Very high attention to details of mobo components. This is what a motherboard review should be. Talking about hidden ram traces, power phases, etc. Great video!
@@TechnologyHive especially since AMD just extended their support for AM5 at computex until at least 2027 (I believe their original plan was 2025) Edit: thank you for the video, it had good pacing and was very informative. Gonna pick this board up for my next build in a month or so
was thinking about msi b650 gaming plus wifi, but im glad i didnt order. This is a very nice review, this is for sure going on my list. Thank you for so much detail and explaining. Subbed & Liked.
Nice review and impressive motherboard that I will definitely consider when upgrading :-) I gotta say MSI have totally impressed me with their recent Intel boards from 11th gen and up. They are just so solid and trouble free. Especially with 12th gen where some of those CPU's need plenty of power. It's all about the VRM's right? Currently watching this vid on a system with an MSI B660 Pro A. I upgraded to a 13500 and it handled it beautifully. Always good to think of the future and get a great motherboard from the start. Something that will take newer and more powerful CPU's.
The VRM is the most important part of a motherboard if you want to future proof your purchase, yes. MSI is a good brand. They definitely did not cheap out with this motherboard here 🙂.
Insanely random question but did your box have any security tape required to cut to open the box. Bought the same motherboard from Best Buy and there was no tape and I was just able to open the box. Just making sure I didn’t get a used one.
No no, that is a good question because I do wonder myself sometimes. The answer is no. There was no security tape or sticker outside the box. However, there was a security sticker to open the anti-static bag.
Just opened my box. And that was my first thought... "no tapes... is this motherboard actually untouched after factory or did they send me a dirty one?".. and that's how I happened to see this review :D
@@larsjrgensen9261 LOL funny stuff. But what I have started to see more and more is that manufacturers are not using tape as much on things. Or PCI-e slot covers on GPU's, trying to save money everywhere they can I guess.
Hey man, great review! Few questions, how's the boot time? I know that everyone says the AM5 platform has slow boot times, but has it gotten any better? Also, would you reccommend overclocking the RAM to lower it's latency? Thanks!
@@jeraldjoshuaechavia1108 mine worked right out of the box with my 7800X3D. But you can always use the bios flashback feature to update the bios without a cpu.
@TechnologyHive so what do you recommend? Use flashbash feature to update the bios without a cpu right away? Or just try to boot it with cpu on to test if it is already compatible?
Its a good motherboard, but I do think the two CPU power connectors are gimmicky. The AM5 socket is only rated for 230w max? One connector alone exceeds the theoretical max.
One connector can deliver around 400w lol. Two connectors are just for looks really, unless you're doing extreme overclocking, at which point clean power delivery is important, and the use of the second connector can be handy.
Sorry to bother you, but I have a few questions about this motherboard. Today I did my first build with this board and I was wondering where I should plug the 3pin and 4pin connectors on this board? These are the fan hub connectors from my case. Do they go to the upper right corner or, as I did, to the lower right? I'm also wondering if I need to remove the sticker from my ssd (it's a Kingston KC 3000) or is it enough to just remove the protective sticker from the ssd cooler?
Where you plugged in the fans is just fine. And no, you do not need to remove the sticker from the SSD. Just make sure to remove the film from the thermal pad on the ssd heatsink from the motherboard.
@@TechnologyHive Thank you so much I thought that 3pin would go to the 3pin header and 4pin to the 4pin header on the motherboard. One is for fan and another is for argb, right? Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
@@TechnologyHive So where im supposed to plug in those connections? I have fan hub that have 10 rgb connectors and 10 fan connectors which have 2 sata connectors and one 3pin and one 4pin headers I already know that one sata is for PSU and one for motherboard but those 3pin and 4pin headers is mystery haha Im confused now, should i plug them in sys fan header on motherboard and argb fan?
So i did some research on this board and posts on the likes of reddit have said that this motherboard has slow boot up times and a few other issues, was just wanting to ask if you know if the issues have been resolved with a recent update of sorts? currently been looking into moving onto AM5 and this board looks like a great fit for the price, so yeah, if you could give me insight on its issues then i would be most pleased, thank you
Forgot to mention that i know these issues were around on launch of this board, i know it has been some time since its release, so im hoping you could let me know if MSI themselves have somewhat resolved the launch issues
@@matthewdavis2351 Yes. These issues have been resolved with the latest bios update. But, the slow boot times are related to memory training. I do not mind it, because it is actually a feature to help you get the best memory stability possible. Or you can just turn it off and have quick boots.
