Since I discovered Suno, I have become much more productive, many ideas that I had stagnant I have been able to develop with this tool, I generate ideas and then transform them to what I want starting from scratch, because the sound quality generated is still far from being polished (luckily for us) and then from the material that Suno gives me, I build, perfect, develop or implement your idea in my composition... And it's really fun, it's like having someone else, giving you ideas about what you want to do....
Same! Been creating vocal tracks for unfinished songs from 10-15 years ago and it’s so much better than what a person could do (believe me, I auditioned numerous vocalists for the same songs). I call it “virtual collaboration”, which is a term I hope can be widely spread. And for everyone who assumes that I must be having it write songs for me with minimal effort, my new answer is “if I told you I played keyboard, would you assume that I’m just holding down one key and letting the synthesizer do all the work?”. Cheers!
many years ago (20+) i losst my passion for music what suno has done is made that too long ago fire get lit again. so now its back to suck so much info on mastering\editing\ daw and what not to make my own stuff , why i never heard of band in a box before is behond me but never the less great stuff def gponna dive into that soon , thren i can fiddle with alot of the ideas from suno with proper instrumentas rather then the gawd danm noisy instruments that suno unfortunaly very often gives back. So i thank you for telling me on this gem. def will check out much love :)
Much more on Band in a Box please! I've been using it for about five years and it is excellent, the manual is comprehensive (and large!) but watching your turorial was quick and easy to follow.I have subscribed in the hope of more. Thanks for your work.😃
This was very interesting. As an elderly musician and producer who's seen it all I agree with your idea that musicians and producers need to work with the latest tech to raise their game. However, useful though this technique may be, I imagine the AI will have been suitably upscaled by the end of the year. It's only a matter of time before someone designs a DAW that runs entirely on AI, and does it at any bitrate and sample frequency you like, rendering workarounds like this one obsolete. [One last thing - I'd forgotten all about Band in a Box! I had no idea it was still a thing. Looks wonderfully retro. I must check it out!]
Amazing. I was wondering how actual musicians would use Suno. Like you said at the start, AI is an enabler, not a replacer. Much like Band in a Box which has been around for an eternity. ❤
Agreed with you... And I say: To disown technology is stupid, this is the way the industry is going, the world in general... whether we like it or not, so the best we can do is adapt and use it to our advantage.
Suno can be used alongside other tools to produce music and people should not feel bad using it. I've been writing songs for years and never have been able to fully express myself. Working a Full-time job, limited funds, etc. Suno replaces musicians the same way band in a box does. Being able use a sample of your voice to extend and personalize your songs is life changing.
I've been editing the generated songs in an audio editor... cutting, overlapping parts (I generate more than one version of the same song, so I have several excerpts available) , and inserting real lines (me playing and singing)... it's really fun and results in interesting things... at least for me, obviously, since I'm not a professional. And I also think it’s essential to use non-artificial lyrics. I will certainly include the band-in-a-box in the creation process. Thanks for the tip ;)
Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Nice and chilled out, no quirky gimmicks and plenty of actual examples of using the AI alongside advising about it.
@@BobDoyleMedia Have you tried grabbing the split vocal track and throwing it through RVC? I guess the SUNO vocal track might be too low quality but it might improve it somewhat.
Somehow can't write comments here...they always dissapear. so just a short one, cause I am tired of writing it again and again. (did it 2 times) Thank you for the great video!!! The band in a box is very expensive. Is it worth to invest so much money in it?
I am so glad I have found this video, I have struggled using BIAB for years and you explained three or four things in5 minutes, amazing! You have got a subscriber now 😊
The whole appeal of BIAB is that you get to feed it the chord progression of a song YOU wrote. But here, the AI writes the chord progression, which takes away the entire creative process. No musician wants this.
Holy Cow Batman; err Bob Doyle! :) Great video. I love how you've made several videos showcasing AI working with Band-in-a-Box. I sincerely hope you will continue creating videos using Band-in-a-Box with other applications. Are you aware your videos are featured in the PG Music forum? Exciting stuff.
I love BIAB (for years) and enjoy the quality and control I get. Suno was an isolated island for me, and thanks to you, I could expand my technical skills to get the best of three worlds - Suno, BIAB and my musicianship 😅
Posting another one tomorrow (that's the plan, anyway) that gets into using it to generate vocal harmonies for use in other DAWS. BnB has its own internal vocal (tc-helicon stuff) harmony generator that I'll be doing still another video for.
Great tips! I've used Band-In-A-Box for all my songs to some extent and just discovered Suno. Songwriting is what I'm most comfortable with so I'll probably use Suno to get inspiration for melodies and chord progressions.
I see music creators as being very much editors - if I play guitar I will filter out the “good bits” from all the ideas I come up with. It’s the same with AI, use it as a tool and apply your judgement to what it produces.
I love this video. Thank you sincerely. I was specifically looking for a way to enhance suno's output without having to interact with actual people, with the possible exception of the voice.
Definitely interested in a more in depth vid on this. Especially tools for replacing Sunos highly compressed and clipped vocals with high fidelity vocals. Also interested in which DAWS would work best for beginners to transfer Band In a Box instrumentals to and how to improve instrument fidelity as well.
