@@Bobby11 well it didnt pick him up but that also meant he went past the pits before the FIA figured out that the clear SC was a SC. because they are still french at heart and will never do a good job.
@@l.jboylan6704 thats just not true though it did pick him up he just was to close to the pits when the safety car call came so he had to go around again
@@Bobby11 if you watch Peter Windsor, the og f1 pundit, according to him Lando couldn't have won, even without the safety car blocking him because in the latter quarter of the race Max had pace, and even when Safety car bunched them together and brought Lando right back in, Max simply pulled away.
Villneuve wasn't wrong for the first half of his comment. But he undermined everything by claiming Danny was never good to begin with. If Danny had never been good, his drop in form wouldn't be notable.
Had a look at JV's career stat's, Danny Ric is 3 wins behind and has 10 more podiums. JV needs to pull his head in, a weak Champ if ever there was one.
He was wrong to say he didn’t beat anyone since RedBull. He actually only lost to Norris and with Tsunoda we have to wait until the end of the season he is been better in the four races for sure and three or four weekends last season but its still not a good sample to judge both of them.
He also had 4 stops, where everybody else only had 3. If Haas had let Hulk hold everybody back like Mag did for him and he had a prober pit stop then i could have achived so much more
I don’t get this Logan - good qualifying, made error on his own - score 1 and 2 Carlos - bad qualifying, made error on his own, swiped another driver - score 3 (corrected from 4) What?
@@bill0g Carlos got 3 (from both) I'd give him a 2, but you can say Logan had a good quali on his standards, but the gap to Albon was bigger than Sainz's gap to Lec. Also Sarg made 2 big errors during the race, Sainz only 1
Wholeheartedly agreed. Logan wasn't the only one who took himself out, he got into Q2, he outqualified Perez (who also took himself out ) and when he did take himself out he only took himself out, not another driver too. I commented on the race review that he is getting a bad rap just because he keeps getting a bad rap. He actually did better in this race than a Red Bull, and arguably better than a Ferrari. And yet he gets a 1 and a 2. Smh
Think they should just do random ratings, might actually be more accurate, ie take a driver's name then him a random number generator and mark them that that way. How in the hell was Alonso rated 9 by both, ridiculous. 7 at best, ditto for his team mate. All these scores are way too high tbh.
eddy jordan recently said, i did have senna in my team and also schumacher and i think in the same car verstappen would beat them. max is talent + hard work. he is simracing at the highest lvl while relaxing
I think it's worth mentioning that Max not only won the race in such messy conditions, but also did with no help from teammate at all. While Mclaren and Mercedes can play a split strategy with both cars in the front, Max has no space to make mistakes. It makes his win even more incredible. Also for Zhou, yes he did a poor weekend, but without that 50 seconds pit stop he'll be much closer to the pack and maybe not that deadly last
Alonso 9, Stroll 8... Ricciardo 8? Ricciardo qualified P5 (less than 2 tenths off pole) ahead of Alonso, then lost places at the start and got a 5 second penalty (due to car clutch issues), and still managed to get points at 8th just behind the Astons. He also overtook Ocon quickly right after Yuki's spin. How is Alonso rated higher and Stroll rated the same? Ricciardo hasn't had a consistently impressive season thus far, but this weekend was one of those great ones. Should have been a 9.
I personally would of given Daniel a 9. Great qualifying! Unlucky penalty as the team said it was a clutch issue (not actually Daniel’s fault) A few drivers didn’t pit under safety car which lost him more track position (after serving penalty) was also over 5 seconds ahead of tsunoda so even if he also pit Daniel would of still been ahead. And then he still finished in the points. Was a solid drive from Daniel where he didn’t make any mistakes as the start wasn’t his fault and picked up solid points. Maybe could have finished 1 place higher without the penalty due to losing so many places earlier on but realistically what else could the RB have done. He was never finishing ahead of max, McLaren, merc or Alonso
Oscar has some of the hardest placements to watch as a fan. He's always either 4th or 5th, just slightly not reaching that podium. Like he's doing amazing but just missing out on that podium over and over again
All Oscar have to fix is tht he have to fix his tyre managment issues he has grt quali pace and above average race pace too his problem is due to his poor tyre management his pace won't go so bad the last 10 lap
@@aspect359Well, there IS another thing Oscar might want to change about his current driving style. He’s more hesitant to attempt an overtake than Lando is. Of course, this may be more from Oscar’s inexperience compared to his teammate, but I do genuinely think Oscar is developing the skill to challenge Lando slowly but surely for his leadership spot… but currently, Oscar seems a bit too hesitant when overtaking opportunities come up. But I think once he gets a bit more time under his belt, Oscar is going to be a force of nature to contend with.
@@trevinodudeafter that move around the outside on sainz in monaco, I wouldn't exactly call him a hesitant overtaker. In fact his racecraft is very aggressive, doesn't yield too. Like against sainz at miami and Russell at Canada.
@@trevinodude Funny how people have different perspectives. Oscar struck me as willing to race from his first grand prix for McLaren. He has had good overtakes and solid defence.
There's quite a few fans that hate him and will rate him low just because of that. Giving Magnussen and Hülkenberg the same rating this race doesn't make any sense. And in Imola where Magnussen was clearly better I think they even rated him lower than Hülkenberg. It's pretty silly tbh.
@@Vlad-sj5yw I’ve noticed that too and it’s unfortunate. He may he a menace on the track sometimes, but everyone loves the entertainment value it brings.
@@Vlad-sj5yw was Kmag clearly better in Imola? I remember them being fairly similar but Kmag was on the optimal strategy and Hulk on the weaker one (reacting to the early VCARB pitstop)
Yes but even before the stops he was a decent margin behind Bottas in P20, I saw the race live an Zhou was nowhere the whole weekend. By far one of his worst showings in his time in F1. Reminded me of Latifi in Miami 2022, so far back we clapped for them.
Giving Sainz a 3 is crazy to me (including from the fans). Terrible qualifying, terrible race, took another driver out while binning it himself. Perez got a 0 for having not one good moment over the entire race weekend + Logan got a 1/2 when he actually did a great quali. Sainz should have been a 1 maximum - due to the Ferrari car being poor this weekend (imo).
Both a 1 for me. I keep the 0 for drivers who take half the grid out of the race grosjean style for no reason while bleing slow af and getting a race ban, dsq or something like that.
Fred Vasseur said that Carlos had floor and wing damage from a collision with Bottas which occurred before Carlos spun and unfortunately gathered Alex up with him.
Rubbish. He made less mistakes than Lando and Norris should’ve won the race but didn’t. People need to be able to tell the difference between a failed overtake and a mistake.
Crylonso can’t handle it any better then since that FRAUD couldn’t achieve a pole or win with the rocket ship he had last season whilst Russell put that tractor on pole twice…😂😂😂
@@gameofender4463 What were those mistakes from Lando? George lost places first to Max and then Lewis by cutting the chicane in the last corner despite being able to recover that place back from Lewis.
@@soundscape26 Bottled it into turn one and had to go across turn two, should’ve been on the front row but wasn’t, and locking up into the hairpin which cost him 2nd to George before George had his wet track moment like a lot of the others did. And on the one where George lost position to Max. We all know that these cars are terrible braking really close to each other as you have no front grip/downforce if you’re under the rear wing of the car in front. So George had to take the escape road and lose position to Max or potentially lock up into the wall or ruin his tyres.