MSI mag b650 tomahawk wifi takes 57.8sec to boot if you have your memory set 6000 anything above 4800 is OC to MSI. In opinion MSI is Not the best system board at all. I will replacing mine with ASRock. Anything above 4800 is considered an overclock so we cannot guarantee stability above the JEDEC standard. You are free to close the ticket on your end as we cannot. You can also ignore any emails about an open ticket and it should close on its own. Regards MSI Support
is your BIOS updated? Mine is with EXPO enabled and memory set to 6000mhz CL28. my SSD is Samsung 990 pro, CPU is ryzen 9 7900X. my boot time is exactly 22sec starting when you press the power button.
@Samukr. Not at all. The point of buying this board over others at the same or close price point is its VRM. Here with this board you're future-proofing your system for when you want to upgrade your cpu in the future.
@@TechnologyHive Thanks.. I know it has a good audio codec too, but it's sad that it has 3 nvme slots but doesn't have pcie5 for nvme ssd like Asus Tuf.
Hello, I would like to buy the b650 Tomahawk because it has everything I need and looks very cool ngl, but Im actually scared of the huge amount of shit that this motherboard is taking on reddit/forums, people claim a lot of problems with the Bios, rams, boot time and stability in general, I don't know if there is something wrong in particular with MSI on this new AM5 platform because I never had issues with MSI, just 1 time with a mobo but was probably my fault and anyway my build right now is full MSI without any single problem, so I was wondering, do you suggest this board? or should I go with the Asus Tuf Plus Wifi
Reddit is a trash bin. 🗑. There is a lot of disinformation there. The board does have a long boot time due to memory training, which is good for stability. I'm using this board now as I type. Solid 💯 %. Most issues are related to user error.
@@TechnologyHive 10-20 or 45 sec aren't an issue to me, seems like people can't wait 40/50 secs 1/2 times x day, it sounds crazy to me, excluding that there aren't problem, 100% stable you say, seems great to me
Did u bought it for urself or it's a sponsored video? Caz i would never consider anything else when it comes to mobos than Asus or Asrock. Reliability and quality comes first and only them can offer.
I do not have sponsors. And if you think MSI is not a good brand or ASUS or ASROCK are better, then you are new to the PC world. I have been working with PC's since 2003. My first board was an ASUS board with an Athlon64 CPU on a 754 socket. My second board was an MSI board on the 939 socket, and I loved it. From the beginning of my journey into PC land, MSI as a brand has been solid. Of course I have had issues with some of their products but same goes with ASUS and especially ASROCK. I do not have a favorite brand, nor am I bias when it comes to my opinions in any of my videos. I do not get paid to say anything for anyone nor promote anything for anyone. My opinions are my own. Again, MSI is a good brand and anyone who tells you otherwise does not know what they are talking about! Period!
@TechnologyHive I've built my first pc when i was 15 years old, now im 29. I've always had Asrock mobos, currently im on a Asrock B550M Steel Legend. Never had any problem in my life with Asrock, and yes, there is a big build quality difference between Asrock and Asus vs MSI. Check ur mobo and u will be surprised that ur mobo has the inscription of "Made in China". On Asrock u will find "Made in Vietnam or Taiwan". On Asus also u will find "Made in Taiwain". So yes... think about it.
@@d4nith3 My Asus boards all say "Made in China". So do my Gigabyte, and MSI boards. Asrock, MSI, ASUS, and Gigabyte headquarters are in Taiwan. But all outsource their manufacturing to other countries, like China, and Vietnam where the PCB's are made. However, the actual microchips come from Taiwan's TSMC. And no, ASUS boards are not actually made in Taiwan either, they are made in China lol. You do not know what you're talking about man. But I appreciate your passion for tech. 👍
@@d4nith3 Yes, and other boards will say "Made in China". It's how it is man. Just because it says "Made in Vietnam" it does not mean its any better than those made in China. The PCB is made in China or Vietnam. But the semiconductors are made in Taiwan's TSMC fab. Today you learned something new! 🙂
Hello! I have read some other posts that say that this motherboard has a lot of boot time, especially when activating EXPO profile, have you had any experience like that?
