thanks for the tip on waiting till I'm at N2 in Japanese before trying to start Chinese. I was trying to learn them both at the same time and had to give up on Chinese for the time being.
People who come across Japanese are very lucky. In Japanese, the word itself has power, combined with a spell that ancient people have come into contact with the gods.Produces matter from words. Therefore, don't use bad words. It is hardly understood by modern Japanese.
I’m currently learning Japanese and I truly want to learn a bunch of other languages but it’s pretty difficult. I appreciate your transparency about your language journey 💛
I started with Japanese but found I enjoyed listening to Chinese music and dramas then switched over to Chinese. Basically learn a language that you enjoy.
That really broke my heart that some members of the community felt like they had the right to dictate what you study. They had no right to harass you like that. I am glad you felt comfortable to open about this topic. Hope this encourages more people to speak out against this kind of behavior. You have accomplished more with one pinky than those people will with their possessive attitudes. Watched the video when it came out but had to come back and send my love and support.
I feel that humbling experience when you start a new language. I've just recently started Russian, and I gotta keep reminding myself that I can't just start having a conversation, that I need to go back to basics and start from scratch x'D Shame to hear about your experience with learning Chinese though, I do hope you give it (or any language) another go.
@@KateikyoshiDX the russian language has just such a wonderful sound. 1 of the best 3 in the world besides french and italian. and the russian anthem is the most marvellous too. There are few countries that could compete with the variety of russian literature and if you are able to you should always read it in the original version.
@@dakotamiller6155 Well, russian sounding cool is your opinion but I wonder what OP thinks and what are his motivations. True, language can be studied not only to work and live somethere, but just to enjoy the culture it is based upon.
Damn i totally felt that. On the flip side, like you said, you're in a good place now. Although the internet can still be cruel, you've grown to be such an inspiration and positive influence that if you do decide to share your journey again, im sure youtube will welcome with open arms. I love the baby bump glow you had going on. ✨️ Tambien tienes español que praticar 🤭
Been a fan of Loretta since she uploaded in 360p doing her 自己紹介 when she was in like middle school lmao. So happy to see you and Oriental Pearl doing a video together. Thanks for sharing!
Loved this discussion about Japanese transparency. I've learnt Chinese first well Mandarin at secondary school and I feel like I should go back to it & carry on until a better understanding.
Studying multiple languages effectively is so hard. I have so much respect for anyone who's learned a foreign language to a high level and then that much more respect for anyone who went and did it again (like Oriental Pearl). People will say oh, you're good at languages, or now that you know how to study a foreign language, you're able to do it easier. There's a little truth to that but if it were that easy then most people wouldn't stop at one language but go on to three, four etc. They don't. At least not that many. I think that's because more than anything else your passion and motivation for a foreign language is what determines how far you will go. And having that crazy passion and motivation is hard to force. It seems like it's either there or it isn't. Just because you have a foreign boyfriend or girlfriend, or even married them, or moved to a foreign country, doesn't mean as much as you might think when it comes to the motivation required to reach a high level in the new language.
@7:40 Honestly, your mom is totally right...!! As someone who was a student for too long, I think for some of us there is a disconnect between school (which we're all sooo used to for so long, due to attending it _at least_ from ~5/6 to ~18 for most of us) and "life after" school. I think some people really do need to learn how to learn without all the structure of formal schooling, _be okay_ with the fact that learning on your own is going to be in some ways less structured and "comprehensive" feeling than learning in school, and do some work to understand how to transition from school-life to non-school-life (for me personally, I could have used a bit more instruction on this while I was in school - I wish I had a seminar or two in high school and then in college on what to expect from transitions between school and work life). I think that's absolutely worth saying out loud, and maybe something that we need to say more!
I love you guys. I was wondering when you guys would meet up and this was a wonderful insight into language learning - Pros and cons, and the trials of learning. Great video.
I believe her when she said there wasn't a lot of Chinese learning content on UA-cam when she had a first started learning Japanese. Because when I first started learning Chinese two and a half years ago there wasn't a lot of content that I could depend on. So I had used a lot of books through Tuttle and use their audio to learn Chinese. I swear there were only a few Chinese learning channels until maybe about a year ago. Now, it seems as if everybody is jumping on the Chinese learning wave and I'm thinking that the pandemic had a lot to do with it.
Yess Maangchi! She's a great channel to have in your back pocket for recipes 😭 I love her simultaneously fiesty and laid back, "go with the flow" attitude. She really makes a lot of Korean dishes feel accessible - like having a sister or aunt teaching you recipes and dishes and tricks while cooking.
"Why did I do/say that?? Stupid, s-s-STUPID!" is such a mood even in my mother tongue 😂 I'm 25F and I love you two's channels, I am interested in both Japanese, Korean, and Chinese as well but recently decided to focus only on Japanese for now until I get to an intermediate level. I wish I had friends like you, no one else wants to learn Japanese with me and classes are so expensive 😪
I love that you two got to meet & do a video together talking about language learning. I have a very close friend of mine whose dabbling in many languages & since since I had a bad burnout that I’m mo the pandemic I wanted to tackle on wanting to learn more languages in the future. I know it’s not easy & like you mentioned it’s hard when you have other things like work & school but baby steps. I was seriously at it for Japanese during the rona time & got to slowly hit few a good books to motivate reading skills & slowly brushing up on my mother tongue Spanish which needed to be improved & I wanted to for a while. I’m slowly dabbling on Japanese and Spanish again & trying not to force myself more than I can since I recovered from Burnout
Japanese and Korean were fairly easy for me to pick up without formally learning, just listening, but my brain cannot do the same with Chinese no matter how much I hear it😅 like where do you even begin with it??
