Lava Farm Super Smelter Tutorial for Java 1.20 (and 1.17+)
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2022
- 🎬 ABOUT THE VIDEO
This is a block by block tutorial for my custom designed lava powered super smelter, giving you infinite fuel. I use a standard piston feed tape lava farm, bucket refill system, refill watervater, minecart loaders for distribution and a fairly small footprint for the overall farm. Includes fixes for Shulkercraft's broken lava farm.
This farm is now available as a schematic to free members of my Patreon: / radicalelder
This works in 1.17, 1.18, 1.19 and now 1.20 and I use it myself in multiple worlds.
Materials List:
5 stacks of a solid block of your choice
176 hoppers
104 powered rails
55 glass (or solid block)
50 furnaces
44 pointed dripstone
44 lava bucket
41 cauldrons
23 slab of your choice (about half are optional)
15 redstone dust
12 chests
12 stair of your choice (kind of optional)
6 rail
6 lever
5 redstone comparator
4 redstone blocks
4 observers
4 pistons
4 repeaters
3 droppers
2 hopper minecarts
1 bucket of water + 6 kelp OR 7 buckets of water OR 7 ice
1 redstone torch
1 soul sand
How it works:
The player operates the lava farm as usual until the furnaces and hopper chain is full of lava buckets. After that, drop smeltable items in the double chest at the top of the farm. While it smelts, keep getting lava to replenish what it uses. The buckets will be automatically taken from your inventory, a new bucket will be given, the bucket will travel to the minecart loader and get dropped in the next furnace that needs one. The smelted items are returned to the front of the farm.
If you want to start the farm faster, you can fill each hopper with 4 non-fuel items and you'll require far fewer lava buckets to get started.
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Known Issues
- Hoppers aren't really fast enough to make this work for a long period of time as intended. Items do back up.
- Starting the farm up is easier with 4 junk items in the hopper that can't be smelted so you only need a couple buckets per furnace at first.
- Lava cauldrons take 19 minutes on avg to fill up, there aren't enough cauldrons to constantly smelt using this.
I am working on fixes and a v2 but honestly, building an actual endgame friendly lava super smelter runs into MULTIPLE challenges and may not be viable at all. This does work and I use it in both of my hardcore worlds (Twitch & YT) but the issues do exist.
Obviously use composters then, silly! 😜
I actually see quite a few modifications that would solve most of these issues.
From the top, the bucket collector can be simplified to feed the bucket back into dropper system. (the redstone block will bud power, and will break bedrock compatibility)
Instead of a spinning cauldron design, a zigzag would work better. you could completely remove and fill a 10x10 area of cauldrons.
Item storage is kind of messy but this is meant to be simple, so it works.
This is a functional design, so I can't really be too critical on it.
it works, it's easy to build for the average player, and it's not meant to be complex. For that, the issues presented are worth the functional design you've presented.
What if you used a large kelp farm to feed the farm instead of lava? Added bonus if you keep the chunk loaded it will give you lots of extra fuel
@@victorkirkwood1256 Kelp (and bamboo) are much, much laggier, especially when they get harvested. If you're chunkloading, it's very possible for you to be doing something "critical" to living and boom, lag spike just because, and you're dead.
The "best" fuel is probably duped carpets. After that it's probably a tree farm turned into charcoal. Then lava, then bamboo & kelp, then actual coal. And I don't consider blaze rods actual fuel unless you are playing in a modded world with things like silk touch blaze spawners. You just can't get a really serious supply.
I finished building the whole farm and almost forgot to subscribe and comment! This is absolutely amazing and I can't find a better farm. Thank you for the help :D.
cubixmeter super smelter
A fuel source for a furnace array is always what gets me, but this is so simple! I think Im definitely going to give this design a try!
Awesome kg! I hope it works out well for you. I use it in both of my 1000 day hc worlds (Twitch & YT) and it's served me very well so far.
Fantastic tutorial man.
My only minor suggestion is that you use a different block for your temporary blocks, than the main building block you’re using.
That way it’s clear which blocks to remove as we’re following along and our attention is divided.
I’ve been using Iskall’s multi-furnace array with a carpet duper instead of zero-tick bamboo farms, and I think I’m gonna try this one now instead.
Thanks for the inspiration.
That's a good idea with the temp blocks. Maybe don't watch the shulker loader video (I used a hopper as a temp block lolololol)
This works on bedrock as well, just replace the solid block next to the piston with redstone dust and put the lever on the piston itself
I hadn't tested the other mechanics so I didn't list it for both yet but yeah, we made the lava farm work for both. I'll list it for both once I do a full test. Thanks!
BRO came exactly for this, awesome tips.
Are you in creative or survival mode? Also, which version?
I tried this and it works the same for me either way (in creative mode, I haven't tried it in survival yet), because I put redstone dust all the way around the whole thing to connect all 4 corners. Thing is, I can't seem to get the hopper to drop the 16 buckets and dirt, then keep 6 buckets. Nothing happens there. How did you get that part to work?
Edit: Nevermind. I had a comparator where I should have had a repeater. Fixed that and the hopper works just fine! Moving forward with the tutorial! Oh, also, Shulkercraft's way of doing the 4 corners works well in Bedrock, as does the way shown here. The way Shulkercraft shows it, you can have 4 ticks, the above way is crazy fast, so it depends on what speed you want, I guess. Anyway, the levers instead of the button works just fine in Bedrock. Haven't tried it with a button - don't see the need to at this point.
@@justrosy5 it should fire the comparator when you put something into the hopper behind it. then the dust, then the dropper
absolutely brilliant design, i was looking into making my own furnace array coupled with a lava farm and decided to look it up, and voila, a vision even better than mine on yt! will be building this in my hardcore world. thank you!
I'm glad you like it and hope it works out well for you. My complications with it are listed in the pinned but other than that, it's a nice mid-game smelter. :)
Great video. I appreciate how well you describe the build and also how you walk us through mistakes instead of ignoring them as some UA-camrs will do.