Yes it does have a long boot time. But that's okei with me. The reason it takes so long to boot is because of memory training. This board does a really good job at it.
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Very high attention to details of mobo components. This is what a motherboard review should be. Talking about hidden ram traces, power phases, etc. Great video!
@@ZERO_SVN Thank you! 😊
You sir deserve more vieuws ! Thank you for this. My msi b650 tomahawk is arriving today!
@@haelewynbrecht Thank you! And I hope you enjoy your board as well. Nice buy!
Nice motherboard. I've got the B350 and Ryzen 1700 just now and was considering upgrading to Ryzen 7600 with this. I definitely will now. 🍻
You will be glad in the coming years when AMD releases new CPU's. This board is built solid. 👍
@@TechnologyHive especially since AMD just extended their support for AM5 at computex until at least 2027 (I believe their original plan was 2025)
Edit: thank you for the video, it had good pacing and was very informative. Gonna pick this board up for my next build in a month or so
@@donaldskunk8579 That's the main reason why I bought this board. The VRM is superb 👌.
Did you get to upgrade it? If so, have you been having any issues with it, such as a slow boot up time?
was thinking about msi b650 gaming plus wifi, but im glad i didnt order. This is a very nice review, this is for sure going on my list. Thank you for so much detail and explaining. Subbed & Liked.
@jozo.fisherman Thanks for the sub 🙂. Glad the video was helpful!
Nice review and impressive motherboard that I will definitely consider when upgrading :-) I gotta say MSI have totally impressed me with their recent Intel boards from 11th gen and up. They are just so solid and trouble free. Especially with 12th gen where some of those CPU's need plenty of power. It's all about the VRM's right? Currently watching this vid on a system with an MSI B660 Pro A. I upgraded to a 13500 and it handled it beautifully. Always good to think of the future and get a great motherboard from the start. Something that will take newer and more powerful CPU's.
The VRM is the most important part of a motherboard if you want to future proof your purchase, yes. MSI is a good brand. They definitely did not cheap out with this motherboard here 🙂.
Insanely random question but did your box have any security tape required to cut to open the box. Bought the same motherboard from Best Buy and there was no tape and I was just able to open the box. Just making sure I didn’t get a used one.
No no, that is a good question because I do wonder myself sometimes. The answer is no. There was no security tape or sticker outside the box. However, there was a security sticker to open the anti-static bag.
@@TechnologyHive Perfect, thank you so much.
@@JaevenWells No problem :)
Just opened my box. And that was my first thought... "no tapes... is this motherboard actually untouched after factory or did they send me a dirty one?".. and that's how I happened to see this review :D
@@larsjrgensen9261 LOL funny stuff. But what I have started to see more and more is that manufacturers are not using tape as much on things. Or PCI-e slot covers on GPU's, trying to save money everywhere they can I guess.
Hey man, great review! Few questions, how's the boot time? I know that everyone says the AM5 platform has slow boot times, but has it gotten any better? Also, would you reccommend overclocking the RAM to lower it's latency? Thanks!
The boot time is a bit long, yes. But it is worth it, for memory training. To lower ram latency, I would just tighten up the sub-timings.
@@TechnologyHive Aight, gotcha. Also, how’re the Wi-Fi antennas? Are different ones better or nah?
@S0ggyW3tW4t4r They are good. There's nothing negative to say, really.
@@TechnologyHive Cool, thanks
Do I need to flash bios if I pair it with Ryzen 7 7800X3D?
@@jeraldjoshuaechavia1108 mine worked right out of the box with my 7800X3D. But you can always use the bios flashback feature to update the bios without a cpu.
@TechnologyHive so what do you recommend?
Use flashbash feature to update the bios without a cpu right away? Or just try to boot it with cpu on to test if it is already compatible?
@jeraldjoshuaechavia1108 update the bios first
Its a good motherboard, but I do think the two CPU power connectors are gimmicky.
The AM5 socket is only rated for 230w max? One connector alone exceeds the theoretical max.
