Attacking Like a Mad Man || Boden vs Morphy (1858)

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  • @spartacus778
    @spartacus778 4 роки тому +441

    Morphy was a madman. Can't get enough of his games. And our boy here is the best man to present them. Excellent stuff.

    • @mepposhow
      @mepposhow 4 роки тому +11

      The truth hurts.

    • @NavinBetamax
      @NavinBetamax 4 роки тому +1

      .....and.....The Hurt is Painful too !!! Lol !

    • @ag1806
      @ag1806 4 роки тому +10

      I thought Boden is madman in this video for attacking like Madman 6:55

    • @mohamedhusam8189
      @mohamedhusam8189 4 роки тому +2

      @@ag1806 both are madmen

    • @crackstagebuch1779
      @crackstagebuch1779 4 роки тому +1

      and it was in this position, that paul charles morphy
      Kira Queen, daisan no bakudan Bite Za dastu
      and it was in this position, that paul charles morphy...

  • @GsonProductions534
    @GsonProductions534 4 роки тому +429

    You sure know how to make a board game sound like a crazy battlefield

    • @yamikagevg7841
      @yamikagevg7841 4 роки тому +26

      It is a battlefield in a sense

    • @1.4142
      @1.4142 4 роки тому +28

      chess was made to mimick a battlefield

    • @coleton7048
      @coleton7048 4 роки тому +7

      Because that's what chess is...

    • @srilemobitelsrile8809
      @srilemobitelsrile8809 4 роки тому +4

      Pawn takes a kill similar to troops with spear and shield.

    • @giriiyer3968
      @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому +4

      Ask Fischer he treated every game like war anyway

  • @ronne403
    @ronne403 4 роки тому +83

    I feel so satisfied that Morphy can defend his own attack.

  • @obi-wankenobi4056
    @obi-wankenobi4056 4 роки тому +79

    9:57 But what you gonna do? Agad savage 😎

  • @itwasinthispositionerinoag7414
    @itwasinthispositionerinoag7414 4 роки тому +75

    0:00 Hello everyone
    0:02 The Good Stuff
    0:05 0:35 11:17 Morphy Saga
    0:42 All of the videos from the Saga
    0:51 Nakamura Nakamura!
    1:17 Then he has to suffer
    1:56 Never played again
    2:22 Grab another pawn
    3:30 Completely winning
    4:55 Very shaky position
    5:00 Suspicious bishop
    5:07 Double attack
    5:37 Give you a couple of seconds
    5:45 Enjoy the show
    6:32 Not one to be tricked easily
    6:42 En passant
    7:13 Like a madman
    9:30 Threatening... nice ideas!
    9:50 It was in this position
    9:59 Miswrote 'Charles'
    10:20 Nothing more to do

  • @KosmicDoom
    @KosmicDoom 4 роки тому +108

    The Title should have been "Boden Still Doesn't Care"

  • @edwardtang3585
    @edwardtang3585 4 роки тому +217

    Boden did not win the game, but he got his style point. Muy elegante

    • @giriiyer3968
      @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому +8

      Yes well said but I've noticed in many games when his opponents attack they start well but fizzles out morphy somehow wiggles out of it sometimes not so unscathed but when he gets aggressive there is no real defence and he usually sees it to the end that's why he is the goat

    • @giriiyer3968
      @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому

      Yes Boden is stylish

    • @Tomeq79
      @Tomeq79 4 роки тому +1

      @@giriiyer3968 bjjmk

  • @DeepakSharma-ue3pn
    @DeepakSharma-ue3pn 4 роки тому +254

    Morphy doesn't play Morphy's defence

    • @giriiyer3968
      @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому +3

      Is it defence or defense

    • @nephilimrephaim3949
      @nephilimrephaim3949 4 роки тому +25

      In america=defense
      In britain=defence

    • @merhy5509
      @merhy5509 4 роки тому +1

      lol nice

    • @giriiyer3968
      @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому +1

      @@nephilimrephaim3949 thks I know one is verb and one adj. But am not sure about the usage

    • @Icyhotboo
      @Icyhotboo 4 роки тому +1

      @@nephilimrephaim3949 America=favorite----UK=favourite----as a boy traveling back n forth it did get confusing:)

  • @ghostenthusiast7792
    @ghostenthusiast7792 4 роки тому +23

    The Genius of Morphy’s astounds me , he played in defense for the entirety of the game and consumed Boden letting him left for dead , stranded into a mating net without needing to be attacking once

  • @prashil1512
    @prashil1512 4 роки тому +201

    Legend has it that boden still doesn't care.