I remember my first day of learning my prof started us off with the " ma ma ma ma" poem. Me: I'm doomed💀. Hehe, I think of the tones as singing/karaoke 🤩
IMO, I think Japanese and Korean share some similar root phonetics, but Chinese is fairly different. It’s like 中文 is C+ and 日本語/한국어 is JavaScript/Python.
It will all make sense after the 1000th one hour episode of dramas. It will start to click. You will hear everything and understand all that you have memorized. Then what you memorized , you will automatically understand without thinking about it. You'll just know what it means but for what you didn't study, you will need to view subtitles. 😂 So, yeah about 2 years, but you can very well mimic the accent between 12-18 months. If you study everyday and study the same book at least 5 times before moving on and view everything in Chinese, then it will click quicker. I promise you.
Awesome video! I just found your channel out through other foreigners that speak Japanese, and I really like your content! I'm going to binge watch a lot of your videos 😅😂
Loretta! Great to watch one of your videos again and though I haven't nearly been ambitious with multiple languages, I definitely found this video valuable. I really want to learn Mandarin now, but with my Japanese probably decaying to N3 or N4 (I never passed N2), I'm not sure if I should beef up my Japanese again or just go straight into Mandarin. Thank you for featuring Oriental Pearl, I'm going to check out her channel
my situation is the opposite. I'm putting off Japanese because learning Kanji and Hanzi pronunciation simultaneously is too confusing. Sticking to Chinese for now
Hanging out with one of the best, in the wonderful positive Anming. Having visited your introductory location just before a certain virus hit, happy memories
I like to study two languages at the same time BUT you must be in different levels of each language. I think it's kind good because when I get tired of one of them I can switch to the other and I'll always be studying.
@@erturtemirbaev5207 At the moment, just Italian. I studied English and Spanish at the same time some years ago. I started Japanese and Chinese but I've stopped for a while.
I spent a huge amount of my high school years and college years learning German. I felt like I had lost so much but I was listening to an interview with one of my favorite pianists, who happens to be German, and was happy I could remember some words! You are learning, even if it doesn't seem like it.
I was watching away and then a Korean advert popped up 🙄. Interesting!! Loved this. Having watched a lot of Korean tv you start to hear the variations of the Korean language on particular words ie Thank you or lets go or go and the amazing thing that 'f' is not a letter as it is represented as 'p'. Whether I learn the language depends when I am happy with my russian and french!! Great interview 🙃
My older brother always got good grades in school. When we were both adults, he told me that he resented it when people told him that he was smart. He said 'No, I just work hard at it.' I never thought of it that way. When you do well at something, people will say you're good at it, like it was easy for you. I suspect that people who are 'good at languages' are actually just good at applying themselves and persistent. In other words, hard workers.
Love your channel! I’ve been raised speaking Japanese and attended Japanese elementary school. However, I never learned to speak formal Japanese and my vocabulary is very limited since I stopped schooling since 6th grade. I can hold a conversation and travel by myself but I can’t discuss anything other than simple subject matters. Would love to ask what you think the best way to learn would be! Thank you:)
I think joining a team would be great! A sports club, a speaking club, a gym, a part-time or full time job etc. You've already for the fundamentals, you just need a circle of people to echo and expand✌️
@@Papayas44444 meetup.com ! Translate on gengo, google Japanese restaurants/grocery stores, city events, festivals, Japan Society, Japan Foundation, your closest Japan sister city, cultural center, etc. I did this in New York and Virginia by googling what's around. If you're not able to travel to a local hub, try italki/hellotalk, gaming in Japanese (VR Chat). You have to get creative.
Man,I REALLY need to get back on the horse with Japanese(I was even SUPER comfy with Kanji at one point!) But,it's hard to do when your own damn head is trying to get you commit suicide(among other things) But god,I really need to get back to learning Japanese again(and I have a whole bunch of languages that I want to learn). Great to know about your Journey in language learning and reminding us that the struggle is real -_-
I use a Kindle with a Japanese-English dictionary downloaded. When there's a word I don't know, I can just touch it and a translation comes up. It's a great way for making Anki cards, too, because you can highlight and save sentences and then make cards out of them later. So long as you're comfortable with a little ambiguity, it's a great method, even if your level is relatively low.
I started Japanese vaguely seriously during the pandemic (couple of community college courses - technically year 1 of Japanese is done --- lies) along with Spanish as my "easy language." I definitely can sympathize on the language confusion. My strongest language outside of English is French (DELF B2) so it makes my Spanish very French guy speaking Spanish with random French pronunciation or a French word bleeding through here or there. Because of your initial video and @Oriental Pearl 's coverage reminding me, I'm planning to go to the Akita Inaka school next year.
I really need to get back on the horse with Japanese. I've had to take 2 semesters off now. After graduation I'll get back to it. The plan is to transfer to Japan full time in 3-5 years through my job, so I have time, but I also need to learn Chinese (my wife is full blooded, native born Chinese). I feel like I'm going too be learning languages for the rest of my life
Florida's second language is Spanglish or Creolish, depending on your neighborhood, but when my mind goes blank in Japanese I throw in Spanish words, like it would help.
Honestly in my experience it is nearly impossible to mix up Chinese and Japanese even though I was only barely N3 maybe when I started learning Mandarin. The phonology and grammar are so completely different that it's very, very hard to get anything confused in my experience.
