Don't Sleep on the Ludwig Rocker Bronze 5X14 LM305 Snare Drum

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  • Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
  • After posting the #snaresaturday video on the Ludwig rocker steel snare, many viewers requested a video on the Ludwig rocker bronze snare. After searching for quite some time I found one in excellent condition at one of my local drum shops - Junk Rock Drums. In this #snaresaturday video I'll show you the Ludwig Rocker Bronze 5X14 LM305 snare drum, and why this drum has a sound that's more than a "cheap/affordable" drum.
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    Time Stamps
    00:00 - Intro
    01:28 - Rocker Bronze Backstory
    02:02 - Rocker Bronze Specs
    03:01 - Low Tuning
    03:59 - Medium-Low Tuning
    04:57 - Medium Tuning
    05:53 - Medium-High Tuning
    07:03 - High Tuning
    08:16 - Cranked Tuning
    09:26 - Rocker Bronze Sound Characteristics
    09:52 - Closing Remarks
    Don't Sleep on the Ludwig Rocker Bronze 5X14 LM305 Snare Drum
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 73

  • @MarkMonolithOfficial
    @MarkMonolithOfficial 20 днів тому +14

    You really can't go wrong with ANY Ludwig snare drum. Ludwig has perfected the art of making snare drums.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому +1

      Could not agree more!

    • @jimo3173
      @jimo3173 18 днів тому +2

      I agree. I used to use a Ludwig Acrolite black galaxy, and it was a very nice sounding snare.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      Pretty wild how versatile that black galaxy acro is, too!

    • @szi5443
      @szi5443 14 днів тому

      @@MarkMonolithOfficial Plastic straps on the wires, no perfect

  • @that-avr-drummer
    @that-avr-drummer 17 днів тому +1

    I used to have the 5x14 one back in the 90s and I miss it!! Great drum.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      Totally agree. I was surprised by the sound while making this vid

  • @Spagz
    @Spagz 20 днів тому +5

    It sounds great in all ranges! Cranked surprised me.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому +1

      Right?!? Just adjust the tuning, and go!

  • @djo9941
    @djo9941 17 днів тому +1

    I have 2 70s Ludwig Rocker kits and 1 Rocker kit from Taiwan. All really good drums.

  • @gnosticnomad8389
    @gnosticnomad8389 18 днів тому +1

    Bronze is my favorite snare tone. My main snare is a legends bronze. I paid $75 for it and it is my top pick even over my high end sonor snares.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому +1

      So cool! Pretty great when a go to snare just so happens to be super affordable too

  • @nickwilkinsmusic
    @nickwilkinsmusic 20 днів тому +1

    man oh man that low tuning sounded amazing. really had a nice crack in the higher tunings too. what a lovely drum to boot!

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому

      Super versatile for sure - didn't need any modifications, either!

  • @swingdrums
    @swingdrums 18 днів тому +1

    I had one. It is 5.5x14, not 5x14. It's made overseas and from what I understand it's the same shell as the Pearl Senitone but with Ludwig hardware. With nice heads and snare wires, they sound good but compared to the Ludwig Superphonic bronze, it's not as full bodied and rich sounding, but that doesn't mean it's not a good sounding drum. If I still had both, this is a drum I could take on a gig and not worry so much about as my more expensive snares, but still do a good job. Only "drum nerds" could probably tell a big difference between this and the pro line superphonic. My bass player definitely could not...

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      That's great info, thank you for sharing - I had no idea about them being the same shell as the Sensitone! As long as it sounds good, that's all that matters to the general audience

  • @alsdrumhang
    @alsdrumhang 20 днів тому +2

    Definitely a sleeper! What a fat low tuned sound... and still plenty of meat in the higher tunings. Worth looking for!

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому +1

      AND they're not too crazy expensive...yet

  • @szi5443
    @szi5443 17 днів тому +1

    This was my main snare for a while, what a sleeper and could use it for anything. Throw off is a pos though

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      Total sleeper, though prices are climbing so they might not be anymore. Love how Ludwig designed the new p88ac throw off to fit the hole spacing - now you can have a solid throw!

    • @szi5443
      @szi5443 14 днів тому

      @@NickCostaMusic I did put a p88 on it. Much better, stiff knob though. INDe throw offs won’t fit surprisingly, but the INDe fits on my Acro, go figure

  • @jkozol
    @jkozol 20 днів тому +3

    Spectacular drum. I have one also but I made a few “modifications”. I put on Ludwig die cast rims, put gaskets under the lugs and put on the P88 AC throwoff. It’s sounds spectacular. Dries up the drum just enough.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому

      I bet that thing is like a cannon now! What did you use for the gaskets?

    • @jkozol
      @jkozol 18 днів тому +2

      I was able to get Ludwig gaskets through Drum Center of Portsmouth.

    • @jkozol
      @jkozol 18 днів тому +2

      And it sounds like a Tama Bell Brass

    • @johnsandbo1
      @johnsandbo1 18 днів тому

      Any idea of the price of this drum?

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому +1

      This rocker bronze you can find $300 - $375 online any day. Just need to keep an eye out to make sure it's in good shape

  • @stanfordkoch1271
    @stanfordkoch1271 20 днів тому +1

    Cool snars

  • @timm1139
    @timm1139 20 днів тому

    That first tuning is all I needed, wow... & great sounding @ the higher tunings also. That's a great drum.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому +1

      Glad you liked it! I really like the sound of the medium-high, high tuning (but I also prefer higher tuned snares)

  • @brianchisnell1548
    @brianchisnell1548 18 днів тому +1

    Love my Ludwig's, but, my '75 Slingy brass shell, 6.5 Gene Krupa is untouchable!