  • @fatfighterxDDD
    @fatfighterxDDD 4 роки тому +150

    I misswrote charles...but WHAT U GONNA DO, UM???

  • @Durian_Defense
    @Durian_Defense 4 роки тому +32

    That's the way to lose valiantly, against a great player like Morphy, going out with all guns blazing....until the gun runs out of bullets.

  • @sleepingdog12
    @sleepingdog12 4 роки тому +394

    Morphy does not go for Morphy defense 😂😂

  • @arunrai3609
    @arunrai3609 4 роки тому +28

    You know Morphy was a boss when he wins even without giving a single check! 😀😄

  • @i_love_god10
    @i_love_god10 4 роки тому +142

    (Alert- spoiler included)
    Title: Attacking like a mad man
    Game: Whole game was full of the juicy description of the attack
    Me: Waiting for the attacker to give a final touch and win the game
    Result: Attacker resigned the game in the middle just because there is nothing more to continue the attack
    Me (after the result): :-| :-|

    • @thinboxdictator6720
      @thinboxdictator6720 4 роки тому +6

      that happens when you sac so much material for an attack

    • @PushkarChintaluri
      @PushkarChintaluri 4 роки тому +3

      that cause of resignation says a lot about chess from that time.

  • @sahas01
    @sahas01 4 роки тому +105

    *Live stream ends*
    Agadmator: Hello Everyone!

  • @stephenkristianto5554
    @stephenkristianto5554 4 роки тому +38

    "I don't care" -Samuel Standidge Boden

  • @hgrowling
    @hgrowling 4 роки тому +32

    10:00
    He can laugh, guys ! HE CAN LAUGH !!!!!!

  • @theshch5932
    @theshch5932 4 роки тому +21

    10:03 'but i mean.. what you're gonna do' ;D

  • @tyrannosauruszeppelin2205
    @tyrannosauruszeppelin2205 4 роки тому +28

    Yeah! the morphy saga is back haha! best thing ever. making a tsunami of tears of happiness

  • @tizianotiziani1490
    @tizianotiziani1490 4 роки тому +15

    1:16 "he has to suffer, but it's very interesting... because it's Morphy "
    True statement🤣🤣

  • @Grandpa_Moses
    @Grandpa_Moses 4 роки тому

    I know you've heard this before but you are the absolute best presenter of chess on youtube. Great prefacing, history, analysis and your pup in the background usually provides some good antics and laughter. Thank you so much for doing what you do Antonio!

  • @livelovemusic1915
    @livelovemusic1915 4 роки тому +42

    5:00
    Agad: Bishop to d2
    Queen: Am I a joke to you?

    • @souravkalal3831
      @souravkalal3831 4 роки тому +1

      Lol he did said bishop instead of queen 😂😂i noticed after reading ur message..

    • @kunal1957
      @kunal1957 4 роки тому

      "sorry about that"

    • @Mantafirefly
      @Mantafirefly 4 роки тому +3

      Nah, it's the new piece in the game, the Quishop. It can move like a Queen OR a Bishop when you move it. Honestly I think it's pretty overpowered.

  • @Joelk76
    @Joelk76 4 роки тому +1

    Finally the morphy saga. Thank you and continue flowingly

  • @panda4247
    @panda4247 4 роки тому +5

    "We've only just started. there are like 28 videos" lol! Legend!

  • @jmurray2018
    @jmurray2018 4 роки тому

    Yay at last been waiting for ages for you to continue this saga

  • @vaughnraley6659
    @vaughnraley6659 4 роки тому

    I love your videos. After a long day at work, it is nice to relax with some deep thought out strategies. Thanks mate!

  • @dirkdil8268
    @dirkdil8268 4 роки тому

    Missed the live stream... nice to get the the recap!

  • @kinghayden7218
    @kinghayden7218 4 роки тому

    I have been waiting so long to be welcomed back to the good stuff. Great work agad!

