Dark Souls 3 Lore - The Story

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  • Dark Souls 3 Lore - The Story
    In this Dark Souls 3 Lore discussion, I'll be going over the story of Dark Souls 3. In order to properly cover the story, I felt it was important to go over a large multitude of topics, including the story of Dark Souls 1.
    00:19 - Part 1: Gwyn and the Fading Flame
    02:38 - Part 2: The Chosen Undead
    03:57 - Part 3: Cycles
    05:48 - Part 4: Dueling Serpents
    09:25 - Part 5: The Lords of Cinder
    13:33 - Part 6: The Resentful Prince
    16:41 - Part 7: A Coming Dark
    22:19 - Part 8: The Last Resort
    25:16 - Part 9: The Chosen Undead
    My Dark Souls Lore series:
    Dark Souls 3 Lore: • Dark Souls 3 Lore
    Dark Souls 2 Lore: • Dark Souls 2 Lore
    Dark Souls Lore: • Dark Souls Lore
    Ballers in the Dark Souls Lore community you should check out:
    EpicNameBro: / epicnamebro
    VaatiVidya: / vaatividya
    Quelaag: / quelaag
    TerraMantis: / terramantis
    Music Used:
    00:00 - Dark Souls 3 - Premonition
    00:22 - King's Field: The Ancient City - The Dark Reality
    01:17 - Dark Souls - Prologue
    01:24 - King's Field: The Ancient City - Palace of Oath Exterior
    01:46 - King's Field - Mountain
    02:41 - Dark Souls - Firelink Shrine
    03:11 - King's Field - Passage for a Monk
    04:00 - Demon's Souls - Old Monk
    04:34 - Dark Souls - Gwyn, Lord of Cinder
    05:38 - Bloodborne - Amygdala
    05:51 - King's Field: The Ancient City - Cliffs and Caves
    07:02 - King's Field: The Ancient City - The Guardian's Room
    07:43 - King's Field: The Ancient City - The Old Battlefield
    09:28 - King's Field: The Ancient City - The Egg Mines
    09:52 - King's Field - Cathedral
    10:33 - Dark Souls - Dark Sun Gwyndolin
    11:20 - King's Field - Colosseum
    11:54 - King's Field: The Miner's Graveyard
    13:35 - Dark Souls 2 - Longing
    14:47 - Dark Souls 2 - Queen of Drangleic
    16:34 - Bloodborne - Terror
    16:56 - Dark Souls - Nameless Song
    19:14 - Demon's Souls - Fool's Idol
    20:26 - Demon's Souls - Maiden Astraea
    22:22 - Dark Souls 2 - King Vendrick
    25:19 - King's Field - West Coast
    26:43 - King's Field - Castle Remains
    27:30 - Dark Souls 3 - Soul of Cinder
    28:58 - Dark Souls - Menu Theme
    Hope you enjoy my Dark Souls 3: Story video!
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  • @theincredibleelephantshrew5476
    @theincredibleelephantshrew5476 8 років тому +1250

    I looked so badass during the Londor ending with my onion knight armor

  • @EaglehawkMoonfang
    @EaglehawkMoonfang 8 років тому +2650

    Dark Souls is actually a metaphor for an camper struggling to keep his campfire lit

  • @scatterbrainart
    @scatterbrainart 3 роки тому +160

    Last night I got back into Dark Souls 3 after not playing it for a while, and my girlfriend asks me, "So what's the story in this game about?" it was like a bad dream about having to take a test that you didn't study for.

    • @reclusiarchgrimaldus1269
      @reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 2 роки тому +2

      Read John 3:16 🙏

    • @lizziessbm
      @lizziessbm 2 роки тому

      @@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 The fuck is wrong with you?

    • @FirstLast-pt7bm
      @FirstLast-pt7bm Рік тому +6

      Lmao whilst playing Bloodborne my grandpa turns to me and asks," so what's the point in all this?"

  • @haoshenme
    @haoshenme 7 років тому +512

    One thing I'd like to point out about Yhorm the Giant. The english description of his shield mentioned something like "lost the one he want to protect", that is a misleading translation. In japanese and chinese version of these words, it just said "he lost people who need his protection". So there's no such a 'dearest one'. He lost his people, those people were corrupted by profaned fire and got punished.
    Nice job presenting the DS III story, it's never an easy task.

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  7 років тому +60

      Interesting - thanks for the heads up! It's always amazing how much the translation can sometimes change these details.

    • @iggytheincubus
      @iggytheincubus 7 років тому +8

      Example: Directly translated, Aldrich's boss title is "god-eater Aldrich", not "Aldrich, devourer of gods", so the people saying that Aldrich ate Priscilla and Nito are... silly

    • @user-kl5wk4kd1k
      @user-kl5wk4kd1k 7 років тому

      ....i thought you r asian.......your voice not accent sounds like asian............╰( ̄▽ ̄)╭╰( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    • @HowserGaming
      @HowserGaming 7 років тому +1

      Could this have a link to dark souls 2 with the giants?

    • @aromardu
      @aromardu 7 років тому +1

      Yhorm is purposefully designed to be similar to the Giant Lord, the conqueror of Drangleic. I'd say there's a chance.

  • @jasonb6860
    @jasonb6860 8 років тому +463

    I've always wondered how Ludleth became a lord. Did he exploit co-op to a ridiculous degree?

    • @DecoyBlackMage
      @DecoyBlackMage 8 років тому +53

      He claims he willed himself lord, a persons state of mind matters a lot in the Dark Souls games from what we have seen during the trilogy. It has a very large effect on hollowing at least so it is possible a strong will is all that is needed to potentially link the fire, it is very possible he was aided naturally since he does use the word " we " when you talk with him in regards to the fire keepers. He might have been one of the original people who created the fire keepers.

    • @edelweiss1157
      @edelweiss1157 8 років тому +74

      He used Skull ring and Havels Greatshield while his friends R1 spammed his foes to death with Dark Swords

    • @dificulttocure
      @dificulttocure 7 років тому +16

      He was a mage, so he didn't actually need legs or hands to defeat the bosses.

