I really enjoy your channel, but I was disappointed that you invoked the “ white dudes” line about sunscreen. I like the evidence-based nature of your channel - the gender and skin colour of the people formulating products is irrelevant to me
It’s extremely relevant when a. formulators test products on themselves during development b. it’s an industry that’s been dominated for decades by the idea that their female target market doesn’t care about science and just want pseudoscientific hopes and dreams. The number of times I’ve been told by brands and PR agencies to “dumb down” my content over the last decade because “no one cares about that boring science stuff” - my channel shouldn't have to exist. And the disdain a lot of industry people have for their customers is plainly obvious when you go to a cosmetics conference and talk to some of the people there. This translates to the products that get released. There is boatloads of evidence for the importance of representation, even if you choose to believe the world is gender- and colourblind. See also foundation shade ranges, the men who designed pink tampon removing gloves… Do you think someone who doesn't drive and thinks drivers are gullible would design a better car?
But it's important to take it into consideration. If it's mostly men formulating sunscreens for a mostly female demographic, they may not think that women would put on makeup after sunscreen and how the makeup affects it (as an example). And if they are white, they also may not think on how the sunscreen will look on a darker skin tone and leave a white cast.
I literally just wrote this in another comment before I saw this! "I’m scarred from the time I complained about a “daily sunscreen” balling up, and the male formulator told me I should just use it without makeup. I also once toured a cosmetic facility and the engineer showing me around directed all explanations to my then-boyfriend, who was just there to kill time 🤷🏻♀️ It’s an endemic problem!"
I absolutely hear what you're saying - science is supposed to be objective, it's not supposed to fall prey to societal biases - but the unfortunate reality is that *how* science is done is often influenced by *who* is doing it. Implicit bias can manifest at every stage of the scientific process, from the type of research questions we want to explore (and fund), to our test subjects and if they adequately represent our population's sociecononic/gender/race/sex/etc. diversity, to how and with who we share our scientific conclusions. A classic example of this is heart attacks in women - women have different symptoms, different onset, and were oftener misdiagnosed (and died!) because the majority of the previous research on heart attacks was done on men, by men. Skincare formulation is the less ... serious example, but the same biases operate.
ikr its so cringe hearing her say " a bunch of white dudes" imagine if she said "a bunch of black dudes". Being racist towards white people is cool nowadays and you dont get any backlash for it. i unsubbed after hearing that ngl and no im not even white
Worst myth? That oily skin doesn't need moisturiser. So many formulas sit badly on oily skin that I believed the whole category was not formulated for oily skin!
Ugh yes! That one got me too. Although to be fair I still skip moisturiser most of the year without issues... but I use lots of humectant-rich products and live in a humid climate!
Sebum isn't great at trapping water, so it only acts as an emollient - you may still need occlusives and humectants to help your skin hold onto more water. I have a long explanation here: ua-cam.com/video/vwpvk9l10zc/v-deo.html
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience this makes me feel a lot better about not moisturising everyday day and night, thank you! I live in Brisbane so most of what I put on my face slides off anyway. However I use SPF and retinol that are both quite moisturising, and at least once a week I use the Ella Bache Hydra extreme plumping mask which is like a big drink of water for my skin.
Yes! I only use my acne wash once a day or once every other day. I had a friend that was really struggling with adult acne and she even got a very fancy and expensive skincare line to help clear it up, but it seemed to only be getting worse. I suggested using a gentle cleanser and moisturizer at night and within a month her skin cleared up.
@@alexterieur8813 It's okay if you remove your makeup, but for cleaning out face dirt, it can be not, cause it doesn't remove as much dirt as the face wash and it can overdry your skin. The best combo is micellar water for makeup + face wash + moisturizer.
People talk about nature as though it's some cosy blanket that evil people want us to ignore foe insidious reasons. On the other hand, deadly nightshade, rat poo, bubonic plague, tetanus, lightning, hurricanes, wasps, and large spiders and scorpions are all completely natural
As yes, the walnut scrub. Pretty much most folks are like those are better used on your feet and other dry scaly areas of your body but please don't use them on the face.
Worst myth: More is always better. When I first got into skincare, I used way too many products and it was too much for my face. Now I have a two-step morning routine, five-step evening routine, and mask once a week. My face is much happier now
@@randomly_alina7627 no problem! I use klairs vitamin c in the morning, then follow up with spf 50 Australian Gold sunscreen on my face and spf 15 beauty by earth lip balm on my lips (I guess that’s kind of 3 steps, but I count spf application as one step!). Then in the evening I double cleanse with inkey list oat cleansing balm and CeraVe hydrating cleanser, then go in with The Ordinary buffet (peptides), then La Roche Posay adapalene (strong retinoid), then CeraVe PM moisturizer. Once a week I use the Ordinary AHA BHA peeling solution. When I do that I just double cleanse, skip the peptides and adapalene, and really slather on the moisturizer
@Cait Rose Co Thank you! I'm always interested in whatever people are doing my skincare is really scaled down these days and I'm just starting to look into Ahas and Bhas. So, this is really helpful. Thanks again!
i truly believe that unfollowing skin care influencers and cutting back my skin care to a more simple routine helped my skin the most. checking in with my skin in the evening and seeing what it needs and going from there is just so much more managable than overdoing it daily
When I first got into skincare, it was at the height of the "10-Step Korean Skincare" craze. I ended up wasting a lot of money on stuff that I didn't even need, trying to achieve that "glass skin" bs. It turns out my skin would be happier with, like, 3 or 4 products max.
I think it was also presented as “you need all 10 of these steps every time you wash your face” when honestly you would be better off tailoring what you use. Having an exfoliating step doesn’t mean I need to use it every time, for example.
Agreed! No one in Korea ever did the ten step program - it was just that there were many different products that people were recommended to use according to their issues but western media just combined it 🤣 so stupid looking back now
The worst myth has to be that sunscreen is not necessary in winter. The drugstores here in the Netherlands hardly sell it now we're getting into winter, as if finding a good sunscreen wasn't hard enough!
Hahaha yes the Kruidvat sunscreen section becomes the scented candles section in the winter 😂 go try Eucerin Oil Control spf50!!! It’s amazing! You have to spread it quickly because when it dries it can start to pill, but it’s zekerweten the most transparent/seemless sunscreen I’ve ever tried. It even has less shine than La Roche Posay Shaka Fluid. (That’s my number 2)
I don't know if people say this in other countries, but I always heard things like "if it stings it's because it's working" or "you have to suffer to be beautiful" while growing up. Learning to be gentle with my skin instead of just piling harsh cleansers, physical exfoliants, salycilic acid and differin was the best thing I did for my skin.
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience @Lab Muffin Beauty Science I know this is off topic, but are you familiar with colloidal silver as a skin care ingredient for acne? I have started using silver soap and gel on my face, and I have completely eradicated my acne. This is a controversial ingredient, especially for ingestion, but I get conflicting information about its use topically. Long term ingestion of large amounts can cause a bluing of the skin (argyria). You could do a video about whether or not topical silver will permanently stain the skin over time. I love this stuff, but I am afraid what will happen if I use it over the span of years. Even more confusing is that ionic silver is different than colloidal silver, but still used to kill germs. Your science background may be useful here. I know the luxury skin care line Omorovicza uses silver.
As a black woman, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about with the white cast from sunscreen. I started getting the tinted sunscreens from Morphe but not sure they are good. They do look nice on my skin because I have a lot of golden undertones. That some people took your comment about "white dudes" not listening to what customers need is NOT racist and shouldn't be seen as racist. It's up to women to define what is beautiful and take control of their health. This can only be done by being educated about what's in these products; what does and does not work. I'm grateful for your channel.
Oh I don’t think the majority of them have a clue, sunscreen is pretty racist! I helped a black lady once at a Boots (UK) she was looking for a sunscreen that wouldn’t give her a white cast. The male shop assistant had no clue. I recommended the LRP Anthelios but also told her to check out Evy technology, my all time favourite sunscreen ❤ also told her about a black Instagram user that tests sunscreens & white cast. (Can’t remember his name now)
racist comments depict a harmful, derogatory, and often false stereotype. what she said about white dudes often being clueless when it comes to what women of color need and for that reason they shouldn’t be in charge of that is entirely true. it’s not a stereotype, it’s a trend. saying white dudes are all stupid and lack empathy is a stereotype, and a racist comment, but what she pointed out is based on experiences and evidence, and she didn’t attack them for not knowing, but rather for having the arrogance to assert they should get to choose anyways. it’s more harmful to pretend it doesn’t happen and let the ignorance and neglect continue than to hurt a few white dudes’ inflated egos for systemic and social equality.
Wow, just read the comments. I didn’t interpret the “white dudes” comment as racist. It resonated because I have worked for years in organizations where the majority of decision makers were white, middle age men. I have had a lot of health issues lately. I thought I was sensitive to medication until a female doctor pointed out the actual problem. I understand that her statement “white dudes” as shorthand for all of her years of frustration for the prevailing attitude driving the creation of products.
Except “white dudes” haven’t historically been executives at every major cosmetics company. If executives “of color” were key to formulating cosmetically acceptable sunscreens, then Shiseido or Kanebo or Bioré would have been offering imperceptible-on-skin formulas decades ago (which they weren’t). Also, most “white dudes” don’t wear foundation, mascara, eyeshadow, or lip gloss, yet that hasn’t stopped white-dude-helmed cosmetic companies from developing cult, tried-and-true products in those areas. Any cosmetics executive seeking to maximize profit would place their customers’ needs, priorities, and desires over their own. The reality is that scientific study on photo-aging is, in the grand scheme of things, newly pioneered territory; by consequence, so is the development of advanced sun-protection formulas. In any case, her theory is unarguably meritless.
Agreed, however this reality is shockingly still not widely known and her comment could have provided more educational context so it would show how and why “white dudes” making these decisions tend to lead to exclusion or ineffective products
@@dear_totheheart it's also a problem when people don't choose to educate themselves on the subject yet still feels the need to "called her out" even if her comment was not incorrect. The first woman to be recognized as a cosmetic scientist happened in 1988 so highly doubt there was many women out there working on cosmetic formulas until recently. Also, her channel is about debunking myths about skin care products so if people want to discuss stereotypes and language then they would do well to educate themselves on the subject matter before starting any discussions where they have no relevant knowledges but all the opinions.
@@readinggeorgeeliot1489 That's all well and good yet is not helpful or practical. Education starts by being willing to learn and also understand that others may be receptive and open yet will be shut down and tune out your perspective when they encounter bias, discrimination, and disrespect. Your attitude shuts down the very such learning and understanding needed by assuming that every person will have the same mindset, knowledge base, or perspective you do or to take the time to thoroughly research which is not required for engaging in a discussion, though ideal yet not realistic to expect. She's not wrong but the delivery was and is alienating and discriminatory instead of taking a moment to provide further context or clarity on the subject to bring her audience to share and understand her perspective
Doesnt matter, its still racist. If black people were in charge of sunscreen and as a result put out products with lower strength because it worked for them, you wouldnt want everyone bashing black people for not getting sunscreen right. Most people dont have intense skin issues. That goes for every race regardless of gender. Blaming an entire group of people being a problem just because you fall into a minority of people that can't handle normal sunscreen is prejudiced. I dont care what the statistics say about white men in cosmetics. Its irrelevant.
I am regularly amazed at how demented people get about skin care. I’m an old person so I come to skin care with dedication but some basic common sense. The number of acids, peels, and cleaning gadgets people use daily to “get the dead skin cells off” makes me go 😳. Now everyone seems to sensitive skin and they don’t know why!
Agreed. I had a horrible allergic reaction to a "homemade" diy mask when i was 15, a day before "picture day" at school 😂 it was awful n since then i feel like my skin has always been awful (turning 30 soon) honestly i just use a plain gentle olive bar soap now.. And sometimes a plain salicylic acid face wash just on days when i tend to break out before my cycle. Only recently gotten a nice sunscreen that agrees with me n i just need a nice moisturiser that does justice too now.
For the past few years I worked for a brand that claimed to be "simple" skincare. We had 2 exfoliating masks, an exfoliating cleanser, acid serum, acid lotion, 10% glycolic pads and a salicylic gel. Pair this with staff who would happily tell people they could use multiple products, and strong products daily, just to get a bigger sale, and its no surprise people are ruining their skin. So many products on the open market that should have stayed in a dermatologists office.
