They Ruined This My Hero Academia Scene So Badly The Animator Didn't Want To Take Credit For it

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  • Опубліковано 21 лют 2024
  • Vincent Chansard has become quite the popular animator with his recent work on Jujutsu Kaisen Season 2 Episode 17 and his Kaido moments in One Piece. However it seems they butchered a scene he did in My Hero Academia so badly he didn't want to be credited
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  • @lowdistortion
    @lowdistortion 4 місяці тому +10680

    That animator went on to become legit one of the best animators on this planet. Vincent Chansard is a One man army.

    • @re_striker3431
      @re_striker3431 4 місяці тому +311

      And he working full time on one piece

    • @JustinMedina-ro8du
      @JustinMedina-ro8du 4 місяці тому

      Damn all that skill and talent to go animate mid​@@re_striker3431

    • @mockouchiha7579
      @mockouchiha7579 4 місяці тому +94

      @@re_striker3431 ong we stay eating good

    • @samuelezonch9823
      @samuelezonch9823 4 місяці тому +9

      ​@@Refl1ct1onbro watta hell?

    • @yungtux8770
      @yungtux8770 4 місяці тому +81

      Yup and MAPPA scared him off from their studio. Fml

  • @zegarth_corpse
    @zegarth_corpse 4 місяці тому +9428

    The final cut animators probably looked at Vincent and said: "We ain't doin' allat"

    • @sweetieswifey627
      @sweetieswifey627 4 місяці тому +275

      💀💀💀

    • @zegarth_corpse
      @zegarth_corpse 4 місяці тому

      @@Refl1ct1on Ah thank you ig?

    • @sweetieswifey627
      @sweetieswifey627 4 місяці тому +102

      @@AniMangHwa_ you replied to the wrong person

    • @monsieurLDN
      @monsieurLDN 4 місяці тому

      He is NOT interested ​@@sweetieswifey627. I dont understand why you have to push your ideology on others

    • @maxmanchik
      @maxmanchik 4 місяці тому +37

      ​@@AniMangHwa_certified bruh moment

  • @Papameme-rg3ig
    @Papameme-rg3ig 4 місяці тому +6246

    This mainly happened because Vincent wasn’t part of the mha production team (he was only asked to make a layout, not genga).When he’s asked to make an LO, he’s not going to tone down his ambition for when he’s animating a scene, and when production conditions don’t allow the main key animation to be finished, then the final product is going to look nothing like the LO that Vincent made.

    • @drp7751
      @drp7751 4 місяці тому +28

      What is LO?

    • @chipanims6270
      @chipanims6270 4 місяці тому +143

      ​@drp7751 Pretty sure it's Layout

    • @thetitanhater
      @thetitanhater 4 місяці тому +493

      So that means that Vincent went so fucking crazy on that scene that the studio didn't have enough time or budget to animate it LMAO

    • @rishitsinha8041
      @rishitsinha8041 4 місяці тому +194

      @@thetitanhater Cuz s5 was literally being animated during covid(also movie 3) lol, the mva arc was overall in the same situation as jjk s2 ep14 so ofc they can't animate scene with much complexity in art and camera movement plus despite those conditions it was more consistent and not skipping frames like that jjk ep. Vincent has also made a post(its actually a thread) on Twitter not blame any animator for this which Chibi didn't even show.

    • @Papameme-rg3ig
      @Papameme-rg3ig 4 місяці тому +4

      @@thetitanhatermainly time but yeah pretty much lol

  • @AnimeNerd500
    @AnimeNerd500 4 місяці тому +4175

    The same problem happened to the Nanami vs Mahito fight in season 1, where the layout was extremely complicated, and due to lack of time the end product was extremely toned down.

    • @keno4770
      @keno4770 4 місяці тому +184

      This is untrue. The genga for that fight was fully finished, it’s just that the compositing slightly ruined it.

    • @AnimeNerd500
      @AnimeNerd500 4 місяці тому +171

      @@keno4770 yeah, i never said that the genga wasn't finished, what i said was that the other departments just couldn't keep to the insane level of animaton.

    • @Alcachofer42
      @Alcachofer42 4 місяці тому +15

      Where can I see the animation layout of that fight?

    • @AnimeNerd500
      @AnimeNerd500 4 місяці тому +15

      @@Alcachofer42 sakuga booru

    • @Papameme-rg3ig
      @Papameme-rg3ig 4 місяці тому +23

      And the same thing happened with Benjamin faure during shibuya arc. Most of his LO’s end up not getting translated into the final product which is a shame

  • @tomnguyen7371
    @tomnguyen7371 4 місяці тому +2001

    "I am very happy people like my animation, but please don't use it to hate people who literally destroy their health to make anime.
    The fact that the episode was finished on time is proof enough that there was a reason for that change, and to be fair, we got some pretty beautiful drawings of toga.
    Hopefully the health of the team was preserved, the episode was finished and it told the story it was supposed to tell.
    A thing a lot of people don't address is that the shots were long,my sequence was 20 shots,and some of them were around 10 seconds with a lot of characters, and it's one thing when it is on the storyboard,but once you see it animated it's a valid concern that it might be too much
    This is also something that happens everyday, in many anime. Had to do corrections before, and I sometimes changed the content of the shot, so it is completely reasonable that it can happen to me as well, that is just how it works in our industry, and that's for the better.
    Studio bones gave me permission to post the layouts, where they could have not, my name wasn't in the credit so no one would have ever find out and it would have been fine, but now the trust the company gave me just became fuel to hate them.
    I think it is just not worth having a tweet that's literally just an excuse for people to hate toward passionate and overworked workers. I know it's too late, but i might just take it out if it goes on like this." - Vincent Chansard's thoughts on the matter.
    Source: twitter.com/Sparkleredpanda/status/1431972917156491265?t=2SExAjbM7ciYlhLsvDh0pQ&s=19
    I leave out the last part so you can read it there.