I built this with some modifications because I did not leave enough space next to some of my other builds. One opportunity for improving your vids: give a layout of how much space this build will take before you begin and define where the features will be once built. Such as where the storage system will go. This helps builders plan out their space so they fit it around other builds.
Thanks for the advice and sorry about that. I've learned quite a bit since and am actually working on another tutorial for a tunnel bore now and I did remember to mention (and show) how big t he area needed to be to clear out for it. haha He can be taught!! Enjoy the lava smelter, too!
okay legit, I was just sitting here - and the idea of a "auto filling lava bucket furnace" popped into my head.I thought it was original, but knew there's no way no one else has thought of this. I said aloud "surely someone has done this on youtube..." and searched.
your video came up, and I'm so glad it's for 1.19 too.
I'm very pleased to see you went way broader with the idea! I'll give this a shot, thank you!
the internet is truly an amazing place
Haha I saw a few people had done "the other" (stacked dropper) versions of this and I was like cool but what if I just custom do a bit of a furnace array and feed into it and ... yeah! I use it for my hc world and it's honestly completely cracked. I love this for a mid to early late game smelter. Is it 300 furnace super mega array? nah ... but it's pretty mad.
@@RadicalElder hats off to you man for pulling this off! And cheers for the response!
I’ve been so impressed by Cubicmetre’s work too, and I reckon this can fit into the rest of the auto system. I’ve always had the dream of the ultimate farm conglomerate that’s as dense as possible, and your work here helps me get closer to that goal 10-year-younger me dreamt of.
Keep it up!
Built this once before, and about to build it again. Such a great design, really worth the hassle for all those lava buckets
Glad to hear it worked out previously. It's a mixed bag - a bit hard to use lava in general but a solid design to do so imo. It's one of those "well it's maybe the best way to do this thing I wanna do" lol I have ideas for future iterations but we'll see ...
Great design! I will be using this for my Skyblock world!!!
Thanks, yeah skyblock is so frustrating with lava but once you get dripstone you get RENEWABLE lava which is just amazing!
Works a treat thanks very much this is just what i needed
You're welcome!
Literally came cause I couldn't get mine to work. Your lever trick worked great! Thanks man!
Glad it helped! :)
Great smelter. Easy to make and use. Thanks so much!!!
Of course! Glad you like it!
Absolutely an amazing Video and tutorial keep doing what youdo best 😊
Thank you so much 😁
@@RadicalElder 😎
To solve the issue of the farm sometimes producing 2 buckets and you only receive 1 in a much simpler and more connected way, just have the dropper drop 2 buckets using an observer and using hoppers to pick up the excess and a dropper elevator to elevate the buckets back up into the dispenser,
Agreed, this would be one way to do this with a bit more work - I replied the same thing to Something Something's comments about an hour or 90 mins ago. I'll look into it - thanks!
YES! I built this farm! This guy is indeed a genius! Subbed n liked, much love!
Awesome, I'm glad it worked out for you and thanks for the sub! :)
hi!!! you explain everything so clearly. thank you for posting this!!!! :D
You're so welcome! Thanks for checking it out. :)
I love this. finally a supersmelter that is self sustainable that's amazing 👏
Yes! Thank you! I love having the 5 minute Lava Farm but this 20 minute version is EVEN BETTER with the Super Smelter.
You are a GENIUS!
I mean, that's one way to get the pinned comment. Flattery will get you everywhere 😂
you are very smart and i would have never been able to come up with the part of the farm you built, but the problem with it is that a bamboo powered smelter will just always be superior since bamboo grows so abundantly and its like the best smelter even if lava smelts 100 items
Bamboo smelters lag horribly compared to this so for people with lower end machines, this is the only way. On servers, this is the better way. And in singleplayer it's very compact and can hide away inside builds and not have to be covered with a build that's 25+ blocks tall. :) So it has its uses. Also if you want to smelt say 5 shulkers of smooth stone, the amount of bamboo in your farm will need to be huge. This will do it easily and with lava to spare.
Hey, I just built this smelter and realised there are some flaws.
When smelting boxes of items, the collection system of cooked items will clock up really fast. Our hoppers underneath the furnaces were completely filled up since the hoppers can't keep up with the amount of items being cooked.
Another flaw is the item distribution, if the hopper on top of the minecart is full, it will let the minecart always go. But the minecart can't take enough items to refill the furnaces because of that.
I'd suggest trying a minecart to collect cooked items, if possible (I'll try to find my way around it).
My fix for the distribution of items is, to activate the minecart manually, then using a detector rail which activates a small clock to give the minecart enough time to collect the raw materials.
Yeah there are a couple things I want to fix. The main ones are what you mentioned plus the fuel not being enough for 50 furnaces. Over time, sure, but if you want to smelt "boxes" at a time, it's not enough. After testing and using this for a few months I'd call it a great mid-game furnace but not endgame. I will build the end-game version soon, I hope!
@@RadicalElder it's a great by no means 😉 We just needed something to smelt, since we don't have a good way of getting lots of coal yet. My dumb friend just decided to smelt 4 boxes of cobblestone instead of just haste mining stone with a silk Touch😂
Amazing farm/smelter rad
tyty! It's a really useful one! Bit terrifying looking but it's not too bad to build.
That was amazing!! GG
Thanks Beth! I enjoyed this one. I hope people like it.
This is an amazing design, well done.
Although you would probably spend 50 hours smelting iron to save you a couple of hours long run.
But it is fun and awesome
I use iron from an ianxofour iron farm almost every time so just put that at spawn, do a few chores, you have the iron for the cauldrons. :)
on the bucket rail on I put one normal rail then a power rail at the ned that way you can power it by a lever and charge up the lava buckets before sending them out less waste when running
Nice, good work!
Would it be more efficient to turn off the cauldron chain and let them fill first? or have it constantly running? obviously one is more bucket intensive than the other, but aside from that, not sure if it affects the fill rate of the cauldrons
It doesn't affect fill rate very much. I turn it off most of the time because it's a bit loud, then I just run it when it's a bit more full unless I'm using it as a lava farm. Then I empty it, run it AFK for a bit, fill it back up and go again. :)
is there a way to passively pull lava out of the cauldrons or does it have to be AFK?