Daniel had a slow pitstop, bad strategy - lost track position with the pitstop when others stayed out, and 5 second penalty from a false start that wasn't his doing that ruined his race basically. Add to that the VCARB starting issue which cost him and Yuki multiple positions at the start. Having basically given up with a hope of points, he came home with 4 points when he passed Ocon for 8th
Ricciardo demolished Tsunoda on pace in the race, VCARB strategy left Yuki in 7th and him down in 12th and he closed up that entire distance AND got by Ocon for good measure
Agreed, and yet... ALO 9, STR 8... RIC 8? How? RIC should be at least a 9 given the other driver ratings. I think qualifying P5 and 2 tenths from pole also merits at least a 9.
Albon's overtake was beautiful to watch, but we need to acknowledge Ocon and Ricciardo's awareness to let him through, could have easily been 3 cars out koz Alex is not fully in control under breaking. Also, Yuki was overtaken by Ocon and defended Ricciardo like crazy, but once DR was by he caught and overtook Ocon in like 3 laps
Yuki throwing it off track actually got VCARB more points, weirdly They were 9th and 10th, which is 3 points, and we from Bahrain that Yuki would get angry and ignore team orders (that’s why they said to Ric “attack him”) Instead Yuki finally got out of the way, allowing Ricciardo to get past Ocon and take 8th, which is 4 points
They didn’t show the midfield enough so it’s easy to miss it, but Tsunoda wasn’t “stuck” behind Ocon, it was Ocon that had actually passed him for position, he was going backwards
Zhou: *Spinning TWICE in the FPs* Sargeant: "Challenge accepted." Seriously, though, Zhou really needs to put himself together. I'm his fan, and there are a thousand reasons I'm tempted to say about why he didn't deliver. But at the end of the day, none of them matters unless he can prove himself Somewhere.
It was the dumbest decision. They should have gone in right after they pitted. He was gonna be able to get away with that first lap on inters but they waited a lap too late and that’s what cost him I think
@@imliterallyjustjake Absolutely horrible quick decision moment. Two reasonings that could have led them to this bad decision: - track position if others wouldn't pit, which naturally they would pit. (Mercedes type reasoning) - If safetycar was slightly faster, he would have a free slightly fresher set of tyres on.
Absolutely abhorrent from the McLaren team! Any time that there's the potential for a safety car you need to be prepared to make the split second decision to pit!
It amazes me when we talk about F1 teams not being ready for a pit stop. I worked on an ALMS championship winning team and whenever a yellow came out we always had the pit crew up and ready to go. I would think with the brain trust that is in F1 they would have a more efficient way to getting the tires to the car instead of three or four guys dodging around the garage trying to get the correct set into pit lane.
I agree with you about Max. One of the best drives in many years in his career. The car was awful on that circuit. I was a Red Bull Paddock Club guest and had the team’s radio so I heard the communications between Max and Checo and the pit wall after it was shut off to the public. The drivers bitterly complained about how bad the car was and how poorly it handled and their lack of confidence in it. And despite that, just a few hours later, Max qualifies P2 and goes on to win. Absolutely remarkable. In most other drivers’ hands, that was no better than a P8-P10 car. And I’m not even a Red Bull fan. I’m really a fan of Aston Martin, Ferrari, Williams and Lewis, Fernando, Charles, Carlos and Alex. But you have to respect true talent, and Max showed us just how great a driving talent he really is when he does not have a winning car. He’s on the level of the very very best drivers who have ever driven in the sport.
Ricciardo actually overtook Ocon on track 3 laps before the checkered flag the amount of misinformation in this video is insane. They didn’t ask Ocon to let Gasly through MANY LAPS BEFORE since he was actually in front of Ricciardo and Danny was chasing him and got him at the end. The Alpine call was purely to give Gasly more points.
Alonso got a 9 instead and he was outqualified by Ric and barely beat Stroll make that make sense. Your nale gets you free points or negative points I feel in this podcast
Russell made a lot of mistakes that Max used to make before he won his first WDC. He was just trying too hard to win the race, which wasn't necessary as it probably would've come to him had he been a bit more patient at times.
@@BwInNewJersey according to "The Race" (so you can't deny, they have data, specialists and people actually inside Paddock, cry more if you can't admit), Red Bull got the 2nd fastest car, tail to tail with McLaren.
@@BwInNewJersey The handling made if feel like it was battling with Mercs for 2nd fastest, I honestly thought that RB was behind the mercs, qualifying that Merc looked like a rocket, race pace, I thought Max should've finished 3rd or 4th behind McLaren & Merc. He definitely got more out of that car than he was supposed to because the cornering was just poor.
@@11bornrichthe cornering was also not poor why everyone believes the redbull isn't the top team anymore is only because of sergios insanely bad perfomance mostly in Canada max was saying the suspensions were locked meaning it was very stiff this is a thing tht they have to do to maximise the cars perfomance aftr the race horner talked about it if u need to win raced and have the fastest car rn they have to make some sacrifices . Why he felt it more this race was because Canada was a bumpy track and not a track where redbulls very good at so while max may feel the suspensions to be bad it gives the car more perfomance
Third fastest car that was faster in Q1, joint fastest in Q3. And won the race by 6s. Lmao. The Max hype is insane, just because he complains about imaginary problems all the time. Is Lewis suddenly a tire magician because of “Bono the tyres are gone” when he’s out of the pitlane? It seems Russell needs to start complaining about his car. Alonso, Lewis, Verstappen all the same complains when they’re winning with ease are regarded as the greatest. While drivers like Russell, Vettel, etc who don’t say anything publicly aren’t.
How do you even rank Bottas this season… Like he’s crushing his teammate, but the car is so trash that it seems impossible to do anything in it. Really wanna see him in like a Williams
@@066kshitizvsingh4 except you can actually see his car is a handful and extremely difficult to drive. Compare his onboards this season to last season and check how many micro corrections he's having to make on the steering whereas last year it was one smooth motion as if the car was on rails. If Redbull manage to resolve the issues they have with the suspention and give Max a car he can drive to the absolute limit again its curtains for everyone else that's even thinking about winning a race.
22:58 How the same as Russell when Russell qualified and finished ahead? Lewis couldn't get past Alonso in a much slower car and had to rely on jumping him in the pits. And the only reason he finished right behind George was because of the multiple safety cars and Russell being poor. Russell being bad doesn't mean Hamilton did well. 24:01 Matt understands a bit more.
I feel like people dont give Piastri a fair go .. this kid was a ROOKIE last year and won a sprint infront of max verstappen in his first year of F1 ..
A sprint that won the title for Max despite finishing 2nd. Piastri is great, but imo he's far behind of what Max and Charles did in their 2nd season in F1.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 I'm really getting annoyed about that trope that people have given him. Drivers like Lando and Charles struggled with that for 2+ years, and fast forward to now, people (rightfully) consider them to be future WDC material. Meanwhile, Oscar is already noticeably improving his ability to manage tyres, and then people see him a few seconds behind Lando and start talking about his "tyre management"😐 And it was pretty clear at the end of this race that he was using his tyres to defend and ensure that the Mercs didn't catch his teammate...
For me McLaren are firm favourites for the Constructors title. Nobody will touch the Great One at Red Bull for the drivers title, but Perez will let his team down, allowing the more consistent pairing of Lando and Oscar to outscore Red Bull.
Giving Carlos a 3 and Checo a 0 is bs. They qualified 4 spaces apart, both very low. They both made no real progress and crashed on their own. Carlos qualified closer to Charles, but Checo only took himself out while Carlos also binned Albons car. They were equally bad and should be graded as such.