People need to talk about this more because a lot of "beauty gurus" suggest exfoliating and the moment I did it my skin broke out SO bad. Everyone's skin is different. Not everyone needs the exact same routine.
depends what type of exfoliation. If you mean chemican because you used glycolic acid then you are not suppose to use glycolic acid above 5%-5.5% if you have brown, dark, sensitive or dry skin... and even then, lacic acid is more recomended for those skin tones and types
I agree with this one as someone living in an underdeveloped asian country. Almost 80% of the products I have seen just include like 4 to 5 ingredients and then those products claim to have the most 'clean' and 'all natural non-toxic' beauty when in reality they literally pack these products with horrendous amounts of fragrance, irritating preservatives etc.
@@catvalentine4317 Definitely not! To make it very simple: If someone says they are going to do something with eggs, flour and sugar you can't say for sure what the end result will be. Pancakes, a cake, muffins, bread? etc. Depending on how these ingredients are mixed or processed you'll get a different result like a pancake or a cake. An ingredient list isn’t going to tell you how a product was processed and manufactured. It doesn’t tell you what equipment was used. It doesn’t tell you if they waited or not for the formula to cool to 40 degrees Celsius before adding in the preservative or temperature-sensitive ingredients and so on. An ingredient list in skin care doesn't give you percentages. So product A could have: 70% flour, 20% eggs and 10% sugar while product B could have 90% flour, 7% eggs and 3% sugar. Both ingredient lists would read: flour, eggs, sugar. Yet I think you get that there is a stark difference between product A and B. Also some ingredients have different versions (for example different molecular weights)but they all have the same name. So in our example you could say that spelt flour and rye flour are both called flour on the ingredient list.
Worst myth: you need to exfoliate every day. My fine skin on my cheeks are still healing, 5 years after I switched cleansing routine. It might never heal completely...
I also learnt the hard way that exfoliating every day was an awful choice of my skin, destroyed my moisture barrier and caused cystic acne and inflammation. Vaseline all over my face at night was honestly the only way my skin recovered, felt gross but it certainly did the job. Rinse it off in the morning and it shouldn’t cause any acne/blocked pores. Another lesson I learnt from this was that when your skin is sensitive/recovering only cleansing (with a really gentle/hydrating one) in the evening can be a good idea, when your skin is recovering you can end up washing away the natural oils that the exfoliating destroyed which prevents your skin from ever fixing its moisture barrier. There are some cleansing waters you can use or just use regular tap water, perhaps a calming toner and whatever moisturiser+sunscreen you find suitable for the day. It’s awful what misleading skincare advice can result in (and it’s even worse when some skincare companies themselves are pushing the misinformation for profit) but hopefully your skin recovers, otherwise it’d definitely be worth seeing a dermatologist for personalised advice - I saw one myself and that’s who gave me the advice to use Vaseline. While a dermatologist can be expensive I wasted a lot of money on moisturisers beforehand to no avail, sometimes it’ll turn out cheaper in the long run to go straight to a professional than try resolving it alone.
@@Sanakudou Thank you. I found answers myself (here in Norway you have to be referred to a dermatologist by your gp). For a long time I used a really gentle cleanser, no actives and moisturiser for sensitive skin (and SPF). It’s been 5 years, and some of the broken veins and red patches have disappeared, but not all. I have combination/dry skin, so I’m lucky to not have to deal with severe acne on top of this. I’m sorry you had to go through it, but glad you got the help!
Learning to be respectful with my skin barrier has been the most important lesson to me. My skin was not sensitive but it became way more reactive after trying to go 100% "natural", and then trying to fix that mistake with too many actives just made it worse. It's better doing less of the right products but having happy skin, than going crazy and adding a million things and struggle with irritation, inflammation, etc. I also think that exfoliating products are overrated, overused and, for the most part, unnecessary.
When I was a teen, my parents bought me Noxema for my teenage acne. My dad convinced me that the tingle/burn was good actually because it meant it was killing the acne. I believed that for quite a while 😂
Same but my dad would put toothpaste all over my face to get rid of acne. It burned so badly but he said that means it's "killing the acne." I got chemical burns from that and still had acne for years afterwards 😭😭😭
When I was a teen-ager back in the 1960s the only things available for oily skin or acne were Noxema, Bonne Bell Ten-O-Six lotion and Clearasil. None of these were strong enough for me! If only they had Accutane and Proactiv in the early 1960s!
This clear definition of irritation probably would have saved me a lot of time. I always thought having a reaction to a product meant that I would have some kind of a poison-ivy-like rash. So I kept using, for example, adapalene every day or glycolic acid twice a day, and thinking why are these great ingredients not improving my acne? It took a while to notice, but my acne was getting gradually worse and my skin was stinging and becoming sensitized to products that it was fine with before. But it _looked_ exactly the same, no rashy red patches, just my normal skin tone with acne, so I thought my skin was tolerating things that it actually wasn’t.
I relate to this so much. I just couldnt understand why my skin kept getting worse even when I had been prescribed Tretinoin. I was using it and washing my face with 2% BHA and 10% benzyl peroxide EVERYDAY and even sometimes using an AHA moisturizer wondering why my acne wouldnt go away 🤦🏻♀️
I was always afraid of overly exfoliating and using retinol because everyone always warned about destroying your barrier. Turns out exfoliating twice a day and using Adapalene is the only way to keep my acne away and it's the "gentle" acids that destroy my skin like azelaic acid. You just gotta hydrate strongly and avoid your dry areas.
Yeah it’s absurd myth. I tolerate retin a in winter all due to Vaseline. After retin a I just slather Vaseline all over face just avoiding nose as I hv large pores on nose.
@@rics1883 I love Vaseline too. But be careful, I saw a video about slugging (putting an occlusive or a lot of moisturizer on your face), it’s great but it can intensify the amount of product you put on your skin for example if you put retin a before Vaseline.
I've been using 100% white petrolatum vaseline on my lips for 2 straight years, night and day with dermatologist recommendation. I still have dry, flaky, burning chapped lips with no remedy. I have bouts of cheilitis on the corners of my mouth occasionally as well and I've found nothing to help either problem. The vaseline also causes pimples to form on my lipline and even on my lips due to vaseline overuse. So yes, it can cause irritation. I've tried vaseline around my eyes too and I break out in whiteheads there. I'm 46 and I never thought I'd be dealing with these issues lol. Frustrating.
@@kristine1495 Hey! I'm not sure if this will help, but there's a video by Dr Eric Berg that speaks about chronic flaky lips, especially in the corners of the mouth. Hope you get better soon!
Gentle face wash once a day (usually during the night) is more effective on oily skin types than people think it would be. Don't be scared to try it for a week, it does help with oil control for a lot of ppl.
I have oily, acne-prone skin and I also attest to this. I use a gentle cleanser only at night and just wash with water in the morning. It really helped lessen the oiliness. I now rarely use my oil-blotting papers.
This is so true! I used to strip my face with glycolic cleansers twice a day, and used an enzyme exfoliant daily to deal with the peeling. I now use a gentle cleanser once or twice a day, and use glycolic only once a week. The best thing I added was a humidifier at my bed side!
Worst myth is that more is better. Even MDs (and I am one, but not a dermatologist) argue with me that tret should be daily and that additional exfoliation or rest days are unneeded. Listening to your videos over the pandemic when I really started to think about my skin and develop a routine (pretty haphazard before that) I have learned to listen to my skin and to develop routines adaptable to the season and my skin changes. Tret has been a game changer (but I am glad I started it at 0.025 because even that every third night gave me scary peeling for which LP cica was invaluable--but now after almost two years I am at 0.1 with no irritation 5/7 nights and my skin looks like it did 25 years ago (I am almost 70 and had great skin I until 45). I use gentle exfoliation (mandelic or lactic acid) and a soothing moisturizing overnight mask wed and sat nights. My skin tolerates vitamin c (any kind) well so I use that daily in the morning. Recently I tried a new niacinamide at 10% which was great for a few days and then even water hurt 🤕. But I saw what it was happening. Stopped it. Had three simple barrier support days and gave the 10% niacinamide away. I waited a long time to try 5% again, but miraculously 5% was still fine. There is a sweet spot for most products and we need to find it. Now that I am up to 0.1 tret, I plan to see if my gains continue if I slowly reduce from 5/7 days to 1/3 long run, since I plan to continue tret forever. Thanks for your always helpful discussions.
@@lelagermanin8410 luckily skin is always renewing, using something that is soothing and also useful for acne like azelaic acid has been really useful to me when I have overused actives. That and barrier repair. I like lrp cicaplast baume b5 (but I have dry skin) but anything with ceramides. I don't know where you live but Byoma is a gentle budget line where each step has barrier repair ingredients. They have an acne line. I am aggressive with tret but actually very cautious with exfoliating acids, usually using something mild like lactic acid. Frustrating as it is when there is a problem I find it helps to simplify the routine and focus on healing until skin is back to normal
The myth I bought into for awhile was that there were ingredients (ie vit c) that NEEDED to be in your skincare routine. Now I’m realizing that the only real rule is to listen to your skin and use what works for you
I really appreciate how fast you get to the point and keep going. And also that you don't talk slowly. I usually zone out during videos (even super interesting ones!) but yours are awesome! So thank you :D
Myth: I can get a “base” tan and then I don’t have to worry about a burn and getting damage. 😅 I now use LA ROCHE-POSAY spf 60 every day and reapply when needed… working on being consistent with that part. 😎
I am sad about sunscreen - there are some ppl who just don't have the money to get the more comfortable sunscreens for the face. I ask for a tube for Christmas or my bday as I cannot afford the ones that don't irrate and are comfortable normally.
Yeahhh, absolutely. This is why we BEG for cheaper yet effective sunscreens, that is possible, because for many years I have found a sunscreen that works for me and under less that what I am allowed to spend, so happy for that! I also believe that you'll find your holy grail sunscreen ❤️
I just wonder, if you don't mind me asking: what sinscreens have you tried that did not work well for you? I may have a list of suggestions you may try. :)
I am in the eu and all the creams that are comfortable, that I have been able to try, and don't irritate my skin are pricey. I have ones I can use and are good but I literally have problems affording them. I also cannot afford to try out loads of different suncreams as they cost money I don't have.
All of these! Another myth is that we can expect quick results. Took me 6 months to see the amazing results of tretinoin on my acne. Glad i didnt stop after 1 month.
The worst myth I believed was that I should avoid products with oil in them otherwise they'll make me break out worse. Now I rub oil into my skin almost every day, and it feels so nice, definitely doesn't cause me to break out. ^^
I've loved your videos for a little while. This one particularly impresses me because you didn't make it unnecessarily long. You didn't even stretch it to 10 minutes for extra advertising. This means when I click on one of your longer videos I know it's gonna be packed with information and not a 5 minute video dragged out to 25. Keep spreading science! Thankyou :)
I'm kinda worried to see these days a lot of skinfluencers (even certified dermatologists) recommending to exfoliate three, four times a week. I feel like it's too much, especially since their targets are mostly teenagers. I exfoliate twice a week, and even then I make sure to let a few days in between (also because I use The Ordinary red peeling, which is quite aggressive so I also make sure to use a gentler exfoliant for the second time). But honestly, I could do with once a week. Over-exfoliating can do huge damages to the skin, and it worries me that people are so cavalier with that.
@@sunsundks3891 Sure, teenage skins are more resilient since their skin cells renewal is more efficient, but that's why I think it's dangerous. Cause they pick up bad habits, but since they don't see the effects immediately they don't see the harm. In the long run, they could permanently damage their skins and be none the wiser - or worse, keep doing these harmful habits. But one day, once they get older the damages are going to come back tenfold, and it's gonna be much harder - maybe impossible - to reverse them. It's the tanning problem all over again.
@@db-gb5xi It's Dr. Shereene Idriss. To be fair, I don't think she's bad at her job, and she does change these numbers according to what types of exfoliants are used - but still, I feel like these numbers are still too high. She just posted a video about exfoliants if you're interested. It's very informative, and the only flaw I can see is how many times she recommends to exfoliate.
