A Fabrication Tool Most People Don't Know Exists... (SWAG Off Road Press Brake)
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- A lot of fabricators (new and old) over look a good press brake as a essential tool. I know I'm someone who should have bought this much sooner! After talking to some new fabricators lately, I realized a lot of folks have never heard of a press brake. I've even met some older craftsmen that haven't seen one before. Now that I finally bought this thing, you are going to see many instances in which this is a very valuable tool to own. In this episode, we will assemble the Swag off road press brake and modify my press to more easily put a bend in flat bar. This is not a sponsored product. Stick around to the end for a bonus video!!!
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Generic rule of thumb for press brakes, the size of the bottom die should be 8X the material thickness. For example, 1/8" thick forms in a minimum 1" die. Plus you should get "gooseneck" punches (or top dies) for even more forming options. At our shop (custom metal fab) we have over 200 punches and dies ranging up to 15' long and bottom die openings up to 10.5" and punches (top dies) up to a radius of 6". Great video btw.
I'm a fabricator from way back, and I've never seen one of these before. Thanks for the teaching moments and the vid!
After watching a ton of your videos over the last few days, I am seeing a trend that makes perfect sense to me:
1. tack
2. verify fit
3. BIG tack
4. lots more little tacks
5. bounce around when running final beads
6.brag about your beautiful welds (I don't/can't do that part yet!)
My first weld:
Crank the voltage as high as it goes and SEND IT til the thermal protection light is lit!
Hey bud i love it.....been a fabricator for 23 years and the arbor press does the job for quik fab!
I’m kind of intermediate welder still 4th year in apprenticeship! Trying to learn more ways to fabricate a wider range of things love the channels keep going mate
Thanks for watching brother 👊
I do not know which came first but the same concept is used in the Philippines for pressing grated coconut. Thumbs up.
I like your work & how you actually take the time to teach people. I'm still pretty green with some fabbing, but, I've been machining for over 30 years... LOL! Trying to build up my tool base at my home garage. Like I said in another comment, I'm building a VW Baja, & need to learn, & do a lot of things I have never done before, which I love! Keep up the good content & I'll keep watching & Learning!
Nice! Your machining skills will translate very will to metal fab. I'm happy to help!
I'm a retired Fitter/Welder and you did an excellent job!!
thanks for taking the time for a concise quick informative video and for not listing every single screw driver, hammer, pliers, correct shoes necessary to complete the job. All of us know how to turn a screw. good job and a useful tool on the cheap
Thank you for the observation and comment! This is exactly how I try to edit my videos. I don't want to show every single step but still include enough that you get the idea. Very happy to see that you received the video in this way!
I fall into the 'new to fab' category, actually I'm returning to it. I'm returning to a lot of the things I did with my dad as a kid, before he passed away. Have to say really enjoy your vids and clear explanations. Reminds me of his down to earth manner. Keep them up!
Thank you man! That's a big compliment!
Press brakes are an awesome tool to have. I work with industrial cnc press brakes. But, a lot of the info you learn in that field does trickle down to the home user, bend deduction will save you a lot of time and effort as it allows you to account for bend radius, flange length and overall
Made brakes like this. Air over hydraulic is great for my tube benders. My breaks & press, manual for me. Great job with this tutorial.
If you add 2 rods that go out the back with a pair of tubes welded to a piece of angle iron, you can build a quick simple back stop for that brake that will let you repeat bends over and over which is great if you are making multiples of something. Also just for squaring the pieces you put in.
If your finger dies are not beveled the same on the front and back, to where the "point" isn't centered on the die, I had that problem and covered that issue in my install video of this bad boy.
Thank you Nate, staying true to form, love your joy!
Thank you for always ensuring that all capabilities are addressed, allowing all to learn. I think we all have experiences in various situtions, but may need to be exposed and or learn differing aspects at different times. Anyways, thank you for allways keeping each subject or situation applicable to all capabilities.
A finger brake is a great tool, you can remove fingers or add fingers for the correct dimensions fabricating a box and matching lid. Any tool like this will be a addition to your shop, beats bending in a vice or cutting a line across thicker materials to make a bend. It will also speed up your work load.
We all have that 1 kids toy that never leaves our shop mines a 12v minnie mouse car. Constantly blowing it off so my daughter can cruise outside while im working. Awesome vid liked and subscribed.
I came from rock crawling jeeps to now racing dirt oval track and fabricating my own chassis's. Love the video and the little finger press brake. That will come in handy big time in the future and putting my press to use on another fabrication process.
Awesome man! Thank you for watching
Hey im a basic entry level guy!! Thanks for these videos.
