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- Опубліковано 7 бер 2022
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Current succession to the throne:
1. Princess Victoria
2. Princess Estelle (Victoria's daughter)
3. Prince Oscar (Victoria's son)
4. Prince Carl Philip (Victoria's brother)
5. Prince Alexander (Carl Philips' eldest child)
and so on. The list is long.
Of course, this list changes all the time, so when / if Estelle has children, they end up after her, etc. Carl philip, for example, used to be 2nd in succession before Victoria had children
As a Swede, this may be borderline treason; but I'm happy Estelle was their first child, because on that photo Oscar looks like a dork.
Some kids are just funny looking. :D
Prince Carl Philip was born as Crown Prince of Sweden and was robed of his title by common politicians.
Carl Philip was also first in succession when he was first born since Sweden still followed male-preference primogeniture at that time. He stopped being heir when absolute primogeniture became the succession law.
@@TrocaTheNero I might be misremembering it, but wasn't he born between the two parliamentary votes (needed to change constitutional laws)?
So he was pretty much born around the time of the election needed for the second vote (for non-Swedes: to change a constitutional law, the change has to be voted on twice (or voted on and affirmed, I guess?), with a general election between the votes).
I laughed at the 'So that means she is related to.... Europe.' Good reaction!
That’s was funny I gotta admit it. Lmao too accurate.
It´s a big family..
Fun Fact: The House of Saxe-Coburg & Gotha (name of the British royal house before they change it in WW1) is also related to the current king of Sweden. His mother was Princess Sibylla of Saxe-Coburg & Gotha, who is a great-granddaughter of Queen Victoria. This means that the current Swedish king is also a direct decendant of Queen Victoria (her great-great-grandson).
6:40 Wohooo! Götaland! Lets go!
Also: You absolutely nailed the islands. Gotland is green on the map, the blue one to the south-west is Öland and the "weird one", the island in yellow, is Åland which belongs to Finland eventhough they are culturally Swedish
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@@McJibbin this shows more its also from usefulcharts ua-cam.com/video/V-71KyQG7WQ/v-deo.html
@@mariojakel5544 Thanks for the link I will check this one out
There’s this story, most definitely complete fabricated nonsense, but nevertheless amusing:
When Sweden’s new royal family from the Bernadotte line arrived in sweden from France, there had been a severe drought In sweden. Farmers were angry about this and some reason they expected the new King to mend the situation.
So when the new king and queen (Speaking only French and not a word of Swedish) stepped off the boat, they were met by a mob of angry farmers waving pitchforks and chanting:
“Vi vill ha regn! Vi vill ha regn!” (We want rain! We want rain!)
The new Queen, was very happy to see this and proudly wrote to her family back home:
“I was welcomed by a large friendly crowd of locals shouting ‘Vive La Reine! Vive la Reine’ (‘long live the queen! Long live the queen’). They seem to love me already!”
Lmao that’s funny.
Yeah, right.
Desiree would have fallen for that for sure!
The chart is only showing important memebers of the family, Victoria has younger siblings.
Oh that’s probably why a lot of the other relatives weren’t showed. 🤦♂️
Thanks for taking an interest in our Swedish history and our past and present royalties. Best wishes from a native Swede.
23:12 yep, if she was alive today thats probably how she'd be xD
Queen Christina was a real interesting person and one of the most unique and interesting rulers out of all the Swedish monarchs i.m.o
Åland, the island to the north, "is an autonomous and demilitarised region of Finland since 1920 by a decision of the League of Nations." The letter Å is pronounced like the French word for water "Eau", if you speak some French. If not, imagine the first vocal sound in the English "border". The other island you're thinking of starting with the letter Ö, that by the way is NOT the letter O, is Öland. Ö is pronounced a bit like the vocal sound in "burn", "turn" or "work". Or you could paste the word into Google translate and click on the speaker icon on the Swedish side. The guy in this clip pretty much mangles every Swedish word, but it's ok, it's not about language here.
Why talk about french to an english speaker? Å is pronunced like the the oa in oar or the oo in floor.