@@Elrewin59 I've seen some of her videos and I've even referred folks to her vit c video but yes, most derms when it comes to physical exfoliation especially advise maybe once no more than twice a week since they tend to favor chemical ones. Obviously, people have different skin and different issues but it's important for people to understand that and treat their skin accordingly which not everyone does and can run into problems.
To add to your point of using too many different actives all over your face, target your actives to the parts that need it. My combo skin is fussy and the dry parts hate niacinamide but the oily parts love it so I only use it on the oily parts where it works. My cheeks are acne prone so I use salicylic acid there to help with my breakouts because it doesn't dry my cheeks out like niacinamide does. I could use salicylic acid all over but there's no point because I'm not dry and acne prone where I use the niacinamide. Ever since I started doing that, my skin has calmed down quite a lot and is much more manageable.
I am always very careful about the products that I am using for my skin, but that was the first time when i believed that exfoliating myth and purchased paula's choice bha. that ruined my skin and i really don't have the sensitive skin. my face was burning legit for a week and it was so dry ( my skin type is oily like VERY oily). Honestly, i was so excited to try that product but that was not for me at all and now i am really scared to try another exfoliating product. for me the worst myth is going with the EVERYONE LOVES THIS PRODUCT products. Thank you for this video as always!
The skincare UA-cam skewed my sense of skincare so badly when i first got into it. Every new thing was a must and a ride or die. But everyone should have a routine that fits to their skintypes and needs. I was young and naive so i jumped on trends quickly. Recently i realized that since I'm eurasian i must be taking care of my skin in the eurasian way not the american way. I finally got to meet my skin again and sorted my priorities. My living conditions and the climate too. I educated myself enough to see what ingredients my skin reacts to whether positive or negative. I trained myself to not splurge on anything new because it was cute or shiny. Yeah imma stop rambling and thank you for this lovely video.
I believed in the myth that to get rid of the oil on my face, I needed a harsh cleanser. I got one my dermatologist recommended and I remember it smelled really strong. It completely dried out my face and in hindsight I don't think it was good for my skin. The same dermatologist also recommended getting more sun exposure on my back to help with my back acne. And isn't that also a myth?
At least for me sun exposure does not help. It just leaves darker marks afterwards. But i have a bit darker skin than Michelle and sometimes react photoallergic to some ingredients. Maybe that caused my skin to react even without any products
I used to hate sunscreen when I was younger. All of them felt greasy and made me uncomfortable. It's been a couple years since I discovered the fluid one from Isdin that has no oil in the formula and I love it!
Awesome video! Definitely agree with the high concentrations not being all that great. They can be so irritating and can worsen your skin and PIH. The three night cycle is a great idea, I’ll definitely try that!
Absolutely. Whenever I use hard-working and expensive products day after day, my skin comes out in red blotches, lumpy bits and crusty bits. When I leave my skin alone and just apply a moisturising lotion rather than a skin cream, my skin settles down. The particular skin lotion I enjoy using even has parabens in it, which seem to do no harm!
Another thing that I found out is a myth: eyecreams are the only creams for the eyes/only eye creams are safe around the eyes. I was dealing with red, flaky, stinging skin around my eyes. I thought I couldn't put my face moisturizer around my eyes, so I went and got this tiny little pot of product marketed as an eye cream, and _holy shit_ it hurt! It was scented, so that's probably why, but honestly I have no idea why you'd put fragrance in such a generally sensitive area. The face moisturizer my mom was using ended up being the thing that fixed it, and it's now one of my holy grails. Eye creams seem to be a bit of a scam a lot of the time. There's not a huge difference between eye creams and normal moisturisers a lot of the time, unless there are specific actives in it for anti-aging or de-puffing effects.
A number of derms say the same thing about eye cream being unnecessary. They say you can use your regular moisturizer or if you want to use one look for ingredients like caffeine or ingredients you would find in some eye pads like the derma e and the skyn hydro cool gels or good molecules eye patches or just use the eye pads. But people like the feeling and some swear they actually work for them. But yes, fragrance in eye cream is dumb. The only other eye product that derms will recommend is a retinol eye cream as it's a weaker strength than your regular retinol.
personally I had to completely stop eyecream because my eyes are way too sensitive, i can’t put any makeup, oil or cream around them for a week and expect them to not react badly
Same. All the eye creams I've used were utter trash and irritated my under eye area. But I kept using them because people told me that only eye cream is safe and that regular face cream is too harsh. One day I ended up using my face cream on my eyes anyway and it solved all my problems
@@nahbirdie4773 La Roche Posay Toleriane Ultra Cream. It's formulated for very sensitive and irritated skin, which I think is what made it so great for around my eyes. It's also been really great for any areas where I've experienced product irritation. I think the ingredient that has made it so nice is Acetyl Dipeptide-1 Cetyl Ester, aka Calmosensine. INCI Decoder's detail page on it says this: "A soothing dipeptide (tyrosine + arginine) based molecule that functions as a "messenger of tranquility and muscle relaxation". It works via stimulating the skin nerve cells to release met-enkephalin, which is an opioid (i.e. relaxing, pain-relieving) messenger molecule. This means that Acetyl Dipeptide-1 Cetyl Ester can "signal" our skin cells to "relax" and it can instantly decrease skin irritations coming from heat, chemical stinging or mechanical stresses. It is also claimed to be able to prevent the onset of wrinkles and expression lines thanks to its muscle relaxation properties." It's a pricier one, but such a tiny but is needed for use around the eyes, so it lasts forever.
Unfortunately the best sunscreen out of all the sunscreens I’ve tried over the past 4 months are the most expensive. Elta MD UV clear tinted is the absolute best one I’ve used but it’s freaking $40! But considering how much money I’ve spent on other sunscreens that didn’t work at all, it doesn’t seem so bad now lol Paulas Choice Daily Wrinkle Defense is also #2 on the list as it’s the only mineral sunscreen I’ve tried that doesn’t break me out. It is a bit pink on me tho
I totally agree! I wish sunscreens were cheaper but the nicer ones are the more expensive ones, which makes sense. I try to save money by sticking with drugstore skincare products and spend more on sunscreens. I'm using the La-Roche Possay ultra fluid SPF 50, which is more expensive than "drugstore" sunscreens but not too much. They just came out with a "body" version, which is the exact ingredients with the "face" version but 3 times bigger 😎😎😎. Drugstore skincare products surprisingly serve me so well that I don't even bother going back to the fancy stuff I've used before!
Does the low pH of a cleanser truly matter, even if the cleanser contains very gentle surfactants? Does it matter if you're using products directly after cleansing that are more acidic? This is a trendy myth, but I believed that everyone needed a 10+ step skincare routine. Thankfully, I recognized that I was wrecking my skin barrier before my face completely fell off, and gave my skin a break for a while. It was at that point that I finally focused on what was best for my skin, rather than what some skincare influencer recommended.
Common sense is great, but a lot of things in life are counterintuitive! Especially with science!! Thank you so much for these videos that are useful, critical, and real 😮💨 ❤️
Ive been using bar soap for the last three years. I have sensitive skin and I used to get back acne. Since Ive switched to soap I havent had almost any back acne and I dont have to moisturize as much. My skin has been SOOO much happier. All the research Ive tried to do says body wash is better for sensitive skin but I dont think I could ever go back. Kudos on telling people to listen to their body. It sounds so simple but soooo many people dont do it.
Worst Myth: Sunscreen are not for kids and not for Daily use, only people having Skin Issues use If this Myth didn't existed, I would have started wearing sunscreen way back
It's the reason I've worn sunscreen since I was a kid. Too bad the USA is horrible and the sunscreens have me a horrible allergy. I can only use them from overseas.
I’ve been using natural skin care products for years and they irritated my skin and dried it out to much. Was also getting follicalitis. Now I use much better products but definitely not natural and my skin has been amazing.
I was wondering if using tretenoin 3 times a week was enough to get anti-aging benefits. Have studies confirmed this ? Also, is washing your face only at night better for dry skin due to tretenoin? Great video by the way. Short to the point!
Just found this wonderful channel, there are so many scams, lies, and psuedoscience in this industry it can be so overwhelming and confusing, thank you for this!
I've been using Biore Watery Essence Sunscreen (thanks to your channel's constant validation of the brand) since I am on the oily side and my skin has been happy all this time (not that reddish anymore). I get pimples at times but not really bothering at all. Though it's just weird that my breakouts would be lesser when I do skincare plus makeup than skincare alone.
Misch I wear sunscreen daily for 26 years. I am 47 and most people think I am 31-32. I am doing well darling, still serving face daily after all these years.
Worst myth: More products are better (having a huge skincare “wardrobe” to chose from every day) and lots of products in a routine is better. Ugh! So, so wrong for my sensitive skin. It took me a while to work out my skin generally likes the same products all the time, and that less can be more.
I've tried a few different Vitamin C's and I don't see a difference, ever. The I'm From Rice toner and the LANEIGE Cream Skin Toner & Moisturizer has been a game changer for me.
Have been told this by several skin doctors while trying to get rid of my very Bad acne as a teen. They told me it had to burn to work. But it burned like my skin was dissolving or melting of. And left more scars then before.... i hated them
I find using things sparingly (except sunblock - Nivea factor 50 shine control for the win) generally works better. Otherwise my skin starts going a bit nuts. I hate all the "natural=better" thinking.
Worst myth: “natural” products are better. It took me a while to question why I never saw any improvements but I payed a decent amount of money for the products
I recently got a Lidl sunscreen which is the best one I've ever used. High SPF, no white marks, non-greasy but also non-drying, doesn't irritate eyes and a fabulous base for make-up! It was about £2.50.
@@noneofurbusiness5223 yeah, it's hit and miss even if you go into store. They won't have it all year round. I'm probably going to have to look on ebay for my next one and no doubt the price will be higher x
Ok ok ok I am ready to try less actives daily lol. I have been trying to get used to too many actives for almost two years and I’m still having issues with dehydration in my skin. I’m going to try the three night plan you use. I’m tired of unhappy skin. I’m over it! Thanks so much for this.
A small tip: do not try new ingredients on your periods and a bit before if you are prone to breakouts (hope I spelled it right 😬). As you can misinterpret the skin reaktion🤷🏻♀️
I bought a lot of products and ended up using aloe Vera and rice water for the base of products most days. A BHA peel and clay mask once a week. I rotate with moisturizer. Oil free at night (I work night shift) An all natural moisturizer with sunscreen in the day.
Re: actives, Dr Alexis Stephens has said you should try to use no more than three actives in your daily skin care routine (that's including the day and night routines).
the worst myth i used to follow is to fear chemicals...my skin is soo much better now that i use nice quality skincare products instead of trying to keep it "all natural". glad i learned to trust skincare scientists & dermatologists instead of confused hippies lol
hint: EVERYTHING is a chemical. chemicals found in essential oils would be very dangerous in high amounts, whereas the chemical dihydrogen monoxide is beyond healthy, and life could not exist without it.
Great video!! Klairs sunscreen was my favorite to wear... 😢... never had any issues with balling up when I reapplied and it didn’t sting or make me greasy.. I LOVED IT SO MUCH... I’m really hoping they will reformulate and bring back another awesome sunscreen ❤️❤️
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience I've been using the canmake mermaid sunscreen since seeing your recommendation in a previous video. It's AMAZING. Definitely the closest I've found to the old klair's one and I absolutely love it. 😚
@@anadavalos3212 I feel like it has a slight iridescence at first, which I know sounds weird lol but I think it sits on the skin so nicely after like 10 min. I don't find it greasy at all, it's more moisturizing if anything.
I'm glad for this content, been overusing actives and tretinoin that led to inflammation-causing my skin to hyper pigment. I was wondering why I wasn't seeing any positive change. I have since scaled back and my skin is improving drastically. Going forward I'm using your advice to not overuse actives instead listen and pay attention to my skin.