Sainz had of one THE worst performances of his career. Out in Q2 in a Ferrari, slower than his teammate who was down on power, barely made an overtake all day and binned it and took Albon with him
@@luuduonghy659 The ferrari was slower, but the red bull was not as quick as people think it was. It was third best in the wet and the drying conditions, and the only reason Max managed to win was because of Norris and Russel making misstakes, and because he got a last stint on slicks. Perez has always ben horrible in the rain, so him going out was not even surprising. But at least he only ruined himself.
u can't give Zhou a 2 or 3/10 when u guys constantly give Alonso and other drivers a 5 or 6/10 when he 'maximises the car', he had a minute long pit stop ffs, his car is an absolute tractor and the 2 crashes during practice is not completely his fault, whilst he has been poor, this feels like bias towards a driver when it's one of the fan favourites, but complete ignorance on other factors when it's a driver people don't like
Yeah the fact that Matt gave Zhou a 2 and Sainz a 3 is insane to me because Sainz made a mistake that not just ruined his own race, but also Albon's. Zhou is in the worst car and didn't make any mistakes in the race. Just shows how much these guys care about being objective I guess
At most Zhou would get a 4 in my books, finishing last should never give a high score, no matter how terrible the car is. Even then, no reason to be emotional about this as the majority also gave him a 2.
Fans giving Alonso a 7 and Lewis a 8 when Alonso possibly couldn't do anything better and Lewis admitting he had a bad weekend even Russell was miles ahead of him in qualifying shows how biased F1 fans are
F1 biased, for sure. But your comment shows how uninformed and clueless other fans are. Seriously buddy, your analysis is so far off its hard to even begin to understand what your on about.
Listen here crylonso fangirl He barely beat stroll One of the worst drivers on the grid 😂😂😂😂 Got schooled by a rookie And had snail like pace in changeable conditions Lewis once again schooling him in the race 😂😂😂😂changeable conditions show the best drivers like Norris Lewis max Russell… Can’t see your idol anywhere near them 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bear in mind your idol is a p20 merchant so the fact that he suddenly finished p6 shows how much the car helped him The cars definitely faster it’s just your obese hero put on too much weight and barely beats STROLL😂😂😂😂😂
@@prozoomyMore like the opposite. Senna was untouchable in qualifying, but there was no better driver in the main race than MSC - which speaks to his racecraft being superior.
I love the content you put out and the commentary is soooo good, but somehow I wish the scoring was a bit more bold... watching 30 minutes of 2 people saying the same numbers (or just deciding to change their ratings so that it becomes the same because they got convinced) makes it less interesting. I would love to see the divergent opinions. Maybe invite guests that are going to throw a wrench in the scoring?
Can we talk about how Ricciardo was screwed over with his pitstop window of opportunity? On lap 26 (SC), he had a 4 second lead on Stroll and a 11 second lead on Albon and 12 on Tsunoda - when it was clear MOST drivers would come in due to the safety car and getting new inters for incoming rain. If he pitted, he would've had a roughly 7 second pitstop (his penalty included) and would've lost just a single position to Stroll. But they kept him out for one more lap, pitted him in lap 27.. and by then lost about three positions to Tsunoda, Stroll, Ocon. Effectively meaning that instead of dropping to P8, he dropped to P10 - not due to his own fault. And this isn't the first time Ricciardo suffered horrid pitmoments: Jeddah was quite similar where they had a 40 pitstop iirc? Daniel could've scored way more points if not for that dumb decision to keep him out.
VCARB still have a serious issue with strategy on both sides of the garage. As you mention above in this race, they should have brought him in one lap earlier but didn't and that did cost positions. Along with start issue, the team do need to work harder on their strategies- see Imola as another example.
[pedantic mode on] Actually, the correct usage would be "intra-team tension". "Inter-team tension" would be tension between teams. The more you know. ;-) [pedantic mode off]
Hamilton also made mistakes - like running off track trying to overtake Alonso. Just because his race got carried by the safety car doesn’t mean he deserves the same rating as Russell.
yes, Lewis is still generally better than George in the race. shouldn't have qualified so badly and maybe he could have even won the race or at the very least been on the podium. he needs to solve this issue together w the team
You gave Lewis Hamilton a 7 after going from seventh place to fourth and you think George Russell did better after losing first place and barely finishing third. somebody doesn’t like somebody going to Ferrari.
That Merc had great qualifying pace but it was not the same as their race pace. That McLaren was the fastest by far imo especially when the track was drying up. If anything, it's shocking Max won, he got more out of that RB than anyone should be able to get, I was almost certain Lando would win his second race. During qualifying, I thought Ham bottled the P1 and thought Mercs could win but race pace and qualifying pace isn't the same.
Yes Hamilton did bottle his last q3 lap but I'm 10000% sure if Lewis had put his lap together and went pole Lewis would have won the race with the mercedes george while having great quali pace his race pace isn't bad it's just above average but him under pressure when he's in the front row he makes too much mistakes Lewis would have won but I do understand there's an if here due to lewis q3 lap
@@aspect359 I'm not too sure about that, instantly from the beginning Max looked to be right there and the McLarens. There's only so much you could do but I do agree Lewis definitely bottled that Q3 Quali
@@11bornrich Yes, they setup with higher downforce for the wet and both are incredible wet drivers in their own right McLaren have a VERY strong lineup
hahahaha so true.. The biggest difference i can recall is 1point between these two goofs. I now only watch these on really interesting races and I still end up putting it on 2x and 5s skipping constantly. the boys are getting boring.
KMag/Haas got outstrategized by Tsunoda's side of Vcarb and Ocon staying out on Intermediates. That's what gained them trackposition and why (along with an 8s stop) Kmag lost trackposition. Then it was slippery for most of the race outside of the racing line and thus overtaking wasn't as easy - compared to when he was on wets to intermediates.
I really don’t understand why everyone is focusing so much on Russell’s mistakes when so many others did the same mistakes, and I really don’t think the Mercedes was the fastest at all as he only got pole because of the tow
Question for the boys and girls out there in the know. Had say Piastri started on the wet tyres what would the race looked like? The Hass cars were obviously flying early on compared to the intermediate runners. If the maclaren say had have split the strategies and put either driver on the wets to start and they could have got to the front on the first or second lap then a 2 sec plus delta puts them so far down the road its not funny yes?
Just did some quick maths: 2019 points through 9 races: GAS: 43 VER: 126 2024 points through 9 races: PER: 107 VER: 194 Point differential between Max and Pierre is 83, while Max and Checo is 87. Pierre had 29% of points compared to Max, while Checo has 18%….
Did you? Zhou was last place even without the pitstop, he had 0 pace all weekend spinning twice and missed getting out of Q1 by a whole second. Meanwhile Bottas was showing pace and was up in 12th but they put him on dry tyres too early
Hulkenberg was not used to slow down the field, Hulkenberg wanted to stay on the wets hoping they would last him untill dry, because he was told that Magnussen was struggeling getting temps into the inters, Hulkenberg then made a big mistake on the wets causing to to ask for a pit stop. I dont see how Hulkenberg and Magnussen could be rated the same this race, anything driver based (this weekend) Magnussen was on top of Hulkenberg.
@@laloqf The rating is based on how the driver performed with the machine they have so whether they win or not has nothing to do with it. This is why for example Alex Albon could finish 7th and be rated a 10/10, Perez could finish 7th and get rated 3/10, because you expect Perez with the machinery he has to do a lot better than 7th place.
Hamilton would have won in George's place. Yeah... but "if if if". I don't understand why this is an argument. Of course, it's not as good as George. George may have messed up but he had room to mess up on account of... not messing up in quali? As for the wrong tires thing - on radio, he asked his team. They told him he didn't have another set of Mediums and it was a bit far for Softs (i.e. that he might start losing positions when the softs fall off).