@@kemushichan I wish! I live in AZ. It's bone dry and dusty out here. And I know a lot of people won't understand this complaint, but it's just way too sunny here. The sun would be okay if there was an ocean, a breeze and the occasional cloud. But the lack of diversity in weather and the unrelenting heat can be kind of a bummer sometimes. I miss all the seasons and variety of weather that Japan has! :)
Well I've always thought Anming was cool, when in reality she is just cold. I came here from her channel, but I really enjoyed this interaction about learning multiple languages. I'll be happy if I can carry on a general conversation, and read informational tags in a Japanese museum. Since I've gotten serious about Japanese, I've learned to hate the word fluent, cause I think that's an academic myth word. I'm going for competent in Japanese, because I don't think true fluency is possible. I'm not fully fluent in English, although I have a large English vocabulary. I also found that issues I had learning my native language resurfaced in learning Japanese. Difference is I was surrounded by my native language, and until I can study in Japan, this is not the case. You guys had great chemistry in this fun and informative video. Anming put on a coat!
Chinese is sooooo much easier for me personally. Of course I studied Chinese first in college. My feeling is that Chinese and American cultures have more similarities as well as we do not tend to be overly shy and feel freer to share our true feelings.
yeah because for chinese, you dont have to worry about the grammar, it's just the tones and the writing that's gonna be tough for an english speaker to pick up unlike japanese which has 3 different writing scripts, totally different grammar and onyomu and kunyomi.
Thanks for the tips, I will try them. I've been studying japanese and esperanto in duolingo. I'm a pretty slow learner but I keep at it because I read somewhere that it's good for the brain. I tried to learn french but I quit because the pronunciation was so hard.
I've always known that I can probably learn one language out of side of English. But trying to learn multiples, l know for a fact I will forget the previous one. Just the endless cycle of me forgetting
I hope you don't mind if I write a few comments while I watch. When I was learning kanji I got easily confused (don't we all?) by Chinese characters or rather when apps used the Chinese version of a kanji for some reason instead of the Japanese one. I remember showing this to my Japanese tutor at school and she was so nice she wanted to agree with me etc but I could tell she just read and understood both of them and didn't worry about it beyond that. After many years of studying/reading Japanese at some point or probably gradually I've gotten to be the same way too.
i'm finnish and i've learned english & swedish (forgotten) at school, and tried to self learn later on japanese (not good with kanji or katakana), korean and chinese (because of c-dramas) ^^' lol
Because There are other priorities than learning random language. I wish more people be more honest and forgiving. I hate people downgrade other people who gave up learning language
I tried on Duolingo and I gave up because of laziness 😅 I kinda wish my mum made stay in Mandarin classes (I took them when I was about 4 and stopped when I was possibly 7). If I had stayed longer and maybe took some more courses throughout my life, I could’ve been pretty fluent (Currently I’m to improve my French skills)
I thought that to learn Georgian all you need to do was add "y'all" to every sentence :-) But seriously, once you learn what passes for an alphabet in the Georgian script, then the real fun begins because kartuli ena is mostly a language isolate and is agglutinative. Best to you, Boomer, Lily, and the baby, Loretta!
i sometimes want to quit Japanese for theres a lot of mistake writing kanji. so you are great to study the language which native speakers/writers want to throug away.good luck to your study.
Japanese and Korean are rooted in the same pronunciation system which is somewhere in the northeast region in the joint of modern China/N Korea and Russia. The pronunciation system of those 2 languages is actually different from Han Chinese. Yet they learned Kanji and therefore the vocabulary and therefore the culture and knowledge from China a lot, its similar to the situation in Europe in terms of the modern country's relationship with the Ancient Rome empire, only difference is Ancient Rome is gone but China is still here in today. So for modern Chinese, it takes much less effort to us to learn those 2 languages just like if you speak Latin and you figured out the English pronunciation pattern, you figured out much pronunciation of English vocabulary.
I've been learning chinese for 2,5 years and I've exposed myself to really unconfotable practicing situations recently. Now I feel 0 motivated to keep on speaking, even though I enjoy learning (and speaking is the most difficult part).
"oh no, I am the idiot again" It made me laugh xD It is so hard when you try to learn a language because your level of conversation is lowered so much.... I so often feel like I am an idiot, unable to properly express herself, or maybe like a 6 years old xD That's tough on your self-esteem, but I guess it contributes to one's own growth.
To me Japanese is kinda a little harder the language has more grammar within it than in Chinese. In Chinese you'll mainly have to work on pronounciation after that it's a matter of memory of vocabulary and very simplistic grammar.
I was forced to learn chinese at young age before I start study Japanese at college. My chinese knowledge actually help me with Japanese at first but when I am become better at Japanese, I found out that I couldn't speak chinese anymore as any chinese words that come to mind would automatically turned into Japanese counter part. I guess I will have to master Japanese to the point that it become second nature before I could learn chinese now.