    • @KeyFChicken
      @KeyFChicken 3 місяці тому +73

      Based 🗿

    • @saintchr1s
      @saintchr1s 3 місяці тому +9

      i ain't read allat

    • @Ishl
      @Ishl 3 місяці тому

      @@saintchr1splay some subway surfers video on the side so your brain can be constantly stimulated 👍

    • @MagmaBombe
      @MagmaBombe 3 місяці тому +233

      @@saintchr1sthen don’t brother, no one’s gonna force you to

    • @Ethan-yd4gn
      @Ethan-yd4gn 3 місяці тому +64

      What an absolutely based human being

  • @FurqanHun
    @FurqanHun 4 місяці тому +2538

    for some reason my guts says its more of the producers side issue than studio bones, we know what bones is capable of

    • @faikromid1970
      @faikromid1970 4 місяці тому +43

      Buddy those scene that go crazy take time.
      He made all that and the members had 1 weeks.

    • @FurqanHun
      @FurqanHun 4 місяці тому +155

      @@faikromid1970ik all that, i don't think you understood my comment 🚶

    • @faikromid1970
      @faikromid1970 4 місяці тому +7

      @@FurqanHun sorry I'm bad at English

    • @FurqanHun
      @FurqanHun 4 місяці тому +39

      @@faikromid1970your english ain't that bad, mine is, it's not just english I'm bad at I'm even bad at my own native language. It is good enough to be capable of holding a conversion in local version of the language for me.
      Also i said that i think producers are the reason why MHA is goin through the hell of a ride, Whether it is budget related, time period related or even demographic related, and the reason is that we know what studio bones (the studio animating my MHA) is capable of, they've given us some real good content over the past years, even during the period of publishing MHA''s previous season they were concluding Mob Psycho 100 with season 3 and it has a place of its own in my heart. And around the same time Bongou Stray Dogs season 5 was being published too. I haven't watched every single anime from studio bones but i've watched multiple and majority of them were good adaptations, Studio Bones isn't the only one at fault is what i meant.

    • @tongansquillium1263
      @tongansquillium1263 4 місяці тому +23

      its because shows like mob psycho and fmab are led by different animation teams than my hero

  • @JolmerlJolmerlnoMi
    @JolmerlJolmerlnoMi 4 місяці тому +577

    Vin said don't be angry at anyone because he is overdoing his parts.

  • @zurcarak
    @zurcarak 4 місяці тому +571

    Yeah i remember watching that Toga scene and being my favorite of the season and then going into twitter and seeing the real one 💀 ain't no way

    • @splinter4161
      @splinter4161 16 днів тому +3

      Truuuuue dude, I was popping off at that scene and to think it could've even be better!!

  • @RocSandy
    @RocSandy 4 місяці тому +2522

    Imagine working so hard only to find out that half of your hard work was wiped clean🤦‍♂️

    • @AppStateWaifu
      @AppStateWaifu 4 місяці тому +127

      I’d be so embarrassed and infuriated if I was Vincent

    • @G4animestar
      @G4animestar 4 місяці тому

      Imagine only talking shit about mha for clout and attention instead of actually talking about the good like the recent chapters💀you clearly have an agenda here using mha slander to boost you views you're pathetic bro ​@@ChibiReviews

    • @anonisnoone6125
      @anonisnoone6125 4 місяці тому +141

      Wtf is Bones even doing to fuck the anime up this bad? Ever since s5, they've been fucking up. Do they even give a shit anymore?

    • @markomaksimovic7678
      @markomaksimovic7678 4 місяці тому +106

      This is without a shadow of a doubt a time constraint thing. People don't realize how just common this actually is in the industry. One of his shots form JJK was also cut up and butchered (not the one shown in this video) and not just him but other people as well. He actually stated that he's never returning to Mappa because of it. The good thing is we'll still be able to see him in One Piece in the future.

    • @wendylacey2745
      @wendylacey2745 4 місяці тому +15

      @@anonisnoone6125what do you mean? Season 6 is a decent step up from season 5. Let’s just hope they keep that same energy with season 7.

  • @KyoArchive2_
    @KyoArchive2_ 4 місяці тому +577

    I'm just imagining the studio going "Bich we ain't Mappa, how can we animate this!?"

    • @joaocbcneto
      @joaocbcneto 4 місяці тому +145

      "did someone from the Mob Psycho team get put here by accident?

