I have hundreds in North Georgia. Most have paint on them. I have even found almost perfectly preserved clay effigies with paint and worked flakes used as eyes, noses, and ears. I have also been called crazy, but have clear images. The most bizarre is a translucent paint that when made wet and held in proper lighting almost gives a 3 dimensional image of ancient man's face, men with antlers, ravens, and most all of mine have either tiny white faces with black over the eyes or red faces with black over the eyes. Happy discovering.
Our ancestors were highly intelligent and left historical documents in their own way, in stone. With spiritual connections concerning all things of nature and concentrating on the most important elements in their lives which gave them life, animals, to enhance the hunt, it is my belief that they sculpted these in stone, wood and bone as a spiritual connection for encouragement to go about their daily lives in courage. I have so many of these, one is a woman with a nursing baby, her face is beauty and perfection, these effigies are truly history in stone, left to us that we should treasure and keep safe for future generations, I just may write my own book too, in spite of naysayers.
I live in Vegas and I have been rock hunting and collecting my whole life and I have animal effigies. I have old people, native faces, birds, wolves, I have some truly beautiful pieces. I absolutely was thinking these thoughts about my finds shortly before I saw this video. Yes! The rocks have faces
This just made me so happy.. my stone art makes sense now.. a hippo a rhinoceros a lion/puma a gorilla and a bears face in a snarl.. all the images have a mirror or reverse image of a/the image ( animals).. (11) eleven images on one stone..
When you have to show where the face is because others can't see it, it's your mind. Your mind can make you see faces and animals anywhere. Think about looking at the clouds and seeing one thing and someone else sees another.
Loved this I have been hunting arrowhleads in very northern california my whole life of 60 yrs. I think I'm good at it but the efigies I truly love. I have a grey squirrel, coyote birds fish.people,seals so many. I think that so.e are maps,maybe hunting or fishing grounds
Some stones were deliberately carved by ancient peoples, for different reasons. Other stones, coincidentally, were created by nature, itself...which is explained as being "pareidolia."
I've got birds I cannot find anything but birds and they're Illinois is loaded every rock is carved like a bird no big no smile I looked at the rocks at the end of my driveway that I had purchased from a restaurant bottom line is their carved and they're like 500 pounds a piece everything is missing heads and tails but I can find wings and everything right on the rock
No doubt man..these effigies tell a story..I find alot of animals.mostly animals who r n nature around em.birds turtles snakes cats mammoths bison all kinds I have em all
Pareidolia is the tendency for incorrect perception of a stimulus as an object, pattern or meaning known to the observer, such as seeing shapes in clouds, seeing faces in inanimate objects or abstract patterns, or hearing hidden messages in music. Awesome shirt!
Jackassitis is the tendency to tear down anything or anyone that one does not understand- not knowing the heart, with eyes that cannot see and ears that cannot hear. Artists and artisans create what they see and what they value. Ancient man was not dull as you are supposing. You in fact are an effigy of the Living God, and made in His image as is the man you are putting down. It's dangerous to tear down what God calls treasure- his prized possession. Humanity cuts itself and cuts God when we tear each other down. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not being a bully or troll- perhaps just smarter than you are loving. God can help you see colors in people and life other than turquoise and orange in a shirt.
Tell ya what is love to email u some picture of effigies I find here in western Pennsylvania..as a skeptic ud be the best opinion I can ask for;) I have some good ones
I went through the same thing...people said I was crazy. I have some pieces that I found years ago. I had no clue about effigy stones back then. Now...I realize I have some true treasures. Museums can't even come close to the beautiful collection Ihave found through the years. I still have so much to learn. Having fun at this Hobbie like no other. I gave up hunting arrowheads. These are spiritually deeper and give so much insight to their beliefs.
That’s exactly why we are starting to really push and spread this information. My channel name is the same as this one, but it’s not this account… Look back into it, we have a whole team of people trying to expose this art and share it with the rest of the world. We’re honoring the people who came before us. I would love to talk to Jim and plan on reaching out to him after I read his book.
When native peoplea made effigies they made them from good types of stone locally available and highly polished and unmistakable. A frog looks like a frog. A turtle looks like a turtle ect. What this dude is doing is the same as staring at clouds and seeing animals and shapes. I might see a elephant in a cloud, this old cat might see a 3 legged donkey.
I have found a lot here in Colorado also tools and I can't seem not to find them now they are everywhere I look now I thought I was crazy at first but I'm not the only one which is comforting 😉
I just started finding them while digging for gold here in Co, the snails have me questioning my sanity. I keep telling my son I feel like I should be on meth becasue its so obsessive.
Professional archaeologists are very reticent to be involved with portable rock art because the vast majority, like Jim's collection as well, are pareidolia and the result of natural weathering processes, not human modification.
@@SkinnyVinnyLive Has nothing to do with going against any so-called narrative, broken lithic/weathered material is exactly what most of it is. One can pick up any piece and envision something, the bigger your imagination the more you're going to "see". 99.9% of these "effigies" are just leaverites, lithic waste. But I guess they are whatever one chooses them to be.
You can tell the difference between natural pieces and worked pieces. You've got to remember that long before pens, paper and Walmart, art work consisted of sticks and rocks. Many rocks show manmade markings but not everyone had the talent. A lot were done by children. Recognizable finished pieces are a lot harder to find but when you are open-minded enough to recognize the difference, the hunting is extremely enjoyable.
