The atlatl has been around over 25000 years..that piece there is a projectile point you said was on a spear...spears on a fixed shaft that's thrown by hand or used to jab are usually thick and sturdy..the thinness along with the flute make it light as possible for speed from atlatl also if a thin point don't have enough speed it will more than likely break hitting target
Most people don't realize that those thin spear points were made to break off, staying in the animal, the wooden spear took a long time to balance,sand heat and treat, it was much more valuable to the Indian than the point.
but the bone/antler atlatl hooks don't show up archaeologically until the early archaic. It wasn't until the mid 2010s that fracture studies on the tip of paleo points proved the velocities needed to produce the fractures were only achievable with bow/arrow or atlatl. At the time of this video it was assumed by many that atlatl had been brought over from Eurasia, but there was no scientific or archaeological data to prove it did in fact exist in the Americas before the Archaic.
What beautiful tips. Unique collection. What I saw is that you already have time that you do not share findings. I wish you are well. Regards. Your friend coyote.
***** these aren't mine, I just reposted this video for all to enjoy. Oh, and the one that looks like a fish is a Cumberland. It's made of a highly unusual material, Burlington. Most are made of Mozarkite, Coshocton,Pedrinalis or a variety of other high quality (glossy) materials. On the market Cumberland's range from $500-$15000, in this case this (Burlington)Cumberland is museum quality.
On a museum, all can enjoy and learn from them. There is a blade in Europe that the Clovis originated from. They are called Salutrian points, they look identical to the Clovis, just they are not fluted. Some day they can date as far back as 40,000 years and older.and yes Neolithic is the correct terminology both for your finds and my info.
BEAUTIFUL ARTIFACTS MR. STONEJELLY. I'M AN ARROWHEAD COLLECTOR MYSELF SIR. ME, AND MY NEPHEW JUST RECENTLY HAVE RECEIVED SOME BEAUTIFUL ARROWHEADS THROUGH THE MAIL FROM MR.CHIP CORNERNOTCH FROM MICHIGAN. AND ME AND JAXSON JUST WANT TO SAY,MR.CHIP CORNERNOTCH IS AN AWESOME ARTIFACT HUNTER,AND WE BOTH APPRECIATE HIM TAKING THE TIME OUT OF HIS BUSY SCHEDULE TO SEND US THE PACKAGE OF ARROWHEADS THAT HE SENT US. WE LOVE YOU MR.CHIP CORNERNOTCH, AND MR.STONEJELLY I'M GIVING YOU A THUMBS UP AS WELL AS WE DO MR.CHIP CORNERNOTCH. SO, THANK YOU MR.STONEJELLY FOR SHARING YOUR AWESOME VIDEOS AND GOOD LUCK HUNTING THIS SEASON TO, TAKE CARE MY FRIEND, THUMBS UP,HAPPY HUNTING.
Interesting. One man's opinion of moonlight. All information always welcomed. Well done. Thank you. Jim (Lithic Technologist/Researcher). Clovis being most consuming.
Awesome points and a great representation of early clovis, all though man used tipped weapons for 2 million years before knapping was perfected at this stage. They simply broke a rock in such a way as to create a cutting edge, but hafting it was not as well known, big clunky tools, meant to break bones of large animals. So their are tools mhch older than these, that did the same thing.
I really like the way you make your videos, they are very informative. I learned a lot! Thanks for passing on your wealth of knowledge on this subject. You explained everything very well and I hope to see more videos like this. Really great job!
Sir, I do not agree with you on the Clovis culture not having the atlatl, I have studied the paleo culture for more than 40 years and have seen held as well as own several Clovis, while some are quite large and suggest knife or spear points others strongly suggest dart points, the small size and delicate nature seem to be for use with the atlatl as a dart and also with a small shaft made for thrusting, this time period was thousands of years before banner stones and such and is quite possible that an atlatl made from nothing but wood would leave no trace evadince to examine, thank you sir for letting me share this theory
I like your thinking, Here in Florida especially in the Sante Fe River and Suwanee River we find far more bone points associated with Simpson and Clovis points and were likely fore shafts used on flint projectiles. Also several hooked ends of atlatl in these same late Pleistocene deposits are also found. It's just as likely that these bone points were used as projectiles thrown by use of an atlatl. Look up Dr. James S. Dunbar work in the Florida Anthropologist and Dr. Robert Sinibaldi "What Your fossils can Tell You" regarding these sites and artifacts. You may find excellent lectures by Dr. Dunbar on the Wakulla Spring and the Aucilla River excavations on these early paleo site that was associated with Mastodon remains on utube. You may also find my lectures on Utube by Google search under David P. Letasi regarding this research under "In Pursuit of Florida's Paleo Hunters". I believe that most of these Clovis and Simpson points were used as knives or fleur de Lance thrusting spear points while the bone points were multi purpose artifacts used as fore shafts, fishing lure, pressure flakers and projectiles. They were readily available as nearly every large game animal has this resource from the butchering process. Several of the points I recovered in Florida have been recognized as being processed from ice age Camel metapodial elements. One in my research collect is even made of fire treated Cypress wood. You may find several of the fossils I recovered in Florida in "What Your Fossil Can Tell You" and may be seen on my utube presentations.