22:02 Gustavs II Adolf became called the father of the modern warfare due to a couple of things, he had a well trained army with focus on mobilty so he threw away the heavy armor for a lighter setup and ordered the soldier to have ready made paper cartridges and of course his most famous weapon the mobile artillery. He choose a lighter artillery with so called regement cannons that followed the footmen. One of the most famous storys about his voyage into the 30 years war is that he fabricated cannons of stacked leather so it would be lighter on the ships so he could send more of them and have the mobilty.
The pronounciations of names in this videio is wiiild, I would never understand what hes saying if I didnt read it aswell, haha insane BIRGER not birjir, SVERKER not schwerkerr, haha
Love your videos!
Actually, Marshall Bernadotte's son Oscar married Josephine of Leuchtenberg who was a descendant of Gustav Vasa (through his daughter Cecilia).
Correct. That’s one of the main links to the Vasa family.
Josephine was also Empress Josephine's granddaughter. Once again the Bernadottes became entwined with Napoleon's legacy. And it is also how House Bernadotte ended up with most of the French Imperial Crown Jewels. Queen Silvia can often be seen wearing Empress Josephine's tiaras.
The European royals are all surprisingly close, and they communicate with each other a lot. Religious differences mean that Catholic and Protestant lines aren't quite as close, but there are still connections.
I believe all European royals descend from a Dutch Prince about 1740.
most European King House Dynastys strating in a small german or italien Town ua-cam.com/video/V-71KyQG7WQ/v-deo.html
Correct. All current heriditary thrones in Europe (so 7 kingdoms, the grand-duchy of Luxembourg, plus the two principalities Monaco and Liechstenstein) are occupied by descendants from Johan Willem Friso van Nassau-Dietz.
yeh i heard every years they meet somewhere in Europe at some place and have fun with each other lol
Connor, you are spoiling us with these family tree reactions. :)
The current King of Sweden has 11 descendants, so they would all have to be eliminated before they had a problem.
Haha yeah no risk of running out there.
@@Nekotaku_TV Yep definitely not in risk of running out of heirs.
Ok but theoretically if the current king of Sweden had no descendants at all and then died, would that mean the Queen of Denmark is now the queen of both Denmark AND Sweden?
@@McJibbin Theoretically, if enough people died (probably including me), you'd be king of Sweden.
Good luck!
@@McJibbin Well, first of all the current law in Sweden is that future monarchs must be descendants of the current King (Carl XVI Gustaf) so that law would have to be changed.
Then, he has some sisters, so they and their descendants would presumably be next (assuming the changed law was written as such). And then he also has another cousin who is on a more senior line of than the Queen of Denmark.
About the islands:
The first one is Gotland as you said.
The second one is Öland.
The third group of islands is Åland, an autonomous region of Finland.
Thanks, this was fun. Loved your enthusiasm 😃
To simplify, because I don't know the details either, Gustavus Adolphus made two major reforms that earned him the title "Father of modern warfare":
1. Mobile artillery. Before this, cannons had been very large and thus immovable during a battle. He made them small enough to be drag around by a single horse or a small team of men.
2. Mixed training/integration of units. The pike and shot blocks worked with the cavalry firing a volley to soften the enemy line up for a cavalry charge and reloading just in time to cover the cavalry retreat. Rinse and repeat. The cavalry were also trained in operating artillery so instead of just taking out the enemy guns they could take control of them and fire at the enemy from behind.
Fun fact: Napoleon Bonaparte actually studied Gustavus Adolphus and his tactics and very much admired him.
React to more videos on Sweden please. Never stop.
I think he has a plan.
1 - Become a Swede.
2 - Gain enough popularity.
3 - ? [Censored because risk of future treason against King McJibbin]
4 - The entire Swedish royal line is gone.
5 - Get elected King of Sweden.
6 - Profit? (Who cares about profit when they are king?)
Shit Mate! You're really well read and educated. And that you trie to pronounce Swedish is really impressive. Keep up the good job. Michael, Gothenburg/Sweden
You should have a look at who Queen Victorias children married,Europe was dominated by her family at one point
And it's a good way to realize how WWI can be seen as a family brawl getting overboard.
You asked "who was Louise Mountbatten?". She was king Gustaf VI Adolf's second wife. They didn´t have any children, all the children, including the current Swedish king's father (Prince Gustaf Adolf), and the current Danish Queen's mother Ingrid was with his first wife Princess Margaret of Connaught, grand daughter to Queen Victoria of England. She died in 1920 when she was only 38 years old, so she never became queen, her husband became king 30 years later.