In Red bull they saw monaco and said to Perez this is exactly what we want from you so here is a new contract, so Perez tried his hardest to replicate his result from monaco😂😂😂
"That should of been a 10/10 winning that race" Matt is officially cooked. Come off it Matt. Changing wet conditions, 2 bouts of intermediate tyres, several pit stops, 2 safety cars and no clear fastest car. That was anyone's race. Not a single person on that grid was secure in their starting position.
I think giving carlos much lower than leclerc isn't really fair. Independent from the bad weather Ferrari made carlos car way more unstable because they filled his tyres with way to little pressure.
I went and did the math, and if RB had put Ricciardo on Tsunoda’s strategy he would have finished 5th, and that’s in addition to the time added on for the false start which I don’t think should have been a penalty
17:50 Sainz who qualified just in front of Sargeant (by only 0.037 seconds), crashed like Sargeant, but Sainz took someone else out which Sargeant didn't do, but he gets rated "3" while Sargeant gets a "1" (see 7:15) I'm no Sargeant fan, but surely Sainz was worse than Sargeant this week.
Closest I can think of is Mexico last year. Daniel had a stellar weekend, (pulled AlphaTurd from 10th to 8th) & Lance was closing in on a “pitlane to points” drive, (when Aston was terrible) until Bottas ended that in the stadium section of the track. Brazil could have, but Daniel having a tire bounce off his rear wing after an accident, (with Lance finishing in 5th) was hilariously unlucky.
Had LH passed Alonso earlier he would've easily entered in the Lando-George mix for P2-P3. And it would've been a solid 9/10 race. But 25 laps behind FA cost him
Ferrari bias goes crazy, imagine getting lapped a minute behind and scoring 5, and imagine spinning taking someone out and score 3 more than logan who only took out himself 😂
And in qualifying both lec and sainz could have said we need new tires to get through, but no they remained quiet, and then they pass the blame to the strategy, like u can't think for yourself?
Honestly don’t think Tsunoda’s race was all that impressive, even apart from the mistake Great strategy call from RB had him clear in 7th, and he just went backwards, even being overtaken by Ocon There’s a reason they “let Ricciardo attack” he was faster and Gasly was hunting them down It would have been the right decision to swap the cars, as Ricciardo did get by Ocon for 8th
Smiley guy: started way up the order and got overtaken by everybody. Only got back into the points because the others crashed out. 8 points. The other smiley guy: works hard with great overtakes to get to the points only to het wiped out. 8 points. How can you explain that?
The safety car giveth and the safety car taketh away.
lando was lucky that the safety car didnt take him first but he didnt capitalize on it so Max deserved the win.
How was Lando lucky? The safety car cost him the lead
@@Bobby11 well it didnt pick him up but that also meant he went past the pits before the FIA figured out that the clear SC was a SC. because they are still french at heart and will never do a good job.
@@l.jboylan6704 thats just not true though it did pick him up he just was to close to the pits when the safety car call came so he had to go around again
@@Bobby11 if you watch Peter Windsor, the og f1 pundit, according to him Lando couldn't have won, even without the safety car blocking him because in the latter quarter of the race Max had pace, and even when Safety car bunched them together and brought Lando right back in, Max simply pulled away.
Villneuve wasn't wrong for the first half of his comment. But he undermined everything by claiming Danny was never good to begin with. If Danny had never been good, his drop in form wouldn't be notable.
100% it basically invalidates his point. Daniel used to be top class he isn't anymore that's all there is
Had a look at JV's career stat's, Danny Ric is 3 wins behind and has 10 more podiums. JV needs to pull his head in, a weak Champ if ever there was one.
Well said
He was wrong to say he didn’t beat anyone since RedBull. He actually only lost to Norris and with Tsunoda we have to wait until the end of the season he is been better in the four races for sure and three or four weekends last season but its still not a good sample to judge both of them.
He let Renault kill his mojo. Understandable as that team is vile.
I may or may not say this because I have bad associations with France
I think Albons overtake is one of the best of the hybrid era.
Is it on par with the Hakkinen / Schumacher/ Zonta move?
100 percent simply brilliant
@@captainflipflop8805didn’t know they drove hybrids
How large is this "one of the best" range? For me it is nowhere near
Agree but more ass than class what needs to be understood his calmness in no man’s land 💯cool as a cucumber 🥒 👌👏
The safety car driver gets an 11/10 purely for the drifting
Kmag came out of the pits, and the next 4 cars in front of him were less than 3 seconds in front. That pit stop was a disaster for him.
He also had 4 stops, where everybody else only had 3. If Haas had let Hulk hold everybody back like Mag did for him and he had a prober pit stop then i could have achived so much more
@@XerreaHulk did try to hold everyone back while K-Mag pitted though, didn't he?
Hulk tried but was getting overtaken by everyone. His tires fell off too much.
I don’t get this
Logan - good qualifying, made error on his own - score 1 and 2
Carlos - bad qualifying, made error on his own, swiped another driver - score 3 (corrected from 4)
What?
Logan makes many mistakes carlos making a mistake like that is rare
matt is a Ferrari dickrider even if theyre actually garbage
@@Umar-gw6fy sure, but this is not the season rating, it’s the Canadian GP rating. Why should the other races matter?
@@bill0g Carlos got 3 (from both) I'd give him a 2, but you can say Logan had a good quali on his standards, but the gap to Albon was bigger than Sainz's gap to Lec. Also Sarg made 2 big errors during the race, Sainz only 1
Wholeheartedly agreed. Logan wasn't the only one who took himself out, he got into Q2, he outqualified Perez (who also took himself out ) and when he did take himself out he only took himself out, not another driver too. I commented on the race review that he is getting a bad rap just because he keeps getting a bad rap. He actually did better in this race than a Red Bull, and arguably better than a Ferrari. And yet he gets a 1 and a 2. Smh
Have you guys considered doing team ratings alongside driver ratings? i.e a driver had a great race but the strategy was REALLY bad
good shout
Think they should just do random ratings, might actually be more accurate, ie take a driver's name then him a random number generator and mark them that that way. How in the hell was Alonso rated 9 by both, ridiculous. 7 at best, ditto for his team mate. All these scores are way too high tbh.
When Ferrari consistently becomes good then they'll implement it.
@@clansomeThey both finished in the highest realistically possible positions for the Aston Martins and earned crucial points
Ricciardo team- 1/10
when all is said and done people will realise what we were witnessing with max was a once in a lifetime scenario
eddy jordan recently said,
i did have senna in my team and also schumacher and i think in the same car verstappen would beat them.
max is talent + hard work. he is simracing at the highest lvl while relaxing
I think it's worth mentioning that Max not only won the race in such messy conditions, but also did with no help from teammate at all. While Mclaren and Mercedes can play a split strategy with both cars in the front, Max has no space to make mistakes. It makes his win even more incredible.
Also for Zhou, yes he did a poor weekend, but without that 50 seconds pit stop he'll be much closer to the pack and maybe not that deadly last
Alonso 9, Stroll 8... Ricciardo 8?
Ricciardo qualified P5 (less than 2 tenths off pole) ahead of Alonso, then lost places at the start and got a 5 second penalty (due to car clutch issues), and still managed to get points at 8th just behind the Astons.
He also overtook Ocon quickly right after Yuki's spin.
How is Alonso rated higher and Stroll rated the same?
Ricciardo hasn't had a consistently impressive season thus far, but this weekend was one of those great ones. Should have been a 9.
Not sure what on earth Alonso did that race to get a 9
I personally would of given Daniel a 9.
Great qualifying!
Unlucky penalty as the team said it was a clutch issue (not actually Daniel’s fault)
A few drivers didn’t pit under safety car which lost him more track position (after serving penalty) was also over 5 seconds ahead of tsunoda so even if he also pit Daniel would of still been ahead. And then he still finished in the points.