I have been using BIAB which their first release and appreciate this video and agree with you that the joy of music is the goal not how we create the tools. Products like BIAB and SynthV has made me more creative and allows me to do more work for clients quicker, for less cost and with more variation. Only once did I have a client freak out because I used a tool like Band-in-the-box. I am exploring ways to use Suno and other next generation composing tools to my work flow. Thanks for the video.
Great vid. I'm a long time BIaB user (and agree that it's so deep, you never use all the features). My current wish is that Suno let you export the various stems. I might try some of the 'separation' software that's out there just to see how that works. That would make it a lot easier to work with stuff like Toontrack or Melodyne.
Great video, thanks! I bought Band in a Box years ago and never really used it. Now I can see a great use for it! Thanks for taking the time to show how it's done, Bob. 👍🙏
This is the first time i have seen someone putting in the chords and tempo. I have been doing that with the different AI music generators that i use and seem to get better music and even the vocals seem to get better. But some of the systems are limited in how long your prompt can be, so you can't always get all of the chords in that you want.. I had not considered using Band in a Box to get more control over the music. Thans for the video and the idea!
There's also a web that will match any lyrics with an AI voice singing them. Used it to create my own cover of a song I like, but as a guitarist, not singer, found it amazing to get a vocal performance that sounded not only better than splitting out a stem vocal, but also had my choice of vocalist voices...
Suno lets you get stems now (since idk when) but the instrumental stems often have these warbling remnants of the vocals. Will be interesting to see how vocalremover compares.
I am not a "real" musician, but I am a real lyricist. In the past, I produced my own song demos in my home studio. Hardly the voice, musicianship, and production values one ideally wants for maximum showcasing of my songs. I call it a Bernie Taupin miracle machine. Suno v3 is my Elton John.
Yep, Suno needs to be able to produce vocal & instrument Stems!! The quality would be better than using software to separate the parts, plus us that like to DJ would be totally hooked!! They need to get it done!! I'm sure they will realize how cool this would be and add the feature.
Excellent content. Thanks. It would be nice if suno provided the option of downloading a midi file and a separate audio file for the vocals. Until then, I would love to learn more simple tricks and techniques for modifying and editing suno’s output that can practically be used by a novice.
Hey Bob, I've been trying to match up audio with band in a box much to my frustration. I will keep at it, but this video is great. The audio starts before BiB, I can't find where to shut the count in off or grab the audio and slide it up to the measure where BiB starts. You are great at explaining the inter workings of these programs. There's a million videos on BiB, but the way you explain things I seem to comprehend your expertise better than most. Any videos you could make more in depth concerning the audio would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.......
Hmmm. Looks to me you're not able to combine the STRENGHTS of the 2 programs. I want the SOUND, especially the vocals (high fidility, granted) of SUNO, with the FLEXIBILITY/ADAPTABILITY of BiaB. Because you can't put a chord structure in Suno, right? So that's not a good basis. And you can't create soul vocals in BiaB. Sadly.
The problem with using AI and technology in general so deeply in music creation is that you can't express yourself when your mind is focused on harnessing the technology instead of your expression.
Hi, great stuff. Honestly I don't care too much about BiaB, but the hability to separate vocals from backing for Suno songs is great... Now I will be able to sing my own songs with a Suno backing track. Thanks.
I’m gonna have to play with this. I just discovered Suno last week and have already put several songs out. They work well enough for me as is. But if I can mage them sound better, bonus! Especially my favorite song I’ve made about Vincent Price called “King of Fright!”
I've just started to mess with Suno this past week, it's really cool. Currently my plan was to separate out the stems and hire artists to perform them, then reassemble. :)
great video, i would like to know to import my own daw studio wav into a A.I like suno to get a singingline on my music by importing the text. Is that possible?
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Thanks 4 the vid Bob, what really sorprised me was this BBox option! I can get any audio, it will generate comping for diferents instruments and then I can export midi and use my own vst I understand, awesome! I was looking a toy like that. Suno wise, yes it sounds great and you can put lyrics but still is very average, can't customize shit. I get the thing that makes people to flip, but in my case, being a musician, it's not that great.
Yes please, a full tutorial about how to turn AI songs into own instrument changes (in other programs). I would love that! Thank you for your channel! Are there website alternatives to Band in a Box?
the whole voice extraction replacement is not there yet. Add to it lo quality of suno. But as presented in the video like a tool for development of ideas to later record is game changer
Thank you for your videos. Can we do more Band in a Box. I believe with AI music generator getting more popular, many see the need to incorporate the process with other tools like BIAB. It will help creators to generate better music. It enhances the creation process. Hope to see more tutorials that focus on BIAB. Thanks again!
I was wondering what year of audio chord wizard you are using as it does not work as well in 2024 also thinking of reverting or adding one of the old vertions to my hard drive you make finding the bars look so easy!!
What’s the purpose of music? It’s about evoking emotions. Can a song make you feel excited, melancholic, energetic, or sad? Can it make you stand up and dance? Can it make you reflect on something substantial? This should be the aim of music. I feel like many people wouldn’t care whether it’s AI generated or not. As long as it makes them feel something.
