Just ignore the comments from the armchair experts, it's a useful beginners video and we all knew nothing before someone showed us how. Good video informative, clear, concise and no irritating music.
I quite agree, I'm a 76 year old beginner and learn a lot from videos like these. It might be obvious to experienced turners but not to me! Thank you 👍
I am fairly new to wood turning and am planning on starting on bowls. Thanks for sharing this! It has been really helpful for me to wrap my head around the process.
Been doing this for years. For 2 turn end grain you left about 2x the material thickness required for that size. End grain doesn't move as much as face grain. An alternative to sealing, and the mess that comes with it, is to put the piece in a kraft/grocery paper bag which serves as the vapor barrier.
I found the video informative. I’m a beginner so when it popped up I was interested. Not sure of all the snarky comments. 😮 I appreciate you making the video and narrating your steps. 🎉
Ditto for putting in a grocery (kraft paper) bag. For a 3" box, I leave walls about .5 inch. I use sealer only on apple (sometimes) , which moves a lot when drying. Cherry and maple seldom crack
1. From what I could see, most if not all of the wood removal was by scrapping. A cutting action by rubbing the bevel would give cleaner surfaces and the cutting edge of the tool would last longer. 2. When drying, I seldom use sealer, just put it in a paper bag or cardboard box with shavings and seal it up. This allows the moisture to slowly escape and minimizes cracking. Also your climate and altitude makes a big difference in the drying time.
I don't tend to make boxes... but want to add them to my product line. I work with mostly all green wood. What you do here is what I do with bowl blanks. Good to know the process is the same. (Oh... I always brown bag the bowls, write the date and what's inside)
I never cease to be amazed that demonstrators/video makers show so much time turning the initial block to round. Why not use your bandsaw to take the 4corners off ? I do & sometimes can make use of the off-cuts too! Your video would be shorter too!
You can use those corner cut-offs to make exotic-wood fridge magnets. You can make a nice fridge magnet out of a wood cube that is just 1 x 1 x 1 inch.
@@jeffjames1567 My experience/point exactly! Why make shavings to clean up when the off cuts are useable. There are lots of videos of bits of wood with resin made into interesting objects too- not my thing - each to their own- but another possibility.
You are turning much too low on the blank. Try raising your toolrest so your tool meets the wood at around 10 o'clock and you will get more of a peeling cut rather than a scraping action, especially when roughing down. Look at the wood coming off the tool. You should be getting shavings not dust.
Nice video, I am hoping you will do the follow up on this after it drys. Do you have a moisture meter? if so maybe you could read the levels now and then again right before the final turning for reference. Either that or weigh it now and then again before the final. I would love to see the results with this technique applied. Definitely a great idea, I twice turn bowls quite often but never a box. I don't know why it never dawned on me to do so. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it. I already made a note attached this one while it dries to remind me to do a video when i finish it. I prefer a scale over a moisture meter. In a couple months i will weigh it a couple times a week until it does not lose any weight.
Great job clarifying what and where and why. Question, the engrain sealer, could you not do the same thing using bee's wax or that spray one stuff you use on trees where you cut a branch off off work to keep it from cracking and still let it dry?
I never used Pentacryl but not a fan of using chemicals that just displace the water. You can use denatured alcohol to do the same thing. The box was finish turned you can see the video here ua-cam.com/video/LpnBiHig7XY/v-deo.html Thanks for watching.
I left my chuck key in the chuck one time, and, like a fool, turned the lathe on. The chuck key dropped into the shavings at my feet. Never did that again!
Much better than having it launch vertically. 50 years ago my shop teacher would have cracked you in the back of head if you left the key or spanner on the chuck
I have plenty of larger jaws this box was only 4 to 5 inches in diameter. 50 mm jaws are plenty large enough for that size turning. Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
I always round over my edges since a sharp edge is more prone to cracking than a rounded over one. Also, end grain/long grain tends to not warp as much as side grain like bowls. You could have made it thinner.
quicker and easier, but I'd rather put in the time and skill to make a box with the wood grain matched up from the bottom to the lid. Have you tried microwave drying - hours rather than days weeks and months.
