Very similar line of thought to Christos Yannaras in his gem of a book, Variations on the Song of Songs. I think to his opening line, “we come to know love only in the context of failure. “ as Han points out, we live in a culture that prevents us from turning failure into a deeper eros.
These people, 9:29 never cease to amaze me, acting as if people's nudity and words online is more offensive than the violence we're exposed to in REAL life, even brought manners into it, all the while the physical abuse, i'm not even allowed to speak of it because the youtube ceo will hurt me if i do, Han's notions of what causes depression are of those groomed by the occult, you guys can take your beers and choke on em
I just want to say: thank you, thank you so much. I adore your knowledge. By these kind of videos, I feel like I can reconnect to myself, what do I want to read? Why I want to? What I want to search for and to think of ? What to put my time and effort in? As you have said Han is an underrated philosopher in our time and there are not so much content made about him, I'm glad there are you who's making these beautiful crafted video. It's really rare. Sorry my English is bad and I can't read Han if my English is like this, so to be able to read him and other great books and authors, also to enjoy your videos more is a motivation for me to learning language, especially English as well.
In the words of Franz Kafka: "The reservations with which you take evil into yourself are not yours, but those of Evil." "The animal twists the whip from its master's grip and whips itself to become its own master--not knowing that this is only a fantasy, produced by a knew knot in the master's whiplash"
Nice one mate. I love reading Han, its like being awake somehow. Lacan and its modern commentators also can give a lot of insights on these matters. The "new synthomes" of our times. Cheers from Brazil!
Great video. Never heard of Han before now but I will certainly be checking him out. Commodification = destruction of otherness. Commodification is the making banal, safe and indistinct. Couldn't agree more!
min. 11:40; Nietzsche was not a proponent of "bare life", he despised the mundane and advocated for the subject to turn the act of self-surpassing into its task, source of meaning and instigator of personal freedom.
oh. didnt know that! it is so refreshing to hear people talking about what I would consider an authentic experience of Love. Erich Fromm's "The Art of Loving" is also a must in this regard. its crazy that for some people this take on Love is considered "old fashioned" or "conservative"... its sad but I think Love (the kind Badiou talks about) is slowly disappearing. nowadays its all about nihilistic hedonism. (btw ive just discovered your channel and your content is great. just the fact that you've realeased two videos about Han is amazing considering how few people have covered his work on UA-cam)
I must say its not easy to catch all of these concepts at once,but I would be teribbly sorry if I never even heard them so that I can explore them.For that I thank you.
Can someone explain a little further what is meant by "The Other" and how a narcissist cannot distinguish themselves from it? Isn't the point of narcissism that it's always a dichotomy between the Me and the Other people? Where the Me is always placed above?
The other means the other of two. There is you, and then the other BUT the other must maintain its "otherness" to be considered "other". "The ability to experience the other in terms of his or her otherness is being lost. By means of social media, we seek to bring the other as near as possible, to close any distance between ourselves and him or her, to create proximity. But this does not mean that we have more of the other/ instead, we are making the other disappear"-agony of eros. The narcissist wants to characterize the other by grasping, possessing, or knowing. If one could posess, grasp, and know the other, it would not be other. Possessing, knowing, and grasping, are synonyms of power.
Great video, thank you! This made me think of the theological difference between divine names and divine attributes. That distinction illustrates just this divide-between the Other and the Same-by similarly driving a wedge between classical theistic notions of the divine and the sacred’s relation to this ever-surpassing essence, and modernist profanations which reduce metaphysics to ontic taxonomy-which is by its very nature univocal rather than analogical. Modernity therefore begins conceiving of the divine in terms that precisely preclude any ultimate Otherness. When we offer names of the divine we attempt to address ourselves and our rational faculties to the transcendent Other by oblique means which are themselves predicated upon the notion that this Other is so radically Other that it exceeds every attempt to name it, and most definitely exceeds any univocal metaphysics cum onticity, and therefore any real predication of attributes in a univocal mode; that is, in any mode that is comprehensible or exhaustible by our limited rational faculties and methodologies. When we attempt to enumerate divine “attributes”, we implicitly say that Being is itself a being among many, thus logical incoherence and narcissism abound. Love is impossible in heterotopy and a world comprised of mere univocity as all becomes One without essential difference.
Is not consumption the atonement of Capitalism? do we not finally feel like we're "enabled" to forget about our debt in the moment we buy the thing? If there was no atonement whatsoever to capitalism I don't think it could function.
@@telosbound well im trying to understand the concept of the Other a bit more. and im reading the agony of eros rn and theres no given definition to the Other, like i would like examples.
@@udidnot if you are not religious you can try buddhist writing on this type of stuff, it’s more of a philosophy but essentially same stuff when they talk about transcendence
Nah, you have traded god for everything. Now you just need to put actual effort in instead of auto piloting through life. This was the purpose of philosophy before Christianity unleashed their blight onto the human psyche.