The reason the bent material isn't 90° even if you did see it at 90° while it was in the press is internal to the material.
Basically, once you release the pressure there's a bit of internal stress that snaps the material back to how it was rolled when it was manufactured into the sheet metal you see and use.
Interesting fact, if you use the same material, the internal stress tends to be a tiny bit different depending on the angle you set it in.
Worked on CNC punch and press for a while, sheet orientation actually mattered to some of the thinner materials we used, but only in rather precise work.
Other than that, I'd probably switch out the backstop for two threaded rods with bars that have sliding support arms on them, where each arm is on it's own threaded rod. That way you can have the backstop which you can regulate and also have the option to angle your workpiece in the press.
Gives you an easy way to regulate just where the bend will be on the workpiece and in smaller workpieces it can allow you to have two different bends ready next to each other.
Like the bonus video at the end, I’m sure your already planning on it but don’t forget to throw in some nice wheeling videos. Watching projects get built and then not seeing a good payoff sucks. I don’t know about others but I enjoy watching both.
I definitely will be making more offroad videos! Its tough to balance shop time with offroad time 🤘
"Newbie" here, just doing my own thing in my driveway/street, unfortunately no shop to work in or to have space for all the cool tools, everything I do have is "mobile" so I can store it somewhere in the garage and use it out front somewhere....
Watching you pull your air hose across the shop made me think of a fix for having to do that.
PEX lines for water and air lines. There are fittings that allow you to install outlets all around your work area to put air and water where you want them. I personally prefer 3/4" lines for volume. Just like plumbing a house for water, these lines are meant to go where you need them. And, unlike PVC or steel lines, you can actually cut this material with a razor knife or PVC cutter. There are TEES, 90's, crosses, and even multiple outlet manifolds for places like a workbench where you may need more that one outlet.
I just ordered my swag finger brake, but yea i got the press about 2 weeks ago... used it one time with the stupid manual jack and that's all it took... immediately went back to HF and got the $140.00 pneumatic 20 ton jack. i'm just too impatient to pump that fkn thing manually. it moves like 1/8" per pump anyways, it's SLOOOOW. It's super nice with air control!
Made mine from scrap tooling that broke over the years Large Press Brake die. You will just love it.
SWAG stuff is awesome! My buddy has a SWAG porta band jig thing that basically turns his porta band into mini band saw
Weve been using the first gen for 5 or 6 yrs now.
They rock, just make sure youre in the middle.
Nice video. What I don't like with the SWAG press break are the guide pin's on both sides blocking the full 22" width of the press break. Also the ring which holds onto the ram should be longer with 2 bolts this way you no longer need a return springs on the press break since the springs from the press itself will lift those with ease.
Some grease on the guide rods may help prolong the life, and help reduce likelihood of binding when bending off-center
Grease offroad or on farms hold dust. Dust = abrasives. I recommend graphite.
If you find you are cracking your aluminum plate in the bend, you can put a piece of thin leather or heat shrink tubing in under the die to soften the bend radius. Will save a lot of frustration. I have some bulk rolls of 3 inch heat shrink tubing so that's what I use. I build a lot of stuff with aircraft aluminum and it does not like to make sharp bends.
Great video again. Very informative for just learning fabricator's. Thank you
I have watched this video half a dozen times and said screw it and went ahead and bought the finger brake. I bought an air over hydraulic jack on Amazon, not Harbor Freight. Can't wait to weld it up and start using it.
Don't yet own a press. Never used one. Watched anyway. Learned a few things. Keep up the great content.
Bonus?!? Send it!!! 👊👍👏
Nate I had no idea you had your own channel. Your videos are some of my favorites over on Bleepin Jeep. I always enjoy it when content creators work cross channel. I'll continue to enjoy your work on BJ, and if Matt, or any of the other guys are out your way don't be afraid to bring them on screen here as well.
I'm glad you found me! I left bleepinJeep about 2 months ago and decided to start my own channel. I wanted to build my own identity and so far it has been really fun! Thanks for watching!
I got one of these in mini bending break 4in long for building small model parts 👍so cool seeing one real world one scale .
Very cool vid - excellent production value. Love how you do the smooth time lapses with music. That’s the formula man you got it!
Thanks brother, I really appreciate it! 👊
I like the bonus feature. Keep doing that if you can. It reminds us of why we spend $$ and time on our vehicles Thanks
I definitely want to! I need to get more offroad footage. Once the tj stretch is done I'll be hitting the trails alot more often 🤘
Thumbs up for explaining finger brake !