I take it you’re not a musician or a song writer. You do have a point. It’s a logical straight shootin point. You missin so many things. Let me give you just one. The reason AI can creates the music it does is something I bet you haven’t thought about. The AI regardless of what site you use is not a musician either yet it creates music, it’s not a singer yet it create vocals. And how do you think it does that exactly. Well in a split second it takes all the music of the genre that you want that has ever been uploaded to the Internet keep in mind these are other people songs there are mostly copywritten songs made by professionals songs made by amateurs song made by people and it puts it in a metaphorical blender and juices out your song. Have you ever wondered why these songs that you were making online are almost if not free and maybe they charge a couple bucks for the service but not the music. It’s because we’re going into uncharted areas and no one wants to get the first lawsuit. Everyone’s testing the waters.. so it’s very easy for you to not musician that has never put as many years as musicians to write a song, and not only to write a song, but write a song that is copywritten and selling, be taken and used as building material for all the songs that AI is creating for people. So you wouldn’t care. That doesn’t matter though because musicians do. And yes, it does matter where the come from just like it matters where diamonds come from, fortunately, for children, no one cares about them yet because people buy their products every day from China and India because they want shit cheap and people love their shit.. but still no one wants diamonds mind by slaves. Who gives a fuck about children, right?
@@willnada I get your concerns about the ethical implications of AI-generated music, especially when it comes to the use of existing musical data. The idea that AI "steals" data from other artists raises valid questions about intellectual property rights and artistic integrity. Especially since data are a new currency and will increasingly become more valuable. AI companies should never be allowed to use data from artists without any permission. If they did, legal actions should be taken. However, it needs to be pointed out that the use of existing musical data in AI-generated music is not unique to this technology. Human musicians have long been influenced by the work of their predecessors, drawing inspiration from past compositions and building upon them to create something new. Have you never been inspired by other artists? You don't need any AI to find a lot of elements from pre-existing songs in recently published songs. Even without the use of AI. AI uses data from artists, yes. But artists do, too. sense, That being said, it's crucial to address any potential copyright issues and ensure that proper credit is given to the original creators of the musical data used by AI algorithms. This could involve implementing licensing agreements or developing mechanisms for royalties to compensate artists whose work contributes to AI-generated compositions.Ultimately, the goal should be to strike a balance between fostering innovation and creativity while respecting the rights and contributions of artists. There could and probably will be partnerships between AI companies and artists. They already exist. The future is here. Let's hope it will be rather a blessing and enrichment than a curse.
@@Adan_Ivory of course I’ve been inspired but I don’t have a blender. . . these are two different scenarios for someone that is not trying to copy a song. In one scenario I’m inspired by a song as I’m jaming with the song I go off path and find melody after melody that are not in the song but inspired by the feel the lyrics the production the chords. And when I make the track, the chords might even be exactly the same but they’re gonna be the same in many songs, because popular music cord combinations, are reused because there aren’t enough courts. But everything that’s created is original. The second scenario is I sample one second . I used part of the song in my song let’s say the piece is not even a second long. am II infringing? If someone hears the tree fall You better believe it’s going to exist.. so if someone else catches it especially the right someone you’re gonna be paying up. But that’s because I’m human I’m not capable to splicing up 1000 songs 1 million songs 1,000,000,000 songs to come up with a song out of that only a machine can do that except the machine is built by a human so it’s just a tool used to do the same exact thing that we just said was illegal. And that’s OK? so the take away is the better the tool you have to do something illegal the less illegal it becomes? I’m not sure I’m ever going to agree with that fallacy. It only looks like magic because nobody knows how it works but it’s just tech
As you can probably tell from my username and channel how I feel about Ai generated music, even though I'm a musician. At the moment, I'm not recreating the tracks because of the nature of my project. It would take too long to build the kind of catalog I need and the quality of Suno V3 is good enough for UA-cam listeners. But I do plan to use Suno to compose songs that I will recreate and I wonder how many professional songwriters are doing exactly that right now. When it comes to copyright, they simply won't say that the music was Ai generated and because they recreated it, there isn't any evidence of it.
I think that’s the best use of Suno in its early stages. This is an amazing “concept” tool where you can hear some ideas and recreate them into a full project yourself Obviously as the tech gets better and their voice modules become more clear, this will become a more viable option to create a final product out the box
@@gotopiz 💯%. Things will change quickly. Learn it now with an open mind because it will eventually be THE writing tool for demos and then releasable tracks. There are also several ways to monetize this without needing to worry about copyright when it's part of a bigger money making endeavor you control. The sooner, the better position you're in when the dam breaks.
Just curious about cleaning up vocals more. Some tips on how to remove that compressed sound from them. Great video I have been cleaning sudo songs the best I could with audacity.. lots of work.
Could anyone kindly provide assistance in obtaining the Band-in-a-Box software? I am eager to acquire it for educational purposes and expand my proficiency in its utilization.
I came across your channel while looking for improvements for Suno Music. Thank you for introducing Band in a Box, wonderful software, but too big for my musical needs. Is there any software that can improve Suno songs in a simpler way?