Was a solid drive from Daniel where he didn’t make any mistakes as the start wasn’t his fault and picked up solid points. Maybe could have finished 1 place higher without the penalty due to losing so many places earlier on but realistically what else could the RB have done. He was never finishing ahead of max, McLaren, merc or Alonso
Oscar has some of the hardest placements to watch as a fan. He's always either 4th or 5th, just slightly not reaching that podium. Like he's doing amazing but just missing out on that podium over and over again
All Oscar have to fix is tht he have to fix his tyre managment issues he has grt quali pace and above average race pace too his problem is due to his poor tyre management his pace won't go so bad the last 10 lap
@@aspect359Well, there IS another thing Oscar might want to change about his current driving style. He’s more hesitant to attempt an overtake than Lando is. Of course, this may be more from Oscar’s inexperience compared to his teammate, but I do genuinely think Oscar is developing the skill to challenge Lando slowly but surely for his leadership spot… but currently, Oscar seems a bit too hesitant when overtaking opportunities come up. But I think once he gets a bit more time under his belt, Oscar is going to be a force of nature to contend with.
His time will come
@@trevinodudeafter that move around the outside on sainz in monaco, I wouldn't exactly call him a hesitant overtaker. In fact his racecraft is very aggressive, doesn't yield too. Like against sainz at miami and Russell at Canada.
@@trevinodude Funny how people have different perspectives. Oscar struck me as willing to race from his first grand prix for McLaren. He has had good overtakes and solid defence.
KMag deserved an 8 or 9. Im surprised the fans rated him so low. He really did all he could this weekend.
There's quite a few fans that hate him and will rate him low just because of that. Giving Magnussen and Hülkenberg the same rating this race doesn't make any sense. And in Imola where Magnussen was clearly better I think they even rated him lower than Hülkenberg. It's pretty silly tbh.
@@Vlad-sj5yw I’ve noticed that too and it’s unfortunate. He may he a menace on the track sometimes, but everyone loves the entertainment value it brings.
@@Vlad-sj5yw was Kmag clearly better in Imola? I remember them being fairly similar but Kmag was on the optimal strategy and Hulk on the weaker one (reacting to the early VCARB pitstop)
Guanyu had a 42 second pit stop in Canada I think. I don't think it was shown in the TV. He is having a bad season but I think you should know.
Yes, idk why they have a shitshow of pitstops
That's true but he was last either way tbh and it's just the same thing every race.
Yes but even before the stops he was a decent margin behind Bottas in P20, I saw the race live an Zhou was nowhere the whole weekend. By far one of his worst showings in his time in F1. Reminded me of Latifi in Miami 2022, so far back we clapped for them.
Giving Sainz a 3 is crazy to me (including from the fans). Terrible qualifying, terrible race, took another driver out while binning it himself. Perez got a 0 for having not one good moment over the entire race weekend + Logan got a 1/2 when he actually did a great quali.
Sainz should have been a 1 maximum - due to the Ferrari car being poor this weekend (imo).
Both a 1 for me. I keep the 0 for drivers who take half the grid out of the race grosjean style for no reason while bleing slow af and getting a race ban, dsq or something like that.
Sainz was also 3tenths up in quali before the last chicane. Q3 was possible for him
Fred Vasseur said that Carlos had floor and wing damage from a collision with Bottas which occurred before Carlos spun and unfortunately gathered Alex up with him.
Ricciardo 8 here when Tsunoda got a 10 in Japan
Not biased at all lads
Russel doesnr handle pressure too well and makes mistakes. Thats a weakness other drivers can exploit
Rubbish. He made less mistakes than Lando and Norris should’ve won the race but didn’t. People need to be able to tell the difference between a failed overtake and a mistake.
He’s still better than that washed doggy alonslow in every way
Was schooling him when Aston was a faster car 😂😂😂😂
Crylonso can’t handle it any better then since that FRAUD couldn’t achieve a pole or win with the rocket ship he had last season whilst Russell put that tractor on pole twice…😂😂😂
@@gameofender4463 What were those mistakes from Lando? George lost places first to Max and then Lewis by cutting the chicane in the last corner despite being able to recover that place back from Lewis.
@@soundscape26 Bottled it into turn one and had to go across turn two, should’ve been on the front row but wasn’t, and locking up into the hairpin which cost him 2nd to George before George had his wet track moment like a lot of the others did.
And on the one where George lost position to Max. We all know that these cars are terrible braking really close to each other as you have no front grip/downforce if you’re under the rear wing of the car in front. So George had to take the escape road and lose position to Max or potentially lock up into the wall or ruin his tyres.
Daniel had a slow pitstop, bad strategy - lost track position with the pitstop when others stayed out, and 5 second penalty from a false start that wasn't his doing that ruined his race basically. Add to that the VCARB starting issue which cost him and Yuki multiple positions at the start. Having basically given up with a hope of points, he came home with 4 points when he passed Ocon for 8th
Ricciardo demolished Tsunoda on pace in the race, VCARB strategy left Yuki in 7th and him down in 12th and he closed up that entire distance AND got by Ocon for good measure
i would love for people to stop saying the strat was BAD. it wasn't optimal in hindsight but the only "bad" part was delaying his stop for one lap.
Agreed, and yet...
ALO 9, STR 8... RIC 8? How?
RIC should be at least a 9 given the other driver ratings.
I think qualifying P5 and 2 tenths from pole also merits at least a 9.
@@Duval-In-The-Wallhe didn’t close the distance. Safety car did. Albon and Sainz were ahead of him for ages…
@@sonypd9842
Mate, the positions I was referring to were right AFTER the safety car. Without it Ricciardo was running a clear 7th, ahead of Stroll
Hulkenberg had problems with his rear wing and the team changed but put on the wrong one. That's why he qualified so low.
Sounds like something Haas would do.
Haas really love to make it harder for their drivers
I’m over 40 and this is my first year getting into f1 😢. But I’ve dove headfirst into it and love your content. Keep them coming. 😊
Albon's overtake was beautiful to watch, but we need to acknowledge Ocon and Ricciardo's awareness to let him through, could have easily been 3 cars out koz Alex is not fully in control under breaking. Also, Yuki was overtaken by Ocon and defended Ricciardo like crazy, but once DR was by he caught and overtook Ocon in like 3 laps
he actually passed the very next lap, yuki spun in 67th, and daniel passed by ocon in 68th
Yuki throwing it off track actually got VCARB more points, weirdly
They were 9th and 10th, which is 3 points, and we from Bahrain that Yuki would get angry and ignore team orders (that’s why they said to Ric “attack him”)
Instead Yuki finally got out of the way, allowing Ricciardo to get past Ocon and take 8th, which is 4 points
@@Duval-In-The-Wall Spot on
@@Duval-In-The-Wall The ultimate team player, like Tony Stark sacrificing himself in Endgame
They didn’t show the midfield enough so it’s easy to miss it, but Tsunoda wasn’t “stuck” behind Ocon, it was Ocon that had actually passed him for position, he was going backwards
Yep.Then Tsunoda held Danny Ric up for about ten laps too
Zhou: *Spinning TWICE in the FPs*
Sargeant: "Challenge accepted."
Seriously, though, Zhou really needs to put himself together. I'm his fan, and there are a thousand reasons I'm tempted to say about why he didn't deliver. But at the end of the day, none of them matters unless he can prove himself Somewhere.
Matt Zhou did have a 42 second pit stop (wheel nuts again)
They Just watch Sky Main Broadcast, they have No Idea what Happens to mid and endfield drivers
Lando afterwards in the interview said that he had time to go into the pits, but team decided to wait a lap.
