[REPLAY] Amos Miller - What is REAL Food Freedom? How Do We Protect It? | Joel Salatin & John Moody
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2021
- With case after cased of farm, homestead, and food freedom law issues, it might leave you wondering, what exactly IS food freedom? How do we protect our rights as Americans, farmers, and homesteaders when it comes to our property and farm business? What's constitutional and what's not constitutional? In this candid live chat, Joel Salatin and John Moody join us to talk about it ALL.
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This may be a couple of years old but it is still superb. Thank you so much Amy, John, and Joel.
I agree
Constitutionally, they must have a warrant, issued by oath or affirmation. If they don't, you don't have to let them take anything. If you are contracted with them through one of their *programs ", you are subject to them. If you operate privately, as in a private membership association, they don't have authority to get involved unless a crime is committed. Imagine if you had a large group of homesteaders that were educated in how the law actually works. The state constitutions are where we find the greatest details and most don't read them. Great show!
This is why I want nothing to do with government grants for farming, solar panels or any “incentive” program that the government offers. No thanks.
So much great information! This food revolution definitely has legs! Once we cross this impending line on freedom of choice within what we have to put in our body for our " own safety" the next thing on thier list will be a war on food freedom ...after all we should trust " them" Fully to tell us what's best for our health.
That is such a true statement. It’s scary where our world is headed. That’s why we started homesteading in the first place!
This was so excellent in so many ways; I'm too tired and lazy to elaborate. I did share it though on The Twatter.
Thank you so much. You have informed me , encouraged me , also helped me know as a Christian how to think about when and how to stand up in this evil day.
Wow. Powerful stuff. So much of it I didn’t know. The thought that keeps popping into my mind is according to HUD (current law on the books) each one of us has the right to use and enjoy our property and now I come to find out we don’t have the right to choose the food that goes into our bodies? How twisted is that? How about there being no provision to inform the consumer about how meat is treated in order to be approved by the USDA - and sold to me and my family? I had absolutely no idea the chicken we consume has been dipped in chlorine 3 times. None whatsoever. I’m 64 going on 65. That is just plain criminal.
Okay, off to watch the rest of it.
Very insightful.. God, man, society and govt.. best comment "farmers sell dirty foods"🤣🤣
Listening later but what a wonderful video. Thanks to all contributing. Such a blessing, and encouragement!
EVERYONE needs to watch this & comprehend just what freedom of choice is in our food system ...great share , education is KEY !
Thank you for this interview. It was clear, concise and provocative. I particularly enjoyed the last 5 minutes and hope to hear some further interviews that dig deeper into these matters. We need to be better at communicating the why of it all, as well as the how.
🙋🏼♀️🕊. I am not a farmer . But enjoy fresh food from a farm.. this was very interesting to watch, I support the Pirma culture farmers.& their families 🍀🕊🍀🕊🍀🕊
The only HOA I agree with. Great video!
Please, please, have an HOA conference and Rogue Food conference in Texas! This is a great interview!! Thank you Amy, Joel and John, keep up the great work!
Yes, please!
Kansas is in the middle of the 48.
Thank you for the info! Great stuff. Some of us in my area are fighting off wind turbines and you had three great statements that resonated with how we should approach this scam.
I loved this very interesting discussion! Watch the entire thing! Could have listened another hour! Please do this again.
As they have done now by crippling our food system. 4/2023 when I write this they have done exactly that .
Total independence I measure by my use of currency. The more currency I use the more of a slave to the systems I am. The more we can achieve through barter the more freedom we experience. In the event of complete economic collapse the wheel barrow full of cash the wheel barrow will be more valuable then the cash it is filled with.
Interesting conversation, the government does what it does and if it budges it will give just enough to shut people up but still not completely resolve the issue. We've seen this happen over and over not just in food industry. Good luck, I hope you succeed.
Great interview. I would buy any product from Joel with no hesitation. I am sad to say I am reluctant to do that for all farmers and processing plants. I have personally seen animals who shouldn't be processed get processed. Some kind of safeguard has to be there. Maybe these two and others can come up with a better solution.
49:00 minutes of the video: I say this all the time that governments don't make food any safer. Who hasn't gotten sick eating at a restaurant that the health inspector's been to? You can't sue the restaurant for getting sick, you can't sue the government or their inspector. It's just a waste of time and taxpayers money. What I can do is let be known I got sick at that restaurant and the restaurant does something about it or they will go out of business. In some cases the government will shut down a restaurant or bakery until they clean up their act.
Well the food is literally poison....you can't trace your cancer back to a specific restaurant or grocery story but thats a very likely source.
Well spent time, it's fascinating how much crap we agree to take because of ignorance and propaganda, if people just resist passively we would be in a much better place
Very interesting, learned a lot just listening to this!
We did as well! We just love this organization! Do you have a homestead as well?
@@OurFruitfulFamily Starting one from scratch. Got a long ways to go.
@@JamieE76 well then, you should check some of our videos out hahaha! We started from scratch as well about a year ago now. Garden, milk cows, sheep etc… we could learn from each other!