Unfortunately not, it has to include the player pulling them.
HI, ^^
just made it , i look to understand every part of your amazing farm, (really amazing) i have a question : what's the purpose of the lever behind the chest under the cauldrons?
when i activate the farm, i understand that you activate the lever at the corner with no empty space with a double clic , that s ok, if i try to manipulate the lever behind the chest it's not make any change.
The hopper catches the buckets you throw and then puts them in the chest. The lever behind the chest locks the chest so you can "keep" lava buckets in there if you want. Maybe you are making my hoglin farm and want 50 buckets of lava - it won't go into the furnaces, it just stays beside you to use for other things than the furnace.
@@RadicalElder thank you so much for your answer ^^
@@RadicalElder Hi again ^o^, i have a trouble on one thing (lava buckets and hoppers works perfectly don't worry).
In the video i saw somethings that i don't understand again :/
It seem to be an automatic refill and go for the smelter cart am i wrong?
The cart is Off, the double chest with hoppers refill with the double super light speed ^^
and when it's full, i did the same thing as you , put a comparator in the good way, a repetor and 2 redstone.
A signal pass through the comparator and activate the redstone signal , the cart go to his purpose automaticaly, this is exactly like you , we are ok. ^o^ but just after that,
The "Off" powered rail stay inactive But The redstone signal stay ON and i don't now why.
Really i look at this video in 25% speed, 10 times since this morning and i don't know why the cart stop , refill but stay in place.
it look like it's automatic in your video. Cart stop , refill and go alone . Mine is on strike ^o^
Thank you a lot for your response, your design is the angular piece to my huge automatic farm.
I connect to the input a lot of automatic farms: chicken, porc, beef, lamb, potatoes, kelps, stone, sand, and in the output i use an Item Sorter
The cart loader is a bit strange. I'll tell you two ways to fix it:
If the cart does not fill up +23 items in the hopper it won't send so you have to use the lever to send it yourself.
If the cart does fill up and the hopper somehow fills MORE than 23, it won't send so take everything out of the hopper and let it start over from 0 and it will run automatically.
One of those two things should fix your problem. :)
Thank you so much for your patience and explanation ^^
I watched through once and intend to watch again but where and how do the furnaces get more lava buckets in them when a bucket is already there? How do the empty buckets come out of the furnaces?
I know this is over a year after release but thank you for any response
So lava buckets go into the chest, up the water elevator, over into the chest near the top. The minecart grabs 5, distributes them to any hoppers that need it, and those hoppers feed the furnace. When it's used, the bucket is simply returned the same way as the output items, which is what leads to that filtered section that points into the dropper. So you get the empty buckets back and ready to use again. And I reply to every comment on my channel (so far) so no worries. haha
Do all the rails need to be powered or can I switch a few out if I don’t have enough gold?
You just need the speed to get around. It may take more redstone blocks if you swap some normal rails in.
Ok thank you
But, the lava will need to fill up the corresponding hopper of each furnace to pass to the next furnace and do the same all over again right? So, the smelter to star to run efficiently will need a lot of time filling each and every hopper of lava?
Yeah what a lot of people have done when they build this is fill each of the hoppers that goes into the back of the furnaces with 4 non fuel items so each furnace only needs 1 lava bucket to get started. :)
@@RadicalElder Yeah, I then realized that than you, love the full design!!
This is a great design mate. I hope you can help me troubleshoot it if I goose it up haha!
Good luck with it. I do have a discord if you need any help with it! (Sometimes easier than YT comments)
Whelp it went amazingly! No major trouble shooting required. Only change I'd make in the future is use somthing like dirt for the temp blocks so they're easier to discern othet than that top notch guide with great perspectives and advice for how the build functions. Cheers my man
No one will see this probably, but the comparator activates upon having 24 items in the hopper below the chest, but for some reason the minecart does not get sent away without me doing it manually. Any idea how to fix that?
The redstone signal should activate the first rail. Check you have the right rail and redstone correct after I had to fix it.
Also I see and reply to all messages :)
@@RadicalElder thanks for answering! i did pull it all up one block like you showed, but the rail never activates. is there an item supposed to be in the hopper or dispenser next to it? i couldnt figure out what they were doing in the contraption
@@garnix5427 yes put 1 item in either side.
The top minecart doesn't reload and unload fast enough. A lot of lava fuel is wasted in the time that it takes to reload every furnace.
DO you have a fix for this? I tried to slow down the top minecart as much as I could but its still inefficiently burning the fuel
No this isn't really designed to be efficient and use every tick of the lava's burning capability. It's meant to keep you from spending coal with something renewable. OP coal smelters just require a whole tree farm or a wither skeleton farm in a perimeter or something to operate, which I didn't like.
Nice work, when will the version 2 video comes out？
As soon as it makes sense and fixes the problems this one has. I don't want to just smash a bunch more stuff in, I want it to be more efficient if I'm going to bother making one.
I built the lava farm as 11x 11 so what changes will I need in the materials list
I can't really help you fully customise it like that but if you added 4 more cauldrons, you're going to need more hoppers, more rail and more furnaces.
at ths point what are you smelting when you have already found so much iron?
Sand, stone, basalt, netherrack, nether gold, all kinds of stuff. Also iron is a day 1 resource so very early game.
Thanks for the tutorial. I'd like to build this in my world but it's quite a large farm to build block by block. Unfortunately litematica isn't available for Forge. Is it possible for you to share a world download? That would be much appreciated. Thanks!