    • @motazfawzi2504
      @motazfawzi2504 3 роки тому +6

      Perhaps,
      maybe the guy dragging a corpse wasn't SoC dragging an unkindeled
      but Ludleth's summon wearing Firelink Set dragging him the whole way to the kiln while wearing the Untrue Dark Ring to hide his phantom color. Who knows?

    • @itstk8828
      @itstk8828 Рік тому

      Dude he already lit the fire once THATS WHY hes basocally a skeleton now he was reawoken like the other lords he was just the weakest of the 5

  • @limuney9874
    @limuney9874 7 років тому +754

    Video Starts at 0:00

    • @SlimedogYT
      @SlimedogYT 7 років тому +27

      Limuney hey thanks

    • @limuney9874
      @limuney9874 7 років тому +51

      ***** you don't need to thank me, you already knew that im just trying to get likes.

    • @jcnopal1740
      @jcnopal1740 7 років тому +8

      Limuney your a fucking genius

    • @AliAkkan0217
      @AliAkkan0217 7 років тому

      LOLLLLLLL

    • @JohnM731
      @JohnM731 7 років тому

      Thanks, man! You da real MVP!

  • @MrKurome
    @MrKurome 8 років тому +275

    I really prefer summoning the fire keeper as it feels like the most natural decision after everything the unkindled learns.
    Let the fire fade peacefully and give the firekeepers of the future to chance to purify and relight it if needed.
    Everything else just seems destructive and nihilistic.

    • @808smatt8
      @808smatt8 2 роки тому +3

      Just completed my 1st play though and that’s the choice I made

    • @ComradeOgilvy369
      @ComradeOgilvy369 2 роки тому +1

      Yes

    • @lovekairos
      @lovekairos 2 роки тому +2

      just beat it today and killed the fire keeper and stepped on her head 😆 best ending for me

  • @demilung
    @demilung 8 років тому +205

    Best ending has to be the Firekeeper one.
    When you link the Fire, it's barely strong enough to engulf you. Lord of Hollows sound cool, untill you remember that hollows go crazy and now they're turning into creepy flying trees.
    But Firekeeper saw hope.
    And she's sooooooooooooooooooooooo beautiful.

    • @proOutlander
      @proOutlander 8 років тому +44

      Nah, the best ending is the Lord of Hollows when, here's why. The Fire Keeper ending, is bringing the Age of Dark, knowing, that one day Fire will come, as it came in the time of the First Lords, and the Age of Gray ended. But that just means, that the cycle will come back eventually. And the cycle is bad. Being Lord of Hollows breaks the cycle, takes the First Flame and puts it inside your character, making you a Host for the Fire. Remember, that hollowing actually is the NATURAL state of humans. Just check the intro video of Dark Souls 1 - when the First Flame appears all humans are just that - hollows. This is humanity true nature, and the true victory of the Furtive Pigmee - so the humans can rule, not Gods or Giants, but humans.

    • @demilung
      @demilung 8 років тому +25

      proOutlander
      Even if being mindless husks is a natural state, it's still not a good thing. Dying at the age of 27 from a flu is also natural, but we don't practice it anymore, he made anti-biotics. Hpllow humans don't really rule anything, they just stumble about. And we don't know that what she sees is the new Fire, maybe it's something else, like Deep Sea, or whatever was meant to come if linking would never happened. If her vision of the future was eventual more of the same I don't see why it would be separated into a different ending so hard, that you actually have a way to back down from it.
      And she's soooooo beautiful.

    • @atesgoksu9426
      @atesgoksu9426 8 років тому +14

      +demilung hollows dont have to lose their minds. Yoel, yuria, and the other pilgrim who guides anri are proof of that. Remember how in all of these games, undead are linked to the bonfires and by extension the first flame? Well, my line of thought is that undead lose their minds when they completely lose that connection. Maybe the shattering of that connection has a drastic effect on the mind. But the hollows of londor, somehow, some way, managed to prevent that from happening.

    • @danielantony1882
      @danielantony1882 7 років тому +12

      I love firekeeper.She's the most adorable thing in DS3.

    • @ashdroid0755
      @ashdroid0755 7 років тому

      what happens if there is no hope?? I m a bit confused about that part

  • @TheTaleFoundry
    @TheTaleFoundry 8 років тому +150

    Oh my god, this is amazing. So good to have everything so far condensed into one video. Great job, man. Will definitely be useful in next month's videos. :b

  • @josienakamura4967
    @josienakamura4967 8 років тому +87

    seeing the no hope for the fire keeper ending just broke my heart and made me regret doing it

    • @Daroga1
      @Daroga1 8 років тому +4

      I think the one where you attack the firekeeper and take the flame for yourself.

  • @Jayzgrouse
    @Jayzgrouse 5 років тому +35

    Makes you feel kinda bad for Gundyr, he never had his chance and because of this was stuck testing unkindled to see if they were worthy for the rest of time.

  • @listof3662
    @listof3662 8 років тому +391

    i picked the dark one, because it let me sit with the firekeeper forever

    • @ItzMeItzMe_
      @ItzMeItzMe_ 8 років тому +90

      ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

    • @lazyDudesGaming
      @lazyDudesGaming 7 років тому +78

      That's creepy yet cute

    • @listof3662
      @listof3662 7 років тому +26

      well, i wanted to sit with all the firelink girls forever (cept handmaid). but that ending was the closest i could get.

    • @danielantony1882
      @danielantony1882 7 років тому +22

      I love that girl so much.

    • @GiganFTW
      @GiganFTW 5 років тому +2

      Like the Soul of Cinder but with your wifu?

  • @fiatpanda1256
    @fiatpanda1256 3 роки тому +11

    I'm still confused

  • @radiofrog
    @radiofrog 7 років тому +84

    This lore is confusing as shit

    • @thegodofsoapkekcario1970
      @thegodofsoapkekcario1970 7 років тому +13

      To sum it all up, a kid was too much of a bitch to link the flame.