Yes live
Moses parents did not comply. Talking about them is so different than standing face to face.
Thank you it does take courage.
#speakingfromexperience
This was an incredible interview!
But very frustrating with the many ads.
Hello from New Hampshire Hello Joel I have watched a great deal of you on Justin Rhodes I have learned so much thank you
just found this! great talk :) thank you
People’s lack of caring for food freedom, I believe is due to the fact that they have no idea where their food comes from, what has happened to that food from the farm to the grocery store. We as a society have become lazy, it’s so much easier to run to the store to get whatever they want. Their laziness also comes from having the perception that governments is looking after our best interests and they 100% put faith that their food is as healthy (or more so) as that grown on a grassroots farm.
Phenomenal. Thank you!
SO good! Thanks to all of you! 😊
Great great stuff thank you all
Small farmers take better care of their animals because they are depending on the animals for their own food and income also. USDA ran all the local slaughter houses out of business. Congress must have stock in large production plants.
Thank you 3 for this stream! It is very helpful information.
Video quality is great!
holy cow, who knew... wow, so eye opening.
Thank you for doing this I had to watch the taped part but was extremely interested and think it very timely with this administration.
Keep up the good work and God bless you all
Thank you so much! This was excellent! Could you list some of the resources both John and Joel mentioned, I wasn't able to catch all of them.
We'll try to go back and make a list!
Wonderful! Great topic, that all of us need to hear and know
I understand the need to inspect and regulate the consolidated, centralized food system, they need oversight. BUT, ALL regulations should simply have one phrase added "Purchases made directly from the producer are exempt."
Well said
Excellent information! Specific things we can incorporate. We need to pray about these changes coming to fruition!
I'm in my early 50s and I've just started learning about this subject in the last couple years. I feel so ignorant! So many of the things I was taught in school or seen on TV are just plain wrong. My mom and dad grew up on raw milk. My dad helped butcher chickens on the farm. My husband milked cows and butchered chickens, too. They all lived!!!🤦♀️
This was so good. Thank you all so much!
Great conversation. Thanks for making the time!
Joel, I think that protecting the public from bad actors regarding raw milk was and is the right thing to do.
I believe that times have changed and the times we live in need to be acknowledged. Due to social media and the over abundance of tort law lawyers, no milk seller will be able to hawk poorly handled raw milk very long before they would be forced to stop, due to the immediate response of social media. Furthermore, it wouldn’t take a very large operation to make it worth the while of an injured party to seek damages.
I believe that removing the restrictions regarding the sale of raw milk, meat that is not federally inspected, and other unregulated farm products, puts the seller at more risk than the purchaser.
People don’t normally die from food poisoning, they get a stomachache. On the other hand, the seller of any such bad products would face an immediate loss of income. They might even be ruined, just from one mistake.
Because of the times we live in, it’s safe to say the government can back off, now, on certain things. Don’t you agree?
Joel I had no Idea that it's come to this.
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Thank you
Can you tell me the whole name of the person Joel referred to as Criss Anne?
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AB, you got it!
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Constitution - Amendments 9 and Article 10, especially 9.
Amendment 9
- Other Rights Kept by the People
The enumeration in the Constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.
Amendment 10
- Undelegated Powers Kept by the States and the People
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
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WOW X 1,000,000
How can I comment on the live chat? Thanks in advance
Oh just figured out this was a old one. My bad
We use carbon sequestering biological insect controllers (chickens), and invasive weed removal carbon recycling machines (goats), and earth friendly non emission net zero carbon lawn mowers (rabbits in tractors) on our property.
Now you got me thinking. Isn’t that what podcasts and comments should do? Thx. Think.
Profound question asked, why are people so pro gun freedom and not pro food freedom. My answer, because we don't know we don't have food freedom! This is literally the first time I've heard any of this! I have grown up in town. (Though it was a primarily agricultural community) I've always eaten grocery store food because that's what's been available. And always thought that was my choice. And it was. But I'm horrified at the idea that if I were to change my mind and want to do things differently, or rather, eat things differently, the idea that what I'm eating isn't actually that good, and that I don't have a choice, is horrifying.
So step 1. EDUCATION
STEP 2: EDUCATION
Thanks for sharing this information with us ignorant of what's actually going on.
more laws that add more costs to operate a small farm. which means less profit . more work.
Can someone explain the coalition between food freedom and farm welfare. Everyone wants freedom but are willing to accept government welfare. There are many small business owners that would love to get the compensation welfare that the farmers get. Where's their freedom?
Did you pass through Houma Thibodaux parish church when you were younger
I just heard his farm was raided the other day. I’m interested to know if its fear mongering
IT'S LIKE THE SAME THING AS THE JUDGE TELING GRANDPARENTS THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS IN COURT SYSTEM OF TODAY TO PROTECT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN!!! AND THE JUDGE IS NOT HELD RESPONSIBLE WHEN THAT CHILD DIES IN ADOPTION AND FOSTER ABUSE...