Hey Michelle first off thank you so much for all the amazing scientifically-informed myth-busting you do, you're doing the lord's work! But I thought I'd shed light from an evidence-based standpoint on something I see in every single myth-busting video, for your future reference: I studied psych, but learned in first year science communication class that when communicating information and countering myths, repeating the myth straight up actually subconsciously reinforces the myth in the person's mind. So when people see eg. "Natural is better: MYTH. _____explanation why it's incorrect_____", it re-states the more familiar statement, and familiarity gives a subconscious bias to emphasise that point and forget the correct information which is less familiar to the person. So myth-busting can easily subtly reinforce the myth one is actually trying to counter. So a better way of busting myths is to phrase it like "Natural is not necessarily better. ______ explanation why this is true_______" Sorry to jump in but I thought you'd appreciate the evidence-based communication tip! Love your work x
Thanks! I'm aware of that study - there's been more studies since then, and it doesn't seem to be a big concern :) www.ualberta.ca/law/media-library/faculty-research/hli/media/images/caulfield-debunking-works-vulnerable-caulfield.pdf
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience Oh amazing! Yes my unit was 7 years ago so I should have updated myself on the newer research gosh, of course you're across things x Glad to know it's not a big concern though because it's such a standard way of communicating information
I think another myth is that if you use Oil-Based cleansers like balms or straight up cleansing oils you need to use a surfactant based cleanser afterwards.That myth really dried out my skin, since I had to put water on my face twice.The oil based impurities are cleansed off by the oil, while the water-soluble ones are washed off by the water you use to wash off the cleansing oil.So unless the oil doesn't emulsify well, there is no need to use two cleansers.
Worst myth : removing peach fuzz will make the hair grow back as thick as a man's beard! I'm so glad I learned the error. My makeup and skincare apply so much better now that I "shave" my face. You can pry dermaplaning from my cold dead hands!
@@chrisfiz9246 If you shave, the hair doesn't know and grows the same way. If you pluck, you will damage the follicle and can eventually cause it to stop growing. Either way, I promise you that it won't cause the hair to thicken, otherwise so many women's armpits and legs would be growing thicker hair than any man's you meet! XD
@@chrisfiz9246 same ! the problem is that my hair actually grow darker and i don’t know why. everyone’s been telling me that it’s a myth and it doesn’t but i tried to shave on only one side to compare and it did grow back thicker so it kinda sucks
I used to use a cream cleanser, exfoliant, toner, serum etc for dry skin with blackheads and it became dry again not even two hours afterwards. Then I tried micellar water and vitamin E oil and now I don't have problems with my skin! I can even skip a day without putting anything on my face
I'm so glad that the sunscreen variety is much higher now than when I was a kid, but the irl store availability could definitely use some help. I work in solar I'm Southern California, and I have yet to meet a man that reapplies sunscreen during the day.
Same here. I live in Indonesia and just few mins after putting on sunscreen people easily break tons of sweat, imagine if people here have to re-apply thick heavy sunscreen on top of skin that full of sweat. I wish skincare companies will be able to make revolutionary sunscreen products which able to work in super hot weather.
@@sereinserenity2293 they have sunscreen powder that you can apply to the face, but that's probably as good as it's going to get so you should also wear a hat and sunglasses to decrease your chances of getting skin cancer.
@@伏見猿比古-k8c Oh I saw Maybelline launched a new face powder contains SPF 44. I think that will be the best option after putting sunscreen on face. Yes, wearing hat and protective clothes is a must. However I don't think a lot people around me go to such extense to protect their skin in high degree of Celcius. Too hot to wearing long sleeves. Hat is an okay option. Thanks a lot for your feedback 😊
Thanks for all the great information on your channel. I don’t have a university degree but very much appreciate the science and your explanations. I love that you often give more information for further information in the notes. Sometimes I feel like such an unusual person in a sense that I need to know not just that a product works but how and why and what are the benefits vs risks. You do a great job.
I didn't believe this one but I just wanna complain about "natural is always better". It is one of the worst ones. Especially with this whole beauty eco trend that is going hard at the moment. I have so many customers coming into the pharmacy screaming at the idea of "chemicals". It's really bad for sunscreen at the moment. I'm selling so many natural sunscreens as people are scared. No the all the heavy scented essential oil tree tea acne products aren't going to be better for your sensitive skin. The worst one I probably believed as a person with sensitive skin was that "if it stings it is working". Sometimes figuring out if I'm purging or just having a reaction can be a more blurred line than it should be 😂
The crazy part about chemicals is that they are in everything including water but nobody wants to hear that, lol. People need to stop listening to the EWG. I've rarely run across a derm or skin care professional who puts stock into anything they say.
I have resilient skin. If I don't use actives everyday or every other day, I'll have those white bumps. My skin is great right now. Doesn't feel tight and I'm glowy. Just keep in mind of your skin type too.
When Michelle said "white dudes" I immediately know to which group of white dudes she was referring toand not white dudes as a general population but then I spend a lot of my time here. It's funny people announcing their departure by unsubscribing or unfollowing, like it's an airport or something, and not just here but in all forms of social media.
Exactly. She wasn't being racist. The BLM movement has some people a tad sensitive. She was just saying that products might be better with input from people that actually use skin care products!
I don't think that the cancer and endocrine disruption issues with sunscreen ingredients should just be brushed aside. Common SPF ingredients like oxybenzone and homosalate penetrate into the blood stream and are correlated with endometriosis in women and low testosterone in men. Maybe we should think about that before putting it on our face every single day!
"Cleanser doesn't matter" I think one I was trying was causing some severe painful breakouts for me, so I haven't used it for a week, seen a change, and it is now in the bin
Definitely the exfoliation! When I started tret and was shedding like a snake I thought that was a sign that I needed to get busy with glycolic acid.My skin was PISSED off for awhile but I finally have it figured out. Thanks for the great science based content.
When you strip oily skin of moisture with harsh cleansers it leaves it dry and barren sorta like a desert. Then when the oils inevitability return, your skin looks "flooded" with oil, just like a desert when it rains. You dont have the proper ground to absorb the oil so it sits on the cracked dry surface. Thats my impression at least
Great video! I have a question: I live in Stockholm, Sweden and during the winter the uv index is about zero. Do I really need sunscreen in the winter? The uv index given only has one number so does it represent uva or uvb or a combination of both?🤔
If it hurts, that’s means it’s working. When I was a kid, my parents used lime on my scalp due to dandruff. When I was a preteen, I started developing pretty terrible acne. They started putting lime and turmeric on my chest, back, and face. The turmeric was fine but I shudder when I think about the lime. It burned so bad. There was also a St. Ives walnut scrub phase-gave me some of the worst most painful breakouts ever.
Hi science woman, can you educate us on the cost of raw ingredients? I’ve been seeing a lot of SEA / chinese brands selling acids, niacinamide toners for as low as 2$ for 100 ml, they even have serums and spf for 5$, are these prices possible?
First time I used hyaluronic acid the instructions said to use the whole capsule on clean dry skin, I couldn’t understand why my skin went even more dry and red. Then I looked it up and found out it goes on damp skin as it absorbs 1000s times it’s weight in water so now I use 1/4 capsule and spray my face with water before and after until it and no problems
Hey! Loved this super informative video, especially the part where you acknowledge that flaking skin can be because of underlying conditions (for example, terrible idea to try to scrub off the flaking skin from an area prone to eczema or psoriasis). Just had a quick question about using Vaseline as a 'soothing' treatment: my understanding was the Vaseline itself does not contain any lipids or any other ingredients which could be absorbed into the skin, and that is works solely as an occlusive. So whilst it should not aggravate inflamed skin, it could be trapping whatever is inflaming the skin underneath the occlusive barrier. I've always used coconut oil due its antimicrobial properties. What are your thoughts on this please? :)
BLESS YOU - was just googling to see why my normal skin was all of a sudden stinging when I go to put on products. Definitely damaged my skin barrier with too many actives 😬
re: exfoliant everyday - I use paula’s choice 10% AHA and 2% BHA every other day. When I first started I noticed a big difference in my sebaceous filaments, then after a week it went back to how it was before (super clogged looking). Even when I upped my exfoliants to everyday nothing changed. What do I do?? 😭
That also happened to me, now I use it two times a week, and I always always apply moisturizer (not serum, light cream) at the end of my routine. Happy skin now :)
I had the same problem with sebaceous filaments on the side of my nose, I used COSRX Powerblack BHA instead. I think you may need to try other products because once I added Clinique Clarifying Toner number 2 to my routine, the sebaceous filaments disappear. Now I use it once a week!
I really enjoy your channel, but I was disappointed that you invoked the “ white dudes” line about sunscreen. I like the evidence-based nature of your channel - the gender and skin colour of the people formulating products is irrelevant to me
It’s extremely relevant when
a. formulators test products on themselves during development
b. it’s an industry that’s been dominated for decades by the idea that their female target market doesn’t care about science and just want pseudoscientific hopes and dreams. The number of times I’ve been told by brands and PR agencies to “dumb down” my content over the last decade because “no one cares about that boring science stuff” - my channel shouldn't have to exist. And the disdain a lot of industry people have for their customers is plainly obvious when you go to a cosmetics conference and talk to some of the people there. This translates to the products that get released.
There is boatloads of evidence for the importance of representation, even if you choose to believe the world is gender- and colourblind. See also foundation shade ranges, the men who designed pink tampon removing gloves…
Do you think someone who doesn't drive and thinks drivers are gullible would design a better car?
But it's important to take it into consideration. If it's mostly men formulating sunscreens for a mostly female demographic, they may not think that women would put on makeup after sunscreen and how the makeup affects it (as an example). And if they are white, they also may not think on how the sunscreen will look on a darker skin tone and leave a white cast.
I literally just wrote this in another comment before I saw this!
"I’m scarred from the time I complained about a “daily sunscreen” balling up, and the male formulator told me I should just use it without makeup. I also once toured a cosmetic facility and the engineer showing me around directed all explanations to my then-boyfriend, who was just there to kill time 🤷🏻♀️ It’s an endemic problem!"
I absolutely hear what you're saying - science is supposed to be objective, it's not supposed to fall prey to societal biases - but the unfortunate reality is that *how* science is done is often influenced by *who* is doing it. Implicit bias can manifest at every stage of the scientific process, from the type of research questions we want to explore (and fund), to our test subjects and if they adequately represent our population's sociecononic/gender/race/sex/etc. diversity, to how and with who we share our scientific conclusions. A classic example of this is heart attacks in women - women have different symptoms, different onset, and were oftener misdiagnosed (and died!) because the majority of the previous research on heart attacks was done on men, by men.
Skincare formulation is the less ... serious example, but the same biases operate.
ikr its so cringe hearing her say " a bunch of white dudes" imagine if she said "a bunch of black dudes". Being racist towards white people is cool nowadays and you dont get any backlash for it. i unsubbed after hearing that ngl and no im not even white
Worst myth? That oily skin doesn't need moisturiser. So many formulas sit badly on oily skin that I believed the whole category was not formulated for oily skin!
Ugh yes! That one got me too. Although to be fair I still skip moisturiser most of the year without issues... but I use lots of humectant-rich products and live in a humid climate!
I dont get it, isnt oil production supposed to moisturize our skin naturally so that we dont need moisturiser?
@@xxBlackStarxx4 from what I understand is, moisturizers help us to not have to overcompensate with those "oily" oils
Sebum isn't great at trapping water, so it only acts as an emollient - you may still need occlusives and humectants to help your skin hold onto more water. I have a long explanation here: ua-cam.com/video/vwpvk9l10zc/v-deo.html
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience this makes me feel a lot better about not moisturising everyday day and night, thank you! I live in Brisbane so most of what I put on my face slides off anyway.
However I use SPF and retinol that are both quite moisturising, and at least once a week I use the Ella Bache Hydra extreme plumping mask which is like a big drink of water for my skin.
Worst Myth: Oily/acne prone skin needs a stronger cleanser. Switched to a gentle cleanser and my skin has never been better.
Yes! I only use my acne wash once a day or once every other day. I had a friend that was really struggling with adult acne and she even got a very fancy and expensive skincare line to help clear it up, but it seemed to only be getting worse. I suggested using a gentle cleanser and moisturizer at night and within a month her skin cleared up.
Same lol my skin is so CHILL now that I’m using gentler cleansers
i face wash/cleanse with micellar water, do you think it’s okay ?
I'm not really qualified to comment on this, but I would say whatever works for you, should be okay! Any other suggestions?@@alexterieur8813
@@alexterieur8813 It's okay if you remove your makeup, but for cleaning out face dirt, it can be not, cause it doesn't remove as much dirt as the face wash and it can overdry your skin. The best combo is micellar water for makeup + face wash + moisturizer.