Thank you for sharing this. As an aspiring full spectrum- ist with a collection of historical artifacts or leaper rights meteorites meteor fragments media wrongs effigies you name it. I grew up a deep thinker aspired by philosophy art and music. Now at 40 wildlife isn't by any measure what my parents had raised me to be prepared for, rather I feel as though there is a wrinkle in time and so much is just ain't right. Thank God for the ancients our ancestors brothers and sisters from eons ago who also loved music art and the world of which they had mastered that delicate balance of mutual respect for mother Earth and mother Earth apparently love them. It's become my pursuit of happiness in some measure while I deal with the onslaught of an unforgiving and unjust current world order, that I have found my every possible free moment digging for more clues and indulging in independent research and studies to solve this gift of a peculiar and insatiable drive to salvage any bit of this secret and monumental slice of time and culture. If anyone is available outsiders or insiders, I would love the opportunity to meet and be able to discuss with y'all some of the experiences and share discoveries amongst each other in the hopes to bring about a suitable and undeniable solid collaboration of knowledge artifacts specimens you name it all bound together in a professional and encouraging formation to share amongst those who may be duly is curious and more importantly sure to the best of our knowledge something beautiful for future generations to come. In a world that seems so indispensable lately we're hardly few if any at all I really looking for those details it's a wonder if we're going to make it too much further regardless of technologies advances can't have one without the other it's a balance. Sorry for the long message but you truly do bring a smile to my face and it warms my heart to know no matter how odd my loved ones treat me when I go pick up another rock I can rest assured I am not the only one who sees something and I've consider it a gift
Beautifully well put. Without a doubt, there is a different narrative than we're given. I can't believe I've just now discovered this on UA-cam! I don't know why I didn't think of looking here before because to be certain, there's not a lot of solid information across the internet about this topic and there is SOOO much to be discovered and learned. Keep ALL your eyes open people! There's more information in these rocks than we could probably learn in a lifetime and it's awe-inspiring!
Thank you for spreading the word. I was disappointed when at 40 years old I found out about this ancient culture and all the artwork behind it and it was denied by archaeologists. When I was a child they told me to be like curious George but as an adult they want me to keep quiet and stay in my house. The art led me to an Indian mound being destroyed for housing development right near where I was finding this art. Now I’m trying to save the mound but it doesn’t seem like anyone in North Carolina gives a dang
It’s funny or ironic. In tbr east they literally destroy Native American artifacts, but then ya go to Utah and the president of the U.S. turns 1.25 million acres of public land into a monument to protect some artifacts greatly abusing the antiquities act. That act says to protect the least amount of land needed for artifacts. It’s just now a way they make whatever park they want in the west as they continue to develop the eastern U.S. A rational person would be shocked that 25% of tbr US is public land and 95% of that is from Colorado westward. It’s like why didn’t they sell half or more of the land in the west and use the money to buy up large tracts of land back east? Every state east of Colorado should have a massive national park or something so in theory there’s conservation in every state. But it’s shocking real estate developers can destroy mounds. Maybe they claim they’re just hills. I know developers in Las Vegas broke the law. They were paying the government to remove the endangered desert tortoise. The endangered species act basically says you can’t build on land that’s got endangered animals on and here they’re paying the government to remove it. Or in Florida the government is forcing a ranch to sell for condos. It’s should have become a 250,000 acre national park but no it’s being used for condos. It’d interesting people and politicians think native Americans lived only out west when in reality it was everywhere. Utah and Arizona and New Mexico have some big reservations but I don’t think back east they have much of anything
I knew it! I know what I'm looking at and what I see! No one talks about it and others I think I can trust laugh at me and make me feel stupid. I have a past with drug use so people make me feel too afraid to say anything because they will act like Im some tweeker and I'm high. I don't want people to look at me like that so I don't like saying something but I think it's important and changes what we know about humans, indians, and the historical facts and dates of things. And it's being destroyed by people not caring not looking and not acknowledging what's around them. There is so so much where I am living and has never been mentioned anywhere. It's here. Tons of it. Thank you for this. I knew I wasn't crazy. And my interpretation of what I thought I was seeing is confirmed.
I live in the UK and have amassed a collection of stunning effigies, mainly cast in flint, which is a plentiful stone where I live...I have one, which I consider to be an actual art treasure it is so beautiful, intricate and large...I was looking at it in the twilight shadows the other evening and as I turned it in my hands, the differing images just kept coming...Foxes, rabbits, eagles, seabirds, humans, horses, sharks, dolphins, other types of fish, wolves, big cats and the Sasquatch, or Wildman images...It is almost holographic and I do not think conventional humans, the ones we are at least, could have made it...Whoever made it, was capable of working in 4 dimensions...This particular stone freaks out the sceptics...LOL...Thanks anyway...
I have thousands too but all of mine are birds big small I've got 600-lb rocks carved as birds and I have one the size of my fingernail but nothing but birds in the middle of Illinois. I have a spot where one square mile every rock that you pick up is carved but it's all birds bird parts a lot of bodies heads and tails broke off I wish I could send you pictures have a great day and a Happy New Year.....
I have effigy rocks, usually a bird in the mouth, tail carved etc. My understanding is the small ones were talismans - if you carried an owl you wanted good night vision. Jesuit missionaries said to toss them, so they're in historical record. Interesting that the depictions are similar per animal, my deer, bear, panthers and especially eagles resemble each other. Favorite is a beaver with one big tooth and well carved woolly mammoth.
Awsome. I knew I wasn't alone! Im the president of the Brent Kahune Just Rocks fan club! My Spirit name is Eric (My People Call It Corn) Schmuecker As I always say everything fits the hand but it doesn't make it a tool. And keep your hands out of your pants.
I have hunted effigies since 1961, I have about 200. The effigies that have 2 heads on it is like our marriage ring. The effigies are from two people getting married from 2 families in the tribe. Each family has an animal that represents their family. A man can only marry a Squaw from another family in their tribe or another tribe. Family is dad, mom,aunts and cousins with the same last animal they represent. The Potawatamy, Ojibwa, Ottawa and other tribes followed this tradition.
I found a rock with what looks like two human faces , one on each side the rock 🪨 fits right inside my palm on the smaller size , I wonder if this is one of the rocks that represented marriage !
I am in WA State, I have recently found a large amount of various tool types and some effigies...in my yard of a rental house...would like to get ahold of this man if anyone knows how to contact him now...this message is being posted almost a year after the interview...any information would be appreciated...thx
The Pacific Northwest is ripe with so many artifacts. This area was a highly trafficked area and a trade route. There are some very interesting articles from the Universities of OR ad WA that offer great details to the area and its geography and native artifacts.