I have a Clovis that is broke in half just like the one you have. Been wanting to find the point to it, but the farmer won't break up the field. He's raising sheep on the fields now. Next it will be stinking solar panels.
Beautiful artifacts. There is a lot of misinformation in this presentation. Paleo peoples did use the Atlanta. Not all paleo points are fluted. Some of the megafauna mentioned were extinct by the time North America was peopled. Sorry to criticize,but I believe it is important to get your facts straight if you intend to educate people. Otherwise you are just contributing to their ignorance.
While this may be incorrect, my understanding was that the atlatl was an Archaic period innovation. As far as mega fauna, here in Ohio, Sheridan Cave and some others in the state have remains of giant sloth&beaver, as well as mastodon included with paleo points,perforators& narrow bone slabs to theoretically fit in the grooves of the point, with the portion holding the point secured with pitch,sinew,etc, & the ends extending below the point shoved into a corresponding socket in the business end of the spear shaft. Atlatl spears had a socket in the butt end of the spear shaft to accommodate the hook on the end of the atlatl.
+Indian artifacts- Jimmy Paleo Mountain man Most repeatable archaeological evidence suggests by 12,000BC North, Central,&South America were occupied, possibly even sooner.
@@paleomountainman9824 23 kya date from the White Sands footprints seems to be accepted now. there is also a 37 kya site in my state, the Rio Puerco mammoth site... dates that old may not be universally accepted in academia
You must have drank all the Kool aid. Man evolved hundreds of thousands of years ago. You can blindly ignore science and hang on to that dream that some higher power created us if you want to. But it makes you look like a fool. Carbon dating debunks your statement. Why can't God have created life. And we evolved from his creation. Adam and Eve are a myth. Open your mind a little.
@@bigbensarrowheadchannel2739 I know the first man's name and his family's names. Our eye sight takes over 2000 thing working at the same time. How did birds evolve? Did they start with bricks for wings? Our RNA goes to the DNA and picks up the information to repair cells the info had to be there first you tell me who put it there. I know but you don't. Dust off your bible while you still can.
John 3:16 for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Just believe that Jesus died and rose again out of the grave and if you believe that then your saved but if you don’t believe you will die and go to hell hands down
I've found paleos that were not ground (yes I'm 99.9% sure of their age)....and 2 clovis points that had their tips taken with the flute but were still used and resharpened???? Where I'm at they seem to have lasted all the way into dalton...Have found them in with dalton s????
The atlatl has been around over 25000 years..that piece there is a projectile point you said was on a spear...spears on a fixed shaft that's thrown by hand or used to jab are usually thick and sturdy..the thinness along with the flute make it light as possible for speed from atlatl also if a thin point don't have enough speed it will more than likely break hitting target
Most people don't realize that those thin spear points were made to break off, staying in the animal, the wooden spear took a long time to balance,sand heat and treat, it was much more valuable to the Indian than the point.
Paleo people definitely used atlatl. It was brought here from Eurasia. The bow and arrow are a late woodland innovation.
but the bone/antler atlatl hooks don't show up archaeologically until the early archaic. It wasn't until the mid 2010s that fracture studies on the tip of paleo points proved the velocities needed to produce the fractures were only achievable with bow/arrow or atlatl. At the time of this video it was assumed by many that atlatl had been brought over from Eurasia, but there was no scientific or archaeological data to prove it did in fact exist in the Americas before the Archaic.
I enjoyed your paleo video. Rk.
I believe you are mistaken when you stated that "all paleo points are fluted."
He said all Paleo points are basally ground, not fluted.
@@dingo9696 1:19 he states that "all paleo points are fluted."
Didn’t expect that accent from Mr Tall Feather!