    • @sleepylion9788
      @sleepylion9788 4 місяці тому +76

      This is Bones, MAPPA is not the only studio who can animate action. And MAPPA also has made some really shit animation

    • @cwega2463
      @cwega2463 4 місяці тому +58

      mainstream brain rot take. Bones is one of the greatest studios for anime sakuga, ever. just lately with MHA they struggle due to schedules.
      MAPPA isn’t the only mainstream studio that’s amazing with action. hell, they really only have three shows that genuinely have impressive action sakuga that they’re known for (AOT, JJK, CSM), compared to the other 40+ shows they have.

    • @HabitualThinker
      @HabitualThinker 4 місяці тому +7

      @@cwega2463it… wasn’t a take.

    • @WestGarbage6
      @WestGarbage6 3 місяці тому +17

      @@sleepylion9788 MAPPA's 'shit animation' was all due to time constraints, having to get I believe another season of chainsaw man, a JJK movie, and JJK season 2 out all within a year, other than that their animation has been nothing but outstanding, even Sukuna vs Mahoraga was good to an extent, just unfinished, and Sukuna Vs Jogo, the disaster curses vs Gojo, Toji vs Gojo, all of that was peak.

  • @vantasethatsit9903
    @vantasethatsit9903 4 місяці тому +553

    what Vincent did is what called ichigen (first key) that's why it was still so rough and still can't be sent to inbetween just yet, it then get checked by the director and then sent to nigen (2nd key) to be made more in standard for production, so if you want to know where this scene got changed it's probably the director part, nigen are not allowed to changed the scene to this extend, as to why? probably time..... it is what it is

    • @vantasethatsit9903
      @vantasethatsit9903 4 місяці тому

      @@OneAndOnlyWanted well it made it more obvious why the change then.

    • @drp7751
      @drp7751 4 місяці тому

      ​@@OneAndOnlyWanted how was the layout poor? Most ley animations I see look like that

    • @vantasethatsit9903
      @vantasethatsit9903 4 місяці тому

      @@OneAndOnlyWanted it is what it is, that's just how outside perspective is

    • @OneAndOnlyWanted
      @OneAndOnlyWanted 4 місяці тому

      @@drp7751 most key animation do not at all look like that (unless under terrible time crunch or newer animators) these aren't KA anyways. It's layouts. Before the key animation stage.

    • @drp7751
      @drp7751 4 місяці тому +1

      @@OneAndOnlyWanted bro is blind💀

  • @Ockto_
    @Ockto_ 3 місяці тому +130

    this video is so funny now, starting with praising JJK for "doing what MHA couldn't" just for the blu-ray to come out and confirm the JJK anime cut at least 20 complete cuts of animation because they didn't have enough time.
    Like, a whole video on a cut from Vincent in MHA that got butchered, then it's revealed JJK completely removed at least 3 cuts Vincent worked on.

    • @samuelcarlson1102
      @samuelcarlson1102 2 місяці тому +24

      yeah except the unfinished episode in JJK was still better animation wise than anything mha has had in a long long time and no wonder why when they cut incredibly good animation like this out seemingly not for any "we need this out right now" purposes either lol

    • @reddyjj4629
      @reddyjj4629 Місяць тому

      The best fight in Jjk maybe even of all time

    • @irrelevanttroll3312
      @irrelevanttroll3312 20 днів тому

      Jogo vs Sukuna had better animation​@@reddyjj4629

    • @irrelevanttroll3312
      @irrelevanttroll3312 20 днів тому +1

      the difference is that 1 was butchered the other is atleast 60% as good

    • @Ockto_
      @Ockto_ 20 днів тому +2

      @@irrelevanttroll3312 not for Vincent! The episode still looked amazing, but Vincent's cut, along with others, were trashed completely.

  • @Randommtf
    @Randommtf 3 місяці тому +64

    "Vincent we don't have that mugh budget bro go easy on the animation"
    Vincent:

  • @superblanco444
    @superblanco444 4 місяці тому +675

    You’re 3 years too late

  • @Ikarusu
    @Ikarusu 4 місяці тому +145

    this has happened in JJK s2 too, i remember seeing a entire cut genga from the episode where yuji fights in a corner with mahito because of the schedules.

  • @bomu04
    @bomu04 4 місяці тому +110

    okay, I know a lot of people don't know how the animation industry runs and I can understand why this kind of opinion is all over the community. But, the change with the Vincent cut is NOT ruined but fixed well. Anime has a process the first is what Vincent did; the layout and the genga, the second douga which is inbetweening the frame, and finally coloring and composition. So what Vincent doing was overusing the genga and making the movement more expressive and smooth. I also like how the cut came out. But, if the Genga has a lot of frames the other douga or coloring or composition will take way more time. This would cause a schedule problem and can lead to a delay. So, I think the Sakkan or enshutsu who are the initial animation directors, removed all additional frames and made it more durable with the schedule. I really understand why some people are mad about this incident but, vincent also knows why this problem occurred and it's an unavoidable fix.

    • @bootlegspinjutsu9966
      @bootlegspinjutsu9966 3 місяці тому +6

      This is why Vincent said he wouldn't work for Ufotable because of how strict they are about keeping things 'in pocket'. Sure they *could* make something like Sukuna vs Mahoraga, but they wouldn't want to do that because of how many layers of compositing they would have to put on animation as complex or as smear-filled as his. Their compositing already takes a shit load of time (hence why they only have like 2 really good sakuga cuts every season in Demon Slayer), and that already takes a year while including the fact that Nozomu Abe (they guy who does said cuts) has animation that is far more grounded that Vincent's. This fight alone would take possibly 5-8 months to make (probably higher), and would take so long in fact that they wouldn't be making an anime standard to their strongsuit, but a passion project.