I have been learning Chinese for 4 years now and I kind of relate to pearl but I really want to do my undergrad in china so I can't stop studying since I need a ridiculous high score in order to enrol into my university.. but man do I also need to brush up on my Japanese since I also want to live there as well 🥲
I find that whatever newish language I study, every time I struggle I end up mixing in Japanese words. The language group doesn’t matter, I’ve done it with Korean and German 😂
5:09 I like how she waited until she passed HSK 6 to take on another language. I waited until HSK 2 and now Korean and Chinese are on the same level 😂 It takes alot of time, plus with work and school, I put one off for the other. Even though I'm taking Korean in college, I changed my mind midway Now , I have to though it out and come next semester, I will be sure to take Chinese. So, I can study Korean on my own but not at the intensity college forces me too. I prefer to learn two to five phrases every two weeks with Korean, based off situations. Like, eating out and buying books. And, how long have you been learning?" For this long and why ? Because of this but that's all I know. Type replies. As for Chinese, I honestly take in more Chinese content than I do Korean. So, I think it would be wise to take the path that Oriental has. HSK 6 then learn Korean by the book
Does anybody know what she mean when she talked about her mom saying they didn't know how to graduate?. This is going to make my mom sound bad but she does care 😂😂 but I was freaking out about my grades and she looked me dead in the eyes said "c's get degrees, calm down"
Outside of language proficiency, you can see Asia taking over Anming's DNA at the 5:56 mark, 'cause she's using the obachan/ojichan stance with the way she's crossing her arms behind her back.. 😂😂
מאוד מעניין! כדאי לילמוד שפות כמו משהו חי. אין ספק. Very interesting! It is worthwhile to learn languages as if they are alive. No doubt. Cheers from the Levant in Western Asia (ישראל Israel)
@@Yimika777 No, Israel, Cool! Perhaps you are thinking of the Western media-created Israel. I live in the real Israel, not the media image. I cannot imagine how your comment pertains to this vlog or my simple comment. Cheers from Israel!
I’m still subscribed but I’m not getting notified about uploads. Not getting anything from any of my Japanese subscriptions Oh!! Congrats on the pregnancy
My language is Maori. I learnt English, Korean, Chinese and now Japanese. All are very different sounding. None are easy. But I found Netflix and other drama sites helpful because certain words become familiar over time. I'm not fluent except for Maori and English. Good luck everyone.👍😀❤️
Japanese grammar is very close to Korean. But there are many similarities between Japanese kanji and Chinese characters. Therefore, native Chinese speakers don't need to spend much effort learning the Kanji part in terms of written expression. For native speakers of other languages, learning Kanji in Japanese is the most difficult.
It depends on where you are and honestly I say if you want to live here then learn the language. The less you know the more inconvenienced and isolated you can become
I didn’t know that your Linguistics Major focus was the Georgian language. Do you mind if I practice what I’ve learned in my own Georgian language studies? “Hey darlin’, how’s your mama ‘nem? I hope she’s doing good, bless her heart.” “Lawd have mercy!” "Y’all, it don't make no nevermind." Do you think this is close to a native level or at least G2?
Anming is one of those UA-camrs who gets hate for the weirdest of reasons. She is just playing the UA-cam game by making her 'They Were Shocked for Really Real When This Gaijokujin Spoke the Nihongo Jouzo' videos, but every now and then I see the same peeps making the same tweets or whatever dragging her. Don't hate the linguist. Hate the algorithm. Moisturised. In her lane. Thriving.
Thank you for being a good friend here in Tokyo Loretta. I hope we can take on some new languages together. 😄
Thanks for sharing the love! Yep, don't you think I'm letting you get away with all that language fun by yourself.
thanks for the tip on waiting till I'm at N2 in Japanese before trying to start Chinese. I was trying to learn them both at the same time and had to give up on Chinese for the time being.
People who come across Japanese are very lucky.
In Japanese, the word itself has power, combined with a spell that ancient people have come into contact with the gods.Produces matter from words. Therefore, don't use bad words. It is hardly understood by modern Japanese.
I respect people who work hard, learning you work full time + being a student as well, much respect.
桂かい枝 優しい 日本語落語 おすすめです
I’m currently learning Japanese and I truly want to learn a bunch of other languages but it’s pretty difficult. I appreciate your transparency about your language journey 💛
"I don't need to feel nervous about what makes me happy anymore" is a real mood.
☝️☝️☝️
I started with Japanese but found I enjoyed listening to Chinese music and dramas then switched over to Chinese. Basically learn a language that you enjoy.
很好
不错
Chinese is such a beautiful language 🖐
@@lycanrocmare2341 NOPE 😂🤣
加油＾０＾~
That really broke my heart that some members of the community felt like they had the right to dictate what you study.
They had no right to harass you like that.
I am glad you felt comfortable to open about this topic. Hope this encourages more people to speak out against this kind of behavior. You have accomplished more with one pinky than those people will with their possessive attitudes.
Watched the video when it came out but had to come back and send my love and support.
Two of my favorite UA-camrs together! :D Loved this so much!
I feel that humbling experience when you start a new language. I've just recently started Russian, and I gotta keep reminding myself that I can't just start having a conversation, that I need to go back to basics and start from scratch x'D Shame to hear about your experience with learning Chinese though, I do hope you give it (or any language) another go.
Вы из какой страны?
@@erturtemirbaev5207 Я из Америки :)
As a russian I am curious why are you learning language of the most despised country in the world at the moment
@@KateikyoshiDX the russian language has just such a wonderful sound. 1 of the best 3 in the world besides french and italian. and the russian anthem is the most marvellous too. There are few countries that could compete with the variety of russian literature and if you are able to you should always read it in the original version.
@@dakotamiller6155 Well, russian sounding cool is your opinion but I wonder what OP thinks and what are his motivations. True, language can be studied not only to work and live somethere, but just to enjoy the culture it is based upon.