I'll see what I can do but it may be a while. I have plans to build a single world download for a few of my projects.
so i just built this i have not run it smelting yet but have read some of the comments and to hopefully to help a little i have added a snake in the piston belt to the middle and gained 15 additional dripstone plus caldrons with just 4 additional piston stations as for the hopper problem not sure if a water system would help it could feed multiple hoppers that should speed things up
As long as you aren't smelting like 8 shulkers of stuff, most of the "problems" are just not wanting to player-interact or not wanting to wait for it to finish properly ... it works, it works pretty well ... it's just not "fast." It's mid-game, not meant to be late game for anyone, so it does the job but yeah it needs a v2 or something. haha
@@RadicalElder that's all true i guess some people just like to moan :) it looks like it will serve my needs and i only added the extra laver sources to help me get it full quicker so i can just set me AFK there any time i nip off to do something to get as much fuel in it as i can so when i do get round to needing it it is ready to go
all in all i think its a cool design i just need to put it in a big building now though :D
hey! just saying, great farm, but when I get to the first repeater part, where you place the redstone torch under it and there's a hopper feeding into it, (4:57), the buckets cant seem to go through the hopper
Did you put the torch on the ground or on the side of the block? This is impulseSV item filter so you may just want to look it up and be sure. :)
@@RadicalElder it's on the side of the block currently
Holy moly
:) Very moly.
Is there any chance I could get the dimensions of the farm? I've tried to figure it out by pausing but don't want to be wrong.
The build is 22x24 (24 is front to back) but including some of the additions more like 26 front to back. You'd want a couple blocks around it - safe to assume the build should have at least 24x28 and you'd at least be able to move around. 30x30 would give you MORE than plenty. If you put it indoors, give yourself 10 high for extra room from the cauldrons to the ceiling.
Awesome tutorial
Also what resource pack is that?
Vanilla Tweaks :)
Heyo I have a problem with the redstone signals that send the minecart back off to restock the items, once the hopper gets to 24 items. My problem however is that it does not go back out. Any Idea on what might be causing that?
Do you have one item in the clock that it's activating? It should activate that one item to go to the other side and then back - which powers then depowers the rail
@@RadicalElder By that I take it you mean the dispenser/hopper off to the right of the storage correct? Yes there is a block in it. When the minecart comes back it only stays if the powered rail is off, as its filling up the comparator is ticking, once the hopper reaches 24 it makes an audible click sound, which I assume is the signal to send the minecart on its way, but nothing happens
Is it a powered rail? When it hits 24 is it BEING powered? That's what should happen ... It sounds like some part has gone wrong with it for you. If you're on discord, ask in my "tech help" channel and I'm sure someone can tell you nearly instantly, if not me.
@@RadicalElder will do, ty
On paper 1.19.2 server, I replaced chests (in tutorial chest for fuel - on server chest for items) because furnaces does not load correctly.
Strange, this should work exactly the same on Paper but I understand it depends how the individual server has things setup, too.
Hello! I Tried replicating this in creative 1.19.3 but for some reason the cauldron do not move whenever I flick the lever twice rapidly. I do not know why and do not know how to solve this. I’d really like to solve this cause this seems the best and only auto fueled smelter on UA-cam! I used the schematic to recreate this build and see if it worked. Please someone can help me?
Do you only have one cauldron in the corners. Sounds like you have either 2 or an extended piston in the way.
Hi, i have watched and build this farm, but there is a slight problem...each time i start the farm and right click on the cauldron, right after i take lava from the cauldron, the cauldron stops spinning or moving in circle..it just stops working..can anyone help with this.
That doesn't make sense to me. Can you get into my discord and add a photo to the vanilla-mc channel? I'll take a look from there but it's hard to fix something strange like that on comments.
Can I know how much of each material was used? Like how much quartz, blocks, redstone, chests, etc? It can be useful info for my multiplayer survival world
Materials list is already in the description. :)
@@RadicalElder thank you friend
SOOOO good
Thanks tolop!
howcome when im filling up the farm for the first use, some of the lava buckets just disappear like i would use 16 buckets and only like 3 of the furnaces are filled
The furnace fills, then the hoppers. So each one is 6 buckets before it moves on.
@@RadicalElder ohhhh that makes sense nevermind
How many items do you recommend for the etho clock?
For the bucket resupply part after the farm is done? Oh gosh ... um, I've changed the tech on my personal one so much that I don't remember. If you are only EVER using this full, and not AFK, you won't need it really. If you're trying to AFK and make sure you never EVER run out of buckets, I'd say something really low like 4-8. If you just want the occasional resupply so you can casually game maybe 20 would keep you from losing them all over time? I haven't thoroughly tested ANY of that though.
@@RadicalElder Don't worry man is okay. I'll test it. Thank you!
is it possible to scale this down? just curious before i build it
I'm sure it is but you'd have to rewire a bit of it, most likely. Mysticat has an expandable "any size" smelter that may suit your needs better - this one's mainly interesting b/c it uses lava but it's not end game fast, nor is it early game cheap.
awesome thanks!@@RadicalElder
I got a problem with the input minecart loader-it doesn’t fill the minecart then travel on the tracks so it’s been unproportionately filling only the first several furnaces…
Sounds like the lever is always on? Let it fill up by turning the lever off and it should stop, fill fully and then go back out?
@@RadicalElder okay I didn’t realize that part was manual I thought the comparator turned on the track when the cart was full. Thank u
Do all of those powered rails need to be powered for this to function?
No it just simplifies the build. Otherwise you need a bunch more redstone blocks or another way to power the movement. As long as they can get around that's all that matters.
@@RadicalElder Alright, thank you! A few more questions I've been having since I built this... What does the lever beneath the one cauldron actually do? And why does it need 300 buckets rather than enough to fill the furnaces + the dropper?
If you flick the lever, the lava buckets stay in the chest and don't go to the top. This is useful when you need the smelter to act like a lava farm, not a lava super smelter.
I say to start with 300 because that fills all furnaces (50) and all hoppers (5x50 = 250). You can then just collect more for the chest up top but that becomes backup. You don't *have* to have 300 to run it but it works best when starting with it full. I normally throw another 10-20 stacks of buckets in the dropper just to get started and that seems to keep it all working smoothly.
@@RadicalElder Alright then, that helps a ton! Thanks!