Louise Mountbatten was the sister to Louis Mountbatten, 1st Earl Mountbatten of Burma and Alice of Battenburg. Alice of Battenburg was the mother of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh who was married to Queen Elizabeth II of England. So Queen Louise of Sweden was the aunt of Prince Philip in England.
We might add that the Mountbattens chose that nameform when they decided for British alliance. The original form was Battenberg, which was a line of the German House of Hessen.
24:30 Very interesting. Some factoids: the diphthong 'ei' is pronounced more like the 'i' in 'like'. And we have a lot of Germans in here - the Danish dynasties being more northern German, while the sister of Gustavus Adolphus was married in southern Germany. Zweibrücken is a city in Saarland, which was then the western-most part of the Palatinate. And Baden-Durlach was the northern part of the Margraviate of Baden, the southern neighbor of the Palatinate. But Eutin is in Holstein, near to Denmark.
House Bernadotte isn’t from the House of Vasa but they are slightly related because house Bernadotte did marry into the house of Vasa.
All the succeeding ruling Houses of Sweden are direct descendants of the Vasa. The current King is a direct descendant of all Sweden’s kings since 1500 except 5 but 6 if you include his great-great uncle Carl XV of Sweden.
This chart makes the English lines of succession look simplistic.
Sorry Connor, you would'nt be king anyway, you would be prince. Can't marry to a higher title than the queen :)
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@@McJibbin I’ve told you this before in discord as well just saying. 🤦♂️
You can’t rise higher than the bloody monarch or heir of the kingdom.
ok but if someone were to become prince by marrying the next in line to the throne and then eventually become king?
@@McJibbin No man marrying a future queen will ever be king! Queen Elizabeth's husband never became king, neither will prince Daniel when Victoria becomes queen of Sweden. A woman marrying a king or future king will however always be queen. Because in that case, queen is lower in rank than king. The ruling monarch is always higher!
Prince Daniel, he is a "commoner" and have no royal connection before his marriage to princes Victoria.
So you could have a chance there if you where a bit quicker ;)
Our current King Carl XVI Gustaf grew up as the only son and the youngest of five siblings. His father, Crown Prince Gustaf Adolf, died in a plane crash at Kastrup Airport in 1947. Carl Gustaf was then only nine months old and his mother died about a year before he was to become king.
The swedish crown is actually the most secure it has ever been. The line of succession is really long
17:23 "... instead of going so far back the family tree you might as well just pick some rand(om)-"
Not yet, we have to wait a couple hundreds of years from the 1400ds for that to happen but it will happen eventually in Sweden.
26:33 This is it! This is where they choose some random guy! Okay, maybe it wasnt that random but still.
To answer your question, in case somehow the "entire member of the Swedish royal family" died leaving not a single one to survive, not even in the official line of succession (unrealistic but let's say somehow it happened) then it will depend on the parliament's decision whether to look at the Danish royalty, the closest family of the Swedish royal family or to abandon the monarchy entirely.
You are never annoying!
Gustav is Aldolphus changed warfare in many ways. One thing he did was to use lighter artillery that could rapidly be deployed in different places on the battlefield, where it was most needed. Previously, artillery was much heavier and thus used in fixed positions.
In Sweden, until Gustav I (Gustav Eriksson of the house of Vasa) in 1523 we had an elected king. That were usually someone of one of the few powerful families that usually got the upper hand and the throne. After that, the oldest son inherited the throne and since 1977 the oldest child. Nest in line is Crown Princess Victoria.
And no, you wouldn't become king by marrying Victoria. You would become a royal consort and often gain the title of "prince", as her current husband Prins Daniel. Nice try though ;.)
Norway next then?
About Sigismund Vasa. Being both Polish and Swedish I have the history lesson here for you (and having studied both histories).