It was the dumbest decision. They should have gone in right after they pitted. He was gonna be able to get away with that first lap on inters but they waited a lap too late and that’s what cost him I think
@@imliterallyjustjake Absolutely horrible quick decision moment. Two reasonings that could have led them to this bad decision:
- track position if others wouldn't pit, which naturally they would pit. (Mercedes type reasoning)
- If safetycar was slightly faster, he would have a free slightly fresher set of tyres on.
Absolutely abhorrent from the McLaren team! Any time that there's the potential for a safety car you need to be prepared to make the split second decision to pit!
So when charles does a mistake that costs him a lot he gets a 7 but same for yuki and he gets a 4?
What mistake did Leclerc do that was anywhere near binning it?
examples please
It amazes me when we talk about F1 teams not being ready for a pit stop. I worked on an ALMS championship winning team and whenever a yellow came out we always had the pit crew up and ready to go. I would think with the brain trust that is in F1 they would have a more efficient way to getting the tires to the car instead of three or four guys dodging around the garage trying to get the correct set into pit lane.
Max and his sim racing of the track is showing, he’s never ever switched off why he’s leading the championship still after mishaps
That'd be his childhood trauma (courtesy of Jos), not letting him switch off
I agree with you about Max. One of the best drives in many years in his career. The car was awful on that circuit.
I was a Red Bull Paddock Club guest and had the team’s radio so I heard the communications between Max and Checo and the pit wall after it was shut off to the public. The drivers bitterly complained about how bad the car was and how poorly it handled and their lack of confidence in it. And despite that, just a few hours later, Max qualifies P2 and goes on to win. Absolutely remarkable. In most other drivers’ hands, that was no better than a P8-P10 car.
And I’m not even a Red Bull fan. I’m really a fan of Aston Martin, Ferrari, Williams and Lewis, Fernando, Charles, Carlos and Alex.
But you have to respect true talent, and Max showed us just how great a driving talent he really is when he does not have a winning car. He’s on the level of the very very best drivers who have ever driven in the sport.
Zhou was chosen over Oscar Piastri to get promoted from F2.
Ricciardo actually overtook Ocon on track 3 laps before the checkered flag the amount of misinformation in this video is insane. They didn’t ask Ocon to let Gasly through MANY LAPS BEFORE since he was actually in front of Ricciardo and Danny was chasing him and got him at the end. The Alpine call was purely to give Gasly more points.
Ric deserved a 9. Yuki fan approves
Alonso got a 9 instead and he was outqualified by Ric and barely beat Stroll make that make sense. Your nale gets you free points or negative points I feel in this podcast
EXACTLY
It’s Ocon. Who cares about anything that doesn’t paint him as a bad guy?
@@khalilaloulou8736 Stroll being good for once in his life doesn't mean Alonso was bad.
Russell made a lot of mistakes that Max used to make before he won his first WDC. He was just trying too hard to win the race, which wasn't necessary as it probably would've come to him had he been a bit more patient at times.
This is max’s best race this year he had the 3rd fastest car and won
Check the data, speed traps -definitely not the 3rd fastest car. Still a rocket on straights.
@@BwInNewJersey according to "The Race" (so you can't deny, they have data, specialists and people actually inside Paddock, cry more if you can't admit), Red Bull got the 2nd fastest car, tail to tail with McLaren.
@@BwInNewJersey The handling made if feel like it was battling with Mercs for 2nd fastest, I honestly thought that RB was behind the mercs, qualifying that Merc looked like a rocket, race pace, I thought Max should've finished 3rd or 4th behind McLaren & Merc. He definitely got more out of that car than he was supposed to because the cornering was just poor.
@@11bornrichthe cornering was also not poor why everyone believes the redbull isn't the top team anymore is only because of sergios insanely bad perfomance mostly in Canada max was saying the suspensions were locked meaning it was very stiff this is a thing tht they have to do to maximise the cars perfomance aftr the race horner talked about it if u need to win raced and have the fastest car rn they have to make some sacrifices . Why he felt it more this race was because Canada was a bumpy track and not a track where redbulls very good at so while max may feel the suspensions to be bad it gives the car more perfomance
Third fastest car that was faster in Q1, joint fastest in Q3.
And won the race by 6s. Lmao.
The Max hype is insane, just because he complains about imaginary problems all the time. Is Lewis suddenly a tire magician because of “Bono the tyres are gone” when he’s out of the pitlane?
It seems Russell needs to start complaining about his car.
Alonso, Lewis, Verstappen all the same complains when they’re winning with ease are regarded as the greatest. While drivers like Russell, Vettel, etc who don’t say anything publicly aren’t.
How do you even rank Bottas this season… Like he’s crushing his teammate, but the car is so trash that it seems impossible to do anything in it. Really wanna see him in like a Williams
Editor: List of ratings shows Tommy giving Ocon and Gasly 7 each. He graded them 8 each
25:48 "Because we're a drinks company and Checo flogs a shitload of our product in Mexico."
F1 in 2024 folks.
Max is complaining that the car is not to his liking and how it is hard to drive and wins anyways i mean it speaks for itself
I guess it's the new version of "Bono, my tyres are gone".
@@066kshitizvsingh4 except you can actually see his car is a handful and extremely difficult to drive. Compare his onboards this season to last season and check how many micro corrections he's having to make on the steering whereas last year it was one smooth motion as if the car was on rails. If Redbull manage to resolve the issues they have with the suspention and give Max a car he can drive to the absolute limit again its curtains for everyone else that's even thinking about winning a race.
@LazeeAnomalee man I was joking.....
Double overtake by Alex should feature in DTS
10/10 for Norris driving in F1 and Formula DRIFT at the same time.
Lewis only caught up to them because of the safety cars tho and he also went off by himself before the second sc
And the only reason why he passed Alonso is because of aston martin poor pitstop. I'll give Lewis probably 6 to 7/10
22:58 How the same as Russell when Russell qualified and finished ahead? Lewis couldn't get past Alonso in a much slower car and had to rely on jumping him in the pits. And the only reason he finished right behind George was because of the multiple safety cars and Russell being poor. Russell being bad doesn't mean Hamilton did well.
24:01 Matt understands a bit more.
2024: 13:19 14:21
Ver: 13:40 20:27 20:40 21:11 23:11 24:03 28:04
Per: 21:15
8:48
I feel like people dont give Piastri a fair go .. this kid was a ROOKIE last year and won a sprint infront of max verstappen in his first year of F1 ..
Salty Brits running scared.
Piastri needs to figure out tyre management. He literally has everything else to be a WDC. The competiveness, the temperament, the Quali Pace.
They don't? Piastri is one of the fans' darlings.
A sprint that won the title for Max despite finishing 2nd. Piastri is great, but imo he's far behind of what Max and Charles did in their 2nd season in F1.
@@066kshitizvsingh4 I'm really getting annoyed about that trope that people have given him.
Drivers like Lando and Charles struggled with that for 2+ years, and fast forward to now, people (rightfully) consider them to be future WDC material. Meanwhile, Oscar is already noticeably improving his ability to manage tyres, and then people see him a few seconds behind Lando and start talking about his "tyre management"😐
And it was pretty clear at the end of this race that he was using his tyres to defend and ensure that the Mercs didn't catch his teammate...
He was literally on the podium the previous race, Matt ☺️ 15:03
For me McLaren are firm favourites for the Constructors title. Nobody will touch the Great One at Red Bull for the drivers title, but Perez will let his team down, allowing the more consistent pairing of Lando and Oscar to outscore Red Bull.