Bro, can you say when you will release V2? Approx date
I don't know - the concept is done but not the draft build and not a final build. It will still be a little while so I would use this one for now if you need a smelter.
is this better than coal? also wondering if i could just collect the lava like a normal lava farm
It's way better than coal if you don't like mining, want a renewable resource, or have other uses for the coal, yes. It's better than other renewable resources like bamboo because it's less laggy and better than blaze rods b/c you have to manually transport those.
You can use this as a lava farm just by flicking the switch behind the lowest chest (the one you AFK next to) and it will collect lava buckets in that chest for you. If you want to run around the farm and just collect them manually, that works too and I do that often when I don't want to stick around I'm just doing a driveby collection. :)
@@RadicalElder ty man will build it rn :)
does the lava farm usually take awhile to fill up?
Yes the first time it takes a bit. You are filling 6 per furnace (furnace + 5 in hopper) so you need 300 to fill it. Then I recommend just collecting when you can like if you're doing a big smelt empty it out.
wouldnt it make it use alot less buckets if you just fill 4 slots of all the that have the lava buckets with dirt
Yes, you can do that to get started for sure. I tend not to so I can use the hoppers as extra bucket storage. Short term filling them with dirt is better to get started. Longterm I always find my chests full of lava buckets.
you could just make the bucket dispenser spit out two instead of one, player in full inv with a stack of bucket don't pick up the extra one so you could just hook it up to go back to the empty bucket place, or the bucket dispenser....
i also thought you would put a system where the fuel source only activates once every hopper have one bucket of lava each, and then it releases giving the furnace fuel........
its just more convenient and better that way in my opinion
Shooting two would require you to have a dropper elevator under the entire system - a bit more complex for sure. It's a good idea for a possible V2 but it's probably even more technical. When we watched the premiere last night the common thread was "this looks hard" so I'm trying to simplify more than complicate.
Fueling once every furnace only had one would be ideal but would require a lot more redstone inside the farm, as well. I think they're great ideas, but just complicating a farm that is more meant for everyone. There are more in depth systems out there for those who have more traditional fuel but I couldn't even find a lava smelter other than Mumbo's and a couple done in survival but no tutorials at all.
@@RadicalElder i do not know you that much to know about premiere thingy, but I see this is for everyone, i only said this because adding that thingy behind your back doesn't look so good so i just wanted to move that out of the way to make it look more pleasing since you like doing that, and for the sake of complication i think its more convenient that way instead of relying on a clock
also, the fuel thingy was just a thingy i need and was hoping you have answers lmao, but i actually found that mumbo jumbo video after watching yours a bit and i replicated it and it works.
I appreciate the feedback - it's a technical farm and I'd love to make it the best possible. I'll keep working on it as we go. Love the suggestions.
when it came to the soul sand part nothing came out from the top.
you know how to fix it
Check the redstone is all setup the right way with repeaters facing properly ... you're on Java, yes? Not Bedrock (windows/PE)
Aproved
Thanks!
Any reason why my lava buckets may be getting stuck in hoppers and not going into the furnaces?
Do I need to put filler items in every hopper or something?
Most likely you have the hoppers facing with the point down not into the furnace. They need to be pointed into the back of each furnace (shift+click). Check the point of the hopper. Otherwise they should be going in if there's nothing in the furnace. No filters needed.
@@RadicalElder My hoppers are all pointed into the back however it just is not going into my furnaces for some reason. just try and rebuild i guess.
Strange and they're STUCK in the hopper? And there's nothing in the fuel slot of the furnace? Hard to diagnose by text beyond that. You're welcome to join my discord and send some pics so we can take a look.
Hopper that use to add fuel doesn't load lava bucket, how do i gix this?
Edit:nvm, i just put hopper under the chest
Glad you got it figured out :)
@@RadicalElder now i found another problem... on hopper of fuel is got stopped by repeater facing in the block, what should i do?
Works really good but the cauldron are getting filled very slowly is that normal or is it a problem on my site?
They fill every 19 mins on average
@@RadicalElder alright thanks, another question the System to activate the upper Minecart isn't working I've build it exactly like shown, does it have to be a specific item in the dropper?
No but make sure your comparator at the front of the redstone bit is on subtract mode. Lots of people make that mistake. If it is not loading, take everything from the cart and hoppers and chest. Is only one rail deactivated or two? If it's one, put all the items back in the chest and see when the hopper gets +23 items does it not power? That's a redstone problem and something is built wrong.
My top minecart is full and won't collect anymore stone to cook. It gets to the end of the track and doesn't go anywhere unless I manually push it.
The hopper likely got too full. Remove the 5 stacks from the hopper and put it back in the chest at the top. It should restart itself automatically from there.
@RadicalElder got it. Im also having the problem of all the Lava buckets filling up the first 10 or so furnaces and not having enough blocks to cook while the other 20+ furnaces at the end have all the blocks and not enough fuel
@@brooksv5429 You should definitely fill the entire furnace before starting it the first time. I believe I said that in the video somewhere, though. It takes about 300 buckets to get it up to full speed the first time, otherwise you'll have that problem.
This takes a ton more repeaters than are listed in the description. I didn't realize that until doing my modified build of this in Bedrock 1.19, survival mode, where I had to actually create this piece by piece, and couldn't just hit E in creative mode and get an instant stack of 64 that goes on eternally. Also, it uses more redstone torches, at least in Bedrock. I'm working on recording my build of this in Becrock's survival mode, after I got it functioning in Bedrock's creative mode. It's a real doozie! Very expensive.
It's not meant for bedrock so none of the redstone torches, etc. whatever numbers are even listed. The description says 4 repeaters. That's 2 near the soul sand for the clock, 1 on the item filter and 1 near the top right chest. It's correct.
My item list isn't for the "tips" section and the advanced fixes. Most people who build it don't add all the extra functionality for full restocking. The required materials list is correct to build the smelter itself, which is what this video covers.
Also, I have this working in bedrock. I don't know why it wouldn't work for you but it straight works for me. Unsure what you would be fixing other than the extras at the end of the video.
I've built this in my hardcore YT and my hardcore Twitch world. I'm aware how it works ... comment seems ... idk. Out of place.