One connector can deliver around 400w lol. Two connectors are just for looks really, unless you're doing extreme overclocking, at which point clean power delivery is important, and the use of the second connector can be handy.
Sorry to bother you, but I have a few questions about this motherboard. Today I did my first build with this board and I was wondering where I should plug the 3pin and 4pin connectors on this board? These are the fan hub connectors from my case. Do they go to the upper right corner or, as I did, to the lower right?
I'm also wondering if I need to remove the sticker from my ssd (it's a Kingston KC 3000) or is it enough to just remove the protective sticker from the ssd cooler?
Where you plugged in the fans is just fine. And no, you do not need to remove the sticker from the SSD. Just make sure to remove the film from the thermal pad on the ssd heatsink from the motherboard.
@@TechnologyHive Thank you so much
I thought that 3pin would go to the 3pin header and 4pin to the 4pin header on the motherboard. One is for fan and another is for argb, right? Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it.
@@Red-ding-Ton Make sure not to plug in a fan on an RGB header or visa versa. That spells trouble.
@@TechnologyHive What do you mean?
@@TechnologyHive So where im supposed to plug in those connections? I have fan hub that have 10 rgb connectors and 10 fan connectors which have 2 sata connectors and one 3pin and one 4pin headers
I already know that one sata is for PSU and one for motherboard but those 3pin and 4pin headers is mystery haha
Im confused now, should i plug them in sys fan header on motherboard and argb fan?
hi ! One question, when I turn on the PC the Vram and CPU LEDs turn on, but once the Windows system starts they turn off, is this normal?
Yes that is normal.
So i did some research on this board and posts on the likes of reddit have said that this motherboard has slow boot up times and a few other issues, was just wanting to ask if you know if the issues have been resolved with a recent update of sorts? currently been looking into moving onto AM5 and this board looks like a great fit for the price, so yeah, if you could give me insight on its issues then i would be most pleased, thank you
Forgot to mention that i know these issues were around on launch of this board, i know it has been some time since its release, so im hoping you could let me know if MSI themselves have somewhat resolved the launch issues
@@matthewdavis2351 Yes. These issues have been resolved with the latest bios update. But, the slow boot times are related to memory training. I do not mind it, because it is actually a feature to help you get the best memory stability possible. Or you can just turn it off and have quick boots.
Can i use AMD 8000 or 9000 series in this motherboard ?(I am beginner in custom building,so i TRY to learn)
Yes absolutely. It is one of the best B650 boards out there.
so if i got myself a 9800x3d is it compatible looking for a budget motherboard
@@shushinho5274 This board is overkill for a 9800X3D.
@@shushinho5274 got this same board this week.
Also gonna pair it with 9800X3D.
Always seen alot of good things about this one.
MSI mag b650 tomahawk wifi takes 57.8sec to boot if you have your memory set 6000 anything above 4800 is OC to MSI.
In opinion MSI is Not the best system board at all. I will replacing mine with ASRock.
Anything above 4800 is considered an overclock so we cannot guarantee stability above the JEDEC standard. You are free to close the ticket on your end as we cannot. You can also ignore any emails about an open ticket and it should close on its own.
Regards
MSI Support
is your BIOS updated? Mine is with EXPO enabled and memory set to 6000mhz CL28. my SSD is Samsung 990 pro, CPU is ryzen 9 7900X. my boot time is exactly 22sec starting when you press the power button.
@@johnbravo7689 Yes, I have resolved the problem by removing the MSI piece of crap board and sending it to landfill.
Looking to pair this motherboard with the Ryzen 7 8700g. Good idea or Bad Idea?
This board is overkill for that CPU. But if you want to future-proof your purchase, then I would definitely go with this board!
@@TechnologyHive My second option is the MAG B650M MORTAR (M-ATX) version.
@@TechnologyHive Hi! is it overkill for Ryzen 7600x ? I’m in doubt between Asus Tuf and tomahawk
@Samukr. Not at all. The point of buying this board over others at the same or close price point is its VRM. Here with this board you're future-proofing your system for when you want to upgrade your cpu in the future.
@@TechnologyHive Thanks.. I know it has a good audio codec too, but it's sad that it has 3 nvme slots but doesn't have pcie5 for nvme ssd like Asus Tuf.