    • @itztymee402
      @itztymee402 6 років тому

      Yup

    • @swesleyc7
      @swesleyc7 6 років тому

      I completely. Welcome to Japanese video games... They make no sense.

  • @kohakugaming4875
    @kohakugaming4875 8 років тому +161

    I was so hyped for this video
    was not disappointed

  • @HoiPolloiNtertains
    @HoiPolloiNtertains 7 років тому +1

    This video explained so much. The amount of time travel in Dark Souls 3 went over my head but your theories are so clear and make so much sense to me. The explanation of the three Firelink Shrines was superb.

  • @pointybits6496
    @pointybits6496 5 років тому +11

    when I saw the pile of fire keepers before, that was when I realized that I had to stop the flame from being lit.

  • @colnelScar2
    @colnelScar2 8 років тому +8

    My God my mind is overwhelmed with your explanation. Great job on the video.

  • @ravynsahale968
    @ravynsahale968 8 років тому

    This is the best single video I've found about the lore of Dark Souls and the one I now refer people too when they want to know why I'm so passionate about the series. Thank you for putting in the time and effort to make such a resource, you've certainly gained a subscriber for that.

  • @Salabesk
    @Salabesk 8 років тому +1

    This is probably the most interesting and plausible explanation for the time travel element I have heard so far. Fine work!

  • @ZeroReaper42
    @ZeroReaper42 8 років тому +92

    I personally think the Lords of Cinder aren't just a last resort. They're the only resort. Yuria mentions how the gods are no more, possibly referring to the Four Lord Souls that have always been used. Ludleth mentions how the ritual you're taking part in is a re-enactment of the First Flame. A re-enactment is a retelling of events, but it's done in a completely new way.
    In other words, I think the Four Lord Souls are gone. We've used them and burned them so much that we just can't use them anymore, so now we've fallen back on burning Lords of Cinder, and even that isn't enough. You don't erupt into a large flame going out and refreshing the land, You just burn quietly to yourself, the flames not even leaving the Kiln.. Dark Souls III is truly the end of the Souls world.

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +25

      It is interesting that Ludleth talks about being "honored to be the last of the lords" so that does make a lot of sense.

    • @boldikisfaludy6046
      @boldikisfaludy6046 5 років тому +1

      So there were never more than 4 lords then? The four lords would allways just be re-inactments of the first 4?

    • @EbolaBearr
      @EbolaBearr 4 роки тому +1

      So letting the fire go out and having darkness rule is the true ending?

    • @masrr3678
      @masrr3678 4 роки тому +12

      @@EbolaBearr yes, everything is fucked up because of Gwyn's hubris and fear that his wonderful age of fire and light must one day end and the age of dark in which humanity shall strive must begin. Its a cyclical world and had he left it alone the age of dark would also one day end and another age of light would begin anew

    • @BigPeter93
      @BigPeter93 3 роки тому +11

      @@masrr3678 I guess that makes him an old boomer afraid of change

  • @PermianExtinction
    @PermianExtinction 8 років тому +8

    Amazing summary. I hadn't realized that Prince Lothric refusing to link the fire was what more or less set off the events of the game.

  • @bgreenjr7149
    @bgreenjr7149 8 років тому

    Dave, you are the man. I was completely lost. We appreciate all your hard work!

  • @Utamaru56
    @Utamaru56 8 років тому

    So glad I found your channel some time ago. Not much youtubers post actually interesting to watch videos about Dark Souls 3 lore.

  • @bingchilling695
    @bingchilling695 8 років тому +40

    im proud to say i have watched all your lore dark souls related videos
    keep up the good job :DD

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +8

      Thanks so much! I appreciate all of the support. :)

    • @bingchilling695
      @bingchilling695 8 років тому +1

      DaveControl >____

    • @nairndrever2411
      @nairndrever2411 8 років тому

      +DaveControl what do they mean when they say make londor whole ?

    • @averagesoul8256
      @averagesoul8256 8 років тому

      unspeakable memes.i cant have enough of this

  • @stark1st
    @stark1st 7 років тому +15

    Great video mate. Thanks for your hard work.

  • @itsmjeezy2596
    @itsmjeezy2596 2 роки тому

    U did a better job explaining this than most. I used to think the story was convoluted now it makes sense and I love it

  • @F1rsttimer
    @F1rsttimer 8 років тому

    That is the second greatest video I've ever seen on UA-cam. Well done!

  • @grandbean9031
    @grandbean9031 7 років тому +194

    So,the world has gone to shit and Ludleth throws himself in the fire,which is enough for him to restore the old Shrine and toll the Bell,then using the link between the coiled swords you go to the past and kill the Lords of Cinder when they were still alive (I assume in the current state,even they have faded).Then you bring their remains to the future and sacrifice them and decide what to do with them.....
    So Dark Souls 3 is actually a post-apocalyptic time travelling game?

    • @Nicolas-rc9zi
      @Nicolas-rc9zi 7 років тому +12

      Iraklis Pazios yeh

    • @GeonXP89
      @GeonXP89 6 років тому +37

      The Lords you kill in the past are already dead, from what I understood. They rose from their graves when the bell tolled, and were meant to link the fire again, but refused for reasons explained in the video. Then Gundyr was supposed to bring them back but was too late, the fire faded, Ludleth kinda linked the fire himself, and you know the story.

    • @nicolasmouzakis650
      @nicolasmouzakis650 5 років тому +1

      @SnowCoal yeah but gundyr was meant to do the unkindled job but was too late so the fire faded i don't get how it was kindled again so the player unkindled takes gundyr's job can you explain that to me please?

    • @Pahtwo
      @Pahtwo 5 років тому +2

      @@nicolasmouzakis650 ludleth rekindled the fire after gundyr fked up.

  • @_1More_
    @_1More_ 8 років тому +5

    Dude this was amazing!!! best lore I've watched in this series since vaatividya and epicnamebro. keep it up. subscribed.