Fantastic video, Bob. Would love to see more of these AI/conversion/music/vocals/generation kinds of videos, which you're so great at showing us. Really appreciate all you're doing for us! Ben
Tho mei na Mera song generate Kiya suno ai pe uska loop mujhe bhot pasand aaya spilt kar ke sirf uska hi loop Mei na mera song pe used kiya tho copyright nhi ya koi future mei problem nhi hoga na plz reply me
Very very interestinmg (and i already have over 50 songs (funny, not something serious) ready from Suno. But what is also very interesting here is the closing of the video. How did you do it? ( I LOVE it)
Hi, fantastic content! Question, how and what exact prompt did you use to tell Suno to have a decent intro instrumental like your song here? Suno always starts the song immediately with verse 1 and it's kinda annoying coz many times we'd like to have a decent intro instrumental before the singing starts. Any tips?
Wow! This is Amazing! Can you please do a full tutorial on this ??? Also how can we add our vocals to it? Thank you! Best Channel ever! :) Blessings your way Bob Doyle! :)
Thanks for your prompt reply! I just found out I can use biab as a plugin in Logic pro, so I will record my vocals there! This is amazing! Thanks for sharing all your knowledge with us all and for your time and dedication! I'm super grateful! 😊
Your videos are really good, I'm learning too much from you. I have an issue with Suno, I have a song which I like it but for some reason the vocals made a weird pronunciation in some phrases. How I could replace the bad pronunciation without change the music? Is there any way to patch it? Best Regards.
can you do electronic dance music with the band in a box thingy? I am trying to make the sound sound a lot clearer because sometimes i get weird distorted sound on Suno AI
I haven't updated Cubase since version 5 so I don't know if they do stems or not, but there are several other online sources for that, with varying levels of quality.
If you use RVC you can take the vocals you've separated out from the music, and swap them for a "real" singer. The programme will follow the original vocals exactly but with the new voice. You'd want clean up the original as much as possible first, and it does keep things like accents, but if you want to use the same singer in multiple songs then that's one way to do it.
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Since I discovered Suno, I have become much more productive, many ideas that I had stagnant I have been able to develop with this tool, I generate ideas and then transform them to what I want starting from scratch, because the sound quality generated is still far from being polished (luckily for us) and then from the material that Suno gives me, I build, perfect, develop or implement your idea in my composition... And it's really fun, it's like having someone else, giving you ideas about what you want to do....
Same! Been creating vocal tracks for unfinished songs from 10-15 years ago and it’s so much better than what a person could do (believe me, I auditioned numerous vocalists for the same songs). I call it “virtual collaboration”, which is a term I hope can be widely spread. And for everyone who assumes that I must be having it write songs for me with minimal effort, my new answer is “if I told you I played keyboard, would you assume that I’m just holding down one key and letting the synthesizer do all the work?”. Cheers!
agree with you completely!
many years ago (20+) i losst my passion for music what suno has done is made that too long ago fire get lit again. so now its back to suck so much info on mastering\editing\ daw and what not to make my own stuff , why i never heard of band in a box before is behond me but never the less great stuff def gponna dive into that soon , thren i can fiddle with alot of the ideas from suno with proper instrumentas rather then the gawd danm noisy instruments that suno unfortunaly very often gives back. So i thank you for telling me on this gem. def will check out much love :)
Much more on Band in a Box please! I've been using it for about five years and it is excellent, the manual is comprehensive (and large!) but watching your turorial was quick and easy to follow.I have subscribed in the hope of more. Thanks for your work.😃
Thank you. I am new to Suno but have been a Band in A Box user and fan for years. I am thrilled they work together.
This was very interesting. As an elderly musician and producer who's seen it all I agree with your idea that musicians and producers need to work with the latest tech to raise their game. However, useful though this technique may be, I imagine the AI will have been suitably upscaled by the end of the year. It's only a matter of time before someone designs a DAW that runs entirely on AI, and does it at any bitrate and sample frequency you like, rendering workarounds like this one obsolete.
[One last thing - I'd forgotten all about Band in a Box! I had no idea it was still a thing. Looks wonderfully retro. I must check it out!]
I agree that all of this will become obsolete very very soon.
You're a natural teacher and presenter, perfect explanation, thanks.
Very nice of you to say!!
@@BobDoyleMediasir can i distribute my suno ai songs to distribution platforms like distrokid, tunecore and many more? is anyone known about that?
@@mr_anasaltafyes but supposedly you are not supposed to on the free plan.
@@zenmasterjay1 are you sure? Because now I'm going to buy the paid plan
Amazing. I was wondering how actual musicians would use Suno. Like you said at the start, AI is an enabler, not a replacer. Much like Band in a Box which has been around for an eternity. ❤
Not yet...
Agreed with you... And I say: To disown technology is stupid, this is the way the industry is going, the world in general... whether we like it or not, so the best we can do is adapt and use it to our advantage.
This is it. I've been exporting from BIAB to Cubase Pro for a few years now, this is another weapon in the armoury. thanks for the heads up.