Damn i totally felt that. On the flip side, like you said, you're in a good place now. Although the internet can still be cruel, you've grown to be such an inspiration and positive influence that if you do decide to share your journey again, im sure youtube will welcome with open arms. I love the baby bump glow you had going on. ✨️ Tambien tienes español que praticar 🤭
Anming's Chinese was FIRE 😍🔥🔥🔥
It's so aesthetic the way you make videos 🤝🏻😼❤️❤️
Been a fan of Loretta since she uploaded in 360p doing her 自己紹介 when she was in like middle school lmao. So happy to see you and Oriental Pearl doing a video together. Thanks for sharing!
Loved this discussion about Japanese transparency. I've learnt Chinese first well Mandarin at secondary school and I feel like I should go back to it & carry on until a better understanding.
ちょうどいいタイミングで新しいビデオ🥰Thank you!!
Studying multiple languages effectively is so hard. I have so much respect for anyone who's learned a foreign language to a high level and then that much more respect for anyone who went and did it again (like Oriental Pearl). People will say oh, you're good at languages, or now that you know how to study a foreign language, you're able to do it easier. There's a little truth to that but if it were that easy then most people wouldn't stop at one language but go on to three, four etc. They don't. At least not that many. I think that's because more than anything else your passion and motivation for a foreign language is what determines how far you will go. And having that crazy passion and motivation is hard to force. It seems like it's either there or it isn't. Just because you have a foreign boyfriend or girlfriend, or even married them, or moved to a foreign country, doesn't mean as much as you might think when it comes to the motivation required to reach a high level in the new language.
Scusami?? Il tuo italiano è fantastico! I about died when you inserted that clip of you speaking in Italian hahaha made my day.
@7:40 Honestly, your mom is totally right...!!
As someone who was a student for too long, I think for some of us there is a disconnect between school (which we're all sooo used to for so long, due to attending it _at least_ from ~5/6 to ~18 for most of us) and "life after" school. I think some people really do need to learn how to learn without all the structure of formal schooling, _be okay_ with the fact that learning on your own is going to be in some ways less structured and "comprehensive" feeling than learning in school, and do some work to understand how to transition from school-life to non-school-life (for me personally, I could have used a bit more instruction on this while I was in school - I wish I had a seminar or two in high school and then in college on what to expect from transitions between school and work life).
I think that's absolutely worth saying out loud, and maybe something that we need to say more!
What did her Mom mean by that? I didn't understand, even from your comment
Oriental Peral its really nice to see your passion for life, cultures, and people.
Ah! So cool to see you two together!!
I love you guys. I was wondering when you guys would meet up and this was a wonderful insight into language learning - Pros and cons, and the trials of learning. Great video.
Let's all kick the walls together! 💃💃
I believe her when she said there wasn't a lot of Chinese learning content on UA-cam when she had a first started learning Japanese.
Because when I first started learning Chinese two and a half years ago there wasn't a lot of content that I could depend on. So I had used a lot of books through Tuttle and use their audio to learn Chinese.
I swear there were only a few Chinese learning channels until maybe about a year ago. Now, it seems as if everybody is jumping on the Chinese learning wave and I'm thinking that the pandemic had a lot to do with it.
Great to see you ladies sharing both your experiences in learning a language I follow you both !!! 😀😃😄😁🙏🏿🙋🏾♂️🙇🏾
Yess Maangchi!
She's a great channel to have in your back pocket for recipes 😭 I love her simultaneously fiesty and laid back, "go with the flow" attitude. She really makes a lot of Korean dishes feel accessible - like having a sister or aunt teaching you recipes and dishes and tricks while cooking.
How nostalgic to see baby Loretta! I was subbed way back then!!
Omg we go wayyyyyy back!
"Why did I do/say that?? Stupid, s-s-STUPID!" is such a mood even in my mother tongue 😂 I'm 25F and I love you two's channels, I am interested in both Japanese, Korean, and Chinese as well but recently decided to focus only on Japanese for now until I get to an intermediate level. I wish I had friends like you, no one else wants to learn Japanese with me and classes are so expensive 😪
I’d love to learn Japanese with you! Do you have discord?
@@Icarus975 AHHHHHHH HELL NAH
@@DamnAwesome What? I’m being serious I don’t have anyone to learn it with!
あなたが知っているこのあたりで孤独になりますか？
@@Icarus975 I’ll learn with you!
I love you both, God Bless!🙏❤💕 I really love learning about multiple languages and cultures. So excited for this collaboration!^_^🥳🥳🥳💐🎉
Loretta, it's good see you again. I'm happy I stumbled upon this video with you and Anming.👍
Seeing these two 日本語legends together is very exhilarating and motivating!!
I love that you two got to meet & do a video together talking about language learning. I have a very close friend of mine whose dabbling in many languages & since since I had a bad burnout that I’m mo the pandemic I wanted to tackle on wanting to learn more languages in the future. I know it’s not easy & like you mentioned it’s hard when you have other things like work & school but baby steps. I was seriously at it for Japanese during the rona time & got to slowly hit few a good books to motivate reading skills & slowly brushing up on my mother tongue Spanish which needed to be improved & I wanted to for a while. I’m slowly dabbling on Japanese and Spanish again & trying not to force myself more than I can since I recovered from Burnout
Japanese and Korean were fairly easy for me to pick up without formally learning, just listening, but my brain cannot do the same with Chinese no matter how much I hear it😅 like where do you even begin with it??
I remember my first day of learning my prof started us off with the " ma ma ma ma" poem.
Me: I'm doomed💀.
Hehe, I think of the tones as singing/karaoke 🤩
IMO, I think Japanese and Korean share some similar root phonetics, but Chinese is fairly different. It’s like 中文 is C+ and 日本語/한국어 is JavaScript/Python.
