"You haven't read a word of my book, have you?" "I've read.. about it" That just perfectly sums up the horrible state of affairs in modern political discourse...
Im curious what it is about my comment that either of you think indicates I had trouble grasping the concept of the video? Yes, the book is fake. His whole character is an act. The interview is an act. These things are painfully obvious, and I never said anything to suggest I believed otherwise. C'mon guys, Im trying really hard not to say "no shit, Sherlock" but you aren't making it easy.
@Son Goku rich from a prior marriage where she got a great portion of her ex-husbands money upon divorce - i'd bet my bottom dollar. or came from a rich family and never really worked in the first place
Even my mum gets angry when I relay these points, her partner worked 12 hrs a day while she stayed home, it’s hard to change your opinion when it means you have to take personal responsibility
GAGAGAGAGAAGAG this is wonderful! PRANK! It is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. GAGAGAGAG! But I am happy again because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I make cool YT videos with them! Good evening, love and peace, dear sana
lol. Its a comedy sketch. Genuine people and rational view points do not promote social division, and consequently do not get airtime. Look up 'Divide and Conquer' and think how could someone apply its key principles to our society.
Man, I'm starting to get a crush on the feminist. I appreciate standing for something, while not getting carried away into falsehood by the thing you're fighting for.
yeah thats real feminsim right there. and thas fucking sexy. because shes a self possesed, intelligent and strong women. she doesnt need anyone to tell men or her that shes equal shes proving it in everything she does and says and in the way she carries herself.
@Benjamin McCann No this is what feminism used to be. Christina Hoff Sommers is worth reading if you want a model of feminism before it was hijacked by bigots.
Amazing sketch. Clicked the video and thought it would be of some dude "owning some feminazi with facts and logic" but was absolutely pleasantly surprised
But you know thats what the dudes do in those videos. They own feminazis with facts and logic. Because 3rd wave feminism isnt based on logic, its based on victimhood and feelings.
Just a small question, cause I'm not really familiar with the subject. Wasn't third age feminism back in the 80's about various social right like paid maternity and such.
All the this. Feminism is not about equality anymore. I USED to be a feminist, then I opened my eyes and saw that they are currently shitting on all the changes first and second wave feminists fought so hard for. It's disgusting. I'm not a feminist because I believe everyone should have the same oppotunities.
At this point I advise people to say they fight for gender equality, instead of saying they're a feminist. Just drop the term altogether, because you can get away with saying a lot of dumb shit as a feminist (patriarchy, rape culture, etc) but since the only actual gender issue in society is equality, let's just talk about gender equality.
MsChitterchat I’d say the real battle for you is not the people who claim they’re not feminists but the idiots who claim to be feminists and tarnish that label. Good luck to you-
Gredddfe I mean most people already are, for me I really can’t find any government policy that distinguishes sex that majorly cause unfair opportunities in the US. Honestly the only women-related rights I can think of in the US is abortion (which for me I’m pro choice). Of course other countries may need to work on their gender equality. But yeah, I don’t call myself a feminist, that term has been poisoned and I have no motivation to fight for that label.
I think she's written around the book 'Women Vs. Feminism: Why We All Need Liberating from the Gender Wars' by Joanna Williams. Very enlightening book written by Director of the Centre for the Study of Higher Education at the University of Kent. Hope this helps :)
*whispers* "I thought i was interviewing a feminist" I am a feminist! God i think its the first time i heard feminist in an epic empowering manner and ive rooted for it
@erni muja Feminism back then was led by rich women you mean. Women with more power in society than 60% of the population, women or otherwise. Back then only 40% of men had the vote. 100 years earlier, only 1% of men had the vote. These women were the wives and daughters of the men that had had the vote for centuries. And if you are to suggest to me that they did not have the power to sway their husbands and fathers votes. Then you think very little of women. These women had many freedoms to do whatever the hell they wanted. Some women were forced into political marriages, yes. But so were a lot of men. That's about the worst thing that happened to them. Back then having a job meant working 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. In a factory, in a field or some other harsh, demeaning, or otherwise backbreaking job. Or of course you could go die in war as a soldier. The women back then did not want those jobs. And I dare say nobody today want them either. The women that were not the daughters of rich people. Actually much enjoyed the arrangement of men doing labor and the woman taking care of the house. Because women had it better... Have you heard of the anti-feminists? They were equally as many as the feminists. But of course they didn't have the social power, nor the time really to go about complaining. They were poor (according to our standards) and had things to do. In Britain women got the vote in 1918, the same year men got the vote. Men had been fighting for the vote for 150 years at that point. And was given it because of their duty to fight in war. And because of the huge amounts of men that died in WW1 without suffrage. Women got the vote too. Just because... Women joining the work force happened after the laborers had worked for ages to improve working conditions. They had negotiated down the work hours to 8 hours a day and finally the work life balance of the poor was also evening out. The women joining the work force of course upended that. Because now, instead of a family having one man working 40 hour weeks. you had two adults working 40 hour weeks. And the same family didn't even earn any more money than they did before. If it isn't immediately obvious to you, this means you have 40 hours less as a family to spend on taking care of the house and children. If the feminists actually cared about society. They would have negotiated with the government, not only to "let" them into the work force (The government was thrilled about having women in the work force) They would have leveraged their work against bringing the working hours for men even lower.
@erni muja yeah that makes sense, anyine with two braincells would see that women have it as easy or more than man nowadays, their work on that is done so only the dumb ones are left i agree. Hehe see what i did there? "Left" *gets banned from youtube*
@erni muja I guess you havent heard of the suffragets that went around shaming men (that didnt have the vote) into joining the war. While they campaigned for their own vote. Not for the vote of the poor
imo it actually goes along well with her character. as in: her being a confident woman. and therefore not needing to wait for him to ask her out (which obviously is still the way it happens most of the time) but instead decides to go for it herself.
I always liked it when people use that argument. "How could X amount of people be wrong?" where X = a large amount. Now take religion. There's what, 1 billion Muslims? Probably also a billion Christians? Both can't be right. Now we have (at least) 1 billion wrong people.