I did this last year with Suno V2 and BiaB. Results were ok, but I ended up changing the progression and style to fit my playing.
I export suno songs to logic and did some Eq and mastering and it sounds wonderful.
Suno can be used alongside other tools to produce music and people should not feel bad using it. I've been writing songs for years and never have been able to fully express myself. Working a Full-time job, limited funds, etc. Suno replaces musicians the same way band in a box does. Being able use a sample of your voice to extend and personalize your songs is life changing.
I've been editing the generated songs in an audio editor... cutting, overlapping parts (I generate more than one version of the same song, so I have several excerpts available) , and inserting real lines (me playing and singing)... it's really fun and results in interesting things... at least for me, obviously, since I'm not a professional. And I also think it’s essential to use non-artificial lyrics. I will certainly include the band-in-a-box in the creation process. Thanks for the tip ;)
Your videos are always a pleasure to watch. Nice and chilled out, no quirky gimmicks and plenty of actual examples of using the AI alongside advising about it.
Thanks so much!
@@BobDoyleMedia Have you tried grabbing the split vocal track and throwing it through RVC? I guess the SUNO vocal track might be too low quality but it might improve it somewhat.
Somehow can't write comments here...they always dissapear. so just a short one, cause I am tired of writing it again and again. (did it 2 times)
Thank you for the great video!!!
The band in a box is very expensive. Is it worth to invest so much money in it?
@@Diamond-Cat If you watch the demo video there and are inspired to create, then absolutely yes.
@BobDoyleMedia thank you. That is a good advice, I wil check it out!!
I am so glad I have found this video, I have struggled using BIAB for years and you explained three or four things in5 minutes, amazing! You have got a subscriber now 😊
Wow, that’s great to hear! I feel like I barely did band in a box justice in this video.
@@BobDoyleMedia I'm looking forward to you showing more BIAB tips & tricks in the future 😁
The whole appeal of BIAB is that you get to feed it the chord progression of a song YOU wrote. But here, the AI writes the chord progression, which takes away the entire creative process. No musician wants this.
Great presentation. I have been wanting to create non copyrighted music for some time and this appears like a great place to start.
Holy Cow Batman; err Bob Doyle! :) Great video.
I love how you've made several videos showcasing AI working with Band-in-a-Box. I sincerely hope you will continue creating videos using Band-in-a-Box with other applications. Are you aware your videos are featured in the PG Music forum? Exciting stuff.
I love BIAB (for years) and enjoy the quality and control I get. Suno was an isolated island for me, and thanks to you, I could expand my technical skills to get the best of three worlds - Suno, BIAB and my musicianship 😅
Thanks! I know this video was super high-level, but once you get the concept...
I haven't used it since the 90 's I didn't even thought it still existed
Very nice to mix two complete different era together
Posting another one tomorrow (that's the plan, anyway) that gets into using it to generate vocal harmonies for use in other DAWS. BnB has its own internal vocal (tc-helicon stuff) harmony generator that I'll be doing still another video for.
Great tips! I've used Band-In-A-Box for all my songs to some extent and just discovered Suno. Songwriting is what I'm most comfortable with so I'll probably use Suno to get inspiration for melodies and chord progressions.
I see music creators as being very much editors - if I play guitar I will filter out the “good bits” from all the ideas I come up with. It’s the same with AI, use it as a tool and apply your judgement to what it produces.
Whoaaaa! Band in a box is freaking awesome. Thx for sharing man 🍻
My pleasure! It’s a hell of a program. It even creates vocal harmonies and things like that.
@@BobDoyleMedia too awesome
I love this video. Thank you sincerely. I was specifically looking for a way to enhance suno's output without having to interact with actual people, with the possible exception of the voice.
Definitely interested in a more in depth vid on this. Especially tools for replacing Sunos highly compressed and clipped vocals with high fidelity vocals. Also interested in which DAWS would work best for beginners to transfer Band In a Box instrumentals to and how to improve instrument fidelity as well.
I have been using BIAB which their first release and appreciate this video and agree with you that the joy of music is the goal not how we create the tools. Products like BIAB and SynthV has made me more creative and allows me to do more work for clients quicker, for less cost and with more variation. Only once did I have a client freak out because I used a tool like Band-in-the-box. I am exploring ways to use Suno and other next generation composing tools to my work flow. Thanks for the video.
Great vid. I'm a long time BIaB user (and agree that it's so deep, you never use all the features). My current wish is that Suno let you export the various stems. I might try some of the 'separation' software that's out there just to see how that works. That would make it a lot easier to work with stuff like Toontrack or Melodyne.
Great video, thanks! I bought Band in a Box years ago and never really used it. Now I can see a great use for it! Thanks for taking the time to show how it's done, Bob. 👍🙏
This is the first time i have seen someone putting in the chords and tempo.
I have been doing that with the different AI music generators that i use and seem to get better music and even the vocals seem to get better.
But some of the systems are limited in how long your prompt can be, so you can't always get all of the chords in that you want..
I had not considered using Band in a Box to get more control over the music.
Thans for the video and the idea!