  • @bhavyasrivastava1889
    @bhavyasrivastava1889 4 роки тому +1

    Agadmator is my favourite UA-camr! I can't say this enough but his videos are the some of the only things keeping me going during these hard times

  • @BL4CKT4FFY
    @BL4CKT4FFY 4 роки тому

    ahhh i've been waiting for weeks to get back to the morphy saga. thank you ::)

  • @vinacenzobrascon1207
    @vinacenzobrascon1207 4 роки тому +17

    Moral of the story : when you attack like a mad man you'll lose like a mad man

  • @giriiyer3968
    @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому

    By the time you end the saga believe me it will run into millions that's how big Morphy is on UA-cam and of course your presentation simply fantastic

  • @JeremyKing-el4rf
    @JeremyKing-el4rf 4 роки тому

    Hey man, I love your channel, and that pic from your pod cast is awesome! I remember seeing that bit on the Simpsons back in the day and it just struck me laughter. Thanks for that!

  • @DAMFOREIGNER
    @DAMFOREIGNER 4 роки тому

    excellent video, as always

  • @arpanbordia4741
    @arpanbordia4741 4 роки тому +53

    2 Am
    No One:
    Me: Need Some HELLO EVERYONE STUFF!!

  • @ketan6182
    @ketan6182 4 роки тому +75

    "I just realised I miswrote Charles"
    *Nervous laughter*

    • @thegorn
      @thegorn 4 роки тому +2

      Needed "sorry bout that"

    • @NavinBetamax
      @NavinBetamax 4 роки тому

      ..." ....also. !

    • @seedyoda5714
      @seedyoda5714 3 роки тому

      "But, okay, what are you going to do"

  • @HolySoliDeoGloria
    @HolySoliDeoGloria 4 роки тому +4

    6:40 Why not 16 Bxd5 instead of exd6 (e.p.)?

    • @johnwamsley1896
      @johnwamsley1896 4 роки тому

      I don't know, but I do see that pawn take begins to clear the e file for the white rook. In fact white has a nasty discovery by moving the knight with check.

    • @mysteryGuySaysHi
      @mysteryGuySaysHi 4 роки тому

      En passant advances the pawn to 6th rank and bishop can cut the diagonal all the way to the king

  • @schwebor
    @schwebor 4 роки тому

    I have been waiting for this :)

  • @devanshusangwan9295
    @devanshusangwan9295 4 роки тому +3

    9:58 but what are you gonna do

  • @tonimarusic7443
    @tonimarusic7443 4 роки тому

    Finaly the good stuff is back. I liked all those online tournaments. But this.... this i love

  • @khattab5351
    @khattab5351 4 роки тому +5

    5:01
    ah yes , the bishop is always best to move vertically first , finally someone gets it

  • @wyattclough6204
    @wyattclough6204 3 роки тому +2

    Great game. Props to Boden- few players of those times could hold their own against Morphy while mounting such an ambitious, stylish attack.

  • @nekosalad8308
    @nekosalad8308 4 роки тому +3

    7:41 murphy was such a badass he attacked his own pieces with Boden's pieces just to show him he cant do anything.

  • @acts2211
    @acts2211 4 роки тому

    Welcome back to the good stuff one of my favorite phrases

  • @mhkubaid
    @mhkubaid 4 роки тому

    9:59 "... I miswrote Charles... what YOU gonna do?" 😂😂

  • @plainwhiteM
    @plainwhiteM 4 роки тому +1

    @8:44 , what if after a queen trade Samuel played pawn e7?

  • @gonzalo4658
    @gonzalo4658 4 роки тому +4

    Morphy was like “I am the one and only one”

  • @news_n.k8253
    @news_n.k8253 3 роки тому

    At 6:54 queen to D7 is also under attack by knight so what the point knight can still gets queen if he checks king at F6

  • @wbluthier
    @wbluthier 4 роки тому

    Hi adgamator thank you so much for your videos. Question: min -7:08 boden missed winning a piece; he could have taken the knight with black bishop and after queen takes bishop, the other knight in d5 is unprotected. Am i right? Greetings from Argentina.

  • @schwindsichtigaderechte5293
    @schwindsichtigaderechte5293 4 роки тому

    9:38 What if Qg6+? Is there anything useful after that move? I doubt I can calculate the continuation on that correctly.