That is because facts can't be opinion based. You can ask how many people in believe in somethin purely because you want to know what people believe, or how up to date the population is. But what somebody believes changes nothing in facts.
Unfortunately this doesn't apply to the US.And before everyone freaks out it's been proven that women in white collar jobs here make less than a man doing the same job,same thing for our melanin enhanced friends.A prestigious American University sent identical resumes except for gender and race and guess what?Women and brown folks were routinely offered 10-20% less than their identical white male counterparts.American's are encouraged never to talk about how much they make,precisely for this reason.It's illegal here too technically,but that's never stopped a corporation before.The other observations are valid,but don't cover it all here.Maybe the UK's different.
Stephen Cody exactly, except a few points. It's "sort of" illegal to base pay on gender and race, religion, etc but the onus is on YOU the employee to find out and prove it within a short period of time, otherwise, it's Too bad, so sad. That's what the Lilly Ledbetter Act was supposed to fix:"the clock didn't start until you found out. But, on drumpf's obsession of all things Obama, he undid the Ledbetter Act. Also, to add to what you were saying about white collar professionals and the wage gap, there was an additional study about the wage gap in the medical field. Even with EVERY option the same (IE: Same college, same GPA, same title, same field of medicine, same hospital, etc) except gender, men were on average paid around $12,0000 more per year than their female counterparts. A UA-cam channel Healthcare Triage did a great video on it, with all sources linked and provided.
This felt way too much like an actual interview with an admirable author, rather than a satirical comedy sketch for a fake news presenter's UA-cam channel.
Is that considered sexual harassment? It happens to me a lot. I always assumed they were interested in my point of view sometimes and am not automatically offended. 🙁
Olive, I think the joke is that she's an empowered woman who doesn't have an issue being assertive and asking a man out, not that he's a small man. No? I mean, does he have to be a small man and she have to be some kind of dominatrix for that to work?
The book is fake, but I don't think her character is a parody. Yes, it's fictional, but it's also the "serious" voice in the discussion. He's supposed to represent the mainstream narrative and she tears his arguments down with actual facts and logic.
Googled the book and author on the offchance that they were real. Decidedly disappointed to find that they weren't. I guess this is how Pie would have to present these arguments to avoid being called sexist though. Good job Pie.
Wow! I have to say when I clicked play I was expecting something quite different. This is one of the most refreshing, concisely argued cases for true respectful equality ever. Well done! (Middle aged white bloke/feminist)
Awesome. The feminism that actually empowered women was one I could get on board with. This new victim mentality type is actually a downgrade. Make women great again.
Just read "call the midwife" and that certainly will give you a great appreciation for womankind and female heroines who own their own feminine roles. In awe more of my fellow woman now than ever, but not of the ones that act like victims, need lots of attention about little thngs, act like that one time some stupid bloke said something stupid to them ruined their life and damaged them. Those ones let us all down and make us all look silly.
Why would you want that? To empower women? They already have equal rights, sometimes they are even treated better than males. E.g. less time in prison.
I get that it is staged, but as I've not watched Jonathan Pie before, I don't actually get the "comedy"-part? It's a serious topic, and she (the actress) is raising some of the same arguments as fx. Jordan B. Peterson, so where is the comedy?
Christoffer Ravn it's not what she says that's the "funny" bit… it's that an alleged journalist aka "truth reporter" is FLABBERGASTED BY THE TRUTH! It would be like telling a mathematician 2+2 = 4, and them genuinely replying "but I was told it was 22!" Superficial mainstream journalism is what is being lampooned by this comedy sketch, not the serious facts that she speaks.
Jordan Peterson's interview with Cathy Newman was pretty similar. Of course this skit was written so it's more coherent than Jordan Peterson having to bat off stupid accusations and arguments from Cathy Newman but the message is still there.
@@Pranav-rp8wi and what have they done with it ? vote socialist. If it wasn't for women we would not have a democratic party. 80% of democrats are women and the other 20% are weak men that want communism so they wont feel like losers
But in many circumstances, a woman can get the same job as a man and still be paid significantly less. Also, they can't get those jobs usually. About 6.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are female. that's not through lack of effort on their part, I can assure you.
again paying them less is illegal if they get payed less its because they dont work as much hours they dont take extra hours they dont have flexible schedules they are less likely to ask for promotions they are a million and one reasons and sexism isn't one of them as to there only being 6,4% of women in fortune 500 companies most women dont want to dedicate their entire life and any opportunity for family to their job and most women are less assertive then most man
Zaper yes it is illegal and it's still happening. Companies break the law all the time. That's why there are so many lawsuits against them and they are successful too. Also there are plenty of women who are prepared to work just as many if not more hours than men.
ranz0u >"Also there are plenty of women who are prepared to work just as many if not more hours than men." Yeah, but on average, women work less hours than men. >"About 6.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are female. that's not through lack of effort on their part, I can assure you." Women have wombs, they are the ones who take significant time out of the workforce to have babies and breastfeed them. This obviously effects their careers. Men don't need to disrupt their careers like this because they don't have wombs and breasts.
I consider myself lucky in that my wife is very similar. A very intelligent woman who is more interested in facts than made up BS and who gives as good as she gets.
Yeah, the problem was never the 'pay gap' specifically, it was always the underlying issues that foster specific environments and/or systems that promote issues inclined to marginalize or dissuade women from entering the workplace to the same extent as men. So. Basically, what the vid said.
@Mel Christensen That's not actually accurate. All it takes is looking at statistics of which gender does what job in countries like Sweden to see that the opposite is actually the case where the more egalitarian the society is, the sharper the gender divide becomes with regards to which jobs people take. In other words, the more sexist a society is, the more likely you are to see women striving for jobs, careers, and positions that might be viewed as "men's work".
Ha ha, like environments where one has to work hard, sweat, get dirty, lift heavy things, endanger themselves, and so forth. Woman: "I want to be a welder". Instructor: "Okay, take that oxygen tank and put it over there." Woman: "I can't budge it. I'm being marginalized and dissuaded from being a welder in this toxic male environment!"