There's also a web that will match any lyrics with an AI voice singing them. Used it to create my own cover of a song I like, but as a guitarist, not singer, found it amazing to get a vocal performance that sounded not only better than splitting out a stem vocal, but also had my choice of vocalist voices...
link?
What’s the link please
OMG!! Half of my heart wants to start doing this immediately, but let's finish my indie game first and then boost the soundtrack with this ;)
Suno lets you get stems now (since idk when) but the instrumental stems often have these warbling remnants of the vocals. Will be interesting to see how vocalremover compares.
WOW! I am so happy that you are THE Bob Doyle who helped me with your audio, books and videos from 20 years ago. Happy to find you again.
Very nice of you to say!
Why this is game changing! And individual control over the instruments!
This is so fantastic! I once had BB years ago - I never found any use in it. Now I do!
Yes! AI has really brought BB back to life for me!
I am not a "real" musician, but I am a real lyricist. In the past, I produced my own song demos in my home studio. Hardly the voice, musicianship, and production values one ideally wants for maximum showcasing of my songs. I call it a Bernie Taupin miracle machine. Suno v3 is my Elton John.
Amazing to meet here my copy!!! Same history
My wife, she is a musician, composer said this music serves to your poetry, demonstrates how good your lyrics is
@@PavelIshanov Da! You married a good woman.
AI ripping musicians. Musicians ripping AI. You can't make this stuff up. 😂
This pisses me off tbh that’s crazy
@NatanSupel Every musician takes from influences. Anyone claiming they don't absorb and apply influences is a liar.
Imagine someone took credit from you at your work
@@marcduchamp5512 Imagine claiming you performed creative work that had zero influence from previous work.
Gotta love it
band in a box is awesome nice to see it given some love , its crazy its not more popular then it is.
Why do i find myself adding every video you make to my favorites. And I'm not even a musician, not even close 🙂
hey, just stumbled across this video. Keep up the good work, brother! 🎉
Great suggestions about tools to combine with AI. I appreciate the reminder about BIAB. My first version was decades ago.
Yes, it sits on my hard drive, mostly unused, and I'll upgrade it about every 5 years or so just because I'm that way.
Great video! Thanks a lot. Would be great if You could dive in a little deeper into the steps in a later video.
Yep, Suno needs to be able to produce vocal & instrument Stems!! The quality would be better than using software to separate the parts, plus us that like to DJ would be totally hooked!! They need to get it done!! I'm sure they will realize how cool this would be and add the feature.
Hello Bob. Thanks for all the ideas you give here! I am in too.
Excellent content. Thanks. It would be nice if suno provided the option of downloading a midi file and a separate audio file for the vocals. Until then, I would love to learn more simple tricks and techniques for modifying and editing suno’s output that can practically be used by a novice.
Hey Bob, I've been trying to match up audio with band in a box much to my frustration. I will keep at it, but this video is great. The audio starts before BiB, I can't find where to shut the count in off or grab the audio and slide it up to the measure where BiB starts. You are great at explaining the inter workings of these programs. There's a million videos on BiB, but the way you explain things I seem to comprehend your expertise better than most. Any videos you could make more in depth concerning the audio would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.......
Incredible. Great tutorial!
Thank you!
Man this was a great video! Thanks for taking out the time to do this. I gotta look into Band In A Box.
Hmmm. Looks to me you're not able to combine the STRENGHTS of the 2 programs. I want the SOUND, especially the vocals (high fidility, granted) of SUNO, with the FLEXIBILITY/ADAPTABILITY of BiaB.
Because you can't put a chord structure in Suno, right? So that's not a good basis. And you can't create soul vocals in BiaB. Sadly.
The problem with using AI and technology in general so deeply in music creation is that you can't express yourself when your mind is focused on harnessing the technology instead of your expression.
Hi, great stuff. Honestly I don't care too much about BiaB, but the hability to separate vocals from backing for Suno songs is great... Now I will be able to sing my own songs with a Suno backing track. Thanks.
I’m gonna have to play with this. I just discovered Suno last week and have already put several songs out. They work well enough for me as is. But if I can mage them sound better, bonus! Especially my favorite song I’ve made about Vincent Price called “King of Fright!”
After +30 years I can do pretty much whatever I want without helpers like these, but hey, still have curious to learn more. Thanks for the video
I've just started to mess with Suno this past week, it's really cool. Currently my plan was to separate out the stems and hire artists to perform them, then reassemble. :)
Did you figure our how to separate the stems?
@@markushutto4017 There are various AI options, but the one I ended up using was RipX. It seemed to worked the best. Has a free demo.
Just what I was looking for! Thanks Bob
Great! Glad to hear it!
such clarity and spark --- thx Bob
LOVE THIS
I know people don't like it but this is the new way..
great video, i would like to know to import my own daw studio wav into a A.I like suno to get a singingline on my music by importing the text. Is that possible?
*I like your thinking my friend when it comes to music producers and how we can use it as a helpful tool*
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wow, I haven't heard about Band in a Box since I was generating MIDI with it in the 90s! I had no idea it was still a thing!