    • @Randomergoesbrrrr
      @Randomergoesbrrrr 18 днів тому

      yeah, but it still looks better

  • @sameeruchiha7026
    @sameeruchiha7026 4 місяці тому +452

    The disrespect he worked so hard for it

    • @mathieul4303
      @mathieul4303 4 місяці тому +15

      I think it’s time constraints that caused that

    • @rishitsinha8041
      @rishitsinha8041 4 місяці тому +66

      Bro Vincent literally said no one is to blame for that on twitter but chibi didn't even show about

    • @sedarium5307
      @sedarium5307 3 місяці тому +7

      @@rishitsinha8041 yeah, the circumstances leaded to that, no one is to blame on this case, since that season of MHA was produced during COVID, and due to that it was rushed

    • @reina_harhar7815
      @reina_harhar7815 3 місяці тому +6

      Vincent admitted though. He stated that he can see why they didn't include some parts. He went overboard on some parts

  • @CrimsonGeode
    @CrimsonGeode 3 місяці тому +90

    MHA still has that goofy happy blue sky even with how dark/serious season 6 and 7 are meant to be.

  • @ImAlsoLonely998
    @ImAlsoLonely998 3 місяці тому +91

    imagine if MAPPA got ahold of mha. Considering some of the animes they've worked on it would be a blood bath that has been holding back for 8 years.

    • @nesraspongx58
      @nesraspongx58 3 місяці тому +4

      i mean, mappa already has too much, we probably would've gotten the same result as here, both bones and mappa are outstanding studios with some of the best people in the industery, or if i'm reading this wrong and you mean everything was gonna get ruined out of overwork then yeah mappa really needs to take less shows this upcoming bit...

    • @ImAlsoLonely998
      @ImAlsoLonely998 3 місяці тому +5

      @@nesraspongx58 well sitting aside the over worked employees I was talking Abt animation wise and how much gore they put in animes. For some reason bones has not put a lot of the gore and stuff in the anime like it was in the manga, like there was a scene in the manga where Shiggys jaw was dislocated and looked liked it was Abt to fall off and bunch of blood but in the anime his mouth just looked open. Some of animes that MAPPA has worked on(that I've seen that is) like chainsaw man, hells paradise, aot season 4, and jjk didn't hold back on the blood. And as well as some of the colors that they use to animate and shade. I would like to MHA in MAPPAS animating style thats all I'm saying.

    • @nesraspongx58
      @nesraspongx58 3 місяці тому

      @@ImAlsoLonely998
      huh, that's a cool point, to be perfectly honest i haven't personally watched mha, i was talking about bones in more broad terms (space dandy, technically cowboy bebop, mob psycho 100, fullmetal alchemist and fullmetal alchemist brotherhood,oh yeah right and soul eater, just to name what comes to me at the top of my head)
      i personally do not know what in leadership caused things like these and it being more tame than the manga, but you do put out an intressting point
      tho depending on the reason why such things were done i still think fixing management is more important (but keep zombie land saga with mappa lol xD (okay probably not, it would fit at home with kyoto and that would help remove some strain from mappa animators but yeah))

    • @ImAlsoLonely998
      @ImAlsoLonely998 3 місяці тому +1

      @@nesraspongx58 I've watched the majority of MHA and read quite a bit of the manga and manga is way better. But now this is my theory and I'm not one of those "oH I doNt WaTcH iT bC oF tHe fAnDoM!" But I generally believe that bc the majority of the MHA fanbase is so childish and babied that they cater to them so they make MHA seem like it's for a younger audience when in the manga it's got a ton of gore and blood (especially with shiggy and more recent chapters) besides some of MHA's terrible arc writing *cough* war arc *cough* if someone else besides bones got ahold of this anime (In this situation MAPPA) then it could've been something, and most likely wouldve have the dame quality as the manga (and probably a different fanbase in general)

    • @nesraspongx58
      @nesraspongx58 3 місяці тому

      @@ImAlsoLonely998 but isn't the fanbase problem a different one from a studio problem ???
      perhaps it being animated by mappa from the very begining of the anime (esspicially if the anime started these past couple of years) COULD have changed the fanbase slightly, i think it's first arc or season could still have given us the same one, and even then won't the people who have the rights be the ones in control of how much it gets watered down the most ???
      and secondly is the director of course but i still think it's less of a studio thing but more of a general management thing, i do not know who made such decisions, if it's the rightholders then no studio change would've done anything, if it's the director then we could change him even without changing the studio, if it's the studio's management themselves then changing the studio is the solution
      and i mean, when did a studio shift change the fanbase ???
      it could def change the quality (idk how much tho if we try to assume it has the same rightsholders and timelines) but the fanbase would remain the largely the same, if i'm not mistaken back when season one of mha released mappa didn't have the same catalogue of darker shows yet, so even if we assume that was from the very begining i doubt it would've changed much

  • @Woolint
    @Woolint 3 місяці тому +27

    Horikoshi's art right now is going so crazy that I think its impossible for BONES Studios to actually make it lazy-looking.