Worst myth: NATURAL IS ALWAYS BETTER. I was a very big fan of walnut scrubs because it made my skin feel "squeaky clean" 🤢
Oh yes 😳
People talk about nature as though it's some cosy blanket that evil people want us to ignore foe insidious reasons. On the other hand, deadly nightshade, rat poo, bubonic plague, tetanus, lightning, hurricanes, wasps, and large spiders and scorpions are all completely natural
Don’t worry, I used to use apple cider vinegar on my face 🥲
@@LittleQueenB same girl, same 😂😂😂 been there, done that! 😂😂
As yes, the walnut scrub. Pretty much most folks are like those are better used on your feet and other dry scaly areas of your body but please don't use them on the face.
Worst Myth: That sunscreen is bad and that people with dark skin don't need to wear it. Informative video!
Thats a dangerous one ☝️
This is such a bad myth. I’m still trying to urge my friends to wear their SPF 🤦🏻♀️
True...everyone needs to wear sunscreen period....
Yes!! We need protection too 🥰
Worst myth ever. This one got a lot of women into trouble with hyperpigmentation.
Worst myth: More is always better. When I first got into skincare, I used way too many products and it was too much for my face. Now I have a two-step morning routine, five-step evening routine, and mask once a week. My face is much happier now
Heyyy would you mind telling what's included in those routines?
@@randomly_alina7627 no problem! I use klairs vitamin c in the morning, then follow up with spf 50 Australian Gold sunscreen on my face and spf 15 beauty by earth lip balm on my lips (I guess that’s kind of 3 steps, but I count spf application as one step!). Then in the evening I double cleanse with inkey list oat cleansing balm and CeraVe hydrating cleanser, then go in with The Ordinary buffet (peptides), then La Roche Posay adapalene (strong retinoid), then CeraVe PM moisturizer. Once a week I use the Ordinary AHA BHA peeling solution. When I do that I just double cleanse, skip the peptides and adapalene, and really slather on the moisturizer
@Cait Rose Co Thank you! I'm always interested in whatever people are doing my skincare is really scaled down these days and I'm just starting to look into Ahas and Bhas. So, this is really helpful. Thanks again!
SAMEEE not only do I not waste so much product I also save time
Fren, you = me
Worst myth: if I can't pronounce it, it's bad.
🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Dihydrogen monoxide.
And less problematically, it’s so bloody patronising. No “nasties” 🙃🤢
@@adylaar6708 hahaha,
I love this :))))
I like how she goes straight to the point and the video is so full of information
Thank you! 🥰🥰🥰
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience no problem! ❤❤❤
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience me too. Subscribing because this was a great video♥ thank you for it
I like the real life examples she sprinkles in with each information point. it helps for better understanding of the sciencey parts
i truly believe that unfollowing skin care influencers and cutting back my skin care to a more simple routine helped my skin the most. checking in with my skin in the evening and seeing what it needs and going from there is just so much more managable than overdoing it daily
When I first got into skincare, it was at the height of the "10-Step Korean Skincare" craze. I ended up wasting a lot of money on stuff that I didn't even need, trying to achieve that "glass skin" bs. It turns out my skin would be happier with, like, 3 or 4 products max.
I think it was also presented as “you need all 10 of these steps every time you wash your face” when honestly you would be better off tailoring what you use. Having an exfoliating step doesn’t mean I need to use it every time, for example.
I’ve noticed that using less products works better for me too, my skin gets really irritated when I add more products in my routine.
Same here..
Agreed! No one in Korea ever did the ten step program - it was just that there were many different products that people were recommended to use according to their issues but western media just combined it 🤣 so stupid looking back now
The worst myth has to be that sunscreen is not necessary in winter. The drugstores here in the Netherlands hardly sell it now we're getting into winter, as if finding a good sunscreen wasn't hard enough!
Hahaha yes the Kruidvat sunscreen section becomes the scented candles section in the winter 😂 go try Eucerin Oil Control spf50!!! It’s amazing! You have to spread it quickly because when it dries it can start to pill, but it’s zekerweten the most transparent/seemless sunscreen I’ve ever tried. It even has less shine than La Roche Posay Shaka Fluid. (That’s my number 2)
Same in the UK!
@@nadja. Even if the UV index is low, you still need to protect your skin from damage. You might not burn, but yes, you do need sunscreen
@@nadja.over winter there isn't UVB which burns, there is still UVA which causes ageing damage
Stocking up sunscreen for the winter is thing if I were to live there :D
I don't know if people say this in other countries, but I always heard things like "if it stings it's because it's working" or "you have to suffer to be beautiful" while growing up. Learning to be gentle with my skin instead of just piling harsh cleansers, physical exfoliants, salycilic acid and differin was the best thing I did for my skin.
Proof that almost anything becomes better if you add science to it. Even beauty and self-care content.
As a chronic overthinker, I support this message 😅
Some people don’t respect those with a scientific background in that speciality, unfortunately. Everyone thinks they’re an expert now 🤦🏻♀️
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience @Lab Muffin Beauty Science I know this is off topic, but are you familiar with colloidal silver as a skin care ingredient for acne? I have started using silver soap and gel on my face, and I have completely eradicated my acne.
This is a controversial ingredient, especially for ingestion, but I get conflicting information about its use topically. Long term ingestion of large amounts can cause a bluing of the skin (argyria). You could do a video about whether or not topical silver will permanently stain the skin over time.
I love this stuff, but I am afraid what will happen if I use it over the span of years.
Even more confusing is that ionic silver is different than colloidal silver, but still used to kill germs. Your science background may be useful here.
I know the luxury skin care line Omorovicza uses silver.
PS, Katarina Luise reviewed this skin care line favorably. Since she is also a scientist, you two should talk sciencey skin care stuff!
As a black woman, I know EXACTLY what you're talking about with the white cast from sunscreen. I started getting the tinted sunscreens from Morphe but not sure they are good. They do look nice on my skin because I have a lot of golden undertones.
That some people took your comment about "white dudes" not listening to what customers need is NOT racist and shouldn't be seen as racist. It's up to women to define what is beautiful and take control of their health. This can only be done by being educated about what's in these products; what does and does not work. I'm grateful for your channel.
Oh I don’t think the majority of them have a clue, sunscreen is pretty racist! I helped a black lady once at a Boots (UK) she was looking for a sunscreen that wouldn’t give her a white cast. The male shop assistant had no clue. I recommended the LRP Anthelios but also told her to check out Evy technology, my all time favourite sunscreen ❤ also told her about a black Instagram user that tests sunscreens & white cast. (Can’t remember his name now)
@@carldegroot5213 How is sunscreen racist? THE WHITECAST IS THE REASON SUNSCREEN PROTECTS! I it's too racist for you then let your skin burn ffs.
racist comments depict a harmful, derogatory, and often false stereotype. what she said about white dudes often being clueless when it comes to what women of color need and for that reason they shouldn’t be in charge of that is entirely true. it’s not a stereotype, it’s a trend. saying white dudes are all stupid and lack empathy is a stereotype, and a racist comment, but what she pointed out is based on experiences and evidence, and she didn’t attack them for not knowing, but rather for having the arrogance to assert they should get to choose anyways. it’s more harmful to pretend it doesn’t happen and let the ignorance and neglect continue than to hurt a few white dudes’ inflated egos for systemic and social equality.
And these idiots are the very people who would jump on lab muffin if she didn't mention how things can look on darker skin. Smh
buncha white women getting offended
Wow, just read the comments. I didn’t interpret the “white dudes” comment as racist. It resonated because I have worked for years in organizations where the majority of decision makers were white, middle age men. I have had a lot of health issues lately. I thought I was sensitive to medication until a female doctor pointed out the actual problem. I understand that her statement “white dudes” as shorthand for all of her years of frustration for the prevailing attitude driving the creation of products.
Except “white dudes” haven’t historically been executives at every major cosmetics company. If executives “of color” were key to formulating cosmetically acceptable sunscreens, then Shiseido or Kanebo or Bioré would have been offering imperceptible-on-skin formulas decades ago (which they weren’t). Also, most “white dudes” don’t wear foundation, mascara, eyeshadow, or lip gloss, yet that hasn’t stopped white-dude-helmed cosmetic companies from developing cult, tried-and-true products in those areas. Any cosmetics executive seeking to maximize profit would place their customers’ needs, priorities, and desires over their own. The reality is that scientific study on photo-aging is, in the grand scheme of things, newly pioneered territory; by consequence, so is the development of advanced sun-protection formulas. In any case, her theory is unarguably meritless.
Agreed, however this reality is shockingly still not widely known and her comment could have provided more educational context so it would show how and why “white dudes” making these decisions tend to lead to exclusion or ineffective products
@@dear_totheheart it's also a problem when people don't choose to educate themselves on the subject yet still feels the need to "called her out" even if her comment was not incorrect. The first woman to be recognized as a cosmetic scientist happened in 1988 so highly doubt there was many women out there working on cosmetic formulas until recently. Also, her channel is about debunking myths about skin care products so if people want to discuss stereotypes and language then they would do well to educate themselves on the subject matter before starting any discussions where they have no relevant knowledges but all the opinions.
@@readinggeorgeeliot1489 That's all well and good yet is not helpful or practical. Education starts by being willing to learn and also understand that others may be receptive and open yet will be shut down and tune out your perspective when they encounter bias, discrimination, and disrespect. Your attitude shuts down the very such learning and understanding needed by assuming that every person will have the same mindset, knowledge base, or perspective you do or to take the time to thoroughly research which is not required for engaging in a discussion, though ideal yet not realistic to expect. She's not wrong but the delivery was and is alienating and discriminatory instead of taking a moment to provide further context or clarity on the subject to bring her audience to share and understand her perspective
Doesnt matter, its still racist. If black people were in charge of sunscreen and as a result put out products with lower strength because it worked for them, you wouldnt want everyone bashing black people for not getting sunscreen right. Most people dont have intense skin issues. That goes for every race regardless of gender. Blaming an entire group of people being a problem just because you fall into a minority of people that can't handle normal sunscreen is prejudiced. I dont care what the statistics say about white men in cosmetics. Its irrelevant.
I am regularly amazed at how demented people get about skin care. I’m an old person so I come to skin care with dedication but some basic common sense. The number of acids, peels, and cleaning gadgets people use daily to “get the dead skin cells off” makes me go 😳. Now everyone seems to sensitive skin and they don’t know why!
Several dermatologists have told me they're seeing a ton of people come in with complicated routines and irritated skin 😩
So True!!!!
Agreed. I had a horrible allergic reaction to a "homemade" diy mask when i was 15, a day before "picture day" at school 😂 it was awful n since then i feel like my skin has always been awful (turning 30 soon) honestly i just use a plain gentle olive bar soap now.. And sometimes a plain salicylic acid face wash just on days when i tend to break out before my cycle. Only recently gotten a nice sunscreen that agrees with me n i just need a nice moisturiser that does justice too now.
For the past few years I worked for a brand that claimed to be "simple" skincare. We had 2 exfoliating masks, an exfoliating cleanser, acid serum, acid lotion, 10% glycolic pads and a salicylic gel. Pair this with staff who would happily tell people they could use multiple products, and strong products daily, just to get a bigger sale, and its no surprise people are ruining their skin. So many products on the open market that should have stayed in a dermatologists office.
People need to talk about this more because a lot of "beauty gurus" suggest exfoliating and the moment I did it my skin broke out SO bad. Everyone's skin is different. Not everyone needs the exact same routine.
depends what type of exfoliation. If you mean chemican because you used glycolic acid then you are not suppose to use glycolic acid above 5%-5.5% if you have brown, dark, sensitive or dry skin... and even then, lacic acid is more recomended for those skin tones and types
Worst myth I believed:
You should completely dry out acne to heal it the quickest and best way
Worst myth: Ingredient list tells everything. Especially in case of sunscreens.
Yes! I'm planning to do a proper video on this one...
I agree with this one as someone living in an underdeveloped asian country. Almost 80% of the products I have seen just include like 4 to 5 ingredients and then those products claim to have the most 'clean' and 'all natural non-toxic' beauty when in reality they literally pack these products with horrendous amounts of fragrance, irritating preservatives etc.