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +2

      Thank you so much! I'm really glad you enjoyed. :]

  • @gamethingstuff
    @gamethingstuff 7 років тому +1

    this is the best explanation of the dark souls 3 lore ive heard so far, despite still not understanding about a quarter of it, lol. basically - gud job

  • @GeonXP89
    @GeonXP89 6 років тому +2

    Great video !
    I always found it incredible how Dark Soul's lore is hidden, yet incredibly complex. When you start playing the first Dark Souls, you're completely lost and don't know where to go, you see people mentioned in item descriptions but never actually encounter them, so it feels like you're too late and can only ring the two bells and see what happens.
    As for DkS3, I always considered the old Lords of Cinder wouldn't link the fire again because doing so the first time turned them hollow, or something. Thus, they could only go back to where they initially belonged and wait, not able to think or make decisions. After all, when you encounter them, they attack you on sight and never talk, save for Lothric. I never imagined they all had reasons not to link the fire a second time.

  • @darthwoody9917
    @darthwoody9917 8 років тому +22

    My question is what are the dragon's and lizard men doing during all of this, looks like they just sit on the side lines in Archdragon Peak along with the Nameless King(Gwyn's Son).

  • @BobSwaget25
    @BobSwaget25 8 років тому +276

    Make Londor Great Again

    • @1618dude
      @1618dude 8 років тому +13

      Ashen one for Lord of hollows.

    • @amirlhmzn
      @amirlhmzn 7 років тому +2

      make london great again!

    • @frostytwophones9625
      @frostytwophones9625 6 років тому +1

      jacob romersa lmao

    • @Don-ds3dy
      @Don-ds3dy 6 років тому +10

      *DEUS VULT MY MLGA COMRADES!*
      Together we will purge this land of these undead creatures who are taking our jobs and dark phantoms who are murdering people in the streets and rebuild the wall around the Swamp, or drain it, it's a frickin ghetto for gurus.

    • @ryneagheilim9782
      @ryneagheilim9782 6 років тому +5

      Trump's undead legion ... The Republican watchers lmao

  • @carlborneke8641
    @carlborneke8641 Рік тому

    I keep coming back to this video to relive all of my memories of Dark Souls. Such a fantastic game series

  • @shadowboxin420
    @shadowboxin420 8 років тому

    Yet again, great video. Thoroughly enjoyed watching it. Good stuff.

  • @armaanajoomal3338
    @armaanajoomal3338 8 років тому +5

    Praise the Sun Dave, you made suck a detailed lore video you have "My Thanks" Keep up the good work

  • @trainer-mana
    @trainer-mana 8 років тому +6

    I personally hope we get to see Londor in the DLC. It sounds like a really cool nekropolis kind of area with weird gothic architecture if the Morion Blade is anything to go off of.

  • @MrExteraz
    @MrExteraz 8 років тому

    Good job Dave :) Thanks for making this video even with your schedule!

  • @roger07ify
    @roger07ify 8 років тому +1

    Amazing video like always. Thank you for all your hard work! :)

  • @ville576
    @ville576 5 років тому +7

    1:31 wow, those mighty souls :O

  • @JOEMAMA5905
    @JOEMAMA5905 8 років тому +7

    This was fantastic, thank you so much for putting this together. I tried this time to follow the lore but I enjoy the gameplay too much to read everything.

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому

      No problem! I think this one was pretty hard to piece together... personally, at least, haha.

  • @austinsouthwick2678
    @austinsouthwick2678 6 років тому

    Badass video all around mang, very informative and gave me exactly what I was looking for

  • @XdommXerik
    @XdommXerik 8 років тому +1

    Great video, i liked your theorie about Ludleth. It finally explains why we see all these different versions of firelink shrine.

  • @Arrakiz666
    @Arrakiz666 8 років тому +38

    I do think that, in the similar vein that in Bloodborne, the actual "good" ending is the one in which you take in the Fire and become the Lord of Hollows. After all, that is the only ending in which the Cycle is truly broken.

    • @ceetee110
      @ceetee110 3 місяці тому

      Isn't the cycle also broken in either of the firekeeper's endings, whether you take the flame for her or from her? Or did I miss something...

    • @Arrakiz666
      @Arrakiz666 3 місяці тому

      @@ceetee110 Given the beginning of DS I, it's kind of implied that if the dark is allowed to cover the world, the next age of ancients would follow (which is why dragons keep reappearing near the end of every cycle, they're "out of sync", so to speak), and then new Lords would find the souls in the dark, just like the original 4 did. This is why, in DS II, there 4 new Lords, clearly reminiscent of the old ones, but distinct in their own way. If you take the fire, there wouldn't be souls to be found in the dark.

  • @andremiranda8017
    @andremiranda8017 8 років тому +3

    Awesome lore video! Love the series since the first game. I had the same theory about the dark firelink shrine being a past version, but somethig came to me after watching the video that got me confused a bit:
    If you're from a future shrine, and that bonfire is linked to previous versions, you would be, then, travelling to the past to collect the cinders of lords? So Ludleth tolled the bell in our version of the shrine (future) and that awoke the Lords of Cinders in the past? Or is the dark shrine (past version) still connected to the present land but lost in time? Because I've seen (don't remember where, but probably in one of your previous videos) that time is convoluted in the game world.
    My friend had another theory for the dark shrine that I thought was interesting also: He said that Lothric exists in a time that the cycles are exactly the same, so the next time the realm is built, it is built over the previous version as a copy. So the dark shrine is the remain of the last version of Lothric, and the one we explore has been build over it, with the dark shrine, the only remaining structure stanting and slowly been take by the abyss.

  • @rory9578
    @rory9578 8 років тому

    Wow, that was an outstanding video, and story summary. I really enjoyed that.