  • @MrPinguinzz
    @MrPinguinzz 4 місяці тому +58

    Dude goes so overboard that production can't keep up

  • @skelebro9999
    @skelebro9999 4 місяці тому +232

    Look how they massacred my girl 😢

    • @ChibiReviews
      @ChibiReviews  4 місяці тому +55

      My favorite villain too

    • @skelebro9999
      @skelebro9999 4 місяці тому +7

      @@ChibiReviews oof

    • @GabeSweetMan
      @GabeSweetMan 4 місяці тому +13

      I just wanted Toga and Twice to be happy. 😢

    • @Darur1308
      @Darur1308 4 місяці тому +8

      @@ChibiReviewsthe way u pronounce “Ochako” 😭😭😭😭

    • @AppStateWaifu
      @AppStateWaifu 4 місяці тому +3

      @@ChibiReviews oof mine too. I have merch of Himiko

  • @maximnaumov11
    @maximnaumov11 4 місяці тому +22

    The same thing happened for one of Vincent’s cuts for jjks2 ep17. There wasn’t time for it, so it got nuked.

  • @AnimeNerd500
    @AnimeNerd500 4 місяці тому +38

    I have seen many people unhappy on bones, but a slight clarification, the power to make the decisions about the anime purely stays with the production committee and the studio has no say on this, The most likely scenario why this happened was because the commitee gave only one and half year to animate 25 episodes, like thats too short, And when vincent was asked to make the layout he gave his best but since the staff was still young and in experienced, his layout was destroyed completed or made drastic changes so that the animators can animate it in lesser time.

  • @spoopytiger87
    @spoopytiger87 4 місяці тому +15

    I hope you in the future talk about some of the super interesting things happening in the mha manga, instead of the issues with it. Its something ive started to see when looking at your channel, only really reviewing the negatives of the series while before you reviewed the episodes and how the chapters were going. Hope you can bring that back one day.

  • @KatsudonNoodle
    @KatsudonNoodle 3 місяці тому +17

    1:49 the animation at this part on Vincent’s part is absolutely amazing, don’t get me wrong, but in sense of MHA, it’s TOO much movement. Yes, lots of movement is good, but sometimes it’s just over the top lol. (I’m not hating or discrediting, I’m just starting my personal opinion :])

    • @WestGarbage6
      @WestGarbage6 3 місяці тому +8

      That's fair, but I really disliked how instead of the fluid camera movement from her facing the camera to the camera below her facing up, they just did a straight cut, no animation in-between, that stands out to me as the laziest decision they could've possibly made.

    • @KatsudonNoodle
      @KatsudonNoodle 3 місяці тому +2

      @@WestGarbage6 yeah, definitely. There are def things I prefer with Vincent’s original animation, like the subtle hand shaking movement for example

  • @illmatic3983
    @illmatic3983 4 місяці тому +91

    At least season 6 was heat hoping the same for 7

    • @MekeelWit
      @MekeelWit 4 місяці тому +4

      should be especially for the hype moments, they have some mob psycho staff on hand and they helped with ep 19 of season 6 mha, i believe. And that episode/fight looked soooo good.

  • @CloudyFr-r1e
    @CloudyFr-r1e 3 місяці тому +10

    “Look how they massacred my boy…😔”

  • @OwO-pw8js
    @OwO-pw8js 4 місяці тому +16

    At the time there were things going on, like you mentioned. Personally I like MHA and that scene didn't feel that bad at the time, sure it looks more lively in the original cut but we could only speculate why it wasn't finished 100%. Season 6's War ark had some of MHA best animation to date and now season 7 will probably be around the same quality. It's not unwatchable is what I'm trying to say. Vincent surely is an incredible animator and it would be nice if all these studios and decisions makers gave him and other amazing animators more time. JJK's second season was heavily nerfed and that's crazy to say considering how good the animation already is. The anime industry has some of the best animators this world has seen, with more time they could do great things.

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 4 місяці тому +1

      ur tweaking if u think S6 animation was better than 1-3.
      Also they gave Vincent a decent amount of time (then again he’s mad man when working) but it’s the ppl that clean up his work or just the core staff the finish the product that didn’t have time, the overall schedule has been not so good.

    • @OwO-pw8js
      @OwO-pw8js 4 місяці тому +3

      @@8ooty0 Season 1-3 has some of MHA peaks, yes, not denying that. Also yes, that's what I'm saying, the schedule is just not the best, but there is probably someone responsible for that.

    • @8ooty0
      @8ooty0 4 місяці тому +2

      @@OwO-pw8js honestly it whoever is making all there resources go to the unnecessary movies.
      heard there’s a new director for S7 tho so who knows what could happen

    • @OwO-pw8js
      @OwO-pw8js 4 місяці тому +2

      @@8ooty0 Yeah, movies are cool and they help with popularity but aren't necessarily needed. Interesting that it has a new director, let's see how it will turn out.

  • @Kiostu
    @Kiostu 3 місяці тому +5

    I found your video through an article and my favorite part was how you said "i want let the scene speak for itself, i want to let you see this and just like see what could have been and just how butchered it really was in the grand scheme of things. So here it is just look at this sequence ok" and then you proceed to talk the entire time throughout the entire clip.