Uh oh
Wait - it doesn't? :o
@@catvalentine4317 Definitely not!
To make it very simple: If someone says they are going to do something with eggs, flour and sugar you can't say for sure what the end result will be. Pancakes, a cake, muffins, bread? etc. Depending on how these ingredients are mixed or processed you'll get a different result like a pancake or a cake. An ingredient list isn’t going to tell you how a product was processed and manufactured. It doesn’t tell you what equipment was used. It doesn’t tell you if they waited or not for the formula to cool to 40 degrees Celsius before adding in the preservative or temperature-sensitive ingredients and so on.
An ingredient list in skin care doesn't give you percentages. So product A could have: 70% flour, 20% eggs and 10% sugar while product B could have 90% flour, 7% eggs and 3% sugar. Both ingredient lists would read: flour, eggs, sugar. Yet I think you get that there is a stark difference between product A and B.
Also some ingredients have different versions (for example different molecular weights)but they all have the same name. So in our example you could say that spelt flour and rye flour are both called flour on the ingredient list.
Worst myth: you need to exfoliate every day. My fine skin on my cheeks are still healing, 5 years after I switched cleansing routine. It might never heal completely...
Oh noooo 😭😭😭😭
I also learnt the hard way that exfoliating every day was an awful choice of my skin, destroyed my moisture barrier and caused cystic acne and inflammation. Vaseline all over my face at night was honestly the only way my skin recovered, felt gross but it certainly did the job. Rinse it off in the morning and it shouldn’t cause any acne/blocked pores.
Another lesson I learnt from this was that when your skin is sensitive/recovering only cleansing (with a really gentle/hydrating one) in the evening can be a good idea, when your skin is recovering you can end up washing away the natural oils that the exfoliating destroyed which prevents your skin from ever fixing its moisture barrier. There are some cleansing waters you can use or just use regular tap water, perhaps a calming toner and whatever moisturiser+sunscreen you find suitable for the day.
It’s awful what misleading skincare advice can result in (and it’s even worse when some skincare companies themselves are pushing the misinformation for profit) but hopefully your skin recovers, otherwise it’d definitely be worth seeing a dermatologist for personalised advice - I saw one myself and that’s who gave me the advice to use Vaseline. While a dermatologist can be expensive I wasted a lot of money on moisturisers beforehand to no avail, sometimes it’ll turn out cheaper in the long run to go straight to a professional than try resolving it alone.
@@Sanakudou Thank you. I found answers myself (here in Norway you have to be referred to a dermatologist by your gp). For a long time I used a really gentle cleanser, no actives and moisturiser for sensitive skin (and SPF). It’s been 5 years, and some of the broken veins and red patches have disappeared, but not all. I have combination/dry skin, so I’m lucky to not have to deal with severe acne on top of this. I’m sorry you had to go through it, but glad you got the help!
@@solveigw this sounds very much like you have Rosacea.
@@Lara-tm5nz I don't :) I've seen a derm about it. I just have very fine skin. I am eczema prone though, but I rarely get it on my face.
Learning to be respectful with my skin barrier has been the most important lesson to me. My skin was not sensitive but it became way more reactive after trying to go 100% "natural", and then trying to fix that mistake with too many actives just made it worse. It's better doing less of the right products but having happy skin, than going crazy and adding a million things and struggle with irritation, inflammation, etc.
I also think that exfoliating products are overrated, overused and, for the most part, unnecessary.
When I was a teen, my parents bought me Noxema for my teenage acne. My dad convinced me that the tingle/burn was good actually because it meant it was killing the acne. I believed that for quite a while 😂
Same but my dad would put toothpaste all over my face to get rid of acne. It burned so badly but he said that means it's "killing the acne." I got chemical burns from that and still had acne for years afterwards 😭😭😭
Same, my family always said "if it's hurting, it's working" O.O
When I was a teen-ager back in the 1960s the only things available for oily skin or acne were Noxema, Bonne Bell Ten-O-Six lotion and Clearasil. None of these were strong enough for me! If only they had Accutane and Proactiv in the early 1960s!
Omg xdxd had to be men... At least you have a dad 👁️👁️
Noxema😂.. we all used that shit.
Never believed in any of these myths, best thing about having eczema is I've always been cautious about what I put on my skin. ❤👏
Secret superpower!
I like that you are seing the posive about exema !✌
Yes!! Having eczema and sensitive skin has really helped me fine tune my skin care because It’s been heavily ingrained to take things slow
I suffer from eczema and my skin just pretty much takes anything good or bad.
Same
This clear definition of irritation probably would have saved me a lot of time. I always thought having a reaction to a product meant that I would have some kind of a poison-ivy-like rash. So I kept using, for example, adapalene every day or glycolic acid twice a day, and thinking why are these great ingredients not improving my acne? It took a while to notice, but my acne was getting gradually worse and my skin was stinging and becoming sensitized to products that it was fine with before. But it _looked_ exactly the same, no rashy red patches, just my normal skin tone with acne, so I thought my skin was tolerating things that it actually wasn’t.
I relate to this so much. I just couldnt understand why my skin kept getting worse even when I had been prescribed Tretinoin. I was using it and washing my face with 2% BHA and 10% benzyl peroxide EVERYDAY and even sometimes using an AHA moisturizer wondering why my acne wouldnt go away 🤦🏻♀️
I share your point, mine got worse with hyperpigmentation due to overusing actives.
Same. I didn’t realize fragrance was making my acne worse, because I didn’t have a rash.
I was always afraid of overly exfoliating and using retinol because everyone always warned about destroying your barrier. Turns out exfoliating twice a day and using Adapalene is the only way to keep my acne away and it's the "gentle" acids that destroy my skin like azelaic acid. You just gotta hydrate strongly and avoid your dry areas.
Worst skincare myth, Vaseline clogs pores.
I really like Vaseline on my eyes and lips and corners of nose before I apply tretinoin. It really helps.
Yeah it’s absurd myth.
I tolerate retin a in winter all due to Vaseline.
After retin a I just slather Vaseline all over face just avoiding nose as I hv large pores on nose.
@@rics1883 I love Vaseline too. But be careful, I saw a video about slugging (putting an occlusive or a lot of moisturizer on your face), it’s great but it can intensify the amount of product you put on your skin for example if you put retin a before Vaseline.
@@Gaby8532 Yeah have heard the same but in my experience no irritation whatsoever with vaseline. It helped me a lot
I've been using 100% white petrolatum vaseline on my lips for 2 straight years, night and day with dermatologist recommendation. I still have dry, flaky, burning chapped lips with no remedy. I have bouts of cheilitis on the corners of my mouth occasionally as well and I've found nothing to help either problem. The vaseline also causes pimples to form on my lipline and even on my lips due to vaseline overuse. So yes, it can cause irritation. I've tried vaseline around my eyes too and I break out in whiteheads there. I'm 46 and I never thought I'd be dealing with these issues lol. Frustrating.
@@kristine1495 Hey! I'm not sure if this will help, but there's a video by Dr Eric Berg that speaks about chronic flaky lips, especially in the corners of the mouth.
Hope you get better soon!
Gentle face wash once a day (usually during the night) is more effective on oily skin types than people think it would be. Don't be scared to try it for a week, it does help with oil control for a lot of ppl.
I have oily, acne-prone skin and I also attest to this. I use a gentle cleanser only at night and just wash with water in the morning. It really helped lessen the oiliness. I now rarely use my oil-blotting papers.
Same. I clean only at night and my skin keeps the moisture and my skin is happy
I'll try this routine. I have an oily skin and live in a humid climate
Very oily & middle aged skin. I wash with a cleanser at night and just wash with water in the morning 👍
I will try this but I have retinoid and my routine is reversed since I do night shift.
This is so true! I used to strip my face with glycolic cleansers twice a day, and used an enzyme exfoliant daily to deal with the peeling. I now use a gentle cleanser once or twice a day, and use glycolic only once a week. The best thing I added was a humidifier at my bed side!
Worst myth is that more is better. Even MDs (and I am one, but not a dermatologist) argue with me that tret should be daily and that additional exfoliation or rest days are unneeded. Listening to your videos over the pandemic when I really started to think about my skin and develop a routine (pretty haphazard before that) I have learned to listen to my skin and to develop routines adaptable to the season and my skin changes. Tret has been a game changer (but I am glad I started it at 0.025 because even that every third night gave me scary peeling for which LP cica was invaluable--but now after almost two years I am at 0.1 with no irritation 5/7 nights and my skin looks like it did 25 years ago (I am almost 70 and had great skin I until 45). I use gentle exfoliation (mandelic or lactic acid) and a soothing moisturizing overnight mask wed and sat nights. My skin tolerates vitamin c (any kind) well so I use that daily in the morning. Recently I tried a new niacinamide at 10% which was great for a few days and then even water hurt 🤕. But I saw what it was happening. Stopped it. Had three simple barrier support days and gave the 10% niacinamide away. I waited a long time to try 5% again, but miraculously 5% was still fine. There is a sweet spot for most products and we need to find it. Now that I am up to 0.1 tret, I plan to see if my gains continue if I slowly reduce from 5/7 days to 1/3 long run, since I plan to continue tret forever. Thanks for your always helpful discussions.
Well done! It's so nice when patience pays off ^_^ And thank you!
Please update on you using tretenoin less times a week and your results!
If I used too much acid at once and my skin is breaking out (almost like cystic acne) is it reversible?
@@lelagermanin8410 luckily skin is always renewing, using something that is soothing and also useful for acne like azelaic acid has been really useful to me when I have overused actives. That and barrier repair. I like lrp cicaplast baume b5 (but I have dry skin) but anything with ceramides. I don't know where you live but Byoma is a gentle budget line where each step has barrier repair ingredients. They have an acne line. I am aggressive with tret but actually very cautious with exfoliating acids, usually using something mild like lactic acid. Frustrating as it is when there is a problem I find it helps to simplify the routine and focus on healing until skin is back to normal
@@sjkcmd thanks for this! I've been trying to find more sensitive skin brands
The myth I bought into for awhile was that there were ingredients (ie vit c) that NEEDED to be in your skincare routine. Now I’m realizing that the only real rule is to listen to your skin and use what works for you
And wear sunscreen!
I really appreciate how fast you get to the point and keep going. And also that you don't talk slowly. I usually zone out during videos (even super interesting ones!) but yours are awesome! So thank you :D
Myth: I can get a “base” tan and then I don’t have to worry about a burn and getting damage. 😅 I now use LA ROCHE-POSAY spf 60 every day and reapply when needed… working on being consistent with that part. 😎
ikr far too many people still believe that getting a light tan is some kind of protection.
I am so excited for anti-inflammatory skincare routines to have their moment this year
What do you recommend
I am sad about sunscreen - there are some ppl who just don't have the money to get the more comfortable sunscreens for the face. I ask for a tube for Christmas or my bday as I cannot afford the ones that don't irrate and are comfortable normally.
Yeahhh, absolutely. This is why we BEG for cheaper yet effective sunscreens, that is possible, because for many years I have found a sunscreen that works for me and under less that what I am allowed to spend, so happy for that! I also believe that you'll find your holy grail sunscreen ❤️
Are you guys in Australia? If so, try the Cancer Council range…amazing and affordable! Often on sale in Coles and Wollies too.
I just wonder, if you don't mind me asking: what sinscreens have you tried that did not work well for you? I may have a list of suggestions you may try. :)
I am in the eu and all the creams that are comfortable, that I have been able to try, and don't irritate my skin are pricey. I have ones I can use and are good but I literally have problems affording them. I also cannot afford to try out loads of different suncreams as they cost money I don't have.
@@oliviagollan9198 god i love cancer council mattifying. i think there's another vid on this channel where she talks about affordable sunscreen too
All of these! Another myth is that we can expect quick results. Took me 6 months to see the amazing results of tretinoin on my acne. Glad i didnt stop after 1 month.