  • @dactyl1415
    @dactyl1415 8 років тому +1

    Wow Dave, it is amazing how you regularly release high-production content. Clearly you are committed :)

  • @fritzorino
    @fritzorino 8 років тому +82

    I believe, after Lothric refused to link the fire, Oceiros desperatly tried to create another worthy heir. Becouse the bloodline of Lord Gwyn (Lothric's mother being Gwynewere) failed him he searched for a new solution in the Grand Archives untill he eventually discovered the studies of Seath the Scaleless and became obsessed with it. Then he experimented on himself and on his third child Ocelotte. When Queen Lothric discovered this she fled the kimgdom and took Ocelotte with her. This destroyed Oceiros' dream of creating a worthy heir to the linking of the fire and drove him insane. After that he locked himself away in his garden leaving him in the state we find him in game.
    Sorry for any spelling errors

    • @TheDawntide
      @TheDawntide 8 років тому +1

      Then what is the source of the crying infant sounds we hear in the boss fight against Oceiros?

    • @fritzorino
      @fritzorino 8 років тому

      Kev Donaldson I don't know. Maybe an illusion or something? This is just a theory so I could be completly wrong.

    • @NAPH170
      @NAPH170 8 років тому +2

      I'm not so sure Queen Lothric took Ocelotte. During the fight with Oceiros, after he claims to have lost Ocelotte, every so often you can hear a baby crying in the background. It could be something else, but I can't account for it.

    • @DecoyBlackMage
      @DecoyBlackMage 8 років тому

      From what I have heard they originally had a dead baby in his arms, and he would eat it before he goes mad.
      Mind you that this is a rumor and I have nothing to back it up with, the DLC will hopefully give us some closure on that specific story.

    • @User-es3em
      @User-es3em 6 років тому

      DecoyBlackMage Not a rumour ocellote has a design in-game. The just removed it because.... you know baby murder.

  • @x_Skeleton_x
    @x_Skeleton_x 8 років тому +5

    Thanks for including the information of Kaathe and the prophesied Dark Lord from my comments on your last vid. Feels good to help contribute to the lore community. :3

  • @hofniel63
    @hofniel63 8 років тому

    amazing. Thank you for making this Dave!

  • @nelic182
    @nelic182 4 роки тому +1

    Man this is amazing well done

  • @Destroyer2150
    @Destroyer2150 8 років тому +43

    Well done Dave, you manage to post this Lore video, before Vaati.
    *Slow clap*

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +10

      Well... I did with both Dark Souls 2 & Bloodborne... so, there's that. :P

    • @jericho7173
      @jericho7173 8 років тому +6

      Vaati is too busy counting his patreon money to get any lore videos done. Good thing we have Dave.

    • @unixtreme
      @unixtreme 8 років тому

      we love you!

    • @JujuShinobi
      @JujuShinobi 8 років тому

      +FullMetal Bat So... If Vaati's livelihood is based off UA-cam, making money of it is bad?

    • @jericho7173
      @jericho7173 8 років тому +1

      JujuShinobi no that's not bad. But ever since he got his patreon his video production has slowed to a crawl. Not to mention ds3 has been out for a month now and he got the game early and there are no new " prepare to cry " videos. Hell he barely had any bloodborne videos, he didn't even do a lore video about the orphan of kos or lady Maria.

  • @raick8588
    @raick8588 8 років тому +83

    28:06
    WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO YOUR WAIFU

  • @gravelord9555
    @gravelord9555 8 років тому

    Yet another great lore video, thanks Dave.

  • @Jesse_Drake
    @Jesse_Drake 8 років тому

    Amazing video man, you clearly put a lot of work into this and I really enjoyed it.

  • @ATC43
    @ATC43 8 років тому +3

    Dude excellent connection about Ludleth creating his own Firelink! I dont think many people pick up on this.
    - Hub Firelink's sky never changes along with the rest of the game, and it cant be reached or seen from anywhere else in Lothric. Pretty suspicious in my opinion.
    - Ludleth very matter of fact like states that he "painted a new vision" that vision might be just what we wake up to in the beginning of the game.
    - Untended graves is in the past like you said in the video, but can also be a look into the future of what an Age of Dark entails.
    Its my opinion that when we first travel out of Hub Firelink we are leaving a "vision" created by Ludleth that is used to find a worthy unkindled, who is then sent back into the past shortly before the flame fades(Lothric's Turn to link, but before Ludleth does it) and is tasked with collecting the Lord of Cinders ashes to bring back to the Hub Firelink.
    From Hub Firelink we go through the ritual with the Firekeeper and she sends us to the Flameless Shrine. This is the world's reality. Its what happens when the world is on the brink of going hollow. We go back to reality with the Cinders of the Lords within us and challenge the Souls of Cinder so that we can link the flame and paint a new vision, much like Ludleth did before us. However with how dull the flame is when we link it, and how far gone the world is, who knows if what we've done actually has an effect.

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +1

      I like that. Totally agree that we're going back to right before the fame flades - but hadn't thought of it being a different reality from the one of the Flameless/Lord of Cinder shrine. I really like that theory.

  • @rogerfvb
    @rogerfvb 5 років тому +9

    Ludleth's voice actor is a beast.

  • @oOBlindyOo
    @oOBlindyOo 7 років тому

    thanks for putting this together, I've loved the souls games but have never really understood what the real point of them was.
    This really helped and was presented in a very entertaining way. Great job!

  • @geminimanwhocan
    @geminimanwhocan 8 років тому

    This video floored me... INCREDIBLE WORK THANK YOU FOR MAKING... i think i feel a tear welling up... damn vid made me emotional, solid presentation of facts, video, and commentary and the use of game clips and having to go back through ds1... im just... Who know how this changes once DLC is available but for now this such a great recap!

  • @averagesoul8256
    @averagesoul8256 8 років тому +73

    the hollow lord ending is so badass

  • @cissuperdroid
    @cissuperdroid 8 років тому +17

    Pontiff Sulyvahn should be the final boss, as the theories here combined with Vaati's make it seem like our false pope set much of this game into motion.

    • @karion5466
      @karion5466 8 років тому

      +STORM LORD PC takes first place if you go with the no hope ending

    • @Publicenemy213
      @Publicenemy213 8 років тому +2

      Pontiff sort of reminds me of micolash in bloodborne. They both responsible for alot of the shit going on in the game but they end up being random mid bosses and the game doesnt tell you outright that there a big part of the story.