Thanks buddy 🤘
With the single point ram how do you keep the bend consistent? I would think the top die would tend to come down uneven. This is a problem even with industrial press brakes and requires screw balancers .
Very good video, And I really enjoyed the bonus Footage of you in your rig walking over huge boulders
Thank you! I need to get my Jeep back onto some boulders again soon 👍
That was a cool brake build, I am now gonna build a shop to put a brake in it. I hate welding all my crap outside and then cleaning up every day.
Damn You!!! Now I gotta have one of those breaks for my press,LOL . I already have the air over oil ram, so why not?
Thanks, always love your vids.
Lol sorry man! Your going to love it. Thanks for watching
Damn! That jeep is a mountain goat! Nice job!
Thank you!
Just a heads up. With purpose built tools, we never go pess than 5 times the material thickness. For example 3/16 material shouldn't be bent in a tool with an opening less than 1 inch. Not impossible, but dangerous and will require more force to bend a small radius.
A good way to minimize warping is by pre-heating - hot enough to fry an egg.
Retired Boilermaker here. Love your shop and your utilization of it. I'm a home hobbiest/project type guy. Really into hot rodding and REALLY into motorcycles but love off road too. Great vehicles to fabricate on. I've built a nice deck for a former chassis mount motor home to haul a car for a friend. A Meyers Manx type VW based dune buggy, trailers etc. Designing and fabbing shop equipment is a favorite of mine. Honestly i have been scouting around You Tube for someone like you for awhile now. So much more interesting than another review of another Harbor Freight cheap wire feed. I can just see there will be a lot of good stuff on your channel. Subscribed. I believe this is the first fabrication channel i have hit subscribed on. Love that press brake. Looking forward to seeing more from your channel. I'd run a structural steel shop for the owner the last 10 years i worked and have thought about producing video's with an emphasis on heat straightening, annealing, common sense in metal fab but so far i'm just dreaming and starting to compile more tools and equipment. Anyway, promising looking content here.
This thing is definitely on my wish list.
Two important things to note here guys -
Make sure you have arbor plates supporting all the way across under the bottom die. One plate on each side with a gap in the middle as shown in the video will eventually cause that bottom die to warp, then it won't sit flat and you'll need a 50+ ton press to straighten it back out. Swag recommends that it be fully supported underneath.
Also don't forget your safety glasses when forming metal, never know what could come flying out...especially of a HF press!
These Swag brakes are great - love mine!
Thanks for another great vid Nate!
That's why I'm glad I got a 10ft break for doing things like this. Perks of being in the restaurant hood business
At the (industry standard) charge you can afford it.....I should be doing your job if I ever wish to build my Jeep. At what my boss charges for the 3 (6', 7' and 11') hoods we have...I would be very happy.
Looks good. I liked the ram upgrade. Now youll have to plum air over there in the shop. It can be a pain but i dont have the welder limits like you. I have a generac 7500 and a hobart 190 mig. Wherever i can wheel the generator i can weld 30ft from it. When i buy a house hopefully next year i will be wired up but still have the portability
recently bought a small transfer pump from Harbor Freight that came
with new o-rings, vanes, and a set of brushes for the motor.
Nate you the Man . Wish you could come help me with mine . I hit a dead end after my 2nd stroke . Just Roll With It .
Nate. Love the videos. The quality and content really stand out. Thanks for the effort!!!
Thank you for support! I appreciate the positive comment!
Awesome upgrade
Neat Box Brake. Nice welds, but you might want to run back on the stops to avoid crater cracks and porosity.
My next purchase from SWAG. They make so much good stuff!
Really cool men , learning a lot with your videos 👍🏼
You all might like National Liftgate Parts. All kinds of 12 volt hydraulic pumps, vales etc. Also snow plow motors. Commercial truck stuff. Sorry I couldn't get a link on here with my iPad.
If you haven't already,buy some 1/2" or 3/4 copper pipe to that press. Run on the ceiling. A shop needs air drops everywhere!
Why did you weld your top die off center with the support tubes???
Great video as always, but you definitely want to full-weld those edges to avoid uneaven distortion of that angle die over time.
Anything is better than a manual pump on a press, was wondering if the air over hydraulic jack would actually fit and work well. !!
Great demo.
Thanks! It's a huge upgrade!
I got some spare orings with my jack as well.
The angle finder would be a lot nicer with a magnet
cool video
I bought one a month ago. it works great. no more heating metal and bending it over the side of the table. that's just a fuck around.