The worst myth I believed was that I should avoid products with oil in them otherwise they'll make me break out worse. Now I rub oil into my skin almost every day, and it feels so nice, definitely doesn't cause me to break out. ^^
I've loved your videos for a little while. This one particularly impresses me because you didn't make it unnecessarily long. You didn't even stretch it to 10 minutes for extra advertising. This means when I click on one of your longer videos I know it's gonna be packed with information and not a 5 minute video dragged out to 25. Keep spreading science! Thankyou :)
I'm kinda worried to see these days a lot of skinfluencers (even certified dermatologists) recommending to exfoliate three, four times a week. I feel like it's too much, especially since their targets are mostly teenagers. I exfoliate twice a week, and even then I make sure to let a few days in between (also because I use The Ordinary red peeling, which is quite aggressive so I also make sure to use a gentler exfoliant for the second time). But honestly, I could do with once a week. Over-exfoliating can do huge damages to the skin, and it worries me that people are so cavalier with that.
Which derms are those so I can avoid the channels?
Teenagers skins are actually more resilient I think?
@@sunsundks3891 Sure, teenage skins are more resilient since their skin cells renewal is more efficient, but that's why I think it's dangerous. Cause they pick up bad habits, but since they don't see the effects immediately they don't see the harm. In the long run, they could permanently damage their skins and be none the wiser - or worse, keep doing these harmful habits. But one day, once they get older the damages are going to come back tenfold, and it's gonna be much harder - maybe impossible - to reverse them. It's the tanning problem all over again.
@@db-gb5xi It's Dr. Shereene Idriss. To be fair, I don't think she's bad at her job, and she does change these numbers according to what types of exfoliants are used - but still, I feel like these numbers are still too high. She just posted a video about exfoliants if you're interested. It's very informative, and the only flaw I can see is how many times she recommends to exfoliate.
@@Elrewin59 I've seen some of her videos and I've even referred folks to her vit c video but yes, most derms when it comes to physical exfoliation especially advise maybe once no more than twice a week since they tend to favor chemical ones. Obviously, people have different skin and different issues but it's important for people to understand that and treat their skin accordingly which not everyone does and can run into problems.
To add to your point of using too many different actives all over your face, target your actives to the parts that need it. My combo skin is fussy and the dry parts hate niacinamide but the oily parts love it so I only use it on the oily parts where it works. My cheeks are acne prone so I use salicylic acid there to help with my breakouts because it doesn't dry my cheeks out like niacinamide does. I could use salicylic acid all over but there's no point because I'm not dry and acne prone where I use the niacinamide. Ever since I started doing that, my skin has calmed down quite a lot and is much more manageable.
Exactly..I stopped using actives on my entire face that are meant to treat a particular issue
I have never heard a better analogy than comparing skincare with cake baking: thank you very much for your very informative videos.
Thank you! 😊
Changing your diet can be highly beneficial or very bad. Skin care products are often a waste of time and money if your diet is terrible.
I am always very careful about the products that I am using for my skin, but that was the first time when i believed that exfoliating myth and purchased paula's choice bha. that ruined my skin and i really don't have the sensitive skin. my face was burning legit for a week and it was so dry ( my skin type is oily like VERY oily). Honestly, i was so excited to try that product but that was not for me at all and now i am really scared to try another exfoliating product. for me the worst myth is going with the EVERYONE LOVES THIS PRODUCT products. Thank you for this video as always!
The skincare UA-cam skewed my sense of skincare so badly when i first got into it. Every new thing was a must and a ride or die. But everyone should have a routine that fits to their skintypes and needs. I was young and naive so i jumped on trends quickly. Recently i realized that since I'm eurasian i must be taking care of my skin in the eurasian way not the american way. I finally got to meet my skin again and sorted my priorities. My living conditions and the climate too. I educated myself enough to see what ingredients my skin reacts to whether positive or negative. I trained myself to not splurge on anything new because it was cute or shiny. Yeah imma stop rambling and thank you for this lovely video.
I believed in the myth that to get rid of the oil on my face, I needed a harsh cleanser. I got one my dermatologist recommended and I remember it smelled really strong. It completely dried out my face and in hindsight I don't think it was good for my skin.
The same dermatologist also recommended getting more sun exposure on my back to help with my back acne. And isn't that also a myth?
At least for me sun exposure does not help. It just leaves darker marks afterwards. But i have a bit darker skin than Michelle and sometimes react photoallergic to some ingredients. Maybe that caused my skin to react even without any products
I used to hate sunscreen when I was younger. All of them felt greasy and made me uncomfortable. It's been a couple years since I discovered the fluid one from Isdin that has no oil in the formula and I love it!
I've heard nice things about that one! Really difficult to get in Australia though 😩
Until my early twenties, sunscreen and my acne treatment were the "beauty products" I had, lol
I’ve been using Tretinoin every other night or every 3 night for months and my skin looks amazing.
I always thought you should use actives daily but they kill my face! When I cut back to exfoliating 1x a week & vit c to 2 or 3 days - game changer!
Awesome video! Definitely agree with the high concentrations not being all that great. They can be so irritating and can worsen your skin and PIH. The three night cycle is a great idea, I’ll definitely try that!
Hope it works for you! The other big bonus is that you don't have to think as hard about what order to use your products in... 😉
Absolutely. Whenever I use hard-working and expensive products day after day, my skin comes out in red blotches, lumpy bits and crusty bits. When I leave my skin alone and just apply a moisturising lotion rather than a skin cream, my skin settles down. The particular skin lotion I enjoy using even has parabens in it, which seem to do no harm!
Another thing that I found out is a myth: eyecreams are the only creams for the eyes/only eye creams are safe around the eyes.
I was dealing with red, flaky, stinging skin around my eyes. I thought I couldn't put my face moisturizer around my eyes, so I went and got this tiny little pot of product marketed as an eye cream, and _holy shit_ it hurt! It was scented, so that's probably why, but honestly I have no idea why you'd put fragrance in such a generally sensitive area.
The face moisturizer my mom was using ended up being the thing that fixed it, and it's now one of my holy grails.
Eye creams seem to be a bit of a scam a lot of the time. There's not a huge difference between eye creams and normal moisturisers a lot of the time, unless there are specific actives in it for anti-aging or de-puffing effects.
A number of derms say the same thing about eye cream being unnecessary. They say you can use your regular moisturizer or if you want to use one look for ingredients like caffeine or ingredients you would find in some eye pads like the derma e and the skyn hydro cool gels or good molecules eye patches or just use the eye pads. But people like the feeling and some swear they actually work for them. But yes, fragrance in eye cream is dumb. The only other eye product that derms will recommend is a retinol eye cream as it's a weaker strength than your regular retinol.
personally I had to completely stop eyecream because my eyes are way too sensitive, i can’t put any makeup, oil or cream around them for a week and expect them to not react badly
@werm what's the holy grail cream you using?? Share name and specifics please (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧
Same. All the eye creams I've used were utter trash and irritated my under eye area. But I kept using them because people told me that only eye cream is safe and that regular face cream is too harsh. One day I ended up using my face cream on my eyes anyway and it solved all my problems
@@nahbirdie4773
La Roche Posay Toleriane Ultra Cream. It's formulated for very sensitive and irritated skin, which I think is what made it so great for around my eyes. It's also been really great for any areas where I've experienced product irritation.
I think the ingredient that has made it so nice is Acetyl Dipeptide-1 Cetyl Ester, aka Calmosensine. INCI Decoder's detail page on it says this:
"A soothing dipeptide (tyrosine + arginine) based molecule that functions as a "messenger of tranquility and muscle relaxation". It works via stimulating the skin nerve cells to release met-enkephalin, which is an opioid (i.e. relaxing, pain-relieving) messenger molecule.
This means that Acetyl Dipeptide-1 Cetyl Ester can "signal" our skin cells to "relax" and it can instantly decrease skin irritations coming from heat, chemical stinging or mechanical stresses. It is also claimed to be able to prevent the onset of wrinkles and expression lines thanks to its muscle relaxation properties."
It's a pricier one, but such a tiny but is needed for use around the eyes, so it lasts forever.
Unfortunately the best sunscreen out of all the sunscreens I’ve tried over the past 4 months are the most expensive. Elta MD UV clear tinted is the absolute best one I’ve used but it’s freaking $40! But considering how much money I’ve spent on other sunscreens that didn’t work at all, it doesn’t seem so bad now lol Paulas Choice Daily Wrinkle Defense is also #2 on the list as it’s the only mineral sunscreen I’ve tried that doesn’t break me out. It is a bit pink on me tho
I totally agree! I wish sunscreens were cheaper but the nicer ones are the more expensive ones, which makes sense. I try to save money by sticking with drugstore skincare products and spend more on sunscreens. I'm using the La-Roche Possay ultra fluid SPF 50, which is more expensive than "drugstore" sunscreens but not too much. They just came out with a "body" version, which is the exact ingredients with the "face" version but 3 times bigger 😎😎😎. Drugstore skincare products surprisingly serve me so well that I don't even bother going back to the fancy stuff I've used before!
I love the PC spf. I use that as my foundation sometimes
try skin1004 sunscreen essence (white tube with blue lid)
The worst myth ive tried was definitely using lemon to exfoliate your face is good because it's more "natural"
Does the low pH of a cleanser truly matter, even if the cleanser contains very gentle surfactants? Does it matter if you're using products directly after cleansing that are more acidic?
This is a trendy myth, but I believed that everyone needed a 10+ step skincare routine. Thankfully, I recognized that I was wrecking my skin barrier before my face completely fell off, and gave my skin a break for a while. It was at that point that I finally focused on what was best for my skin, rather than what some skincare influencer recommended.
Common sense is great, but a lot of things in life are counterintuitive! Especially with science!! Thank you so much for these videos that are useful, critical, and real 😮💨 ❤️
Ive been using bar soap for the last three years. I have sensitive skin and I used to get back acne. Since Ive switched to soap I havent had almost any back acne and I dont have to moisturize as much. My skin has been SOOO much happier. All the research Ive tried to do says body wash is better for sensitive skin but I dont think I could ever go back.
Kudos on telling people to listen to their body. It sounds so simple but soooo many people dont do it.
Worst Myth: Sunscreen are not for kids and not for Daily use, only people having Skin Issues use
If this Myth didn't existed, I would have started wearing sunscreen way back
It's the reason I've worn sunscreen since I was a kid. Too bad the USA is horrible and the sunscreens have me a horrible allergy. I can only use them from overseas.
@@privateemail9755 which brands do you use?
I’ve been using natural skin care products for years and they irritated my skin and dried it out to much. Was also getting follicalitis. Now I use much better products but definitely not natural and my skin has been amazing.
I was wondering if using tretenoin 3 times a week was enough to get anti-aging benefits. Have studies confirmed this ? Also, is washing your face only at night better for dry skin due to tretenoin? Great video by the way. Short to the point!
Yep - there's a study that looked at maintenance three times a week!
Just found this wonderful channel, there are so many scams, lies, and psuedoscience in this industry it can be so overwhelming and confusing, thank you for this!
I've been using Biore Watery Essence Sunscreen (thanks to your channel's constant validation of the brand) since I am on the oily side and my skin has been happy all this time (not that reddish anymore). I get pimples at times but not really bothering at all.
Though it's just weird that my breakouts would be lesser when I do skincare plus makeup than skincare alone.
Misch I wear sunscreen daily for 26 years. I am 47 and most people think I am 31-32. I am doing well darling, still serving face daily after all these years.
Worst myth: More products are better (having a huge skincare “wardrobe” to chose from every day) and lots of products in a routine is better. Ugh! So, so wrong for my sensitive skin. It took me a while to work out my skin generally likes the same products all the time, and that less can be more.
I've tried a few different Vitamin C's and I don't see a difference, ever. The I'm From Rice toner and the LANEIGE Cream Skin Toner & Moisturizer has been a game changer for me.
Worst Myth: "The burning feeling means it's working."
Have been told this by several skin doctors while trying to get rid of my very Bad acne as a teen. They told me it had to burn to work. But it burned like my skin was dissolving or melting of. And left more scars then before.... i hated them
I find using things sparingly (except sunblock - Nivea factor 50 shine control for the win) generally works better. Otherwise my skin starts going a bit nuts.
I hate all the "natural=better" thinking.
Worst myth: “natural” products are better. It took me a while to question why I never saw any improvements but I payed a decent amount of money for the products
I recently got a Lidl sunscreen which is the best one I've ever used. High SPF, no white marks, non-greasy but also non-drying, doesn't irritate eyes and a fabulous base for make-up! It was about £2.50.