@@watsonblack7481 Nah I do none of that and still live without the anxiety of never living up to an imaginary figure. Keep deluding yourself and aim for that land of excess (heaven). I’m sure it’ll be real after the lights go out.
Whenever we are not our nature ~wecause~ What nature becomes ourcause ~because~ Wecause our nature to be ~wecause~ What we become in nature ~because~ Being is thecause ~wecause~ Ourcause to be Wecause what we become ~because~ Being is what is not ~because~ Not being is ~thecause~ Of what being became that forgot ~tocause~ Thecause of what is being ~thecause~ Of what thecause should be ~because~ Knowing what is not is knowing what can be ~thecause~ Of being Wecause ourcause because thecause should be thecause wecause ~because~ Being thecause wecause becomes ourcause because Good action causes it The Good you see and cause ~tocause~ The Good I see tocause ~willcause~ The Good I see wecause is Good ~because~ I see the Good in you
another episode of: whatever fits my doctrine... you have problems with porn because of your religion. the philosophy fitting that shit does not matter to make sense to you
Very similar line of thought to Christos Yannaras in his gem of a book, Variations on the Song of Songs. I think to his opening line, “we come to know love only in the context of failure. “
as Han points out, we live in a culture that prevents us from turning failure into a deeper eros.
I feel like I owe you a beer or tea or something for introducing me to Byung-Chul Han
Can't believe I haven't heard of him until now
a gift of love😌
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These people, 9:29 never cease to amaze me, acting as if people's nudity and words online is more offensive than the violence we're exposed to in REAL life, even brought manners into it, all the while the physical abuse, i'm not even allowed to speak of it because the youtube ceo will hurt me if i do, Han's notions of what causes depression are of those groomed by the occult, you guys can take your beers and choke on em
I think this is one of the most important philosophical treaties of our day. Awesome analysis!
Fantastic video, Treydon.
I just want to say: thank you, thank you so much. I adore your knowledge. By these kind of videos, I feel like I can reconnect to myself, what do I want to read? Why I want to? What I want to search for and to think of ? What to put my time and effort in? As you have said Han is an underrated philosopher in our time and there are not so much content made about him, I'm glad there are you who's making these beautiful crafted video. It's really rare. Sorry my English is bad and I can't read Han if my English is like this, so to be able to read him and other great books and authors, also to enjoy your videos more is a motivation for me to learning language, especially English as well.
In the words of Franz Kafka: "The reservations with which you take evil into yourself are not yours, but those of Evil."
"The animal twists the whip from its master's grip and whips itself to become its own master--not knowing that this is only a fantasy, produced by a knew knot in the master's whiplash"
Nice one mate. I love reading Han, its like being awake somehow. Lacan and its modern commentators also can give a lot of insights on these matters. The "new synthomes" of our times. Cheers from Brazil!
Great video. Never heard of Han before now but I will certainly be checking him out. Commodification = destruction of otherness. Commodification is the making banal, safe and indistinct. Couldn't agree more!
Bloody fantastic video, mate. Best one yet, I'd reckon.
Incredible video Trey, I sincerely appreciated it.
This is my second comment on this video alone because every few months I come back and watch this video, it’s so good.
min. 11:40; Nietzsche was not a proponent of "bare life", he despised the mundane and advocated for the subject to turn the act of self-surpassing into its task, source of meaning and instigator of personal freedom.
I love this channel… there’s some real insight here unlike most of the kitsch on UA-cam
Babe look! New telosbound just dropped! Excellent video.
Another great one! Thank you for delivering such cohesive pieces on Han's interesting and timely philosophy!
Jesus, bro. This was so good.
Now that was a beautiful video. Thank you so much
12:30 the return to self is the gift of the other. Kierkegaard's repetition
It feels right. Covers a few unspeakable lamentations!
“At different degrees, everything is pathology except indifference.”
-Emil Cioran
Thank you very much for this Trey.
it resonates a lot with Alain Badiou's "Éloge de l'amour".
oh. didnt know that! it is so refreshing to hear people talking about what I would consider an authentic experience of Love. Erich Fromm's "The Art of Loving" is also a must in this regard. its crazy that for some people this take on Love is considered "old fashioned" or "conservative"... its sad but I think Love (the kind Badiou talks about) is slowly disappearing. nowadays its all about nihilistic hedonism. (btw ive just discovered your channel and your content is great. just the fact that you've realeased two videos about Han is amazing considering how few people have covered his work on UA-cam)
I must say its not easy to catch all of these concepts at once,but I would be teribbly sorry if I never even heard them so that I can explore them.For that I thank you.
Can someone explain a little further what is meant by "The Other" and how a narcissist cannot distinguish themselves from it? Isn't the point of narcissism that it's always a dichotomy between the Me and the Other people? Where the Me is always placed above?
The other means the other of two. There is you, and then the other BUT the other must maintain its "otherness" to be considered "other".