It will all make sense after the 1000th one hour episode of dramas.
It will start to click. You will hear everything and understand all that you have memorized.
Then what you memorized , you will automatically understand without thinking about it. You'll just know what it means but for what you didn't study, you will need to view subtitles. 😂
So, yeah about 2 years, but you can very well mimic the accent between 12-18 months.
If you study everyday and study the same book at least 5 times before moving on and view everything in Chinese, then it will click quicker. I promise you.
Awesome video! I just found your channel out through other foreigners that speak Japanese, and I really like your content! I'm going to binge watch a lot of your videos 😅😂
Loretta! Great to watch one of your videos again and though I haven't nearly been ambitious with multiple languages, I definitely found this video valuable. I really want to learn Mandarin now, but with my Japanese probably decaying to N3 or N4 (I never passed N2), I'm not sure if I should beef up my Japanese again or just go straight into Mandarin. Thank you for featuring Oriental Pearl, I'm going to check out her channel
Haha what a throwback! Your “multilingualism” video was the first video of yours that I ever saw. Thanks for the blast to the past.
my situation is the opposite. I'm putting off Japanese because learning Kanji and Hanzi pronunciation simultaneously is too confusing. Sticking to Chinese for now
Hanging out with one of the best, in the wonderful positive Anming.
Having visited your introductory location just before a certain virus hit, happy memories
A great spot to meet a great person!
I like to study two languages at the same time BUT you must be in different levels of each language. I think it's kind good because when I get tired of one of them I can switch to the other and I'll always be studying.
What languages do you study?
@@erturtemirbaev5207 At the moment, just Italian. I studied English and Spanish at the same time some years ago. I started Japanese and Chinese but I've stopped for a while.
@@cleuziosilva7668 OK . Where are you from?
@@erturtemirbaev5207 I'm Brazilian. And you?
@@cleuziosilva7668 nice to meet you. Im from Kyrgyzstan 🇰🇬, central Asia.
Anming!!!! This was so unexpected and awesome!!
I spent a huge amount of my high school years and college years learning German. I felt like I had lost so much but I was listening to an interview with one of my favorite pianists, who happens to be German, and was happy I could remember some words! You are learning, even if it doesn't seem like it.
Very motivational. Thank you so much.
I was watching away and then a Korean advert popped up 🙄. Interesting!! Loved this. Having watched a lot of Korean tv you start to hear the variations of the Korean language on particular words ie Thank you or lets go or go and the amazing thing that 'f' is not a letter as it is represented as 'p'. Whether I learn the language depends when I am happy with my russian and french!! Great interview 🙃
Two of my favorite Japanese language vloggers! omg! happy to see you guys doing collaboration!!! ❤
I didn’t know Anming was from Detroit! That’s so cool, I’m a fellow Detroiter here!!
My older brother always got good grades in school. When we were both adults, he told me that he resented it when people told him that he was smart. He said 'No, I just work hard at it.' I never thought of it that way. When you do well at something, people will say you're good at it, like it was easy for you. I suspect that people who are 'good at languages' are actually just good at applying themselves and persistent. In other words, hard workers.
Love your channel! I’ve been raised speaking Japanese and attended Japanese elementary school. However, I never learned to speak formal Japanese and my vocabulary is very limited since I stopped schooling since 6th grade. I can hold a conversation and travel by myself but I can’t discuss anything other than simple subject matters. Would love to ask what you think the best way to learn would be! Thank you:)
I think joining a team would be great! A sports club, a speaking club, a gym, a part-time or full time job etc. You've already for the fundamentals, you just need a circle of people to echo and expand✌️
@@kemushichan I’m still in the United States so that’s not an option for me 😅 thank you for suggestion though
@@Papayas44444 meetup.com ! Translate on gengo, google Japanese restaurants/grocery stores, city events, festivals, Japan Society, Japan Foundation, your closest Japan sister city, cultural center, etc.
I did this in New York and Virginia by googling what's around. If you're not able to travel to a local hub, try italki/hellotalk, gaming in Japanese (VR Chat). You have to get creative.
Man,I REALLY need to get back on the horse with Japanese(I was even SUPER comfy with Kanji at one point!)
But,it's hard to do when your own damn head is trying to get you commit suicide(among other things)
But god,I really need to get back to learning Japanese again(and I have a whole bunch of languages that I want to learn).
Great to know about your Journey in language learning and reminding us that the struggle is real -_-
Great to see you two together. Thanks for the Lois Lane moment Loretta!
I hear "read all your books in that language" a lot but you have to get to a pretty decent level before you can read even a full page.
I use a Kindle with a Japanese-English dictionary downloaded. When there's a word I don't know, I can just touch it and a translation comes up. It's a great way for making Anki cards, too, because you can highlight and save sentences and then make cards out of them later. So long as you're comfortable with a little ambiguity, it's a great method, even if your level is relatively low.
Hey the dog reminds me of "wishbone" the t.v show awesome!!👍👍
I started Japanese vaguely seriously during the pandemic (couple of community college courses - technically year 1 of Japanese is done --- lies) along with Spanish as my "easy language."
I definitely can sympathize on the language confusion. My strongest language outside of English is French (DELF B2) so it makes my Spanish very French guy speaking Spanish with random French pronunciation or a French word bleeding through here or there.
Because of your initial video and @Oriental Pearl 's coverage reminding me, I'm planning to go to the Akita Inaka school next year.
Thank you. That was useful.
Any pregnancy updates??? 🙏 all continues to be well.