Hello! I am in WA State also and have made several discoveries on my property. Ive had so much anxiety about this because my partner thinks Im going crazy. Would love to connect and compare these stones.
At 15:27 he's misunderstood the stone. It's not a mountain man wearing a lion skin, it's a mammoth face and the trunk is also a smiladon(sabertooth). At 16:46 there is a smilodon as well, not a bobcat. You can see the teeth covered by it's lips that shroud the saberteeth. We modern humans learned that the lips did this within the last 25 years. The person who made this saw these things in person. These are older than he realizes. But he's super cool and has a neat collection.
Nice! There are so many things to interpret from the stones that we're limited only by our imagination. That being said pareidolia is a real thing but not everything should be shrugged off like that. If you have no imagination, you can't see anything anyway. So maybe the unimaginative or unintuitive can't see because their groomed to follow the prescribed storyline and aren't interested in educating themselves further to the possibilities.
I would tend to agree with you on the mountain Man being misinterpreted. I can see exactly what he's talking about though but I just don't think it was a mountain man but I sure can see a mountain man there!
Thank you for you video. Wyoming is God's country for sure. I have found lots of Native American artifacts here in Cortez, CO on private land with permission. Mostly pottery sherds and cutters. I have been warned not to keep as bad spirits follow them. I have owned a box of arrowheads since childhood. Never experienced anything. I know Native Americans believed everything, the trees, rocks, all had spirits. What are your thoughts and have you ever experienced anything. ty
Let's not forget that there are also mythological creatures made into the stones as well as probable animals that have since become extinct that most common folks haven't even heard about before. So if there seems to be something monstrous or non-human but has detail, It's a possibility as well. This world has seen many creatures of all types in all of IT'S history, not just our modern one. The shamans were believed to have also created what they had seen while on their dream journeys. Dreams are subjective to the person that's telling the story. Not everyone is going to get it.
Exactly, it’s fueling the prevalence of ignorance in society. He claims that archeologists told him that they aren’t considered artifacts because they “don’t know how they made them”, something tells me that’s not exactly what he was told but what he wants to take from it.
i have a house thatr sits on a mound opf these effigies and no one will help me figure this out they just want to know where i got them from.. and now i swear people are digging under my house!
Last week they dug a hole on my job site in Chicago right outside the city and thousands of birds popped up thousands I grabbed as many as I could but they were breaking them up and a lot of them were broke but they dug up thousands and that's about a hundred miles from the other site that I have they also dug up with the birds they all had a stand every bird had a stand that it sat on like a trophy
my family thinks im crazy too .. in ohio i found a bird mound and my brother thinks im crazy but they worshiped birds here and they had a bird cult here and i discovered a place where they left the bird effigys most are tools and most have several faces and animals ,it happens and people can learn to see what they are and how to see them just my op i love these things esp the pocket ones with faces and headdress
Native people believe that such items should be left alone . The Non-Native finder does not know the history , use or purpose of these items and can only offer conjecture as to the use or purpose , esp. if used by a Shaman which is different than a Medicine person . There are powerful spirits attached to such items and not to be trifled with or removed from their location. Any Native person can tell you this , like I just have .
Agreed. However, the majority of Jim's 'effigies' are pareidolia and are not humanly modified but the result of natural weathering processes. All modern humans are susceptible to pareidolia, even paleo and archaic indigenous peoples. It's all speculation and not science unless there is forensic evidence of human modification.
Enjoyed this segment. I have found these over the years, and yes, I've been looked at like I'm crazy. The first that I really took note of was a three sided wolf's head out of a white stone with black trimmings for the face features. I found what I thought was a charm of sort, worn by human hand, the more I looked at it. I believe it was a turtle, greenish rock too. A natural rock that looked like art, I believe, would have been cherished by the Indians no doubt. They sure liked the pretty agates.
I guess a 2 year old told a story of what he could see on a rock and this guy never grew up on a rock story Sorry I can't see anything except for a rock the PBS guy is laughing cause he feels the same way
Exactly! I just started in Virginia. We go to this farm and there is a river we can fish on and I started looking at some of the rocks that were perfect triangles. I started researching stone tools and came across the effigies, and went back and looked at some of the tools I had collected and found a lot of them were actually animals. I have a huge one that is a side view of a face with what looks like a headdress. I have birds, bears, wolves and one that is a human face and ontop of his head is the head of a pig. I have carried about 5 bags from the river so far and have found some really great stuff! It has really peaked my interest! I try to make my husband take me every weekend just so I can go look!
If you compare the rocks to petrified snake heads you will figure out how they were made. And also think about larger serpents like dinos and dragons. It's a little bit scary but that is what most of them are
Umm... don't know about some of these. I can make any rock look like something just like I can with clouds. Most of these are cores from knapping tools like knives, arrowheads, scrappers. True Effigies you can see the figures without question, the native american were very much advanced in their stone tool making and effigy making. Sorry, but a lot of this looks to be to me a beautiful imagination, having seen many true effigies in museums and private collections.
i have a cler crystal snake head that i believe to be clovis it mimics the fluting ofthe points they made i could be wromg wish i had someone to check it out stunning detailive found a boars head that doubles asa buffalo several bird stones sculls horse duckshape stones and tons of toolssouth carolina
Good stuff..I'd love to see thoes..I've also been finding some great ones in western pa.always looking for folks for share info with so we can figure these effigies out .I feel alot of em tell more than just a picture..some even tell stories.just a thought
I also found a 10-ft statue approximately but all it's sticking out of the ground is the head and the top of the body about 2 ft of it but it goes straight down in the dirt
Also I love his bear deer effigy it taught me a little bit of things I have a bobcat etched in this stone with something in its mouth and I really couldn't understand it until I saw his bear dear effigy the Bobcat is holding a bird in its mouth it is really cool and I learn a lot by watching UA-cam and him and all the others that post this really cool stuff that we would otherwise be ignorant of I want to start posting some of my cool stuff I just have to figure out how to do it I have a stone that me and my girlfriend had for years until I figured out on one side it is a beautiful toad and on the other side it is a beautiful Sparrow or some sort of bird like that she has always collected weird odd stones and we never really realized they were Effigies and when you start looking at them you see it so clearly it is so cool take care and be blessed all
You got it right when you said and this is a bird that's all that is a bird part bud nothing else sorry to burst your bubble but that's the third part you guys both got it right I have a lot of them. And just to let you guys know I'm 51 and I started hunting arrowheads with my father when I was 9.
