade center? And if it weren't those planes then which planes were they?
@@BobectorGamesBobector It doesn't matter if the jet engine was wrong, there should have been an investigation.
On a personal opinion, they were drone piloted military issue 767's. There was 5 experimental planes given to the military to test autopilot refueling in the late 90's. The planes could be remote piloted or auto piloted and could fly for hours and auto link up to refuel. Have a look at the flight paths of the 2 airplanes that went to new york, they both turn off their transponders fly over an air force base and immediately turn around and head back. I'll let your imagination take over from there. Google operation northwoods sometime.
I was 9yo and in the Netherlands when it happened. The sitter was there, my parents called, she put on the tv and we saw it happen. Im not sure it was live, but might well have been. After the second plane everyone pannicked, my parents went home straight away. I will never forget that day. Im glad you guys were still a bit younger back then.
New Zealander here!
There really isn't any need to look into my country's involvement with 9/11 any further. Trust. You will NOT find anything. Period. Please.
I would like to continue to see more Red Thread episodes in the future!
'Conspiracy Theory' needs a rebranding.
I think we should ALL, so it spreads fast and wide, call old, basically unbelievably or completely unprovable things like hollow earth, that we landed on the moon "Conspiracy Theories".
Things like JFK, Cuba, Vietnam should be called......
Ummm...
'Hypothetical Truths'
If you have a better name, go for it.
@@Justin-ShalaJC Well, I don't subscribe to any side of the flat Earth or hollow Earth arguments, but they're completely provable. We just need to charter a plane or a ship and go there ourselves, right?
As for the terminology, some people use the term coincidence theorist, because there is at happens to be a whole bunch of nearly impossible coincidences surrounding many of these events.
8:45 Kitty History, Trevor Moore. Rip.
Exactly like ours!
12:45 - Taking out super specific insurance policies immediately before this massive thing happened is not coincidence Jackson.
I believe Israel and the United state's orchestrated the whole thing to justify U.S theft of oil from the middle east and Israel to basically kill whoever they want and just say they're terrorists.
@@ChadOfAllChadsPrecisely! Look into the Durban Conference on 9/8/2001
Bro, i understand not wanting to willingly put a possible target on yourself or draw unwanted attention to yourself, but for anyone that has “actually” done even just a decent amount of unbiased research on the topic and the FACTS thereof, to say they still believe that our own govt. had no roll in 9/11, is astonishing….to put it VERY nicely lol…i mean the fact that they were claiming on the same day that it was Bin Laden and that he had personally taken full credit for it (which he NEVER did), yet they flew his family OUT of the country in the days thereafter, while NO other commercial flights were allowed anywhere in the US…should speak volumes to any honest human with even a touch of common sense…
Way too much fishy smelling evidence for anything else to be the most reasonable explanation. It absolutely was an inside job. The firefighters pretty much started the idea too cause they heard sequencual explosions just as the building came down. Used to be videos of that too on UA-cam. Taken down years ago.
Bin Laden did take credit for 9/11. Not immediately but he did a few years after.
Until you delve deeper and see the conspiracies don’t make any sense. The government had a roll in creating the hatred in other countries, but not in felling the twin towers. It makes literally no sense if only because the massive amount of people that would have had to have been involved. That’s the ultimate way of creating a failure. Something that big, happening in the age of the internet, it would have been exposed by now. People are always the biggest crutch, and this would have involved hundreds.
@@Rembo318 Shills making too much money
its crazy how like EVERYONE has a 9/11 story no matter how old you are you have a connection somehow
I was a sophomore in HS in Western NY. Saw the initial reports on the internet in computer lab. They eventually made an announcement and released early. Went home and watched the news coverage.
It felt completely surreal at the time.
45:06 Wendigoon describing himself- “It’s spicy, it’s sexy. It changes history. It makes things interesting”
My main issues (so far) with this is that the building contractors and many other architects/builders voiced their clear opposition to the fact the buildings could have fallen that way, almost NONE of them agreed that it was in any way possible for them to fall the way they did, also they fact that all of the steal was taken out of the site and “disappeared” with no one knowing where it went or why it was allowed to be removed before an investigation was done, as well as the molten piles of smelt weeks after the destruction. Idk what happened and I don’t believe in a full on inside job as that’s going to far but something is there. Also some of those that committed the attack were being tracked by the CIA/FBI for months before the attack and about a week or two before the attack they suddenly dismissed the agents keeping tally of their actions and let them move freely. There’s just to many things that don’t add up for me to believe it was completely organic.
Watch videos of the NYC fire chief talking about it. The chief fully believes it was a FF and even says his department and the police department believe it was as well. He opened an investigation, which is still on going btw, and his family was threatened. Also the Saudi royals were in DC that day and for some reason got a military escort back to Arabia. You cant forget about Rumsfeld “2 TRILLION missing” either and how 2 trillion is what the companies were paid to rebuild.
Watch videos of the NYC fire chief talking about it. The chief fully believes it was a FF and even says his department and the police department believe it was as well. He opened an investigation, which is still on going btw, and his family was threatened. Also the Saudi royals were in DC that day and for some reason got a military escort back to Arabia. You cant forget about Rumsfeld “2 TRILLION missing” either and how 2 trillion is what the companies were paid to rebuild.
Except hundreds have said it would collapse that way. Just because you’ve seen “almost none” doesn’t mean it’s almost none.
If you don’t know how to spell “steel” correctly I don’t think you are anyone to trust with these lame half brained theories
@@jaybee4118 in extremely biased cases you must dismiss that evidence, so any evidence heavily pushed by/funded by the government must be dismissed. Beyond that the number of experts who fully believe the official narrative is low (not 0 like the other guy said). Just because low != zero doesn’t mean you should dismiss his entire point outright, that is a very low IQ tactic to nitpick and then dismiss an entire point based on that alone, without refuting the base claim that many experts do disagree and that is cause for much concern.
There’s a documentary that took place a few days before and on the day of 9/11. It was made by two French brothers who were doing a documentary about a FDNY station that wasn’t too far from the Trade Center. The brothers were happened to have recorded the footage of the first plane hitting the north tower and the pandemonium and confusion afterwards. They were separated in the chaos and both thought that the other had passed but they reunited at the station with the other fire fighters.
It’s such an eerie and heartbreaking film and the camera they used is now in the 9/11 museum which I highly recommend anyone to go and visit if in the NYC area.
I just watched that one yesterday! It's incredible.