Great video 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻😇🥰
I really need to get back on the horse with Japanese. I've had to take 2 semesters off now. After graduation I'll get back to it. The plan is to transfer to Japan full time in 3-5 years through my job, so I have time, but I also need to learn Chinese (my wife is full blooded, native born Chinese). I feel like I'm going too be learning languages for the rest of my life
Where are you from?
Florida's second language is Spanglish or Creolish, depending on your neighborhood, but when my mind goes blank in Japanese I throw in Spanish words, like it would help.
Honestly in my experience it is nearly impossible to mix up Chinese and Japanese even though I was only barely N3 maybe when I started learning Mandarin. The phonology and grammar are so completely different that it's very, very hard to get anything confused in my experience.
Ahhh watching this really makes me miss the weather in Tokyo so much.
😎😎😎 am I sensing jokes?
@@kemushichan I wish! I live in AZ. It's bone dry and dusty out here. And I know a lot of people won't understand this complaint, but it's just way too sunny here. The sun would be okay if there was an ocean, a breeze and the occasional cloud. But the lack of diversity in weather and the unrelenting heat can be kind of a bummer sometimes. I miss all the seasons and variety of weather that Japan has! :)
@@bapbap2562 I can hear the tourism bureau rejoicing at this comment 🤣
Well I've always thought Anming was cool, when in reality she is just cold. I came here from her channel, but I really enjoyed this interaction about learning multiple languages. I'll be happy if I can carry on a general conversation, and read informational tags in a Japanese museum. Since I've gotten serious about Japanese, I've learned to hate the word fluent, cause I think that's an academic myth word. I'm going for competent in Japanese, because I don't think true fluency is possible. I'm not fully fluent in English, although I have a large English vocabulary. I also found that issues I had learning my native language resurfaced in learning Japanese. Difference is I was surrounded by my native language, and until I can study in Japan, this is not the case.
You guys had great chemistry in this fun and informative video. Anming put on a coat!
Jim's got JOKES😎✌️
Chinese is sooooo much easier for me personally. Of course I studied Chinese first in college. My feeling is that Chinese and American cultures have more similarities as well as we do not tend to be overly shy and feel freer to share our true feelings.
yeah because for chinese, you dont have to worry about the grammar, it's just the tones and the writing that's gonna be tough for an english speaker to pick up unlike japanese which has 3 different writing scripts, totally different grammar and onyomu and kunyomi.
Thanks for the tips, I will try them. I've been studying japanese and esperanto in duolingo. I'm a pretty slow learner but I keep at it because I read somewhere that it's good for the brain. I tried to learn french but I quit because the pronunciation was so hard.
I've always known that I can probably learn one language out of side of English. But trying to learn multiples, l know for a fact I will forget the previous one. Just the endless cycle of me forgetting
I hope you don't mind if I write a few comments while I watch. When I was learning kanji I got easily confused (don't we all?) by Chinese characters or rather when apps used the Chinese version of a kanji for some reason instead of the Japanese one. I remember showing this to my Japanese tutor at school and she was so nice she wanted to agree with me etc but I could tell she just read and understood both of them and didn't worry about it beyond that. After many years of studying/reading Japanese at some point or probably gradually I've gotten to be the same way too.
Thanks for giving Hugo a shoutout! Great video like always! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Big Hugo fan!!!
Two of my favourite expats in Japan!
i'm finnish and i've learned english & swedish (forgotten) at school, and tried to self learn later on japanese (not good with kanji or katakana), korean and chinese (because of c-dramas) ^^' lol
Because There are other priorities than learning random language. I wish more people be more honest and forgiving. I hate people downgrade other people who gave up learning language
I tried on Duolingo and I gave up because of laziness 😅
I kinda wish my mum made stay in Mandarin classes (I took them when I was about 4 and stopped when I was possibly 7). If I had stayed longer and maybe took some more courses throughout my life, I could’ve been pretty fluent
(Currently I’m to improve my French skills)
This was an unexpected surprise! 😄
二人一緒にビデオを作って、本当に嬉しいです。もっとビデオを望みますよ。
This is helpful!
英語と日本語と中国語が話せるなんて、どうしたらそんなことが出来るのか、天才か？
I thought that to learn Georgian all you need to do was add "y'all" to every sentence :-) But seriously, once you learn what passes for an alphabet in the Georgian script, then the real fun begins because kartuli ena is mostly a language isolate and is agglutinative. Best to you, Boomer, Lily, and the baby, Loretta!
U were meeting my fav American who lives in Japan.
Your Italian is very good.
i sometimes want to quit Japanese for theres a lot of mistake writing kanji. so you are great to study the language which native speakers/writers want to throug away.good luck to your study.
Japanese and Korean are rooted in the same pronunciation system which is somewhere in the northeast region in the joint of modern China/N Korea and Russia. The pronunciation system of those 2 languages is actually different from Han Chinese. Yet they learned Kanji and therefore the vocabulary and therefore the culture and knowledge from China a lot, its similar to the situation in Europe in terms of the modern country's relationship with the Ancient Rome empire, only difference is Ancient Rome is gone but China is still here in today. So for modern Chinese, it takes much less effort to us to learn those 2 languages just like if you speak Latin and you figured out the English pronunciation pattern, you figured out much pronunciation of English vocabulary.
Interesting watch.
I've been learning chinese for 2,5 years and I've exposed myself to really unconfotable practicing situations recently. Now I feel 0 motivated to keep on speaking, even though I enjoy learning (and speaking is the most difficult part).