Considering I'm 90% the way to producing a much improved V2 of this and fixing most of the common issues people have actually had, it would be a bit of a silly idea to reproduce a bedrock video of this when the idea is solid but the execution rightfully needed work. Reproducing this farm and not iterating on it would be incredibly shortsighted.
so u need to fill the lava urself or is there a way for the farm to do it automatically?
The farm does it as you use it. It just takes a while the first time
@@RadicalElder oh ok I mean u have to go afk to fill up the lava buckets. So u cant go anywhere else away from the farm if u want the lava buckets to fill up right? Thank u for the quick reply btw
@@amintje5219 correct you can't get lava away from the farm
@@RadicalElder ok that’s all I wanted to know thank u very much
where do you put the 300 buckets
As you use the farm, 50 will go to the furnaces, and 250 will sit behind in the hoppers. If you want to start it quicker you can always manually move 50 buckets into the furnaces first, otherwise it fills from the end. If you're filling it yourself, drop lava buckets into the chest over the lower rail - not the input chest for items but the other one next to it up top.
yo, i just built the farm, its working as a lava farm, but not as a smelter, the buckets only went in like 5 furnaces, even tho i already filled like 50 buckets, i dont even know where they went, i searched the whole farm, how do i make it work? the bricks i put in the furnace that are melting, they are just nowhere to be found, not on any chest its supposed to go
edit: the furnaces seem to working? i guess you just gotta keep filling buckets? it went from 5 to idk 9, and another thing is the bricks smelted seem to be going to the bucket dropper, because of that hopper that's pointed at the comparator, idk how to fix this honestly, actually now half of the bricks went to the chest its supposed to and half went to the dropper part
Hey Magma, you gotta fill it up the "first time" you use it - it takes 300ish lava buckets to start so run the farm as a lava farm for a while. You'll know it's ready to run when the lava minecraft is full and not picking up any from the fuel chest at the top.
Basically it starts putting them in furnaces and hoppers and that's 6 per times 50 furnaces.
@@RadicalElder ty for the response! but filling it up like manually at each furnace?
also what about the part where the bricks go to the dropper instead of the main chest?
@@magmahd2163 You can fill the furnaces manually with the first 50 buckets if you want.
If the bricks are going to the dropper, you don't have the filter done correctly. if buckets are going to the output chest you have it backwards. If buckets ARE going to the dropper then the filter is wrong and EVERYTHING is going there. I'd just revisit that part of the video.
@@RadicalElder everything is fixed now, completely working, but it takes some hours to fill every furnace lmao
This is a cool design but I have an issue with lag and am wondering if anyone else has experienced this also I’m playing Java 1.19.2 and I put this build in my industrial district on my world I usually run at an average of 165 FPS or so and have been having normal spikes as low as 60 FPS and some quick ones even dropping my FPS to a choppy rate when I look at my f3 menu it shows that it’s using 100% gpu I’m running with a 3060 12gb so I don’t really get what part of this is really killing my pc so bad
It shouldn't be this farm causing you lag. You probably have a ton of hoppers or villagers or item frames somewhere nearby? My guess is hoppers if this farm is what you built when you started noticing b/c this one has some hoppers. Not enough to cause lag by itself but if you have it near another 200 or 500 or 1000, it's hopper lag. Cover the ones in the rest of your builds with composters anywhere that you can.
@@RadicalElder I have less than 50 hoppers in the loaded chunks from where I built it and none of them could can be covered my guess is something to do with the lava because I’m not having a lot of cpu load and am running well below the allocated ram usage but it’s spiking my gpu load up to 100%
what texture pack are you using?
Vanilla Tweaks :)
@@RadicalElder tysm!
where i put all my 300 buckets pls answer
5 per hopper. Then in lava chest.
@@RadicalElder thanks man
why the farm don't work i use the litematica and the pston don't work fine
You have to find where the extra cauldron is and turn it off and on quickly. Make sure there are no other pistons extended in the way of the square before you start and then just *flickflick* two times quickly to make it start. If you are too slow the piston stays out and the next one can't move.
Where do the empty buckets go? They are just staying in the dropper and filling up in the hoppers behind the dropper... It never spits anything out.
Throw any item into the hopper in front of where you stand. If you put one in and the dropper doesn't fire one back at you, the redstone is somehow wrong on your end (or you're in Bedrock / MCPE)
@@RadicalElder Hey thanks for the fast reply! So I'm a little confused on which hopper you mean. So I'm in MC Java just to clear the up. I have the Dropper connected to the 3 hoppers like in the video and one hopper going into the comparator with 20 names blocks in stacks of 5 and then the 6 buckets. after the empty buckets stack in that hopper the move along to the dropper and just pile up there filling that dropper. Should that dropper be connected to anything else? Thank you so much in advanced for the help!
Pause at 5:49 in the video. See the hopper facing into the double chest behind the comparator? If you put one item in there - any item - the comparator should fire, triggering the redstone, which should send you a new bucket. So just toss anything - dirt or whatever, into that hopper. Your inventory should get +1 buckets if that section is setup right. Keep in mind the hopper is faced into the chest here, not that comparator.
Hope it helps. If not, I go live in about 4 hours. Ask me to show you on my livestream at twitch dot tv / radicalelder
@@RadicalElder At 5:49 i am referencing the dropper on the right, just above and to the right of the quartz slabs. Thats where the empty buckets go and just pile up. I would love to come to the stream live but I'll be long asleep by then, (way different Time zone)
Yes, that's where the empty buckets should be.
How the farm works is this: once you've built the whole thing, you fill your inventory except one stack of buckets. So you have 16. When you turn the pistons on, you'll hold down right click facing the cauldron in front of the hopper that goes into the chest. When a lava bucket gets picked up, it falls into the hopper in front of you. That should trigger the comparator to the right of the hopper, which triggers the redstone next to the dropper, which triggers the dropper to send you another bucket. You should start with 16 and after picking up the first lava, still have 16 buckets.