What beautiful tips. Unique collection. What I saw is that you already have time that you do not share findings. I wish you are well. Regards. Your friend coyote.
Beautiful Folsom points! And the other I know the name of, it just eludes me right now.
***** these aren't mine, I just reposted this video for all to enjoy. Oh, and the one that looks like a fish is a Cumberland. It's made of a highly unusual material, Burlington. Most are made of Mozarkite, Coshocton,Pedrinalis or a variety of other high quality (glossy) materials. On the market Cumberland's range from $500-$15000, in this case this (Burlington)Cumberland is museum quality.
On a museum, all can enjoy and learn from them. There is a blade in Europe that the Clovis originated from. They are called Salutrian points, they look identical to the Clovis, just they are not fluted. Some day they can date as far back as 40,000 years and older.and yes Neolithic is the correct terminology both for your finds and my info.
nice educational video!
BEAUTIFUL ARTIFACTS MR.STONEJELLY. WISH I COULD FIND SOME ARTIFACTS LIKE THOSE. THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
The bases could be ground to help strengthen the point is the basal area to help prevent breaking of base in haft.
BEAUTIFUL ARTIFACTS MR. STONEJELLY. I'M AN ARROWHEAD COLLECTOR MYSELF SIR. ME, AND MY NEPHEW JUST RECENTLY HAVE RECEIVED SOME BEAUTIFUL ARROWHEADS THROUGH THE MAIL FROM MR.CHIP CORNERNOTCH FROM MICHIGAN. AND ME AND JAXSON JUST WANT TO SAY,MR.CHIP CORNERNOTCH IS AN AWESOME ARTIFACT HUNTER,AND WE BOTH APPRECIATE HIM TAKING THE TIME OUT OF HIS BUSY SCHEDULE TO SEND US THE PACKAGE OF ARROWHEADS THAT HE SENT US. WE LOVE YOU MR.CHIP CORNERNOTCH, AND MR.STONEJELLY I'M GIVING YOU A THUMBS UP AS WELL AS WE DO MR.CHIP CORNERNOTCH. SO, THANK YOU MR.STONEJELLY FOR SHARING YOUR AWESOME VIDEOS AND GOOD LUCK HUNTING THIS SEASON TO, TAKE CARE MY FRIEND, THUMBS UP,HAPPY HUNTING.
I suspect many pieces had a dual point/knife function, being hafted to handles or shafts as need dictated.
Thanks for another great one!!! Great explanation on the making of those beauties!! Really enjoy your series, hope you keep them going!!!
Interesting. One man's opinion of moonlight. All information always welcomed. Well done. Thank you. Jim (Lithic Technologist/Researcher). Clovis being most consuming.
Awesome points and a great representation of early clovis, all though man used tipped weapons for 2 million years before knapping was perfected at this stage.
They simply broke a rock in such a way as to create a cutting edge, but hafting it was not as well known, big clunky tools, meant to break bones of large animals.
So their are tools mhch older than these, that did the same thing.
One day I will find a paleo smoker for my collection! Here in Illinois every nice point I go to pick out of the creek are just fancy leaves 😭😭
I find them in South Central lower mi.
You probably have them there
I really like the way you make your videos, they are very informative. I learned a lot! Thanks for passing on your wealth of knowledge on this subject. You explained everything very well and I hope to see more videos like this. Really great job!
I would like to disagree without them being only tied to a stick they have found Atlantal components made of Mastodon ivory in Clovis caches
mammoth ivory
Another nice video ! Paleo is my all time favorites . Probably every collectors dream >
Good information. One goal is to find a point. Live in Maryland. Thanks for the video.
Very informative and well said
The first three points are still worth $3,000
Great points....great info!
Thanks for posting!!
Nice video but I believe you need to do a little more research on your projectile points.
Awesome explanation. Thank u.
can you explain why cumberlands have such long flute channels
Very , very informative video. Thank you for posting..