I would be a happy man when I find a turtle head as big as that one. Love to see great art on the rocks. For some reason, I dont see the arrowheads. I sure can see a rock looking at me though. Them are the easy ones to spot. The pointy things I find has three sides, each corner smoothed to the point. Different sized ones, the smaller ones look to of have been hafted. I think thats what its called. Alot of activity in Atchison, Ks.
In the farmers just plowed out here in Illinois about a month ago and they hit a 2-foot statue in my field tore it up I put it all in a little pile onto the side but they broke it up so bad is is at least a 2 ft high schedule all birds
Yes interpretation but he is right!! I have several pieces that have several purposes. And animal/human effigies. Absolutely amazing! He is 100% correct!
At 10:58 the mouse rock is proof it wasn’t carved. I can show you an effigy in every rock. It’s not an effigy it’s a natural formation. The mouse is evidence for natural formation. I have found a series of patterns in every rock. The lion head is one of them. It also can look like a dinosaur with the crystals always in the position of teeth. The lion head is always facing right. If you turn the rock the opposite direction you will see a lamb or ram head. If you turn it long ways vertical you will see a face and the other way an entire body. It is repeatable 190% using the scientific method.
Definite bird not mountain man they drove the hole in it to make that beak you have an upside down you're missing the stand and it's probably a long tail that went with it if you look carefully you'll see everything that's broke off I'm positive lot of bird parts
I have to make this comment I agree with 90% of what he is saying but his little white mouse story doesn't really hold a lot of authenticity to me because it could have been just a simple chip of that stone and it happens to look like a mouse to him which I agree but I don't see any actual to work to prove that they made a white mouse and I do believe it could have been white mouse like he believes but in reality I think it was just somebody not to chip off that stone and nature made it look like a white mouse I don't think it was actually intended to be a white mouse but then again I can be wrong because I'm not the one who chipped it and I'm not the one who thought hey that looks like a white mouse everything he said is probably true but I have a little bit of disbelief in my mind if it was actually intended to be a white mouse because I find a lot of stones that were actually made by Nature and they could be whatever you want to interpret them to be and the Native American Indians could have interpreted that to be a white mouse and I'm not saying that it isn't and I don't want to sound like a disbeliever because I do know a lot of his stuff is truly Effigies but I had to make that comment and see if anybody else agreed with me all right take care and bless all of you
You have a lot of bird stands and you can see the tails carved in the top of the stand like that brown rock a lot of things are birds with these Indians I'm telling you but that brownstone it's a stand with a tail carved into it you're missing a lot of it I've got a lot of stands I've got 5 ft high stands with tails carved in them a lot I've got a lot of small stands I've got birds that are perfect not even a missing heads nothing perfect so I know what I'm saying bud and you got a lot of bird parts I think
Side of mountain man it's a bird and where they drilled that hole in it that's I think that's the beak right there you headed upside down when you first brought it out but it's bird part telling you there a lot of bird parts ain't no mountain man
I have hundreds in North Georgia. Most have paint on them. I have even found almost perfectly preserved clay effigies with paint and worked flakes used as eyes, noses, and ears.
I have also been called crazy, but have clear images. The most bizarre is a translucent paint that when made wet and held in proper lighting almost gives a 3 dimensional image of ancient man's face, men with antlers, ravens, and most all of mine have either tiny white faces with black over the eyes or red faces with black over the eyes.
Happy discovering.
I also collect effigies....i live in north georgia...my family call me crazy also about my rocks..
try black light or uv lighting
Our ancestors were highly intelligent and left historical documents in their own way, in stone. With spiritual connections concerning all things of nature and concentrating on the most important elements in their lives which gave them life, animals, to enhance the hunt, it is my belief that they sculpted these in stone, wood and bone as a spiritual connection for encouragement to go about their daily lives in courage. I have so many of these, one is a woman with a nursing baby, her face is beauty and perfection, these effigies are truly history in stone, left to us that we should treasure and keep safe for future generations, I just may write my own book too, in spite of naysayers.
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I can’t stop watching this interview. I really would love to get a hold of Jim Gaskins. I’m excited for his next book.
I live in Vegas and I have been rock hunting and collecting my whole life and I have animal effigies. I have old people, native faces, birds, wolves, I have some truly beautiful pieces. I absolutely was thinking these thoughts about my finds shortly before I saw this video. Yes! The rocks have faces
There is a community built around this, more and more of us are networking and figuring out this complicated multi faceted art style.
Portable rock is everywhere. Every state. But archaeologists refute PRA and believe it to natural. It’s real. It’s ancient.
Completely agree!
This just made me so happy.. my stone art makes sense now.. a hippo a rhinoceros a lion/puma a gorilla and a bears face in a snarl.. all the images have a mirror or reverse image of a/the image ( animals).. (11) eleven images on one stone..
This is the future of archeology.
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Try telling that to a professional archaeologist.
Such confidence in these folks
This is why you shouldn't trust public broadcasting 🤣
I think the local PBS affiliate was just doing a "human interest" story and being kind to this guy.
When you have to show where the face is because others can't see it, it's your mind. Your mind can make you see faces and animals anywhere. Think about looking at the clouds and seeing one thing and someone else sees another.
It’s called art. You can’t have it without imagination.
Yes, true effigies are unmistakable and crafted with skill.
Loved this. Keep on keeping on!!Another effigy hunter.
Awesome. Loved this show. Rock art and effigies are my thing.