That Sigismund was Catholic and not OK for Sweden was his uncle's propaganda, who just wanted the throne for himself. Polish and Lithuanian Commonwealth had a lot of religions at that time. It's easy to forget when you look at the small Poland today, that is mostly homogenous population with over 90% of Catholics that it wasn't like that in the past. The Commonwealth was huge at that time and was becoming bigger. Catholic, Russian Orthodox AND Protestant were all present for Christianity. On top of that Judaism and Islam were also there. The Commonwealth was the first Christian nation to have religious freedom as a law. Sigismund, upon entering the throne had to swear that he will uphold the religious freedom of all his citizens.
Hence his uncle lied to the Swedes, and this lie is still believed... for some reason.
Fun fact. The kings of the commonwealth used "King of Sweden" as part of their long title list, for many years to come. Making the Swedes see them as "risk for national security" and pretext to attack Poland, which they did.
Wait did the video forget about Charles the twelfth/Carolus Rex? I feel like it did because I didn’t hear him mentioned even tho he was very influential for us. If he wasn’t mentioned wtf that’s a big screw up considering he was the King of Sweden during the great northern war against Peter the great of Russia.
Dynastically speaking he wasn’t that interesting though. He didn’t marry anyone and had no children.
The cursor points at him at 24:00, but they made a mistake calling him Charles XII Gustaf, when he was just called Charles XII (Karl XII) or Carolus Rex.
Thank you! This was fun. 🙂
Sorry; even if Victoria divorce Daniel and you will marry her, you will just be a prince, not a king….
As the video says, if our current King, AND Victoria dies, princess Estelle is next in line, then her siblings. If all of them dies, then the crown passes to the former crown-prince Philip. If he and his family dies, then it would pass to the youngest child of our current king, princess Madeleine. Only if she and her family is also "taken out", would we go back 1 step before our current king. Don't know if it would be Margaret per se, or someone else descending from the current King's sisters (I think he had 4 of them in total).
No, neither the sisters of king Carl XVI Gustav or the children of his aunt queen Ingrid of Denmark (i.e. queen Margarethe II of Denmark and her sisters) have the right to the Swedish throne. Before 1980 females were excluded from inheriting the Swedish throne due to the Salic law ruling the 1810 Swedish order of Succession. In the change made in 1980 in the first paragraph of the Swedish Order of Succession, where both male and female children can inherit the throne, only the descendants of the present king, Carl XVI Gustav, have the right to inherit the Swedish throne. If he and all his children and grandchildren were to die, then the Swedish Riksdag (parliament) would have to decide whether to chose a new monarch, or most likely, if Sweden was to become a republic.
@@helgap2921It would be a monarchy. There is a provision many people don't know, but Carl XIV John gave the Swedish Government a loan, which helped the decimated economy of Sweden when Gustav IV Adolf lost Finland. The loan was never paid back to the Bernadotte. This loan was never paid to the Bernadotte Dynasty, and his descendants could easily claim payment, but could you imagine, with today’s inflation, what it would cost? This loan was an agreement never honored by Sweden’s government.
Damn, didn't know we mixed so much, but that's nice. Even more connections to Russia. And our queen is German.
43:53 Hahaha.
During the War of the 6th Coalition, Bernadotte had a devil of a time keeping his Allies to their treaty obligations. Metternich of Austria in particular tried to rob Sweden of its prize of Norway despite the Swedes having held up their end of the bargain, and more, during the fight with Napoleon. Bernadotte formed the 6th Coalition to defeat Denmark as his primary policy goal, and to push the French back to France as a secondary goal. The Battles of GrossBeeran, Dennewitz and Leipzig were outside this scope and fought at great risk to his irreplaceable Swedish expeditionary corps. Metternich never liked Bernadotte as a former Revolutionary General. And he intrigued to help Denmark and stick it to the parvenu King. He failed, but not after a lot of bad blood between the Austrians and Prussians and the Swedes. To add further insult, the restored Bourbons continuously snubbed Bernadotte after he became King and openly intrigued with the exiled Vasas. All the old dynasties viewed him with contempt. But, it seems, he has had the last laugh. The Hapsburgs, Hohenzollerns and (mainline) Bourbons rule no where while his dynasty is still going strong in Sweden, and his descendants sit on the thrones of five nations.
Didn't Bernadotte, when he accepted the Swedish offer, think that Sweden might be a stepping stone to returning to France, as emperor after Bonaparte was defeated?