@@scocassovegetus you see maybe we need to redefine what “work hard” means. Have you ever looked after 3 toddlers for a day, on your own? Tantrums and shitty nappies and having your eyes everywhere in case someone falls off a sofa or shoved their fingers in a plug socket… totally exhausting. So perhaps the way to decrease the “pay gap” is to increase the monetary value we place on so called “women’s work”. In fact Scandinavian countries have done this to quite an extent - e.g. in Finland, teachers (majority female in the UK) are paid the same as doctors and lawyers (majority male in the UK). And when you think about it, why shouldn’t they be? We trust them to guide and program our kids. That’s a pretty important job.
I've been looking for this one for a while, since seeing his interview with Channel 4 (K G-M) and how this particular one helped launch his career. Fascinating to see it played out, even while already aware of the 'twist in the tale'. A very interesting take on what's inarguably a frequent hot and emotive topic.
This a real woman, a real feminist. My wife gets paid more than anyone else she works with other than her manager, by a substantial amount, why? Because she's got a ton of experience, she good at a her job and when we decided to have children, she went back to work after a month and I stayed at home to look after the kids. Best decision ever btw, lmao.
About time all this pc bulshit is called out. Jordon peterson seems to of started a tidle wave of common sense to come back the main stream media is really old and boring now!
"hollow political correctness of the left" Fuck off I'm on the left of centre and I find this piece bang on, not all lefties are retards you know, most of us don't buy this shit at all. Don't paint us all with the same brush.
"denouncing the bigotry of the right and the hollow political correctness of the left!" Smug, inaccurate false equivalence. It doesn't make you somehow enlightened to see through the transparent bullshit of the far left.
Daniel Jones, I'm finding it hard to believe that you're even close to the centre when you get upset over a comment like this. They DIDN'T paint all those on the left with the same brush. The comment didn't say "Of ALL those on the left", only that hollow political correctness is a virus FOUND on the left. And you can't deny that. The commenter was also critical of right but you didn't say "not all righties are bigots you know". Seems like your identifying with a tribe instead of trying to remain neutral.
This needs more views! Incredibly funny and on point but also so sad at the same time. Mainstream media is failing society by pushing these narratives that are predicated on BS. It diverts the political discussion away from the real underlying societal issues that need to be addressed.
Damn this is so good. I love his rants but it’s great to see Pie as the comedy foil to someone else making killer political and social observations. And she’s just brilliant. Although it’s a slightly different animal, this totally reminds me of Partridge at its best.
The world is full of 'people like her'. They are just never allowed to speak, and when they try to, there are protests. ua-cam.com/video/iARHCxAMAO0/v-deo.html
Every feminist I've ever met, including myself, is like her. The 'feminists' that this sketch is making fun of are a minority and the only reason we see them all the time is because they are the type of people to make yt vids about it and so on. The majority of feminists are like the women in this vid.
@@olliekearnon-caister7615 Ah yes, the 'No True Feminist', aka NAFALT. I hate to break it to you, but the ones running the Feminist movement, the ones writing the text books, the ones teaching at universities, are nothing like her. Women live longer, have the safest jobs, are the majority of university students, get the majority of government funding, commit 45% (roughly) of the crimes, and are 5% of the prison population, have enforced quotas for many jobs, get paid more for the same work, are the lest likely to be victims of all forms of violent crime, AND call themselves 'oppressed'. If Feminists wanted equality, they would be acting like MRAs.
I really like J Pie who’s got more honesty and real journalism than the entire western mediasphere combined. Despite I disagree with Pie’s politics plenty of times.
“We can’t use any of this, this isn’t the narrative” - never a more accurate statement on modern life
Sounds like CNN
@@markios6824 Or the BBC
Happy Chappers haha yes I completely forgot about those fkers
@@markios6824 any mainstream media to be fair. Everyone has a narrative they want to promote.
Thomas Ball it's not even funny when you have men knighted,men like jimmy savil or Sir Noncealot
What do woman get?
"You haven't read a word of my book, have you?"
"I've read.. about it"
That just perfectly sums up the horrible state of affairs in modern political discourse...
except that the book doesn't exist...
it's a fake book - He's supposed to represent the mainstream narrative and she tears his arguments down with actual facts and logic.
Im curious what it is about my comment that either of you think indicates I had trouble grasping the concept of the video?
Yes, the book is fake. His whole character is an act. The interview is an act. These things are painfully obvious, and I never said anything to suggest I believed otherwise. C'mon guys, Im trying really hard not to say "no shit, Sherlock" but you aren't making it easy.
@@A-Duck ahm. yeah...
@@therealpatrick Indeed.
Unfortunately I can't convince my step mum who hasn't worked in over 20 years
Lmao
@Son Goku rich from a prior marriage where she got a great portion of her ex-husbands money upon divorce - i'd bet my bottom dollar. or came from a rich family and never really worked in the first place
Even my mum gets angry when I relay these points, her partner worked 12 hrs a day while she stayed home, it’s hard to change your opinion when it means you have to take personal responsibility
"You think that's funny!?"
"See, now you're sounding like a feminist!"
GAGAGAGAGAAGAG this is wonderful! PRANK! It is terrible! I looked in the mirror and saw something UNPRETTY: my face. GAGAGAGAG! But I am happy again because I have TWO HOT GIRLFRIENDS and I make cool YT videos with them! Good evening, love and peace, dear sana
@@harmonicwaters did you even watch the video
@@AxxLAfriku Oh look its AxxL
she said “you think that’s funny” when she directly laughed before hand 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
😂
Buy her book! I hear it’s only 76% of the price of books written by male authors. 🤣
that’s so funny. haha.
Legit lold
Lagit if not for the crying face this would have been one of the best comments in this comment section
Now, that is comedy gold
You don't deserve a like because of that emoji
"not gonna lie, they had us in the first half"
Why would they film him picking his nose then shaking her hand . If they didn’t do that I would of been fooled too
It looks to me like this is all a hoax. I couldn't find this book on Amazon, and I couldn't find any other YT video about it either.
lol. Its a comedy sketch. Genuine people and rational view points do not promote social division, and consequently do not get airtime.