Not sure of the exact speed but defiantly 500 rpms or less at the start. I recommend turning at a speed you feel comfortable at. If you use sharp tools and adjust your feed rate you can achieve the same clean cuts at any speed. All higher rpm's will do is allow you to finish a cut faster by speeding up how fast you move to tool over the tool rest.
i hope you measure twise and cut once ,because that looks more like 1" then 1"1/4, "theres no need to apply it on the inside " but yet you sealed the inside of the lid
The lid was sealed on both end grain sides because its a 1 1/4 inch thick disc. The inside of the hole does not need to be because just the fact of it being a deep hole slows down the moisture loss. I will eventually take the lid off once the box dries some. I do the same for rough turned hollow forms with small openings and have a good success rate drying them. I see I missed around an inch with the scraper but that should not be an issue.
Just ignore the comments from the armchair experts, it's a useful beginners video and we all knew nothing before someone showed us how. Good video informative, clear, concise and no irritating music.
Thank you for the kind words
I quite agree, I'm a 76 year old beginner and learn a lot from videos like these. It might be obvious to experienced turners but not to me! Thank you 👍
For me this is very interesting
Ditto...love no music, clear details, turner 2 years..only at workshop class
Thank you for making informative videos despite the negativity. New turners like me appreciate it.
Why so many trolls here. Rather than rip the guy up from the shadows, do a video yourself and show us how awesome you are!
Thank you
As a beginner, I appreciated this video.
Richard Raffin has been doing this for decades. Great idea.
I am fairly new to wood turning and am planning on starting on bowls. Thanks for sharing this! It has been really helpful for me to wrap my head around the process.
Glad it was helpful!
Just finished your Bear killer for me. I am newish to turning and always need to see or find this one Idea!! Great
Been doing this for years. For 2 turn end grain you left about 2x the material thickness required for that size. End grain doesn't move as much as face grain. An alternative to sealing, and the mess that comes with it, is to put the piece in a kraft/grocery paper bag which serves as the vapor barrier.
Great video, very instructive; with an instructor who doesn't chew one's ear off with irrelevant chit-chat👍👍👍👍.
Glad it was helpful!
Very helpful. Thanks for taking the time to make this video!
You're very welcome!
I found the video informative. I’m a beginner so when it popped up I was interested. Not sure of all the snarky comments. 😮
I appreciate you making the video and narrating your steps. 🎉
Glad you enjoyed the video and found it helpful.
Ditto for putting in a grocery (kraft paper) bag. For a 3" box, I leave walls about .5 inch. I use sealer only on apple (sometimes) , which moves a lot when drying. Cherry and maple seldom crack
1. From what I could see, most if not all of the wood removal was by scrapping. A cutting action by rubbing the bevel would give cleaner surfaces and the cutting edge of the tool would last longer. 2. When drying, I seldom use sealer, just put it in a paper bag or cardboard box with shavings and seal it up. This allows the moisture to slowly escape and minimizes cracking. Also your climate and altitude makes a big difference in the drying time.
I don't tend to make boxes... but want to add them to my product line. I work with mostly all green wood. What you do here is what I do with bowl blanks. Good to know the process is the same. (Oh... I always brown bag the bowls, write the date and what's inside)
Thank you, so many videos dont show the tool as well as you do, or simple instructions.
You're welcome!
I never cease to be amazed that demonstrators/video makers show so much time turning the initial block to round. Why not use your bandsaw to take the 4corners off ? I do & sometimes can make use of the off-cuts too! Your video would be shorter too!
Hey Dagwood, how do you use the off-cuts? On exotic woods I'll save the cutoffs and make plugs for filling screw holes.
If the original piece was big enough, the cutoffs could be pen blanks.
You can use those corner cut-offs to make exotic-wood fridge magnets. You can make a nice fridge magnet out of a wood cube that is just 1 x 1 x 1 inch.
@@jeffjames1567 My experience/point exactly! Why make shavings to clean up when the off cuts are useable. There are lots of videos of bits of wood with resin made into interesting objects too- not my thing - each to their own- but another possibility.
You are turning much too low on the blank. Try raising your toolrest so your tool meets the wood at around 10 o'clock and you will get more of a peeling cut rather than a scraping action, especially when roughing down. Look at the wood coming off the tool. You should be getting shavings not dust.