Music evolves, back then when Reel to Reel was phased out and daw introduced, many engineers thought it’s the end of the world and computers are taking over. Today the engineers enjoy the process of recording on Pro Tools
Thanks 4 the vid Bob, what really sorprised me was this BBox option! I can get any audio, it will generate comping for diferents instruments and then I can export midi and use my own vst I understand, awesome! I was looking a toy like that. Suno wise, yes it sounds great and you can put lyrics but still is very average, can't customize shit. I get the thing that makes people to flip, but in my case, being a musician, it's not that great.
Yes please, a full tutorial about how to turn AI songs into own instrument changes (in other programs). I would love that! Thank you for your channel! Are there website alternatives to Band in a Box?
the whole voice extraction replacement is not there yet. Add to it lo quality of suno. But as presented in the video like a tool for development of ideas to later record is game changer
Thank you for your videos. Can we do more Band in a Box. I believe with AI music generator getting more popular, many see the need to incorporate the process with other tools like BIAB. It will help creators to generate better music. It enhances the creation process. Hope to see more tutorials that focus on BIAB. Thanks again!
Hmm thanks for this insight, definitely good nuggets.
Exactly what I wanted! Thanks a lot for doing this
Great! Glad it was helpful!
Very informative, thank you for this very clear and detailed presentation !
I was wondering what year of audio chord wizard you are using as it does not work as well in 2024 also thinking of reverting or adding one of the old vertions to my hard drive you make finding the bars look so easy!!
What’s the purpose of music? It’s about evoking emotions. Can a song make you feel excited, melancholic, energetic, or sad? Can it make you stand up and dance? Can it make you reflect on something substantial? This should be the aim of music. I feel like many people wouldn’t care whether it’s AI generated or not. As long as it makes them feel something.
I take it you’re not a musician or a song writer. You do have a point. It’s a logical straight shootin point. You missin so many things. Let me give you just one. The reason AI can creates the music it does is something I bet you haven’t thought about. The AI regardless of what site you use is not a musician either yet it creates music, it’s not a singer yet it create vocals. And how do you think it does that exactly. Well in a split second it takes all the music of the genre that you want that has ever been uploaded to the Internet keep in mind these are other people songs there are mostly copywritten songs made by professionals songs made by amateurs song made by people and it puts it in a metaphorical blender and juices out your song. Have you ever wondered why these songs that you were making online are almost if not free and maybe they charge a couple bucks for the service but not the music. It’s because we’re going into uncharted areas and no one wants to get the first lawsuit. Everyone’s testing the waters.. so it’s very easy for you to not musician that has never put as many years as musicians to write a song, and not only to write a song, but write a song that is copywritten and selling, be taken and used as building material for all the songs that AI is creating for people. So you wouldn’t care. That doesn’t matter though because musicians do. And yes, it does matter where the come from just like it matters where diamonds come from, fortunately, for children, no one cares about them yet because people buy their products every day from China and India because they want shit cheap and people love their shit.. but still no one wants diamonds mind by slaves. Who gives a fuck about children, right?
@@willnada I get your concerns about the ethical implications of AI-generated music, especially when it comes to the use of existing musical data. The idea that AI "steals" data from other artists raises valid questions about intellectual property rights and artistic integrity. Especially since data are a new currency and will increasingly become more valuable. AI companies should never be allowed to use data from artists without any permission. If they did, legal actions should be taken. However, it needs to be pointed out that the use of existing musical data in AI-generated music is not unique to this technology. Human musicians have long been influenced by the work of their predecessors, drawing inspiration from past compositions and building upon them to create something new. Have you never been inspired by other artists? You don't need any AI to find a lot of elements from pre-existing songs in recently published songs. Even without the use of AI. AI uses data from artists, yes. But artists do, too. sense,
That being said, it's crucial to address any potential copyright issues and ensure that proper credit is given to the original creators of the musical data used by AI algorithms. This could involve implementing licensing agreements or developing mechanisms for royalties to compensate artists whose work contributes to AI-generated compositions.Ultimately, the goal should be to strike a balance between fostering innovation and creativity while respecting the rights and contributions of artists. There could and probably will be partnerships between AI companies and artists. They already exist.
The future is here.
Let's hope it will be rather a blessing and enrichment than a curse.
@@Adan_Ivory of course I’ve been inspired but I don’t have a blender. . . these are two different scenarios
for someone that is not trying to copy a song. In one scenario I’m inspired by a song as I’m jaming with the song I go off path and find melody after melody that are not in the song but inspired by the feel the lyrics the production the chords. And when I make the track, the chords might even be exactly the same but they’re gonna be the same in many songs, because popular music cord combinations, are reused because there aren’t enough courts. But everything that’s created is original.
The second scenario is I sample one second . I used part of the song in my song let’s say the piece is not even a second long. am II infringing?
If someone hears the tree fall
You better believe it’s going to exist.. so if someone else catches it especially the right someone you’re gonna be paying up. But that’s because I’m human I’m not capable to splicing up 1000 songs 1 million songs 1,000,000,000 songs to come up with a song out of that only a machine can do that except the machine is built by a human so it’s just a tool used to do the same exact thing that we just said was illegal. And that’s OK?
so the take away is the better the tool you have to do something illegal the less illegal it becomes?