Look up 'Divide and Conquer' and think how could someone apply its key principles to our society.
@@JosephKulik2016 you are so guillble
@@JosephKulik2016 It's... almost like Jonathan Pie Is a comedian...
"Aren't we supposed to be interviewing a feminist" cracked me up😂😂
Man, I'm starting to get a crush on the feminist.
I appreciate standing for something, while not getting carried away into falsehood by the thing you're fighting for.
yeah thats real feminsim right there. and thas fucking sexy. because shes a self possesed, intelligent and strong women. she doesnt need anyone to tell men or her that shes equal shes proving it in everything she does and says and in the way she carries herself.
@@chrishoppner7875 I think that's the point; she isn't, she speaks for herself. **self satisfied grin**
@Benjamin McCann Speaking only for myself, I was referring to the fictional character, yes.
@Benjamin McCann No this is what feminism used to be. Christina Hoff Sommers is worth reading if you want a model of feminism before it was hijacked by bigots.
She's smart and cute. IE my strike zone.
Amazing sketch. Clicked the video and thought it would be of some dude "owning some feminazi with facts and logic" but was absolutely pleasantly surprised
But you know thats what the dudes do in those videos. They own feminazis with facts and logic. Because 3rd wave feminism isnt based on logic, its based on victimhood and feelings.
Same though
Doesn't matter if you got a dick or a pussy, all that matters are your arguments.
Just a small question, cause I'm not really familiar with the subject. Wasn't third age feminism back in the 80's about various social right like paid maternity and such.
@@mirceadonciu4983 that was second wave
See if most feminists were really this reasonable, I’d call myself a feminist
로라 [Laura] Some of us are!
All the this.
Feminism is not about equality anymore. I USED to be a feminist, then I opened my eyes and saw that they are currently shitting on all the changes first and second wave feminists fought so hard for. It's disgusting. I'm not a feminist because I believe everyone should have the same oppotunities.
At this point I advise people to say they fight for gender equality, instead of saying they're a feminist. Just drop the term altogether, because you can get away with saying a lot of dumb shit as a feminist (patriarchy, rape culture, etc) but since the only actual gender issue in society is equality, let's just talk about gender equality.
MsChitterchat I’d say the real battle for you is not the people who claim they’re not feminists but the idiots who claim to be feminists and tarnish that label. Good luck to you-
Gredddfe I mean most people already are, for me I really can’t find any government policy that distinguishes sex that majorly cause unfair opportunities in the US. Honestly the only women-related rights I can think of in the US is abortion (which for me I’m pro choice). Of course other countries may need to work on their gender equality. But yeah, I don’t call myself a feminist, that term has been poisoned and I have no motivation to fight for that label.
I was genuinely sad when I searched for her book and found out shes not a real person :(
Of course she is not!
I think she's written around the book 'Women Vs. Feminism: Why We All Need Liberating from the Gender Wars' by Joanna Williams.
Very enlightening book written by Director of the Centre for the Study of Higher Education at the University of Kent. Hope this helps :)
WAIT what?!? I was so happy to find a logical feminist and you just shattered it.
Ace Upsleeve I know. There’s a real hunger for her type. With some luck, a character might appear.
What?! Treachery!
I love the way Pie always looks like he has a crushing hangover.
Art imitating life lol
He probably has... probably only getting absolutely hammered every night in a pub would make life bearable to a person like him...
He's a comedian. Of course he does...
Or mad withdrawals
That's because he's rich and that is what he does in his free time lol
*whispers*
"I thought i was interviewing a feminist"
I am a feminist!
God i think its the first time i heard feminist in an epic empowering manner and ive rooted for it
I didnt get to expirience theat part of feminism im kinda young so this video is one of the only good feminism examples o have
@erni muja
Feminism has always been destructive to society :P
@erni muja
Feminism back then was led by rich women you mean. Women with more power in society than 60% of the population, women or otherwise.
Back then only 40% of men had the vote. 100 years earlier, only 1% of men had the vote. These women were the wives and daughters of the men that had had the vote for centuries. And if you are to suggest to me that they did not have the power to sway their husbands and fathers votes. Then you think very little of women.
These women had many freedoms to do whatever the hell they wanted. Some women were forced into political marriages, yes. But so were a lot of men. That's about the worst thing that happened to them.
Back then having a job meant working 10-12 hours a day 6 days a week. In a factory, in a field or some other harsh, demeaning, or otherwise backbreaking job. Or of course you could go die in war as a soldier.
The women back then did not want those jobs. And I dare say nobody today want them either.
The women that were not the daughters of rich people. Actually much enjoyed the arrangement of men doing labor and the woman taking care of the house. Because women had it better... Have you heard of the anti-feminists? They were equally as many as the feminists. But of course they didn't have the social power, nor the time really to go about complaining. They were poor (according to our standards) and had things to do.
In Britain women got the vote in 1918, the same year men got the vote. Men had been fighting for the vote for 150 years at that point. And was given it because of their duty to fight in war. And because of the huge amounts of men that died in WW1 without suffrage. Women got the vote too. Just because...
Women joining the work force happened after the laborers had worked for ages to improve working conditions. They had negotiated down the work hours to 8 hours a day and finally the work life balance of the poor was also evening out.
The women joining the work force of course upended that. Because now, instead of a family having one man working 40 hour weeks. you had two adults working 40 hour weeks. And the same family didn't even earn any more money than they did before. If it isn't immediately obvious to you, this means you have 40 hours less as a family to spend on taking care of the house and children.
If the feminists actually cared about society. They would have negotiated with the government, not only to "let" them into the work force (The government was thrilled about having women in the work force) They would have leveraged their work against bringing the working hours for men even lower.