Wait wait
Tommy gave Ocon and Gasly an 8 but the full ratings graphic showed them both receiving 7s
What a drive from Ocon!!!
Carlos deserved the 1 or 0 based on Logan’s score
15:00 Matt asking for a Piastri Podium, but forgetting he was runner up in the last race 🙄
19:03
Giving Carlos a 3 and Checo a 0 is bs. They qualified 4 spaces apart, both very low. They both made no real progress and crashed on their own. Carlos qualified closer to Charles, but Checo only took himself out while Carlos also binned Albons car. They were equally bad and should be graded as such.
not bs at all. Ferrari is much slower than Red Bull though, also Perez were rarely above P13 throughout the race.
Both a 1 for me.
Sainz had of one THE worst performances of his career. Out in Q2 in a Ferrari, slower than his teammate who was down on power, barely made an overtake all day and binned it and took Albon with him
@@Duval-In-The-Wall I agree. That was a 0 points performance if Ive ever seen one.
@@luuduonghy659 The ferrari was slower, but the red bull was not as quick as people think it was. It was third best in the wet and the drying conditions, and the only reason Max managed to win was because of Norris and Russel making misstakes, and because he got a last stint on slicks.
Perez has always ben horrible in the rain, so him going out was not even surprising. But at least he only ruined himself.
Could Oscar have defended p3 if Lando helped him with DRS for those last several laps?
u can't give Zhou a 2 or 3/10 when u guys constantly give Alonso and other drivers a 5 or 6/10 when he 'maximises the car', he had a minute long pit stop ffs, his car is an absolute tractor and the 2 crashes during practice is not completely his fault, whilst he has been poor, this feels like bias towards a driver when it's one of the fan favourites, but complete ignorance on other factors when it's a driver people don't like
Yeah the fact that Matt gave Zhou a 2 and Sainz a 3 is insane to me because Sainz made a mistake that not just ruined his own race, but also Albon's. Zhou is in the worst car and didn't make any mistakes in the race. Just shows how much these guys care about being objective I guess
@@sean7885 They are fans more than journalists, you should never expect them to be totally objective. This is just for fun.
The main reason Zhou is so low is because he was an entire second off of escaping q1
His poor qualifying pace cannot go without lowering the ratings
At most Zhou would get a 4 in my books, finishing last should never give a high score, no matter how terrible the car is. Even then, no reason to be emotional about this as the majority also gave him a 2.
And he binned it twice in free practice... @@RohanFernandez11
I saw the giant hp logo on Sainz's overalls and immediately remembered, "help"
If you know, you know 😂
18:12 is gold
Fans giving Alonso a 7 and Lewis a 8 when Alonso possibly couldn't do anything better and Lewis admitting he had a bad weekend even Russell was miles ahead of him in qualifying shows how biased F1 fans are
Crylosno fangirls crying out bias😂😂😂
F1 biased, for sure. But your comment shows how uninformed and clueless other fans are. Seriously buddy, your analysis is so far off its hard to even begin to understand what your on about.
Listen here crylonso fangirl
He barely beat stroll
One of the worst drivers on the grid 😂😂😂😂
Got schooled by a rookie
And had snail like pace in changeable conditions
Lewis once again schooling him in the race 😂😂😂😂changeable conditions show the best drivers like Norris Lewis max Russell…
Can’t see your idol anywhere near them 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bear in mind your idol is a p20 merchant so the fact that he suddenly finished p6 shows how much the car helped him
The cars definitely faster it’s just your obese hero put on too much weight and barely beats STROLL😂😂😂😂😂
@@AZBCDEE you seriously need a doctor
Verstappen is the closest thing to the greatest of all time I've saw.
MSC #1
What about Hamilton?
@@mysterionslyther5762the greatest
@@aspect359
Senna and MSC were better
@@Duval-In-The-Wallcan we agree that senna was better than Michael In race craft ?
@@prozoomyMore like the opposite. Senna was untouchable in qualifying, but there was no better driver in the main race than MSC - which speaks to his racecraft being superior.
I love the content you put out and the commentary is soooo good, but somehow I wish the scoring was a bit more bold... watching 30 minutes of 2 people saying the same numbers (or just deciding to change their ratings so that it becomes the same because they got convinced) makes it less interesting. I would love to see the divergent opinions. Maybe invite guests that are going to throw a wrench in the scoring?
Can we talk about how Ricciardo was screwed over with his pitstop window of opportunity?
On lap 26 (SC), he had a 4 second lead on Stroll and a 11 second lead on Albon and 12 on Tsunoda - when it was clear MOST drivers would come in due to the safety car and getting new inters for incoming rain.
If he pitted, he would've had a roughly 7 second pitstop (his penalty included) and would've lost just a single position to Stroll.
But they kept him out for one more lap, pitted him in lap 27.. and by then lost about three positions to Tsunoda, Stroll, Ocon.
Effectively meaning that instead of dropping to P8, he dropped to P10 - not due to his own fault. And this isn't the first time Ricciardo suffered horrid pitmoments: Jeddah was quite similar where they had a 40 pitstop iirc?
Daniel could've scored way more points if not for that dumb decision to keep him out.
VCARB still have a serious issue with strategy on both sides of the garage. As you mention above in this race, they should have brought him in one lap earlier but didn't and that did cost positions. Along with start issue, the team do need to work harder on their strategies- see Imola as another example.
I think F1 should add water sprinklers on the track and turn it on randomly for any 10 - 15 laps. That will spice up the sports.
[pedantic mode on] Actually, the correct usage would be "intra-team tension". "Inter-team tension" would be tension between teams. The more you know. ;-) [pedantic mode off]
I loved watching KMag sawing thru the grid. Imagine what the other drivers were thinking when a Haas overtakes you as if ur not even moving
George starts P1 finishes P3 after making 2 mistakes gets an 8 from Matt. Lewis starts P7 finishes P4 gets a 7. Ok
Hamilton also made mistakes - like running off track trying to overtake Alonso.
Just because his race got carried by the safety car doesn’t mean he deserves the same rating as Russell.
He should’ve have starting from P7 in general.
They take starting position into account
Compare who Hamilton was battling to who Russel was battling
yes, Lewis is still generally better than George in the race. shouldn't have qualified so badly and maybe he could have even won the race or at the very least been on the podium. he needs to solve this issue together w the team
You gave Lewis Hamilton a 7 after going from seventh place to fourth and you think George Russell did better after losing first place and barely finishing third. somebody doesn’t like somebody going to Ferrari.
That Merc had great qualifying pace but it was not the same as their race pace. That McLaren was the fastest by far imo especially when the track was drying up. If anything, it's shocking Max won, he got more out of that RB than anyone should be able to get, I was almost certain Lando would win his second race. During qualifying, I thought Ham bottled the P1 and thought Mercs could win but race pace and qualifying pace isn't the same.
Yes Hamilton did bottle his last q3 lap but I'm 10000% sure if Lewis had put his lap together and went pole Lewis would have won the race with the mercedes george while having great quali pace his race pace isn't bad it's just above average but him under pressure when he's in the front row he makes too much mistakes Lewis would have won but I do understand there's an if here due to lewis q3 lap
-The McLaren- Lando was the fastest by far when the track was drying
He’s shown time and again he is excellent in changeable and wet conditions
@@aspect359 I'm not too sure about that, instantly from the beginning Max looked to be right there and the McLarens. There's only so much you could do but I do agree Lewis definitely bottled that Q3 Quali
@@Duval-In-The-Wall The McLarens was the fastest, PIA and Norris were LITERALLY constantly exchanging fastest laps.