Ooh, will be nice if in 🇺🇸 USA. Thank you 😊
@@noneofurbusiness5223 yeah, it's hit and miss even if you go into store. They won't have it all year round. I'm probably going to have to look on ebay for my next one and no doubt the price will be higher x
Ok ok ok I am ready to try less actives daily lol. I have been trying to get used to too many actives for almost two years and I’m still having issues with dehydration in my skin. I’m going to try the three night plan you use. I’m tired of unhappy skin. I’m over it! Thanks so much for this.
I suffer from acne a lot, I've noticed the less products the better, nivea cream is good because it firms your skin while also protecting it
A small tip: do not try new ingredients on your periods and a bit before if you are prone to breakouts (hope I spelled it right 😬). As you can misinterpret the skin reaktion🤷🏻♀️
I bought a lot of products and ended up using aloe Vera and rice water for the base of products most days. A BHA peel and clay mask once a week. I rotate with moisturizer. Oil free at night (I work night shift) An all natural moisturizer with sunscreen in the day.
Re: actives, Dr Alexis Stephens has said you should try to use no more than three actives in your daily skin care routine (that's including the day and night routines).
That's a good rule!
Gothmista and you: change one skin care item @ a time.
Excellent!
the worst myth i used to follow is to fear chemicals...my skin is soo much better now that i use nice quality skincare products instead of trying to keep it "all natural". glad i learned to trust skincare scientists & dermatologists instead of confused hippies lol
hint: EVERYTHING is a chemical. chemicals found in essential oils would be very dangerous in high amounts, whereas the chemical dihydrogen monoxide is beyond healthy, and life could not exist without it.
thank you so so much for this video, i’ve been really struggling with inflammation, bumps etc and i didn’t know what i was doing wrong
Great video!! Klairs sunscreen was my favorite to wear... 😢... never had any issues with balling up when I reapplied and it didn’t sting or make me greasy.. I LOVED IT SO MUCH... I’m really hoping they will reformulate and bring back another awesome sunscreen ❤️❤️
It was really nice! I've found some similar sunscreens recently though - the Canmake Mermaid Gel is probably the closest.
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience oh I just found the canmake mermaid gel online and was thinking I should try it!
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience I've been using the canmake mermaid sunscreen since seeing your recommendation in a previous video. It's AMAZING. Definitely the closest I've found to the old klair's one and I absolutely love it. 😚
@@kate-ne does it have a shiny or greasy finish? 🤔
@@anadavalos3212 I feel like it has a slight iridescence at first, which I know sounds weird lol but I think it sits on the skin so nicely after like 10 min. I don't find it greasy at all, it's more moisturizing if anything.
I'm glad for this content, been overusing actives and tretinoin that led to inflammation-causing my skin to hyper pigment. I was wondering why I wasn't seeing any positive change. I have since scaled back and my skin is improving drastically. Going forward I'm using your advice to not overuse actives instead listen and pay attention to my skin.
Hey Michelle first off thank you so much for all the amazing scientifically-informed myth-busting you do, you're doing the lord's work!
But I thought I'd shed light from an evidence-based standpoint on something I see in every single myth-busting video, for your future reference:
I studied psych, but learned in first year science communication class that when communicating information and countering myths, repeating the myth straight up actually subconsciously reinforces the myth in the person's mind. So when people see eg. "Natural is better: MYTH. _____explanation why it's incorrect_____", it re-states the more familiar statement, and familiarity gives a subconscious bias to emphasise that point and forget the correct information which is less familiar to the person. So myth-busting can easily subtly reinforce the myth one is actually trying to counter. So a better way of busting myths is to phrase it like "Natural is not necessarily better. ______ explanation why this is true_______"
Sorry to jump in but I thought you'd appreciate the evidence-based communication tip! Love your work x
Thanks! I'm aware of that study - there's been more studies since then, and it doesn't seem to be a big concern :) www.ualberta.ca/law/media-library/faculty-research/hli/media/images/caulfield-debunking-works-vulnerable-caulfield.pdf
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience Oh amazing! Yes my unit was 7 years ago so I should have updated myself on the newer research gosh, of course you're across things x Glad to know it's not a big concern though because it's such a standard way of communicating information
I think another myth is that if you use Oil-Based cleansers like balms or straight up cleansing oils you need to use a surfactant based cleanser afterwards.That myth really dried out my skin, since I had to put water on my face twice.The oil based impurities are cleansed off by the oil, while the water-soluble ones are washed off by the water you use to wash off the cleansing oil.So unless the oil doesn't emulsify well, there is no need to use two cleansers.
Worst myth : removing peach fuzz will make the hair grow back as thick as a man's beard!
I'm so glad I learned the error. My makeup and skincare apply so much better now that I "shave" my face. You can pry dermaplaning from my cold dead hands!
I still can't help but believe this myth!!!! I'm too scared to risk it as I'm already hairy!! Lol
@@chrisfiz9246 I've been dermaplaning for over 5 years now and from one hairy person to another, you should consider it! 😊
@@chrisfiz9246 If you shave, the hair doesn't know and grows the same way. If you pluck, you will damage the follicle and can eventually cause it to stop growing. Either way, I promise you that it won't cause the hair to thicken, otherwise so many women's armpits and legs would be growing thicker hair than any man's you meet! XD
@@chrisfiz9246 same ! the problem is that my hair actually grow darker and i don’t know why. everyone’s been telling me that it’s a myth and it doesn’t but i tried to shave on only one side to compare and it did grow back thicker so it kinda sucks
@@moonchild6352 I'm definitely not trying it now after your experience!!!🤣
I used to use a cream cleanser, exfoliant, toner, serum etc for dry skin with blackheads and it became dry again not even two hours afterwards. Then I tried micellar water and vitamin E oil and now I don't have problems with my skin! I can even skip a day without putting anything on my face
I'm so glad that the sunscreen variety is much higher now than when I was a kid, but the irl store availability could definitely use some help. I work in solar I'm Southern California, and I have yet to meet a man that reapplies sunscreen during the day.
Same here. I live in Indonesia and just few mins after putting on sunscreen people easily break tons of sweat, imagine if people here have to re-apply thick heavy sunscreen on top of skin that full of sweat.
I wish skincare companies will be able to make revolutionary sunscreen products which able to work in super hot weather.
@@sereinserenity2293 they have sunscreen powder that you can apply to the face, but that's probably as good as it's going to get so you should also wear a hat and sunglasses to decrease your chances of getting skin cancer.
@@伏見猿比古-k8c Oh I saw Maybelline launched a new face powder contains SPF 44. I think that will be the best option after putting sunscreen on face.
Yes, wearing hat and protective clothes is a must. However I don't think a lot people around me go to such extense to protect their skin in high degree of Celcius. Too hot to wearing long sleeves. Hat is an okay option. Thanks a lot for your feedback 😊
Thanks for all the great information on your channel. I don’t have a university degree but very much appreciate the science and your explanations. I love that you often give more information for further information in the notes. Sometimes I feel like such an unusual person in a sense that I need to know not just that a product works but how and why and what are the benefits vs risks. You do a great job.
Worst myth?
Those outlandish claims on skincare Tiktok LOL
Prime ground for some Lab Muffin mythbusting, maybe?
Honestly I lose faith in humanity every time I go on there 🥲 But I’ve been trying!
@@LabMuffinBeautyScience lmao. You're definitely not alone
I wish you'd upload more!!! 😭❤❤❤
I didn't believe this one but I just wanna complain about "natural is always better". It is one of the worst ones. Especially with this whole beauty eco trend that is going hard at the moment. I have so many customers coming into the pharmacy screaming at the idea of "chemicals". It's really bad for sunscreen at the moment. I'm selling so many natural sunscreens as people are scared. No the all the heavy scented essential oil tree tea acne products aren't going to be better for your sensitive skin.
The worst one I probably believed as a person with sensitive skin was that "if it stings it is working". Sometimes figuring out if I'm purging or just having a reaction can be a more blurred line than it should be 😂
The crazy part about chemicals is that they are in everything including water but nobody wants to hear that, lol. People need to stop listening to the EWG. I've rarely run across a derm or skin care professional who puts stock into anything they say.
I have resilient skin. If I don't use actives everyday or every other day, I'll have those white bumps. My skin is great right now. Doesn't feel tight and I'm glowy. Just keep in mind of your skin type too.
When Michelle said "white dudes" I immediately know to which group of white dudes she was referring toand not white dudes as a general population but then I spend a lot of my time here. It's funny people announcing their departure by unsubscribing or unfollowing, like it's an airport or something, and not just here but in all forms of social media.
Say that again
Exactly. She wasn't being racist. The BLM movement has some people a tad sensitive. She was just saying that products might be better with input from people that actually use skin care products!
I don't think that the cancer and endocrine disruption issues with sunscreen ingredients should just be brushed aside.
Common SPF ingredients like oxybenzone and homosalate penetrate into the blood stream and are correlated with endometriosis in women and low testosterone in men. Maybe we should think about that before putting it on our face every single day!
"Cleanser doesn't matter" I think one I was trying was causing some severe painful breakouts for me, so I haven't used it for a week, seen a change, and it is now in the bin
My skin is better when I skip it, but that might specifically be because I have very hard water and very sensitive skin.
Definitely the exfoliation! When I started tret and was shedding like a snake I thought that was a sign that I needed to get busy with glycolic acid.My skin was PISSED off for awhile but I finally have it figured out. Thanks for the great science based content.
Great myth-busting video. Thank you for the information
When you strip oily skin of moisture with harsh cleansers it leaves it dry and barren sorta like a desert. Then when the oils inevitability return, your skin looks "flooded" with oil, just like a desert when it rains. You dont have the proper ground to absorb the oil so it sits on the cracked dry surface. Thats my impression at least
Great video! I have a question: I live in Stockholm, Sweden and during the winter the uv index is about zero. Do I really need sunscreen in the winter? The uv index given only has one number so does it represent uva or uvb or a combination of both?🤔
If it hurts, that’s means it’s working. When I was a kid, my parents used lime on my scalp due to dandruff. When I was a preteen, I started developing pretty terrible acne. They started putting lime and turmeric on my chest, back, and face. The turmeric was fine but I shudder when I think about the lime. It burned so bad. There was also a St. Ives walnut scrub phase-gave me some of the worst most painful breakouts ever.
Hi science woman, can you educate us on the cost of raw ingredients? I’ve been seeing a lot of SEA / chinese brands selling acids, niacinamide toners for as low as 2$ for 100 ml, they even have serums and spf for 5$, are these prices possible?
Lemme guess, someone's been on Lazada/Shopee and saw all the Breylee serums? heehee
First time I used hyaluronic acid the instructions said to use the whole capsule on clean dry skin, I couldn’t understand why my skin went even more dry and red. Then I looked it up and found out it goes on damp skin as it absorbs 1000s times it’s weight in water so now I use 1/4 capsule and spray my face with water before and after until it and no problems
Hey! Loved this super informative video, especially the part where you acknowledge that flaking skin can be because of underlying conditions (for example, terrible idea to try to scrub off the flaking skin from an area prone to eczema or psoriasis). Just had a quick question about using Vaseline as a 'soothing' treatment: my understanding was the Vaseline itself does not contain any lipids or any other ingredients which could be absorbed into the skin, and that is works solely as an occlusive. So whilst it should not aggravate inflamed skin, it could be trapping whatever is inflaming the skin underneath the occlusive barrier. I've always used coconut oil due its antimicrobial properties. What are your thoughts on this please? :)
BLESS YOU - was just googling to see why my normal skin was all of a sudden stinging when I go to put on products. Definitely damaged my skin barrier with too many actives 😬
re: exfoliant everyday - I use paula’s choice 10% AHA and 2% BHA every other day. When I first started I noticed a big difference in my sebaceous filaments, then after a week it went back to how it was before (super clogged looking). Even when I upped my exfoliants to everyday nothing changed. What do I do?? 😭
That also happened to me, now I use it two times a week, and I always always apply moisturizer (not serum, light cream) at the end of my routine. Happy skin now :)
I had the same problem with sebaceous filaments on the side of my nose, I used COSRX Powerblack BHA instead. I think you may need to try other products because once I added Clinique Clarifying Toner number 2 to my routine, the sebaceous filaments disappear. Now I use it once a week!