@erni muja yeah that makes sense, anyine with two braincells would see that women have it as easy or more than man nowadays, their work on that is done so only the dumb ones are left i agree. Hehe see what i did there? "Left"
*gets banned from youtube*
@erni muja
I guess you havent heard of the suffragets that went around shaming men (that didnt have the vote) into joining the war. While they campaigned for their own vote. Not for the vote of the poor
I love the fact that she asks him out for a drink literally seconds after calling him a prick. That is 90% of my female friends right there.
imo it actually goes along well with her character.
as in: her being a confident woman. and therefore not needing to wait for him to ask her out (which obviously is still the way it happens most of the time) but instead decides to go for it herself.
Here’s a feminist I can see eye to eye with.
@Benjamin McCann That´s acually sad.
If you want to have a reasonable feminist, you have to write her/him
@@andreas4270 Sorry that aint true cause I'm one and I think exactly like this. And I sure hope im not a made up sidecharacter in your story rn lmao
*So what you're saying is....*
Ha ha that is never going to die.
Doc X get out 😂😂😂
Hahaha!
Ha! Gotcha!
YOU ARE A LOBSTER!
"You turn them into victims... is that really empowering them ?"
Very well said
Is saying that there is a problem turning them into victims?
@@Ray03595 it was a joke rofl stfu
@@Luke47895? its still a joke u peanut
Haroo haroo haroo
"do you think this is funny?"
"now you're sounding like a feminist"
lawl
"Feminism is about autonomy and choice, not about playing the victim"
“Can’t say fuck”
Fuck that.
hipocrite
bit of Alan Partridge in there... Partridge Pie :p
“7 out of 10 people are wrong” I find myself saying this often.
Tom Byrne tell that to ages ago and they’d think it’s about the flat earth.
I always liked it when people use that argument. "How could X amount of people be wrong?" where X = a large amount. Now take religion. There's what, 1 billion Muslims? Probably also a billion Christians? Both can't be right. Now we have (at least) 1 billion wrong people.
That is because facts can't be opinion based. You can ask how many people in believe in somethin purely because you want to know what people believe, or how up to date the population is. But what somebody believes changes nothing in facts.
"Imagine how stupid the average person is... now imagine that half of the people out there are even stupider than that"
- George Carlin
And 6 out of 7 dwarves....aren't Happy
The truest feminist I’ve seen in a LOOONG time. This is simply great.
Literally what Jordan Peterson said in the Cathy Newman interview.
Yeah but when a woman says it it's a lot harder for feminists to call her sexist.
So what you're saying is...
@@jimothyworldbuilding3664 as said in the skit, they just say she has "Internalised misogyny"
That fucking bitch annoyed me to a blood boiling degree
He didn't reason it as clearly as she did here. ..
"This is not the narrative" ahahahahahaha
got me
MrZriael “you think you’re being funny”
“NOW you sound like a feminist”
That’s the one that made me snort.
"Hang on there, i'm on your side!" lol
>Reads the title
This is gonna be good.
Oh its gorgeous
Boi where’s EBF5
I knew it would be good, but I wasn’t expecting it to be that bloody good.
Unfortunately this doesn't apply to the US.And before everyone freaks out it's been proven that women in white collar jobs here make less than a man doing the same job,same thing for our melanin enhanced friends.A prestigious American University sent identical resumes except for gender and race and guess what?Women and brown folks were routinely offered 10-20% less than their identical white male counterparts.American's are encouraged never to talk about how much they make,precisely for this reason.It's illegal here too technically,but that's never stopped a corporation before.The other observations are valid,but don't cover it all here.Maybe the UK's different.
Stephen Cody exactly, except a few points. It's "sort of" illegal to base pay on gender and race, religion, etc but the onus is on YOU the employee to find out and prove it within a short period of time, otherwise, it's Too bad, so sad. That's what the Lilly Ledbetter Act was supposed to fix:"the clock didn't start until you found out. But, on drumpf's obsession of all things Obama, he undid the Ledbetter Act. Also, to add to what you were saying about white collar professionals and the wage gap, there was an additional study about the wage gap in the medical field. Even with EVERY option the same (IE: Same college, same GPA, same title, same field of medicine, same hospital, etc) except gender, men were on average paid around $12,0000 more per year than their female counterparts. A UA-cam channel Healthcare Triage did a great video on it, with all sources linked and provided.
This felt way too much like an actual interview with an admirable author, rather than a satirical comedy sketch for a fake news presenter's UA-cam channel.
What do you mean? A feminist on TV who understand gender pay gap? Because that's covered and debated properly, isn't it?
@@quizpubbob not that deep
@@bico6685 The penny has dropped.
Bigot!
“How do you fancy going for a drink after?”
This question alone spoke a thousand words
Surprised nobody else highlighted this moment in the comments!
@@SoundSpeeding I know right, I think it's because they kinda just skimmed over it and it's not something very noticeable in the video
@@aidenwinter1117 how it was skimmed over just makes it all the funnier
because you have to brit-ish to understand a word
Is that considered sexual harassment? It happens to me a lot. I always assumed they were interested in my point of view sometimes and am not automatically offended. 🙁
“Do you fancy going for a drink after?”
....
“Okay”. Hahahaha
Pie didn't make much of an attractive showing in this. Unless this woman gets off on dominating small men.
He's got that 1000 yard stare like it's an execution but still says okay. XD
Olive, I think the joke is that she's an empowered woman who doesn't have an issue being assertive and asking a man out, not that he's a small man. No? I mean, does he have to be a small man and she have to be some kind of dominatrix for that to work?
What's wrong with a bit of femdom anyway?
Whatever you're into, fella. No worries. :)
I was upset to find that this woman and book are a parody, as I instantly fell in love with her.
The book is fake, but I don't think her character is a parody. Yes, it's fictional, but it's also the "serious" voice in the discussion. He's supposed to represent the mainstream narrative and she tears his arguments down with actual facts and logic.
*cringe*
@@gringochucha facts and logic? against the narrative? She must be alt right.
there is a feminist like this her name is Camille Paglia
@Rikka The Second The only difference criminalizing abortion makes is that it kills the woman too.
"Did you enjoy it?"
*no answer*
"We don't need to be patronised". Damn right.