I really need a smaller version of this like 3 cauldron
I feel likel for 3 cauldrons you just hang up the dripstone over some lava and then take the buckets out manually and stick them in 3 furnaces next to it. haha
for some reason the dropper doesnt drop me a bucket
Throw an item into the hopper while looking at the comparator. Does it light up? item in hopper should light the comparator. That should power the block, which powers the dust, which fires the dropper. Something in there is wrong if putting one item in the hopper doesn't dispense one item from the dropper.
Good morning
Good morning, Winter. Hope you're well! :) Enjoy the vid.
what is the scale of it in x z and y
It's about 22x24x8 so you want some room around. Best footprint maybe 24x26x11.
Very cool concept! A world download would nice tho
Thanks, I added a schematic download to the description. :)
@@RadicalElder Can you also do a world download pls?
Is this expandable?
Not easily - the hopper return is a bit slow and it needs some fixes. It's a good midgame smelter but if you have decent redstone experience you're better off making something like ilmango's 320 furnace array for something larger. Lava is a good fuel source but the lines on this are fairly simple and it definitely works but over the year+ I've used it we've found ways we want to improve it. haha
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It really is! I love doing things like this - modifying existing farms to work a bit better. Maybe I'll do a few more soon :)
My cave when I decide to build this farm
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Will be totally decked out! :D
dimentions before starting would have been nice
Very fair, I was very much learning how to create a half decent video a year ago. I def agree. I think I normally clear out a 22x22x10 area and just fit it into that - that's way bigger than you need but it's a start at dimensions.
its cool but furnaces are normally player-less. I've only recently started using flying machines and its so easy if you dont care about losing some bamboo lol
Let's run the math: 50 buckets will smelt 5000 items, it takes 20,000 bamboo to smelt the same amount. This compact system holds enough fuel to smelt 30,000 items, which would require 120,000 bamboo. One bamboo grows on average every 205 seconds, or just over 3 minutes so to ensure you can refill a 50 furnace smelter enough to continue smelting you'd need a massive field of bamboo, not a 12 wide, 100 long or something.
Basically, I've had bamboo field flying machines for 3 years. This is FAR better imo. You don't need to be there unless the system needs more buckets. The first load up is a bit slow but after that this should win.
@@RadicalElder oh sure, but my point is the time investment like.. to build this and get everything for it.. and then have to come back to it to refuel it... to sort out the buckets from the output. It's funny how I'm over buckets and now into bamboo, and you're over bamboo and now into buckets haha.
You don't sort buckets from the input - they're automatically fed back into the bucket refiller - so the filter at least takes care of that part. But yes, very funny that we've swapped. I had a massive bamboo fueler before but when doing big, big projects it just became unwieldy for my needs. I'll be building this in my HC series so maybe you'll get to see how it works for me specifically. :)
When the minecart is full it wont go automatically
You can't fill the hopper - if the hopper above the minecart has more than 20 items, remove them all and put them back in the chest. It should leave after that.
If it does not, you probably forgot the single item in the dropper/hopper clock.
Man my cart isn’t taking off on it’s own, that part of your tutorial isn’t very clear.. Please help me out
The cart should run on its own as long as the cart is full and the hopper only has the right number of items. If the cart isn't full because there's no more to go in, you'll need to flip the lever to send it automatically. Leave it on for a few runs then turn it back off. If the cart isn't running because the cart is full AND the hopper has more than 1 stack in it, move everything in the hopper back to the chest and it will run automatically again.
can i expand it?
A little bit - but you have to respect piston push limits. This is more of a concept than a "be-all and end-all" smelter. You can definitely improve the layout of the caudrons and do way more with it, this was a simple "all in one" method of doing this type smelter.
I built this design in survival... The number of issues and adjustments I made was very frustrating. If you want to build this, I recommend you read my comment.
_MAIN ISSUES_
LAVA BUCKET LOADING
Problem: The lava buckets load up the first 8-10 hoppers and the rest of the farm does not get any.
Fix: Fill each hopper (only the ones for loading furnaces with lava buckets) with four of any items that cannot be smelted. This will make it so that every furnace will have a lava bucket inside the furnace and a standby in the hopper that feeds it.
UNLOADING SYSTEM
Problem: The hoppers will fill up very quickly because the furnaces all smelt faster than hoppers can move items. This will cause a backlog and clog everything up. It also makes it so that buckets do not return because they are stuck in limbo never making it through the huge queue of items.
Fix: My fix for this was using a hopper minecart that goes around the bottom of all furnaces. This works great HOWEVER you must use a very tricky method to deposit the items into the chests because if you do not you run into the same issue as before where the hoppers fill up and don't unload fast enough. The solution was to use 4 more hopper minecarts inside blocks clipped together in a complex unloader that takes all the contents from the main collector and deposit them into 9 different hoppers equally.
STORAGE SYSTEM
Problem: With all the adjustments made so far, there are bound to be lots of more unforeseen issues to come. One was the storage. Only using hoppers to transport the materials to chests was far too slow. A large backlog would appear which is a running theme in this build.
Fix: below the depositing zone, set up droppers that throw all items out as fast as they can. From that, they drop into an item sorting system. This is important because it allows the bucket to be discerned from other materials. (Make sure to have a few overflow chests in case your machine starts to work overtime).
LAVA CAULDRONS
Problem: Once you get the whole machine working as efficiently as possible with the above fixes you will realize that you run out of lava far too fast. This is because each furnace takes two buckets at a time die the with the hopper holding on and the furnace holding one.
Fix: You must make the cauldron loop much longer (I recommend twice as long). This can be tricky, but it is possible and allows for maximum efficiency.
This design with these adjustments is amazing and works like a charm.
There's a lot that is correct here, which is why I've been busily working on a new version of this that fixes some of the existing problems. This version was meant to fill a void - there are NO good designs for a lava super smelter on YT so this one was that for a little while but yes the technicals aren't perfect here.
LAVA BUCKET LOADING - Yes but also no. I just fill the sucker up completely. 300+ buckets, you're off and running. Your solution is a good one for the startup phase though and something I would probably recommend as it gets up and going if you need to immediately use it. Long term this thing makes more buckets than 99% of people will ever smelt through.