"The ability to experience the other in terms of his or her otherness is being lost. By means of social media, we seek to bring the other as near as possible, to close any distance between ourselves and him or her, to create proximity. But this does not mean that we have more of the other/ instead, we are making the other disappear"-agony of eros. The narcissist wants to characterize the other by grasping, possessing, or knowing. If one could posess, grasp, and know the other, it would not be other. Possessing, knowing, and grasping, are synonyms of power.
Wonderful. Thanks for creating and sharing this!
Great video, thank you! This made me think of the theological difference between divine names and divine attributes. That distinction illustrates just this divide-between the Other and the Same-by similarly driving a wedge between classical theistic notions of the divine and the sacred’s relation to this ever-surpassing essence, and modernist profanations which reduce metaphysics to ontic taxonomy-which is by its very nature univocal rather than analogical. Modernity therefore begins conceiving of the divine in terms that precisely preclude any ultimate Otherness. When we offer names of the divine we attempt to address ourselves and our rational faculties to the transcendent Other by oblique means which are themselves predicated upon the notion that this Other is so radically Other that it exceeds every attempt to name it, and most definitely exceeds any univocal metaphysics cum onticity, and therefore any real predication of attributes in a univocal mode; that is, in any mode that is comprehensible or exhaustible by our limited rational faculties and methodologies. When we attempt to enumerate divine “attributes”, we implicitly say that Being is itself a being among many, thus logical incoherence and narcissism abound.
Love is impossible in heterotopy and a world comprised of mere univocity as all becomes One without essential difference.
concise and brilliant. fitting for the philosopher of our time
Great stuff .... thanks .... all the best
very cool i am glad i found this channel thanks for making these videos
I didnt expect to be so disturbed by this video
this is awesome content, thankyou
15:17 it looks like he's chewing a star. 😂
Awesome…very helpful 😊
Fascinating stuff. I should check this Han fella out
Great stuff
Great video, Slava Bogu!!!
Is not consumption the atonement of Capitalism? do we not finally feel like we're "enabled" to forget about our debt in the moment we buy the thing? If there was no atonement whatsoever to capitalism I don't think it could function.
can someone give me a more detailed explanation on the Other and otherness. especially how its used in this book?
@@telosbound wow. ok i’m grasping it. any book recommendations to understand this concept better?
@@telosbound well im trying to understand the concept of the Other a bit more. and im reading the agony of eros rn and theres no given definition to the Other, like i would like examples.
@@telosbound why are u giving me christian literature lmao
@@telosbound are u urself a christian?
@@udidnot if you are not religious you can try buddhist writing on this type of stuff, it’s more of a philosophy but essentially same stuff when they talk about transcendence
I may be completely wrong to ask....but due to Han's criticism of capitalism, I am curious about his view of communism.
Is there a progression here?
I'm grateful i found your channel.
Be blessed on your journey.
It hurts when you see how much they have taken. We have traded God for nothing.
Nah, you have traded god for everything. Now you just need to put actual effort in instead of auto piloting through life.
This was the purpose of philosophy before Christianity unleashed their blight onto the human psyche.
@@neetfreek9921 have fun living in a clown world and gaining worldly success for no reason other than your satisfaction.
@@watsonblack7481 Nah I do none of that and still live without the anxiety of never living up to an imaginary figure.
Keep deluding yourself and aim for that land of excess (heaven). I’m sure it’ll be real after the lights go out.
Banger
you play hockey?
Am I right in saying the gospels are completely withiut eros?
Nice
Dont worry about it and take your Sabbatical. Less is more. (Y)
Whenever we are not our nature
~wecause~
What nature becomes ourcause
~because~
Wecause our nature to be
~wecause~
What we become in nature
~because~
Being is thecause
~wecause~
Ourcause to be
Wecause what we become
~because~
Being is what is not
~because~
Not being is
~thecause~
Of what being became that forgot
~tocause~
Thecause of what is being
~thecause~
Of what thecause should be
~because~
Knowing what is not is knowing what can be
~thecause~
Of being
Wecause ourcause because thecause should be thecause wecause
~because~
Being thecause wecause becomes ourcause because Good action causes it
The Good you see and cause
~tocause~
The Good I see tocause
~willcause~
The Good I see wecause is Good
~because~
I see the Good in you
♡
Is this philosophy or psychology?
mostly philosophy which is then used to offer a perspective on common psychological symptoms.
Sobering critique of modern day delusion. What do?
Han says; be an idiot (in the Socratic sense), remember and practice rituals, go for walks, make friends, listen to Bach, garden. Not a bad list.
@@telosbound Found Him, didn't help on the long run. Hopefully pb eternal run.
hi tree
RM of BTS brought me here.
another episode of: whatever fits my doctrine...
you have problems with porn because of your religion. the philosophy fitting that shit does not matter to make sense to you
So a hedonist
Nice resumé but you explain nothing. Why?