    • @karion5466
      @karion5466 8 років тому

      +MooMoink don't remind me of micolash I won't be able to get the kos line out my head

    • @cissuperdroid
      @cissuperdroid 8 років тому

      STORM LORD No one knows because he doesn't appear to have a face. If he did, it's hella-thin because he has some webbings on his head and some white cloth behind it and some weird stuff. Also, tiny head mod activated.

    • @User-es3em
      @User-es3em 6 років тому

      STORM LORD His statue in Lothric shows him to be of average human size with long black hair. This is the 'abyss' affect because bosses are often shown to grow after messing with the abyss as Pontiff did via the profaned flame.

  • @FindusFisch
    @FindusFisch 8 років тому

    Wow, what an awesome video and thank you so much for the subtitles. I, as non-native speaker, found it sometimes rather difficult to comprehend everything said because it was quite complicated and fast spoken but with the subtitles I could understand everything you said. :)

  • @BeoMalone
    @BeoMalone 8 років тому

    epic video, i can tell you put a ton of thought into this one, it came out great. have to say my favorite part tho (aside from the end) was the going into the past for the untended graves. i totally missed that.

  • @davidstubbs2361
    @davidstubbs2361 8 років тому +5

    Damn good game, I'm more excited for the dlc than some whole games

  • @TomToffy
    @TomToffy 8 років тому +29

    One thing I don't understand is, if Lothric never rekindled the fire, why is he a Lord of Cinder?

    • @offensivepicture4621
      @offensivepicture4621 8 років тому +5

      yeah

    • @armistice9670
      @armistice9670 8 років тому +10

      Because logic isn't a thing anymore for some reason

    • @ATC43
      @ATC43 8 років тому +50

      I dont think he kindled it. Its more that he is destined to do it. I suppose they didnt find it necessary to give him a different title than all the others because his ultimate fate will always be the same.

    • @TyrannyOfObcenity9
      @TyrannyOfObcenity9 8 років тому +27

      He didn't. He's destined to. You bring his ashes to the fire link shrine where he then becomes a Lord of Cinder

    • @ToXiC9GaMeR
      @ToXiC9GaMeR 8 років тому

      His brother took the mantle of lordship, Lorian became the lord of cinder instead

  • @choppedsuey2113
    @choppedsuey2113 7 років тому

    You shed light onto all the links i'd missed. Thank you C:

  • @k0m0d0tr0n
    @k0m0d0tr0n 2 роки тому

    Great use of selected tracks from King's Field

  • @garfinator1
    @garfinator1 7 років тому +3

    who else thought that in the beginning when he's explaining the backstory of how the humans beat the dragons (around 1:06) was a little jarring and pretty fast and hard to follow for people who doesn't know about the world, i'm a dark souls vet and i still need to pause the video and rewind a bit just to hear what he's saying, and i know the story of the first 2 games (well the lore but you understand if you watch a lot of DS lore videos)

  • @jakobskredelangedal6059
    @jakobskredelangedal6059 8 років тому +48

    There is still one thing i dont understand. How can the Lords Of Cinder in DS3 leave the kiln, and not get shoved into the soul of cinder like Gwyn and the Chosen Undead from DS1 did?

    • @armistice9670
      @armistice9670 8 років тому +5

      You have a good point

    • @jakobskredelangedal6059
      @jakobskredelangedal6059 8 років тому +28

      And how can there be a soul of cinder when the souls of the lords of cinders that linked the flame, was burned up as fuel for the first flame? Im so fucking confused.

    • @TheDawntide
      @TheDawntide 8 років тому +28

      And why were those Lords in particular chosen to come back to help the Unkindled link the fire?

    • @TheDirtbaggrif
      @TheDirtbaggrif 8 років тому +14

      Shut up don't think about it. No really, that's the answer.

    • @valeszhound5336
      @valeszhound5336 8 років тому +18

      yeah i wanna know that too. were they the most recent lords of cinder? maybe the fusing into the soul of cinder is a time consuming process. and where was the soul of cinder in the second game? did vendrick kill it before going hollow? (i mean i know they probably haven't come up with it back then and that might be the reason but i'm still curious)

  • @Azumarule
    @Azumarule 8 років тому

    Fantastic as always Dave

  • @sephirothmustdie
    @sephirothmustdie 7 років тому +1

    This was awesome! good job!

  • @gravendanger
    @gravendanger 8 років тому +5

    Just an idea but somewhere it said pontiff sulvyhann saw something in the profaned Capitol. What about if he saw dark stalker kaathe who convinced him to prevent the linking of the flame so he protects Aldrich from being used as kindling

    • @dawn1279
      @dawn1279 8 років тому +3

      But that would speak against the fact that Kaathe pursues the Londor ending(inhariting the flame). By just letting the flame fade, you wont break the cycle because we know that even in an age of dark, one day little flames will ignite again, giving opportunity for another age of light in the future. Kaathe maybe realised that extinguishing the fire is no permanent solution and sought another way.
      Yurias task is to push us towards the end so why put a spoke in wheel?

  • @Hunubul1
    @Hunubul1 8 років тому +4

    Angles being pilgrims? Not a bad assumption.
    And also that Ludleth may have sacrificed himself without the other lords. Ludleth is weak, maybe because he sacrificed some of himself to extend the cicle a little bit more. He was sitting on the throne, maybe continously feeding the flame, which is most likely painful.
    I would like to add my theory. All Lords (all 5) represents the 5 Souls you collect in DS1. And I'll theorize how your interpretation and mine could collide.
    And I believe you were wrong about the 4 kings, they aren't just Gwyns soul fragment, but they became infested by the abyss, they became the hoarder of the Dark Soul. So they are the manifestation of Manus.
    So as you said, all 4 Gods, Nito, the witches, Manus and Gwyn, had to be sacrificed. They represent Light, Dark, Life and Death. But there is a 5th god, Seath, who I believe, even if he had only the fragment of Gwyns soul, had his own Lord soul (or developed one), so there is the 5 Lords. We can call Seath "knowledge" or "magic".
    So my theory:
    Aldritch is Death
    Yhorm is Life
    Abysswatchers is Dark (them also being infested by the dark.. you also said this, so there is no problem here)
    Twin Princes are Light
    And that leaves with Ludleth being Magic or Knowledge
    I also believe that Ludleth became a Lord of Cinder on his own, and cut off his own leg so he wouldn't flee from his duties.
    So the theory that can connect yours and mine:
    When these Lords of Cinders are revived, they had to have a Lord Soul of their own to be strong enough to be called upon again. So there is always 1 new heir, and 4 older ones. Thus the 5 thrones. So these Lord Souls are stored in these Lords of Cinders. DS1 said it: with fire became disparity, and disparity didn't just vanish, it's still there, so the Lords HAVE to represent life, death, light and dark. Without all 5 Lords it would be like when Gwyn sacrificed himself: not enough.
    Souls don't just grow on trees, so they have to be the same ones than they were in DS1, or a version of them.