Check mine out
Picking up rocks and calling them Effigies is "your thing?"
I suppose it's at least a healthy hobby to have.
Loved this
I have been hunting arrowhleads in very northern california my whole life of 60 yrs. I think I'm good at it but the efigies I truly love. I have a grey squirrel, coyote birds fish.people,seals so many. I think that so.e are maps,maybe hunting or fishing grounds
Some stones were deliberately carved by ancient peoples, for different reasons. Other stones, coincidentally, were created by nature, itself...which is explained as being "pareidolia."
I've got birds I cannot find anything but birds and they're Illinois is loaded every rock is carved like a bird no big no smile I looked at the rocks at the end of my driveway that I had purchased from a restaurant bottom line is their carved and they're like 500 pounds a piece everything is missing heads and tails but I can find wings and everything right on the rock
No! PBS should not be giving this credence. I'm sorry but they're just rocks.
This was painful to watch ...I was literally shouting "You Idiot!" at my phone screen.
@@terrell9457 I could fill a real book with these misfits.
WOW! An extremely interesting introduction to a largely unknown and unappreciated cultural aspect of humans who lived here long ago.
No doubt man..these effigies tell a story..I find alot of animals.mostly animals who r n nature around em.birds turtles snakes cats mammoths bison all kinds I have em all
I live in central Indiana and I have a very large collection of stone effigies and stone tools that I believe is from the Paleo period
@@JohnDoe-mk9nf, unless you found them at a documented site and have ethnography to back them up, then they are PAREIDOLIA.
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The presence of this rock art is way way way more prevalent than people can even imagine....
Pareidolia.
Pareidolia is the tendency for incorrect perception of a stimulus as an object, pattern or meaning known to the observer, such as seeing shapes in clouds, seeing faces in inanimate objects or abstract patterns, or hearing hidden messages in music. Awesome shirt!
Jackassitis is the tendency to tear down anything or anyone that one does not understand- not knowing the heart, with eyes that cannot see and ears that cannot hear. Artists and artisans create what they see and what they value. Ancient man was not dull as you are supposing. You in fact are an effigy of the Living God, and made in His image as is the man you are putting down. It's dangerous to tear down what God calls treasure- his prized possession. Humanity cuts itself and cuts God when we tear each other down. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not being a bully or troll- perhaps just smarter than you are loving. God can help you see colors in people and life other than turquoise and orange in a shirt.
Paradolia is the spark of inspiration. This man is way over your head.
Tell ya what is love to email u some picture of effigies I find here in western Pennsylvania..as a skeptic ud be the best opinion I can ask for;) I have some good ones
Pareidolia is the spark of inspiration not a disease.
Pareidolia is a spark of inspiration to a creative mind and a handicap to a dullard.
Amazing finds, I've found a turtle, white Buffalo, horses, and more, the rocks speak to us!
I went through the same thing...people said I was crazy.
I have some pieces that I found years ago. I had no clue about effigy stones back then. Now...I realize I have some true treasures.
Museums can't even come close to the beautiful collection Ihave found through the years. I still have so much to learn. Having fun at this Hobbie like no other.
I gave up hunting arrowheads.
These are spiritually deeper and give so much insight to their beliefs.
That’s exactly why we are starting to really push and spread this information. My channel name is the same as this one, but it’s not this account… Look back into it, we have a whole team of people trying to expose this art and share it with the rest of the world. We’re honoring the people who came before us. I would love to talk to Jim and plan on reaching out to him after I read his book.
Great interview on Jim's effigy collection and book. The book will make a great addition to my collection.
When native peoplea made effigies they made them from good types of stone locally available and highly polished and unmistakable. A frog looks like a frog. A turtle looks like a turtle ect. What this dude is doing is the same as staring at clouds and seeing animals and shapes. I might see a elephant in a cloud, this old cat might see a 3 legged donkey.
The ones who are chosen to find, I believe we are only circling around. :) hello tribal souls
I have found a lot here in Colorado also tools and I can't seem not to find them now they are everywhere I look now I thought I was crazy at first but I'm not the only one which is comforting 😉
I just started finding them while digging for gold here in Co, the snails have me questioning my sanity. I keep telling my son I feel like I should be on meth becasue its so obsessive.
Have some effigies also. Most arrowhead hunters don't believe they were made and aren't artifacts. I love your collection.
They can't go against the narrative!
Professional archaeologists are very reticent to be involved with portable rock art because the vast majority, like Jim's collection as well, are pareidolia and the result of natural weathering processes, not human modification.
@@SkinnyVinnyLive Has nothing to do with going against any so-called narrative, broken lithic/weathered material is exactly what most of it is. One can pick up any piece and envision something, the bigger your imagination the more you're going to "see". 99.9% of these "effigies" are just leaverites, lithic waste. But I guess they are whatever one chooses them to be.
@@diggingthewest7981 They used to call a guy like this a crackpot ! ( ....... and I still do ! )
You can tell the difference between natural pieces and worked pieces. You've got to remember that long before pens, paper and Walmart, art work consisted of sticks and rocks. Many rocks show manmade markings but not everyone had the talent. A lot were done by children. Recognizable finished pieces are a lot harder to find but when you are open-minded enough to recognize the difference, the hunting is extremely enjoyable.
The vast majority are pareidolia.
How did this guy make it on PBS and write a book??????
This was painful to watch.