@@11bornrich
Yes, they setup with higher downforce for the wet and both are incredible wet drivers in their own right
McLaren have a VERY strong lineup
Why not just call this segment “I have also gone”
hahahaha so true.. The biggest difference i can recall is 1point between these two goofs. I now only watch these on really interesting races and I still end up putting it on 2x and 5s skipping constantly. the boys are getting boring.
3 for Sainz seems generous
28:45 Editor, I'm pretty sure Tommy gave Alpine boys an 8, not 7.
KMag/Haas got outstrategized by Tsunoda's side of Vcarb and Ocon staying out on Intermediates. That's what gained them trackposition and why (along with an 8s stop) Kmag lost trackposition.
Then it was slippery for most of the race outside of the racing line and thus overtaking wasn't as easy - compared to when he was on wets to intermediates.
Based George Russell rating. All I've heard is about the mistakes, despite his pace being insane.
I really don’t understand why everyone is focusing so much on Russell’s mistakes when so many others did the same mistakes, and I really don’t think the Mercedes was the fastest at all as he only got pole because of the tow
@@Anna-gm6zy Because Russell's mistakes cost him places to Max and Lewis despite being able to recover Lewis' place back given the better tyres.
@@soundscape26 Yeah, but those were positions he shouldn't have been at in the first place.
@@Anna-gm6zy Completely agree.
@@leondarley2811 I think 8 is still a pretty good grade.
Question for the boys and girls out there in the know.
Had say Piastri started on the wet tyres what would the race looked like? The Hass cars were obviously flying early on compared to the intermediate runners.
If the maclaren say had have split the strategies and put either driver on the wets to start and they could have got to the front on the first or second lap then a 2 sec plus delta puts them so far down the road its not funny yes?
Just did some quick maths:
2019 points through 9 races:
GAS: 43
VER: 126
2024 points through 9 races:
PER: 107
VER: 194
Point differential between Max and Pierre is 83, while Max and Checo is 87.
Pierre had 29% of points compared to Max, while Checo has 18%….
Did you even watch the race!? How long was Zhou's pit stop?
Did you? Zhou was last place even without the pitstop, he had 0 pace all weekend spinning twice and missed getting out of Q1 by a whole second. Meanwhile Bottas was showing pace and was up in 12th but they put him on dry tyres too early
Hulkenberg was not used to slow down the field, Hulkenberg wanted to stay on the wets hoping they would last him untill dry, because he was told that Magnussen was struggeling getting temps into the inters, Hulkenberg then made a big mistake on the wets causing to to ask for a pit stop.
I dont see how Hulkenberg and Magnussen could be rated the same this race, anything driver based (this weekend) Magnussen was on top of Hulkenberg.
K-mag had four pitstops, one more than Hulkenberg - and one and two more than most of the field. That's why he ended up behind.
Kevin deserved a 10 for that start alone
If some day he wins, what then?
@@laloqf The rating is based on how the driver performed with the machine they have so whether they win or not has nothing to do with it. This is why for example Alex Albon could finish 7th and be rated a 10/10, Perez could finish 7th and get rated 3/10, because you expect Perez with the machinery he has to do a lot better than 7th place.
Hamilton would have won in George's place. Yeah... but "if if if". I don't understand why this is an argument. Of course, it's not as good as George. George may have messed up but he had room to mess up on account of... not messing up in quali? As for the wrong tires thing - on radio, he asked his team. They told him he didn't have another set of Mediums and it was a bit far for Softs (i.e. that he might start losing positions when the softs fall off).
In Red bull they saw monaco and said to Perez this is exactly what we want from you so here is a new contract, so Perez tried his hardest to replicate his result from monaco😂😂😂
Let’s go been waiting all day
Wondering if one of the top 5 on the grid had started on full wets if they could've built a pit stop gap for the change to inters
"That should of been a 10/10 winning that race" Matt is officially cooked. Come off it Matt. Changing wet conditions, 2 bouts of intermediate tyres, several pit stops, 2 safety cars and no clear fastest car. That was anyone's race. Not a single person on that grid was secure in their starting position.
On AUstrian TV, they said that Lando was past the turnoff when the safety car announcement came.
I think giving carlos much lower than leclerc isn't really fair. Independent from the bad weather Ferrari made carlos car way more unstable because they filled his tyres with way to little pressure.
😂😂
I went and did the math, and if RB had put Ricciardo on Tsunoda’s strategy he would have finished 5th, and that’s in addition to the time added on for the false start which I don’t think should have been a penalty
How does Danny Ric do a jump start and gets a 5 sec penalty, but when Lando did it, it wasn't even reviewed
I remember LeMans last year. I wish there was another stock car participating this year, that was fun!
Can we have a podcast about the ongoing Mercedes issues with regards to drivers
Tommy was feeling generous in this one
How does Sargeant get a 1 and Sainz gets a 3 ?
I saw this video on my front page and audibly breathed "oooh yes". I might be a bit hooked on this channel
17:50 Sainz who qualified just in front of Sargeant (by only 0.037 seconds), crashed like Sargeant, but Sainz took someone else out which Sargeant didn't do, but he gets rated "3" while Sargeant gets a "1" (see 7:15)
I'm no Sargeant fan, but surely Sainz was worse than Sargeant this week.
Has it ever happened before that both Stroll and Riccardo both had a "if they drove like this every race..." weekend at the same time?
Closest I can think of is Mexico last year. Daniel had a stellar weekend, (pulled AlphaTurd from 10th to 8th) & Lance was closing in on a “pitlane to points” drive, (when Aston was terrible) until Bottas ended that in the stadium section of the track.
Brazil could have, but Daniel having a tire bounce off his rear wing after an accident, (with Lance finishing in 5th) was hilariously unlucky.
Had LH passed Alonso earlier he would've easily entered in the Lando-George mix for P2-P3. And it would've been a solid 9/10 race. But 25 laps behind FA cost him
This is the season I've been waiting for...
Max v Charles v Lando v George +... very nice.
RB- Ferrari- McL- M.B. !
Now we need Wlms, Albon +(______)
Carlos could've been at 2, was 3 tenths up in Quali then bottled it in the last corner plus all the mistakes and lack of pace in the race
24:24 Hamilton still did pull fastest lap out of the bag at least
Hamilton was a 5 or 6. Mercedes had the best car all weekend. He qualified badly and benefitted massively from both safety cars.
Ferrari bias goes crazy, imagine getting lapped a minute behind and scoring 5, and imagine spinning taking someone out and score 3 more than logan who only took out himself 😂
Leclerc got screwed up by Ferrari
None of that was Leclerc’s fault
@@Duval-In-The-Wall agreed
@@Duval-In-The-Wallhe has no say in strategy? Can't override his race engineer?like he has no say, and is just along for the ride??
And in qualifying both lec and sainz could have said we need new tires to get through, but no they remained quiet, and then they pass the blame to the strategy, like u can't think for yourself?
Honestly don’t think Tsunoda’s race was all that impressive, even apart from the mistake
Great strategy call from RB had him clear in 7th, and he just went backwards, even being overtaken by Ocon
There’s a reason they “let Ricciardo attack” he was faster and Gasly was hunting them down
It would have been the right decision to swap the cars, as Ricciardo did get by Ocon for 8th
Why is Gasly and Ocon a 7 on Tommys ratings despite he said both get a 8??
I noticed that as well lol, guess the editor forgor.
Or he just had it with Matt and Tommy changing their mind too much in their ratings before. XD
Smiley guy: started way up the order and got overtaken by everybody. Only got back into the points because the others crashed out. 8 points.
The other smiley guy: works hard with great overtakes to get to the points only to het wiped out. 8 points.
How can you explain that?