I love oriental pearl, so inspiring
I like her too
"oh no, I am the idiot again"
It made me laugh xD It is so hard when you try to learn a language because your level of conversation is lowered so much.... I so often feel like I am an idiot, unable to properly express herself, or maybe like a 6 years old xD That's tough on your self-esteem, but I guess it contributes to one's own growth.
I've only studied a little Chinese but it does seem a lot harder than Japanese.
To me Japanese is kinda a little harder the language has more grammar within it than in Chinese. In Chinese you'll mainly have to work on pronounciation after that it's a matter of memory of vocabulary and very simplistic grammar.
I was forced to learn chinese at young age before I start study Japanese at college. My chinese knowledge actually help me with Japanese at first but when I am become better at Japanese, I found out that I couldn't speak chinese anymore as any chinese words that come to mind would automatically turned into Japanese counter part. I guess I will have to master Japanese to the point that it become second nature before I could learn chinese now.
I've been to Georgia, it is indeed another language!😉
I have been learning Chinese for 4 years now and I kind of relate to pearl but I really want to do my undergrad in china so I can't stop studying since I need a ridiculous high score in order to enrol into my university.. but man do I also need to brush up on my Japanese since I also want to live there as well 🥲
我学了十年英语也不是很懂
@@sosoable 我真的明白你，我的中文水平是中级但是我也真的听不懂这么多的东西，他们说这么快，我几乎哭了很多次，不好笑
If anyone want to learn multiple languages, go towards French and Spanish. Easiest duo if your English is good.
I find that whatever newish language I study, every time I struggle I end up mixing in Japanese words. The language group doesn’t matter, I’ve done it with Korean and German 😂
5:09
I like how she waited until she passed HSK 6 to take on another language.
I waited until HSK 2 and now Korean and Chinese are on the same level 😂
It takes alot of time, plus with work and school, I put one off for the other.
Even though I'm taking Korean in college, I changed my mind midway
Now , I have to though it out and come next semester, I will be sure to take Chinese.
So, I can study Korean on my own but not at the intensity college forces me too. I prefer to learn two to five phrases every two weeks with Korean, based off situations. Like, eating out and buying books. And, how long have you been learning?" For this long and why ? Because of this but that's all I know. Type replies.
As for Chinese, I honestly take in more Chinese content than I do Korean. So, I think it would be wise to take the path that Oriental has.
HSK 6 then learn Korean by the book
Does anybody know what she mean when she talked about her mom saying they didn't know how to graduate?.
This is going to make my mom sound bad but she does care 😂😂 but I was freaking out about my grades and she looked me dead in the eyes said "c's get degrees, calm down"
Outside of language proficiency, you can see Asia taking over Anming's DNA at the 5:56 mark, 'cause she's using the obachan/ojichan stance with the way she's crossing her arms behind her back.. 😂😂
Respect
מאוד מעניין! כדאי לילמוד שפות כמו משהו חי. אין ספק.
Very interesting! It is worthwhile to learn languages as if they are alive. No doubt.
Cheers from the Levant in Western Asia (ישראל Israel)
ahhh palestine cool
@@Yimika777
No, Israel, Cool! Perhaps you are thinking of the Western media-created Israel. I live in the real Israel, not the media image. I cannot imagine how your comment pertains to this vlog or my simple comment.
Cheers from Israel!
I’m still subscribed but I’m not getting notified about uploads. Not getting anything from any of my Japanese subscriptions
Oh!! Congrats on the pregnancy
The algorithm has JOKES apparently 🤣
My language is Maori. I learnt English, Korean, Chinese and now Japanese. All are very different sounding. None are easy. But I found Netflix and other drama sites helpful because certain words become familiar over time. I'm not fluent except for Maori and English. Good luck everyone.👍😀❤️
Anming 😃😃😃
別にどの言語を勉強しようが自由だよ、そんな事日本人だって分かってるしそれで炎上することはない。ただ東アジア同士歴史的に仲が良くないから、ごっちゃで話されると怒る人いるよね。それは中国や韓国でも同じだと思うよ。結構このタブーやっちゃう外国人いるからね
I think i could learn any language if i lived in the country
No. That is not true
Lol no. You have to put the time and effort into studying it; there's no half assing
Japanese grammar is very close to Korean. But there are many similarities between Japanese kanji and Chinese characters.
Therefore, native Chinese speakers don't need to spend much effort learning the Kanji part in terms of written expression. For native speakers of other languages, learning Kanji in Japanese is the most difficult.
Brava, continua anche con l'italiano!
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Question:If you don't know much Japanese,can you really survive in Japan(like,would you have to confine yourself to Tokyo for example)?
It depends on where you are and honestly I say if you want to live here then learn the language. The less you know the more inconvenienced and isolated you can become
I didn’t know that your Linguistics Major focus was the Georgian language. Do you mind if I practice what I’ve learned in my own Georgian language studies?
“Hey darlin’, how’s your mama ‘nem? I hope she’s doing good, bless her heart.”
“Lawd have mercy!”
"Y’all, it don't make no nevermind."
Do you think this is close to a native level or at least G2?
💀💀wrong Georgiaaaaaaaa
Anming is one of those UA-camrs who gets hate for the weirdest of reasons. She is just playing the UA-cam game by making her 'They Were Shocked for Really Real When This Gaijokujin Spoke the Nihongo Jouzo' videos, but every now and then I see the same peeps making the same tweets or whatever dragging her. Don't hate the linguist. Hate the algorithm.
Moisturised. In her lane. Thriving.