'To suggest that a woman can't form her own opinion - that is real misogyny' - big oof there!
well that's kinda the case for most women today who when given freedom choose to murder their own unborn babies
fordcabriogt murder is illegal
@@Ltpwnface obviously not considering how many millions of abortions are being done every single year
fordcabriogt no, reread the definition of murder. They would be arrested if it was murder.
@@Ltpwnface stopping a human heartbeat is murder
This was absolutely on the mark. The tone, timing, chemistry and both performances were perfect. Nailed it.
CryptedSky, not to forget the actual arguments themselves, which is the real gold propped up by the factors you mention
tobo86 Yeah, he kicked the shit out of those strawmen.
a lex, which specific strawmen are you referring to?
@@EmperorsNewWardrobe 75 cents on the dollar mith id wager
Poor Gamer, gotcha
This actually had me googling her name/book name to get a copy. Genuinely good acting!
3:54 "Tescos" "What about Tesco?" Made my heart sing. All you twats who pluralise shopnames.
My auntie says "Mataland"
This was 50% quieter than 95% of Jonathan Pie videos.
Interestingly, my favourite video of his is his quietest video. That video being "There's nothing wrong with Jeremy Hunt"
And all the better for it!
+Doctor Psycho Killer Jeremy ....... Hunt
Casi Paul waited for him to start screaming the whole time😂
"You wouldn't call him Wizard Jeremy, would you? And you certainly wouldn't call him... *Mystic hunt*"
Googled the book and author on the offchance that they were real. Decidedly disappointed to find that they weren't.
I guess this is how Pie would have to present these arguments to avoid being called sexist though. Good job Pie.
Guessing not this person:
www.amazon.com/Melissa-Stevens/e/B008H4LM8K
Vicky Caramel Because feminists run literally every single publishing company in the country?
Try one of the Christina Hoff Sommers books, pretty sure she is what you looking for.
Pie interviewing the author of Released by Desire: City of Sin, would have been a different kettle of fish altogether I think.
how about Camille Paglia?
Pie did, indeed, get deep into her book that day.
that "7 in 10 people are wrong" line always gets me
"Do you think this is funny?""See now you're sounding like a feminist."
Lmao too good 😂😂😂
That interaction was so funny my balls fell off 🤣
Prick!
Jonathan Pie always proves that comedy is the best way to convey information.
Meta/s more like its the only way we can digest information.
Clever and strong. This is the feminism society needs. I admire her !!
Yeah I hate feminism but yeah I admire her too
Great way to do this interview! Tx to both of you.
This is great!
Get back to making videos
Fancy seeing you here!
Shouldn't you be working on videos that will never be released?
Chris Ray Gun hell yeah daddy
I’m sorry 😐. You’re somewhat decent.
Oh hey I agree
Haha, brilliant summary of the bullshit surrounding the issue.
Bullshit Man you would know bullshit. It is your name after all
We need you now more than ever
B.S. Man..You are everywhere!!
Too much communism. Needs more helicopters, so to speak.
sargon would be proud...
This is the type of feminist I respect
I can’t tell you how refreshing it felt to watch this! More please!
Pie has now assumed the role of the nations jester. He fearlessly tells the truth
/ Pewdiepie
Unfortunately, it could soon be off with his head if free speech is totally eroded.
/ Keemstar
Lol keemstar lives in America. Pewdiepie, Sargon and Pie live in the UK.
LeadFaun Sargons an idiot that cant read his own source, he’s not a man you want to be arguing your point of view.
'Fancy going for a drink after?' That's it. That is the whole point. She captured it perfectly. Fucking Brilliant.
Fucking howled that that line haha
These two people are beyond great. There's no words for how amazing this piece of content is.
I'm gettin' hooked on Pie... This is SO clever, LOVE IT!!! 😁
Wow! I have to say when I clicked play I was expecting something quite different. This is one of the most refreshing, concisely argued cases for true respectful equality ever. Well done! (Middle aged white bloke/feminist)
Awesome. The feminism that actually empowered women was one I could get on board with. This new victim mentality type is actually a downgrade. Make women great again.
Just read "call the midwife" and that certainly will give you a great appreciation for womankind and female heroines who own their own feminine roles. In awe more of my fellow woman now than ever, but not of the ones that act like victims, need lots of attention about little thngs, act like that one time some stupid bloke said something stupid to them ruined their life and damaged them. Those ones let us all down and make us all look silly.
@@SineadLaws ''who own their own feminine roles''? I thought the point is we are to move away from that?!
@@trildi I don't know about that. We need to make sure no one is forced into a role, but the roles themselves aren't going away.
Why would you want that? To empower women? They already have equal rights, sometimes they are even treated better than males. E.g. less time in prison.
feminism isnt necessary at all
The fact that this is a comedy sketch and not just the generally accepted truth is what's worrying 😂
I get that it is staged, but as I've not watched Jonathan Pie before, I don't actually get the "comedy"-part? It's a serious topic, and she (the actress) is raising some of the same arguments as fx. Jordan B. Peterson, so where is the comedy?
Christoffer Ravn Timing and delivery
Christoffer Ravn it's not what she says that's the "funny" bit… it's that an alleged journalist aka "truth reporter" is FLABBERGASTED BY THE TRUTH! It would be like telling a mathematician 2+2 = 4, and them genuinely replying "but I was told it was 22!" Superficial mainstream journalism is what is being lampooned by this comedy sketch, not the serious facts that she speaks.
@@risingson21 well explained 👌
@@christofferravn4486 its called satire
This is the interview that we need in real life but we will never, ever get, unfortunately.
Yes. It does not fit "the narrative"...
We do right here.
Jordan Peterson's interview with Cathy Newman was pretty similar. Of course this skit was written so it's more coherent than Jordan Peterson having to bat off stupid accusations and arguments from Cathy Newman but the message is still there.
“I am a femenist.” Yes you are a real one. There are so many, not really not real ones, but not in line with the heart of the original movement.
@gilles grindel yeah.. having to fight in order to get voting right is a sensible cause.