  • @giriiyer3968
    @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому

    Finally after a long wait I'm so happy today to be back

  • @driesketels
    @driesketels 3 роки тому

    5:53 What about instead of attacking with white queen to H6 first capture with pawn on F6... Now the black queen is hanging and needs to retreatto D8 And then you bring white queen over to H6 now you immediately threaten checkmate on the G7 square and black has to sacrifice his queen to defend by capturing the pon on F6... And then you have one more queen then black and you are completely winning... ???
    Am I missing something?

    • @driesketels
      @driesketels 3 роки тому

      I mean this would've won the game for Boden right?

  • @danielreed540
    @danielreed540 4 роки тому

    I'm glad the Morphy saga resumed & continues! I kept checking for more videos back in April, & after a few weeks gave up, wondering if the saga/series was done. Then recently found the Morphy saga resumed & continues! I hope will continue until Morphy's last known games. Maybe even a last game that is not very significant, , just what the last ones were. & possibly include briefly what happened in Morphy's life after his last chess game? A brief wrap up biography up to the end of Morphy's life?
    Did Morphy contribute anything else to chess, such as books, writings, articles, or tutoring/training?
    Are there any Morphy honors or organizations, like prizes?
    Just some suggestions or ideas for more info to include about Morphy. Agad, you have done a lot of research that shows in the extra info you have included in the videos & the text descriptions/info. Well done.

  • @pelimies1818
    @pelimies1818 4 роки тому +2

    Super interesting game.
    Nice to see Morphy’s response to all-out-assault.

  • @eliezerferrieri
    @eliezerferrieri 3 роки тому

    Hello Friend beautiful game with excellent commentary. A curiosity you have the date of July 9th I can know where you got this information since I have not found the date of this game in any book, thanks.

  • @almscurium
    @almscurium 4 роки тому +5

    Ah yes, the classic Morphy vs Morphy during the Morphy Saga

  • @sangeetajain5625
    @sangeetajain5625 4 роки тому

    Hi everyone, I wanted to join yesterday's medo arena but since agadmator did not do a video on Thursday I couldn't find the link to the tournament. can someone tell me where the link was and how to join future tournaments.

  • @weakbrainthrombosis
    @weakbrainthrombosis 4 роки тому

    I’m glad we are back to Morpy videos.

  • @mugtaba9370
    @mugtaba9370 4 роки тому

    Finally !! We are back for the good stuff !!

  • @nadirgueddouh9905
    @nadirgueddouh9905 4 роки тому +6

    ooh my god !!! how could Morphy survive that attack? what kind of deffense was that he just showed. I thought his opponent's moves were so powerful. Can someone explain to me what just happened please ?

    • @sebastianxxx3351
      @sebastianxxx3351 2 роки тому

      I guess if Boden played it better and used his chances he would‘ve won. But not sure

  • @Puppetmaster939
    @Puppetmaster939 4 роки тому

    Can someone explain how when black moved his pawn to B5, white captured on E6? The pawns weren’t diagonally so am I missing something?

  • @JB_46
    @JB_46 3 роки тому

    10:27 why does rook g8 not work for white? thx in advance

  • @krisss42
    @krisss42 4 роки тому

    #suggestion for your next podcast, agad. It might be that some people have said this, but I wish the podcast could be more fun and relaxed.
    Just take a look at some podcasts inviting business leaders and CEOs. They might talk about chess, but their conversations are really fun ans relaxed.
    You might ask nakamura for things outside chess, or ask him to review some funny games/blunders. His stories with other chess players (especially Magnus).
    I really hope it'll work well and fun!

  • @antonywinslet8406
    @antonywinslet8406 4 роки тому

    bishop f6 at 6:32, instead of leaving the piece undefended, how will black react?

  • @arvind143100
    @arvind143100 4 роки тому

    Hi, Antoni, Plz upload this week Friday Arena 🙏🙏🙏

  • @kingma4987
    @kingma4987 4 роки тому

    Can someone explain to me what happened at 6.41? Like how did the white pawn capture the black pawn but moved to d6 when the black pawn was at 5??And yes I am new to chess so I dont really understand please help.

  • @Kunsoo1024
    @Kunsoo1024 4 роки тому

    Request - would love to see you analyze some of the New York 1924 international tournament - particularly Reti's win over Capablanca.