@@marianneskanland310 It was a possibility. He had a lot of support in and out of France for it. After 200 years, Bernadotte's reputation has been diminished by a very real effort to paint him in worst light. But, at the time of Napoleon's coup, Bernadotte and he were the two most likely to lead France as both were very popular generals *and* politicians. There was always support for Bernadotte in more liberal circles of French society that persisted into the Empire. Combined with Bernadotte's very well known talent as an administrator of large territories, he was always an alternative to Napoleon. Napoleon himself recognized Bernadotte's unique talents and between 1800-1809, Bernadotte was kept by Napoleon as a possible heir to the throne because he recognized that Joseph was inept, Murat was too frivolous, Eugene not experienced enough, and Hortense's sons were too young. Before Napoleon left for the Marengo Campaign he wrote a letter to Bernadotte making it clear that he was to secure France in the event of his death, and to protect the Republic and the Bonaparte family. He left Bernadotte with 40,000 troops not far from Paris, as Commander-in-Chief of the Army of the West, to act with had things gone poorly. Bernadotte was also very popular with the rest of the Bonaparte family, who would have, and actually did in 1814, looked to him for protection in the event of the worst happening.
So, even after Bernadotte became Crown Prince he was seen as a possible successor to Napoleon by many in France. Alexander of Russia was also a great champion of Bernadotte's claim to the throne and encouraged him to pursue it. During the 1813-1814 Campaigns, Madame De Stael, Schlegel and Benjamin Constant, leaders of the French and European Liberals very heavily supported Bernadotte as the Liberator of Europe and as King of France.
So, Bernadotte was not insensible to the prospect. And it is thought his plan if it came to pass was to rule in France, retain his Swedish and Norwegian crowns, and have Oscar rule as his Viceroy in Sweden and Norway. It would have been a sort of Bernadotte Empire with the combined might of France, Sweden and Norway ruled via constitutional monarchy.
However, while it is true that Bernadotte hoped for the French crown, he ultimately kept his eyes on Sweden through out the whole turbulent period between Leipzig and the Restoration. Many of Bernadotte's detractors have accused him of pursuing this dream at Sweden's expense, but his policies and actions demonstrably prove this as false. He pursued his War with Denmark doggedly and held on to his Norway policy like a pit bull, antagonizing the Austrians heavily.
The biggest indication of his half-hearted pursuit of the French throne was his complete inaction in the spring of 1814. If he wanted the throne, and as Alexander counseled, he should have invaded France with his considerable Army of the North and taken Paris. As the liberator of France, and controlling Paris, he could have taken the throne and would have had Russian support. But, he did nothing but idle in Liege as the drama of the 1814 Campaign came to a conclusion. After Paris fell, Alexander bid him to come to Paris to pursue the throne, but Bernadotte stayed away until after the Bourbons were restored. Ultimately, his absence pretty much guaranteed the Bourbon restoration despite the lukewarm reception Louis XVIII received... Alexander despised the Bourbons as having learned nothing. Bernadotte was a very canny politician and I think he understood that despite his support from the liberals and Republicans, the average Frenchman greatly resented him for leading the Coalition. His popularity in France plummeted once his armies engaged the French in the fall of 1813 and his best chance at claiming the throne, by being the first in Paris, came and went.
So, sorry for the novel, but long-story short, yes there was support for his claim, he was aware of it, entertained it, but in the end he did not press the claim.
But one wonders how history changes if he had claimed the throne and a liberal Bernadotte Empire reigned.
Please see if you could watch cousins at war a two part program on the first world war and how queen victory's children and grand children were involved x it's a good learning documentary
i have followed my heritage to 10:century and my name would be bagge af berga comming from a line called "wolf something" just dont remember right now. my grandmother would be the last from the spin side that called them selves bagge af berga, af and av is the same as from or close to like fon vin or even from or like "da" on italian that means comming from the region of some place.
da vinchi is from the region of vinchi.
I love how he butchers the prononuciation and you mimic it
I agree, that remains funny, somehow the British and Amercian make everything sound english, whether its Swedisch, German, French or whatever.
Netherlands next?
Our house has many more heirs to the throne then Queen Victoria she has siblings and children we aren’t in any worry of running out heirs for the Bernadotte dynasty.
The others just aren’t visible in the vid.