@@Pranav-rp8wi and what have they done with it ? vote socialist. If it wasn't for women we would not have a democratic party. 80% of democrats are women and the other 20% are weak men that want communism so they wont feel like losers
@@Pranav-rp8wi Back then, 75% of men did not have the right to vote either.
Fun Fact: If you want to get paid as much as someone in another job, the best course of action is often to get that job
But in many circumstances, a woman can get the same job as a man and still be paid significantly less. Also, they can't get those jobs usually. About 6.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are female. that's not through lack of effort on their part, I can assure you.
again paying them less is illegal if they get payed less its because they dont work as much hours they dont take extra hours they dont have flexible schedules they are less likely to ask for promotions they are a million and one reasons and sexism isn't one of them as to there only being 6,4% of women in fortune 500 companies most women dont want to dedicate their entire life and any opportunity for family to their job and most women are less assertive then most man
Zaper yes it is illegal and it's still happening. Companies break the law all the time. That's why there are so many lawsuits against them and they are successful too.
Also there are plenty of women who are prepared to work just as many if not more hours than men.
ranz0u
>"Also there are plenty of women who are prepared to work just as many if not more hours than men."
Yeah, but on average, women work less hours than men.
>"About 6.4% of Fortune 500 CEOs are female. that's not through lack of effort on their part, I can assure you."
Women have wombs, they are the ones who take significant time out of the workforce to have babies and breastfeed them. This obviously effects their careers. Men don't need to disrupt their careers like this because they don't have wombs and breasts.
yes it is
She's my kind of feminist. When she called him a prick, I fell in love.. I know it's only acting, but if only..
made her look hotter than at the beginning of the interview. Personality always worth an uprating respectfully
@@kieronbilton2674 Totally agree..
@@kieronbilton2674 I thought I was the only one!
I consider myself lucky in that my wife is very similar. A very intelligent woman who is more interested in facts than made up BS and who gives as good as she gets.
Still, her more moderate feminism will skew to the current sort. It is the law of entropy.
“That’s not the narrative....” 😂😂 this line was great 😂
The fact that they had to find an actress to play the "sane Feminist" speaks for it self.
not really, considering that "Jonathan Pie" in itself is a character.
"Do you think this is funny?"
"See now you're sounding like a feminist"
I laughed. A lot.
My favourite line!
Do you fancy going for a drink after?
and a 7 minute video just taught me more about feminism and the "pay gap" than the MSM has in 35 years. well done Pie :)
Yeah, the problem was never the 'pay gap' specifically, it was always the underlying issues that foster specific environments and/or systems that promote issues inclined to marginalize or dissuade women from entering the workplace to the same extent as men.
So. Basically, what the vid said.
@Mel Christensen
That's not actually accurate. All it takes is looking at statistics of which gender does what job in countries like Sweden to see that the opposite is actually the case where the more egalitarian the society is, the sharper the gender divide becomes with regards to which jobs people take.
In other words, the more sexist a society is, the more likely you are to see women striving for jobs, careers, and positions that might be viewed as "men's work".
Ha ha, like environments where one has to work hard, sweat, get dirty, lift heavy things, endanger themselves, and so forth. Woman: "I want to be a welder". Instructor: "Okay, take that oxygen tank and put it over there." Woman: "I can't budge it. I'm being marginalized and dissuaded from being a welder in this toxic male environment!"
@@scocassovegetus you see maybe we need to redefine what “work hard” means. Have you ever looked after 3 toddlers for a day, on your own? Tantrums and shitty nappies and having your eyes everywhere in case someone falls off a sofa or shoved their fingers in a plug socket… totally exhausting. So perhaps the way to decrease the “pay gap” is to increase the monetary value we place on so called “women’s work”. In fact Scandinavian countries have done this to quite an extent - e.g. in Finland, teachers (majority female in the UK) are paid the same as doctors and lawyers (majority male in the UK). And when you think about it, why shouldn’t they be? We trust them to guide and program our kids. That’s a pretty important job.
@@scocassovegetus One of my best friends is a female welder, what's your issue with them?
Clear inversion of the JP Kathy Newman interview. Pure gold.
American here: Time after time, Jonathan Pie (Tom Walker) shows that he is the best and funniest political commentator on the planet.
She got more attractive the more she spoke.
Ikr I was in love by the end
Intelligence is attractive.
I just scrolled down to write this exact comment!
I like her big fat wobbly arse.
Lord Samich she's also right
Can someone plz ensure this video gets to Cathy Newman???
So you're saying Cathy Newman shouldn't be allowed to watch other videos?
CPG VonC 😂👏🏻👏🏻
So you're saying UA-cam is full of lobsters?
So you're saying Cathy Newman can't find this video by herself?
So ur saying women cant use youtube?
From the picking of his nose to the "fancy going for a drink after" fucking gold🤣🤣
I love the way how bewildered Jonathan looks whilst getting his education. Pure class lol.
"fancy going for a drink after?" PERFECT xD
Chihiro Kikuchi if the guy asked it... Oof
This is some of the best writing this show has seen.
That final bit when she asks him to go for a drink was tops.
I literally said "yes, but now" to my phone.
This really caught me off guard, I wish there where more vids like this on yt
I've been looking for this one for a while, since seeing his interview with Channel 4 (K G-M) and how this particular one helped launch his career.
Fascinating to see it played out, even while already aware of the 'twist in the tale'.
A very interesting take on what's inarguably a frequent hot and emotive topic.
“Congratulations on the book”
“Did you enjoy it?”
(To the cameraman) “Are we ready?”
I’m dying 😂
This a real woman, a real feminist. My wife gets paid more than anyone else she works with other than her manager, by a substantial amount, why? Because she's got a ton of experience, she good at a her job and when we decided to have children, she went back to work after a month and I stayed at home to look after the kids. Best decision ever btw, lmao.
According to the looney feminists, its a tough job walking around the house all day in your pjs.
She's not a feminist, she's an actor, pointing out the ludicrous feminist rhetoric.
Chase Fallstar literally saw your username and had to comment, completely agree with your comment and love Robin Hobbs work
About time all this pc bulshit is called out. Jordon peterson seems to of started a tidle wave of common sense to come back the main stream media is really old and boring now!