  • @RT-hh3vl
    @RT-hh3vl 4 роки тому

    Hi Antonio, any chance one day of a game involving my preferred (but unpopular) opening the (Jacques) Mieses opening? Many thanks for these fab vids

  • @krushgroovin7513
    @krushgroovin7513 4 роки тому

    How can you not enjoy a game like this?! Cheers Aggy!

  • @PhDFlopping
    @PhDFlopping 4 роки тому +14

    Wonder how strong Morphy could be in today’s game if he was this good without engines or modern tactics and theory

    • @giriiyer3968
      @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому +3

      That's exactly the point I've making since I started watching morphy over a year ago the reason why I consider him the goat

    • @tommonk7651
      @tommonk7651 4 роки тому +3

      Morphy was just an unbelievably good intuitive player.

    • @giriiyer3968
      @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому +1

      @@tommonk7651 yes the word intuitive you used accurately fits Morphy but there's a difference intuition is the ability to see the connection but qualitatively but genius is the ability to formulate an equation quantitatively you see people use permutation and combination roughly for small numbers but it took a Newtown to get it with binomial theorem you see now but still I believe Morphy was a genius he had the game worked out in his head from move four onwards how I want to get into his head

    • @tommonk7651
      @tommonk7651 4 роки тому +2

      @@giriiyer3968 He's probably my favorite player. The only regret is that he did not play more. If only his father hadn't discouraged him.... He led a very sad life after his chess career concluded.

    • @giriiyer3968
      @giriiyer3968 4 роки тому

      @@tommonk7651 yes I know there is a docu on morphy called the life and chess of Morphy by Lucas Anderson I haven't watched it yet but I will one of these days and do you know the difference between morphy and Fischer his family destroyed his game and Morphy but Fischer destroyed himself of course aided and abetted by the chess community both were brilliant though and my number one and two anyway thks for the reply sir

  • @nolooknoko
    @nolooknoko 4 роки тому

    Hey Agadmator - can you do a series on opening theory/lines such as the Berlin defence, Nimzo Indian etc?

  • @ابراهيمالجبوري-خ7ق

    In the position at the 6:00 minute mark. Black and play knight to F5 and this attacks whites queen and breaks the attack. Because on the subsequent move you can push the pawn and defend the knight with the light square bishop.

  • @RulezAPower
    @RulezAPower 4 роки тому

    06:05 Instead of capturing the Knight, it's stronger playing Exf6 with a discovery on the queen and basically unstoppable mate threat.

  • @aintnopresident
    @aintnopresident 4 роки тому

    Thank you, Aggy!

  • @visionworksproductions
    @visionworksproductions 4 роки тому +3

    Wow
    Missed this good staff😊

  • @yumbomarket6093
    @yumbomarket6093 4 роки тому

    Can someone explain to me the moves " 15. Ne4 d5 16. ed6 Qd7 " ?? i can't understand the pawn capture !!

  • @quantad8216
    @quantad8216 4 роки тому +5

    6:44 can someone explain me this please. What just happened?

    • @mysteryGuySaysHi
      @mysteryGuySaysHi 4 роки тому +1

      if Morphy's queen was on E8 and knifht was moved to NF6, it would fork the black King and Queen and also opens up Rook's attack towards Morphy's queen. Morphy will lose his queen as he has to take care of the check from the knight on F6 and Boden would play RxE8

    • @RF_20
      @RF_20 4 роки тому +2

      En passant..please google to know more

    • @squadnft5176
      @squadnft5176 4 роки тому +2

      @@RF_20 Jua-cam.com/video/hdjTbv2n3Zs/v-deo.html

    • @johnwamsley1896
      @johnwamsley1896 4 роки тому +2

      Oh, you mean what does it mean to capture en passant. Just search for "capture en passant". Wikipedia or somebody will explain it very well. But a pawn can't avoid capture by an oncoming pawn by moving 2 spaces instead of 1.