Ok but if She did not have siblings and did not have children, and after she passed away, would denmark then be queen of both denmark AND Sweden?
@@McJibbin if King Carl XVI Gustaf and all his children and grandchildren somehow passed away in quick succession.. the throne would pass to one of king Carl's sisters or their children or grandchildren etc. (he got 4 living sisters, who each have children of their own.)
And IF they also somehow died... then, they would look at King Carl's father's siblings, their kids, and grandkids etc.
If they also died... then! Then perhaps the danish Queen would get a chance at the swedish throne. Gods forbid.
@@w0t3rdog Don't jinx it ffs. No more Danish rule over the Swedes!
Well, I'd like to say hi from Gotland and also tell you that the medieval history here is pretty thick. You should really check it out mann. We have so many archelogical fids here we cant even cover them all so you could basically walk into an elderly persons home and find stoneage arrowhead, axes, medieval swords, helmets you name it. The wall of Visby is still standing and also hundreds of churches some dating back to when vikings became christians. The church in the area i grew up had its roof made by turning a viking longship upside down and slapping it on there but nnow protected under a modern roof. If you wanna know more just ask :)
Do German monarchies next.
The throne would probably go to Victorias daughter Estelle.
Yep.
Geeze… Im Swedish and that was even complicated for me 😂
Öland, Åland and Gotland
I clicked into a UA-cam video yesterday called healthy vegan vs unhealthy vegan shocking experiment it would make an interesting reaction video
When you know the current king of sweden is a descendant of a French general of Napoleon
One of Napoleon's great marshals 😢😞
The Swedish royal emblem still has a Napoleonic Imperial Eagle in it which is pretty of neat. As well as the shields of House Bjälbo and Vasa.
I live on Gotland. Cool too see AmeriCANS recognizing it :) Tons of History on my island. Visby (our biggest city) is a well preserved beautiful medieval city-port. It was considered to be in Game of Thrones, but they decided not to shoot here in the end sadly.
Yeah, and Russia be creeping around looking for a way in 👀 😂 no but it would have been cool to see it in GoT but I guess it's too expensive to shoot here + the amount of permits I'd assume one needs for everything here lmao. Also Union workers and fair labor laws isn't something that the us wants in general 😂 I can see why we would be Hollywood's worst nightmare lol
@@loveitftw yeah they've been in our airspace multiple times and seen on water outside our coast.. I think it's just a matter of time until they take over the Island sadly.
No contaminated inbred Habsburg blood in Scandinavia 😂😂😂
There was a member of parliament (2006-2014), Walburga Habsburg Douglas, who is a member of this family though. Her granpa was Charles I of Austria.
Dont worry if these charts are a bit hard to follow at first mate - even us Brits who are way more intellegent than you American guys find them quite complicated sometimes - love your channel
Louise Mountbatten was aunt to Prins Philip Mountbatten queen Elisabeth II husband :)
33:30 no King Carl XVI has grandchildren
The historical aspect aside, I find the part where you quickly get up from the chair to grab a big container of water early on in the video pretty interesting. Going out on a limb here and deriving quite a bit from the subject of the video, but please bear with me... I've been to the U.S. quite a bit at this point, 99% of the time for work. I always do my due diligence regarding tap water, and the information I receive back is pretty much always the same: Don't drink it; it's not really that safe. Water bottles are a great asset, not the least in the times of Covid when you, of course, want to stay safe and ensure that you are exposed to the least amount of cross-contamination possible. However, these plastic bottles are also one of the worst perpetrators when it comes to microplastics. Don't get me wrong, Swedes consume quite the number of plastic bottles per year, but then we try to counter that with our recycling system, where you get between 1-2 SEK back for every bottle you recycle. Yes, that amount was already paid for when you bought the bottle, but who keeps track of that? No Swede that I know, at least. However, when you go to the grocery store for your weekly shopping and start it off by recycling, and you get a 100 SEK back from that, well, it's quite a nice bonus to cut off from your final cost of the shopping.
This is a complex (but not complex) system, and I realize that this isn't really the place for it, but still... A higher income tax percentage allowed a better standard of public water, which in turn heavily reduces our dependence on environmentally hazardous plastic bottles. But, if we want to buy those bottles (for water, soda, beer, wine, hard liquor, or whatever), then we usually get a small amount back when we make sure to recycle them.