  • @mulanomula
    @mulanomula 4 місяці тому +5

    Insane thing is, this probably only took Vincent a weekend to animate lmao we've seen him accomplish a bigger feat with a small snippet of a fate scene he did (and he did that one just for fun).

  • @k4l4ni7
    @k4l4ni7 4 місяці тому +18

    People like you are the best types of yappers

  • @Lizo361
    @Lizo361 Місяць тому +4

    Bro, he got done dirty

  • @SmotheryAxe1414
    @SmotheryAxe1414 Місяць тому +1

    really hope Vincent returns to do the culling games arc fights

  • @BeastShortsTikTok
    @BeastShortsTikTok 4 місяці тому +4

    I never even know who Vincent was or he did sukunas domain (one of my favorite moments in anime in general) but it’s sad to see his work just get slaughtered to the tinsy bits that make the finale look horrible and I don’t even watch my hero academia

  • @AppStateWaifu
    @AppStateWaifu 4 місяці тому +70

    Expectation vs Reality oof

  • @XanthumS
    @XanthumS 4 місяці тому +5

    bro really skill issued a whole studio

  • @nightlydata2181
    @nightlydata2181 4 місяці тому +1

    I knew bout the unfinished scene cus there was a tweet bout it from a jp account at the time that got a lot of attention showin the comparison & I was under the impression it was them? Unless that was Vincent? idk it was all the way back when the season aired

  • @raulojeda8567
    @raulojeda8567 4 місяці тому +3

    I actually love my villain arc season 5 was a banger the last 4 season were bangers.

  • @kansen-san
    @kansen-san 4 місяці тому +26

    kinda wondering why you made the video about this even tough it happened few years ago already

    • @TheRockerX
      @TheRockerX 4 місяці тому +12

      Because it only trended on Twitter a few days ago

    • @lucid_3938
      @lucid_3938 19 днів тому

      Right ? Especially since this happens constantly to his work since he goes over what he's been told to do 😭 it's happened in jjk a whopping tree times but I never see anyone talking about that

  • @deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813
    @deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813 3 місяці тому +4

    “Look how they massacred my boy”
    -Vincent

  • @jamesmacleod9382
    @jamesmacleod9382 4 місяці тому +5

    My guess is the director found it too off model so it could not be fit in smoothly.

    • @cwega2463
      @cwega2463 4 місяці тому

      you don’t know how anime production works do you

  • @alexcosta6552
    @alexcosta6552 3 місяці тому +5

    “Im going to let the scene speak for itself” processes to pause and speak throughout the whole scene 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @maliceart
    @maliceart 22 дні тому +4

    WE COULDVE HAD RHAT??

  • @STAAAAAAAAAAAARRRS
    @STAAAAAAAAAAAARRRS 3 місяці тому +4

    It’s a funny coincidence how many goated animators or 3D artists are French. Like they’re possessed by the ghosts of the past French artists.

  • @gabrieladernebraga9339
    @gabrieladernebraga9339 19 годин тому

    Its very sad to see the possibility that was taken away

  • @shadowmahesh9876
    @shadowmahesh9876 4 місяці тому +2

    My king Vincent Chandard!!!

  • @Doktah_Zari
    @Doktah_Zari 4 місяці тому +3

    Uncensored version when?

  • @fw.herotard
    @fw.herotard 4 місяці тому +4

    It's so frustrating... I dont know why they rush MHA so much. Its takes so much away from such an amazing series.

  • @JurraMeBoi
    @JurraMeBoi 3 місяці тому +1

    This reminds me of how i felt when i started reading the manga and season 4 was coming out. I'd felt so disappointed by the animation that it overall soured my enjoyment of the entire series

  • @crimsonx1545
    @crimsonx1545 3 місяці тому +1

    I wish I knew where to start to get better n get into animation

  • @justasinglesummon3912
    @justasinglesummon3912 4 місяці тому +12

    This is actually insane. That scène could have looked so good with the complexity of the storyboard, perspective and movement

  • @smirg2975
    @smirg2975 4 місяці тому +10

    Man I feel so bad for Vincent his cuts look so good 😭

  • @matthewdsouza1797
    @matthewdsouza1797 4 місяці тому

    This is new to me but thinking about now, it does make a lot of sense.

  • @matthewedson6639
    @matthewedson6639 21 день тому

    My Villian Academia cemented my love when I read it when it came out and when I saw they adapted into just few a episodes I did not even want to continue watching that season, season 5 was so sad.

  • @jenniezhan1627
    @jenniezhan1627 4 місяці тому +15

    This dude is literally the moist critikal of anime

  • @justsomeguywithamustache2901
    @justsomeguywithamustache2901 4 місяці тому +84

    Still hoping bones go crazy for mha s7, it's been a while since we've seen some mha sakuga 😢😢

    • @AppStateWaifu
      @AppStateWaifu 4 місяці тому +4

      Ikr. I was looking forward to it. Hoping for a JJK miracle minus the drama

    • @ronel7836
      @ronel7836 4 місяці тому +8

      The trailer for season 7 does look very promising looks better than season 6 and the movie looks damn good ( that's maybe we're half of the staff left too)

    • @il3fortunato664
      @il3fortunato664 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ronel7836 and the first four episodes are recaps... I'm just saying.