Thank you for sharing this. As an aspiring full spectrum- ist with a collection of historical artifacts or leaper rights meteorites meteor fragments media wrongs effigies you name it. I grew up a deep thinker aspired by philosophy art and music. Now at 40 wildlife isn't by any measure what my parents had raised me to be prepared for, rather I feel as though there is a wrinkle in time and so much is just ain't right. Thank God for the ancients our ancestors brothers and sisters from eons ago who also loved music art and the world of which they had mastered that delicate balance of mutual respect for mother Earth and mother Earth apparently love them. It's become my pursuit of happiness in some measure while I deal with the onslaught of an unforgiving and unjust current world order, that I have found my every possible free moment digging for more clues and indulging in independent research and studies to solve this gift of a peculiar and insatiable drive to salvage any bit of this secret and monumental slice of time and culture. If anyone is available outsiders or insiders, I would love the opportunity to meet and be able to discuss with y'all some of the experiences and share discoveries amongst each other in the hopes to bring about a suitable and undeniable solid collaboration of knowledge artifacts specimens you name it all bound together in a professional and encouraging formation to share amongst those who may be duly is curious and more importantly sure to the best of our knowledge something beautiful for future generations to come. In a world that seems so indispensable lately we're hardly few if any at all I really looking for those details it's a wonder if we're going to make it too much further regardless of technologies advances can't have one without the other it's a balance. Sorry for the long message but you truly do bring a smile to my face and it warms my heart to know no matter how odd my loved ones treat me when I go pick up another rock I can rest assured I am not the only one who sees something and I've consider it a gift
Beautifully well put. Without a doubt, there is a different narrative than we're given. I can't believe I've just now discovered this on UA-cam! I don't know why I didn't think of looking here before because to be certain, there's not a lot of solid information across the internet about this topic and there is SOOO much to be discovered and learned. Keep ALL your eyes open people! There's more information in these rocks than we could probably learn in a lifetime and it's awe-inspiring!
Thank you for spreading the word. I was disappointed when at 40 years old I found out about this ancient culture and all the artwork behind it and it was denied by archaeologists. When I was a child they told me to be like curious George but as an adult they want me to keep quiet and stay in my house. The art led me to an Indian mound being destroyed for housing development right near where I was finding this art. Now I’m trying to save the mound but it doesn’t seem like anyone in North Carolina gives a dang
Just bought his book, excited to read it and see the artifacts.
7:38 pointing down is a beautiful bird-head. It’s one of the most beautiful Effigies I’ve ever seen
It’s funny or ironic. In tbr east they literally destroy Native American artifacts, but then ya go to Utah and the president of the U.S. turns 1.25 million acres of public land into a monument to protect some artifacts greatly abusing the antiquities act. That act says to protect the least amount of land needed for artifacts. It’s just now a way they make whatever park they want in the west as they continue to develop the eastern U.S. A rational person would be shocked that 25% of tbr US is public land and 95% of that is from Colorado westward. It’s like why didn’t they sell half or more of the land in the west and use the money to buy up large tracts of land back east? Every state east of Colorado should have a massive national park or something so in theory there’s conservation in every state.
But it’s shocking real estate developers can destroy mounds. Maybe they claim they’re just hills. I know developers in Las Vegas broke the law. They were paying the government to remove the endangered desert tortoise. The endangered species act basically says you can’t build on land that’s got endangered animals on and here they’re paying the government to remove it. Or in Florida the government is forcing a ranch to sell for condos. It’s should have become a 250,000 acre national park but no it’s being used for condos. It’d interesting people and politicians think native Americans lived only out west when in reality it was everywhere. Utah and Arizona and New Mexico have some big reservations but I don’t think back east they have much of anything
This man is tripping. It's called pareidolia. It's just his imagination..
100%
I knew it! I know what I'm looking at and what I see! No one talks about it and others I think I can trust laugh at me and make me feel stupid. I have a past with drug use so people make me feel too afraid to say anything because they will act like Im some tweeker and I'm high. I don't want people to look at me like that so I don't like saying something but I think it's important and changes what we know about humans, indians, and the historical facts and dates of things. And it's being destroyed by people not caring not looking and not acknowledging what's around them. There is so so much where I am living and has never been mentioned anywhere. It's here. Tons of it. Thank you for this. I knew I wasn't crazy. And my interpretation of what I thought I was seeing is confirmed.
I live in the UK and have amassed a collection of stunning effigies, mainly cast in flint, which is a plentiful stone where I live...I have one, which I consider to be an actual art treasure it is so beautiful, intricate and large...I was looking at it in the twilight shadows the other evening and as I turned it in my hands, the differing images just kept coming...Foxes, rabbits, eagles, seabirds, humans, horses, sharks, dolphins, other types of fish, wolves, big cats and the Sasquatch, or Wildman images...It is almost holographic and I do not think conventional humans, the ones we are at least, could have made it...Whoever made it, was capable of working in 4 dimensions...This particular stone freaks out the sceptics...LOL...Thanks anyway...
I'VE FOUND THOUSANDS...FROM THE TINIEST TO A 50 LB AGATE...COVERED WITH CARVED SNAKES...
I have thousands too but all of mine are birds big small I've got 600-lb rocks carved as birds and I have one the size of my fingernail but nothing but birds in the middle of Illinois. I have a spot where one square mile every rock that you pick up is carved but it's all birds bird parts a lot of bodies heads and tails broke off I wish I could send you pictures have a great day and a Happy New Year.....
This man speaks truth.
So, it’s not just my imagination when I find stones I think are birds etc in ny !
I have effigy rocks, usually a bird in the mouth, tail carved etc. My understanding is the small ones were talismans - if you carried an owl you wanted good night vision. Jesuit missionaries said to toss them, so they're in historical record. Interesting that the depictions are similar per animal, my deer, bear, panthers and especially eagles resemble each other. Favorite is a beaver with one big tooth and well carved woolly mammoth.
With respect to the turtle effigy , there are Native American flood stories that include a turtle
Someone should introduce hime to Brent kunes
Brent is one of the best.
Awsome. I knew I wasn't alone!
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My Spirit name is
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As I always say everything fits the hand but it doesn't make it a tool.
And keep your hands out of your pants.
I have hunted effigies since 1961, I have about 200.
The effigies that have 2 heads on it is like our marriage ring.
The effigies are from two people getting married from 2 families in the tribe.
Each family has an animal that represents their family.
A man can only marry a Squaw from another family in their tribe or another tribe.
Family is dad, mom,aunts and cousins with the same last animal they represent.
The Potawatamy, Ojibwa, Ottawa and other tribes followed this tradition.