I am aware that some states in the U.S. have adopted a similar recycling system, but I know it's not as widely implemented as the Swedish recycling system. And in the end, the problem would be much less prevalent if the U.S. had better drinking water right out of the tap.
So yeah, there are my two cents on an unrelated topic late Friday night. Thanks for the videos, and keep it up! :)
You seem to have a useful way of digging into various types of information.
Yes, various members of the present royal houses of Europe, whether still in state function or not, are all related, usually related 'several times' through various lines and intermarriages. Note especially that there are umpty German royal or high-aristocratic houses, something that had a lot to do with German rules of land inheritance favouring a lot of subdivision.
You might have fun looking up the Leuchtenbergs too. They descend from emperor Napoleon's first wife Joséphine in her first marriage (before Napoleon). They married into European royalty also, e.g both German and Swedish.
- That guy commenting on the tree has an awful pronunciation of many German and Scandinavian names. He makes a few strange formulations. One is that the adopted Swedish crown prince Karl Johan led a short war against Norway, which the commenter says led to Norway leaving the union with Denmark and joining Sweden. - In fact Norway had no choice; we (I am Norwegian) had constructed a constitution (the leaders of the work were well informed, and much of the constitution was based on the American and the French) - and in the constitution had declared ourselves independent, choosing a Danish prince to be our king, but had to accept being given away to Sweden, or rather to be the personal property of the Swedish king. It is quite a question whether Norway was at that time (in 1814) in economic shape to be able to make independence work well. Of course Karl Johan became king when the old king died, and he was a good king for Norway, in my humble opinion. He was opposed to the Norwegian parliament on many issues, but things could have been far worse. For one thing, he took care in that war NOT to deal harshly with the Norwegians, since he was going to rule Norway and wanted a good relationship to the Norwegians. (Rather differently from the way Putin is dealing with the Ukraine and the Ukrainians.) The main street of Norway's capital Oslo is called Karl Johan's street. It leads up to the fairly unostentatious royal palace. The construction of the palace was started by king Karl Johan. And there is an equestrian statue of king Karl Johan in front of the palace!
Your reactions are so funny, i have to stop the video sometimes to laugh!!. I guess being from the USA this all sounds like an unbelievable fairy tale, even though you seem to have a lot of knowledge on both Europe and it's history.
Hahah Kingdom of Finland spotted :D
Hello again, Connor. You don't seem very active in the comments section; maybe you have lost interest in this thread?
I cannot quite resist, though, telling you - if you haven't noticed already - that with a commentating prince of Ponte Corvo in the thread, we seem to have got into extremely exalted circles! Chuckle, world history! If Crown Prince Sebastian Johan is who and what he says, he is related both to Napoléon and to the Swedish royal house of Bernadotte! It seems the genealogies go like this
(you can easily check in Wikipedia etc whether I am right, look up the different "Lucien, 3rd Prince Murat", "Joachim, 4th Prince Murat" and so on; for example, Prince Lucien Charles Joseph Napoléon (1803-1878) was 3rd Prince Murat and 2nd Prince of Pontecorvo):
The title of duke/prince of Pontecorvo was after some 'shuffling' given to Joachim Murat (1771-1815), who was one of Napoléon's generals and married to Napoléon's sister Caroline. Their descendants go in a straight line down to the present 8th Prince Murat, and his son and heir, Joachim Prince of Pontecorvo.
So the Murat family is related to Napoléon.
Now Joachim the 4th Prince Murat (1834-1901) married one Malcy Louise Caroline Berthier de Wagram, a daughter of Zénaïde Françoise Clary, who was a niece of Désirée Clary. Désirée was the one who was first engaged to Napoleon, but nothing came of that and instead she married Jean Baptiste Bernadotte and therefore became queen of Sweden. So the following Murat generations have the Clary family in their ancestry too, just like the present royals of Sweden.