    • @mysteryGuySaysHi
      @mysteryGuySaysHi 4 роки тому +2

      Or did you mean en passant? That's when a pawn advances 2 steps on its first move and adjacent black pawn can now capture it as though the pawn just moved 1 step and is attacking it diagonally, you know how a pawn regularly captures. This can happen only when a pawn is moved 2 steps on its first move, there is an opposite coloured pawn adjacent to the square it just moved to and that pawn immediately captures it. If they play someother move and then want to capture the pawn en passant, they cant

  • @ihzbc
    @ihzbc 4 роки тому +3

    Hello !! Can you do a video of the verry intersting version of the evans gambit of the game pollock vs baird new york 1889 ? Pleaaaaaaaase ! 😁🙏🙏🙏

    • @mysteryGuySaysHi
      @mysteryGuySaysHi 4 роки тому

      Random Guy : Evan's Gambit
      Agadmator : you sob i'm in

    • @ihzbc
      @ihzbc 4 роки тому

      @@mysteryGuySaysHi 🤣🤣🤣

  • @daveberg751
    @daveberg751 4 роки тому

    Hooray for the good stuff!

  • @SenorQuichotte
    @SenorQuichotte 4 роки тому +5

    Morphy uses the Wooden Shield to fight off the Barbarian.

  • @wtfpwnz0red
    @wtfpwnz0red 4 роки тому

    Back to the good stuff!

  • @Adge1738
    @Adge1738 4 роки тому +5

    Agadmator’s dog is the highlight of every video

  • @hansolowe19
    @hansolowe19 4 роки тому

    How does that pawn capture en passant happen? Looks like the pawn didn't capture it at all but it looked like it did. 🤔😐

  • @TheArchitectureNexus
    @TheArchitectureNexus 4 роки тому

    Please what Morphy saga game was it that had the Qxf3 sacrifice, where Lord Antonio replayed the move in slow motion? (the move might have been Qxe3)

  • @ghannawyghannawy9531
    @ghannawyghannawy9531 4 роки тому +1

    6:40
    Why did not Boden capture the pawn d5 by the bishop?

    • @mysteryGuySaysHi
      @mysteryGuySaysHi 4 роки тому

      He could have, still capturing en passant will advance the pawn to 6th rank

    • @hendrikbitzmann8856
      @hendrikbitzmann8856 4 роки тому

      In the next move he wants to move the Knight and open up the attack on the queen with the rook. This only possible with moving the pawn out of the way

  • @RonaldYengwayo
    @RonaldYengwayo 4 роки тому

    Hi Agadmator, will be covering the Clutch Chess Rapid tournament?

  • @develhuntr75
    @develhuntr75 4 роки тому

    any pogchamps tournament coverage?

  • @0marty950
    @0marty950 4 роки тому +8

    finally, THE GOOD STUFF

  • @PP1969GR
    @PP1969GR 4 роки тому +1

    9:27 why not Qxh4?

    • @PushyPawn
      @PushyPawn 4 роки тому

      Because he was setting up checkmate on the next move and that's worth more than a night.

  • @thaddeusojike9250
    @thaddeusojike9250 4 роки тому +2

    Ahhh😌😏. How I've missed the Morphy saga.

  • @TheMarksT
    @TheMarksT 4 роки тому

    Awesome game and D by Morphy! Thx.

  • @fomalhaut123
    @fomalhaut123 4 роки тому +1

    Watches the video expecting Morphy to attack like a madman. Instead survives an all out attack from a madman
    *What a mad lad*

  • @Heinsalu
    @Heinsalu 4 роки тому

    Absolutely awesome 😎

  • @rotoeaszy8179
    @rotoeaszy8179 4 роки тому

    at 6:41 u said the pawn goes to d5 but the white pawn captured it at d6? when it was at d5 not d6

  • @md.robiulislam6690
    @md.robiulislam6690 4 роки тому

    What does it take to play your tournament on lichess?? Only computer, laptop,tablet??? Or phone??
    What about rating

  • @definitelynotgauvry4442
    @definitelynotgauvry4442 4 роки тому +2

    7:40 Morphy playing versus himself

  • @diegogomes515
    @diegogomes515 4 роки тому

    Iam studing the games of Morphy. Your vídeos Help a lot

  • @machineFa8
    @machineFa8 4 роки тому +1

    this is a great saga, love it..

  • @goranlalic8627
    @goranlalic8627 2 роки тому

    Wauuuu...What a turn-around....👏👏👍👍 PERFECT CHOICE