Nice video, I am hoping you will do the follow up on this after it drys. Do you have a moisture meter? if so maybe you could read the levels now and then again right before the final turning for reference. Either that or weigh it now and then again before the final. I would love to see the results with this technique applied. Definitely a great idea, I twice turn bowls quite often but never a box. I don't know why it never dawned on me to do so. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed it. I already made a note attached this one while it dries to remind me to do a video when i finish it. I prefer a scale over a moisture meter. In a couple months i will weigh it a couple times a week until it does not lose any weight.
Where do I get the "Artisan Wood Sealer"?
craft supplies sells it. woodturnerscatalog.com/p/45/4032/artisan-Woodsealer
Great video with information that will definitely help me with my next box!
Glad it was helpful!
A very interesting concept of Turing green timber.
Thank you
Great job clarifying what and where and why. Question, the engrain sealer, could you not do the same thing using bee's wax or that spray one stuff you use on trees where you cut a branch off off work to keep it from cracking and still let it dry?
Thank you for your informative video.
Nice job, Never ever leave the chuck key in the chuck. Very dangerous. if the spindle turned on the key would go into your chest!!
You should try rounding your blank with a 5/8” bowl gouge! So much faster than the srg!!
Thank you for your time and effort. I like using Pentacryl for green wood then into a paper bag. Have you got around to finishing it?
I never used Pentacryl but not a fan of using chemicals that just displace the water. You can use denatured alcohol to do the same thing. The box was finish turned you can see the video here ua-cam.com/video/LpnBiHig7XY/v-deo.html Thanks for watching.
Good demo but you broke rule #1. Never leave your chuck key in the chuck.
So aaaa
I left my chuck key in the chuck one time, and, like a fool, turned the lathe on. The chuck key dropped into the shavings at my feet. Never did that again!
Much better than having it launch vertically. 50 years ago my shop teacher would have cracked you in the back of head if you left the key or spanner on the chuck
Informative and appreciated. Thank you for sharing.
You need a bigger 4-jaw chuck and thus a bigger tenon!
Signed,
Armchair Expert
I have plenty of larger jaws this box was only 4 to 5 inches in diameter. 50 mm jaws are plenty large enough for that size turning. Thanks for watching and for the feedback.
great video, straight forward and appreciated
thanks for watching.
I always round over my edges since a sharp edge is more prone to cracking than a rounded over one. Also, end grain/long grain tends to not warp as much as side grain like bowls. You could have made it thinner.
You make a beautiful pieces
Thanks for sharing 🙏
My pleasure 😊
quicker and easier, but I'd rather put in the time and skill to make a box with the wood grain matched up from the bottom to the lid. Have you tried microwave drying - hours rather than days weeks and months.
What speed are you turning at the beginning?
Not sure of the exact speed but defiantly 500 rpms or less at the start. I recommend turning at a speed you feel comfortable at. If you use sharp tools and adjust your feed rate you can achieve the same clean cuts at any speed. All higher rpm's will do is allow you to finish a cut faster by speeding up how fast you move to tool over the tool rest.
Good idea. I’ll use this to speed up drying my salt cellar blanks. Thanks. Subscribed.
It works out great for those. That's what this one will probably become.
Why do you run the tool across the top
Checking to see if it’s round yet.
Running the back of the tool over the top lets you feel if the turning is not round yet. If the tool bounces it still has corners on it.
With all due respect, rough turning is something most turners learn about very early.
How else would you do it?
What about us couch potatoes?
nice job
Thank you! Cheers!
i hope you measure twise and cut once ,because that looks more like 1" then 1"1/4, "theres no need to apply it on the inside " but yet you sealed the inside of the lid
The lid was sealed on both end grain sides because its a 1 1/4 inch thick disc. The inside of the hole does not need to be because just the fact of it being a deep hole slows down the moisture loss. I will eventually take the lid off once the box dries some. I do the same for rough turned hollow forms with small openings and have a good success rate drying them. I see I missed around an inch with the scraper but that should not be an issue.
I never do. That must have been a fluke because I was distracted doing the video.
Always like to watch turning videos but you need to learn to fast forward. This is a 15 minute video that could have been done in 5
You can do that in your settings
You can also speed up the play.
I didn't hear a single word you said.......
Waste of time
Nothing new in this video. 😮💨😮💨
a microwave is far faster
I wish we could see the number of thumbs down.
Why?
So he can see how many downs he received for his little nasty comment 👎👎👎👎
Would it make you feel better
Then we can assess the current status of humanity.