Crown Prince Sebastian Johan seems very knowledgeable indeed (forgive me, I have not checked up at all but it sounds realistic). The only curious thing is that with all the information on the web about the Murat family (who still use the Pontecorvo title, though it is not officially an aristocratic title any more, apparently), the succession seems full of Joachim's, no "Sebastian Johan" among them. The present title-holding Prince Murat is Joachim 8th Prince Murat, and his heir is Joachim Prince of Pontecorvo (who has a son less than a year old). You can look it up! So who is our impressive co-commentator? - Anyway, he is certainly right about king Carl 14 Johan's descendants sitting on five European thrones; Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Belgium and Luxemburg.
Shit this is complicated, and I'm a swede interested in history :)
Nah it’s easy just study it for a few years. lol 😆
5:51 swedish is not german, if you don't know the language, just pronounce it in english and not in german
Viktoria could rule the world
And in this time the province of Skåne was selfruling. Very important to know. And the king today in Sweden is a french who's forefather swore to learn swedish as a condition to be king. He never did, they wrote his speeches with french letters to sound swedish. So we do not recognize this king and neither should the swedes.
26:25 And there you say something incorrect I’m why am I not surprised?
Napoleon never hated Bernadotte for his betrayal he was actually rather understanding of why he turned on Napoleon something I’ve explained to you Connor many times in the past. A few of the other Marshall’s however did not forgive Bernadotte but Napoleon certainly had no ill will towards him in the end.
If you don’t remember when I’ve explained why Napoleon didn’t consider him a traitor etc that’s not my fault but both Light and me did explain it to you in the past Mcjibbin.
😪 I realized after I said it I made a mistake ok ok I understand! 😅
Very correct! I mean, it was Napoleon that attacked Sweden first. What did Bonaparte expect? It was a huge, pointless mistake on his part. Bernadotte was a key part of Napoleon's fall.
@@McJibbin There is a new video out on Bernadotte. It is well done, though it understates Bernadotte's achievements. Might be worth reacting to: ua-cam.com/video/qHVnnxWfNjA/v-deo.html
habsburgs were a catholic dynasty so they were not likely to intermarry with northern european royalty.
You wouldn’t be king if you married Victoria anyway, you’d be a prince since the title of king is above queen. We won’t have a king for a long time when our crown princess becomes queen since her oldest child is a daughter. I hope her daughter’s first child will be a girl, it would be fun if we could have three queens in a row (or more) and no king.
Titles are fun. Sometime after the Polish House of Piast died out they dragged in a little girl from Hungary to become what we would today call "Queen of Poland", she could not be called Queen. The title Queen at that time meant what we would today call "Queen consort" - aka the King's wife. And thus could not rule a country. So the little girl got the title of King. It's visible on her old portraits, where it says Rex (king), not Regina (queen). She also became king of Hungary. (This is overly simplified).
The whole story can be read here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadwiga_of_Poland
So how does anyone become part of Swedish royalty?
@@McJibbin It depends on if you just want to marry someone in that family, or if you want to have a title. Or even if you want to marry someone in straight line to the throne.
the Crown Princess is probably too old for you (she's in her 40s), her children are instead too young for you ;). However, if you don't mind marrying someone much older than you, you might always hope for her marriage not being too stable.
Viktoria's current husband used to be her PT (as in he was just a common/normal Swedish guy). To be allowed to marry her, he had many years of training and schooling. Being a prince in the royal family is a job - you need to know how to do it to not cause scandals.
If you just want to marry into the family without having a title (circumvent the approval system), it's easier to achieve. That family member has to abdicate their right to succession.
Viktoria's youngest sibling is married to a rich Brittish/American guy. I don't think he even has a title at this time.
@@McJibbin If you marry anyone of the princesses you become prince, that’s your only chance. A king or queen has to be born into the family, unless the king appoints you for some reason, like if there was no heir and you were the best choice in his opinion.
That's what we had in the Netherlands, 3 queens in a row in the past 100 years or so until our current King ascended the throne in 2013. The first of the 3 queens (Wilhelmina) even had her mother Emma be regent for her the first 8 years until she was 18, so we sometimes say we had 4 queens, from 1890 to 1980, as Wilhelmina was followed by her daughter Juliana and then her daughter Beatrix.
Why just Europe?
The Useful charts site has asian and other charts. Just the European monarchs are the ones who are interrelated enough to make one big chart containing them all.
I'll do other continents too
Pls do not learn more about our recent kings, they are not much to brag about.