I found a rock with what looks like two human faces , one on each side the rock 🪨 fits right inside my palm on the smaller size , I wonder if this is one of the rocks that represented marriage !
I am in WA State, I have recently found a large amount of various tool types and some effigies...in my yard of a rental house...would like to get ahold of this man if anyone knows how to contact him now...this message is being posted almost a year after the interview...any information would be appreciated...thx
The Pacific Northwest is ripe with so many artifacts. This area was a highly trafficked area and a trade route. There are some very interesting articles from the Universities of OR ad WA that offer great details to the area and its geography and native artifacts.
Hello! I am in WA State also and have made several discoveries on my property. Ive had so much anxiety about this because my partner thinks Im going crazy. Would love to connect and compare these stones.
@@littlequesadilla Your partner is correct.
At 15:27 he's misunderstood the stone. It's not a mountain man wearing a lion skin, it's a mammoth face and the trunk is also a smiladon(sabertooth). At 16:46 there is a smilodon as well, not a bobcat. You can see the teeth covered by it's lips that shroud the saberteeth. We modern humans learned that the lips did this within the last 25 years. The person who made this saw these things in person. These are older than he realizes. But he's super cool and has a neat collection.
Nice! There are so many things to interpret from the stones that we're limited only by our imagination. That being said pareidolia is a real thing but not everything should be shrugged off like that. If you have no imagination, you can't see anything anyway. So maybe the unimaginative or unintuitive can't see because their groomed to follow the prescribed storyline and aren't interested in educating themselves further to the possibilities.
I would tend to agree with you on the mountain Man being misinterpreted. I can see exactly what he's talking about though but I just don't think it was a mountain man but I sure can see a mountain man there!
can't decide who has the better shirt
Hell of a imagination
Thank you for you video. Wyoming is God's country for sure. I have found lots of Native American artifacts here in Cortez, CO on private land with permission. Mostly pottery sherds and cutters. I have been warned not to keep as bad spirits follow them. I have owned a box of arrowheads since childhood. Never experienced anything. I know Native Americans believed everything, the trees, rocks, all had spirits. What are your thoughts and have you ever experienced anything. ty
Ole Jim has a real imagination.....
Let's not forget that there are also mythological creatures made into the stones as well as probable animals that have since become extinct that most common folks haven't even heard about before. So if there seems to be something monstrous or non-human but has detail, It's a possibility as well. This world has seen many creatures of all types in all of IT'S history, not just our modern one. The shamans were believed to have also created what they had seen while on their dream journeys. Dreams are subjective to the person that's telling the story. Not everyone is going to get it.
That's a big no! False information.
I have some ver kool effigies too, been trying to get help identifying
Me too..have ya found any help..or good resources?
This is getting comical
Exactly, it’s fueling the prevalence of ignorance in society. He claims that archeologists told him that they aren’t considered artifacts because they “don’t know how they made them”, something tells me that’s not exactly what he was told but what he wants to take from it.
What the archeologist probably said was he couldn't see alteration by humans
i have a house thatr sits on a mound opf these effigies and no one will help me figure this out they just want to know where i got them from.. and now i swear people are digging under my house!
Last week they dug a hole on my job site in Chicago right outside the city and thousands of birds popped up thousands I grabbed as many as I could but they were breaking them up and a lot of them were broke but they dug up thousands and that's about a hundred miles from the other site that I have they also dug up with the birds they all had a stand every bird had a stand that it sat on like a trophy
my family thinks im crazy too .. in ohio i found a bird mound and my brother thinks im crazy but they worshiped birds here and they had a bird cult here and i discovered a place where they left the bird effigys most are tools and most have several faces and animals ,it happens and people can learn to see what they are and how to see them just my op i love these things esp the pocket ones with faces and headdress
Native people believe that such items should be left alone . The Non-Native finder does not know the history , use or purpose of these items and can only offer conjecture as to the use or purpose , esp. if used by a Shaman which is different than a Medicine person . There are powerful spirits attached to such items and not to be trifled with or removed from their location. Any Native person can tell you this , like I just have .
Agreed. However, the majority of Jim's 'effigies' are pareidolia and are not humanly modified but the result of natural weathering processes. All modern humans are susceptible to pareidolia, even paleo and archaic indigenous peoples. It's all speculation and not science unless there is forensic evidence of human modification.
I am sure many native people who have ancestrally collections laugh at how wrong white man interprets flint knapped cores, lol.
They were training aids for hunting strategies also . I have some on my channel that are unbelievable.
Enjoyed this segment. I have found these over the years, and yes, I've been looked at like I'm crazy. The first that I really took note of was a three sided wolf's head out of a white stone with black trimmings for the face features. I found what I thought was a charm of sort, worn by human hand, the more I looked at it. I believe it was a turtle, greenish rock too. A natural rock that looked like art, I believe, would have been cherished by the Indians no doubt. They sure liked the pretty agates.
I guess a 2 year old told a story of what he could see on a rock and this guy never grew up on a rock story
Sorry I can't see anything except for a rock the PBS guy is laughing cause he feels the same way
It's never too late to look for their art . Just look down , it's everywhere .
Exactly! I just started in Virginia. We go to this farm and there is a river we can fish on and I started looking at some of the rocks that were perfect triangles. I started researching stone tools and came across the effigies, and went back and looked at some of the tools I had collected and found a lot of them were actually animals. I have a huge one that is a side view of a face with what looks like a headdress. I have birds, bears, wolves and one that is a human face and ontop of his head is the head of a pig. I have carried about 5 bags from the river so far and have found some really great stuff! It has really peaked my interest! I try to make my husband take me every weekend just so I can go look!
I like to call these finds, the every mans effigies. They were portable and probably not reserved for high status individuals, a very personal item.