    • @anonisnoone6125
      @anonisnoone6125 4 місяці тому +1

      Ur telling me s6 didn't have any?

    • @smirg2975
      @smirg2975 4 місяці тому

      ​@@ronel7836doesn't look that promising to me 🤕

  • @dubbyplays
    @dubbyplays 4 місяці тому

    I have no words. I can only say #Justice4VincentChansard

  • @Akarapap1
    @Akarapap1 3 місяці тому +1

    Can sum1 please explain where this is from cuz i don't remember this scene in the anime

    • @Akarapap1
      @Akarapap1 3 місяці тому

      @CalliePygian new season?

    • @JayPlayz707
      @JayPlayz707 3 місяці тому

      @@Akarapap1Now that I think about it I never seen that scene either BUT the newest season of MHA is coming out this year as it’s called the ''Final War Arc''

  • @SmotheryAxe1414
    @SmotheryAxe1414 Місяць тому +3

    take notes from One Piece and JJK, just let Vincent cook.

    • @eyn1357
      @eyn1357 Місяць тому +1

      one piece has a really good staff rotation different teams on different episodes and well with jjk see how that turned out😂, vincent legit tweeted he's never working for mappa ever again along with the other animators

  • @dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos
    @dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos 4 місяці тому +25

    Looks alright to me.

    • @TheSageSpartan
      @TheSageSpartan 4 місяці тому +20

      -blind people

    • @Musashi42069
      @Musashi42069 4 місяці тому +6

      But It can be better.

    • @dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos
      @dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos 4 місяці тому

      @@TheSageSpartan Nope. That would be you.

    • @WestGarbage6
      @WestGarbage6 3 місяці тому

      Yeah, alright, but with that layout it would've been easy for them to make it into an EXCEPTIONAL scene, they fumbled the bag.

  • @Olat67
    @Olat67 3 місяці тому +1

    How did they make the unfinished animation more detailed and better than the finished animation.

  • @akshaychaudhari5171
    @akshaychaudhari5171 Місяць тому

    Damn now this is chibi most popular video beating all the old videos

  • @Xo-Kill
    @Xo-Kill 3 місяці тому +5

    Why do this Mha is such a good anime it deserves good animation

  • @zatch0507
    @zatch0507 4 місяці тому +8

    Not letting Vincent chensard cook should be a criminal offence

    • @WieldMyWord
      @WieldMyWord 4 місяці тому +2

      Not letting any animators cook is a criminal offence..

  • @DimiArt
    @DimiArt 4 місяці тому

    Vincent Did that scene with Law Vs Blackbeard too.

  • @TruxySSJ
    @TruxySSJ 4 місяці тому

    Naotoshi was always my favorite animator out of every anime I've ever seen, but after seeing the GLORIOUS work of Vincent both in this genga, in One Piece's Wano Arc and in PEAKBUYA INCIDENT Arc, I can't decide between Shida and Vincent Chansard.

  • @OfficerCrimson
    @OfficerCrimson Місяць тому +3

    Now this might just be me not having a very good eye, but these seem like very minor things, but no matter what it’s definitely not a butchering. The scene had slightly less impact but overall it’s perfectly fine.

    • @vicentecollao2288
      @vicentecollao2288 22 дні тому

      Sir, this is the internet. Everything is either a W or an L. No nuanced perspectives here.

  • @MelleyWL687
    @MelleyWL687 4 місяці тому +14

    Yeah, I was just seeing that earlier on Twitter and going, "Wait wtf?!" One Piece, JJK, MHA are so good, but the anime productions been fumbled for the latter two for a bit. Sad!

  • @Eiszahn
    @Eiszahn 3 місяці тому +1

    That guys animations are goated, shame what the studios do with it

  • @permanent8387
    @permanent8387 4 місяці тому +1

    they dont need to rush out production, they choose to rush out production

  • @Djoki1
    @Djoki1 3 місяці тому +6

    They literally removed like 75% of vincents frames.
    Holy shit...

  • @machodgdon
    @machodgdon 4 місяці тому +160

    Fumbling Vincent Chansard is crazy My Hero anime gotta go on indefinite hiatus cause Season 7 gonna be a mess

    • @AppStateWaifu
      @AppStateWaifu 4 місяці тому +19

      Weren’t they also planning on releasing another movie this summer as well? Season 5 deja vu incoming 😔

    • @milkshrekpasta
      @milkshrekpasta 4 місяці тому

      @@AppStateWaifu I was about to say

    • @dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos
      @dinosaurtimeandfunnyvideos 4 місяці тому +10

      ​@@AppStateWaifu Movie and Series are done by two different teams. Having a movie does not affect the quality of the show.

    • @anonisnoone6125
      @anonisnoone6125 4 місяці тому +11

      @@AppStateWaifuY tf do they always feel the need to release stupid, meaningless anime movies that r just a waste of money? The money they spend on the trash movies could've been spent on the show.

    • @samuelclayhills3298
      @samuelclayhills3298 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@JustinMedina-ro8du nah man if you look ypu can tell source trust me bro my mom works for bones. Truly impeccable logic right here.

  • @h4rdm3rcy65
    @h4rdm3rcy65 3 місяці тому +1

    My theory is that it took so long for Vincent to finish the layout to the point that the animators have to rush it?