Sure they did Chade, sure
The zoom in down his pants after 2:58 was just genius !
Excellent acting, great script, well delivered, really funny. So unusual :)
Great Job loving your stuff bud!
Bored! What are you doing here? I thought you lived in the 'verse haha
Oh hey, its Bored.
You should add a spot of punctuation to your comments, that way you can avoid them sounding like masturbatory encouragement. :p
See you in the verse mate.
Love your videos
Sarcastic as fuck and instead of just being extremely partisan he actually rips on both sides.
They don't make the perfect woma....
LOL.
Seriously she can get the D just for that brain.
She instantly became a billion points hotter when she revealed her true colors
Perfect is too strong a word. She clearly has an eating/glandular/hormonal disorder.
I'd smash though
This is the most bang on vid of bang on vids Pie has ever released; ever.
"you think this is funny"
"you see,now you sounded like a feminist"
"See nooowwww you sounded like a feminist" that was perfect.
I died
This is absolute gold!
The acting is top notch
ew a weeb
@@Spyler1 ew a normal beautiful amazing person, I love you.
@@Spyler1 Eww a Groot.
she should have had this argument with one of those anti-men feminists
As if they'd agree to debate an intelligent woman
This might be my favorite channel on youtube
Oh look!! An ACTUAL feminist and not a 3rd wave feminazi!?!?!
Aaaaaannd subbed!!
You've subscribed to Jonathan Pie not the fictional feminist lol. But still not a bad thing.
@@moss1066 fully aware of who i subbed darlin lol he seems funny n very much a smart ass... My kinda guy
to be fair some 1st and 2nd wave feminists were worse. calling for deaths of all women
What's the difference?
@@muhammadstotalpeacefulreli1772 i know it's a long while, but your username is amazing....i like the sarcasm😂😂😂😂😂
_"Congratulations on the book."_
_"Did you enjoy it?"_
_"Uhhh... are we ready?"_
I wish more people like her had a voice
“You think this is funny?”
“Now you’re sounding like a feminist!”
“Prick”
I hope this goes viral. Let this go viral, please.
This was unexpected and beautiful! Gotta love this man for denouncing the bigotry of the right and the hollow political correctness of the left!
"hollow political correctness of the left" Fuck off I'm on the left of centre and I find this piece bang on, not all lefties are retards you know, most of us don't buy this shit at all. Don't paint us all with the same brush.
"denouncing the bigotry of the right and the hollow political correctness of the left!"
Smug, inaccurate false equivalence. It doesn't make you somehow enlightened to see through the transparent bullshit of the far left.
Daniel Jones, I'm finding it hard to believe that you're even close to the centre when you get upset over a comment like this.
They DIDN'T paint all those on the left with the same brush. The comment didn't say "Of ALL those on the left", only that hollow political correctness is a virus FOUND on the left. And you can't deny that.
The commenter was also critical of right but you didn't say "not all righties are bigots you know". Seems like your identifying with a tribe instead of trying to remain neutral.
There are a lot of people that say they are left but they arent
Daniel Jones yeah and not all people on the right are bigots so chill
This needs more views! Incredibly funny and on point but also so sad at the same time. Mainstream media is failing society by pushing these narratives that are predicated on BS. It diverts the political discussion away from the real underlying societal issues that need to be addressed.
Phenomenal. Most men would love to be asked out by her. Strong, independent and would definitely buy the 1st round!!
Damn this is so good. I love his rants but it’s great to see Pie as the comedy foil to someone else making killer political and social observations. And she’s just brilliant. Although it’s a slightly different animal, this totally reminds me of Partridge at its best.
He DEFINITELY went a bit Partridge in this one!
That was excellent. Not often you see Pie on the back foot, or defending something that’s complete bollocks.
Toby Wood, if he'd just come out and said it himself, it'd be labelled as sexist. That was the only way he could avoid a backlash.
Toby Wood it's satire. He's playing a character to get his point across. Sheesh.
Toby Wood It would of been funny if it was Tim doing the interview
Lord Spam And your point is?
Toby Wood That he's not *actually* on the back foot. I thought I was pretty clear.
The most satisfying part for me was when she corrected him for pluralising 'Tesco'.
This was eye opening, refreshing and hilarious.
Pie just gets better and better!
She is so balanced with her arguments. The world needs more people like her.
☺☺☺
It's a sketch..
@@jongbong1912 she's still correct
The world is full of 'people like her'. They are just never allowed to speak, and when they try to, there are protests.
ua-cam.com/video/iARHCxAMAO0/v-deo.html
Every feminist I've ever met, including myself, is like her. The 'feminists' that this sketch is making fun of are a minority and the only reason we see them all the time is because they are the type of people to make yt vids about it and so on. The majority of feminists are like the women in this vid.
@@olliekearnon-caister7615
Ah yes, the 'No True Feminist', aka NAFALT.
I hate to break it to you, but the ones running the Feminist movement, the ones writing the text books, the ones teaching at universities, are nothing like her.
Women live longer, have the safest jobs, are the majority of university students, get the majority of government funding, commit 45% (roughly) of the crimes, and are 5% of the prison population, have enforced quotas for many jobs, get paid more for the same work, are the lest likely to be victims of all forms of violent crime, AND call themselves 'oppressed'.
If Feminists wanted equality, they would be acting like MRAs.
“Did you enjoy the book?”
“...”
I really like J Pie who’s got more honesty and real journalism than the entire western mediasphere combined. Despite I disagree with Pie’s politics plenty of times.
I can't stand his* politics, but I love his honesty.
*The character's politics, that is. I have no idea what the real guy's politics are.
Brilliant sketch, well done!
I don't understand...she has a vagina right?
Just tried to order her book.
It doesn't exist. She's an actress. Isn't feminism amazing?
Yeah obviously she's an actress. This is a comedic / satirical sketch
this is a good sketch yea. Looks like they have been listening to the conservatives
Except for 1 key fact it's complete Bull Shit AxioM1721