If you compare the rocks to petrified snake heads you will figure out how they were made. And also think about larger serpents like dinos and dragons. It's a little bit scary but that is what most of them are
18.00 I see a fish in that stone as well.
Umm... don't know about some of these. I can make any rock look like something just like I can with clouds. Most of these are cores from knapping tools like knives, arrowheads, scrappers. True Effigies you can see the figures without question, the native american were very much advanced in their stone tool making and effigy making. Sorry, but a lot of this looks to be to me a beautiful imagination, having seen many true effigies in museums and private collections.
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i have a cler crystal snake head that i believe to be clovis it mimics the fluting ofthe points they made i could be wromg wish i had someone to check it out stunning detailive found a boars head that doubles asa buffalo several bird stones sculls horse duckshape stones and tons of toolssouth carolina
Good stuff..I'd love to see thoes..I've also been finding some great ones in western pa.always looking for folks for share info with so we can figure these effigies out .I feel alot of em tell more than just a picture..some even tell stories.just a thought
Only one that looks legit to me is the so called turtle.
I also found a 10-ft statue approximately but all it's sticking out of the ground is the head and the top of the body about 2 ft of it but it goes straight down in the dirt
Me too in Michigan Charlie have fun hunting!
How can I reach this gentleman. I do this type of stuff. Just had a question . If possible. I live in Missouri.
Also I love his bear deer effigy it taught me a little bit of things I have a bobcat etched in this stone with something in its mouth and I really couldn't understand it until I saw his bear dear effigy the Bobcat is holding a bird in its mouth it is really cool and I learn a lot by watching UA-cam and him and all the others that post this really cool stuff that we would otherwise be ignorant of I want to start posting some of my cool stuff I just have to figure out how to do it I have a stone that me and my girlfriend had for years until I figured out on one side it is a beautiful toad and on the other side it is a beautiful Sparrow or some sort of bird like that she has always collected weird odd stones and we never really realized they were Effigies and when you start looking at them you see it so clearly it is so cool take care and be blessed all
The one with the mano embedded in it looks more like an owl.Owls r frequently associated with sorcery.
Prob is
And I'm sure these must be Scottish Indians because you know that's where it all started
You got it right when you said and this is a bird that's all that is a bird part bud nothing else sorry to burst your bubble but that's the third part you guys both got it right I have a lot of them. And just to let you guys know I'm 51 and I started hunting arrowheads with my father when I was 9.
I would be a happy man when I find a turtle head as big as that one. Love to see great art on the rocks. For some reason, I dont see the arrowheads. I sure can see a rock looking at me though. Them are the easy ones to spot. The pointy things I find has three sides, each corner smoothed to the point. Different sized ones, the smaller ones look to of have been hafted. I think thats what its called. Alot of activity in Atchison, Ks.
In the farmers just plowed out here in Illinois about a month ago and they hit a 2-foot statue in my field tore it up I put it all in a little pile onto the side but they broke it up so bad is is at least a 2 ft high schedule all birds
Yes interpretation but he is right!! I have several pieces that have several purposes. And animal/human effigies. Absolutely amazing! He is 100% correct!
He's only found 200 in 40 years? I can get you 200 in five minutes...
The area that I hunt my arrowheads and find all these birds is not far from Peoria straight East 2 1/2 hours
I bet you that first rock is a bird head missing the beak and stuff is probably a real big statue but I don't think it's a turtle head
At 10:58 the mouse rock is proof it wasn’t carved. I can show you an effigy in every rock. It’s not an effigy it’s a natural formation. The mouse is evidence for natural formation.
I have found a series of patterns in every rock. The lion head is one of them. It also can look like a dinosaur with the crystals always in the position of teeth. The lion head is always facing right. If you turn the rock the opposite direction you will see a lamb or ram head. If you turn it long ways vertical you will see a face and the other way an entire body. It is repeatable 190% using the scientific method.
Definite bird not mountain man they drove the hole in it to make that beak you have an upside down you're missing the stand and it's probably a long tail that went with it if you look carefully you'll see everything that's broke off I'm positive lot of bird parts
I just wanna say anyone who doubts this.id love to prove a skeptic wrong give it a chance hmu
Open a geology book dumbass
And turtles are my most plentiful finds but I think they find me 🤨😂
Okay I have to say it golf wasn't even around talking Phineas be playing golf on a rock
The big effigy looks more of an owl to me than a turtle
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I have to make this comment I agree with 90% of what he is saying but his little white mouse story doesn't really hold a lot of authenticity to me because it could have been just a simple chip of that stone and it happens to look like a mouse to him which I agree but I don't see any actual to work to prove that they made a white mouse and I do believe it could have been white mouse like he believes but in reality I think it was just somebody not to chip off that stone and nature made it look like a white mouse I don't think it was actually intended to be a white mouse but then again I can be wrong because I'm not the one who chipped it and I'm not the one who thought hey that looks like a white mouse everything he said is probably true but I have a little bit of disbelief in my mind if it was actually intended to be a white mouse because I find a lot of stones that were actually made by Nature and they could be whatever you want to interpret them to be and the Native American Indians could have interpreted that to be a white mouse and I'm not saying that it isn't and I don't want to sound like a disbeliever because I do know a lot of his stuff is truly Effigies but I had to make that comment and see if anybody else agreed with me all right take care and bless all of you
I can send you thousands of pictures of the things I have all birds even if I don't want it to be a bird it's a bird
You have a lot of bird stands and you can see the tails carved in the top of the stand like that brown rock a lot of things are birds with these Indians I'm telling you but that brownstone it's a stand with a tail carved into it you're missing a lot of it I've got a lot of stands I've got 5 ft high stands with tails carved in them a lot I've got a lot of small stands I've got birds that are perfect not even a missing heads nothing perfect so I know what I'm saying bud and you got a lot of bird parts I think
I like when you say it's a bird and the other man says I can actually see that it is they're all bird parts but everything you have is bird parts
Side of mountain man it's a bird and where they drilled that hole in it that's I think that's the beak right there you headed upside down when you first brought it out but it's bird part telling you there a lot of bird parts ain't no mountain man
I believe about the mouse but the rest of bird parts
wow, you really felt the need to point out this was filmed prior to covid. /smh