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      That's a great snare!

    • @brianchisnell1548
      @brianchisnell1548 12 днів тому

      @@NickCostaMusic I know. I used it for years with my Yamaha kit. Fantastic crack!!

  • @kmh993
    @kmh993 20 днів тому +3

    Great video! How does this compare with the aluminum Acrolite? Similar shape and hardware, only the shell material differs. Curious to know how it compares

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому

      Appreciate that, thank you! I'm not sure how it compares, though I think that needs to be an upcoming video now...

  • @garyzapel4022
    @garyzapel4022 20 днів тому +3

    Nice sounding snare. I have the bronze Ludwig phonic, i wonder what the difference is?

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому

      I think so too! Bronze phonic is a seamless shell, this isnt. The shells might be different thicknesses as well. Besides that, different lugs (bronze phonic has imperial, this has bowtie lugs), bronze phonic doesn't have an internal dampener, etc.

  • @jimo3173
    @jimo3173 20 днів тому +1

    This is a nice sounding snare. The rim hits sound a little thin, but the rest sounds good. I have a 14x4 phosphor bronze seamless 3 mil snare and it's the best one I've ever had. I am a fan of bronze snares.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому

      Totally! Maybe putting a heavier hoop like a die cast can help get a better rim hit?

    • @jimo3173
      @jimo3173 18 днів тому +1

      @@NickCostaMusic That's entirely possible. My snare has die cast hoops and the rim knocks sound sweet. You might also tighten the wires just a little which will also help and may in fact help more than the die cast hoops.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      Not a bad idea to try both - thanks for that! Now to see which wires will work best with the drum?

    • @jimo3173
      @jimo3173 14 днів тому

      @@NickCostaMusic Ah yes, the old trial and error deal with the wires lol. For good rim knocks though I would stick to 20 strand wires and not those ones that make the underside of your snare look like a BBQ grill lol.

  • @stanfordkoch1271
    @stanfordkoch1271 20 днів тому +1

    I got the steel version at a triftshop for about 5 dollars here in the netherlands

  • @wadedixon9890
    @wadedixon9890 20 днів тому +3

    Bronze vs Copper

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому +1

      And look at that, I have both! That's a great recommendation, thanks @wadedixon9890

  • @nathanowens3
    @nathanowens3 20 днів тому

    I wonder what years they were produced, sounds awesome

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому +1

      From what I read, they're from the 90s. www.drumforum.org/threads/information-on-a-ludwig-80s-brass-snare.58046/

  • @JCordoba1001
    @JCordoba1001 20 днів тому

    People always talk about Black beauty and Supraphonic when the COPPERPHONIC smokes them both!

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому

      The copperphonic is a pretty fantastic drum, totally agree ! ua-cam.com/video/PujoV01yUwU/v-deo.html

  • @curtislangford6248
    @curtislangford6248 20 днів тому +1

    Bronze with 10 lugs gives the snare a warm sound. I wonder trying different heads would brighten up the tone?

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому +1

      It might, though I would think they would have to be thinner to let the drum breathe a bit?

    • @catmanisgod8200
      @catmanisgod8200 17 днів тому +2

      The Drum needs a Ludwig X-Thin Resonant snare side head.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      Not a bad idea, @catmanisgod8200 ! What do you think it will do to the overall sound?

    • @curtislangford6248
      @curtislangford6248 14 днів тому

      @@NickCostaMusic The sound of a drum top and bottom heads should be easy to control volume, dynamics, and easy to tune. There are so many varieties of heads today but the important part of choosing the type of drum heads to fit your style is up to you. It’s easy to make your drums sound like a marching snare if you don’t care.

  • @Dan-hc1ow
    @Dan-hc1ow 18 днів тому

    Not bad for seamless.

    • @catmanisgod8200
      @catmanisgod8200 17 днів тому

      It is not seamless. Dude says so in the video, and says that it is seamed.

    • @Dan-hc1ow
      @Dan-hc1ow 17 днів тому

      @@catmanisgod8200 you're right, of course. Don't know what was going through my mind. It was very late. My mind was thinking seam but my fingers typed seamless.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      Seamless do sound great, but that doesn't mean one with a seam is worse. Q Drums made fantastic metal drums, all with riveted seams

  • @JackNiles
    @JackNiles 20 днів тому

    Wondering the sound difference between a 80’s Tama bell Brass and a Tama swingstar Steel.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому +1

      Me too - would love to get my hands on an 80s Tama bell brass, though it's way out of my budget...

    • @JackNiles
      @JackNiles 18 днів тому

      @@NickCostaMusic Maybe Tama will send you one to do a Demo video

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      @JackNiles as a Ludwig educational artist, it might be a conflict of interest for both parties

  • @bobgourley8179
    @bobgourley8179 20 днів тому

    Ilikeit ,is itaveryezspensive dbarewhat do they generally cosy

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  18 днів тому

      You can find them between $300 - $400 USD

  • @htkfred
    @htkfred 18 днів тому

    You didn’t measure it?

  • @catmanisgod8200
    @catmanisgod8200 17 днів тому

    I am not overly impressed. It is nothing I would play... or collect.

    • @NickCostaMusic
      @NickCostaMusic  14 днів тому

      Ain't nothing wrong with that. What didn't you like about it, and what's your preferred snare?