  • @EpicShadow26
    @EpicShadow26 8 років тому

    You've covered everything possible. Fantastic job.

  • @mikecosh2925
    @mikecosh2925 4 роки тому

    Thanks for this! Finally cleared a lot of that up.

  • @miskonductkx911
    @miskonductkx911 7 років тому +6

    and here i am still trying to defeat the twin princes :(

    • @drofaluap6521
      @drofaluap6521 4 роки тому

      3 years later im still having trouble with the crystal sage

  • @darknessdemons6929
    @darknessdemons6929 8 років тому +66

    my problem is I can only put One like , instead of a million.
    thank you.

    • @capcom23
      @capcom23 5 років тому +2

      or just write a million thank you messages here. Go ahead.... 1.000.000 messages thank you expected now from you. LMAO just kidding

  • @joymelton2777
    @joymelton2777 8 років тому

    Thanks for your hard work hope to see more.

  • @roshanwadasinghe7294
    @roshanwadasinghe7294 3 роки тому

    U did it for me ty man a lot
    And bless ur channel subbed

  • @EOCmodernRS
    @EOCmodernRS 7 років тому +5

    how can the 4 lords of cinder leave the final bonfire place, when gwyn and the final boss could/do not?

  • @vanquevevo28
    @vanquevevo28 5 років тому +22

    14:11 amazing chest ahead

    • @spudthepug
      @spudthepug 4 роки тому

      vanque VEVO Booooobies!

    • @banuner_
      @banuner_ 2 роки тому

      Try two handing

  • @labs101021
    @labs101021 8 років тому

    Such a well done video. Kudos Dave.

  • @LM-pg9hy
    @LM-pg9hy 8 років тому

    great lore video, they are always the best

  • @azh121389
    @azh121389 8 років тому +6

    +DaveControl I guess it's something that I never considered before now, but are you speculating that none of Lords of Cinder actually linked the flame (save for Ludleth)?

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +18

      No - I'm saying all of the Lords linked the flame except Lothric.
      I'm saying Ludleth linked the flame a second time by himself.

    • @azh121389
      @azh121389 8 років тому

      Ah, I see now. Thanks for clarifying!

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +1

      Because he was prepped to be a Lords of Cinder.

    • @MrEuller88
      @MrEuller88 8 років тому

      +dmNsGamingChannel but don't forgot that Lorian killed the Demon Prince, and forever imbuing the chaos in his sword

    • @Shad0wmoses
      @Shad0wmoses 8 років тому +10

      basically ludleth went into ng+ and beat it a second time unlike the others. lothric himself was a casual, reports say, and could not beat the final boss.

  • @cloudbloom
    @cloudbloom 8 років тому +6

    how do you get that dialogue from ludleth saying "it burns, help me"

    • @Adalore
      @Adalore 8 років тому +6

      if I am not mistaken...You gotta kill him and have him respawn.

    • @LupoDusky
      @LupoDusky 8 років тому

      ^

    • @Adalore
      @Adalore 8 років тому

      Oop, sometime in the future I'll refresh my page before I look at the comments instead of after the entire video length making the comments "old".

    • @LupoDusky
      @LupoDusky 8 років тому

      Adalore
      I 'accidentally' shot him with my bow and he came back but he was normal

  • @tjvg1164
    @tjvg1164 7 років тому

    Really awesome video!

  • @yorio78
    @yorio78 8 років тому

    Thanks for the video, it's really cool!

  • @imdartson3679
    @imdartson3679 8 років тому +3

    I still dont understand who our character is. I understand our task, but who we are and how we got the responsibility of rounding up the lords of cinder alludes me. Where did we come from? Who gave us this task? We wake up and are told what to do. Where's the backstory on the unkindled champions of ash? What we have feels more or less like a bounty hunter with no depth. Unless I keep missing some key piece of info..

    • @joeschmo3622
      @joeschmo3622 8 років тому +1

      Essentially, due to a prolonged period of insufficient tinder to satiate the First Flame, the Undead of Dark Souls III experience a more rudimentary form of Undeath that we know as Unkindled. While branded with the Darksign, these Undead are not afflicted with Hollowing and therefore they cannot fitfully Link the Fire, thus they serve as a reflection of the dire state of the dying world.
      Moving right along, the prior life of the player character is unknown, maybe lost, and thus this person adheres to the sole instinctual motivation bestowed unto them, which is contending with the desperate state of the First Flame, such is the fate of all Undead as their very existence is on the brink of desolation in the wake of Dark.

    • @WrenchMonkey91
      @WrenchMonkey91 8 років тому

      basically the bell of awakening woke up the lords of cinder to link it again, they chose not to, so then we were woken as a last resort. the champion of ash thing seems to be an ironic joke, because in this universe powerful god-like carriers of lord souls are able to link the flame everything lesser is destroyed by it, becoming ash. so because the great powerful lords won't link the flame, the job falls to us petty lowlings.
      as to what's the difference between unkindled and undead? thats up for debate. at the end of DS2's DLC when you gather the crowns together you transcend the undead curse of hollowing, and basically exist outside the cycle of flames and souls and blah blah blah, which would seem heretical or "accursed" to these people who worship the flame and see great pride in linking it. so maybe our character is linked to your character after having rid yourself of the hollowing curse and died a normal death and wasn't subject to the undead curse raising others from the grave but are now being called on to intervene somehow.