Wow this was 10mo ago you basically predicted the attack on a cattle farm
Hey
States today are simply franchises of the Federal Government Corporation, aka they’re the same. State of Georgia is a corporation, Georgia State is a geographical boundary. Citizens are basically employees of the government corporation. There are people and People…there is a difference. Person = corporation according to the federal code. U.S. is not the United States of America. U.S. is a corporation. You give away your inalienable when you sign contracts with the government corporation…such as drivers license, voting registration, social security card…etc. You give your rights away for benefits and privileges of the corporation. Joel is correct the constitution is a contract between the States and Federal government. What makes up the State? The people not citizens..people not persons…words have meanings, most much differently than you think.
How can raw milk be better that homogenized whole milk? Homogenizing milk suspends the fat throughout the milk. That’s why whole milk is so delicious, right? Doesn’t most of the fat in raw milk float to the top? If most all the butter fat separates from the milk, doesn’t the majority of the milk taste like skim milk? I don’t like skim milk. I would just as soon drink water as to pour up a glass of skim milk.
That is your choice. The point is that people that prefer raw milk don’t get a choice.
@@Horsewithnoname88 I wasn’t advocating that people stop drinking raw milk. On the contrary, I believe people should have the right to purchase raw milk from anyone they choose. I said what I said hoping someone would share with me ideas on how they make the milk underneath the cream taste better. That’s all. Thanks.
@@tobyihli9470 Sorry about that Toby I misunderstood you. My bad.
I think you are confusing homogenized with pasteurized. The government wants all milk pasteurized. I grew up on raw milk. Wish I could buy raw milk where I live. State has outlawed it. Commercial milk producers unfortunately have political power in my state.
Whole milk from the grocery store has been skimmed, but to a lesser degree than "skim milk". Grocery store milk is typically about 3-4% cream, I think. Unless you use a cream separator, there will be a certain amount of cream suspended throughout the un-homogenized milk, with a higher concentration of cream at the top. Heavy cream at the top, half-and-half below that, and what basically amounts to what we typically think of as whole milk at the bottom.
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What on Earth have gods got to do with farming? The food freedom topic is fascinating, but the discussion sounds really backwards when religion is brought in.
Because Amos Miller is a mennonite (Christian), some of his stances needed to be talked about through the lens of Christianity. And because many in the homesteading community is also of the same faith, and it's a question we kept getting over and over again before the interview by hundreds in our community.
@@HomesteadersofAmerica Understood. The US is truly bizarre in this respect. The discussion was great by the way.
@@jasoncsking Actually, our very Christian roots came from Europe..spring garden plots are still blessed in many towns. God is the creator.
Sometimes it feels like organized religion and government are two sides of the same coin and sometimes it feels like they are in the same side of the same coin. In the second instance it is at the expense of diversity, a centralization of belief imposed on others in the interest of exercising power and control of the diverse collection of individuals. Personally I will only join a loose confederation of individuals who exercise that individuality as a lifestyle, never a powerful entity who exercises those powers for self perpetuation. (Read “greed and control”.)
In answer to your question, my belief is Mother Nature has a heck of a lot more to do with plants coming up out of the ground than “god” does. I don’t mind others who believe differently. I do mind when they don’t return the favor. Peace brother.
Well God created mother earth....our entire legal system is based on the bible, the idea you have any rights at all starts with the idea you have a creator that is higher than man. The thing is you don't have to believe what other people believe, for their beliefs to affect you. So i don't see any harm in learning about the religion side of the discussion.
Too many ads.
You have way too many commercials
Hello missed the live so watching it on replay. Everyone have an awesome day lisa@moneypit homestead
I know the discussion is about personal choice but Mr. Moody stated he has 6 kids, and obviously he has a right to have as many as he wants, but he states he wants to make a change, having one or two kids would be a start in the right direction. Nobody ever talks about reducing the population of the world. Many of our problems would solve themselves if we had half as many people.
Sorry, I don't think people know about this.
Oh wow, Joel, maybe your friend shouldn’t have said that the Constitution was a piece of toilet paper? I know he feels like it’s not protecting him, but only in regards freedom to sell unregulated food, right? He should have add that, “in regards to our freedom to produce and sell farm products without government regulations,” yes?
Made me uncomfortable too.
The Constitution protects a diversity of views and religions.
Food security and permiculture would be advanced more effectively if people would not attach their politics and religion.
I read the entire constitution last night - it's pretty pathetic. What's even more pathetic is the courts upholding the few rights the constitution sort of protects. 16th amendment, they can tax income from any source, then you look into cases where people tried to use the constitution to protect their religious beliefs not to fund war, guess what the courts call their claims "frivilous, not worthy of discussion" - any right the constiution claims to protect can easily be done away with by the "greater good" argument.
Yall talk as if you are free. Sadly you are not. These politicians aloud you to talk.
Theres to many rules in US. Thats why more people are leaving and going overseas. You guys are wasting your time. Asia has the right to grow their own food and you guys are still taking about that lol