Sir, I do not agree with you on the Clovis culture not having the atlatl, I have studied the paleo culture for more than 40 years and have seen held as well as own several Clovis, while some are quite large and suggest knife or spear points others strongly suggest dart points, the small size and delicate nature seem to be for use with the atlatl as a dart and also with a small shaft made for thrusting, this time period was thousands of years before banner stones and such and is quite possible that an atlatl made from nothing but wood would leave no trace evadince to examine, thank you sir for letting me share this theory
I like your thinking, Here in Florida especially in the Sante Fe River and Suwanee River we find far more bone points associated with Simpson and Clovis points and were likely fore shafts used on flint projectiles. Also several hooked ends of atlatl in these same late Pleistocene deposits are also found. It's just as likely that these bone points were used as projectiles thrown by use of an atlatl. Look up Dr. James S. Dunbar work in the Florida Anthropologist and Dr. Robert Sinibaldi "What Your fossils can Tell You" regarding these sites and artifacts. You may find excellent lectures by Dr. Dunbar on the Wakulla Spring and the Aucilla River excavations on these early paleo site that was associated with Mastodon remains on utube. You may also find my lectures on Utube by Google search under David P. Letasi regarding this research under "In Pursuit of Florida's Paleo Hunters". I believe that most of these Clovis and Simpson points were used as knives or fleur de Lance thrusting spear points while the bone points were multi purpose artifacts used as fore shafts, fishing lure, pressure flakers and projectiles. They were readily available as nearly every large game animal has this resource from the butchering process. Several of the points I recovered in Florida have been recognized as being processed from ice age Camel metapodial elements. One in my research collect is even made of fire treated Cypress wood. You may find several of the fossils I recovered in Florida in "What Your Fossil Can Tell You" and may be seen on my utube presentations.
Great Folsom points.. Around 7000b.c. about the oldest you can find.. Only ones older are the Clovis..Spectacular sir
There are preclovis artifacts that go back much further!
Paleo means "old" or "ancient" - Sorry, had to say it. Greek major here.
I have a Clovis that is broke in half just like the one you have. Been wanting to find the point to it, but the farmer won't break up the field. He's raising sheep on the fields now. Next it will be stinking solar panels.
Good luck
Thank you for the info.
good info. i agree with everything but them not using atlatl
Clovis had atlatl throwers. Cro Magnon had them in Europe. Neanderthal used spears in the hand.
Thanks for this vid ,I am going to look through my points and see if the Danes did th same with fluting .Happy hunting
Can these be found in florida?
Beautiful artifacts. There is a lot of misinformation in this presentation. Paleo peoples did use the Atlanta. Not all paleo points are fluted. Some of the megafauna mentioned were extinct by the time North America was peopled. Sorry to criticize,but I believe it is important to get your facts straight if you intend to educate people. Otherwise you are just contributing to their ignorance.
While this may be incorrect, my understanding was that the atlatl was an Archaic period innovation. As far as mega fauna, here in Ohio, Sheridan Cave and some others in the state have remains of giant sloth&beaver, as well as mastodon included with paleo points,perforators& narrow bone slabs to theoretically fit in the grooves of the point, with the portion holding the point secured with pitch,sinew,etc, & the ends extending below the point shoved into a corresponding socket in the business end of the spear shaft. Atlatl spears had a socket in the butt end of the spear shaft to accommodate the hook on the end of the atlatl.
Just when was North America peopled?
+Indian artifacts- Jimmy Paleo Mountain man Most repeatable archaeological evidence suggests by 12,000BC North, Central,&South America were occupied, possibly even sooner.
@@paleomountainman9824 23 kya date from the White Sands footprints seems to be accepted now. there is also a 37 kya site in my state, the Rio Puerco mammoth site... dates that old may not be universally accepted in academia
Paleo means before ceramics
They were not hunting Mammoth, stop that blitzkrieg bs.
Amerinds did NOT use copper like europeans or asians
Look like fish
The first man was created by God six thousand years ago
You must have drank all the Kool aid. Man evolved hundreds of thousands of years ago. You can blindly ignore science and hang on to that dream that some higher power created us if you want to. But it makes you look like a fool. Carbon dating debunks your statement. Why can't God have created life. And we evolved from his creation. Adam and Eve are a myth. Open your mind a little.
@@bigbensarrowheadchannel2739 I know the first man's name and his family's names. Our eye sight takes over 2000 thing working at the same time. How did birds evolve? Did they start with bricks for wings? Our RNA goes to the DNA and picks up the information to repair cells the info had to be there first you tell me who put it there. I know but you don't. Dust off your bible while you still can.
John 3:16 for god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life. Just believe that Jesus died and rose again out of the grave and if you believe that then your saved but if you don’t believe you will die and go to hell hands down
Paleo yes, Clovis no. Only the broken one is a candidate to be a Clovis.
I've found paleos that were not ground (yes I'm 99.9% sure of their age)....and 2 clovis points that had their tips taken with the flute but were still used and resharpened???? Where I'm at they seem to have lasted all the way into dalton...Have found them in with dalton s????
The ones you found not ground was transitional paleo entering the Dalton period...