I’m not sure I’m ever going to agree with that fallacy.
It only looks like magic because nobody knows how it works but it’s just tech
Cool! A commercial for band in a box!
As you can probably tell from my username and channel how I feel about Ai generated music, even though I'm a musician. At the moment, I'm not recreating the tracks because of the nature of my project. It would take too long to build the kind of catalog I need and the quality of Suno V3 is good enough for UA-cam listeners. But I do plan to use Suno to compose songs that I will recreate and I wonder how many professional songwriters are doing exactly that right now. When it comes to copyright, they simply won't say that the music was Ai generated and because they recreated it, there isn't any evidence of it.
I think that’s the best use of Suno in its early stages. This is an amazing “concept” tool where you can hear some ideas and recreate them into a full project yourself
Obviously as the tech gets better and their voice modules become more clear, this will become a more viable option to create a final product out the box
@@gotopiz 💯%. Things will change quickly. Learn it now with an open mind because it will eventually be THE writing tool for demos and then releasable tracks. There are also several ways to monetize this without needing to worry about copyright when it's part of a bigger money making endeavor you control. The sooner, the better position you're in when the dam breaks.
Madness. The best Suno track I’ve heard released so far is Go Low by Gallis
For better vocal extraction the new AUDACITY AI plug ins are good.
Just learned about these plugins last week! Haven’t tested them yet!
Whats the plugin called?
Just curious about cleaning up vocals more. Some tips on how to remove that compressed sound from them. Great video I have been cleaning sudo songs the best I could with audacity.. lots of work.
Yeah, this is where we're straying from my expertise. These are all the same things I'm looking for tools for as well.
this was useful, thank you
Thank you for providing such valuable and clear information!
Bob can you get rid of the auto tune from the vocals at all from sunno
Could anyone kindly provide assistance in obtaining the Band-in-a-Box software? I am eager to acquire it for educational purposes and expand my proficiency in its utilization.
It’s available at pgmusic.com if that’s what you’re asking.
Wow it seems you are having fun
first time watching! thank you for band in a box;)
Great stuff and would be very interested in more Band in a box info. Next stop, getting that software since i have some songs to work on....
I came across your channel while looking for improvements for Suno Music.
Thank you for introducing Band in a Box, wonderful software, but too big for my musical needs. Is there any software that can improve Suno songs in a simpler way?
Fantastic video, Bob. Would love to see more of these AI/conversion/music/vocals/generation kinds of videos, which you're so great at showing us. Really appreciate all you're doing for us! Ben
This is nuts! thank you!!
Tho mei na Mera song generate Kiya suno ai pe uska loop mujhe bhot pasand aaya spilt kar ke sirf uska hi loop Mei na mera song pe used kiya tho copyright nhi ya koi future mei problem nhi hoga na plz reply me
Very very interestinmg (and i already have over 50 songs (funny, not something serious) ready from Suno. But what is also very interesting here is the closing of the video. How did you do it? ( I LOVE it)
Woow cool i need it!
Hi, fantastic content! Question, how and what exact prompt did you use to tell Suno to have a decent intro instrumental like your song here? Suno always starts the song immediately with verse 1 and it's kinda annoying coz many times we'd like to have a decent intro instrumental before the singing starts. Any tips?
You should use Audimee to replace the suno vocals . That would make a huge difference
Wow! This is Amazing! Can you please do a full tutorial on this ??? Also how can we add our vocals to it? Thank you! Best Channel ever! :) Blessings your way Bob Doyle! :)
Thank you! I’m definitely due for another band in a box video.
Can you clarify which stage of the process you want to add your own vocals?
Thanks for your prompt reply! I just found out I can use biab as a plugin in Logic pro, so I will record my vocals there! This is amazing! Thanks for sharing all your knowledge with us all and for your time and dedication! I'm super grateful! 😊
@@lauratomas4369 Thanks, Laura! I appreciate the kind words!
Great information I can use. I create karaoke videos using Finale and Band in a Box. Thank you very much.
Your videos are really good, I'm learning too much from you. I have an issue with Suno, I have a song which I like it but for some reason the vocals made a weird pronunciation in some phrases. How I could replace the bad pronunciation without change the music? Is there any way to patch it? Best Regards.
pretty cool
Ai was like “ did you just do what i did to you?”😂
can you do electronic dance music with the band in a box thingy? I am trying to make the sound sound a lot clearer because sometimes i get weird distorted sound on Suno AI
Brilliant, Thanks!!!
Great inspiration !!!! Thanks!
Is there a way to use Suno in Cubase? I tried once and it was a mess. I don't even know if Cubase has a way to make stems.
I haven't updated Cubase since version 5 so I don't know if they do stems or not, but there are several other online sources for that, with varying levels of quality.
If you use RVC you can take the vocals you've separated out from the music, and swap them for a "real" singer. The programme will follow the original vocals exactly but with the new voice. You'd want clean up the original as much as possible first, and it does keep things like accents, but if you want to use the same singer in multiple songs then that's one way to do it.
Yeah, somebody else pointed that out, and I'm *definitely* going to try that! Can't believe I didn't think to try that...