UNLOADING & STORAGE SYSTEM - running 50 hoppers in a line is a mess, yep. The solution I will use in the future entirely fixes this but if you're in a rush this isn't the smelter to use anyways. I'm not trying to be the fastest, just use lava, power furnaces, let it rip. This does that but yes, unloading can take a while unfortunately. Using a very tricky redstone station to collect is possible but let's be honest, nobody makes the super technical stuff in survival or hardcore worlds because they can't follow it very well. This is MUCH more mainstream, just slower.
LAVA - Again, turning corners and making extra changes is possible, it's just not a lot of fun for people who want to build a lava smelter in survival. A few of your solutions say "this is tricky but" and that's the recurring theme. THIS build is the simple and kinda slow version. The one I'm working on is a faster, more efficient version but that takes some technical work. Obviously here I just spammed in some furnaces around the already existing smelter design and feed them.
So I would say there's a lot that is dead on correct in your assessment of this version's issues. It's just ... there is/was no fast alternative that kept things simple to build.
V2 will fix: item distribution (much faster), item collection (much faster), lava collection (much larger, thus more available).
Hopefully some of your workarounds help people in the meantime.
can this smelter be made one way?
One way so the cart keeps going around in a circle rather than looping back? Maybe but it would be a different build. I'm working on a v2 of this that will improve a few of the main issues though. What problem are you trying to solve?
@@RadicalElder I mean, I want to make it with a small room with a one-way lava farm and one-way smelter
one way I mean just one straight way
@@HalfOfAbused oh just straight? Sure you can do that, too. :) I was just keeping the footprint of the farm small by wrapping it around.
Great build! i'm having an issue where the pistons stop pushing the cauldrons randomly and the farm stops any idea why?
Did you remove the ones above the observers? That's what does that normally. If you filled them ALL in, it will always eventually break.
@@RadicalElder I did not! Thank you so much!
My loader for the Minecart doesn’t stop
Fuel one never does. For the item one, you need to flick the switch if the first rail is powered.
Does this work on bedrock
I know the lava farm part does, but it's been a while and I'm not sure but a year ago someone said "This works on bedrock as well, just replace the solid block next to the piston with redstone dust and put the lever on the piston itself"
Others had it work when then followed this comment so that would be my suggestion. :)
2:52 is that not 16 furnaces?
yep
Okay haha. But I don't understand what's wrong with the small redstone system at 10:45, I assume when the minecart is full, it's meant to activate the dropper to drop the one item to activate the second comparator, however it is not doing this, and I have to manually stop the minecart to let it fill up more
half the farm is missing in the schematic
I've just opened the schem in creative and it seems to all be there to me? I didn't put the advanced stuff in there like the 2nd refill thing, etc. but the whole farm is there. If you can't see it, you're in layer mode (all above, all below, etc.) just go to "All Layers" (generally M+Page Up or M+Page Down cycle until you get it) and all layers will show up. Not sure otherwise as I see the whole farm.
Does it work on bedrock
According to some of the commenters yes, "This works on bedrock as well, just replace the solid block next to the piston with redstone dust and put the lever on the piston itself" - that was their way of converting it and others said this fix worked. Haven't tested myself but it seems to, yes. All the mechanics should work.
Can you please do this in Bedrock 1.19 and make it a 10-everything system? I only have 10 dripstone and that idiot wandering trader doesn't sell them hardly ever. I'm in survival, so it's extremely hard to come by the dripstones otherwise.
I can't but if you search "silentwisperer dripstone farm" and just build the first one you'll have more than you know what to do with. :)
@@RadicalElder I'm not after the lava alone. I need the machine you have here, where it puts it's own buckets of lava in the furnace(s) for the player. I've started working on trying to augment this in Bedrock 1.19 creative mode. I got the first part, with the pistons and cauldrons working (it needed extra redstone to connect each corner, so the whole thing is surrounded by redstone), but the part with the hopper, dirt, and 16 buckets doesn't work (because it's not Java, I'm sure). So, I'm playing around with that, but don't expect much to happen. I was hoping you'd know some trick to fix that and any other hiccups that come along. Thanks for your quick reply though!
@@RadicalElder Well, the wandering trader has burning ears I guess. He sold me another 10 dripstone a few hours after I posted this, so now I have 20!
@@RadicalElder Also, I'm now at the 10 to 11 minute mark in the tutorial. If it's possible, it would help if you could grab that section of video and post it separately, but slowed way down (without the audio being slowed down, the way the UA-cam controls do it). There's a lot of hopping, spinning, and item placement going on in rapid succession, and it's a little hard to follow because it's in a 3D environment, and you're working on multiple levels almost at once. I'll use the UA-cam controls without audio and try to follow along, but having the audio at normal speed (with breaks between steps for us farming noobs) would really be helpful, in a separate video (so those who aren't noobs don't have to wait around in this video).
by my calculations this need at least 700.000 hoppers
lol Slightly fewer than 180. But yeah there's a few...
sir that bucket cannot b e automated
I'm not sure what you mean. Lava farms require the player. So does my smelter.
@@RadicalElder u have a doubt can you come vc
2:53 It's 16 not 15. You put down 16
Yep, it's been pointed out but all the way back in 2022. haha I would redo the tutorial but as the pinned comment says, we have known issues with it and I'd like to at least attempt to fix some of that with my 2024 tech knowledge before I do.
@@RadicalElder You also messed up the red stone, but it's an easy fix. If you want, I can build a new fame for you, and you can use that for a video.
@@crispycream66 I would use a much different farm so it's prob not worth. This one has some issues but works.
oh my god i used wood for my building block im actually going to die
what is wrong with me now i have to rebuild all of it to stone ahhhhhhhh
lol sorry to hear it. I would rebuild it in warped wood just to be stubborn.
i fixed it but now im missing a comparator and i checked every hopper and every chest and every dropper and every furnace and its not there and im hoping it doesnt mess up the whole farm