    • @srkaz8114
      @srkaz8114 8 років тому +7

      The Cemetery of Ash, where the main character derives from, is known as the place that all failed Lords of Cinder go to rest. The result of being a Lord of Cinder is the consumption of your body and soul, thus creating fuel for the flame. The fact of the matter is, when a vessel is unfit for being an energy source, they are burned to ash. All bonfires are essentially the remains of unfit champions and sacrifices from the Way of White. Your Estus is bottled power of the Lords, and your Ashen Estus is bottled ashen power of the once-unfit-to-be-lords. That is why throughout your playthrough, you are referred to as the "Ashen One", or "The one that is named to "Usurp the Flame", not to officially take it.

  • @ExileTwilight
    @ExileTwilight 8 років тому +8

    I wonder if my games bugged... Cause I've talked to the Fire keeper and Ludleth countless times after every boss and area and never gotten those dialogues...

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +10

      You have to kill Ludleth to get the dialogue from him. (He comes back to life, and gives you that dialogue then).
      The Firekeeper dialogue is conditional based on which ending you're going for, and given to you near the very end of the game.

    • @ExileTwilight
      @ExileTwilight 8 років тому +2

      DaveControl Oh I see... I was too afraid to kill my boss weapon vendor to try that xD Interesting that he also comes back...
      I did the "dark" ending, but maybe I missed it...

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому

      For the bit of dialogue I used from her, it's only if you'er going for the light ending, so that's probably why, haha.

    • @ExileTwilight
      @ExileTwilight 8 років тому

      DaveControl Oh. Sounded like something that would relate to the dark ending xD
      Thanks :)

    • @kieranogara5479
      @kieranogara5479 8 років тому

      +DaveControl You're :)

  • @JedBullet
    @JedBullet 8 років тому

    great video man. I learned a lot. and clearer than vatti. I watched you ages but never commented yet. just wanted to say i love your content and personality which comes out in your vids. (sits down, toasts Dave)

  • @TheMrMartea
    @TheMrMartea 7 років тому

    Great work! much appreciated.

  • @nickycocaine
    @nickycocaine 8 років тому +9

    Wait, Yhorm has a face? What is this? I thought the giants didn't have faces.

    • @OmbraEterea
      @OmbraEterea 8 років тому +1

      Miyazaki-san erased most of DaS 2 here...

    • @nickycocaine
      @nickycocaine 8 років тому +9

      IlKönz The giants in Anor Londo don't have faces. They have the butt faces from Dark Souls 2. Even in Dark Souls 1, the giants have the butt faces underneath their masks.

    • @OmbraEterea
      @OmbraEterea 8 років тому +2

      Buckets
      Anor Londo's giants are masked, that's all. They don't have stone-like skin as DaS 2 giants. And they speak common language (at least the weaponsmith)
      In the catacombs of DaS 1, giant skeletons clearly have a skull like any other human, only bigger.
      Giants in DaS 2 and giants in DaS 1 have nothing in common, apart their big size.

    • @bobisdoinsomething895
      @bobisdoinsomething895 8 років тому

      +Buckets I think the but face was only in Dark Souls 2 seeing as one of the wisest and friendliest as character in the souls franchise is a giant

    • @takezokimura2571
      @takezokimura2571 8 років тому

      The giant archer in DS3 has a face. You can see it from behind his mask(if you see from the side).
      It is like a derp face with a tiny mouth, he has eyes too.

  • @ThePedram009
    @ThePedram009 8 років тому +4

    Spitting more videos lore videos out than Vaati i see

    • @JuggerTheNut
      @JuggerTheNut 8 років тому

      Well, Dave is the true lore king.

    • @RuSosan
      @RuSosan 8 років тому

      Not saying much since Vaati hasn't done any lore videos on this yet, so even if Dave had 1 video about this, your statement would still be true.
      :D
      **Ahem**
      I also don't mean to nit-pick, but you typed "videos" twice there, before and after the word lore.

  • @blackedraaw8516
    @blackedraaw8516 8 років тому

    I've been subscribed since 1000 subscribers, your videos are just getting better and better man, keep up the good work! P.S I watched and liked all of your lore videos for every Dark Souls game!

  • @MilkBeard555
    @MilkBeard555 8 років тому

    I really enjoyed this video.

  • @nono9543
    @nono9543 8 років тому +4

    So where does Dark Souls 2 fit into all of this?

    • @themacca277
      @themacca277 8 років тому +5

      aldia may have been one of the scholars who convinced lothric to leave the flame. As for the crowns nothing yet

    • @zigmus00A
      @zigmus00A 8 років тому +5

      Because the events of DS2 are what starts the "Rebellion" against the cycle.
      The goal of finding former Lords and obtaining their souls in DS3 mirrors what happens in DS2 and the DLC.
      Except an Unkindled is chosen as a back-up-plan in case the current *Chosen* decides against linking the fire like with what happens in DS2 True Ending.
      And of course Aldia being the culmination of the Soul Research that started with Seath the Scaleless, having lost his very soul but all the while escaping the cycle that Humanity is stuck in.

  • @Adalore
    @Adalore 8 років тому +6

    the crap, a ending where you face stomp the firekeeper?!
    alright then, glad I didn't accidentally into that ending or I would have not been pleased. :P

    • @DaveControlLive
      @DaveControlLive  8 років тому +4

      It's pretty hard to realize you can get. During the Age of Dark ending, you have to realize you can still control your character and actively choose to attack her.

    • @Adalore
      @Adalore 8 років тому

      Glad I didn't drop the controller and make it a sad day.

  • @SoulGameStudio
    @SoulGameStudio 8 років тому

    That is god damn solid lore interpretations right there. Sounds good to me!

  • @Shovelfighter22
    @Shovelfighter22 8 років тому

    Very good video. Nice work