I'ne seen spares sent with plenty of tools . but never from a discount hydraulic jack .. Nice touch? .. I have a medium size hydraulic jack I've used the crap outa for 20 years .. and it hasn't needed spares yet! :)
Nothing is stopping that jeep at the ending.
This is my next project. Thanks
No problem!
I note your manual pump jack has not been retro'd with an automotive power steering pump.
I see one in my future. It will save trips to town to have plate bent.
My rivet gun came with spare parts - here's hopin'!
These videos are great!! We definitely need nore videos of that beast of a tj ya got🤙🏼
Thanks man! I'll have more wheeling videos in the coming months. I need to finish stretching this beast first 🤘
@@DirtLifestyle that's super rad! I've been loving your fabrication videos! I've always just welded stuff around the ranch to fix it but after watching your videos I wanna start fabricating stuff for the jeep yj I'm picking up here soon! Thanks for all the great content!
Great video for us shade tree garage fabricators! Will subscribe
Thank you!
Wow, reversed baseball cap - never seen that before, its really cool !
same with the forearm half sleeve.. so original!!
Maybe one day I will get one. You planted a thought...................I have a small shop in my basement. I have a small cnc plasma cutter and I do metal art.
does the plasma cutter make a lot of smoke down there?
Thought it was shit cause you had to do fab work, then i checked out pricing and i can see why its like that.
Question is can you get it water jet cut for same price (No unless you have access to one and trade price materials).
Spare parts with a jack not a good sign of things to come, i personally don't buy new jacks they are typically quite crap and use O rings not mechanical seals unless paying big $$ for commercial quality. I will take one of my restored jacks any day of the week.
Keep up the videos i do enjoy them
I want this stuff but I need an extra garage to put it all in! ;)
Lol
these are great for making boxed covers.
You have plenty of ceiling height to put a cable under 2 post lift, and they are not all that expensive for the Atlas brand. You only need 11+ feet and a 220v breaker.
Nice welding Job👍👍👍
Thanks! 👍
...bonus video... not knocking Bleepin' (I'm still a fan of both you and them) but you might want to keep things separate. (windsheld banner) Just a suggestion.
I thought about this. It's an old video so I didn't have alot of options but still thought it would be cool to share 👍 thanks for watching man!
Never is a press break but I’ve bent a lot of metal (28 years as an aircraft mechanic mostly in sheet metal) you will need to over bend to over come spring back. All metal will have it to a varying degree.
Waiting to see what you do with the cj5. I have a 57 myself always looking for the next upgrade.
I've bought many tools, especially HF, that came with spare parts. Sadly, by the time the parts are needed, I can never find them!
Lol that's what I'm thinking with this kit! Hopefully I never need the seals because finding them in 10 years won't be possible
Its a good idea to store your spare parts with instruction manuals to cabinet and maybe put them into labeled folders. Sure its pain but if you end up selling the tool new owner will thank you for saving the spare parts and specially the manuals in top condition. For instance i would love to have original manual of my motorbike, but it has been lost and not even importer have electric plans and explosion pictures that should been on the manual. Too old model they say.. Now i need just to swing it and use logic to figure the wire hell to get it working again.
Love the "injury level" fabricator comment! Been there years ago... pain sucks.
🤘
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Just make sure the bend is centered under the ram, or it'll binright away.
Roughly 8x material thickness is v size mate 👍
You should do a video of how you have your shop set up
I've been getting asked for this for a while lol. I definitely should put something together soon! Thanks man 👍
just bought one. thanks for the video on it!
No problem! I hope it helps!
Doing good Pickle. Keep it up.
Lol thanks brother 🤘
i wonder what you offroad with lmao
some of the guys using this break have a problem getting an even bend across the width because of the ram being in the middle. Do you have this problem or did you do something to fix that?
I saw a vid that showed a header welded to top to stiffen. I'm looking for same info
Air over hydraulic cylinder works the best
Makes me want to get one, I made my own and has got the job done but not fancy or perfect.
I want the 50” very good tool though I got the same one you have. I used it to bend my intake out on my GTO.
Damn you made the Alder rocks look easy haha, I posted a few clips of mine from memorial weekend, they’re a mess right now, lots of big holes, def didn’t walk up like that. Keep up the great work man, hope to catch you out on the trail sometime 🤙
Lol it was a good line, I got lucky. I'm planning on doing some kind of meet and greet towards the end of summer 🤘
My HF air rivet gun came with EVERYTHING to rebuild it.
As did my 1995-ish brad gun. Brad gun still works almost 25 years and thousands of brads later but I’ve long lost track of the rebuild kit.
Nice neat welds!
Lol thanks brother!
Great video 👍