  • @Azertrl
    @Azertrl 2 місяці тому

    wow the unfinished part is so insane, sad to see that

  • @keno4770
    @keno4770 4 місяці тому +14

    Vincent Chansard has repeatedly emphasized that the staff were working to the bare end to complete it and simply couldn’t because of how long and complicated it was and the extreme production issues season 5 faced in its later half. I don’t understand the point of these videos that try and make it seem as if the Bones MHA staff is somehow “ruining” the freelancers’ work bc y’all just end up blatantly blurting out misinformation to get some quick clout instead of actually doing the research.

  • @boshii_
    @boshii_ 3 місяці тому +3

    ofc the guy talking about anime sounds like a nerd 💀

    • @Glockakuri-Sama
      @Glockakuri-Sama 3 місяці тому +3

      proceed to spread thy gluteus maximas 😭🙏🙏 My consciousness best not capture your presence in one of my feedback

    • @Truth_chan_studio
      @Truth_chan_studio 3 місяці тому

      Then ?

    • @lucid_3938
      @lucid_3938 19 днів тому

      Why did you watch this video ?

  • @gambious
    @gambious 2 місяці тому +2

    I think the original version was a little too busy to be honest. I’ve heard it referred to as “forced animation.” It’s visual pollution when there’s too much pointless movement and blur and shapes. The hand shaking would have been nice, but other than that, the final cut shows you everything you need to see.

  • @JohnboyTheGamer
    @JohnboyTheGamer 4 місяці тому

    So I have seen the sakuga for this, but didn't know the animator behind it. I feel like I was made aware of it from you, however knowing who made the animation is new for me.

  • @monstiesrider1748
    @monstiesrider1748 2 місяці тому +6

    I like to point out the hand movements are not the same between toga and sukuna. Sukuna actually made a sign with hands and toga only touch her fingers together. Toga is using uraraka power so she has to touch her fingers together. So saying there the same is an idiot move. Sorry I don’t mean to hate on you, it’s just saying they were the same really irritated me.

  • @clivedoe9674
    @clivedoe9674 4 місяці тому +21

    The MHA manga started being rushed, which decreased the quality. Then this happened to the anime.
    It's kinda sad actually.

    • @gumi_twylit2605
      @gumi_twylit2605 4 місяці тому +2

      kinda is an understatement... it is depressingly sad

  • @brisoatisuto9795
    @brisoatisuto9795 3 місяці тому +1

    Why dont they just release the full thing in a blu-ray

  • @itzhazael
    @itzhazael Місяць тому +1

    he cooked so hard they couldn’t keep up

  • @idkdawg8824
    @idkdawg8824 Місяць тому

    ngl i wanna see Vincent Chansard animated jjba part 7😭🙏

  • @seeq8959
    @seeq8959 4 місяці тому +1

    Vincent too good, they can't keep up

  • @Tboy6454
    @Tboy6454 3 місяці тому +1

    The amount of yap kaisen this guy produces is crazy

  • @MemeScreen
    @MemeScreen 4 місяці тому

    Why don’t they fix it on the Blu-ray?!

  • @sarmadhabibkhan3036
    @sarmadhabibkhan3036 3 місяці тому +1

    My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

  • @illustroban
    @illustroban 4 місяці тому +1

    Still no better environment and increase payment

  • @PedroHenrique-tn2wg
    @PedroHenrique-tn2wg Місяць тому

    As an animator this hurts more than it should

  • @Hawkborat
    @Hawkborat 3 місяці тому +1

    Pretty much none of the rest of my hero has that high quality of animation from what I remember, would have been absolutely sick to see My Hero with this kind of animation but I think it was just him being amazing next to the rest of the studio. My guess is a mix of director not agreeing and the animators not being able to keep up with that level of animation.

  • @Rob_Boss99
    @Rob_Boss99 4 місяці тому

    Is there a term for an animatic thats super close to just an uncolored animation? Because that's so much more than just an animatic. Which makes it so much worse that it got screwed over...

  • @leori-7477
    @leori-7477 Місяць тому +1

    i don’t watch recent my hero, but seeing it from this video here: ‘massacred’? for real? like yeah sure, they didn’t do all that crazy wild stuff the super good animator added, but the shot that made it into the anime was *fine*.

  • @cheevvie8479
    @cheevvie8479 Місяць тому

    loved this part, but i probably would have loved it much more if it was made like that! didnt know!

  • @justasinglesummon3912
    @justasinglesummon3912 4 місяці тому

    The finger stuff is atulctually very different. Different perspective and different finger form and volume.

  • @guillehdz
    @guillehdz 4 місяці тому

    Man, Vincent is G, his work looks amazing

  • @keshi5541
    @keshi5541 4 місяці тому +1

    His version looks so hype.

  • @AgainItsMeEri
    @AgainItsMeEri 3 місяці тому

    'How amazing would this episode of jjk season 2 would would have been if they were given even more time' we just found out and wow... The amount of stuff they cut out was insane. Let these animators create some crazy animation without time pressure!

  • @Abdrei69
    @Abdrei69 3 місяці тому

    0:12 is absolute cinema
    God damn tho, they trolled Vincent so hard

  • @cheez313
    @cheez313 3 місяці тому

    3:20 even i wouldnt mess up someones name as bad as this😭😭