Did yours come with tape on the box preventing it from opening or was it not sealed? Cuz mine didn’t
MSI and other manufactures are being cheap and skipping the tamper sticker on most of their packaging. Mine came just like yours.
u missed a plastic wrapper in the papers
Ill have to check for that :)
Hello, I would like to buy the b650 Tomahawk because it has everything I need and looks very cool ngl, but Im actually scared of the huge amount of shit that this motherboard is taking on reddit/forums, people claim a lot of problems with the Bios, rams, boot time and stability in general, I don't know if there is something wrong in particular with MSI on this new AM5 platform because I never had issues with MSI, just 1 time with a mobo but was probably my fault and anyway my build right now is full MSI without any single problem, so I was wondering, do you suggest this board? or should I go with the Asus Tuf Plus Wifi
Reddit is a trash bin. 🗑. There is a lot of disinformation there. The board does have a long boot time due to memory training, which is good for stability. I'm using this board now as I type. Solid 💯
%. Most issues are related to user error.
@@TechnologyHive Thanks for your reply, may I ask you how long is your boot time? are we talking about 30-40 sec or more than that?
@@Edoardo-jh9yg Its around 45 seconds. For this board, this is normal.
@@TechnologyHive 10-20 or 45 sec aren't an issue to me, seems like people can't wait 40/50 secs 1/2 times x day, it sounds crazy to me, excluding that there aren't problem, 100% stable you say, seems great to me
@@Edoardo-jh9yg I think you will be very happy with it, aside from the long boot lol
Did u bought it for urself or it's a sponsored video? Caz i would never consider anything else when it comes to mobos than Asus or Asrock. Reliability and quality comes first and only them can offer.
I do not have sponsors. And if you think MSI is not a good brand or ASUS or ASROCK are better, then you are new to the PC world. I have been working with PC's since 2003. My first board was an ASUS board with an Athlon64 CPU on a 754 socket.
My second board was an MSI board on the 939 socket, and I loved it. From the beginning of my journey into PC land, MSI as a brand has been solid. Of course I have had issues with some of their products but same goes with ASUS and especially ASROCK.
I do not have a favorite brand, nor am I bias when it comes to my opinions in any of my videos. I do not get paid to say anything for anyone nor promote anything for anyone. My opinions are my own. Again, MSI is a good brand and anyone who tells you otherwise does not know what they are talking about! Period!
@TechnologyHive I've built my first pc when i was 15 years old, now im 29. I've always had Asrock mobos, currently im on a Asrock B550M Steel Legend. Never had any problem in my life with Asrock, and yes, there is a big build quality difference between Asrock and Asus vs MSI. Check ur mobo and u will be surprised that ur mobo has the inscription of "Made in China". On Asrock u will find "Made in Vietnam or Taiwan". On Asus also u will find "Made in Taiwain". So yes... think about it.
@@d4nith3 My Asus boards all say "Made in China". So do my Gigabyte, and MSI boards. Asrock, MSI, ASUS, and Gigabyte headquarters are in Taiwan. But all outsource their manufacturing to other countries, like China, and Vietnam where the PCB's are made.
However, the actual microchips come from Taiwan's TSMC. And no, ASUS boards are not actually made in Taiwan either, they are made in China lol. You do not know what you're talking about man. But I appreciate your passion for tech. 👍
@TechnologyHive On my Asrock board says "Made in Vietnam"
@@d4nith3 Yes, and other boards will say "Made in China". It's how it is man. Just because it says "Made in Vietnam" it does not mean its any better than those made in China. The PCB is made in China or Vietnam. But the semiconductors are made in Taiwan's TSMC fab. Today you learned something new! 🙂
Hello! I have read some other posts that say that this motherboard has a lot of boot time, especially when activating EXPO profile, have you had any experience like that?
Yes it does have a long boot time. But that's okei with me. The reason it takes so long to boot is because of memory training. This board does a really good job at it.
Well I imagine that it is not that big of a deal, 60 seconds to boot is not something that worries me, thank you for the answer!@@TechnologyHive
How many fans can it take?
I'm running it with 7 at the moment but it can easily feed 12
That wasnt a review, that was an overview.. A review comes after you've made a build with the product and tested it, and seen how it performs.
@bangyahead1 What does the tittle of the video say? 😆